Key / Peters 2014

Written By: - Date published: 9:21 am, September 27th, 2012 - 50 comments
Categories: election 2014, Ethics, john key, winston peters - Tags: , ,

A couple of days ago Duncan Garner did a bit of stirring. Noting the obvious, that the Nats are in trouble for the 2014 election and their obvious coalition partners are dog tucker, Garner speculated on the prospect of a Key / Peters coalition.

Key is refusing to rule out a deal with Peters in 2014. After quoting back some of the many negative and pretentious comments that Key has made about Peters over the years, Garner asked:

“But surely Key is too principled for that. Surely he won’t trade his past principles in the pursuit of power?”.

Ha hah. Yeah Duncan has his tongue firmly in his cheek. The Banks scandal has wiped out any last pretension Key ever had to “principles”. Kim Dotcom has him pegged:

“It’s a very fragile majority, the balance of power is threatened by the John Banks affair so I think the prime minister has had to make a choice: am I going to uphold high ethical standards or do I want to remain in power?”

Key and the Nats will choose “remain in power” every time. As Bill English said: “despite the highly principled statements … winning is everything my man”.

The Nats are perfectly predictable. But I wondered how Peters might react. Question answered:

Peters welcomes National coalition

Winston Peters has welcomed moves from Prime Minister John Key about working together after the 2014 election.

It would almost be worth it to watch Peters extract his price on the govelling Nats. Almost – but not quite. Labour / Greens need to get so far ahead that the nightmare Nat / NZF coalition isn’t possible. Otherwise it’s Deputy PM Peters anyone?

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  1. weka 1
    27 September 2012 at 9:42 am

    Thanks for this r0b. The left needs to stop relying on the idea that NZF would support a L/G government. Not only has Peters repeatedly shown himself to be unreliable in terms of being honest about who he will go into govt with, he has also in the past made it clear he will not go into govt with the Greens. Should we really be waiting until after the next election to find out if that is still true? Does the left think a L/G/NZF govt is even viable?

     
    “Labour / Greens need to get so far ahead that the nightmare Nat / NZF coalition isn’t possible”

    This is what we need to be focussing on. Now. Every poll that comes out should be looked at in terms of seats and coalition partners, not just percentages of the vote. 

    • Jokerman 1.1
      27 September 2012 at 9:11 pm

      Let Us Not Forget; Mr peters record on the “yellow peril” He is not very welcoming to our South East Asian Neighbours, regretably. (which looking at the colour of his complexion, is a little ironic)

  2. higherstandard 2
    27 September 2012 at 9:48 am

    It is far more likely that there will be cast of fools from Green/Lab/Winstonfirst/Mana/Maori government led by Norman than a cast of fools forming a Nat/Winston first government.

    What ever happens after the election you can be sure of two things

    1. All and sundry will sell and promise whatever they need to in order to get control of the treasury benches
    2. Sweet FA will change for Joe and Josephine public while the politicians and their associated hangers on continue to prove themselves to be contemptible turds.

    • Dr Terry 2.1
      27 September 2012 at 9:57 am

      Make no mistake, duplicity is the trade of many politicians.

    • King Kong 2.2
      27 September 2012 at 9:59 am

      How dare you be so cynical. I have been led to believe that a Cunliffe led Labour government could cure cancer.

      [lprent: We can only wish. But what would we do without you? :twisted:]

      • Colonial Viper 2.2.1
        27 September 2012 at 10:05 am

        Oh, that’s just your gullibility.

        • King Kong 2.2.1.1
          27 September 2012 at 10:12 am

          I guess we will never know CV as you must be quite close to having made the finishing touches to your army of revolution which will shoot all the rich and provide decades of magnificant egalitarian rule.

          • millsy 2.2.1.1.1
            27 September 2012 at 10:16 am

            Yeah well, the poor are having to live in trailer parks because the rich begrudge paying more taxes, so perhaps they should be shot.

          • Colonial Viper 2.2.1.1.2
            27 September 2012 at 10:19 am

            Shoot the rich or starve the poor. Great political economic options you give us King Kong.

            • King Kong 2.2.1.1.2.1
              27 September 2012 at 10:26 am

              Unfortunately your plan involves shooting the rich then as a consequence, starving everyone.

              • Tiger Mountain …
                27 September 2012 at 10:42 am

                The Wolfie Smith (Tooting Popular Front) approach “up against the wall mate, bop! bop! bop!” offers only swift gratification, far more satisfying to put the rich in tiny apartments with busted washing machines and no vehicle on a relevant benefit income with a teen payment card for expenditure.

                • King Kong …
                  27 September 2012 at 11:26 am

                  Problem with that is they wouldn’t be there long as they are not moaning, lazy, drug adled morons and would do something about improving their lot.

                  • Shona …
                    27 September 2012 at 12:39 pm

                    every rich person I have known has had a substance abuse/addiction problem. More than half of them were allergic to work few of them had marketable skills and as for IQ money has yet to equate with intellect in my experience.
                    Oh and I know far too many of these Tory twats due to my old age.

  3. millsy 3
    27 September 2012 at 9:59 am

    Its very easy to say that NZ First will never go with National, but I thought that before I sat in the living room and watch him give that speech that seemed to go for ages before finally declaring that he would go with National back in 96. I hope Labour learnt learnt from that year, and not rely too much on WF….

    And another thing. Peters has this thing about being all radical in opposition, but becoming all establishment in government. He showed that during his tenure as Treasurer. He was the one who deregulated ACC, removed the last of the car tariffs, sold off CEL and AIA (think about that before you oppose asset sales, mate), started to kill off the producer boards, and so on and so forth.

  4. Matthew Hooton 4
    27 September 2012 at 10:44 am

    I don’t like to break this to you, but the likelihood of a Key/Peters axis is old news: see http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/review-report-hands-key-third-term-ck-125700

    • tc 4.1
      27 September 2012 at 10:47 am

      But you do like it matthew, and shouting down people rather than let them have their say on radio, you seem to like that to.

    • Te Reo Putake 4.2
      27 September 2012 at 11:00 am

      Funnily enough, not many Standard readers have NBR subscriptions, so your prescient article may have passed us all by. But thanks for the link, the honest analysis of Key’s dwindling chances in the article has made my day.
       

      • lprent 4.2.1
        27 September 2012 at 11:35 am

        …not many Standard readers have NBR subscriptions…

        I used to have one for nearly 15 years. But they got too damn boring to read over time. There are only so many times you can hear the same doctrinaire messages without a reference to and at least a cursory (albeit derisive) look at the alternatives. It got so bad that it just read like an Act manifesto for our local plunderers.

        Dropped them at the end of the 90’s. Spend the subscription on something that was a bit more rational. But I guess I’m not your average reader of the Standard 😈

        • Te Reo Putake 4.2.1.1
          27 September 2012 at 12:39 pm

          I gave up on the NBR a few years when they defamed me. But it was fun getting the editor to go into grovelling retraction mode!

    • gobsmacked 4.3
      27 September 2012 at 11:37 am

      Key/Peters has been an option for 2014 since about 11 pm on election night, 2011. You don’t need to be some Machiavellian maestro, some self-important “pundit”. You just need a memory and a calculator.

      Are there still people who believe in the empty phrase “rule out”? Have they forgotten Peters and Bolger in 1996? Or Peters’ phone pantomime in 2005? It’s a “dinnamic envirmnt”, and everything is null and void from the moment the polls close and the votes are counted.

      Labour / Greens need to get so far ahead that the nightmare Nat / NZF coalition isn’t possible.

      This basic truth should be tattoed on every Labour MP’s forehead. They don’t have to “rule out” NZ First (meaninglessly), they just have to work their butts off making them irrelevant.

      • Matthew Hooton 4.3.1
        27 September 2012 at 11:40 am

        Exactly right. Key wants a third term. He can’t get one with Act/UF/MP. Therefore he needs Peters. Peters wants to be deputy PM or something similar. Labour can’t offer that because of the Greens. QED

        • Te Reo Putake 4.3.1.1
          27 September 2012 at 12:37 pm

          ” Labour can’t offer that because of the Greens.”
           
          Not so. I don’t think the Greens will seek the deputy leadership because it would elevate one of the co-leaders above the other in the pecking order. The door will remain open for Winston to ask for that job, even if Labour would prefer to have him somewhere further down the chain.

          • gobsmacked 4.3.1.1.1
            27 September 2012 at 12:59 pm

            In fact, the “hydra-headed monster” (Key’s words) is more likely to be National-led than Labour. The best chance of a simple two-party deal is Green/Labour. It’s Key who wants Banks and Dunne and Turia and Sharples and Peters and Craig and whoever else.

            The “commentators” (and Right spinners) have got it arse-about-face, but that’s because Labour are letting them. Labour should simply announce that they want a Lab/Grn government – to take the initiative. If they don’t, then they (especially Shearer) constantly sound confused and defensive. Sure, they’ll take any party’s support – anybody would – but they don’t have to make it look that way.

            “I intend to form a Labour/Green government.” Say it loud and clear and throw down the gauntlet.

        • mike e 4.3.1.2
          27 September 2012 at 10:48 pm

          Mad Hatter The greens won’t form a coalition with labour instead they will just vote with labour on confidence and supply! Then sort out what Policy they have in common then push for concessions on green policy!
          Being in coalition with any govt is the death nail for any party look at your Act party!

      • fatty 4.3.2
        27 September 2012 at 11:41 am

        “This basic truth should be tattoed on every Labour MP’s forehead. They don’t have to “rule out” NZ First (meaninglessly), they just have to work their butts off making them irrelevant.”

        You are right gobsmacked…I would also add that Shearer will probably lose about 10 points in the pre-election debates. So the Lab/greens etc need a substantial lead, and they need to do it soon.
        A change in Labour leadership would mean that a 10 point cushion would not be required, because any other possible leader would be fine in a pre-election debate.

        • gobsmacked 4.3.2.1
          27 September 2012 at 12:04 pm

          Shearer will probably lose about 10 points in the pre-election debates.

          Tough but fair. Many people aren’t immersed in daily politics and will only pay attention during the full-on “presidential” campaign. Shearer is nowhere near ready for that.

    • David H 4.4
      27 September 2012 at 8:59 pm

      And the comments are so for this.

      #4 by NeillR 1 month ago in reply to John Morrison

      Agreed. In fact, i would rather vote Greens than for National if they are going to do deals with Peters and/or Craig.

      They too appreciate comedy too.

    • mike e 4.5
      27 September 2012 at 10:39 pm

      How many rats can Key swallow!
      Given Craig and Peters both are against asset sales!
      Craig is a Gaffe prone idiot!
      How many times has National stabbed Peters in the back!
      Who said the Maori party was going with National !

  5. ak 5
    27 September 2012 at 10:50 am

    “Now he’s been found out because he has no more friends,” says Mr Peters.

    “He lied about me. He simply lied about me.”

    “It just shows you how flexible his so-called standards are,” says Mr Peters

    Hmmmm…..called him a liar with no standards.

    Yes, he’s welcoming the free (and forced) respect and kudos given by this desperate Natz gambit – like the supremely canny populist he’s always been – but they nearly killed him. Literally.

    Winnie doesn’t forget little things like that; and if he’s giving the nat chooks the odd little scrap of encouragement, be assured it’s with a steely eye and a very sharp knife whetted for 2014.

    • Jim Nald 5.1
      27 September 2012 at 12:44 pm

      Dear darling Winston must be running out of all available political kama sutra positions with various members in the House? By now, he ought to deserve a big clap.

  6. OneTrack 6
    27 September 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Yes it’s so shocking that Key should even consider going into a coalition with someone like Winston Peters.

    By the way, what position will Peters have in the ardently hoped for 2014 coalition of NZF, Mana, UF, Green and Labour?

  7. jack 7
    27 September 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Winston isn’t going with National. Duncan Gardner is shit stiring and of course trying to loose NZ first votes. Most who voted for Winston detest National. Winston just said on his Q&A web site that he wold not support any party but go by bill by bill basis. He said this in 2011 and so far has stuck by it.

  8. karol 8
    27 September 2012 at 4:30 pm

    I could see Winston going with a Key government if the numbers fall that way.

    But Peters certainly laid into Key and his cavalier approach to government and GCSB oversight in the Urgent Debate today.

    Peters described Key as a typical Merrill Lynch “wideboy”, all flash and little substance; liking the high profile of a PM, but taking little responsibility; mincing on the catwalk, 3-way handshakes; flying off to Hawaii or down the road for coffee surrounded by a big contingent of minders.

    Lacking the oversight required by his office that others have done well before him: Hollyoak, Muldoon, Kirk, Clark etc. All so much better at taking responsibility than Key.

    And Peters said, come the next election, it’ll be “Good nigh, nurse” for Key.

    But, I agree, in the end, for Peters, it’ll all depend how the numbers fall at election time.

    • ianmac 8.1
      27 September 2012 at 4:55 pm

      I wish Mr Peters had come out and said clearly what he thinks during the Urgent Debate. Pretty wishywashy eh? (Kidding.) Grant Robertson was pretty explicit on those items of Key ignorance which trouble many of us.

      Just heard part of Farrar on the Moira show explaining why it is of no matter and just a simple misunderstanding, and there is no need to look closer. I think that that was what he was saying. Anyway wasn’t it great that he happened to be on the Panel on this day. Fortuitous.

      • karol 8.1.1
        27 September 2012 at 4:58 pm

        Ah, yes. I think Chauvel said in the urgent debate that the government held on to the report while it prepared the way it spun the story, and lined up its tame bloggers. Well done RNZ – channeling the government’s blog meisters.

  9. karol 9
    27 September 2012 at 6:55 pm

    Just looking at NZ First’s website. I have always thought of this party as old style conservative – right wing. But looking at their statement of what they stand for….. how is it different from a centre left party?

    http://nzfirst.org.nz/what-we-stand-for

    New Zealand First was set up to arrest the social and economic decline of this country and to restore its status as a land of fairness and opportunity. We believe in the dignity of work and adequate reward for labour. The basic needs of adequate food, shelter, healthcare and education must be met. The state must also protect its citizens and ensure their wellbeing is not threatened by reckless trade and defence alliances. We believe society should protect those most vulnerable. New Zealand First wants to attack the appalling level of poverty and the lack of fairness in economic and social policies. As a country we have to use our resources and our ingenuity to earn more

    Though, it may all be in the interpretation of social decline , which I imagine comes from a socially conservative position.

    And comparing this with National’s “vision and values”, which seems to have an Orwellian gloss to me:

    http://www.national.org.nz/About/vision.aspx

    National’s Vision For New Zealand

    The National Party seeks a safe, prosperous and successful New Zealand that creates opportunities for all New Zealanders to reach their personal goals and dreams.

    We believe this will be achieved by building a society based on the following values:

    • Loyalty to our country, its democratic principles and our Sovereign as Head of State
    • National and personal security
    • Equal citizenship and equal opportunity
    • Individual freedom and choice
    • Personal responsibility
    • Competitive enterprise and rewards for achievement
    • Limited government
    • Strong families and caring communities
    • Sustainable development of our environment

    Well I know what they mean by “personal responsibility” and “individual freedom and choice” competition and rewards.

    For a lot of the rest my response is

    yeah, right

    Limited government for them: Nanny Paula state for us.

    National security, caring communities, democracy, sustainable development 🙄

  10. xtasy 10
    27 September 2012 at 8:00 pm

    Come on, get back to your senses, please, this is idiotic.

    Peters most strongly resents Key, he hates him! As long as Key is leading National, he will never work with that lot. Key and English were instrumental in dismantling Peters, when questions arose about his donations by Owen Glenn, when Peters was still supporting the previous, last Labour government.

    Winston will NEVER work with Key, but to be fair, he may consider to talk to and perhaps to some degree work with another National leader. Yet I cannot see Peters get on with English, Joyce or any other male Natiaonal leader of the closer ranks. He may though feel to be able to work with a Nat Party led by Collins, if she would ever manage to take over the lead.

    That is all so hypothetical stuff, by the time this may be considered, there will be another election, which will shake up the landscape considerably. Expect a new right wing party replacing ACT. This may well be the Conservatives. Expect that Labour gains a few more votes again, and Greens also will maintain their strenght, maybe even gain votes.

    Maori Party, certainly UF, ACT, will have to worry being in there again.

    Hone will sadly not gain, due to particular issues I rather not disclose.

    What NZ needs is a new, left of centre party, that adheres to progressive, social, yet economically sensible, fair, education focussed, neutral and cross culture policies. Labour is no longer “left”, the Greens are “socially responsible”, but not really “left”, and Mana on its own lacks resources and personnel to get more foothold.

    If the Alliance had not stuffed up years ago, things may look better. But I suggest a new start, for a true worker, socially deprived and social justice focused party, which at the same time is prepared to offer sensible educational, training and employment approaches, which will mean procreative-economic planning that NZ could well do with.

    • David H 10.1
      27 September 2012 at 9:04 pm

      And the other thing is Winston is getting on in years, So who leads the party when he’s gone? The same with Craig’s mob its all one man bands, with helpers and when the name is gone…..

  11. Fortran 11
    28 September 2012 at 11:03 am

    Garner is only shit stirring – Peters will sell himslf to anybody.

  12. burt 12
    30 September 2012 at 6:03 pm

    Refusing to rule out a deal with Peters; he’s obviously extremely desperate for the levers of power. Who could possibly vote for a political party that isn’t refusing to do a deal with peters….. Dooh.

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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How to Screen Record on a Dell Laptop A Guide to Capturing Your Screen with Ease
    Screen recording has become an essential tool for various purposes, such as creating tutorials, capturing gameplay footage, recording online meetings, or sharing information with others. Fortunately, Dell laptops offer several built-in and external options for screen recording, catering to different needs and preferences. This guide will explore various methods on ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How Much Does it Cost to Fix a Laptop Screen? Navigating Repair Options and Costs
    A cracked or damaged laptop screen can be a frustrating experience, impacting productivity and enjoyment. Fortunately, laptop screen repair is a common service offered by various repair shops and technicians. However, the cost of fixing a laptop screen can vary significantly depending on several factors. This article delves into the ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • How Long Do Gaming Laptops Last? Demystifying Lifespan and Maximizing Longevity
    Gaming laptops represent a significant investment for passionate gamers, offering portability and powerful performance for immersive gaming experiences. However, a common concern among potential buyers is their lifespan. Unlike desktop PCs, which allow for easier component upgrades, gaming laptops have inherent limitations due to their compact and integrated design. This ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
    The annual inventory report of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions has been released, showing that gross emissions have dropped for the third year in a row, to 78.4 million tons: All-told gross emissions have decreased by over 6 million tons since the Zero Carbon Act was passed in 2019. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    1 day ago

  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
    Experiencing a locked computer can be frustrating, especially when you need access to your files and applications urgently. The methods to unlock your computer will vary depending on the specific situation and the type of lock you encounter. This guide will explore various scenarios and provide step-by-step instructions on how ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Faxing from Your Computer A Modern Guide to Sending Documents Digitally
    While the world has largely transitioned to digital communication, faxing still holds relevance in certain industries and situations. Fortunately, gone are the days of bulky fax machines and dedicated phone lines. Today, you can easily send and receive faxes directly from your computer, offering a convenient and efficient way to ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
    In our increasingly digital world, home computers have become essential tools for work, communication, entertainment, and more. However, this increased reliance on technology also exposes us to various cyber threats. Understanding these threats and taking proactive steps to protect your home computer is crucial for safeguarding your personal information, finances, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
    In the ever-evolving world of technology, server-based computing has emerged as a cornerstone of modern digital infrastructure. This article delves into the concept of server-based computing, exploring its various forms, benefits, challenges, and its impact on the way we work and interact with technology. Understanding Server-Based Computing: At its core, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    1 day ago

  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
    The absolute brass neck of this guy.We want more medical doctors, not more spin doctors, Luxon was saying a couple of weeks ago, and now we’re told the guy has seven salaried adults on TikTok duty. Sorry, doing social media. The absolute brass neck of it. The irony that the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    1 day ago

  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
    Buzz from the Beehive Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones relishes spatting and eagerly takes issue with environmentalists who criticise his enthusiasm for resource development. He relishes helping the fishing industry too. And so today, while the media are making much of the latest culling in the public service to ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    1 day ago

  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
    Having written, taught and worked for the US government on issues involving unconventional warfare and terrorism for 30-odd years, two things irritate me the most when the subject is discussed in public. The first is the Johnny-come-lately academics-turned-media commentators who … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    2 days ago

  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
    Mariupol, on the Azov Sea coast, was one of the first cities to suffer almost complete destruction after the start of the Ukraine War started in late February 2022. We remember the scenes of absolute destruction of the houses and city structures. The deaths of innocent civilians – many of ...
    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    2 days ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
    Climate change is expected to generate more and more extreme events, delivering a sort of structural shock to inflation that central banks will have to react to as if they were short-term cyclical issues. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāMy pick of the six newsey things to know from Aotearoa’s ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours, as of 9:16 am on Thursday, April 18 are:Housing: Tauranga residents living in boats, vans RNZ Checkpoint Louise TernouthHousing: Waikato councillor says wastewater plant issues could hold up Sleepyhead building a massive company town Waikato Times Stephen ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    2 days ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
    Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    2 days ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
    This is a re-post from Andrew Dessler at the Climate Brink blog In 2023, the Earth reached temperature levels unprecedented in modern times. Given that, it’s reasonable to ask: What’s going on? There’s been lots of discussions by scientists about whether this is just the normal progression of global warming or if something ...
    Skeptical Science
    2 days ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
    Today in our National-led authoritarian nightmare: Shane Jones thinks Ministers should be above the law: New Zealand First MP Shane Jones is accusing the Waitangi Tribunal of over-stepping its mandate by subpoenaing a minister for its urgent hearing on the Oranga Tamariki claim. The tribunal is looking into the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
    Buzz from the Beehive Point  of Order first heard of the Oceans Secretariat in June 2021, when David Parker (remember him?) announced a multi-agency approach to protecting New Zealand’s marine ecosystems and fisheries. Parker (holding the Environment, and Oceans and Fisheries portfolios) broke the news at the annual Forest & ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Bryce Edwards writes  – Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
    One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dreamThat all the people of the world got together on the same wavelengthAnd began helping one anotherNow in this dream, universal love was the theme of the dayPeace and understanding and it happened this wayAfter such an eventful day ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    3 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    4 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    4 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    4 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    4 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    5 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    5 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    5 days ago

  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    5 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    5 days ago

  • $41m to support clean energy in South East Asia
    New Zealand is demonstrating its commitment to reducing global greenhouse emissions, and supporting clean energy transition in South East Asia, through a contribution of NZ$41 million (US$25 million) in climate finance to the Asian Development Bank (ADB)-led Energy Transition Mechanism (ETM). Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Climate Change Minister Simon Watts announced ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    10 hours ago

  • Minister releases Fast-track stakeholder list
    The Government is today releasing a list of organisations who received letters about the Fast-track applications process, says RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop. “Recently Ministers and agencies have received a series of OIA requests for a list of organisations to whom I wrote with information on applying to have a ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago

  • Judicial appointments announced
    Attorney-General Judith Collins today announced the appointment of Wellington Barrister David Jonathan Boldt as a Judge of the High Court, and the Honourable Justice Matthew Palmer as a Judge of the Court of Appeal. Justice Boldt graduated with an LLB from Victoria University of Wellington in 1990, and also holds ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago

  • Education Minister heads to major teaching summit in Singapore
    Education Minister Erica Stanford will lead the New Zealand delegation at the 2024 International Summit on the Teaching Profession (ISTP) held in Singapore. The delegation includes representatives from the Post Primary Teachers’ Association (PPTA) Te Wehengarua and the New Zealand Educational Institute (NZEI) Te Riu Roa.  The summit is co-hosted ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago

  • Value of stopbank project proven during cyclone
    A stopbank upgrade project in Tairawhiti partly funded by the Government has increased flood resilience for around 7000ha of residential and horticultural land so far, Regional Development Minister Shane Jones says. Mr Jones today attended a dawn service in Gisborne to mark the end of the first stage of the ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago

  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    14 hours ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    17 hours ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner.  The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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