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Labour, WTF? – a collection of posts

Written By: - Date published: 9:18 am, August 9th, 2012 - 101 comments
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We’ve received a set of guest posts arising from the Stab In the Back comments that Duncan Garner reported on Tuesday and Su’a William Sio. We’ll compile the best here. As always, we exercise judgement in not publishing truly nutty stuff but there’s no editorial line, no endorsement of guest posts we publish – they just have to pass the test of being informative, lucid, and left.

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Where’s the leadership?
Veterans of the 5th Labour Government see a lot that’s familiar in The Thick of It. If you fucked up – no matter who you were, from the most junior staffer to the most senior minister – Helen’s right hand would at your throat and writing your apology for you. If you really fucked up, you would have to answer to Helen herself.

If Su’a William Sio had done what he did yesterday under Helen, he would have been issuing a ‘clarification’ by midday backing away from his earlier comments that Louisa Wall should withdraw her private members’ bill.

He wouldn’t have had explained to him why what he did as wrong . He would have been expected to work it out himself. And these are the things a) he’s factually wrong that Pasifika oppose marriage equality, they support it more than Pakeha, b) saying ‘we should be concentrating on more important things’ is wrong because Labour does have economic private members’ bills out there and there’s a limit to what you can do in opposition with private members’ bills thanks to the financial veto, c) it’s his right to vote how he likes on a conscience vote but not his right to say a private members bill, which has received caucus approval before being put in the ballot and d) you don’t go fomenting stories about internal divisions in your party – ever.

But, more likely, he wouldn’t have fucked up in the first place. That’s what discipline is. And discipline comes from both firm and successful leadership, which people both think is taking them to power and fear getting on the wrong side of. I haven’t seen that ‘clarification’ from Sio. That’s a failure of leadership.

Since Helen’s been gone, the B Team has been in charge and they’ve relished not having to watch their every step any more. The problem is, they keep on tripping themselves up.

-Old boy
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An exercise for the reader
I think it’s interesting to consider ‘why now’? That often leads to answers as to ‘why’.

Why is Duckie trying to white ant Cunliffe now?

Ok, Shearer’s had some bad polls. Boo hoo.

If you have a few bad polls and your plan is to stick with Shearer, then you work on improving him, get his numbers up at least enough to stave off any run from Cunliffe in the 2013 leadership vote. The last thing you want to do when a leader you back has some bad polls is attack a potential leadership challenger.

You don’t attack Cunliffe if your plan is to stick with Shearer because – as noted by others – it makes Shearer’s leadership look in question. It weakens Shearer’s leadership security when Duckie attacks Cunliffe.

But what if you want Shearer’s leadership in question, except you don’t want Cunliffe to be the alternative because you’ve got your own man lined up, and you want blame for leadership questions sheeted home to someone other than you and your man?

Well, then, you start attacking Cunliffe.

The problem for Duckie and the third contender for leader is that, why the strategy might be sound, the execution was rubbish. It was obvious to everyone, including Garner if you read between the lines, what was going on.

So obvious that the story became not ‘oops, Shearer’s leadership’s looking shakey but Cunliffe’s no good, if only there were some other option’ as Duckie intended but, instead, ‘who’s Duckie working for now, trying to sabotage both David’s at the same time?’ and ‘why do Duckie and whomever he is working for put their personal interests ahead of the party’s?’

Who Duckie’s new front-man might be, I leave as an exercise to the reader. Clue: his name isn’t David.

-Lightseed

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Going rogue
Duncan Garner’s infamous blog post is the straw that broke the camel’s back. The situation with the Labour Party has now become untenable. Something must be done about the rogue Labour Party caucus.

It’s common knowledge that the caucus and the membership were divided over the leadership contest. The membership clearly backed David Cunliffe, but they couldn’t vote, and the caucus imposed their born-of-desperation candidate, David Shearer.

Shearer has never been anyone’s idea of a rising star. He is too inexperienced to lead the party, meaning the ‘leadership’ is done by proxy by the shadowy backers who pushed him forward on the paltry strength of his charming backstory.

But Shearer, while by all accounts a very nice guy, is a very poor communicator. It doesn’t help that he has nothing to communicate. Labour has hardly any publicly confirmed policy positions. The public want to know what Labour would do in government, and they need time to absorb those messages. Shearer is going out on a heartland tour to meet the public, with nothing to sell.

The idea that the public would ever buy Shearer as a PM with training wheels still on, is ludicrous. This insanity was foisted upon us by the ABC faction – Anyone But Cunliffe.

That’s not how you choose a leader. And that’s why we ended up with a guy who couldn’t lead his way out of a soggy paper bag.

The reasons Duncan Garner’s ‘sources’ give against Cunliffe – that he is ‘lazy’, ‘sneaky’ and ‘doesn’t deliver on his promises’ are serious allegations indeed.

But let’s compare apples with apples and see who comes out ahead.

David Cunliffe was gracious to a fault both during and after the leadership contest. He publicly offered his support to whoever was chosen as leader during the contest. He offered his full support to David Shearer after he won, and has continued to refuse to say a bad word about him. He stuck with Labour, accepting the loss of his beloved Finance portfolio, and knowing that every day he goes into work he is working with disloyal, nasty little twerps who are bagging him behind his back. His commitment and loyalty give the lie to those scummy comments that the cowards in Labour’s caucus fed to Garner.

Now, for the other side of the ledger. The ABC club who hate Cunliffe so much. These are the guys who leak nasty comments about their own colleague to the media. While said colleague is out of the country. While their party is struggling in the polls and needs a dose of infighting like a hole in the head. They are the geniuses who elected David Shearer as leader, trashing Labour’s one opportunity to win the 2014 election, just to indulge in their hatred of David Cunliffe.

Their behaviour speaks for itself. If you want to know who the problem is in Labour, look no further.

When Chris Carter was kicked out of the Labour Party, I said good riddance, because anyone who puts their own ego above the welfare of the wider party needs to be kicked out.

The ABC club have Chris Carter syndrome. They believe that they know best, and that they are the true and the right and the just, and everyone else is wrong. If that means dragging their own party through the mud to ensure that they get their own way, so be it.

It’s time for it to stop. Right now.

The membership knows what the party needs. It needs a jolly good clean-out of the ABC faction, sharpish.

If anyone wants to know who these people are, the list below reflects the MPs who publicly declared their vote for Shearer early on:

David Shearer, Grant Robertson, David Parker, Annette King, Maryan Street, Damien O’Connor, Phil Goff, Phil Twyford, Kris Faafoi, Darien Fenton, Clayton Cosgrove, Trevor Mallard, Jacinda Ardern, and Chris Hipkins.

As far as I’m concerned, it is up to each of them to declare now if they are not part of this dirty little faction, and if they stay silent, then that’s all the answer that’s needed.

The question now is what do we do? The membership have very limited power. We can’t force a leadership vote.

I am calling on any decent members of Labour’s caucus to make their voices heard. If you don’t support what the ABC faction has done, trashing your party’s reputation and throwing an election out of spite, then speak now.

Labour’s caucus has the power to force David Shearer to step down. Do the numbers, and do the decent thing. Roll Shearer and elect David Cunliffe.

– Blue

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On point
I can’t believe that we’re still seeing this rubbish after four years. Don’t these people know that they stand on the shoulders of people who have struggled for nearly a century to build this party? How dare they behave like this – ruining what we have built with generations of toil as if its their mere plaything?

– Mike

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No show without punch
I know you’re all dying for my two cents. Well, I won’t be signing the online petition for Shearer to step down. And not just because my membership has lapsed.

I think Shearer was chosen for the wrong reasons. If 2 or 3 MPs (yes, it was that close) had voted for the good of their party rather than out of high school-style siding with the ‘cool’ clique against Cunliffe and his supporters, then we would all be talking about whether Labour would match National by year’s end and speculating on how important portfolios would be divided up with the Greens after 2014 (which is an interesting question that I mean to write about, because I’m still highly confident of a centre-left win in 2014). But they chose Shearer instead.

Shearer’s not a bad guy. He’s raw but that doesn’t have to be a bad thing. Key was raw, Lange was raw. They both won two elections (sure, they governed awfully but one problem at a time!). The problem with Shearer is he’s dreadfully advised by the same useless group of senior staffers who advised Goff into the worst election result in 80 years.

That latest speech – as much of it as I could bear to read – was classic Pagani: opportunistically rightwing, insincere, and a complete failure. And what the fuck is up with getting him to wander around the countryside? That’s what he did for the first three months, remember? The votes Labour has lost are in middle suburban belt in Auckland, in Christchurch, and in Dunedin. That’s where Shearer should be. You’ve got to spend your time targeting the richest concentrations of soft Lab/Nat voters, and those aren’t in Waipukurau.

A more suspicious person would suggest that Shearer has been sent away purposely to lower his profile. But I would suggest it’s really just crappy advisors. It’s their fault we never see him, because they’re not working to create good anti-government stories and putting him up to front on them.

Shearer’s still got 6 months to prove he’s up to it.

Running small target all the way to the election might just work but it’s pretty much leaving it up to Key to continue to fuck up. After six years, I think we’ve all learned that’s not a safe bet.

I think that some ‘senior MPs’ have decided that small target isn’t going to work for Shearer. They’ve been spooked by the end of the dead cat bounce. At the same time, they don’t want Cunliffe because he’s not their buddy. They are that petty. So you see that disgraceful, disloyal, destructive leaking to Garner designed to hurt both Shearer and Cunliffe as they try to clear the field for someone else. And there’s only really one person who that could be.

I don’t know which way it’s going to go but I’m going to make sure my membership’s up to date before the leadership vote next year.

– Eddie

101 comments on “Labour, WTF? – a collection of posts”

  1. alex 1

    Has a situation like this (where the membership/activists clearly prefer a candidate who is not the incumbent, with caucus favouring the incumbent) ever happened in Labour before? And if so, what was the outcome of that problem?

    • IrishBill 1.1

      The 1980’s. Only it wasn’t a leader the members disliked so much as the majority of the caucus. For what it’s worth I think that Shearer still needs a chance. He’s not had the opportunity to lead a caucus that has not been encumbered by poisonous and damaging infighting and, as such, he’s not had the opportunity to really show if he’s up to leading.

      That said, it’s a massive exaggeration to say the caucus doesn’t like Cunliffe. From what I can tell the majority of the caucus have no dislike for either Cunliffe or Shearer. It seems this is a few unpleasant individuals poisoning the well for everyone.

      • higherstandard 1.1.1

        Most of them will be interested in what all politicians are interested in – a good troughing via a safe seat and failing that a nice high place on the list.

        A pox on them all and a double dose for the duck I hope he gets canker of the codpiece.

      • Pete George 1.1.2

        Dumping Shearer is not going to address the core problems.

        s there any realistic chance of:
        a) removing the “few unpleasant individuals”?
        b) Shearer and Cunliffe working together as leader/deputy?

    • Anne 1.2

      It isn’t a case of the membership/activists fighting for one candidate while the caucus favours the incumbent. The leadership contest ended early last December. Members/activists/caucus members, who preferred Cunliffe at that time, immediately got behind Shearer and have stayed there ever since.

      Now we have been betrayed by a handful (and I suspect that is all it is) of cowboy/girl traitors inside the caucus who have deliberately lit the fuse again. And there was one reason and one reason alone… personal, political ambition!

      If no action is taken against the perpetrators I predict that eventually many members will resign – and they will be the local activists who keep the Party alive and well.

  2. Roy 2

    It’s depressing when adults in high and well-paid places behave like children in a primary school playground.

    • higherstandard 2.1

      Politics has been depressing for many decades.

      If it gives you any solace my colleagues in Australia say that their politicians are perhaps even worse than ours.

      • PolishPride 2.1.1

        Thats because once you take a step back and look at the system objectively you can see there very little difference by shifting a couple of degrees to the Left or a couple of degrees to the right. Both sides are about wealth redistribution from within the bounds of current system of the day.
        Its then you will understand ‘Politics’ is depressing whether the politicians behave like children or not….

      • Tom 2.1.2

        Heh ..

  3. shorts 3

    no need to insult those or primary school age Roy, children are much better behaved

    • Roy 3.1

      Yeah, you’re right. I did badmouth the vast majority of primary school aged children. Apologies.

  4. BM 4

    It’s fairly obvious, Shearer and the current Labour team want Cunliffe and the Cunliffe supporters gone.I wouldn’t even be surprised if Shearer was the on talking to Duncan Garner.

    They want you guys to go form your own party and I can see why, you cannot have groups with such different approaches co- existing within the same party.
    There’s only one ending and that’s the destruction of Labour.

    Labour has be a mainstream central party, similar to National, not the revolutionary party so many here want.

    • IrishBill 4.1

      Sorry but that’s a ridiculous analysis. For a start there’s not a great deal of political difference between the “right” and the “left” of the labour party as they’re all social democrats of one shade or another, and secondly, the average Standard reader is the mainstream because most Kiwis are social democrats. If you think the basic Keynesian capitalism and social egalitarianism that’s regularly prescribed on the Standard is “revolutionary” then I’d suggest you’re the one on the fringe.

      • BM 4.1.1

        To be honest bud, 99% of the country has no idea what basic Keynesian capitalism and social egalitarianism even means.

        All they know is the current system seems to work, we’re not a basket case like Greece, most people can still pay the bills and provide for their families and if you work hard the opportunity to get ahead is there.

        What I read here from the Cunliffe supporters is that the current system needs to be tossed out and and some new system put in it’s place.
        Unfortunately, there is no way in hell that is ever going to fly with the majority of Kiwis, most are happy with the status quo, it just needs a bit of fine tuning.

        David Shearer knows this which is why Labour isn’t heading in that direction

        • Olwyn 4.1.1.1

          “The current system seems to work” largely because those for whom it does not work are deprived of a voice. And quite a lot of commentators have noted the way housing has replaced manufacture, the growing gulf between haves and have-nots, etc. Furthermore, Cunliffe has not advocated anything truly extreme, and is in fact better equipped to talk to business in its own language, and to balance competing concerns than anyone in the present team, who are obsessed with branding while offering no central product to which the brand is attached.

          • KJT 4.1.1.1.1

            If most people think the current system is working, how come this comment got 93 likes in the Herald. Not noted for left wing readership.

            “Even Ricardo never suggested that Britain give up making wine altogether, or Portugal textiles.
            In fact no country has ever succeeded on exports alone, without a healthy internal economy.
            And no country has ever succeeded in benefiting from an export economy without State support of the export sector.
            Of course, our pursuit of pure free markets has worked so well? How much has our number of people in poverty increased by, again?”

            Most of us here advocate a return to a democratic, functional and fair society.
            Something that was considered middle of the road, even to National voters, 40 years ago.

            I am sure there a many old time conservatives, who would be as concerned by the sellout of NZ as we are. It is the Neo-liberals who have caused unworkable radical change, to a degree which would once have been unthinkable.

          • prism 4.1.1.1.2

            Olwyn 4 1 1 1

            the present team, who are obsessed with branding while offering no central product to which the brand is attached.

            In a nutshell. And the nut is good and fresh. Time to do the mahi not concentrate on the mana (small m) and personal advantage.

            • Olwyn 4.1.1.1.2.1

              Thanks prism: your mahi/mana word play is most apt.

              • Colonial Viper

                BM said

                All they know is the current system seems to work, we’re not a basket case like Greece, most people can still pay the bills and provide for their families and if you work hard the opportunity to get ahead is there.

                The fact that the current system doesn’t work for up to 1M Kiwis in poverty and restricted socioeconomic mobility is a minor detail to you, right?

                Every person who wants a full time job, should have a full time job, and be expected to perform it to a good standard.

                That’s the system we need.

                • BM

                  That would mean that the current system works for 3.5 million people,that’s 78% of New Zealanders.

                  Seems a bit silly to change a system with such a high success rate, be much better to make a few adjustments to the current system than to throw it out.

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    Except it’s not working for 3.5m. 50% live on 30k or less. That’s poverty level income.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Although I’ve been thinking for a while now that its household income which counts.

                      If one person in a couple is earning $80K pa, and the other is earning $15K pa part time, you don’t get 50% of the household living in poverty. You get two very well off individuals, in terms of lifestyle.

                    • Olwyn

                      @ BM: All poverty is relative, short of death. The guy who will breath for another hour is “better off’ in this sense than the guy who is presently dying.

                      However, there is real hardship in places where reasonable wealth is presupposed and you lack it to a high degree. It means terror of the power bill, terror of the landlord chucking on a coat of paint and seeking a more upmarket tenant, etc, etc, while trying to eat your meagre rations around a couple of broken, aching teeth that will not be fixed and prevent you from publicly smiling. It means trying to meet the demands of a society that presupposes wealth and punishes its lack, day in day out. The hardship may take a different form than that of your guy blowing cocks for $5.00, but it is still serious hardship.

                  • McFlock

                    Wow. A million in poverty is a “high success rate”.
                           
                    That’s the left:tory divide right there. ‘Eradication of social harms like poverty and crime’ vs ‘Cees get degrees in social policy’. And that’s if they think that people living in poverty is a bad thing.

                    • BM

                      Living under a bridge with your family blowing cocks for $5.00 so you can buy your kids a meal, that’s poverty and hardship.
                      Unfortunately that is the life for some people in other countries,kiwis have no idea of what poverty is.

                    • Jackal

                      So stories of hungry kids eating pig slops and cockroaches isn’t a sign of real poverty in New Zealand? Having a million Kiwis living in poverty is not a sign of a successful system… It’s a sign of failure that causes untold misery.

                      It must be nice living in your insulated and ignorant world BM.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Setting your standards too high methinks.

                      Its not poverty until you’re also selling the body of your 10 year old (boy or girl) for the use of various passerbys.

                    • McFlock

                      So we don’t have homeless people in NZ?
                      Good to know.
                           
                      More to the point: why does extreme poverty elsewhere mean that we have to allow poverty to exist here?
                         
                      Again, that’s the ‘cees get degrees’ mentality at play. Surely we should concentrate on being the best country we can be, rather than simply being happy that we can outrun most of the pack.

                    • bad12

                      BM, are you suggesting that the ugliness you outline has not or does not happen in New Zealand,

                      Your obviously extremely blinkered…

        • IrishBill 4.1.1.2

          99% of the country doesn’t know what the zygomatic is but they’ve got one. If tossing out the old system is what you hear then you need some context. That said, if you can point me to a post in which an author (except for our resident radical, Bill) recommends radical change, ie change that is outside of our current democratic capitalist system, then perhaps I’ll reconsider your point.

          • BM 4.1.1.2.1

            Not the authors, more the commentators.
            I usually just skim-read the authors, they always seem to revolve around an anti National/John Key theme, gets a bit dull after a while.
            I mainly read the Standard for the comments.

          • Deano 4.1.1.2.2

            I didn’t know what the zygomatic is, but now I do – thanks Irish!

        • DH 4.1.1.3

          I’m curious to know where the unions fit in this. Do they still have any influence over the Labour party and are they providing much funding these days? Helen Kelly strikes me as the type who would have some quite serious ideological differences with the existing clique but I don’t hear much on that front. Who are the unions backing?

      • PolishPride 4.1.2

        Their is not a great deal of difference between Labour and National full stop.

    • Rupert the Beer 4.2

      Revolutionary party? You’re confusing The Standard with No Right Turn or Tumeke.

      • ropata 4.2.1

        The right wing revolution has already occurred, it will take time for them to complete the looting of NZ.
        That nice Mr Key has been adept at selling his Brash inspired policies to the sheeple.

        Undoing the NACT self enrichment campaign may appear radical to people used to being ripped off.

  5. Leopold 5

    Alex – Well J A Lee liked to claim that he was more popuular than Fraser and even Savage. But the failure of his own little schism suggested he was talking out of his arse

    • bad12 5.1

      69,000 existing State Houses providing homes to the most needy in society would tend to suggest that John A Lee and other radical Socialists in the Savage Government were in fact a raging success…

  6. redWater 6

    I have voted Labour down here in Dunedin in the same way my father did.

    Kids down here just seem so suspicious of the government now. I don’t know whether we did it or National did it, but there is a real swing away from unions and distrust of corporations and big government.

    Are we causing this?

    • PolishPride 6.1

      No you didn’t people (especially kids) are beginning to see the system for what it really is and can see better solutions. Yet the see the system heading down the same old path it always has at best tinkering around the edges and not having any answers to fix the real problems that affect society. They see more and more pandering to big corporations.
      They see profit being put above all else.
      They leave school having been sold on the kiwi dream of get an education, get a job, get married buy a home start a family, only to find that the jobs are not as easy to come by and the median house price is $400K,+.
      They have grown up in a world of technology and automation and many ask why do we have to work. Why doesn’t the system work for us?
      And they are called lazy by our generation.

      • David H 6.1.1

        Its like the Piracy thing. We want the movies/tv series now, and the morons in charge keep sticking to their outdated model, hence the Piracy.

        This time in politics people have gotten sick of the same ol’ same ol’, and are voting with their feet (well not voting really). But it’s the same thing, the ones in power keep on with the same old lies, and same old crap, and the young people look at this and figure why bother voting because they (the morons in power) or the Morons who want to be in power, are NOT listening.

        So they won’t vote, or like me they are sick of same old bullshit coming out of the labour caucus. So I, and maybe them, will vote Green this time. We are sick of the shenanigans coming out of Labour, and until they have a radical cleanup of the idiots who think they are running the show, and who DON’T listen to the most important of people. The VOTERS.

  7. prism 7

    I think there must be deep discussion in Labour MPs opposition about this Duncan Garner thing which doesn’t give Labour any positives. I’ve got to go to the dentist soon to have some very detailed work that can’t be put off any more. I suggest Labour people who have respect for the Party, its aims, its long-standing work for the people (before 1984) and the pride that went with that amongst Labour MPs get the rotteness taken out with those perpetrating it out of any position at all, with by-elections if necessary. And no list spectre rattling chains and wailing.

    David Shearer has done his best and deserves praise but Blue’s suggestion sounds right –
    that he was pushed forward by backers (who exactly, can we have names) who thought the punters would like the sound of his “charming backstory”.

    And Blue lists those who put their names to backing Shearer as being David Shearer, Grant Robertson, David Parker, Annette King, Maryan Street, Damien O’Connor, Phil Goff, Phil Twyford, Kris Faafoi, Darien Fenton, Clayton Cosgrove, Trevor Mallard, Jacinda Ardern, and Chris Hipkins. In the italics form they all are bent. Let’s hear from those who have no truck with all this, let them stand straight and declare themselves.

    As for Su’a William Sio, he needs to practice his politics NZ Labour style, not as an individualistic pollie strutting his stuff about his own opinions in a way that damages the party that has given him his position. This isn’t a Pacific democracy of the kind where individuals rule and working the personal advantages is the game.

    And Lightseed has come up with an interesting version of this chess game, which has some parallel with that serious game as lived in the musical Chess. Bring on the Invigilator. The word untenable has been used by Blue correctly I think.

    I am in the Green party. But we work with Labour. We are a decent, sincere, hard-working party for the good of NZ. We need Labour to be the same.

  8. Jock 8

    I have witnessed the parliamentary wing in action in meetings and was surprised to see the newer MPs and advisors sitting dumbstruck, not daring to speak up whilst the chosen few held court with their opinions and views on how to run the show. The lesser mortals were sitting on their hands and biting their tongues – probably wanting to say what we all feel, right?

    Labour has a big culture problem – the egotistical, over-priviliged and out of touch long-serving MPs are running the show and closed to advice and change. There is no telling them – not the polls, media, voters nor activists. Until the old guard are gone, along with their entitled attitudes, the Labour party will always have this problem.

    • PolishPride 8.1

      Don’t be surprised – having spoken to 3 different MPs on this all have confirmed that in our current system the way it works in reality is that it is only the top 3-4 MPs in a party that have any real power around direction. The rest are merely warming the seats, making up the numbers and biding their time in the hopes that one day they will make it to the top four.

  9. deuto 10

    Buried on Stuff this morning is an article by Tracy Watkins on the Sio and Cunliffe debacles, which does not seem to have been mentioned on TS so far

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7443334/Fresh-ructions-hit-Labour

    The first half of the article seems to suggest that Sio is pretty much on his own re the marriage equality bill. At the very end of the article, Watkins actually quotes Shearer on Cunliffe, which from the wording used suggests that it was an ad hoc response to questions rather than a considered thoughtout statement (which I would have hoped for) intended to address the internal ructions and what he is going to do about these from a leadership perspective.

    But Shearer yesterday hit out at the speculation and said Cunliffe had his full backing.

    There was no suggestion that Cunliffe would be demoted.

    “God no, the guy’s got a huge brain. He’s really across economy policy. Hell no, I want him to be there and want him to keep doing what he’s doing . . . I don’t think there would be anybody else in the caucus who could do it as well as him, to be honest.”

    Alongside the article is a Stuff online poll asking who would be the best leader for Labour – Shearer, Cunliffe, Robertson, Parker, Little, Jones or someone else. Someone else is currently ahead at 37%, with Shearer on 21% and Cunliffe on 20%.

    • Kotahi Tāne Huna 10.1

      Well that’s something at least. I hope that coupled with the public support there is more private action being taken against the poisoner.

      • Colonial Viper 10.1.1

        Its a minimal something. The issue is not what Shearer thinks of Cunliffe, its what Shearer is going to do to maintain discipline in caucus and sort out the MPs who BACKSTABBED a colleague in front of a journalist, at the COST of the entire Labour Party.

        • Anne 10.1.1.1

          Be assured CV, you would love to be a fly on the wall at Labour’s next caucus meeting!

        • prism 10.1.1.2

          Perhaps a bleeding Labour scarecrow in a wheelbarrow needs to be brought forward to get attention, and that will spark off the appropriate response that would be seen around UN battlefields. Can we somehow make the connection that democracy has to be fought for, but in a different way than the Arab Sprung etc. Spring is here, the grass is riz, I wonder where Dave Shearer is? No doubt there is an announcement due to come through the media any moment that will make the above redundant if it wasn’t before I wrote it!

          • Anne 10.1.1.2.1

            The appropriate place for a bollocking is Labour’s caucus meeting next week (parliament is currently in recess) and that is where it will happen.

          • Colonial Viper 10.1.1.2.2

            The scarecrow, the wheelbarrow, AND the flaming holocaust cloak is going to pay the Labour game players a memorable visit sometime.

    • Someone else is currently ahead at 37%, with Shearer on 21% and Cunliffe on 20%.

      That sums up one of Labour’s biggest problems. But they have to work with who they have. Together preferably.

    • Kotahi Tāne Huna 10.3

      The inclusion of “somebody else” provides people who will never support the Labour Party with a box to tick. Only an idiot troll would suggest it carries any weight or meaning.

    • Socialist Paddy 10.4

      This is part of the problem.  Cunliffe should be financial spokesperson.  No ifs and no buts.

      There are two teams in the Parliamentary Caucus right now the A(BC) team and the other team. The ABC Team have all the best seats, get the best speaking slots and have all the power. The B team are treated like lepers. MPs like Chauvel and Dalziel deserve so much better.

      If Shearer is going to make a go of this he needs to weld the two factions together. Fast. Just like Helen did back in the 1990s. 

      Because if they do not unite successfully, they will surely fail. And the freaking tories will continue to wreck the joint.
       

    • David H 10.5

      But Shearer yesterday hit out at the speculation and said Cunliffe had his full backing.

      There was no suggestion that Cunliffe would be demoted.

      “God no, the guy’s got a huge brain. He’s really across economy policy. Hell no, I want him to be there and want him to keep doing what he’s doing . . . I don’t think there would be anybody else in the caucus who could do it as well as him, to be honest.”

      So if this is all true why then has Cunliffe been gagged and sent overseas all the time? I smell a very rotten duck in back of all this, and the sooner him and the rest of his self serving ilk are gone the better the Labour party will become.

  10. Khandalla Man 11

    Membership.Membership.Membership 

    Call door to door on un-financial members and get then enrolled. VFL automatic bank payment is even better.

    Go to sympathisers, friends, mistresses and enrol them too.  There is going to be a Leadership vote soon. it is now nearly 48 hours since Garner published. And there has been no response from Shearer. He is the poorest advised leader on the planet. 

    This time the membership will have a real say: with or without the proposed new rules.  

    Waiting until February for an election will damage the party more. 

    • King Kong 11.1

      Hold your horses cumsock Wanker Banker

      “But Shearer yesterday hit out at the speculation and said Cunliffe had his full backing.

      There was no suggestion that Cunliffe would be demoted.

      “God no, the guy’s got a huge brain. He’s really across economy policy. Hell no, I want him to be there and want him to keep doing what he’s doing . . . I don’t think there would be anybody else in the caucus who could do it as well as him, to be honest.”

      • Khandalla Man 11.1.1

        I’m delighted that David Shearer made that statement. That, and more, is what we are looking for.  
        It is not in the Dominion Post or Red Alert.  Where do I find it?  

        He should publish that and more onto Red Alert and into an email to all memberes. Urgently. This mess is almost out of control.  He should have addressed it yesterday from Nelson.  

        • the pink postman 11.1.1.1

          This is the real problem we have K.Man .Its almost impossible to get Labour’s message across. The Nat’s have Crosby-Textor and they are amazing at publicity for the Nat’s. Most if not all the news media are in their pocket and Key is well managed by them .They are just on the ball with making sure that Nats havr positive publicity (propogander) but that Labour is run down at every opportunity. The Garner story is pure Crosby-Textor.Like the old cliche they never rest,This is Labour’s big problem and I have no answer. Also remember that the Nat’s affiliation with the USA Republican Party (neo-cons ) also helps their cause.

          • King Kong 11.1.1.1.1

            Is “propogander” when you cant stop looking at front row forwards?

          • gobsmacked 11.1.1.1.2

            Its almost impossible to get Labour’s message across.

            Wrong. It’s never been easier. Not in the MSM to the general public, not on the TV info-tainment news, but to the supporters who want to hear.

            Nobody else controls Labour’s websites, blogs, Twitter accounts, media releases on Scoop, speeches, etc. Labour’s leaders can choose to communicate with us at any time, and within minutes it will be around the internet – including here.

            Shearer’s speech to Grey Power has certainly got across (see other threads, and Gordon Campbell link on this one).

            It’s a total cop-out to blame the medium, when the real problem is the message. And the messenger.

        • seeker 11.1.1.2

          @Khandallah Man 12.10am

          For you. Shearer’s huge endorsement is at the end of the article (of course.)
          http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7443334/Fresh-ructions-hit-Labour

          The link is also on Deuto’s comment 10 above.

  11. bad12 12

    I’m sorry did the leader of the ACT Party David Shearer say something, oooops sorry i meant the leader of the Labour Party, although after Shearers bit of bene bashing the other day is there a difference???…

  12. prism 13

    KM
    Yes. Go Labour. “Waiting until February for an election will damage the party more.” I think that Khandalla Man speaks for a new breed of Labour followers.

    • Colonial Viper 13.1

      Some of the true old breed is going to be some of the new breed methinks. Good thing too.

  13. Michael 14

    Storms will keep raging in Labour’s teacups for as long as the Party allows right-wing media to keep stirring those teacups. IMHO, Labour needs to state clearly what it stands for, what it opposes, and what changes it will make in office if elected. Everything else is a distraction. Again IMHO, Labour cannot do any of this because its Parliamentary wing do not know the answers themselves, probably because they are afraid that the middle classes won’t back them. That fear is misplaced, IMHO, because (a) the middle classes are diminishing in number and purchasing power; and (b) the proletariat (formerly Labour’s base, but abandoned progressively since 1984) are growing in number (although diminishing in purchasing power), as intended by New Right economic “reforms” [sic]. If Labour does not want to re-establish contact, and trust, with its base, someone else will, and that new political grouping will become the popular opposition to NACT. At present, Labour is part of the problem, not the solution, so it does not matter who “leads” [sic] it.

  14. bomber 15

    Having spoken to key people about what is happening, this is my conclusion – http://tumeke.blogspot.co.nz/2012/08/a-tale-of-two-davids-shearer-gets-lost.html

  15. Adrian 16

    I think we have all been sucked in. I think this whole affair is possibly far, far smaller than assumed. But that which is’nt in question is Garner publishing a few snippets of innuendo and bitchiness only days after Labour/Greens are shown to be several points ahead of National and any of its pathetic arselickers.
    Then he leaves the rest to arced-up fruitloops who should just have a nice lie-down

    • gobsmacked 16.1

      Sucked in? Speak for yourself. Some of us have critical faculties.

      A Duncan Garner blog post isn’t the real problem here, and only the wilfully blinkered cannot see that.

      If DG fell under a bus tomorrow (RIP) would Labour’s divisions and incompetence disappear? Does Garner write Shearer’s speeches?

      Read Old Boy’s OP. Please.

  16. Socialist Paddy 17

    Stuff is running a vote on who should be leader of the Labour Party

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/

  17. gobsmacked 18

    Bryce Edwards has a round-up of the blogs …

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10825760

    To those who say this is a “beat-up” – please link to ANYBODY applauding or endorsing recent developments within Labour. It’s not good enough just to say “get in behind” … give us something to get behind. Anything?

    • Peter 18.1

      There isn’t anyone cheering, just possibly resigned acceptance from some when a day goes by without another Shearer gaffe. The man may still have enough honesty and integrity to stand down for the good of the party. Will be interesting to see if Robertson has enough nous to realise he can’t go into the leadership with Jacinda, as she’s too new and hasn’t held a seat. Maybe in the future, but not now.

      So, a Cunliffe-Robertson combo is the best option.

  18. captain hook 19

    beltway bullshit.

  19. outofbed 20

    I feel a new party coming on.

  20. Andrew Mahon 21

    Back to the comment ‘NZers don’t know what real poverty is’. If someone doesn’t have a job and has little hope of getting one they are poor enough for me. Poor enough for a government to step in and make sure they get one if the market can’t. People with democratic values believe in this. Austrian economics may have a different take.

    • prism 21.1

      Andrew Mahon
      What I don’t know about economics fills several libraries and under Austrian I have only heard about, (who got a joint Nobel prize in 1974), Friedrich Hayek so I looked up Austrian economists and got an interesting quote from Wikipedia
      .
      Austrians are generally advocates of laissez-faire policies.[10] The most common economic interventionist regulation Austrians support are regulations to prevent fractional reserve banking.

      Interesting they don’t support fractional reserve banking. Maybe the economics being applied are cherry-picked from all different theories to suit the purposes of the wealthy. If so that would hardly be objective application of economic policy.

      • Draco T Bastard 21.1.1

        The policies that are put in place are neo-liberal/neo-classical which does support, and in fact advocates for, Fractional Reserve Banking. Neo-liberal economics really is a capitalists wet dream, Austrian, not so much but it still holds to the delusional free-market capitalism.

  21. CrosbyTextor 22

    TO: duncangarner@tv3.co.nz

    FROM: H/Q

    RE: Confidential

    Thanks Duncan.

    L & M

  22. Georgecom 23

    I emailed my local Labour MP today, told them that I didn’t think much of the comments to Garner and suggested it was a pretty stupid thing to do. I asked the MP to raise the issue in caucus and state that they have received negative feedback from a local electorate foot slogger who has delivered pamphlets, put up hoardings etc for 6 elections now.

    • Khandalla Man 23.1

      Sweet. The perfectly right thing to do! Go Georgecom.

      I’m going to ask the sweet things in my patch to raise these questions at the next Caucus
      A) does the Leader have confidence in his Economic Development Spokesperson? 
      B) should the New Lynn LEC believe that their local Labour MP has the confidences of the Leader?
      C) does the Causus see the membership as an optional extra? 
       

    • weka 23.2

      What did they say?

      • Georgecom 23.2.1

        The MP was generally in agreement and said they would raise the issue in Caucus. We both agreed the focus should be on good policies that NZ needs and a centre-left government at the next election. Egos and building political careers shoud be checked at the door or exited from palriament along with the MP attached.

  23. Murray Olsen 24

    What on earth is the beltway? I know it’s something in the US and A, but what is it in Aotearoa?

    • Colonial Viper 24.1

      slang for the Wellington downtown political set

      • Pete Sime 24.1.1

        It’s an Americanism. Interstate 495, known as the beltway, encircles Washington D.C. Those who are inside the beltway are political insiders, those outside it are normal people.

  24. gnomic 25

    I see two elephants in the room. The erstwhile party of labour has indeed become a gaggle of gays and self-serving unionists (not quite sure where Damien fits, presumably the minority rightist left-footing cabal?). Moreover the only answer they got is growth, and growth as the answer is pretty well screwed, unless we make the entire country a factory farm and open cast mine with drilling offshore, and fish, baby, fish. Meanwhile Crosby-Textor and Lord Ashcroft are feeding the weasel and wolf their lines based on a shrewd analysis of what the admass has for ideas in their addled noggins. Essentially we the resilient will survive and business as usual will come back soon, meanwhile the value of your house in a nice high decile suburb is rising, trust us, sure can!!! Slightly contradicted by the wolf’s gloomy prognostications about a generation required for recovery from the Great Financial Cockup, but then he needs to say that because of TINA, There Is No Alternative. Austerity rules, OK!

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    National has reluctantly bowed to pressure from unions and adopted Labour’s fair and sensible policy to pay home support workers for the time they spend traveling between clients, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “This decision is long overdue...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Predators on Poverty – Harawira
    “As poverty has ballooned out of control, the Predators on Poverty have emerged to suck the lifeblood from whole families and communities” said MANA Movement leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira. “They are deliberately targeting low-income areas, particularly those...
    Mana | 11-09
  • MANA Movement Policy Launch
    Predators on Poverty (pokie machines, alcohol outlets and loan sharks) 1pm, Thursday 11th September Corner Great South Road and Criterion Street Otahuhu Shopping Centre...
    Mana | 10-09
  • Eliminating Poverty – Sir Edmund Hillary Collegiate, Otara | Internet MAN...
    A campaign to Eliminate Poverty, Feed the Kids, build more houses, and create thousands of new jobs, was outlined by Internet MANA at a public meeting in Otara this evening. When MANA and the Internet Party first sat down to...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Housing in Waiariki – Sykes
    Fact:  Under this National-Maori Party-ACT-United Future Government 61% of Maori in Waiariki do not own their own home and nearly 70% of Maori rentals in Waiariki pay $200 or more per week. “Maori in Waiariki have low rates of home ownership...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Charter school crisis shows time to axe costly experiment
    Dysfunction from day one at a Northland charter school shows it is time to dump this costly and failed experiment by the National-ACT Government, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Te Kura Hourua ki Whangaruru received $27,000 in government funding...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Labour will crack down on loan sharks
    A Labour Government will crack down on predatory loan sharks by making it illegal both to charge exorbitant interest rates and to exploit uninformed borrowers, Labour’s Consumer Affairs Spokesperson Carol Beaumont says. Labour today released its Consumer Affairs policy which...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Let’s do the FEED before the weed
    “Last week I put out a very strongly worded email to my colleagues about an online promotion about cannabis law reform” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira “and I stand by that criticism today.” My concern was...
    Mana | 08-09
  • TE KAEA and NATIVE AFFAIRS live to fight another day
    “I understand that both the chair of the Board of Maori Television, Georgina Te Heuheu, and new CEO, Paora Maxwell, are now saying that my comments this morning about their plans to cut Te Kaea and Native Affairs, were wrong, and that...
    Mana | 08-09
  • How come the PM only pays 2.8% of his income in tax – Harawira
    “Before John Key talks about the piddling tax cuts he plans for low and middle income families today he needs to explain why he only pays 2.8% of his income on tax while a minimum wage worker pays 28% tax,”...
    Mana | 07-09
  • THE DEATH OF INDEPENDENCE FOR MAORI TV
    “If what I’m hearing is true, tomorrow Maori Television Service (MTS) will dump its news programme, Te Kaea, and staff will lose their jobs” said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira “and the Minister of Maori...
    Mana | 07-09
  • Labour recommits to Pike River families
    An incoming Labour-led government will do everything possible to recover the bodies of the Pike River Miners and return them to their families, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “This tragedy and its aftermath has left the families of the 29...
    Labour | 06-09
  • Voting has started and still no tax plan or fiscal budget for voters to see
    "Even though voting for the election has already begun, National still refuses to provide any details of its proposed tax cuts. And Bill English admitted this morning that he won’t provide any specifics until after the election", Labour’s Finance spokesperson...
    Labour | 06-09
  • National’s partners’ tax plans cost at least $42 billion
    If National forms the next government its partners’ tax plans will cost the country at least $42 billion, and maybe as much as $50 billion, wreaking havoc with the books, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National claims to be...
    Labour | 05-09
  • Labour: Providing more opportunities for young Kiwis
    A Labour Government will ensure every young Kiwi under the age of 20 is given the opportunity to be in work, education or training, and plans to develop a conservation apprenticeship scheme to help do that, Labour’s Youth Affairs spokesperson...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Candles out on teachers’ slice of birthday cake
    Today may be Novopay’s second birthday, but there’s little to celebrate, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Novopay has cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars already, and the cost is still climbing....
    Labour | 04-09
  • National’s blatant broadband pork barrelling misses the mark by a country...
    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Voting turnout affected by bad weather?
    . . NZ, Upper Hutt, 20 September –  Cold, wet weather in the Hutt Valley, north of Wellington may be impacting on voter turn-out. A head-count of people visiting the Trentham School Voting Station in Moonshine Rd, Upper Hutt, indicated...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Final total of advance voting
    And the final total for the advance voting was a staggering 717,579 advance votes against 334,558 in 2011       Tonight, I’ll be watching the TV3 election coverage because I could bare Paul Henry’s smugness one inch more than Mike Hosking’s...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Vice article on NZ election
    Here is my Vice article on the NZ election....
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • The attempt to kill off Internet MANA
    It’s the last day of campaigning today and the long list of those attacking Internet MANA got longer yesterday with Winston Peters backing Labour candidate Kelvin Davis against the MANA Movement’s Hone Harawira. Davis is now supported by Labour, National,...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • A final word on the election – it’s now all up to you
    Brothers & Sisters, the fate of Aotearoa is now all in your hands. We here at the Daily Blog have thrown everything we can at this bloody Government and have spent every waking hour of this campaign trying to highlight...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – ...
    I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – but then again, I never could...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why Nati...
    TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why National Party is great...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • REVIEW: Royals of Kihikihi
    What an absolutely stunning show.  I had to ask twice to check I’d heard right that this is the first staged production for Samuel Christopher, who also played a raw, real, but vulnerable, Wolf Royal, home from London for his...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • 800 Cops to detain 15 ‘terrorists’ – why Australia’s hysterical Isl...
    I’m sorry but I can’t take this current Australian terror threat seriously. 800 cops to detain 15 people and arrest one of them? A week after Abbot decides to send in Australian forces to the cluster fuck of Iraq, suddenly...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Unbelievable corruption inside Government to attack Kim Dotcom
    The corruption inside this Government just more and more filthy – we now have an ex-Customs Lawyer quitting  after being told to bury information that could embarrass the Government, specifically to do with Kim Dotcom… Curtis Gregorash said he was told...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Everyone Loves A Win-Win That Keeps G...
      Permit me to quote some figures at you… -68% of New Zealanders think political news on television focuses too much on politicians’ personalities and not enough on real issues. This is the key result of a recent UMR survey commissioned by...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of being the most in demand broadcaster in the country...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: Te Tai Tokerau independent poll (44% Hone-27% Kelvin) vs Maori T...
    The Te Tai Tokerau Maori TV poll on Monday this week painted a bleak picture for Internet MANA supporters, and it’s results have been seized upon by Labour, NZ First and even the Maori Party (who seem set once again...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The time for TPPA weasel words is over
    Almost every day of the election campaign there has been a policy announcement that would potentially run foul of what I understand is currently in the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA):  more constraints on foreign investment or investors … regulation of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • MELTDOWN – Maori Party turns on their own Te Tai Tokerau candidate – ag...
    The tensions are building in Te Tai Tokerau with the Maori Party on the verge of meltdown. Days out from the election, the Maori Party Executive has tried to heavy their own Te Tai Tokerau Electoral Committee and their own candidate, Te Hira Paenga,...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • We Can Change this Government
    We Can Change this Government – Mike Treen at the First Union stop work election meeting...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Election 2014: For and Against
    With the general election tomorrow, we have had a very noisy campaign but little sign that the electorate wishes for a fundamental change of governmental direction. This reflects in part the fact that the economic cycle is close to its decadal...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eye To Eye Uploaded: Martyn ‘Bomber’ Bradbury
    This interview was filmed a couple of weeks ago between Willie Jackson and myself, I was a tad off with my prediction of NZ First....
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The Donghua Liu Affair – The Players Revealed
      . . – Special investigation by Frank Macskasy & ‘Hercules‘ Speculation that the Beehive office of Immigration Minister, Michael Woodhouse, was behind the release of a letter linking Labour leader, David Cunliffe, with controversial Chinese businessman, Donghua Liu, is...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold NZ d...
    It should read ‘never stop spying’. As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold us down the river to the US by allowing the Southern Cross cable to be tapped… The ability for US intelligence agencies...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work
    The final days of the campaign are ticking down and Labour and NZ First are manoeuvring to kill off the Internet MANA Party by both backing Kelvin Davis for Te Tai Tokerau. It’s a risky gambit that they better pray to Christ...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Bill English’s latest insult to beneficiaries – apparently they are lik...
    National’s hatred towards the poor continues unabated as National desperately try to throw raw meat to their reactionary voter base in the hope to inspire enough hate and loathing to win back their redneck voters from the Conservative Party and from...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eminem ain’t happy with John Key
    Eminem ain’t happy with John Key...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Key claims he did not inhale
    Key claims he did not inhale...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Final prediction on election result 2014
    What an election campaign. The character assassination of David Cunliffe kicked things off with the Herald on Sunday falsely claiming $100 00 bottles of wine, $15 000 books and $150 000 in donations  from a donor that turned out to be...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Live blog: Bainamarama takes commanding lead in Fiji elections
      Interview with Repúblika editor Ricardo Morris and Pacific Scoop’s Mads Anneberg. PACIFIC SCOOP TEAM By Ricardo Morris, Mads Anneberg, Alistar Kata and Biutoka Kacimaiwai in Suva WHILE the results are provisional at this stage, it is clear today that...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 5AA Australia: NZ Elections Two Days To Go! + Edward Snowden + Julian Assan...
    Recorded live on 18/09/14 – Captured Live on Ustream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/multimedia-investments-ltd 5AA Australia’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning deliver their weekly bulletin: Across The Ditch. This week, they discuss the latest news as New Zealanders go to the polls on...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What has Colin Craig done for his Press Secretary to quit 2 days before ele...
    This is VERY strange.  Colin Craig’s Press Secretary Rachel McGregor, has quit 2 days before the election, allegedly telling ZB that Colin Craig was a “very manipulative man”. I’ve met Rachel many times in the past as Colin’s Press Secretary, she is...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” – A brief w...
    “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” said Key in the final leaders debate. Problem of course is that the 250 000 – 285 000 children living in poverty can not afford steak, milk, butter, eggs...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • National’s final bash of beneficiaries before the election
    On cue, whenever National feel threatened, they roll out a little bennie bash just to keep their redneck voter base happy. Nothing like a bit of raw meat policy to keep National voters focused on the evil threat solo parents...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • With All Of This In Mind, I Vote
    This is my last blog before the election and I really just want to speak from the heart. Right now in this country it seems to me that a lot of people consider the “essentials” in life to be simply...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Left has to vote strategically this election
    The dedication, loyalty, and tribalism of party politics means that sometimes the left lets itself down by not voting strategically. We all want our favoured party to get maximum votes, naturally, but the winner-takes-all approach doesn’t always suit multi-party left...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Dear NZ – as you enter the polling booth, stand up for your rights
    The last days before a NZ general election are a busy time as politicians make their pitch and party activists prepare to get out the vote. It is sort of weird watching from the distance of Europe the strangest election...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What is Waihopai, John, if it isn’t a facility for “mass surveillance...
    John Key assured us on RNZ’s Nine to Noon programme yesterday that “In terms of the Fives Eyes data bases… yes New Zealand will contribute some information but not mass wholesale surveillance.” How does this square with the operation of the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Mass Surveillance and the Banality of E...
    Renowned journalist and intellectual Hannah Arendt coined the phrase “the banality of evil” to describe the normalisation of genocide in Nazi Germany. I thought of her phrase when I was listening to Glenn Greenwald and other international whistle-blowers talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Election. Down. To. The. Wire
    Funny how last week it was John Key winning by 50%, now it’s neck and neck. I have always believed this election would be down to the wire and it is proving so. The flawed landline opinion polls the mainstream...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 3rd Degree uses Whaleoil for story ideas as if Dirty Politics never happene...
    TV3s 3rd Degrees smear job on Kim Dotcom last night doesn’t bear much repeating. It was pretty pathetic journalism from a team who have brought us some great journalism in the past. It is sad to see 3rd Degree stooping...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Live blog: Bainimarama takes early lead in Fiji’s election
    Pacific Scoop’s Alistar Kata reports from yesterday’s voting. By Alistar Kata of Pacific Scoop in Suva Prime Minister Voreqe Bainimarama took an early lead in provisional results in the Fiji general election last night. With provisional results from 170 out...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Has The NSA Constructed The Perfect PPP?
    Former intelligence analyst and whistleblower, Edward Snowden – speaking live to those gathered at the Auckland Town Hall on Monday September 17, 2014. Investigation by Selwyn Manning. THE PRIME MINISTER JOHN KEY’s admission on Wednesday that whistleblower Edward Snowden “may...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • No way – Key admits Snowden is right
    After claiming there was no middle ground. After claiming there was no mass surveillance. After calling Glenn Greenwald a henchman and a loser. After all the mainstream media pundits screamed at Kim’s decision to take his evidence to Parliamentary Privileges...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Bad luck National
    ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • The incredible changing John Key story on mass spying – why the Moment of...
    While the mainstream media continue to try and make the Moment of Truth about Kim’s last minute decision to prolong his battle against John Key past the election into the Privileges Committee, the reality is that the Moment of Truth...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Themes of the Campaign
    There’s one area of a political campaign that just about everyone, at some point, falls afoul of. The campaign song. I’m not sure quite why it is, but it seems to be almost impossible for political parties to come up...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Denis Tegg – The NSA slides that prove mass surveillance
    The evidence presented by Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden on The Intercept of mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB is undeniable, and can stand on its own. But when you place this fresh evidence in the context of...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland
    The Ukrainian civil war discomforts me. It seems to me the most dangerous political crisis since the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. And it’s because of our unwillingness to examine the issues in a holistic way. We innately prefer to...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man – the relationship intensifies
    John Key’s love affair with the straw man is now a fully-committed relationship. It’s now the first love of his life. Sorry Bronagh. Yesterday I pointed to Key’s constant assurances that there is no mass surveillance of New Zealanders by...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • A brief word on why Wendyl Nissen is a hero
    Wendyl Nissen is a hero. The sleazy black ops attack on her by Slater and Odgers on behalf of Grocery Council chief executive Katherine Rich is sick. All Nissen is doing in her column is point out the filth and...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Eminem sues National Party for unlawful use of ‘Lose yourself’ bhahahah...
    …ahahahahahahahaha. Oh Christ this is hilarious… National Party sued over Eminem copyright infringment US rapper Eminem is suing the National Party for allegedly breaching copyright by using his song Lose Yourself in its campaign advertisements. The Detroit-based publishers of Eminem’s...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Are the Greens about to be snookered by a Labour-NZ First Government?
    I wrote last week that it was smart politics that the Greens pointed out they could work with National, the soft blue vote that’s looking for a home in the wake of Dirty Politics isn’t going to Labour, so the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Daily Election Update #12: NZ First to hold balance of power
    Winston Peters’ NZ First Party will hold the balance of power after tomorrow’s election, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Mr Peters is then expected to back a National-led...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election Day is Time to Refocus on Policies
    Over the course of this election campaign there has been a lot of focus on dirty politics and spying, and not a lot on policy. With election day looming, Gareth Morgan is calling for people to refocus on the issues....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • The Kiwi FM Alternative Election Commentary
    Saturday 20 September from 7pm on 102.2 Auckland, 102.1 Wellington, 102.5 Canterbury, or KiwiFM.co.nz...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Beneficiary Bashing unacceptable
    Kay Brereton of the Beneficiary Advocacy Federation of New Zealand says “ the comment made by Bill English yesterday comparing beneficiaries to crack addicts is shocking and incredibly poorly timed.”...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • UN Experience Beneficial
    Acclaim Otago representatives have just completed their participation at the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disability examination of the New Zealand government in Geneva, Switzerland. "It was an interesting two days which we believe has...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Changing face of NZ should be reflected in newsrooms
    With Fairfax Media’s Journalism Intern search closing on Sunday, Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy is urging aspiring journalists from Maori, Pacific and ethnic communities to apply. The deadline was recently extended to 10pm, Sunday...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • SPCA expresses concern over toxin in waterways
    Ric Odom CEO of Royal NZ SPCA has expressed concern over the toxic poison 1080 entering waterways, but DoC, Council’s and Ministry of Health have colluded to make it legal....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ 2014 Election Index – 13-18 September
    Below is iSentia’s final weekly Election Index, covering the period 13-18 September and showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. The methodology used...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Epsom Candidate (Adam Holland) More Liberal Than ACT
    For the past four years I, like 500,000 other New Zealanders, have been illegally smoking cannabis for medicinal purposes and/or even just for the occasional laugh with friends on the weekend. We don't hurt anybody, we don't cause nuisance, we...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Left Coalition Will Save Dolphins
    A left coalition would safeguard both Māui and Hector’s dolphins, as well as revive our inshore ecosystems. Labour, Internet Mana and the Green Party all have strong policies in place for dolphin protection. The Maori Party, and to a certain...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Waihoroi Shortland: Ngāti Hine is not standing alone
    The Chairman of Te Rūnanga a Iwi o Ngāpuhi, Sonny Tau is blowing smoke worthy of a Dotcom rally with claims that Ngati Hine is standing alone in its opposition to Tūhoronuku says the Chairman of Te Rūnanga o Ngati...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Oceania voices on environment loud and strong
    While money and energy continues to be spent on global talks about climate change, Pacific islanders are scrambling to build sea walls out of sticks, stones, shells and coral, to protect their lands and homes from erosion and rising sea...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunket – Tonight
    No MPs tonight --- the campaign will be over at 9 30. Instead we will look back --- and possibly forward on what we have learned and what might happen. Listener Political Columnist Jane Clifton Editor in Chief, NZ Herald,...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election fails to address youth financial wellbeing
    Young people don’t feel included in New Zealand’s financial success and believe inequality is a problem, according to a new survey conducted by Westpac’s Fin-Ed Centre at Massey University....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Winston’s Waffle doesn’t hide the facts
    The Conservative Party is celebrating the ASA's finding announced today that rejected all but one of the complaints raised against its controversial “Conservatives or Peters” pamphlet. “Despite pages of complaints from Peters legal team the only...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ Independent Coalition looking forward to tomorrow
    “Our team is looking forward to tomorrow. It is a real opportunity to reclaim politics for the people,” said NZ Independent Coalition leader Brendan Horan....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Insights Issue 35/2014 – 19 September 2014
    Insights Issue 35/2014 - 19 September 2014 In This Issue • RMA reform the golden unicorn of policy | Jenesa Jeram...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Special voting arrangements made for NIWA crew
    One of the most unusual polling stations for this year’s general election is in the middle of the ocean miles from land. NIWA’s flagship research vessel Tangaroa, has been doubling as a polling booth for crew and scientists at sea....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Tourism operators urged to vote strategically
    Tourism operators should make sure they know their local candidates’ view on tourism and use their vote to support the country’s second largest export industry, says Chris Roberts, Chief Executive, Tourism Industry Association New Zealand (TIA)....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • WGTN: March for free education
    We are students, university staff, and members of the community. Whichever parties form a government after September 20th, we are demanding an end to corporatisation of education....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Evidence of Corruption a National Scandal
    Internet Party leader Laila Harré will take evidence of corruption to international forums if there is not a full Royal Commission to investigate the growing evidence of the systematic use and abuse of democratic institutions and processes for political...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt continues to throw money at charter school experiment
    Official documents reveal the three primary sector charter schools approved last week will cost $2 million to set up as well as divert another $1.5 million of potential taxpayer investment from local state schools next year....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ACT Final Election Rally
    Elections campaigns are an opportunity for political parties to put candidates and policy to enable voters to choose what sort of New Zealand we want. In this campaign there have been three tests by which you can assess the electoral...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Taxpayers on Hook Again for Solid Energy
    Responding to the Fairfax article that taxpayers are extending another $103 million to keep Solid Energy afloat, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Invermay Petition Tops 10,000 Signatures
    People across New Zealand continue to express their disgust at the downgrading of Invermay, says Dunedin North MP David Clark, as the Save Invermay petition he instigated earlier this year topped the 10,000 signature mark just days before the 2014...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar vows to continue fight for police
    Garth McVicar stated at a public meeting last week that he would fight to retain a 24/7 Police Station in Napier and no reduction in the number of police staff for the Hawkes Bay region, some said he was simply...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Party Vote Our Weapon in Fight Against Government Corruption
    Internet MANA urges New Zealanders to use their party vote to confront corruption in any new government....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Election day is tomorrow – make sure you’re a part of it!
    Tomorrow, Saturday 20 September, is election day, and New Zealanders’ last chance to have a say on who leads the country for the next three years....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Is the Shape of our Government out of the hands of Voters?
    In the last stuff.co.nz / Ipsos Political Poll before Saturdays election, National is down 5.1% to 47.7% and Labour up 3.7% to 26.15%. These results are remarkably similar to the 2011 election where National received 47.3% of the vote and...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Spirit of Suffrage a Call to Action for All Kiwi Women
    Internet MANA is drawing on the courage and integrity of New Zealand women on Suffrage Day – Friday, September, 19 – to encourage them to pay tribute to the spirit of their foremothers who gained women the vote....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Live Election Night Coverage on TV And Online
    Māori Television’s KOWHIRI 2014 – ELECTION SPECIAL kicks off at 7.00pm this Saturday with a five-hour broadcast focusing on the Māori electorates....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Judge’s Decision Disappoints Fish & Game
    Today’s decision to give a Temuka man 100 hours of community service for selling sports fish to the public has disappointed Fish & Game, which believes the sentence handed down was “too lenient and will not go far enough to...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Cutting-Edge Graphics Fire up TV3’s Election Night Coverage
    TV3’s Election Night coverage, hosted by John Campbell, will be enhanced by cutting-edge graphics that will showcase the night’s results....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt rushes to open charter schools in New Year
    The government’s decision to approve four new charter schools last week to open in January next year goes against the Minister of Education’s own advice that the schools ought to have at least a year’s preparation time....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • 7 Days And Jono And Ben at Ten Hijack Election Weekend
    The 7 Days and Jono and Ben at Ten (JABAT) comedians are running their own version of election coverage, with a schedule of entertainment and comedy across TV3, Kiwi FM, the web and social media this Friday and Saturday under...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Fewer Prisoners Equals Less Crime
    In its latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and other Crazy Stuff’,’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html , Rethinking Crime and Punishment urges government to rethink its approach to releasing prisoners. “The public expectation is that the excellent reductions in the crime...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar slams his political opponents
    I want a safe and prosperous society and that can only be achieved if we have strong and vi-brant families – McVicar...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Falling economic growth – wage rises overdue
    “The lower GDP growth in the three months to June is further evidence that growth has peaked. New Zealand’s economy is on the way down to mediocre growth rates,” says CTU economist Bill Rosenberg. “Yet wage rises are still weak...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Get Out and Vote campaign a success
    Tens of thousands of workers from all around New Zealand have embraced the Get Out and Vote campaign and have created their own personalised voting plan, the CTU said today. “With three days of voting left in the 2014 General...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Animal Research Failing – So Do More Animal Research?
    Victoria University of Wellington is about to host a lecture on why the success rates of pharmaceutical development is so low and what can be done about it. The New Zealand Anti-Vivisection Society (NZAVS) welcomes discussion on this important...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ALCP welcomes Prime Minister’s cannabis comments
    Mr Abbott's comments came on the same day as New South Wales and Victoria states announced they would be doing clinical trials of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Conservative Party Press Secretary Resignation
    The Conservative Party is given to understand that this morning Press Secretary, Miss Rachel Macgregor resigned althought no formal advice of this has yet been received....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • By ACT’s logic, Epsom should vote for Conservative Candidate
    “Polling released late in the campaign shows that ACT is a busted flush and that by ACT’s own logic, centre-right Epsom voters should vote for the Conservative candidate”, says Labour candidate for Epsom Michael Wood....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • New online medical system
    Immigration New Zealand (INZ) is seeking registrations of interest for a new onshore panel physician network to support an online immigration health processing system....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Students, You Have a Choice, Vote!
    The New Zealand Union of Students’ Associations (NZUSA) is imploring students to ensure they make their voices heard this election, and join the many thousands who have already heeded the call....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Party vote ACT for three years of stability.
    Voters who are concerned that on the latest polls we may be heading for three years of instability have it in their hands to deliver a decisive result....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Women’s Suffrage Movement – Get Out and Vote!
    Tomorrow, Friday 19th September, MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will cast her vote at 12 noon at the Zen’s Building, Rotorua. This will follow a march through Rotorua that will assemble at 10am at City Focus, Rotorua. The...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • iPredict Daily Update
    David Cunliffe and Labour have made gains over the last 24 hours, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict, but John Key’s National is still strongly expected to lead the next...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Conservative’s Proposal to Abolish Parole Fatally Flawed
    The Conservative Party’s proposal to abolish parole doesn't stack up, however which way you look at it, concludes Kim Workman in Rethinking Crime and Punishment latest blog, ‘Abolishing Parole and Other Crazy Stuff’ at http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/09/krill-and-womble-independent-policy.html...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Special Edition : The letter 18 September 2014
    Dr Jamie Whyte has been giving thoughtful speeches largely unreported. So we thought we would put out an edited version on the speech he gave yesterday. The full speech is on the website....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
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