Labour Conference 2012: how is social media formed?

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So, in an effort to make a post not calling for the head of David Shearer, I decided to take a look at the Labour Party’s conference webpages.

And oh boy are they a treat.

I’ve blogged before about Labour’s (or at least, Shearer’s office’s) poor grasp of social media, but whole new levels of “what r u doin” have been reached with this one.

The good:  pre-empt discussion with a hashtag like #Labour2012 so the discussion can be monitored/participated in widely.

The bad:  try to lay down rules about how people get to use their own personal Twitter accounts.

No, I’m deadly (depressedly) serious:

We encourage you to participate in the discussion on social media, and share your thoughts, photos and experiences online.

…

COMMENT PARTICIPATION
Labour looks forward to robust conversations on social media, but respectfully draws attention to the Comment Participation Policy that guides our engagement online.

– Stick to the topic. This will help the online discussion to flow and be more interesting, allowing ideas to develop in a useful way.
– Be Respectful. Profanities, name calling, personal attacks on fellow supporters, politicians or public figures are prohibited.
– No junk mail. No advertising or promoting products or repeatedly posting the same point.
– Have fun! Share your photos, experiences and the exciting ideas that are being discussed.

My urge to jump on Twitter right now and just tweet “FUCK FUCKITY FUCK FUCK FUCK #Labour2012” is strong, friends.

Um, Labour?  Your social media team … they do know how social media works, right?  They’re not just jumping on some “Barack Obama totes used social media so that makes it cool!” bandwagon, please God?

Sure, you aren’t going to respond to random abuse (unless Cameron Slater asks Clare Curran to guest-post again).  You aren’t going to retweet vicious personal attacks.  You reserve the right to block trolls.

But you don’t actually get to fucking tell other people what they may or may not tweet on “your” hashtag.  You don’t get to act like you have some kind of authority over other people’s participation in social media.

You do get to lay down the law on some sites, i.e. what people can and can’t say on your own Facebook page, but … that’s a bit different from “social media” as a whole.

Gods, what am I doing?  I’m trying to educate people who refer to tweets as

‘Live Tweets’

and expect conference attendees to charge the venue’s WiFi to their credit cards for fuck’s sake.

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  1. TheContrarian 1
    13 November 2012 at 7:08 pm

    ” They’re not just jumping on some “Barack Obama totes used social media so that makes it cool!” bandwagon, please God?”

    Why not? They appeared to have jumped on the “David Shearer totes has a transformational, outside the beltway and inspirational background like Barack Obama!” bandwagon

    • QoT 1.1
      13 November 2012 at 7:17 pm

      I know. I was just trying to retain my last sliver of optimism.

      • David H 1.1.1
        13 November 2012 at 9:45 pm

        I am so glad I don’t Twitter or farcebook so I don’t get boring politician bullshit messages, altho I suppose I could spend my time twittering resign, endlessly.

  2. hush minx 2
    13 November 2012 at 7:09 pm

    Well maybe they don’t want live tweets this conference _ actually that would be too organised for them…

  3. Kofi 3
    13 November 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Who is ‘they’ and if they are a ‘they’ then who are you? All this in group/out group language makes me wonder about the agenda of most of these posts. Who takes the time out of their day to be so concerned about such trivial matters?

    • QoT 3.1
      13 November 2012 at 8:06 pm

      Hey Kofi! I’m terribly sorry that my interests do not align 100% with yours. I’ll get right on to only posting about things you think are important!

      As to the use of “they” and “them” in this post, sometimes I’m referring to Labour’s strategic team, i.e. the people in charge of this silly social media approach. Sometimes I’m referring to Labour’s audience. It’s all a matter of context. If you’d rather read “in group/out group language” into a basic use of the third person plural, I’m afraid that’s something I cannot help you with.

  4. Barnsley Bill 4
    13 November 2012 at 7:45 pm

    They have apparently granted Bomber live blogging rights for the conference.
    Who gets the job of telling him to calm down?
    It all smacks a little of amateur hour meets ministry of culture.

    • karol 4.1
      13 November 2012 at 8:51 pm

      Where did you hear bomber was given “live blogging rights”?  He has just posted that he will be live blogging from the conference.  Can’t anyone attending do that?

      • Te Reo Putake 4.1.1
        13 November 2012 at 9:05 pm

        Well, if I can stay awake during the duller sessions, I’ll do my best to keep Standardistas informed.

    • One Tāne Huna 4.2
      14 November 2012 at 8:27 am

      “Live blogging rights” – oh dear. Authoritarian mindset much?

      Hint: that naughty Bomber may feel he doesn’t need permission! Does not compute?

  5. QoT 5
    13 November 2012 at 8:07 pm

    Live blogging is a “right” now? What, are they going to confiscate everyone else’s smartphones at the door? But then who will pay for the WiFi? It’s all so confusing.

    • lprent 5.1
      13 November 2012 at 8:31 pm

      ut then who will pay for the WiFi?

      I was thinking that. After all the first thing I do when I walk into a place that charges for bandwidth is that I turn the wifi hotspot on the HTC one V if I want to use the pad, or jack it on usb for the laptop. Now this is one of the cheapest smartphones you can get, and I already pay for the bandwidth on it that I never use.

      Why would I buy more? Only reason would be if it was dead zone and they are few and far between .

    • King Kong 5.2
      13 November 2012 at 8:56 pm

      No free WiFi? My god, how much is Shane Jones going to jizz down the drain

  6. Tiger Mountain 6
    13 November 2012 at 8:07 pm

    Eff off Barnsley, Labour regulars have to get a gripon on this one. Win lose or draw.

  7. Barnsley Bill 7
    13 November 2012 at 8:19 pm

    Hey, calm down buddy.
    If you think Labour are pants at social media have a look at the complete lack of engagement by National. The only ones who could arguably be called successful are the Greens and that is in my opinion because nobody ever goes after them. They are still not taken seriously by anybody who picks holes in political parties.
    And they pick subjects that while being impossible to attain are hard to attack. Linking dolphins and penguins with scary hard left socialism is the most genius marketing ploy of this century.

    • QoT 7.1
      13 November 2012 at 8:24 pm

      You know, as someone who actually wants the left to succeed, I’m surprisingly unfussed by National sucking at social media engagement.

      On the other hand, I’m quite annoyed by half-assed attempts by Labour to look cool and forward-thinking in this space, but fucking it up.

      Maybe I should write a post to explain my irritation. But just thinking about it gives me the weirdest sense of deja vu …

      • Colonial Viper 7.1.1
        13 November 2012 at 8:32 pm

        Social media and clicktivism are not game changers for Labour. The people who Labour needs to engage with and actually get out to vote don’t tweet and FaceBook in their spare time, even if they have internet.

        • millsy 7.1.1.1
          13 November 2012 at 8:44 pm

          Nothing beats getting out in public and beating the streets, and knocking on doors, going to public halls (or the ones that havent been sold off and closed down), or even handing out flyers.

        • weka 7.1.1.2
          13 November 2012 at 9:22 pm

          Do you have some research to back that up CV? I can’t quite believe what you say – there must be some Labour voters on FB etc or do you think all the web literate Labour voters are now voting Green?

          • Colonial Viper 7.1.1.2.1
            13 November 2012 at 9:34 pm

            Do you have some research to back that up CV?

            Nope, I just know it. Maybe we could go away and do a 2 year study on it though? It couldn’t be published in time to help in the 2014 election, but maybe in the 2017?

            /sarc

            there must be some Labour voters on FB etc or do you think all the web literate Labour voters are now voting Green?

            Please examine turnout for 2011.

            They. Are. Not. Voting.

            • kiwicommie 7.1.1.2.1.1
              13 November 2012 at 9:38 pm

              Most families are rarely on Facebook (save to talk to friends), and teenage girls and boys can’t vote. 😉

            • weka 7.1.1.2.1.2
              13 November 2012 at 10:25 pm

              Who.Are.Not.Voting?
               
              You seem to think that ALL of the people that didn’t vote are the same and that they don’t use social media. In the circles I move in, many of the people that don’t vote use social media. Hence my question.
               
              “Please examine turnout for 2011.”
               
              Is there a demographic breakdown of that?

            • dancerwaitakere 7.1.1.2.1.3
              14 November 2012 at 12:51 pm

              Oh so all of the 16-21 year olds who do not have any political engagement at the moment are not important to Labour?

              God.

              Seriously. This is just GIFTING the youth vote to the Greens. a coherent social media strategy is part of Labour appearing to be not just some far away land of politicians, but a relatable political movement.

    • fatty 7.2
      13 November 2012 at 8:48 pm

      “Linking dolphins and penguins with scary hard left socialism is the most genius marketing ploy of this century.”

      Boring.
      The most genius marketing ploy of this century has been the ongoing framing of leftish parties as socialist – despite their capitalist policies which are obvious to anyone with a brain.

      • thatguynz 7.2.1
        14 November 2012 at 10:10 am

        I disagree.  The most genius marketing ploy of the century is letting private institutions create money and then charging interest on this “book entry money” – all the while fuelling various consumerism “bubbles” to keep the cycle perpetuating..  🙂

  8. Shane Gallagher 8
    13 November 2012 at 8:59 pm

    Wow – National have snuck someone into the media team and is doing a great job with the photos…

  9. kiwicommie 9
    13 November 2012 at 9:05 pm

    I stopped reading the Labour blogs after I found some questionable comments on them by a senior Labour politician. Not worth my time reading them really.

    • weka 10.1
      14 November 2012 at 9:41 am

      Nice one. Shearer was one thing, but to have such a sustained ignorance within the MPs, and presumably the advisors, is mind boggling.
       

  11. Craig Glen Eden 11
    14 November 2012 at 8:45 am

    I totally agree bomber Shearer Little and Cosgrove couldn’t have been so bloody dumb. You influence through social media it might not win you the vote today but the seed/thought may give you the momentum and a vote in the future, social media is all about framing, this Labour caucus has no bloody idea none. Sadly we have way more problems than just Shearer in Labour.

    To Andrew Little bloggers vote you bloody dumb arse and they belong to Labour so they do get to vote yes even at conference. No wonder you didnt win New Plymouth !Little gets SMUCK of the day!

    • karol 11.1
      14 November 2012 at 8:50 am

      +1
      And I had been thinking little was at least a contender for a top ministerial role.  He has given some good speeches in the House. But now he just looks like another MP more beltway-bubble than representative of an inclusive society: one that supports those struggling on the margins. 

      • felix 11.1.1
        14 November 2012 at 9:01 am

        He was a lot more impressive before he started spending time in parliament. Looks to me like he’s been instructed on how to present himself and it’s just not a natural fit.

  12. Matthew Hooton 12
    14 November 2012 at 9:03 am

    They have also banned the Truth from covering their conference because they don’t like the editor. Say what you like about that particular paper and its new editor, but Josie Pagani, Chris Trotter and Willie Jackson all write for it and you would think it should be able to attend the conference.

    • felix 12.1
      14 November 2012 at 9:04 am

      Why? What’s possibly in it for Labour?

      Should National give “Socialist Worker” press passes for their conferences too?

      • Matthew Hooton 12.1.1
        14 November 2012 at 9:08 am

        As it happens, National always allowed Chris Trotter to register when he was running The Political Review. But I also don’t think “Socialist Worker” is the right comparison. Truth has been around since 1887 and is, for better or worse, an established newspaper. It has a range of writers, including those I mentioned above, and reaches a working class audience. To ban it from having one of its staff sitting alongside the press pack is not a good look.

        • felix 12.1.1.1
          14 November 2012 at 9:55 am

          Whatever Matthew.

          Slater has spent his entire “career” building a reputation as the least trustworthy person in the nz blogosphere, the biggest liar, the most unhinged, proud of illegally publishing the identities of the victims of sex crimes, happily spreading hatred and bigotry wherever he goes.

          Even the mongs at Kiwiblog found his first edition of “Truth” distasteful and stupid.

          He has spent years deliberately fashioning himself as a “wild card”. Bit late to start complaining that no-one wants him in the deck.

        • thatguynz 12.1.1.2
          14 November 2012 at 10:14 am

          Come on Matthew – it’s a stretch and a half to call The Truth a “newspaper”.  Just by virtue of the fact it is written on newsprint does not automatically make it a newspaper.  Tabloid? – perhaps..  Advertorial? – perhaps..  Several other less salubrious options? – perhaps..  but a newspaper? – no.

        • Colonial Viper 12.1.1.3
          14 November 2012 at 10:16 am

          Hooten, take a shower, you gotta small from all that cuddling up to Slater.

    • lprent 12.2
      14 November 2012 at 9:13 am

      They didn’t ban “the Truth” they banned Cameron Slater. Chris Trotter is going isn’t he? You really should leave some logic in your spin sometimes.

      I suspect that if the Truth put up someone else who hadn’t already gotten themselves banned from a National party conference (as a minor one of his wall of ears or whatever he calls it) then they’d get in.

      But journo’s at Labour party conferences are meant to sit and observe or have quiet conversations with people. Who could trust Cameron to do just those things? For that matter he’d probably spend much of the time writing stories about who was sitting with whom and weaving another conspiracy from it because he simply doesn’t understand very much.

      Basically if he acts like a barbarian for years, then why would people expect that just getting a job would make him any different?

      • One Tāne Huna 12.2.1
        14 November 2012 at 9:18 am

        “They didn’t ban “the Truth” they banned Cameron Slater”

        Thanks for that LP: I knew I couldn’t take Hooten’s word for it.

      • Matthew Hooton 12.2.2
        14 November 2012 at 9:29 am

        That’s even worse. That’s the Labour Party deciding which reporters newspapers can send along. Like when Muldoon banned Tom Scott from his press conferences. Newspapers get to send who they like. That’s how free and open societies work.

        • One Tāne Huna 12.2.2.1
          14 November 2012 at 9:39 am

          Blow harder, Hooten.

        • weka 12.2.2.2
          14 November 2012 at 9:42 am

          Cameron Slater as the new Tom Scott…. ha, ha, ha, good one Matthew.
           

        • Colonial Viper 12.2.2.3
          14 November 2012 at 10:15 am

          Matthew, Muldoon did do some things right.

        • lprent 12.2.2.4
          14 November 2012 at 10:26 am

          As far as I’m aware the media organisations don’t apply as a organisation, they apply for individuals to attend. It is exactly the same as every delegate to a NZLP conference.

          The paperwork may be done by your LEC (mine always was) or organisation (mine is), but your invitation is for you and you pick up a pack marked and tailored for you. This includes such details as times of interviews, voting rights, etc etc.

          Party conferences are a pain to organize (I’ve had to listen to many Labour HQ people moaning about it over the years) and one of the reasons is because it is completely done on a individual basis.

          In fact I can’t think of ANY conference that I have ever attended where it wasn’t done on an individual basis. Perhaps you are thinking of some dystopian novel you read where faceless corporations rule the word and their minions are interchangeable. But I suspect you wouldn’t fit in well.

          Oh – next spin please…

          • felix 12.2.2.4.1
            14 November 2012 at 12:32 pm

            O noes! Matth-yawn Hooton making up lies and repeating them over and over? In the hope that they become the accepted truth?

            Shock I am.

          • One Tāne Huna 12.2.2.4.2
            14 November 2012 at 12:33 pm

            Hooten fails the reality check? Again?

            We need better weasels.

  13. ak 13
    14 November 2012 at 9:46 am

    Which Slater we talkin bout – the one that pasted our first female and one of our all-time greatest Prime Minister’s face onto pornography and broadcast it to the whole world? That one?
    Oh sure, Labour should really welcome him all right.
    What a right hooter you are cob.

    • King Kong 13.1
      14 November 2012 at 10:35 am

      He never did that to Jenny Shipley. And as an aside, calling her one of the best might be stretching things a little.

    • Barnsley Bill 13.2
      14 November 2012 at 6:07 pm

      AK. That is untrue. It was not him that did the Clark/pron photoshop. Bordering on defamation there champ

      • QoT 13.2.1
        14 November 2012 at 6:12 pm

        Here’s my citation for it. Show me yours.

        • Barnsley Bill 13.2.1.1
          14 November 2012 at 6:36 pm

          That story is wrong. It was another right wing blogger. The same one who shopped James sleep

          • QoT 13.2.1.1.1
            14 November 2012 at 6:41 pm

            Yeah, still going with [citation needed], buddy.

            • Barnsley Bill 13.2.1.1.1.1
              14 November 2012 at 7:37 pm

              Have a trawl through Clint Heines blog. Some of us have been at this for a while QoT. We made posters to burn in our weekly bunker get togethers. Cam has pushed the limits many times but he did not shop Clark in that way

            • Barnsley Bill 13.2.1.1.1.2
              14 November 2012 at 7:47 pm

              QoT. Irrespective of what that inaccurate msm story wrote I am telling you that it was not Cam. It was in fact Clint Heine, it is still on his blog. I remember it well because many of uswho have been at this for a while copied it and both the Clark pic and James Sleep pic ran extensively through most of the right leaning blogs.
              Cam allows the myth to survive because he does not pay any attention to it.
              There are many reasons for you to fear him and or attack him but sadly for this particular myth it is completely untrue.

              • QoT …
                14 November 2012 at 8:53 pm

                Nah, sorry, Bill. I fail to see why the fuck I should grace Clint Heine’s POS blog with my pageviews in order to back up your argument.

        • Barnsley Bill 13.2.1.2
          14 November 2012 at 7:30 pm

          That story is wrong. It was another right wing blogger. The same one who shopped J Sleep

      • millsy 13.2.2
        14 November 2012 at 7:46 pm

        So who was it William?

        And you gotta admit. Slater is a pretty nasty creep…

    • Barnsley Bill 13.3
      14 November 2012 at 6:07 pm

      AK. That is untrue. It was not him that did the Clark photoshop. Bordering on defamation there champ

  14. bomber 14
    14 November 2012 at 9:54 am

    Allowing Slater into the labour party conference would be like allowing Hannibal Lecture run a creche. Slater is NOT a journalist, he is a hate monger. Using ‘he hires Jose Pagani’ as a justification to suggest ‘balance’ is about as dishonest as it gets, Josie is the ‘left’ opinion when the msm want to pretend to look balanced.

  15. Matthew Hooton 15
    14 November 2012 at 10:06 am

    You are really all missing the point. These are the sorts of things Muldoon might have said about Tom Scott. Its not that Labour should “welcome” Slater to the conference. The issue is, if the Truth is registered, it gets to decide who it sends.

    • Colonial Viper 15.1
      14 November 2012 at 10:10 am

      And the conference organisers gets to bar that person if it wishes.

    • felix 15.2
      14 November 2012 at 10:10 am

      Whatever. The only people who think Slater is anything more than an insect are you and the National party.

      Invite him to your own conference and mind your own fucking business.

      • Colonial Viper 15.2.1
        14 November 2012 at 10:13 am

        maybe Slater will bring some topless Page 3 girls with him?

        • King Kong 15.2.1.1
          14 November 2012 at 10:20 am

          They would just be overshadowed by the totty in the Labour caucus. Dyson, Street and Moroney is all the eye candy the Labour delegates need.

    • KhandallaMan 15.3
      14 November 2012 at 11:01 am

      Both Hooton and Slater are lobbyists/propagandists.
      Slater does not pretend to be otherwise.
      Hooton wants to “run with the hare and hunt with the hounds”. He is presented as an independant commentator on radio and a national party insider when doing lobbying. He plays a bit role in Hollow Men. 
      Slater has more transparency than Hooton. 

      Labour needs to become a more open party. Let the whores in. It will be a giggle!  

      • kiwicommie 15.3.1
        14 November 2012 at 12:23 pm

        Both of them don’t care about politics at the end of the day (take Ann Coulter, Karl Rove or Glenn Beck), they like to take it out on politicians; usually they have bias towards attacking the left but it is just male chauvinism/angry white men in a new form.

    • QoT 15.4
      14 November 2012 at 6:03 pm

      The issue is, if the Truth is registered, it gets to decide who it sends.

      Nah, see, from what far more trustworthy people are saying above, the Truth gets to decide which people it puts forwards applications for media credentials for. And then Labour gets to decide who it approves media credentials for. And then no one actually buys into the idea that banning Slater – see aforementioned porn ‘shopping incident – is any kind of attack on the freedom of the press.

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    Screen recording has become an essential tool for various purposes, such as creating tutorials, capturing gameplay footage, recording online meetings, or sharing information with others. Fortunately, Dell laptops offer several built-in and external options for screen recording, catering to different needs and preferences. This guide will explore various methods on ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    16 hours ago

  • How Much Does it Cost to Fix a Laptop Screen? Navigating Repair Options and Costs
    A cracked or damaged laptop screen can be a frustrating experience, impacting productivity and enjoyment. Fortunately, laptop screen repair is a common service offered by various repair shops and technicians. However, the cost of fixing a laptop screen can vary significantly depending on several factors. This article delves into the ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    16 hours ago

  • How Long Do Gaming Laptops Last? Demystifying Lifespan and Maximizing Longevity
    Gaming laptops represent a significant investment for passionate gamers, offering portability and powerful performance for immersive gaming experiences. However, a common concern among potential buyers is their lifespan. Unlike desktop PCs, which allow for easier component upgrades, gaming laptops have inherent limitations due to their compact and integrated design. This ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    16 hours ago

  • Climate Change: Turning the tide
    The annual inventory report of New Zealand's greenhouse gas emissions has been released, showing that gross emissions have dropped for the third year in a row, to 78.4 million tons: All-told gross emissions have decreased by over 6 million tons since the Zero Carbon Act was passed in 2019. ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    18 hours ago

  • How to Unlock Your Computer A Comprehensive Guide to Regaining Access
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    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    19 hours ago

  • Faxing from Your Computer A Modern Guide to Sending Documents Digitally
    While the world has largely transitioned to digital communication, faxing still holds relevance in certain industries and situations. Fortunately, gone are the days of bulky fax machines and dedicated phone lines. Today, you can easily send and receive faxes directly from your computer, offering a convenient and efficient way to ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    19 hours ago

  • Protecting Your Home Computer A Guide to Cyber Awareness
    In our increasingly digital world, home computers have become essential tools for work, communication, entertainment, and more. However, this increased reliance on technology also exposes us to various cyber threats. Understanding these threats and taking proactive steps to protect your home computer is crucial for safeguarding your personal information, finances, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    19 hours ago

  • Server-Based Computing Powering the Modern Digital Landscape
    In the ever-evolving world of technology, server-based computing has emerged as a cornerstone of modern digital infrastructure. This article delves into the concept of server-based computing, exploring its various forms, benefits, challenges, and its impact on the way we work and interact with technology. Understanding Server-Based Computing: At its core, ...
    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    19 hours ago

  • Vroom vroom go the big red trucks
    The absolute brass neck of this guy.We want more medical doctors, not more spin doctors, Luxon was saying a couple of weeks ago, and now we’re told the guy has seven salaried adults on TikTok duty. Sorry, doing social media. The absolute brass neck of it. The irony that the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    19 hours ago

  • Jones finds $410,000 to help the government muscle in on a spat project
    Buzz from the Beehive Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones relishes spatting and eagerly takes issue with environmentalists who criticise his enthusiasm for resource development. He relishes helping the fishing industry too. And so today, while the media are making much of the latest culling in the public service to ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    20 hours ago

  • Again, hate crimes are not necessarily terrorism.
    Having written, taught and worked for the US government on issues involving unconventional warfare and terrorism for 30-odd years, two things irritate me the most when the subject is discussed in public. The first is the Johnny-come-lately academics-turned-media commentators who … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    23 hours ago

  • Despair – construction consenting edition
    Eric Crampton writes – Kainga Ora is the government’s house building agency. It’s been building a lot of social housing. Kainga Ora has its own (but independent) consenting authority, Consentium. It’s a neat idea. Rather than have to deal with building consents across each different territorial authority, Kainga Ora ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    23 hours ago

  • Coalition promises – will the Govt keep the commitment to keep Kiwis equal before the law?
    Muriel Newman writes – The Coalition Government says it is moving with speed to deliver campaign promises and reverse the damage done by Labour. One of their key commitments is to “defend the principle that New Zealanders are equal before the law.” To achieve this, they have pledged they “will not advance ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    23 hours ago

  • An impermanent public service is a guarantee of very little else but failure
    Chris Trotter writes –  The absence of anything resembling a fightback from the public servants currently losing their jobs is interesting. State-sector workers’ collective fatalism in the face of Coalition cutbacks indicates a surprisingly broad acceptance of impermanence in the workplace. Fifty years ago, lay-offs in the thousands ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • What happens after the war – Mariupol
    Mariupol, on the Azov Sea coast, was one of the first cities to suffer almost complete destruction after the start of the Ukraine War started in late February 2022. We remember the scenes of absolute destruction of the houses and city structures. The deaths of innocent civilians – many of ...
    Open ParachuteBy Ken
    1 day ago

  • Babies and benefits – no good news
    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
    Climate change is expected to generate more and more extreme events, delivering a sort of structural shock to inflation that central banks will have to react to as if they were short-term cyclical issues. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāMy pick of the six newsey things to know from Aotearoa’s ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours, as of 9:16 am on Thursday, April 18 are:Housing: Tauranga residents living in boats, vans RNZ Checkpoint Louise TernouthHousing: Waikato councillor says wastewater plant issues could hold up Sleepyhead building a massive company town Waikato Times Stephen ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    1 day ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
    Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    1 day ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
    This is a re-post from Andrew Dessler at the Climate Brink blog In 2023, the Earth reached temperature levels unprecedented in modern times. Given that, it’s reasonable to ask: What’s going on? There’s been lots of discussions by scientists about whether this is just the normal progression of global warming or if something ...
    Skeptical Science
    1 day ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
    Today in our National-led authoritarian nightmare: Shane Jones thinks Ministers should be above the law: New Zealand First MP Shane Jones is accusing the Waitangi Tribunal of over-stepping its mandate by subpoenaing a minister for its urgent hearing on the Oranga Tamariki claim. The tribunal is looking into the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
    Buzz from the Beehive Point  of Order first heard of the Oceans Secretariat in June 2021, when David Parker (remember him?) announced a multi-agency approach to protecting New Zealand’s marine ecosystems and fisheries. Parker (holding the Environment, and Oceans and Fisheries portfolios) broke the news at the annual Forest & ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Bryce Edwards writes  – Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
    One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dreamThat all the people of the world got together on the same wavelengthAnd began helping one anotherNow in this dream, universal love was the theme of the dayPeace and understanding and it happened this wayAfter such an eventful day ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    3 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    4 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago

  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 7, 2024 thru Sat, April 13, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week is about adults in the room setting terms and conditions of ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • Feline Friends and Fragile Fauna The Complexities of Cats in New Zealand’s Conservation Efforts

    Cats, with their independent spirit and beguiling purrs, have captured the hearts of humans for millennia. In New Zealand, felines are no exception, boasting the highest national cat ownership rate globally [definition cat nz cat foundation]. An estimated 1.134 million pet cats grace Kiwi households, compared to 683,000 dogs ...

    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    5 days ago

  • Or is that just they want us to think?
    Nice guy, that Peter Williams. Amiable, a calm air of no-nonsense capability, a winning smile. Everything you look for in a TV presenter and newsreader.I used to see him sometimes when I went to TVNZ to be a talking head or a panellist and we would yarn. Nice guy, that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago

  • Fact Brief – Did global warming stop in 1998?
    Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Did global warming stop in ...
    Skeptical Science
    6 days ago

  • Arguing over a moot point.
    I have been following recent debates in the corporate and social media about whether it is a good idea for NZ to join what is known as “AUKUS Pillar Two.” AUKUS is the Australian-UK-US nuclear submarine building agreement in which … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago

  • No Longer Trusted: Ageing Boomers, Laurie & Les, Talk Politics.
    Turning Point: “What has turned me away from the mainstream news media is the very strong message that its been sending out for the last few years.” “And what message might that be?” “That the people who own it, the people who run it, and the people who provide its content, really don’t ...
    Bowalley Road
    6 days ago

  • Mortgage rates at 10% anyone?
    No – nothing about that in PM Luxon’s nine-point plan to improve the lives of New Zealanders. But beyond our shores Jamie Dimon, the long-serving head of global bank J.P. Morgan Chase, reckons that the chances of a goldilocks soft landing for the economy are “a lot lower” than the ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago

  • Sad tales from the left
    Michael Bassett writes –  Have you noticed the odd way in which the media are handling the government’s crackdown on surplus employees in the Public Service? Very few reporters mention the crazy way in which State Service numbers rocketed ahead by more than 16,000 during Labour’s six years, ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago

  • In Whose Best Interests?
    On The Spot: The question Q+A host, Jack Tame, put to the Workplace & Safety Minister, Act’s Brooke van Velden, was disarmingly simple: “Are income tax cuts right now in the best interests of lowering inflation?”JACK TAME has tested another MP on his Sunday morning current affairs show, Q+A. Minister for Workplace ...
    Bowalley Road
    6 days ago

  • Don’t Question, Don’t Complain.
    It has to start somewhereIt has to start sometimeWhat better place than here?What better time than now?So it turns out that I owe you all an apology.It seems that all of the terrible things this government is doing, impacting the lives of many, aren’t necessarily ‘bad’ per se. Those things ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    6 days ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 hours ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    13 hours ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    22 hours ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
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