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Lhaws’ lhabours lhost

Written By: - Date published: 12:14 am, March 4th, 2011 - 100 comments
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Michael Lhaws has done more to worsen ethnic relations in this country than, arguably, anyone else in the past decade. He chose the most racially divided city in the land and cynically exploited those divisions to get the attention his pathetic ego craves. Now, one of his greatest ‘achievements’ has been ruled illegal.

The Gang Patch Law was always a fraud. It didn’t accurately target people wearing patches and it didn’t do anything to discourage people being gang members. But those were never Lhaws’ real objectives. He was only after creating more racial division by dog-whistling (gang members = ‘bloody Maoris’). Same with his campaign over child abuse. More racial division means more votes for the head white racist and more media attention for an empty little man.

Lhaws was truly a terrible mayor. He failed to achieve anything but dragging Whanganui’s name down to his level in the eyes of the rest of the country (honestly, ask someone about Whanganui and ‘racist’ will be one of the first words out of their mouths). The people were getting sick of him and, according to rumour, polling was showing he could lose last year’s mayoral race. Hence, his decision not to run.

Now, the High Court has found that Lhaws’ Gang Patch Law is illegal.

Nice work, Lhaws, you wasted everyone’s time and who knows how much money on a law that didn’t even do what it purported to do, and now judicial resources have had to be wasted getting it overturned. So, you’re having a cry about the courts getting it wrong. Because it’s always someone else at fault when you fuck up, eh Lhaws?

Honestly, what a dick.

100 comments on “Lhaws’ lhabours lhost”

  1. McFlock 1

    10/10 for style, +3million for a good title.

    postscript: ’tis better to be mayor of WHanganui than be MP of wherever?

  2. tc 2

    But at no stage throughout any one of Laws crusades did the MSM call him on being a racist PR seeking media whore in his role as mayor rather than being a constructive civic leader……..which just egged him on. I recall his reaction to being pinged for not having a child restrained being particularly enlightening as to the mans character.

    • ghostwhowalksnz 2.1

      His response was an official complaint about the Police releasing his name.

      In many ways hes our own little tinpot Gaddafi

  3. RedLogix 3

    As Rex Widestrom pointed out in a comment here a while ago (yes I was paying attention Rex).. one of the most fatal political mistakes made in a generation was when Winston Peters chose Lhaws as his closest advisor.

    Many bad things flowed out from that decision.

    • Have an internet gold star, RL :-D

      I think because it heralded the end of my political career, when I talk about the implications people tend to think “oh yeah… for him“. But the way in which Lhaws distorted not only NZF (by loading it with Deborah “The Spy who Hated Me” Morris, Robyn “Which Way’s Paris?” McDonald et al, but by ridding Winston of a whole group of people, of which I was but one, who grounded him and negated his hubris.

      Lhaws, OTOH, gave Winston free rein to covet baubles and arrange dubious donations through secret trusts, because he knew where the real power lay. When he too was removed, Winston was like an over-inflated hot air balloon that lost its final tether.

      A NZF Cabinet consisting of the pre-1996 spokespeople – including Brian Donnelly but also Ross Gluer, Terry Heffernan, myself and others but minus Morris, McDonald, Neil Kirton etc – would most likely have opted for a coalition with Labour, but with a set of demands very different from those of Lhaws and Winston.

      Then there’s the possibility that successfully securing a coalition deal would have seen Mike Moore remain Labour Leader, at least for a few years; history would indeed have changed hugely had Winston not handed Lhaws the entire party and campaign structure prior to the 96 election.

      Whether for the better I have no way of knowing (but instinct tells me yes). But certainly the outcome could not have been worse…

      The saddest thing is, Lhaws will be happy with the carnage he caused. His only desire is to make an impact and thus feed his ego, and it’s easier to destroy than to build.

      • swordfish 3.1.1

        “successfully securing a coalition deal would have seen Mike Moore remain Labour Leader, at least for a few years; history would indeed have changed hugely…”.

        Don’t quite get this, Rex. Didn’t Helen Clark topple Moore immediately after the 1993 General Election, in which case a Labour-NZ First Coalition deal in 1996 would have been a little too late for Moore’s leadership ?

        Or have I missed something, here ?

        Incidently, 30th anniversary of the 1981 Springbok Tour coming up in July. 30 years since Laws led Otago Uni students in SUPPORT of apartheid. Wonder if he’ll be celebrating ?

        • Rex Widerstrom 3.1.1.1

          Gak! Where TF was my brain at when I wrote that? Yes, swordfish, you spotted that *cough* deliberate mistake, cunningly dropped in an otherwise erudite comment in order to check everyone was paying attention :-P

          Moore led the coalition negotiations (along with the late, and much missed, Michael Hirschfeld), and it was these two to whom I provided strategic advice, which was why my fantasising ran off track.

          But if you want to see fantasy in action (he says, desperately deflecting) his Wikipedia entry mentions his WTO Director-Generalship and adds “Constituency Eden, Christchurch North”. I’m sure the residents that borough, especially at this time, will be impressed to know they had their very own representative at the WTO :-)

      • Colonial Viper 3.1.2

        but with a set of demands very different from those of Lhaws and Winston.

        You couldn’t gift us with a couple of speculative “for instance”s could you Rex? You know just as a bit of wistful political porn?

        • Rex Widerstrom 3.1.2.1

          I try to avoid wallowing in the dregs of my political career unless there’s whisky involved. Or at least Pinot. Are you buying, CV? :-P

          I know Brian Donnelly had some incredibly good, and genuinely unique, ideas about poverty in the far north (from whence he came) and in particularly about raising educational outcomes but because he was more than capable of devising and expressing these I wasn’t involved at a level of detail that enable me to recall them now. I was particularly surprised to see none of that made it through into the coalition agreement, though that is testament to Lhaws’ influence since Winston genuinely admired and respected Brian.

          The ones in which I was involved and thus have a murky recollection, were:

          - Binding Citizens Initiated Referenda (in accordance with the NZ First Fundamental Principle that “All policies not contained in the party manifesto, where no national emergency clearly exists, will first be referred to the electorate for a mandate”).

          - Parliamentary Reform, including the establishment of an independent Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards based, at least initially, on the UK model at the time. (I say “at the time” because it’s since had its teeth extracted).

          - An increase in the number of refugees accepted and a raising of the bar for migrants in the “business” category to ensure they were intending to genuinely make a life in NZ and not use it simply as a means to a passport and a home in the Grammar zone for their children.

          - An independent anticorruption commission to regulate other aspects of society, including business and government departments.

          - Measures around real programs to get people off welfare and into work, with a focus on individual tailoring of solutions and not some “one size fits all” “work test”. That would include measures to promote entrepreneurship not just “getting a job”, including adult education and some sort of microfinance.

          - Insisting on processing NZ’s raw materials onshore, and adding maximum value to anything exported before it left NZ.

          - Much greater involvement, and partnership, with Pacific nations.

          There was heaps more, but I’ve had only one coffee so far so that’s about as much as I can wring out of a caffeine deprived brain.

  4. Bored 4

    To quote the Bard..“Out, out, brief candle! Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!”

    There was never much real to say about this vapid non entity.

  5. ghostwhowalksnz 5

    His company offices are in an understrength old building on soft ground right by the river bank……..

    • Don’t even go there ghostwhowalksnz; I get where you are coming from, but one thing that Wanganui does NOT need is an earthquake!

      • lprent 5.1.1

        Reminds me. I eventually got around to doing a read of your site this week and saw this post. and meant to point the following out.

        Oh you of little faith. We tend to give people time to learn, get upset at being told to learn and leave on their own, or to eventually get the chop. He’d already been warned several times for various infractions but didn’t seem to learn. He eventually ran out of our tolerance. See this and then this

        In this case he probably got more rope than usual because I do the bulk of the moderation and was somewhat more reluctant to warn or sanction because my circumstances made my judgement a bit suspect. I was even being pretty damn slow moderating because of a quite different sleep pattern. Which is why moderation was delayed as you pointed out in your post. Even at the best of time it can be several hours between sweeps by someone

        But eventually Irish got a wee bit pissed off and handed out several educational experiences after constraining himself for some time.

        Moderating on a site with as many comments as this one gets is more of deliberate process rather than the type of knee-jerk reaction you seem to prefer. Of course we could allow more of the knee jerk reaction, but I seem to remember that you didn’t like it when it happened to you.

        • Inventory2 5.1.1.1

          Appreciate your comments Lprent; hope too that you are on the mend

          • lprent 5.1.1.1.1

            Been back at work for several weeks. In fact after just a few days out of hospital. I was pretty useless for the first week or so. But programming is not a high risk occupation for a newly embedded stent. Being around people has stopped Lyn from worrying about leaving me at home alone (and organizing innumerable visitors). She literally stopped me from dying within the few minutes that I had left amongst the living and has been somewhat shocked ever since.

            • RedLogix 5.1.1.1.1.1

              Lynn,

              Sorry I missed all this. Oddly enough I was in Auckland Hospital at that period looking after my own father.

              Folk who want to grumble about moderation really need to dismount high horse. There really are only three or four of us doing it at any one time, there is no ‘roster’ so our presence or not is entirely random.

              It’s a tricky business getting the tone and balance right between under and over moderation. If left to my own devices I’d probably over-moderate, so I tend to compensate by being conciously light-handed. (This may cause some folks a mild snorting moment….). And while I try to keep the site policy uppermost in mind, lots of things come down to a personal call.

              But without doubt the leadership … and the vast bulk of the work… has fallen on Lynn’s already burdened shoulders. The Standard is what it is because of him.

              • Hear, hear.

                When he was hit by his heart problems I suggested, only partly in jest, he needed to “Tron” himself so he could roam within the circuitry of The Standard’s servers, fighting trolls.

                With due respect to everyone else, who provide the icing on the cake, there wouldn’t be a cake without him.

  6. tsmithfield 6

    The court decision wasn’t quite that emphatic. From the judge:

    “However, he said a bylaw which more closely defined specified places could well be legal.”

    • Eddie 6.1

      the by-law is illegal. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible to write a legal one, of course not. But I bet the new council doesn’t.

      • toad 6.1.1

        If you read the judgment, it appears (at para 160) that Lhaws misled the Council into the misunderstanding that it did not have to take the provisions of the NZ Bill of Rights Act into account in enacting the bylaw.

    • Tiger Mountain 6.2

      “could well be legal” is different from “would be legal” will the judges apparent prompt be followed up by the new council?

      Congrats to the Angels member and lawyer for now then. The mascaraed mayor was always way out of order on this one.

    • The Voice of Reason 6.3

      You make a good point, TS. Funnily enough, the council where told at the time that a sweeping ban would not be legal and that specific exclusions should be used. That is, defined streets, parks and public places. That good advice was ignored.

      For what it’s worth, the photo on the post makes Laws look far too chipper. I was shopping in a Whangaz supermarket earlier this week and saw him pushing a trolley about. He looked ten years older than the photo suggests. White straggly hair and unhealthily thin. Nobody bothered to say gidday or even make eye contact with him in the ten minutes or so we were in the same aisles. I probably should have felt sorry for him, but fuck it, the man’s a fucken disgrace and who am I to get in the way of karma?

      • Tiger Mountain 6.3.1

        “I probably should have felt sorry for him”, see just that little flash of humanity marks out a leftie.

        I still have an email from Mr Laws with mayoral banner and all. I wrote a serious piece to him about the spelling of the city and his succinct reply was “go back to smoking your weed loser” signed M. Laws. Sure I put my Far North address on the message and cannabis is not unknown in these parts, but I don’t use it, so his reply was not appreciated. He was rather rude to a bunch of school kids that wrote to him too I recall.

  7. Title and photo of the year!

    Lhaws truely is a whanker.

  8. Afewknowthetruth 8

    My experience of Laws led me to the conclusion he is a psychotic sociopath.

  9. fizzleplug 9

    Wanganui was terrible before he was mayor, and hasn’t changed.

  10. Lanthanide 10

    “it didn’t do anything to discourage people being gang members.”

    Laws was on National Radio this morning saying that actually it has reduced gang membership by 15% because there is much less impetus to join the gang.

    Do you have any actual proof that it hasn’t affected gang membership?

    • Bright Red 10.1

      surely you’re not asking for someone to prove a negative. You’re meant to be the most logical person here but next you’ll be demanding proof there isn’t a teapot in orbit between Earth and Mars.

      Hows about Lhaws present the evidence that he is basing his positive assertion on and we can then either accpe that evidence as valid or not.

      • Lanthanide 10.1.1

        No, it’s not asking to prove a negative. Clearly if there are 85 gang members now, when there used to be 100, then the gang membership rate has dropped by 15% as claimed.

        And yes, I would like Laws to present his evidence, but as I don’t have direct access to ask him to do so, I’d like to see what evidence Eddie used to declare that it has made no impact on gang membership. It certainly seems plausible that such a law could impact on gang membership, so to just rule it out as impossible on your own assumptions (when you’re already shown as biased against the messenger) doesn’t really seem fair.

        Also, I don’t claim myself to be the most logical person here.

        Finally, the term “can’t prove a negative” doesn’t actually mean much:
        http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/theory.html
        http://departments.bloomu.edu/philosophy/pages/content/hales/articles/proveanegative.html

        Just results from a quick google query. You’re probably already generally aware of the meaning of this (we could actually examine every instance of space in the orbits between Earth and Mars and therefore determine that there is no teapot, it’s just expensive and time consuming so we don’t do it), but using that phrase doesn’t really help the debate.

      • Bill 10.1.2

        next you’ll be demanding proof there isn’t a teapot in orbit between Earth and Mars

        But there is!

        Flying teapot flown by the pixies from the planet Gong, mate. Jeez. Where you been?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FisaVM93bdg&feature=related

    • The Voice of Reason 10.2

      I heard that, too, Lanth. What made me laugh was him claiming he had empirical, not anecdotal, evidence and then said it came from a Police report on changes since the law came in. Now, unless the Mob are regularly handing over their membership lists to Inspector Knacker, that report would be based on anecdotal evidence, surely?

      • Lanthanide 10.2.1

        I was half asleep at the time so don’t really remember much from it, but he gave a list of 4 things that had been a result of the law, and that’s the only one I can remember at the time. Didn’t recall that he said he had seen a police report on it.

        You are of course correct, the police report will most likely be based on anecdote, and the plural of anecdote is not data.

  11. chris 11

    Gang patch does not = “bloody maoris” in the slightest.

    Gangs are scum, regardless of their race.

    I support banning them in every shape and form. But hey, if you are happy having them in your main street stand back and do nothing. oh wait – you are.

    • Bright Red 11.1

      “if you are happy having them in your main street stand back and do nothing. oh wait – you are.”

      It’s not a matter of ‘doing nothing’. You’re falling into the trap of thinking that doing ‘something’ is always better than doing ‘nothing’. Lhaws did ‘something’ but it acheived nothing, which is worse than simply doing nothing because it’s a waste of recourses.

      “Gang patch does not = “bloody maoris” in the slightest.”

      yes, it does. It’s called dogwhistling and we all know it.

    • toad 11.2

      Personally, I would rather see them patched up so I know who it is I am dealing with.

      As for “scum”, I would put Lhaws in that category. A nasty self-opiniated little bigot who thinks he has the right to say whatever derogatory things he likes about groups or individuals, however unsupported by the evidence, while at the same time advocating removing others’ freedom of expression.

    • The Voice of Reason 11.3

      Sorry to see you are so upset, Chris. Like you, I’d like to see an end to gangs, but this stupid law did nothing to bring that about. As Laws said this morning it made ‘Wanganui people feel safer’. Feel safer, not actually be safer.

      It was just populist grandstanding, though given his shellacking at the last election, it turned out to be not so popular anyway.

      • Lanthanide 11.3.1

        Given that feeling in danger is hyped up by the media and often imaginary and that feeling in danger can actually have negative psychological impacts on a person (in general society it can even have wide economic and social effects – people choosing not to live in “the bad area of town” etc), actually improving people’s perception of safety without actually improving their safety isn’t something to write off as being a waste of time.

        • Bright Red 11.3.1.1

          given he had done so much to worsen people’s perception of their safety, at best you would call it a draw.

          In reality, I think the gang patch law would have worsened perceptions of safety. I think Whanganui and, because of the the song and dnace Lhaws made over this law, I think gangs and crime, and fuckwit former mayors.

          • Lanthanide 11.3.1.1.1

            True, a lot of the perception could’ve be a result of his hype.

            There’s also a matter of local perception here, though. People in the town might consider it safer, whereas people outside of the town (like yourself, presumably) might now think the town really had a massive gang problem and is only barely under control thanks to the draconian law.

            • Drakula 11.3.1.1.1.1

              I see it the same way as Toad; if the gangs are wearing patches they are visable, we know where they are and who they are.

              But there are gangsters who don’t wear patches, no they wear grey suites with a little masquara and seek to deny citizens (including gangs) freedom of speech , freedom of movement and freedom of association that is a contradiction to the NZ Bill of Rights.

              When that by-law was passed by the whanganui council everyone should have worn a patch in protest.

              I was a bit saddened by the apathy there!

              • toad

                @Drakula 18:43 pm

                I see it the same way as Toad; if the gangs are wearing patches they are visable, we know where they are and who they are.

                But there are gangsters who don’t wear patches, no they wear grey suites with a little masquara…

                Yep, the uniform of the enemy, Drak!

    • Richard 11.4

      Gangs are scum, regardless of their race.

      Rubbish.

      Some gang members are scum, but so are some, say, police officers. Doesn’t mean we should ban the police.

      • Lanthanide 11.4.1

        A higher proportion of gang members are ‘scum’ than members of almost any other organisation you can think of.

        Depends on your definition of ‘scum’, but I’d also suggest the average level of ‘scumminess’ of gang members is higher than other organisations, too.

        • Colonial Viper 11.4.1.1

          Wow…didn’t know that you had to perpetrate an act of extreme violence against a random innocent individual to earn your badge in the police, Richard.

          • Richard 11.4.1.1.1

            But it’s the criminal acts that are the problem, not being a member of a gang as such.

            Wearing a silly vest is not a crime.

            • Colonial Viper 11.4.1.1.1.1

              And the 40% of those in prison who are gang members or gang associates?

              But it’s the criminal acts that are the problem, not being a member of a gang as such.

              Sure, if you ignore the psychosocial drivers for crime you might think that way.

        • Richard 11.4.1.2

          A higher proportion of gang members are ‘scum’ than members of almost any other organisation

          Let’s also outlaw freemasons, Jews, gypsies and homosexuals.

          They are also scummy deviants who are responsible for a high proportion of social problems.

          • higherstandard 11.4.1.2.1

            “Let’s also outlaw freemasons, Jews, gypsies and homosexuals.

            They are also scummy deviants who are responsible for a high proportion of social problems.”

            WTF – plus have you got any links to support your bigotry ?

            [lprent: Umm. Some of the comments in these threads are getting a bit turgid. I'll let it ride for the moment as being relevant to the Lhaws debate. But if it goes too far....
            Note that this is not addressed at toad or HS. ]

          • Francesca 11.4.1.2.2

            Richard – you are an ignorant, disgusting Nazi bigot! People like you would have collaborated with the Gestapo!

            I thought you might like to know that around 22% of all Nobel Prize winners (1901-2010) are Jewish individuals. The facts speak for themselves. Jews more than punch above their weight in almost all educational, cultural and scientific endeavours.

            Here is some bedtime reading for you: http://www.jinfo.org/

            Why the hell are you so threatened by people who have no interest in your preferred lifestyle whatsoever? Judging by your comments, that probably involves reading Aryan literature and masturbating over your own reflection.

        • pollywog 11.4.1.3

          i reckon a wunch of bankers could give them a run for their money

    • I support banning them in every shape and form.

      Ahhhh to reside in Lhaws world where, with a single wave of his spindly little wrist, our hero can “ban” something which offends him.

      If there was a switch I could pull that would cause gangs to cease to exist I would pull it. But of course there isn’t, and actually dealing with the problem requires some thought and effort and even research, none of which goes down well on talkback radio.

      Some research has looked at the concept of “resilience” in illegal organisations. We’re familiar with the idea that legitimate organisation don’t simply fold up their tent and cease to exist at the first sign of trouble but we forget that there are, for these purposes, no differences between a legal and an illegal organisation.

      The researchers concluded that:

      …a resilience perspective confirms the findings of a number of gang researchers (see Klein and Maxson, 2006; Decker et al., 2008) that interventions risk having unintended consequences. Rather than decrease an organization’s resilience, law enforcement action might stimulate an organizational adaptation that is more resilient and perhaps more harmful. Particularly unstable organizations such as gangs, for example, may ‘robustly transform’ or ‘tip’ into a new stability domain, altering their character, objectives, ideology or activities. An assessment of this risk can only be made on the basis of the most current intelligence available. In some instances, it may be wiser not to intervene. [my emphasis]

      If an underground world of more serious crime than was evident pre-patch ban is unearthed in Wanganui in a few years, where will Lhaws be then? Manning up to take the blame? Or safely barricaded in his talback studio shrieking about how he’s warned us of the danger of these “bloody Maoris gangs”…?

  12. William Joyce 12

    Did I not get the memo?
    Obviously there is secret knowledge that “Laws is a Racist” that I have not been privy to.
    While I do not agree with all that he has said over the years, I have always found that he made his case in a reasoned way without the invective you would expect from a racist. Then again, maybe he is more clever and duplicitous than I thought.
    To oppose his ideas is one thing to assume the darkest of motives is another.
    What evidence is there that he is motivated by race hatred?

    • The Voice of Reason 12.1

      I’d say referring to the recently deceased King of Tonga as a ‘fat, brown slug’ counts as evidence, William.

      • Lanthanide 12.1.1

        Wasn’t that in the wake of Paul Henry’s breakdown? Given the timing, it seemed like laws was doing it deliberately to get attention and say “hey, I’m racist too!”

        captcha: warning

        • toad 12.1.1.1

          No, that was these comments:

          “That reminds me of Anand Satyanand, but Anand Satyanand could never move that quickly. He is a very large, fat man,” he said.

          “I don’t know why but just on an Indian it seems slightly incongruous.

          “I mean, we don’t all expect Indians to be begging on the streets of New Delhi, but it’s like Anand discovered the buffet table at, like, 20 and he’s never really left it.”

          The King of Tonga one was earlier.

          Both were racist.

          • William Joyce 12.1.1.1.1

            Abusive, rude, fatist, trying to appear funny by running down someone else, being vile and a total git – yes.
            But you still have not given me evidence of racism.
            Again, you are inferring motivation without giving the evidence.
            It is a specific charge that requires a specific example of misconduct.

            • The Voice of Reason 12.1.1.1.1.1

              Did you miss my comment, Wiiliam?

              “Fat, brown slug”

              Racist.

      • William Joyce 12.1.2

        No – I got it. It just lacks evidence.
        I could say Brownlee is a fat, white slug. It’s descriptive but not racist?

        • The Voice of Reason 12.1.2.1

          No, that would be racist, too, William. If you identify someone by their skin colour in a perjorative way, that is indeed racist.

        • toad 12.1.2.2

          …”white motherfuckers” okay too by you William?

          Somehow, I suspect not.

          [lprent: Umm. Some of the comments in these threads are getting a bit turgid. I'll let it ride for the moment as being relevant to the Lhaws debate. But if it goes too far....
          Note that this is not addressed at toad or HS. ]

          • William Joyce 12.1.2.2.1

            The white mo-fo comment was intended to infer something disparaging about a people group.
            Also context lends weight to meaning.

            You would have to show that Laws was suggesting something
            - to be intrinsic to Tongans as a people group (ie. determined by race)
            - that his race was therefore superior to Tongans
            - that the King, because he was Tongan, was therefore racially determined to be inferior as a person.

            None of those things happened.

            He made insulting comments about a person who just happened to be Tongan. He didn’t insult someone because he was Tongan. A subtle but important difference.

            • The Voice of Reason 12.1.2.2.1.1

              No difference at all, William, because he didn’t say fat Tongan slug, he said fat brown slug. The comment was racist. Laws is a racist. You can dissemble all you want, but nothing can change the facts.

              • William Joyce

                Obviously reiteration by either of us is pointless – it’s not going to lead to agreement.
                Next subject :-)

      • Or walking into the NZ First Parliamentary office after Winston had ceded him total control and saying there were “too many brown faces” to be seen (by the public), relegating the Maori admin / reception person to a back room and insisting a Pakeha Senior Private Secretary sit at reception, thus violating both their terms of employment and insulting their dignity.

    • Colonial Viper 12.2

      Seems like you are well out of the loop, Joyce.

    • Morrissey 12.3

      That Laws is a racist is not “secret knowledge”. Did you not listen to him during the first few days of 2009, when he devoted his show to cheering on the Israeli massacre in Gaza? Day after day, he sneered at the idea that anyone should have any concern for the women and children and elderly of Gaza, and he claimed, in apparent high seriousness, that “the Palestinians deserve everything they get, and they are all terrorists.”

      His comments were the verbal equivalent of the white phosphorus bombs the Israelis dropped on the captive civilians. Laws displayed not the slightest ability to make his case “in a reasoned way without the invective you would expect from a racist”.

      If cheering on the mass killing of captive civilians is not “race hatred”, then that term has no meaning.

      • William Joyce 12.3.1

        Pointing to him supporting the bombing of civilians tells me nothing about his concepts of race. It tells me he supports the murder of the innocent people in a certain geographically determined nation/state/province as a valid means of retaliation.
        The fact that could be of the same race/people group seems incidental.
        This quote tells me nothing about his views on race.
        Does he hate Arabs? Does he hate people with dark skins? Is he opposed all heathens in hit countries? Does he stand in the bath waving the union flag singing Jerusalem?
        He may well hold those views but you haven’t proved it.

        Educate me.

        • Colonial Viper 12.3.1.1

          I love how you want documentary proof of shit that is virtually impossible to prove. Just to slow down the discussion.

          You might as well ask us to provide evidence that Lhaws really likes chocolate sundaes, and not just appreciates them.

          Daft.

          Does he hate Arabs? Does he hate people with dark skins? Is he opposed all heathens in hit countries? Does he stand in the bath waving the union flag singing Jerusalem?

          Only one way to find out this level of detail, and that’s to ask him. Of course, he’ll lie (or obfuscate) whichever way so again, what’s the point?

          • William Joyce 12.3.1.1.1

            ….because of the soft ground of evidence you speak of, people need to tread carefully and speak less emphatically. The tone of the original article was quite scathing and nobody was stumping up with the goods. The term racist is so loaded and so often used lazily by people who want to label someone and then engage in knee jerk reactions.
            You do raise a good point about the quality of evidence that can be expected but it would be good if people spent more time in analysis rather than reaction.

            • Colonial Viper 12.3.1.1.1.1

              Now you’re positioning yourself as the voice of moderation, and editorial fairness?

              Oh frak off before I choke.

              • William Joyce

                I have never tried to be otherwise. Rather, I have spent more time trying to correct the knee-jerk reactions and assumptions made by others who assumed a range of things that weren’t true or relevant.
                Are you wanting this to be a forum where people can make assertions without evidence and when someone comes into a particular debate, ignorant of the background as I was, and wants to know why people hold that attitude you treat it like “It’s open season folks – the anti-christ with the unfortunate name has entered the debate!”
                Yikes!

                “Oh frak off before I choke.” – really? Must be a overly sensitive gag response – I’d get that looked at. One day it could lead you to choking on your own words.

                • The Voice of Reason

                  Oh, William, it was really nothing …

                  It’s not ‘an unfortunate name’ dude, it took thought and action. You deliberately chose it using your own free will then you typed it into the little box. And you only use the handle “William Joyce” here at the Standard, which shows further deliberation. You’ve been called on it and, frankly, I think you should retire it and just use what ever name you use when you post on Whale or Stormfront or where ever it you usually go to get your jollies.

                  [lprent: getting close to speculating on identities. ]

                  • William Joyce

                    Obviously your handle has an equal amount of energy, “thought and action” put into it and like mine, you obviously intended The Voice of Reason to be ironic.

                    Oh, as for posting under another name elsewhere – fair cop, you got me, I’m a cleverly disguised member of the vast right wing conspiracy.

                    Be careful tonight – I may be hiding under you bed.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      I’m a cleverly disguised member of the vast right wing conspiracy.

                      For fraks sake get off it.

                      It’s not a “conspiracy”, and I will tell you why. Because the vast Right Wing plan is bloody obvious and well known, it has been consistent in it’s objectives for decades even as its operational emphasis has adapted over time.

                      Transfer societal wealth upwards and secure the privilege of an elite aristocratic class at any cost to the common good.

                      Sheeeesh its not rocket science

        • Morrissey 12.3.1.2

          In his anxiety to support the vicious radio bully Michael Laws, our friend Lord Haw Haw has made some disturbing statements…
          1.) “…supporting the bombing of civilians tells me nothing about his concepts of race”
          Well, yes it does, when this support is expressed in the same kind of hate-filled racially charged rhetoric that Alan Jones and John Laws inflict on their listeners in Australia.

          2.) “…the murder of the innocent people…as a valid means of retaliation”
          By the way you’ve written this, it seems you agree with those crimes. Please say it ain’t so, Joyce.

          3.)“Does he hate Arabs?”
          Judging by his violent, race-baiting rhetoric, both on air and in his ghastly Sunday Star-Times column, yes, Michael Laws hates Arabs. Your strategy of demanding proof of the blindingly obvious raises an obvious question: how many examples of a radio broadcaster exhorting a foreign power to destroy a captive Arab population would you need before you were convinced that he hated Arabs?

          4.) “Does he hate people with dark skins?”
          He hates people with white skins too. The people of Gaza look just like their Israeli oppressors. It’s not “race” per se that motivates the hatred of people like Michael Laws, it’s politics, viz. the politics of the extreme right.

          5.) He may well hold those views but you haven’t proved it.
          I think it’s obvious to anyone who cares to look at the facts that I have indeed proved Michael Laws is a brutal and unabashed supporter of the cruelest and most inhuman treatment of innocent people. Does that make him a “racist”? Well, that’s debatable, I guess, but one thing is almost certain: he’s a hateful, condescending, and poorly informed broadcaster, and what he says should be scrutinized and contested.

      • William Joyce 12.3.2

        Do you have a reference for the “the Palestinians deserve everything they get, and they are all terrorists.” quote?

      • William Joyce 12.3.3

        Morrissey – do you have a reference for the “the Palestinians deserve everything they get, and they are all terrorists.” quote?

        [lprent: normally I'd be watching with interest to see the link appear. But radio talkback doesn't usually archive anything on the net. I'll not going to insist on substantiation for that one. ]

        • Morrissey 12.3.3.1

          He said those very words, and variations thereof, every day during January 2009. He was not the only one on Radio Live to speak like that, of course: James Coleman was equally vicious, and just as lamentably ignorant.

          • William Joyce 12.3.3.1.1

            I’ll take your word for it. Not having heard it I am in no place to judge but it would have been nice to have a quote.

            • Morrissey 12.3.3.1.1.1

              1.) “I’ll take your word for it.” Thanks for the vote of confidence. I assure you that is a precise transcript of what Laws said on one occasion. I wrote it down. He repeated the message, in pretty much the same words, every day he was on air in January 2009.

              2.) “…it would have been nice to have a quote.”
              That is the quote. Verbatim.

    • Mutante 12.4

      Mr. Joyce,

      What else is markedly different about the parallel universe you come from?

  13. chris 13

    ““Gang patch does not = “bloody maoris” in the slightest.”

    yes, it does. It’s called dogwhistling and we all know it.”

    if you have that racist view then that’s up to you – bit dont go putting your slant on me because we dont “all know it” – I know I dont have that view. Plenty of scum who are white gang members also.

  14. Laws claimed that his bylaw reduced gang numbers.Now that his bylaw has been turfed out, will those numbers return to what they were – rocket up even?
    Mr Laws?

    (anti-spam word: possible)

  15. randal 15

    hey what about the dialectic dudes.
    you know.
    thesis.antithesis.synthesis.
    and I dont like sweepeing things under the carpet.
    its better to lance a boil than to see it fester.
    especially under a large weight of denial.

  16. Tom Barker 16

    “This quote tells me nothing about his views on race.
    Does he hate Arabs? Does he hate people with dark skins? Is he opposed all heathens in hit countries? Does he stand in the bath waving the union flag singing Jerusalem?”

    What about your own views on race, Mr Joyce? Did you adopt the nom de plume “William Joyce” out of admiration for the WW2 fascist propagandist know as Lord Haw Haw, or is that a coincidence?

    • William Joyce 16.1

      Tom, Tom, Tom *sigh*
      Play the ball, not the player.
      What have my racial views got anything to do with it?
      My arguments should stand or fall on how sound they are. Not on any guesses you make about my attitude based upon such flimsy evidence as my supposed non de plume.
      What if William Joyce was a name given to me at birth? Are you therefore saying that the circumstances of my birth are an indicator of what views I hold?
      Seems I have heard that sort of argument before – oh that’s right….from racists.

      If you have a counter argument that can withstand scrutiny then put it up.

      • The Voice of Reason 16.1.1

        I suspect your racial views are why you are defending Laws, William. Why else would you be so exercised about it? Certainly, it’s not because your argument stands up to any scrutiny.

        How about you confirm or deny Tom’s suggestion? Is William Joyce your name because of the fascist connection or not?

        • William Joyce 16.1.1.1

          To the Voice of Reason et al
          You said “suspect your racial views are why you are defending Laws”. When two people can’t reach an agreement it must be because the other person is evil?
          It takes imagination to allow for other possibilities. (and there are!)

          Could it be that I just wanted people to elaborate on why they thought Laws was racist and was not satisfied with the level of evidence presented.
          Isn’t not an unreasonable expectation.
          Or, god forbid, this becomes a forum of like minded people who all pat themselves on the back for holding the same views, maintaining the group-thought and assume evil of anyone who disagrees with them.

          As for answering the William Joyce question – that would be too easy. Labels can be useful short cuts to identification but they can also be excuses to get involved in knee-jerk reactions instead of engaging in some real thinking and dialogue.

          As for being “so exercised about it” – did you ever think that it might be that it’s just a slow day at my end and I am engaged about a dialogue on this. Hence the frequency and number of posts. Eventually, once everyone will have staked out their positions and there will either be synthesis or agreement or we will all move on to more important things.

          I apologise if the tone of my posts has anyone all “riled-up” – I have tried to be as fair as possible.

          captcha : campaigns – not really, just a bit of two an fro

      • mcflock 16.1.2

        Lolz.

        Can you really not see why something like “the Palestinians deserve everything they get, and they are all terrorists.” might be regarded as racist?

        • William Joyce 16.1.2.1

          Yes, I think I got too engaged in challenging the other, poor, evidence presented that I missed this detail. Thanks, mcflock and the original poster. This is a smoking gun.
          He is, as you point out, attributing pejorative qualities to a people group and generalising the wrongdoing of some into an intrinsic racial quality and then advocating the eradication of that group.
          I apologise for not seeing it earlier and now accept he is not above making racist comments.
          I would like to see a trend of comments before I go as far labelling him racist.

          • McFlock 16.1.2.1.1

            The attitude that to be Indian and overweight is “incongruous” seems to me to also be a a racially-based attitude.

            That’s 2. I also think the “bloated, brown slug” comment was a bit off.

            How many do you want before you declare a trend??

      • Colonial Viper 16.1.3

        Play the ball, not the player.

        Ironically Joyce, racism is all about playing the player, as I’m sure you know.

        • North 16.1.3.1

          I wouldn’t worry about Joyce and his LuvaLaws carry on…….some people are so intellectually dishonest that they need DNA proof that Laws is a racist before they’ll acknowledge.

          Which means they probably actually support his vile racism.

  17. chris73 17

    In an interview with the current mayor i heard on the radio today she reckoned the public supported it and that the police believed it had contributed to lower crime rates

    • toad 17.1

      And does that give reason to deny the basic human right of freedom of expression?

      Like the homophobic bigots who protest against gays at military funerals in Kansas, and like the arch-bigot Lhaws himself, who uses hate-speech all the time – the law should not interfere. Let the people deal with those issues through democratic debate.

      That right should be denied by the law only in the most extreme of circumstances (such as incitement to genocide or violence against a particular group).

      • Zorr 17.1.1

        Ban Lhaws?

        He is shown to exercise hate speech against minorities. Maybe he needs to be legislated against personally? “As per subsection 3.1, if your name is Michael Laws you may not attempt to publish or broadcast any opinion you hold as it has preemptively been determined as full of shit”

        ^_^

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    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • Labour will facilitate regional Māori economic development agencies
    The next Labour Government will facilitate the creation of regional Māori economic development groups lead by iwi and hapū to work in partnership with business and public agencies as part of its Māori Development policy. “Labour is committed to working towards...
    Labour | 16-08
  • PRIME MINISTER’S DENIAL AT ODDS WITH NATIONAL PARTY STATEMENT
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has today released an email from the General Manager of the National Party that directly contradicts recent statements from the Prime Minister in relation to the 2011 breaches of Labour Party website databases. In his stand-up...
    Labour | 16-08
  • Labour committed to a healthier NZ for all
    A Labour Government will shift the focus of the health system from narrow targets and short term thinking to make public health and prevention a priority, Labour’s health spokesperson Annette King says. Releasing Labour’s full Health policy today she said...
    Labour | 15-08
  • Time Key took responsibility for Collins
    It is well past time for John Key to take some responsibility for the misuse of power and information by his Minister Judith Collins, and follow through on his last warning to her, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “The evidence released...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Dear John, time to answer a few questions… – Harawira
    “When Cameron Slater says about Kim Dotcom ‘I have lots on him…death by a thousand cuts…wait till you see what comes out in coming weeks on that fat c***t’, you have to ask whether this is the same Cameron Slater...
    Mana | 14-08
  • MANA CANDIDATE FOR IKAROA RAWHITI OPENS UP ABOUT SUICIDE
    “This week suicide has claimed yet more lives in whanau and communities in Ikaroa Rawhiti, and my heart goes out to those who are dealing with such a tragic loss”, says MANA candidate for Te Ikaroa Rawhiti, Te Hamua Nikora....
    Mana | 14-08
  • Offshore betting in Labour’s sights
    A Labour Government will clamp down on offshore gambling websites that deprive the local racing industry of funds, Labour’s Racing spokesperson Ross Robertson says. Releasing Labour’s racing policy today, he said betting on offshore websites is a major threat to...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Key has serious questions to answer on Dirty Politics
    John Key must answer the serious questions raised in Nicky Hager’s new book which reveal examples of dirty politics that New Zealanders will be deeply concerned about, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Many people will be disturbed by the evidence...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Creating an inclusive society for disabled people
    A Labour Government will provide free annual health checks for people with an intellectual disability, Labour’s Disability Issues spokesperson Ruth Dyson said today in announcing Labour’s Disability Issues policy. “We will also employ another 100 additional special education teachers and...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA name change
    This is to advise all media that on the 24th of July the ‘Mana’ party name was officially changed to ‘MANA Movement’ under the Electoral Act 1993.  The inclusion of the word ‘Movement’ in our name shouldn’t come as a surprise...
    Mana | 13-08
  • New Zealand must help in the growing Iraq crisis
    The humanitarian crisis in Iraq looks certain to get worse before it gets better,” said David Shearer Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson. “New Zealand should urgently pledge increased humanitarian assistance to United Nations agencies and NGOs present on the ground....
    Labour | 13-08
  • Allegations of migrant worker rort should be investigated
    Labour is calling for an investigation into the alleged exploitation of workers at Hutt Railway workshops, hired to repair asbestos-riddled DL locomotives. Hutt South Labour MP Trevor Mallard has written to the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment asking that...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Medical and dentistry students get reprieve under Labour
    A Labour Government will restore the right of medical and dentistry students to get student loans after seven years of study because it is the right thing to do, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says. “Hard on the heels...
    Labour | 13-08
  • National must stop meddling with ACC before the election
    The redesign currently occurring at the Accident Claims Corporation (ACC) for sensitive claims needs to be put on hold immediately, said the Green Party today.The Green Party is concerned about work currently underway at ACC involving the sensitive claims service...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Markets slow but first home buyers still hurting
    First home buyers are hurting more than ever as the supply of affordable houses in the market dries up, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The Reserve Bank will be happy LVR minimum deposits and rising interest rates have dampened...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Green Party celebrates MOU win on contaminated sites
    The Green Party is celebrating the announcement of a national register of contaminated sites today, and $2.5 million to start cleaning two sites up. The Green Party and the National Party agreed to include toxic site management work in their...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Emergency staff at breaking point
    The Southern DHB is so cash-strapped it is failing to fill nursing rosters, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson David Clark says.  “Every day emergency department nurses arrive at work knowing they are likely to be carrying more than their recommended workload. ...
    Labour | 12-08
  • ACC minister fails in mission to change culture
    The latest damning report by the Auditor General shows that the ACC Minister has failed to fulfil her mission to fix the sick culture at ACC and real change will not come till a new Government is elected, the Green...
    Greens | 12-08
  • Labour’s regional development fund to support Palmerston North
    Labour will consider a proposal to develop an inland port at Palmerston North, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The Palmerston North community has developed plans for an inland port which will bring jobs and economic growth to a region which...
    Labour | 12-08
  • Green Party announces priorities for Christchurch
    The Green Party has today announced its plan for a fairer, smarter and more democratic Canterbury rebuild, with a focus on smart transport solutions, restoring local democracy, and keeping Christchurch's assets.The plan sits across all of the Green Party's priorities...
    Greens | 11-08
  • Rock-star economy unplugged by China log jam
    The collapse of log prices due to oversupply in China threatens to wash the gloss off what remains of National's so-called rock-star economy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “Already this year the price of milk solids has plunged by more...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Young job seekers dealt a poor hand
    National's "keep 'em poor" card for young people on a benefit is a sorry substitute for job training, Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Sue Moroney says.  The Government today announced it would extend its payment card scheme to all teen parents...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Labour – achieving change for Kiwi women
    Working towards being a world leader in eliminating violence against women and children will be a priority for a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Women’s Affairs policy today spokesperson Carol Beaumont said while Labour had a proud track record of achieving...
    Labour | 11-08
  • A Matter of Whether John Key is Credible
    Headline: A Matter of Whether John Key is Credible Analysis by Selwyn Manning. Prime Minister, John Key.WITHIN NATIONAL’S STRATEGY TEAM there is an acceptance that the facts revealed in the book, Dirty Politics, is chewing away at the party’s popular...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • TDB Political Diary for 2014 Election
    Here are the political events TDB will be covering this election. I will be live tweeting these events and  blog reviews will follow the next day. Internet MANA launch – August – Sunday 24th – 1pm, Western Springs School Green...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • One man’s struggle to find a copy of Dirty Politics
    I’m typing this on top of Dirty Politics.  I got the last copy yesterday morning at the local branch of a chain bookshop.  I was really in to get the paper.  I know it sold out – everyone knows - but the first thing...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • From Tucker to Key – while you were out
      From Tucker to Key – while you were out...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Amnesty International – Justice is not Blind in Ferguson
    When a US cop pulls a gun on an unarmed man, he could be acting upon a series of impulses that have been formed since before he or she could talk. What does that police officer see in front of...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Putting an end to zero-hour contracts in 2015
    All around the world attention is being drawn to what have been dubbed in the UK “zero-hour contracts”. These are contracts that don’t have any guaranteed hours even though the worker may be regularly employed. Unite Union has been struggling...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • NZ’s Foreign Aid: The Party Policies Compared
    For the past two elections, I’ve cast my vote based on a single question, which party promises to give the most money in foreign aid? I grant that this is a fairly narrow and simplistic lens through which to judge...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Steering By The Real: Chris Trotter responds to Paul Buchanan
    WHEN ACADEMICS take to blogging the rest of us best be careful. And when they offer comment on the subject of dirty politics we should all pay attention. I will always remember my history lecturer, Dr Michael Cullen’s, confident dismissal...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Interview Between Selwyn Manning & Sean Plunket Over SIS Release of OIA...
    During a RadioLive interview between host Sean Plunket and managing director of Multimedia Investments Ltd, journalist Selwyn Manning, a fiery exchange developed after Plunket attempted to “wet flannel” the issue of whether the Prime Minister has been truthful over what...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • “Even though my hours are being cut, my rent doesn’t get cut to compens...
    Fast Food = Slow Pay   Lola is a manager at a major fast food chain. Last year her employer arbitrarily cut her hours from 32 hours to anywhere between 18 and 26 hours each week. “I said I can’t...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Hate Politics has no place in NZ Politics
    I wasn’t going to write about Nicky Hagar’s ‘Dirty Politics’.  There are plenty of policy issues to discuss. Then I read the book, and what it reveals strikes at the very heart of our democracy. My overwhelming feeling is one...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Pak’nSave pull adverts from Whaleoil
    Pak n Save have replied to complaints that their adverts were appearing on hate speech site Whaleoil by deciding to block their adverts from appearing on the site. Their reply… Congratulations for Pak’NSave on making this type of ethical stand. They...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Herald Poll – Why the Greens will hit 15%
    The biggest problem for John Key is that there are swathes of National Party voters who are educated and decent people whom will be forced to read Dirty Politics out of intellectual curiosity and will be horrified by what National...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Dirty Politics and Dirty Media
    The Nicky Hager book is mind blowing on so many levels. The revelations of government ministers and their staff colluding with vile and hateful schemers to attack other people, is truly ugly. When the dust settles on the illegalities, immoralities...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • “You just have to keep on fighting” – an interview with Metiria Turei
    We’re meeting in her office. It’s austere, though she does have a nice teapot. The view is startling. One can map the Bowen Triangle, though the teapot is still more interesting. A group of pink faced men are running across...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Taxation and Real Estate – turning housing debate on its head
    The debate about property prices in New Zealand is disingenuous. It is clear that there is a global process in which speculators are using massive amounts of unspent and borrowed money to blow bubbles in the world’s major asset markets....
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Michael Wood – Faith and politics
    In a week which has seen our collective focus shift to those who see politics as a great game to be manipulated for their own ends, it is timely to reflect on the fact that many people are in fact...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Government’s Own Guidelines Show John Key Would Have Been Informed Of SIS...
    Analysis by Selwyn Manning. INFORMATION THAT I HAVE ACQUIRED, sourced from the State Services Commission, states in black and white the tight guideline requirements that must be followed whenever the SIS informs a Prime Minister of any pending release of...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Simply Not Credible: Dr Tucker’s “clarifications” are only making thi...
    THAT DR WARREN TUCKER, Director of the Security Intelligence Service in 2011, agreed to the release of politically sensitive material – thereby intervening in an on-going contretemps between the leaders of the National and Labour parties – without receiving the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: Evidence of Collusion between the NZ Herald and Imm...
    . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the Herald...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Dear Canon NZ – Malevolence should induce revulsion, it shouldn’t be ce...
    Giovanni Tiso’s analysis on Slater is possibly the best in NZ… It’s been a good week for some of us. A week of feeling vindicated, offeeling galvanised. Where it goes from here will depend on several factors, some of which are largely...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • 5AA Australia: After Dirty Politics Can National Provide Stable Government?
    AS WE ALL KNOW New Zealanders and Australians do not like political parties that are unstable, or can no longer assure us that they are able to provide stable government. And the big question for Kiwis as we prepare to...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • SIS letter means it’s over for Key
    It’s over. I may not agree with all of Phil Goff’s positions, but you can’t question his integrity the way Slater did in Dirty Politics and not be deeply concerned that our Secret Intelligence Agency is being used for political...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • who to vote for in Epsom
    who to vote for in Epsom...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • The Rise and Fall of John Key – who will be the next leader of National P...
    . . It was all set to go: Teamkey would be the cult of personality that would do Stalin, Mao, Reagan, Thatcher, or any of the Nth Korean Kim Dynasty, proud.  National and it’s “Teamkey” propaganda strategy   would cash-in Big Time...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Who said Kiwis couldn’t get a fire in their bellies over an arcane intern...
    An amazing team of activists has taken the campaign on the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) to local governments throughout the country. Their latest triumph came last Monday when the Dunedin City Council endorsed a resolution expressing concern about the TPPA...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National’s Dangerous Education Agenda Exposed
    Putting aside the dirty politics coming out of the Beehive and the right-wing blogisphere, there are some very strong signals that another term of a National Government would do even more serious damage to the public education system. The Education...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • We can have clean politics and get our democracy back.
    Something is rotten in our politics and it stinks. Dirty politics has sadly become one of the defining features of this election campaign. In the light of recent revelations about the extent of nasty and disingenuous political strategies, it would...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Book burning copies of Hager’s book? The next generation of National Part...
    It seems we are getting the next generation of National Party Dirty Politics now. There are claims the Young Nats in Hamilton are buying up copies of Dirty Politics and burning them. One witness was contacted by the Waikato Times...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National Party Poetry Day Haiku
    Key’s inbox and Cam’s poison most foul, there he blows hoist by own harpoon...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Why Cunliffe will be the next PM
    David Cunliffe will be the next Prime Minister of NZ. Labour’s inclusive and positive TV adverts… …are in stark contrast to National’s team of white people powering away from the rabble of the ‘others’… …the messaging is vital and crucial...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • From smiling assassin to grumpy butcher – on giving Judith Collins a last...
    After #dirtypolitics Key isn’t the smiling assassin, he is the grumpy butcher. When he said Judith had  a ‘last chance’ he meant 1 second after voting closes on 20th September. Key would love nothing more than to cut Collins loose and end...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • If the National Party rowing advert was real….
    If the National Party rowing advert was real there would be more blood in the water. If the National Party rowing advert was real it would be Cameron Slater calling the strokes. If the national Party rowing advert was real,...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Cameron Slater: Zionist and political pundit
    It is hard to know where to start with right-wing blogger Cameron Slater (Whale Oil), especially after the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics. This confirmed everything many of us thought Slater to be: a snivelling pundit who serves...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Bryce Edwards stood down from Herald for election season??? Are the editors...
    I only found this out via twitter last night and I am still in shock. Bryce Edwards, easily the best critical thinker and news analyst the NZ Herald has has been stood down by the NZ Herald ‘for the election...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • So who’s a “conspiracy theorist” now?!
    . . As the media storm over Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“,  and allegations over smear campaigns continue to swirl,  National’s spin doctors have given Key, Collins, and other National Party ministers a string of  phrases to use in all...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Momentum shift
    When you are deeply immersed in a local campaign sometimes it can be difficult to see the helicopter view.   I don’t know how accurate the political polls are and have always known that things can change quickly in politics...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Dear Toby Manhire. Bad call on backing Farrar
    Oh dear. I say this as someone who regards Toby Manhire as one of the smartest journalists/commentators/columnists this country has, and I think Toby has made a terribly dumb call here. Let’s see if Toby is still singing Farrar’s praises...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Radio NZ apologise to me for getting it wrong
    Radio NZ have contacted me, reviewed the claim by their host that I had an advance copy of Nicky Hager’s book and they have concluded they got it wrong, they have called me and apologised and will make a statement...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Reclaim UoA – Students’ Message to Steven Joyce
    Tertiary Education – we’ve been sold a lemon  A group of 30 students attended an event on Tuesday evening about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which the Minister of Tertiary Education Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Can someone in the media please ask the PM of NZ to categorically deny any ...
    Now we see the MO of Slater & Co, the setting up, the digging for dirt, the use of staff to dig that dirt, can the Prime Minister of NZ categorically deny any National Party staff worked with Cam Slater...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Panic setting in for National as they realise what’s about to happen
    And the terror starts to set in. I’ve never seen blind panic like this before  and it’s spreading as the enormity of what’s about to happen starts to sink in. Hager’s book is a mere entree, Nicky’s personal ethics wouldn’t...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics: what the book ultimately reveals is abuse of powe...
    Guide to the many faces of John Key Nicky’s book is now doing what I suspected it would do, create a shockwave of revulsion. Andrew Geddis over at Pundit Blog sums up this attitude best, and it’s reverberations build with every...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Fancy taking children seriously
    Let’s see why all political parties should pay close attention to the Green Party’s policy for children. First, it is a comprehensive attempt to put children, not ideology, at the heart of family policy. Wow, children at the heart of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Amnesty International: Dear Azerbaijan, Stop Torture, Love Kiwi Kids
    This is a world where many adults often underestimate Generation Y. Being only a few years out of being a teenager myself, I feel I can make this statement with certainty. However, I have been the Youth Intern at Amnesty...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GCSB meetings today in Christchurch 1pm at Uni 7pm at Cathedral
    The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. 1pm at Canterbury University bottom floor James Height Building: Chair: Bomber Bradbury Ruth Dyson – Labour Party...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about
    Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Guide to when Key is lying
    Guide to when Key is lying...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The State of the Student Nation …or is just Al...
    Students politics are dead and our student media is in terminal decline. The most disappointing thing about university is the politics, or should I say lack of? I was raised with the idea that students held the power.They were the...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Love Lifts Us Up: Thoughts from the Green Party’s campaign launch.
    Author Eleanor Catton wants people to give their party vote to the Greens.Photo by Peter Meecham NO ONE WAS QUITE SURE how he did it. Somehow Bob Harvey had persuaded the owners of the rights to Joe Cocker’s Up Where...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • The Nation Environment Debate with Amy Adams & Russel Norman
    Lisa Owen: Now, this week's campaign debate. As a handful of islands at the bottom of the world, New Zealand is an environmental treasure, and as Kiwis, we're proud of being clean and greenish. But putting that environment to work...
    Scoop politics | 23-08
  • The Nation: Debate Between Amy Adams And Russel Norman
    Lisa Owen Hosts an Environment Debate Between National’s Amy Adams And Russel Norman From the Green Party....
    Scoop politics | 23-08
  • Travel And Accommodation Determination for MPs Released
    The Remuneration Authority today released its determination covering Members of Parliament New Zealand accommodation, travel services for family members, and travel services for former Prime Ministers and their spouses....
    Scoop politics | 23-08
  • Te Kuiti man imprisoned for images of young children
    A Te Kuiti man caught with pictures of children being sexually abused has been sentenced to ten months imprisonment. Sickness beneficiary Daniel James Parry, 35, appeared for sentence in the Tauranga District Court today (Friday) after pleading guilty...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Japan Maritime Training Squadron visit – Open Day, Band
    • The Japan Maritime Self-Defence Force Training Squadron will make port in Auckland from Wednesday 3 September to Saturday 6 September...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • MP Perk Transparency Needed
    The Taxpayers’ Union is slamming the increase in taxpayer-funded entitlements for MPs and their families published on the legislation website this afternoon . Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Debating the future of Auckland’s housing
    With only weeks until the General Election, Auckland’s mounting housing crisis will be put under the spotlight in an Election Debate hosted by the School of Architecture and Planning at the University of Auckland. The debate’s topic “Market forces...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Let’s sort this out – Human Rights Commission
    A Whangarei woman allegedly censured for greeting customers with Kia ora can get in touch with the Human Rights Commission says Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy. “We really need to resolve these kinds of issues. I had thought that...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Aged Care Association welcomes Labour’s wages policy
    The New Zealand Aged Care Association welcomes the Labour Party’s announcement that if elected, it will raise the minimum wage for aged care workers within its first 100 days in Government....
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Honorary doctorate for Secretary-General of the UN
    An Honorary Doctor of Laws degree is to be bestowed on His Excellency Mr Ban Ki-moon, Secretary-General of the United Nations, by the University of Auckland on Wednesday 3 September, both in recognition of his role as an international statesman...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Surveillance of Mr Upul Jayasuriya
    The New Zealand Bar Association joins the International Bar Association (IBA) and other Law Societies and Bar Associations worldwide over the reported surveillance of Mr Upul Jayasuriya, President of the Bar Association of Sri Lanka....
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Bob Parker, China State Media and Tibet Forum
    Former Christchurch mayor was signed up to position statement without his knowledge; observed “happiness” in Tibet as Tibetan protesters elsewhere shot by security forces...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • “Walk the talk to reduce the wage gap”
    There’s just a few weeks left to convince the candidates of all political parties that reducing the wage gaps makes good sense....
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Digital Currency on the Drawing Board
    Government policies and digital currency ideas and issues will come together at three public workshops next week....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • NZ Cycle Trail welcomes $8 million fund
    Government funding of $8 million to maintain and enhance the Great Rides of New Zealand will help ensure the trails are delivering the best possible visitor experience, says Evan Freshwater, Manager Nga Haerenga The New Zealand Cycle Trail Inc. (NZCT)....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Judges Comments Bonkers – McVicar
    Napier Conservative Party Candidate Garth McVicar is accusing a Judge of forgetting that he is the gate-keeper for the community and not a benevolent caregiver for law breakers. "The comments by this Judge are not just alarming, they're completely...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Oxfam: World must suspend arms sales to protect civilians
    As the New Zealand Government prepares to ratify the global Arms Trade Treaty, and after ceasefire talks collapsed and violence erupted yet again in Gaza yesterday, Oxfam is calling on all states to immediately suspend transfers of arms or ammunition...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Degrees in Picking up Rubbish
    Responding to the Fairfax media report of a University of Otago survey of Wellington’s street-connected walkways, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Another Union row
    “ The teachers union the NZEA is getting ready for another industrial dispute. These disputes now only occur in the government sector. National has no one to blame but themselves” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Whyte: Speech to Grey Power
    National’s failure to increase the age for super and reform health is a threat to every New Zealander’s security....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Local Govt should not go into business
    “No one should take any comfort from the fact that “Infracon”, a roading company in Tararua and Central Hawke's Bay, is to go into liquidation. This puts the future of more than 200 jobs in doubt. ACT sympathises with those...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Join the hikoi to end child poverty in New Zealand
    CPAG is calling on people across society to join a march from Britomart to Aotea Square in Auckland to demand action on child poverty in Aotearoa....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Ngapuhi Chair Says Enough of the Political Sideshow
    Time for side-shows to end so we can focus on future of our nation – Raniera (Sonny) Tau, Chairman, Te Runanga A Iwi O Ngapuhi...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Commissioner of Police v Kim Dotcom And Ors
    An order is made extending the duration of the registration of the restraining orders issued by the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia on 10 and 25 January 2012 and registered in New Zealand on 18...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Labour Announcement on Future of Hillside Workshops Welcome
    Labour leader David Cunliffe’s announcement in Dunedin today that a government led by his party would re-open Hillside Railway workshops was welcomed by the Rail and Maritime Transport Union (RMTU). ‘Since the workshops were shut down in late...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Primary teachers and principals vote to put kids first
    Teachers and principals have voted overwhelmingly against the Government’s controversial “Investing in Educational Success” policy, including proposed highly-paid principal and teacher roles....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunkett: Educating for Success
    In all the turmoil stirred up by the "Dirty Politics" revelations, the real issues that the campaign should be about have been put to one side....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Dirty Politics – Number One Bestseller and Back in Stores
    An exposé of the hidden side of New Zealand politics, Nicky Hager's book, Dirty Politics , has been in hot demand since its release last Wednesday....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Epsom: profiling NZ’s most controversial electorate
    Welcome to the wealthy inner Auckland electorate of Epsom: home of coat-tailing, the Tea Tapes, a convicted outgoing MP... and heavy newspaper and magazine readership....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Families Free From Violence campaign and website
    We are pleased to announce the launch of our Families Free From Violence campaign and our new Families Free From Violence website. This website has been created to encourage people to take responsibility for ending family violence by seeking help...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • PSA And DHBs Reach Settlement on Five Collective Agreements
    The 20 District Health Boards are pleased to reach settlement via mediation on five Multi Employer Collective Agreements (MECAs) with the Public Service Association for 12,000 mental and public health nurses, allied, public health and technical staff,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Refusal to complete census results in 46 convictions
    Failing to fill out a census form has resulted in the convictions of 46 people, Statistics New Zealand said today....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Council Amalgamations Still Bad Deal
    Northland, Bay of Plenty, and Wellington ratepayers should not be seduced into accepting the amalgamation of their Councils by a recent amendment to legislation allowing for local boards not community boards, Chris Leitch, Democrats for Social Credit...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • DHB industrial action withdrawn
    The Public Service Association (PSA) has withdrawn notices of industrial action covering 12,000 health workers at District Health Boards (DHBs) across New Zealand, after progress was made in mediation....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Aged Care Pledge Needs Better Target, Says Care Agency
    Labour’s pledge to set up an aged care working group to address industry concerns is good to see, but appears to skirt the obvious issue of a looming lack of beds and carers for our rapidly growing elderly population, says...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Social inequality still rife in New Zealand
    Social inequality has worsened over the past decade in New Zealand, a new study from Victoria University of Wellington shows....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Working towards a living wage and more Māori in paid work
    The Māori Party will build on the gains it has already achieved in Government and accelerate job opportunities particularly for young Māori....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Deepwater Group Supports Changes to Catch Limits
    The Deepwater Group says the increase in the Total Allowable Commercial Catch for hoki shows the benefits of a long term commitment to build biomass in this major New Zealand fishery....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Ohariu candidate Sean Fitzpatrick
    “Our Ohariu candidate will be Sean Fitzpatrick. Sean has strong ties to the region and I’m glad to hear he will be doing his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the area,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Tauranga candidate Stuart Pederson
    “Our Tauranga candidate will be Stuart Pedersen. Stuart has strong ties to Tauranga and I’m glad he has agreed to do his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the electorate,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party scores massive own goal
    Green Party scores massive own goal as their own policy auditor criticises their fiscal plan...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party’s own Auditor of their Budget finds it dodgy
    “The Alternative Budget released by the Green's does not even stack up in the eyes of their chosen auditor – Infometrics” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • New shark finning laws fall short for threatened species
    Environmental groups are welcoming some aspects of a raft of law changes announced today in relation to shark finning, but say that overall the chance for New Zealand to catch up with international efforts in shark conservation is being missed....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Promoting Labour’s Positive Policies
    General Secretary of the New Zealand Labour Party, Tim Barnett, today launched Labour’s television advertisements for the 2014 election. The advertisements help tell Labour’s positive story for a better New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug Court: Rare Insight into New Alternative Justice Model
    Māori Television’s latest New Zealand documentary presents a fascinating look inside a new alternative justice model – through the stories of convicted criminals....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Political parties pledge to increase overseas aid
    A survey of political parties looking at how much New Zealand should spend on Official Development Assistance (ODA) shows the overwhelming majority of parties are committed to raising the bar according to the Council for International Development (CID)....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Top Kiwis backing Tip the Scales campaign
    Sir Graham Henry, former All Black Kees Meeuws, singer-song writer Jamie McDell and fishing guru Matt Watson have pledged their support to Tip the Scales, a pre-election campaign generating public support for rebuilding New Zealand’s depleted inshore...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Maritime Union continues to press over dirty politics
    Maritime Union National President Garry Parsloe says Ports of Auckland management is trying to get off the hook from its involvement with extreme right wing bloggers during the Ports of Auckland dispute....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • No end in sight to overwhelming human cost of conflict
    Two ceasefires have brought some respite to civilians in Gaza and southern Israel, amid hope that a durable cessation of hostilities might occur. In Gaza, these breaks in the fighting have barely given people enough time to seek medical care,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Young Kiwi speakers to represent NZ at Gallipoli 2015
    The RSA is delighted at the announcement made by Veterans' Affairs Minister Michael Woodhouse today, that all eight regional finalists of the 2015 ANZ RSA Cyril Bassett VC Speech Competition will be included in a group of 25 Youth Ambassadors...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
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