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Key has a whinge

Written By: - Date published: 6:58 am, May 10th, 2012 - 111 comments
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Key’s playing the pity angle telling schoolkids who want to be PM: “Frankly, the way it’s going at the moment you can have the job” and sighing that “it’s going to be a long two and a half years”. Comments that suggest the Banks.com affair is more concerning to him than he pretends.

Then, he whinged about the “grief” he is getting for preparing to sell our gambling law to SkyCity saying: “Sure I can sit around and do absolutely nothing for the next nine years and I might survive that long but it’s not going to take New Zealand anywhere”

Can anyone honestly say that New Zealand has gone anywhere good in the last three and a half years? Unemployment is up by 60,000. The number of beneficiaries is up by 70,000.

The Government has borrowed $50 billion. And at a time of record export prices, we’ve still been spending more than we earn with the rest of the world because of the massive outflow of profits from our control and the rapidly rising cost of oil imports.

GDP per capita is at 2004 levels and 2% below where it was when Key came to office – growth is barely keeping up with the population. Every time, the Nats promise the brighter future is just around the corner, and then take barely contained delight in saying we’ll have to wait, and cut more services while we wait.

Petrol is as near record prices, public transport is over-flowing but the government is devoting 75% of its transport budget to a handful of roads to nowhere. Housing is getting more expensive as the median household gets poorer.

The government rules by making certain groups of people into class enemies and whipping up public sentiment against them – beneficiaries, Maori, teachers. Democracy has been usurped repeatedly with acts like the Supercity, Ecan, CERA, and asset sales.

We’re about to lose sovereign control over major strategic assets by a single vote in Parliament and the PM won’t even give a hint of respect to the vast majority of us who are angry about it. The only one who can stop it is Peter fucken Dunne who has the gall to claim he was open about supporting asset sales before the election.

Our Prime Minister and ministers have repeatedly made us laughingstocks around the world. In the past, we have had leaders who shaped international debate – the current one is most likely to appear overseas in ‘offstuff’ sections and treats diplomatic trips as an opportunity to get in photos with Obama.

Billions of public money has gone to favours for National’s elite allies – ETS cuts, finance company bailouts, Warners deal, irrigation subsidies, borrowing for tax cuts for the rich, a profit-making prison when we already have plenty of empty prison beds, the Mediaworks bailout – and, now, our very law is for sale and we’ll get landed with more pokie machines in the cancer that is SkyCity and a convention centre that will be a white elephant. The only one who can stop it is John fucken Banks who has the gall to claim he didn’t know that SKyCity gave him a $15,000 donation.

The Prime Minister who promised higher standards is currently leaving Judith Collins and John Banks in office when they ought to be gone for all money because he can’t afford a coup or to lose his party’s one permanent ally because Key knows that, despite National’s high polling, he stands on the edge of defeat.

111 comments on “Key has a whinge”

  1. Dr Terry 1

    What is so bad is the awful feeling of helplessness. Though we might wonder “what is the use?”,
    especially when so many actually believe this country is “going in the right direction” (to the Right indeed!), we must resist lethargy. Ever so many are buying into the Government’s desperate short term “solutions” (refusing to contemplate the longer term) that it truly makes one wonder about levels of intelligence among New Zealanders.

  2. higherstandard 2

    Shouldn’t the title be “Eddie has a whinge.” ?

    • lprent 2.1

      At least Eddie didn’t massively contribute to cause the problems that he is whining about.

      John Key whines about his own political ineptness… He really is reminding me of David Lange more and more very month.

      • higherstandard 2.1.1

        Can’t argue with that.

        ………. unless Eddie is part of the Labour strategy team !

        • burt 2.1.1.1

          They have a strategy team ?????

        • lprent 2.1.1.2

          Ah – nope. I wish he was – more political nous.

          Mind you, just at present I’m hoping that there is such a team. Traces of a coherent framework have been somewhat lacking. But I am happier now that we haven’t seen anyone make dumb screwups for a while. That has to be a good sign.

          But I have to say that that is better than the apparent National strategy of pouring the factional intestines in public from ritual disembowelments conducted from behind people’s backs. Now it appears that we have whining added to the strategic mix.

          I find it hard to see who the target audience is for both of these ‘strategies’. Perhaps the children that Key was talking to? It does reek of the horrors of the schoolyard as our kids get socialized.

          Meanwhile our economy is in the doldrums and all National will do about it is to visit the pawnbrokers. Clearly they aren’t into being more productive…

          Update: I see Burt made exactly the same point I did about the Labour strategy team. And he didn’t say retrospective once ! 😈

        • Well Balanced: a Chip on Both Shoulders 2.1.1.3

          We have a strategy team? Yep, the guys n gals who gave us the that Great Election Winning Strategy of 2008.

  3. Te Reo Putake 3

    If I can repeat a comment from an earlier post, Key had a moment of unintended honesty yesterday when talking about Colin Craig.
     
    One minute into this clip, he says “its going to be a long two and a half years”. As the first words come out, he’s all smiles, but there seems to be a moment of self awareness at the end when he realises the implication of what he has said.

    • rosy 3.1

      That deserves a lot of replays, that does.

      • Carol 3.1.1

        replays inserted into a rap/song By a well-known Kiwi band?

        Or even using this song:

        http://indilean.com/two-and-a-half-years/

        Two and a half years take me back
        Two and a half years
        Two and a half years take me back
        Would i really want to return to that?

        I can’t believe that its been that long
        I can’t believe how many things went wrong
        I sometimes dream that I will wake up and find I was dreaming
        But I need to quit that ’cause its just wishful thinking

        Two and a half years where’d they go
        Two and a half years
        Two and a half years where’d they go
        Two and a half years with nothing to show

        I’m not saying I wasted every day of it
        But I do believe I didn’t always make the best of it
        If the person who I was met the person who I am, I think he’d have some words for me
        I think he’d tell me that I’m not the man I wanted to be

        Two and a half years what a mess
        Two and a half years
        Two and a half years what a mess
        Learn from mistakes and forget the rest

        I never thought it would come to this
        I never dreamed that I would succumb to it
        I’m tired of wasting my time tired of wasting my life tired of wasting away
        I think its time for me to get out the door and face the day

        Two and a half years now gone by
        Two and a half years
        Two and a half years passed me by
        And I’m two steps closer to the day I die

        I’ve been living in the past, I’ve been living in the past, I’ve been living in the past
        Forgot the future still exists, forgot the future still exists, forgot the future still exists

        Forgot the future still exists, and even though we’re not still little kids, there’s still a whole lot of time left to live
        Its time for me to get out that door, time for me to knock down that damn door, time to knock that damn door down to the damn floor

        Two and a half years take me back
        Would i really want to return to that?
        Two and a half years where’d they go
        Two and a half years with nothing to show

        Two and a half years what a mess
        Learn from mistakes and forget the rest
        Two and a half years passed me by
        And I’m two steps closer to the day I die

      • felix 3.1.2

        Certainly does. Allow me to re-emphasise: http://www.3news.co.nz/Condom-study-behind-Craigs-promiscuous-comment/tabid/370/articleID/253657/Default.aspx

        Hey John Key, it’s going to be a much fucking longer two and a half years for a lot of other kiwis. This PM gig isn’t actually all about your soft privileged miserable arse.

    • Maui 3.2

      “One minute into this clip, he says “its going to be a long two and a half years”. As the first words come out, he’s all smiles, but there seems to be a moment of self awareness at the end when he realises the implication of what he has said.”

      I would not be surprised to see a snap election at some favourable juncture.

      It would provide Key with a swift and graceful exit while reshuffling the National Party
      leadership team and catching Labour off guard.

      The alternative could be a long parliamentary grind in what Krugman and Shiller
      now call a Depression.

      • Strategos 3.2.1

        It would make sense if there was an emerging successor who has broad support within National.
        I imagine that Shipley, Boag and the Grandees would be working on something like that, hence the
        perceived ‘civil war’. More likely it would be a consensus team led by someone who has kept a low profile such as the current minister for Defence.

  4. marsman 4

    John Key whine. Typical. Bullying and then woe is me. The Punch and Judy show.

  5. BLiP 5

    .

    How’s Tourism going, John?

    • weka 5.1

      Speaking of which, we could add the gutting of DOC and the push to make it a tourism ministry as another of Key’s accomplishments.
       
       

    • Phil 5.2

      Hawaii here I come!

  6. Carol 6

    When the difficult times come, as they do whenever you’re working on any medium-to-long term project, it helps carry you through if you really believe in what you are doing, and have developed a reasonably coherent plan to achieve it.

    JonKey just seems to be in politics for the status, and the deals with the already-wealthy. Walking to stand still, in the face of constant conflicts and knocks, must seem like a pointless task.

    And now that the whole neoliberal wave that he rode to riches on is falling apart, he has no idea what to do except to continue doing deals, keep trying to spin deal-making illusions, and ultimately, retreat to his mansion in Hawaii and surround himself with his rusting baubles.

    • Phil 6.1

      You read my mind Carol. I reckon he won’t make the next election. The fun has all gone out of it for him.

  7. Frida 7

    Yeah I read that this morning from his greatest fan Tracy Watkins and was disappointed that the Stuff comments were disabled as my overwhelming reaction which I wanted to share was “Oh boo hoo, cry me a river and get out your violin, John. There are people suffering in this country, no thanks to you and your neoliberal fanboys”.

  8. Uturn 8

    Oh boo hoo, Key ol’ boy. At least you have food, transport, winter shoes and clothes and a warm house to come home to.

    Your kids are doing fine and not riddled with avoidable diseases; you could afford for the doctor to make a house visit if they were sick and not have to take unpaid time off your job to wait in a waiting room for 4 hours and then wonder what is going to fall off the needs list to pay for any prescription medicine.

    You aren’t under the constant panic of having your pittance income whipped away from you by a sneering case worker. You don’t see society as hostile when you walk the streets, or know it when you see a BMW or Merc drive by, or sometimes even just a guy in a suit with a tie. When your bus makes a change in certain areas you don’t have to keep your eyes down to avoid the unprovoked insults and dirty looks because you aren’t from round there.

    Unless you want to fight, that is. And when you do, the police know you are in the wrong because the other guy looks richer.

    You don’t have to live for the moment, John, you dream of Hawaii. If it all goes wrong, no problem, you can escape. You don’t wonder to yourself what the hell you are doing alive when there appears to be no point at all, but to be abused or exploited by someone; or have to struggle to contain the agression, hate and hopelessness it causes.

    You don’t know what it’s like to have no more than $5 to your name most days and if you have a bank account, you don’t use cash because that last 85c you’ll use eftpos to access is your last meal for the week – maybe a scone from the supermarket, or a muffin if they’re on special. Tastes great, John, fuckin’ great.

    And it just stretches on and on, into the future, because despite being told there are plenty of jobs, employers haven’t replied to one of your applications for over a year and the selection to choose from is dwindling and the same fishing expeditions from consultancies keep coming up.

    If you had $1150 dollars spare, John, maybe you’d do a basic IT course – one that is not easiliy dismissed by smug employers – but would it neutralise social prejudice, John? Would paying for a job move a person closer to a chance of getting one or being allowed to keep one, John?

    Maybe we just make bad choices, John. Afterall, we’re all exactly the same, same backgrounds, same talents, living in a well-meaning warm and friendly cherry-pip world. You don’t know what isolation does to a person, John. No, you don’t have any of the kind of the anxiety that you, most recently, think young women and other beneficiaries should be under constantly.

    Fuck you, you pissant thief.

    Yep, gonna be a long two years, or less, for you, John Key. Some of the people you despise have lived much worse for most, if not all, their lives. If I were you, I’d leave the country when you’re done. In fact why not go now? Spring will be starting in the Northern hemisphere.

    • Frida 8.1

      +1 Uturn. That gets Comment of the Year. Can you email it to the sycophant Tracy Watkins to give her a dose of reality too???!!

      • Pete George 8.1.1

        Uturn has been challenged:

        Is there any wonder that John Key sometimes wonders what he’s doing here? And let’s be honest; there were those on the Right who were just as abusive towards Helen Clark towards the end of her Prime Ministership; we hope that we never stooped to this level of abuse though.

        Let’s not pretend that things are rosy in New Zealand; patently they are not, and the government is having to grapple with a myriad of issues. Likewise, there are a lot of people out there in less than ideal circumstances. It’s not that many years ago that we were out of work, and on the bones of our bum. We’re grateful that work became available, even though it was shitty, smelly factory work at minimum wage and unsociable hours. But we made a conscious decision to make the best of it, work as hard as we could, and get ahead. It was a humbling time, but it’s not one that we will ever regret.

        No government is ever going to please every citizen, and history will judge a government on how it looks after its most vulnerable. But benefits aren’t being cut, the minimum wage has increased every year of this government, and every working New Zealander got a cut in personal income tax in 2010.

        So what do you think; has Uturn got a point, or is this an abusive rant from a John Key-hater? And will our anonymous friend (there’s some many of them now that we lose track) be surprised that far from deleting his/her cut and paste from The Standard, we’re actually featuring it and encouraging debate?

        A challenge accepted

        Rise to the challenge? Or resume standard levels of abuse?

        • millsy 8.1.1.1

          “We’re grateful that work became available, even though it was shitty, smelly factory work at minimum wage and unsociable hours. But we made a conscious decision to make the best of it, work as hard as we could, and get ahead. It was a humbling time, but it’s not one that we will ever regret.”

          Yeah well Inv2 wants to cut the min. wage, paid sick leave, holidays, and ban unions to make that job even more smelly and shitty.

        • felix 8.1.1.2

          “we hope that we never stooped to this level of abuse though.”

          Sure Pete, I’m pretending not to remember any of that too.

          • Pete George 8.1.1.2.1

            I don’t recall seeing Inventory2 stooping to low abuse, he’s one of the more reasonable commenters out there.

            But of course there are low stoopers scattered all over. It’s hard not to get sucked down, I guess we all get drawn into it to an extent but some are far worse and more persistent with abuse than others.

            Talking of that, Redbaiter has popped up occassionally again lately, and actually posted a good comment on fracking/fraccing/fracing/fracting on KB yesterday – it was just about all a cut and paste, but totally absent his usual torrents of abuse. He’s one of the worst I’ve come across and I’ve had many full on battles with him.

            • millsy 8.1.1.2.1.1

              reasonable commentator.

              He’s a bible bashing god botherer who wants to cut wages.

            • felix 8.1.1.2.1.2

              Ah yes, I forgot that InventedTory likes to refer to himself as “we”. Silly me for assuming his sentence was supposed to make sense in the context of him talking about “the right”.

              I don’t think redbaiter says much that most of the rest of your kiwiblog mates disagree with. He’s a bit more outspoken than most and he’s pretty aggressive but his views are more or less accepted in general.

              • No, you don’t see much of what’s been going on there.

                Redbaiter’s derided by most at KB, there’s only a handful that gave him much support and they left with him when he huffed off under a barrage of criticism some time last year, vowing never to return.

        • Hayden 8.1.1.3

          …get ahead…

          Those two words really give me the shits. We can’t all be ahead, by definition roughly 50% of us have to be behind. We should be aiming to make “behind” better, or at least liveable.

        • travellerev 8.1.1.4

          I have never said this before to you P.G. but I’m saying it today: Why don’t you go fuck yourself. There is a big difference to someone responding to a whinging Narcissist in desperation or verbal abuse.

          And no, P.G. I’m not going into a long stupid discussion with you because until now I just thought you weren’t worth the energy but today you really got on my wick with your even more moronic crap then usual and I still think you’re too much of a silly little man to engage with.
          Have a nice day while fucking yourself! Oh, and this was intended as abuse.
           

          • Pete George 8.1.1.4.1

            No discussion necessary, you’ve fired with both towers.

          • The Baron 8.1.1.4.2

            Hahaha the most insane woman in the room comes out with this missive.

            You’re a nasty AND nutty piece of work, Eve. If we are dishing out go fuck yourselves and pretending that that is valid commentary, then heres yours.

            • McFlock 8.1.1.4.2.1

              even a stopped [analogue] clock is right twice a day. 
                  
                 
                   

          • deuto 8.1.1.4.3

            For once T, I agree with you.

            I am totally fed up with PG, not because he is not entitled to his views, but a range of things including the way he worms his way into good threads and creates divisions and diversions from the theme and views of that thread, thereby effectively destroying/shutting down the main discussion in the thread. More often than not, the way he does it is to turn the focus onto him and his views – even if the resulting comments are anti-him and his views.

            PG’s first comment in this one is a classic example – Uturn commented at 8 (8.41am), a string of suuportive comments followed at 8.1 to 8.9 (10.55am). Then PG comes in at 11.27am – not replying to Uturn’s comment at 8 but to the first comment at 8.1 – turning the focus from Uturn’s comment to PG’s views etc on it, with a string of responses then to PG. This effectively then overshadowed the other direct and supportive responses to Uturn at 8, separatiing them from the original comment.

            I have noticed him do this before and have come to the conclusion it is a deliberate tactic.

            Regardless of what I think of the quality or validity (or otherwise) of PG’s views, it is the tactics I object to – and the fact that people fall for it and respond. It means that he effectively takes over and destroys for me (and I believe, others) an otherwise extremely good blogsite, thanks to lprent and all the others who work so hard to make is so.

        • bbfloyd 8.1.1.5

          are you serious petey boy?? you waste our time with yet another mealy mouthed set of bullshit excuses that don’t have any relationship to the reality that large, and growing larger numbers of johhny sparkles people are facing every day, of every week, of every year that this utterly piss poor impersonation of a government will be in control.. uturn has spoken for the many thousands of new zealanders who have had hope, dignity, and ambition, for themselves, and their children callously ripped away so that the asset stripping that represents no more than the children of the old aristocracy can steal back what was fought for, and paid for with lives by ordinary men and women….

          the right to dignity in life, and work… a fair wage to support families properly…. the opportunity to be ambitious for the children of the working classes…. the right to be able to contribute to society in meaningful ways, rather than being no more than pack animals worked to early graves for the benefit of a corrupted, and dysfunctional “elite”….

          and the best you can do is make excuses for them?? what a wanker!!

          no wonder you’re joined at the hip to petey1…. you’re both morally vacant….

        • Inventory2 8.1.1.6

          Actually Pete, it wasn’t a challenge to Uturn; it was a challenge to the anonymous commenter at Keeping Stock who copied and pasted his comment from here onto another thread (which was completely irrelevant to this issue), who reckoned that I wouldn’t leave his comment there. I not only accepted Mr/Mrs Anonymous’ challenge; I actually turned it into a post of its own, from which no comments have been deleted!

        • North 8.1.1.7

          You’re such a waste of space apologist Pete George.

          Do we not all know the stuff you’re talking about in your wistful, patronising but kindly, village vicar way ?

          Do most of us not know it more vividly than you seem to ?

          You’re preoccupied with engaging “pretty” debate……..the lust for the image of an intelligent, considered, superior member of the community. That is the mark of the arsehole middle classer who knows fuck all.

          I’m from a provincial town where the median annual income is $17,900 and I’m in one of the-pick-up-the pieces industries which have to operate here. You wouldn’t believe what I see daily. And against those realities you talk utter feeble shit.

          You burble on in your “measured” way (until periodically you get ridiculous and speculate wildly), making such acknowledgments as you believe “proper”.

          That’s apologism for the right-wing status quo.

          You just don’t get it . Why ? Ignorance and a proclivity for patronising but kindly (until you go off), village vicar pompsoity. The world not as it is but as it is through Pete George’s little, unseeing, limited eyes. In other words it’s all about “me” Pete George.

          • Reality Bytes 8.1.1.7.1

            Excellent summation about how Pete often pisses people off.

            I couldn’t quite put my finger on it, but you have explained how he does it most adeptly.

    • sassafrass lass 8.2

      ++ comment of the year. Powerful

    • rosy 8.3

      +1 Great writing. It deserves to be an open letter to Key. Who knows… one of his staff might grow a conscience.

    • cin77 8.4

      That brought tears to my eyes because you just described me.
      Day before yesterday I pulled up a board on my porch to get .50c I’d dropped cause we needed milk for cornflakes. As I did it I thought about how low I felt- I didn’t even have a spare fifty cents to replace the one I had dropped.

    • deuto 8.5

      Uturn, thanks for a great Comment – absolutely agree with the other comments that this needs to be widely published – eg as an open letter to Key. As does Cin77’s reply.

      Hang in there, Cin77 – you are not alone and wish I could do something. I am sure that you have a lot of understanding and supportive fellow travellers here.

    • Kevin Welsh 8.6

      +1

      Amen brother.

    • Kevin Welsh 8.7

      Uturn

      Do a cut-and-paste to the comments section of this article and see if it gets through:

      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6891991/John-Keys-midterm-blues

    • Chris 8.8

      Powerful comment! Bought me close to tears as we all know that this is the truth of a great proportion of our society.God must be the only one who knows what we have done to deserve key as our pm because I certainly don’t.

    • muzza 8.9

      Great post Uturn, I hope you have sent it to all of the MPs

      So do the rest of you on here email your local mp, councilors etc, because I can tell you this. Lobbying them has better chance to make a difference, than vacillating on this site, which is great for awareness, but has little influence in reality…not a criticism!

      http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyres/5858C8A5-ACDF-4B35-8D7A-3ABB7B19ACDB/214239/listofmembers100413.pdf

      There is the list, get writing, and make a difference, one per week as a target!

      Or don’t, and stop whining like John Key!

    • Facebooked far and wide!!!

    • Bob 8.11

      Seems to me that the new long term contraception legislation would solve most of these problems. No child being born into a family that isn’t financially able to support it (i.e deliberately bringing a child into poverty), not having to to look after a child while you are job hunting, allowing you to concentrate on chasing up recruitment agents (much more effective than going direct to employers, minimum of 5 recruitment suggested), better still, start your own business! Petrol Hedge trimmers cost about $120, then go door knocking asking if people would like there gardens tidied, don’t have $120, what about dog walking? Car washing? just plain gardening?
      Why is everything the governments fault with you lot!!! I am an only child to a solo mum who brought me up starting on minimum wage, my father didn’t pay child support, and her attitude was, she made the decision to have me, she will fight tooth and nail to raise me on her own, with no goverment assistance. The only assistance she ever had was asking family/friends/neighbours to watch me between 3.30pm and 5pm when she was working so she could hold a full time job.
      This rediculous idea that the government should pay for everything is the very thing holding so many people in poverty back, they can’t remove the blinkers, think out side the square, fight to get ahead. It takes hard work, not bleating, maybe I’ve just answered my own question?

      • Mick McCrohon 8.11.1

        so we have 70,000 “Hedge trimmers”,”dog walkers” ,”car washers” and “just gardeners ” …what happens on the second week of your Utopian plan ? You know when everybody hedges are trimmed etc.
        A society is best judged by how it treats its under privileged . I think it is ignorant to except 100% employment ,there is not a country in the world that can claim that . So we need the best education system possible and we need “to treat others as we would have others treat us “. Mainly we need smart leaders not arrogant sly psychopaths and their sycophantic offsiders.

  9. Chris 9

    Idle curiosity. Has con key got a wig on?

  10. Chris 10

    Idle curiosity. Has con key got a wig on?

  11. millsy 11

    Well John, as you lot like to say, if you dont like the job, there is nothing to stop you from leaving.

    Mind you, if you do decide to pack it in, at least you can liquidate one of your fancy investments until your mates on Wall Street fix you up with that cushy directorship. The rest of us face the uncertain job market while wondering how to pay the bills during the 14 week stand down period.

  12. Jasper 12

    GREAT NEWS! Just Resign & then F*#k off! A f#$k’n light-weight!

  13. deuto 13

    Much as I do not believe in bringing politician’s partners and children into discussions etc, as a general comment only re Key’s motivation to stay on, I wonder whether Key is waiting for Max (17 this month) to finish college here before moving on – eg back overseas.

  14. burt 14

    I think sometimes he’s just the target because he’s a competent and popular PM….. lol

    • thatguynz 14.1

      Two factual inaccuracies in your statement there Burt….
       
      “I think” and “competent”.


      Try again….

    • tc 14.2

      Well according to the MSM he is burt so I guess it must be true.

    • Mick McCrohon 14.3

      whats your insight on this Burt ?

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10804415

      are we about to sign away sovereignty ?

      • burt 14.3.1

        It’s a significant concern isn’t it.

        A particular worry for lawyers is that our courts, too, could be overruled. The foreign investment tribunals have decided that courts are part of a country’s government (riding roughshod over any doctrine of the separation of powers) and that they, too, must comply.

        Funny, I don’t recall much concern on this site when Labour were validating 14 years of electoral funding abuse and killing off a standing court case. Separation of powers was made a laughing stock in NZ in 2005/2006 – but sure, we have no choice when own own government acts against the principles of democracy but we shouldn’t let other countries be as self serving as our own ministers.

        • KJT 14.3.1.1

          It’s all right because Labour done it too?

          I know you were asleep at the time, but many of us did not like a lot of what Labour done, either.
          Especially in the 80’s.

          The last Labour Government never managed to fuck us up as much as Key’s lot have, though.

          And in some things they managed improvement.

          Name one thing National have done which has improved life for New Zealanders?

          • Phil 14.3.1.1.1

            ….. and …… Not forgetting …. And then there was …. Too many too mention…

          • burt 14.3.1.1.2

            KJT

            Name one thing National have done which has improved life for New Zealanders?

            Got elected in 2008 which ended the tyranny of the self serving anti democratic Labour party – apart from that – Nothing. They have already started to act as self serving as Labour so I’m with you – lets get rid of them at the next election.

          • burt 14.3.1.1.3

            It’s all right because Labour done it too?

            No, not at all. If National use the power of parliament to kill off a court case against the PM and start denigrating the AG for making a bad call when the AG claims they broke the law I’ll be joining you screaming about it. I’ll be saying the same thing I said about Labour – The courts are the place to determine if they broke the law – not they themselves using retrospective validations.

            I hope it doesn’t happen but if it does – it will be nice to not be fighting the crowd on this blog.

  15. Jasper 15

    He got mail: He’s seen that his “Blind” investment in the Bank of America’s losing money!Haha!http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-18/bofa-said-to-split-regulators-over-moving-merrill-derivatives-to-bank-unit.html

    • Nothing blind about his shares in BofA. if you go to the government site were all politicos have to declare their interests you see they are mentioned apart from both Trusts.

      • Reagan Cline 15.1.1

        BAC share price rose 50% from early January to mid April this year and have since been steadily falling.

  16. Rosie 16

    Great post Eddie, great song Carol. All this talk is good. Its angry and fed up but like PIL said back in the day “anger is an energy”. Sometimes its that energy that gets things done. Cin 77: I’m sorry for the things you are dealing with, that are beyond your control. Its plain wrong. Hold on to your dignity, it will get you through. Chris, post 9 and 10: I’m pretty sure Key has something weird going on with his hair/wig since summer.

    I’m also pretty sure that key has had something weird going on with his head space for over a year now. Like I’ve said before he is so readable when he’s not speaking, and when he does speak his face betrays him all the time. He’s been hating his job for some time now. He only ever wanted the limelight and a place to fulfill his warped ideology with his cronies. Running a country was only ever going to be a “cool hobby” for him, a flexing of those ego muscles. He didn’t sign up for tragedy (CHCH earthquakes and Pike River)Real life and people are not in his orbit. I’ve been waiting for him to crack and I thought it was going to happen when he freaked out about the guy who tried to climb over the railing in parliament and his throat slitting gesture towards the Labour benches. But no he just went to ground for a bit. I live in (wishful)hope that the whole Key govt will just self implode one day. The damage they have done is profound.

    • Chris 16.1

      There was an article in the Herald May 25th last year titled “beware narcissists in the workplace” which is so reminiscent of key (and his forward pack) that it is scary. Backed up by another article I read regarding siblings and their place in the family, it quoted keys sisters as saying he was the acknowledged favourite of their mother.Apparently it was very unusual for a mother to openly favour one child over other siblings.This could possibly explain his huge sense of entitlement and his inability to ever admit to being wrong. Also,harking back to Breakfast when p bennett was on in the mornings i am certain I heard her once refer to con key as “my leader” Was spooky. What has happened to all the true National Party ministers,why are they invisible,have they all been shut down by key and his scarily unintelligent front row, you know, the supersized sycophants?Also would like to know who ties brownlees shoelaces?

      • Pete George 16.1.1

        What has happened to all the true National Party ministers,why are they invisible,have they all been shut down by key

        From what I hear Key gives his ministers far more self responsibility in their own ministries than Clark did.

        Maybe his ministers are too busy working to indulge in media appearances – I hope so, but it would be good to have a way of seeing what they are all up to.

        • McFlock 16.1.1.1

          Dude, the nats must think you’re the cheapest and most desperate date they’ve ever met. At least Dunne halfway tried to pretend to play hard-to-get. 
          Your behaviour is exactly what Colin Craig was talking about… 

    • Phil 16.2

      I agree Rosie. The sick fellow launching into the gallery at parliarment did show Key in a very poor light. But that footage was very quickly edited out. Censored out, ’cause it could have cost him the election. He looked very worried at that point, going pale. He had favourable treatment from the media but they are starting to twig and the drums are beating within NatZ caucus. When right wing journo’s praise David Shearer you know some-things up. Watch and savour.

  17. ianmac 17

    Just for fun I noted this in the Dom today.Key talking to children about an average day”:

    He told them that particular day had started about 5.45am when he read the newspapers at Premier House in Wellington before going for a run and heading to the gym. He was back at Premier House by about 6.30am ……..

    Wow! Amnesia or what? In 45 minutes read the papers, went for a run, went to the gym and back to Premier House. Super-man Key moves at the speed of lightening.

  18. Brian 18

    John needs to see a budgeting advisor or risk having his income reduced or stopped. Might as well make sure he doesn’t breed again whilst he’s there, too.

    • Jasper 18.1

       As long as the financial adviser isn’t using the latest “Blinglish” software package that only provides guesstimates Brian. The treasury’s outsourced IT contractors are still trying to get the system integrated into all of the government departments this week, however as was experienced by IRD on Monday the system choked & crashed. Thousands of businesses couldn’t get their returns in on the 7th May. St Schultz (Gerry the pie murderer) transport ministry hasn’t been able to integrate a new service bus card system to an infratil NZ owned bus co. NZ Bus and has threatened to cancel their contract and will probably sell that off too to a foreign multination investor waiting in the wings?   Today we find the department of immigration has allowed an extra 300+ foreigners to apply for jobs that over 348,000 unemployed New Zealanders are competing for. Also, the Ministry of Social Development no longer includes in the quarterly unemployment reports the 14,000 youth between the ages of 15 – 17. Oh and the package doesn’t recognise the Maori party’s Whanau Ora funding allocation(s) and has moved that $520m of funding to MSD! Haha! Poor Pita & T. Turia, suckered in by the white man again. And on top of that, the Nat’s are crying that their internal party & government ministry information system has got a serious leak?? For fuck sake go figure! Privatisation of government departments staff and systems & services brings efficiencies and reduces costs?? These clowns really are a bunch of fuckwits! No wonder PinoKeyo’s having a bad day he’s just woken from his delusion stupor and realised, he wants out!! Thank fuck for that!!  
       

      • Reagan Cline 18.1.1

        Infratil share price has risen slightly so far today after 54 trades averaging $2,843.

  19. vto 19

    Frankly, that (Key’s view) is appalling. In many many ways. He should just fuck off right now.

  20. Mick McCrohon 20

    And then there is the act of treason that is about to be committed IN SECRET if Key gets his way !

    Quote “What is it that raises the concern of so many eminent lawyers? It is the prospect that our Government is about to trade away – in secret – an important part of our powers of self-government.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10804415

    • ianmac 20.1

      Yes Mick. Here we are picking over little things when the elephant should emerge from the jungle and be known and feared by all. Pretty bad threat to our sovereignty perhaps worse than the Crafar Farm sellout.

      • Colonial Viper 20.1.1

        Definitely, most definitely, worse than the Crafar farm sell out.

        If we wish to stop asset sales in future, China or other foreign powers could stop us via the TPPA.

  21. captain hook 21

    he always was a whinger.

  22. Jester 22

    Yeah, next thing we will see is him crying like a little bitch at Waitangi.

  23. captain hook 23

    all tories are whingers.
    aren’t they jester?

  24. Treetop 24

    What is the point in being ambitious when you are unable get a good result?

    Everything Key touches is now being snagged because his policies will only work for the minority of NZers.

  25. captain hook 25

    he is not ambitious.
    he just wants everybody to like him.
    everyday!
    pleeze.

    • felix 25.1

      Yep. And you know what?

      He’ll leave office broken, exposed, and disgraced – just like his hero Muldoon.

      And the money, the Hawaiian home, and private jet will never make up for the emptiness and self-loathing at having failed at the one thing that ever mattered to him.

  26. Name 26

    Also the spies/police are destroying basic human rights with their domestic acoustic emissions.

  27. Roy 27

    Should we send him some cheese to go with that whine?

  28. Maui 28

    Key seems to be physically aging, fast ..

  29. Gruntie 29

    Good old John – always a bob each way – on gay marriage he says – “I dont oppose it” – which is not the same as saying “I support it” – he wants it both ways – you could say his stance is bi-sexual, so leave John Key alone!

  30. Jasper 30

    …. But lets not get side tracked. A zero budget means PinoKeyo’s policies have failed to grow the economy for the private sector to provide jobs jobs…. Job Summit 2009/2010 170,000 jobs, Yeah Right! $41b dollars deficit in 3.5 years. No progress in the re-construction of Christchurch, Cantab’s have to wait another 100 days for Gerry the Pie Murderer to think up something while J Shipley and her mates earn a $1000/day for?
    May 2012 officially 349,000 people unemployed, 2000 people less than 2009 at the cost of $17.5b dollars. Expensive jobs, must of been the cost in subsidies & private sector welfare to all the contractors & consultants hired to do … nothing. Paula says they’ve created 65,000 jobs but her own ministry’s unemployment figures don’t reflect that?Hmm I wonder why? Oh she said that when in the “house” or is it because the numbers are bullshit or can it be the Blinglish software package again, they’re using not working properly or is it because of the uncertainty in Europe, again? 

    3.5 years of arse-perational bullshit! Time to fuck him off!

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