Losing your job

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1. Nick 1

   23 August 2013 at 11:49 am

   BREAKING: Jobs to go in Labour Caucus

   Incoming Labour Leader David Cunliffe has announced a major restructure of the Labour Caucus, with several seasoned Labour MP’s expected to lose their positions.

   Those expected to be effected by the decision include

   Trevor Mallard
   Chris Hipkins
   Phil Goff
   Annette King
   Clayton Cosgrove…
   • Mary 1.1

     23 August 2013 at 1:22 pm

     If you’d included Shane Jones and Ruth Dyson I would’ve believed you.
2. marty mars 2

   23 August 2013 at 12:00 pm

   Thanks for posting this because this is the reality for many and each of those people who have lost their jobs will likely be frightened and worried about their future and how they are going to survive. I’m not sure if shearer is in that category.
3. McFlock 3

   23 August 2013 at 12:05 pm

   That’s something like 2000 job losses – and those are the ones big enough for an announcement.

   There but for the grace of god, and all that….
4. alwyn 4

   23 August 2013 at 12:05 pm

   I think that the member of the Labour caucus with the most to worry about is David Parker.
   Who is he going to support?
   If there is a stitch-up by the caucus, with only one person standing for each job he is best to support Cunliffe. After all if the stitch-up has Robertson as leader, Cunliffe’s price for taking the second position will be the Finance role so Parker will miss out. If on the other hand Cunliffe comes out in top place Parker might keep Finance, BUT, only if he supported Cunliffe.
   If, on the other hand, it goes to a proper election, he could still keep the finance role under Robertson if he supported him, and might keep the role under Cunliffe, but again only if he had supported Cunliffe.
   He probably prefers Robertson, who is basically ignorant about economic matters so he would be likely to choose to support Robertson.
   The problem for poor Mr Parker is that he will probably have to make the fatal choice before he knows if it will be the stitch-up or the knockdown, drag-out battle.
   Tough luck old chap, couldn’t happen to a nicer bloke.
   • bad12 4.1

     23 August 2013 at 12:18 pm

     And this has what??? to do with the announcement that AirNZ will shed 100’s more employees…
     • alwyn 4.1.1

       23 August 2013 at 2:42 pm

       Damn. Nothing at all. I meant to post it in the “Choose Wisely” thread.
       Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
5. Colonial Viper 5

   23 August 2013 at 12:07 pm

   Austerity comes to NZ

   We have an economy which no longer needs workers, as wealth rises and stagnates at the top.
   • Draco T Bastard 5.1

     23 August 2013 at 3:38 pm

     +1
   • Rhinocrates 5.2

     24 August 2013 at 3:39 pm

     Russian proverb (which may say something about their diet): shit floats.
6. Chris 6

   23 August 2013 at 12:13 pm

   While it is still not a pretty picture, a couple of points for this post:

   – the telecom losses of 1,280 were during the year ended 30 June 2013 they did not happen this month
   – the 100 call centre jobs to go and the job’s to go at Sitel’s Auckland site are talking about the same thing
7. bad12 7

   23 August 2013 at 12:14 pm

   And the tears continue to fall, what a pathetic monetarist world our politicians have built for us where the price of the NZ dollar which the money traders play with at will can mean the difference of being able to put dinner on the table for the family or not,

   For those who only have their labor, even skilled labor, to sell into this marketized world the future, unless a government, any Government, takes full control of the money supply is bleak featuring rotational unemployment along with all the ugly sanctions put in place by this Slippery National Government,

   The latest announcement of redundancies by AirNZ only has the positive of reinforcing my belief that this abysmal government must go and that an incoming Government must look to what is left of it’s profitable assets and lower it’s profit expectations in favor of increasing employment…
8. Tracey 8

   23 August 2013 at 1:47 pm

   and the CEO of Fletcher Building wants Thatcherism in Aussie to decimate unions so he can turn a profit, like they do here with our low low wages.

   … at east he didn’t actually say “trickle-down” because with the labour market in NZ (courtesy of the 80’s, Richardson and now Key, they don’t even pretend that there will be something in it for the average worker in the long run.
9. srylands 9

   23 August 2013 at 4:51 pm

   This story is mad. Most of those job losses are a good thing.

   e.g. Air NZ has found a more efficient contract to service their new fleet. Are you seriously suggesting that Air NZ should not do everything possible to lift efficiency? If so, it would not last long. Next time you travel to South America try flying Aerolineas Argentinas. That’s what happens when your airline is incentivised to maximise employment (or prevented from managing – same thing.)

   But the big picture – Job Destruction is excellent and necessary. Every year about 200,000 jobs are destroyed and created. You want to encourage that. All these emotive stories do is focus on a tiny slice of the destruction side of the equation.

   “Annual measures of job creation and destruction in New Zealand”

   http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/income-and-work/employment_and_unemployment/LEED-reports/annual-measures-of-job-creation-and-destruction.aspx
   • Colonial Viper 9.1

     23 August 2013 at 9:14 pm

     Shitlands – You’re an idiot. capitalism is over and the age of the guillotine is coming.

     Of course Air NZ should eliminate efficiency. better to do that than eliminate jobs and create an economy which does not require workers, only serfs.

     Expropriation of excessive wealth is the only answer.
   • Murray Olsen 9.2

     23 August 2013 at 11:52 pm

     What’s wrong with Aerolineas? I’ve flown them heaps of times. I generally get better service than from Air New Zealand.
     • srylands 9.2.1

       23 August 2013 at 11:58 pm

       http://www.tripadvisor.com/Airlines-AR-Aerolineas-Argentinas

       Well that is not the consensus. But good on you.
       • Colonial Viper 9.2.1.1

         24 August 2013 at 12:08 am

         maybe you should look up the word “consensus” eh?
         • srylands 9.2.1.1.1

           24 August 2013 at 4:47 pm

           “Colonial Viper

           “maybe you should look up the word “consensus” eh?”

           Og fuck off you moron. You know nothing about airlines, or life probably. Have you ever been out of Hamilton?
     • georgecom 9.2.2

       24 August 2013 at 4:37 pm

       I have also flown AA, found the experiences agreeable enough. Couldn’t find much difference with the other airlines I have used.
10. tricledrown 10

    23 August 2013 at 6:31 pm

    Schrillands the developef countries have been sucked in by neo liberalism.
    Now wealth disparity in NZ is at an all time high.
    Our dollar is overvalued destroying the productive sector.
    Now we just borrow and hope instead of creating wealth.
    The only ones making any money are the giant lenders corporate banks who are gouging our economy.
    Until we bring our dollar down to around 64 cents against the US dollar we will continue to live beyond our means building up more massive debt!
    • srylands 10.1

      23 August 2013 at 8:54 pm

      “Until we bring our dollar down to around 64 cents against the US dollar we will continue to live beyond our means building up more massive debt!”

      Says who? The last time the NZD/USD traded in that range was 2001-2005. There was a massive housing boom – all funded by overseas borrowing.

      Back to the story – I maintain it is a good thing that Air NZ is a highly efficient airline – which means fewer jobs. It is excellent for NZ. The alternative – where the govt directs a state owned airline to act as an employment creation scheme is awful – take a look at Iberia. Is that what you want? How would you run Air NZ so that it can compete and not go out of business?
      • Colonial Viper 10.1.1

        23 August 2013 at 9:19 pm

        The most important lesson is that corporate, investor and shareholder needs have no interest in serving families, communities or the nation as a whole.

        It is a mistake to think that they have loyalty to anyone except to their own ends.

        “Efficiency” – code for the ever increasing drive to transfer wealth from workers to capitalists.
      • Draco T Bastard 10.1.2

        24 August 2013 at 11:07 am

        Says who? The last time the NZD/USD traded in that range was 2001-2005. There was a massive housing boom – all funded by overseas borrowing.

        /facepalm

        Two things:
        1.) it wasn’t boom but a bubble and
        2.) Rising house prices: we still have it.

        I maintain it is a good thing that Air NZ is a highly efficient airline – which means fewer jobs. It is excellent for NZ.

        I agree with that I just don’t agree with people being dumped into poverty because of it which is what you’re advocating for. The number of jobs destroyed always outnumbers the number of jobs created.
11. srylands 11

    23 August 2013 at 9:05 pm

    Rely #2

    “Until we bring our dollar down to around 64 cents against the US dollar we will continue to live beyond our means building up more massive debt!”

    The NZ current account deteriorated steadily from 2001 – 2005 – all while NZD was in the 51-65 USD range.

    http://www.tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/current-account

    Be very careful advocating (or engineering) a crash in the dollar as your solution to NZ living beyoind its means. It is not so simple. Otherwise it would be done – but more importantly I have posted 2 indicators that suggest that the last time our dollar was “low” things went south on the CA deficit and in housing inflation.
    • Colonial Viper 11.1

      23 August 2013 at 9:21 pm

      NZ is not living beyond its means, it is living far below its means. Give up your fantasy world, Shitlands.
    • Draco T Bastard 11.2

      24 August 2013 at 11:13 am

      Be very careful advocating (or engineering) a crash in the dollar as your solution to NZ living beyoind its means.</blockquote?
      Although I agree with you I'm pretty sure that you have NFI just what living within our means would force us to do. We have limited resources and to live within those resources would mean that we would have to decrease the size of our economy – especially farming. We could develop some areas (I’m all for a space program) but the fact of the matter is that the amount of work available to us is on the decrease due to the limits of our resources.
12. tricledrown 12

    23 August 2013 at 9:43 pm

    shrillands capital gains tax +land tax then reduce income and business tax.
    Their has been a flood of money coming into the country since Roger Douglas opened the freemarket door.
    it has grown at exactly the same rate both under Nactional as Labour for 30 years so you are lying again schrilglands!
    • srylands 12.1

      23 August 2013 at 10:28 pm

      “it has grown at exactly the same rate both under Nactional as Labour for 30 years so you are lying again ”

      So there are no cycles? – it grows at EXACTLY the same rate, every day, for 30 years? What data do you look at?

      What a waste of space.

      Plus I have previously indicated strong support for a land tax and CGT. But that is not the subject of this thread.
      • Colonial Viper 12.1.1

        23 August 2013 at 10:33 pm

        Cycles? Get out of here. we’ve had a secular change in the global economy since 2007-2008.

        Catch up mate you are 30 years behind with your economic “theories” (i.e. nonsense)
13. tricledrown 13

    23 August 2013 at 10:35 pm

    Schrill NZ stats dept.I have read New Zealnads economic statistics going back to when they were first recorded! Funny that labour by spreading money around get more economic growth
    Moving investment towards production investment away from speculation is how jobs will be created!
    Its on thread
    • srylands 13.1

      23 August 2013 at 10:46 pm

      “Moving investment towards production investment away from speculation is how jobs will be created!”

      Yes which is exactly what the 5th Labour Government did not do. They created a 7 year housing boom.

      What the hell is the “Schrill NZ stats dept”?

      Which of Labour’s current policies will move investment “towards production”?

      The CGT is one, but it needs to cover all housing to be effective.

      They also need a land tax, which they don’t have as policy.

      Which other policies will change the landscape as you envisage?
      • srylands 13.1.1

        23 August 2013 at 10:52 pm

        “What the hell is the “Schrill NZ stats dept”?

        I assume you mean Statistics NZ? Do you mean “shrill”? Why is Stats NZ shrill? They have well grounded legislation. All my dealings with them have been professional. What happened with you?
14. tricledrown 14

    23 August 2013 at 10:39 pm

    Schrilglands Labour spreading more money around creating more economic growth. Bob Jones who has read far more widely than you espouses that FACT!
    • srylands 14.1

      23 August 2013 at 10:55 pm

      Wow Bob Jones – it must be a FACT then? 🙂 I thought you would decry Bob if he said “the cat sat on the mat” What the fuck are you on about quoting Bon Jones?

      “Who gives a toss what online ranters think” – Bon Jones

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10898577

      Imagine if I confined this column to a large photo of myself and the simple message, “The cat sat on the mat”. On the evidence of past form here’s a likely website reaction.

      Struggling Worker, Henderson: “Yeah right, Mr Jones. Fine for the 1 per cent who can afford cats and mats but what about the rest of us?”

      Doto, 54: “As always, more Jones sneering from on high, which is why I never read his column as every week it’s the same garbage from start to finish.”

      Raupo, Morrinsville: “I also never read Mr Jones, but finally he’s got something right. Our cat sits on a mat.”

      Shaun, Turangi Prison Farm: “It’s an attack on Catholics – clear as day.”

      Anne, Whakatane: “Bob’s wrong. Our cat only lies on a sofa.”

      JD, Wanganui: “Hang on, Anne. What colour’s your cat?”

      Anne, Whakatane: “It’s ginger, JD.”

      JD, Wanganui: “Well there you go, Anne. It’s obviously Irish and just being obstreperous. Normal cats sit on mats, as Bob said.”

      Struggling Worker, Henderson: “What none of you realise is that lots of us are battling to make ends meet and can’t afford cats and mats. It’s simply more of Jones’ weekly arrogance, ridiculing the poor, which is why I never read his rubbish.”

      Margaret, Tauranga: “Lots of kittens are available free.”

      Struggling Worker, Henderson: “Yeah right, Margaret. But we’re not all parasitically raking in rents from high-rise buildings and can afford to feed cats. And for that matter, who’s giving away mats?”

      Rose, Wanganui: “Your criticisms are unfair. Personally, I think Sir Robert is a national treasure, as our cat sits on a mat.”

      Walter, Mt Roskill: “Rose-tinted glasses, I’m afraid, Rose. How does Jones know all cats sit on mats? It’s a typical Jones sweeping generalisation. Has he studied every cat in New Zealand? I don’t think so.”

      Thucydides, Korea: “Sir Robert didn’t say all cats sit on mats. He was referring to a cat – singular. Cats here in Korea sit on mats.”

      Struggling Worker, Henderson: “That may be so, Thucydides, but the Korean working man didn’t have Rogernomics inflicted on him, otherwise we’d all have cats, and mats too, and not just Jones and his mate Key. It’s typical Jones mocking the matless. He hates the poor.”

      Rangi, Te Awamutu: “He hates Maori too.”

      Frances, Pukekohe: “I reckon he hates cats.”

      Shaun, Turangi Prison Farm: “And Catholics.”

      Damian, Shortland Street: “And homosexuals.”

      Thinking Man, Manukau: “And Jews.”

      Annabel, Wellington: “And mats.”

      Fred, Napier: “He is a Jew.”

      Charles, Foxton: “No he’s not. I know his sister. But he could be a homosexual.”

      Struggling Worker, Henderson: “Bring in capital gains tax then we’ll all have cats and mats.”

      W.E., Titirangi: “We’ve got a rug. Does that count?”

      Raupo, Matamata: “You’re missing the critical point of the issue here, W.E. Do you have a cat?”

      W.E., Titirangi: “Never thought of that, Raupo. We haven’t got a cat but we’ve got a dog and it sits on the rug. Also, we’ve got a budgie.”

      Thinker, Hawera: “Rugs are different from mats, W.E. They’re bigger and with a thicker texture. Bob’s only talking about mats, and for that matter cats, so you’re out of line.”

      Struggling Worker, Henderson: “Pay a living wage and we’d all have cats and mats plus dogs and rugs instead of just the Joneses of this world.”

      And on it goes, on and on. It’s unbelievable.
      • felix 14.1.1

        23 August 2013 at 11:01 pm

        You really are quite a disturbed individual.
        • Rhinocrates 14.1.1.1

          23 August 2013 at 11:25 pm

          Yes, that’s quite… um…”interesting” isn’t it with all those masks and projections? The endless ghost train that srylands is riding through would be worthy of Rod Serling’s The Twilight Zone.
15. tricledrown 15

    23 August 2013 at 10:56 pm

    the housing boom started much earlier than 2000 especially in Auckland the amount of money borrowed grew at the same rate under labour as it did under national during the nineteen nineties but labour got 3 times the volume of economic growth that national achieved in their 9 years!
    9 years under National 1990 to 2000 8.3 % volume over previous govt!
    9years under labour 2000 to 2008 28% volume over previous govt!
    When you look through previous govts labour has out performed the conservative govts every time!
    • srylands 15.1

      23 August 2013 at 11:01 pm

      “When you look through previous govts labour has out performed the conservative govts every time!”

      Yes we have done this. Economic growth follows policy change with a lag.

      The 28% growth under labour 200-2008 did nothing for NZ’s wealth. It papered over huge structural problems and made housing unaffordable for workers.

      Growth alone is not a good thing. We live in a finite world. You need to get past your narrow growth and “throwing money around” paradigm. Are you a crazy neoliberal? You sound just fucking like it.

      So stop quoting growth figures like it is a good thing.
16. srylands 16

    23 August 2013 at 10:57 pm

    and finally I can only assume you have not indeed flown Iberia. That IS what happens when your national airline does NOT sack its inefficient workers. Try them out and report back.
    • Colonial Viper 16.1

      23 August 2013 at 11:00 pm

      Oh fuck off

      That’s a world apart from hiring Chinese air cabin staff at 1/4 wages

      Your “efficiency” is simply code for moving income from workers to owners and investors

      Why don’t you fuck off.
      • srylands 16.1.1

        23 August 2013 at 11:05 pm

        Why don’t you fuck off? I’ll be around here long after you developed gangrene in your Enderley basement.

        We are talking about Air NZ’s engineering contracts. And what is wrong with hiring Chinese workers? They are good workers. We will be bringing in 600 of them next year when we build Transmission Gully 🙂
        • Colonial Viper 16.1.1.1

          23 August 2013 at 11:26 pm

          And what is wrong with hiring Chinese workers? They are good workers. We will be bringing in 600 of them next year when we build Transmission Gully 🙂

          You have young neighbours, people you know from school, extended family members, who are struggling to find jobs, struggling to make a living, losing hours at work and losing employment.

          Yet you glorify in this.

          You’re a fucking sick shit.
      • srylands 16.1.2

        23 August 2013 at 11:07 pm

        “our “efficiency” is simply code for moving income from workers to owners and investors”

        No it is code for moving rents from workers and producers to paying passengers – you know the New Zealanders that can now afford to use airlines.
        • Colonial Viper 16.1.2.1

          23 August 2013 at 11:14 pm

          Incorrect. The majority of money taken off workers goes to the owners. The consumers still get gouged to the maximum extent possible.

          It’s the capitalist way.

          No it is code for moving rents from workers and producers to paying passengers

          “Rents”? You really are stupid.

          Your maximisation of income and wealth deflation for the bottom 90% will inevitably lead to the guillotine. I suggest you stop it.
          • srylands 16.1.2.1.1

            23 August 2013 at 11:27 pm

            No you are stupid. It really is about the elimination of rents. It is simply a microcosm of the problem of restrictions in trade.

            The Australian Productivity Commission have been measuring these costs for years. This methodology is now being picked up here because now we have our very own NZ Productivity Commission 🙂 🙂

            http://www.pc.gov.au/research/memorandum/servicesrestriction

            When this research is reported to R. Norman when he is (probably) Minister for Economic Development, he will simply get with the program. There will be some minor rhetoric, but the broad direction of these policies will carry on.

            How is Enderley tonight?
            • Colonial Viper 16.1.2.1.1.1

              23 August 2013 at 11:34 pm

              Elimination of rents?

              You moron. You’re only talking about the elimination of workers income.

              “Productivity”, “efficiency”, all your other buzzwords are merely code for shifting income to the top 1% of owners and investors.

              Nice thing is, the white collar class, engineers, architects, software developers, lawyers, accountants, are finally all seeing their jobs at risk from these moves now. What they saw happen to blue collar workers is now happening to them, plain as day.

              You’re fucked.
              • srylands …

                23 August 2013 at 11:55 pm

                “elimination of rents?

                You moron. You’re only talking about the elimination of workers income.”

                No you are the moron. You obviously know nothing about rents. You certainly know nothing about the business models of successful airlines!

                Get out of Enderley. Go fly on airlines that adopt your “workers rule” approach. And then report back on your experience. Don’t worry you can still post here. They have the interweb in Spain.
                • Colonial Viper …

                  24 August 2013 at 12:59 am

                  There’s no such thing as a successful airline, moron. The entire industry, like banking, has lost more money than it has ever made in its history. Fucking idiot.
                  • srylands …

                    24 August 2013 at 1:05 am

                    “There’s no such thing as a successful airline, moron. The entire industry, like banking, has lost more money than it has ever made in its history. Fucking idiot.”

                    Have you ever actually travelled in an airplane? You are the fucking idiot. You sound like a neoliberal.

                    A successful airline is one that stays in business, minimises carbon emissions and provides affordable high quality services. Air NZ also (since its rescue *thanks helen*) returns decent dividends.

                    The industry loses money but there are a few well run airlines. The medium term outlook is less certain.

                    I repeat – you know nothing about airlines.

                    You are a fucking idiot. You are like a rabid dog frothing at the mouth who thinks the whole world is wrong and only you are correct. You live in a 1950s class war time warp.
                    • Colonial Viper …

                      24 August 2013 at 1:19 am

                      Fuck airlines, the industry is gone in 20 years.

                      The industry loses money but there are a few well run airlines. The medium term outlook is less certain.

                      Yeah the industry loses money, hand over fist, lol, that’s what you regard as “successful”.

                      The entire industry is ripe for nationalisation.
            • Colonial Viper 16.1.2.1.1.2

              23 August 2013 at 11:38 pm

              Let’s eliminate the rents that banks and institutional investors take out of society.

              That’ll add $10B pa back into the NZ economy.
              • srylands …

                24 August 2013 at 1:08 am

                Oh yes those evil banks. 🙂
                • felix …

                  24 August 2013 at 1:15 am

                  Yeah, whenever I have no answer I pretend my opponents are describing things as “evil” too.

                  Moron.
                • Colonial Viper …

                  24 August 2013 at 1:16 am

                  Oh I don’t care whether they are “evil” or not (although greed is clearly a deadly sin), I just care that they extract less rent from NZ society. I thought that was what you wanted as well. You little creepy apologist for rentier capitalism.
          • srylands 16.1.2.1.2

            23 August 2013 at 11:32 pm

            “Incorrect. The majority of money taken off workers goes to the owners. The consumers still get gouged to the maximum extent possible.”

            So why do Argentinians pay so much for air travel? Why is Iberia going broke (and gouging Spanish workers and taxpayers?) You really need to get out and around the world more. Oh I forgot you are stuck in fucking Enderley with your wetback and a cat.
            • Colonial Viper 16.1.2.1.2.1

              23 August 2013 at 11:34 pm

              Who gives a fuck about what happens in Argentina?

              Try and stay focussed will you.
              • srylands …

                23 August 2013 at 11:50 pm

                “Who gives a fuck about what happens in Argentina?”

                You should.
    • Murray Olsen 16.2

      23 August 2013 at 11:57 pm

      I’ve flown Iberia. The worst thing was the drunken Swiss idiot in the row behind me trying to rape a Belgian girl. The stewards handled it very well. The food was passable as well.
17. tricledrown 17

    23 August 2013 at 11:08 pm

    Schrilglands bob was referring to the earthquakes in wellington he doesn’t suffer fools lightly.
    He said in his previous opinion column that labour always means we have a vibrant economy.
    While national run the economy down so big players with deep pockets monopolize the market for the benefit of a few!
    Bob would be raining cats and dogs down on you Goose because you can’t think for yourself you just blindly follow the mantra!
    • srylands 17.1

      23 August 2013 at 11:09 pm

      “Schrilglands bob was referring to the earthquakes in wellington he doesn’t suffer fools lightly.”

      Who the hell is “Schrilglands bob”?
      • tricledrown 17.1.1

        23 August 2013 at 11:45 pm

        Schrilglands bob is sideshow bobs brother
18. srylands 18

    23 August 2013 at 11:11 pm

    “Bob would be raining cats and dogs down on you Goose because you can’t think for yourself you just blindly follow the mantra!”

    You write “Bob would be raining cats and dogs down on you Goose” is it “your Goose”?

    Anyway you write that and you suggest I can’t think?
19. tricledrown 19

    23 August 2013 at 11:18 pm

    Schrilglands. Bob was winding up idiots who complained about his column you obviously were the sucker that fell for it!
    • srylands 19.1

      23 August 2013 at 11:20 pm

      “Bob was winding up idiots who complained about his column”

      um yes exactly.
20. tricledrown 20

    23 August 2013 at 11:24 pm

    You were just complaining about bobs column
    • srylands 20.1

      23 August 2013 at 11:28 pm

      “You were just complaining about bobs column”

      No I thought it was very funny. Where is the complaint?
21. tricledrown 21

    23 August 2013 at 11:40 pm

    Thats unbelievable goose from Auckland
    • srylands 21.1

      23 August 2013 at 11:51 pm

      “Thats unbelievable goose from Auckland”

      I thought that Was David Cunliffe
      • Murray Olsen 21.1.1

        24 August 2013 at 12:55 am

        At your age, you’d be better off reading Lord of the Rings than Atlas Shrugged.
22. tracey 22

    24 August 2013 at 1:56 pm

    Srylands

    do you think nzers working in paying jobs is good for nz?
23. tracey 23

    24 August 2013 at 1:59 pm

    Is replacing nz pilots with cheaper pilots from overseas really about being efficient srylands.

    do you have airnz shares in your portfolio.
24. Rhinocrates 24

    24 August 2013 at 3:46 pm

    Incoming Labour Leader David Cunliffe has announced a major restructure of the Labour Caucus, with several seasoned Labour MP’s expected to lose their positions.

    Those expected to be effected by the decision include

    Trevor Mallard
    Chris Hipkins
    Phil Goff
    Annette King
    Clayton Cosgrove…

    I’m prone to think that there are going to be a lot of freshly-painted roofs soon, but realistically, if David Cunliffe hopefully becomes leader, he will need to keep his friends close and his enemies closer as Helen Clark did with Michael Cullen. So if it does come to pass that he wins, expect Beltway Grant in a senior position to operate the party machine… but damn, I can’t think of any in the ABC club who qualify as “talent”… Goff, King, Mallard, Jones, Hipkins, Curran, Fenton? Moronic dullards and troughers all, but some of them will have to have their places on the front trough… Such is the price.

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