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Making you pay for their folly

Written By: - Date published: 12:15 pm, December 18th, 2012 - 110 comments
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Well it looks like the government has finally listened to all of the arguments about how unaffordable the Roads of National Significance are.

Their response? To tax you more to pay for their white elephant.

Remember, this is a government that wouldn’t introduce a new tax to help rebuild Christchurch because it would stifle a “fragile” economy.

Unbelievable.

110 comments on “Making you pay for their folly”

  1. Enough is Enough 1

    I have no objection against this tax. It will have the effect of moving people out of cars. That is a good thing.

    • tc 1.1

      And go to public transport ? which they refuse to back and keep stalling on such issues as the akl rail loop.

      There’s the nact logic at play.

    • Tiresias 1.2

      And for the folk who live where there is no public transport – which is anyone in a rural area and even a small town, in New Zealand?  Or who begin and end work when public transport isn’t running?
      Of course it’s their fault for chosing to live where there is no public transport – which is most of New Zealand.  We should all live in high-rise suburbs where we can be suppied with plentiful public transport to carry us to our employment and schools and the shops and the circuses set up to entertain and mollify us.  They we’d all be out of our cars.  Wouldn’t that be a good thing?
       

    • Lefty 1.3

       
      Increasing fuel taxes won’t move people out of cars on to public transport if there is no suitable public transport available, which is the case in most of New Zealander most of the time.

      Nor will it shift people to public transport if driving is still cheaper as is often the case at present.

      Or if the distance to work is so great our slow public transport is impractical timewise.

      It will make it more costly for low paid workers to get to work though, while the business community and much of the middle class will find ways to write it off in tax or pass the cost on to someone else somehow.

      It may lead to less driving done for leisure activities by some low income people but why is it always them that has to make the sacrifice?

      This is simply a money grab so the governments can keep its promise to its mates to pay them heaps to build more roads.

      • mike 1.3.1

        Lets not forget that the ‘roads of national significance’ have absolutely nothing to do with cars or public transport. They are built to suit the trucking industry. Since trucking companies have poured so much money into the national party cofers they feel it’s their right to have taxpayers pay for infrastructure that will help them shorten travel times around cities and make more dough – in other words the new roads will be of great significance to the trucking industry – simple.

    • Mike 1.4

      Nah, most people won’t move out of cars until there’s a viable alternative. Even should an alternative materialise, I sorta think people may stick to their cars anyway. (Until ever decreasing oil production results in forced alternatives.)

  2. Te Reo Putake 2

    Boy, they really don’t want to win the next election, do they? Perhaps Matthew Hooten can let us know what the long term plan is? Lose in 2014, rebuild under Collins. Lose again in 2017. Rebuild again under Bridges*, with a new 20/20 vision. Lose again in 2020. Rinse and repeat.
     
    * not an intentional troll joke, but might be useful in the future.

  3. xtasy 3

    Damned, there goes another “share” of the “middle class” vote!?

    Having to pay more for running their cars, to get from A to B will not go down well with “the centre”, still largely clinging to a lifestyle of never ending lala land (quarter acre section, 2 car garage, drive everywhere, even to the corner dairy).

    But it is smartly timed, just before X-mas, while most are busy with making arrangements for the festive days, a holiday, shopping for presents and provisions, Parliament having ended for the year and many journalists preoccupied with freak weather, a shooting in Connecticut, Kate’s invisible “baby bump”.

    It is the start of the silly season, so news are not much taken note of, generally.

  4. Do you know why this is being announced today? It is because the Government cannot make their figures add up otherwise so that they are in surplus in 2015-2016.
     
    It is no coincidence that increases in the FED are announced the same day that the HYEFUL is released.
     
    It is a sneaky tax take to pay for something that is an abject waste of time.
     
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10854830

    • tc 4.1

      What on top of the billion + hole that existed off the back of the guesstimate over asset sales, no analysis on GDST rise impacts.
      Colleagues in Oz are just flummoxed that our MSM can’t do basic maths, they’d be hung over there with this kind of bookeeping.
      But hey isn’t it great to give yourself 8/10 and fob off those annoying ‘numbers’ as irrelevant.

    • tc 4.2

      What on top of the billion + hole that existed off the back of the guesstimate over asset sales, no analysis on GST rise impacts etc etc
      Colleagues in Oz are just flummoxed that our MSM can’t do basic maths, they’d be hung over there with this kind of bookeeping.
      But hey isn’t it nice to be able to give yourself 8/10 and fob off those annoying ‘numbers’ as irrelevant.

  5. Draco T Bastard 5

    “The certainty that this guaranteed funding stream provides means we can proceed with confidence in developing and delivering these and other major projects which will enable economic growth and provide safer journeys for New Zealanders.”

    Ha, that’s funny. the amount of driving is already decreasing due to the price of fuel and this tax increase will decrease it even more meaning that those projects won’t be paid for by the rise in taxes.

  6. burt 6

    Labour campaigning against a tax hike – sheeesh… This two party system serves the politicians and their desire to play musical chairs…. but what about the voters – the tax payers – the people of NZ ….

    Lets get this out for debate – is tax hikes to raise revenue a good or a bad thing or is it more simple than that – It’s good when Labour do it and bad when National do it… But tax cuts are also bad when National do it … Is status quo as defined by the actions of the last Labour govt the only acceptable situation to people so dim they follow a flag colour rather than a policy or principle ?

    • vto 6.1

      You seem to have all the answers today so perhaps you can answer this unanswered question.

      Given that Northland’s permanent population is relatively static and that Northland’s economic growth is static, who or what is the Holiday Highway meant to serve?

      • vto 6.1.1

        hello? burt? got an answer? or just stupid comments like the one below?

        • burt 6.1.1.1

          I don’t see the relevance – I was addressing the partisan nature of support for (or campaign against) tax hikes. I’m sorry if you can’t find a reasonable position on this debate although being a partisan flag follower I’m not surprised you are not prepared to state your position when Labour ALSO seem to only be able to oppose what would typically be their own policiy direction rather than lead with a coherent policy position of their own. 

          • vto 6.1.1.1.1

            burt, have a look at my hisotory of commenting on each of labour and the nats. You don’t know what you are talking about.

            And you don’t see the relevance of this question “Given that Northland’s permanent population is relatively static and that Northland’s economic growth is static, who or what is the Holiday Highway meant to serve?” when the thread is entirely about putting up roading taxes?

            You’re useless.

            • Polish Pride 6.1.1.1.1.1

              Actually he raised a very good point but because you couldn’t think of a decent response you instead attack him for his post and call him useless, instead of addressing the question he has posed….. The answer by the way is – ‘It depends on what the rise in tax is to pay for regardless of whether it is National or Labour’ followed perhaps by your personal view on ‘the tax hike for ‘Roads of national significance’.
              Would you object if the hike was to improve roads, increase passing lanes and most importantly put on place median barriers to eliminate head on collisions and save lives?

              • vto

                Polish pride, I attacked him because he couldn’t see the relevance of questioning one of the country’s most expensive roads which has, by the government’s own measures, no benefit except for holiday-makers, during a thread about increasing roading taxes. That useless road is being paid for by roading taxes – the subject of the thread. That he cannot see the relevance is useless. (btw, the “attack” word “useless” has to be about the most mild in the world)

                Sure, labour and national are both as bad as each other when it comes to taxes, but the point was about the use this is to be put to, which Bill English has said is to keep their promise re surplus and to put towards these roads.

                pretty simple.

                As for this “Would you object if the hike was to improve roads, increase passing lanes and most importantly put on place median barriers to eliminate head on collisions and save lives?”

                Yes I would. The reason is this government’s allocation of taxes. This government is putting $400million to private business in Canterbury. It loans $35million to Mediaworks, Stephen Joyce’s previous business. It put $1,700 million into South Canterbury Finance when it should not have even been in the scheme.

                Quite frankly, each of those items should come after roads have been improved, passing lanes increased and most importantly put in median barriers to eliminate head-on collisions and save lives.

                Polish Pride do you actually think spending money on private business like Canterbury farming, Mediaworks and South Canterbury Finance is more important than saving the lives of children on the roads?

                • Polish Pride

                  You get no opposition from me that the governments allocation of taxes is bs and self serving.

                  Useless – to be of no use at all …..yet he has like everyone a vote should he choose to exercise it and unlike me.. I am sure he will…

          • ColonialPete 6.1.1.1.2

            Consumption taxes are in no way progressive and do not serve the purpose of redistributing wealth from the rich to the poorer in society through the provision of government services. This kind of tax is regressive in that it sucks up a greater proportion of the income of the poor and the lower middle class, while the harm on the wallets of the rich is barely noticeable.  A progressive tax system places the burden more on those who have the wherewithal to afford it. So, for example a road user charge on vehicles over 3.5 tonnes – commercial vehicles – would be a better way to pay for this than a fuel tax on a harried solo mum doing the school run. 

        • Populuxe1 6.1.1.2

          Well at a guess I’d say that encouraging internal tourism to the picturesque but difficult to get to far north might actually make its economy less static, and indeed offer opportunities for growth and employment. But then again I might just be a “queer cunt”, so what would I know…
           

          • vto 6.1.1.2.1

            Well, the Nat’s own studies apparently say that those benefits which you mention do not actually measure up.

            So I will ask it again, who or what is the Holiday Highway meant to serve?

            And yep pop, you could well be just a queer cunt, lotsa people are. Wouldn’t worry about it if I were you though, it is almost a term of endearment for some.

          • felixviper 6.1.1.2.2

            You’ve always struck me as a bit of an odd character Pop.

          • Matthew 6.1.1.2.3

            a four lane highway between Puhoi & Wellsford will do nothing for tourism in Northland, & combined with the added tx on fuel, could even see it go down.

          • bad12 6.1.1.2.4

            For you i pick option 2…

    • Draco T Bastard 6.2

      Raising taxes for things that are good (hospitals, feeding children etc, etc) is good, raising taxes for things that are bad (Nationals RoNs, increasing GST so that the rich can have tax cuts, etc, etc) is bad.
      There, I think that’s simple enough even for you to understanf burt.

    • felixviper 6.3

      National campaigned hard for at least six years on cutting taxes burt, but they’ve been raising them since they got into office.
       
      Sure, they took a few cents off the top income rate, but up goes the GST straight away. And look at all the other levies and surcharges and fees they’ve raised. Registered your car lately? 

    • QoTViper 6.4

      Burt, you’ve been around here long enough to know that IrishBill’s opinion =/= Labour Party policy statements.
       
      More’s the pity.

    • Mike 6.5

      Tax hikes to raise government revenue are not a bad thing, if they are the right kind of tax hikes. Raising consumption taxes always hurt the poor and those on low incomes far more than they hurt everyone else. This is because consumption taxes on essentials form a far larger percentage of a poor persons income than that of a wealthy person.

      Regardless, we live under the ‘illusion of democracy’, having been brainwashed into believing that voting for a different party to govern actually really changes anything. Just another example of divide and conquer working perfectly. Give the masses 2 sides to vote for and call it democracy, they’ll be so busy fighting amongst themselves over petty political differences that they won’t notice what’s really being done to the world.

      “Capital must protect itself in every possible way, both by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through process of law, the common people lose their homes, they will become more docile and more easily governed through the strong arm of the government applied by a central power of wealth under leading financiers.

      These truths are well known among our principal men, who are now engaged in forming an imperialism to govern the world. By dividing the voter through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting for questions of no importance. It is thus, by discrete action, we can secure for ourselves that which has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished.”

      - Montagu Norman, Governor of The Bank Of England, addressing the United States Bankers’ Association, New York, 1924.

      I think Mark Twain is credited with the quote “If voting made a difference, they wouldn’t let us do it.” He was right.

  7. Daz 7

    From the title I thought this would about people on benefits having kids……..

    • IrishBill 7.1

      Because children are a folly? Fuck off misanthrope.

      • Daz 7.1.1

        Folly
        1 Lack of good sense; foolishness: “an act of sheer folly”.
        2 A foolish act, idea, or practice: “the follies of youth”.
        Having children when you can’t afford to provide for them fits with this quite well I think.
        My comment was made my tongue firmly in my cheek fwiw.
        I had thought that calling this place a hate blog was a bit of an exaggeration on whaleoils behalf but after the rather unpleasant and over the top responses I am starting to think that he may just be right (in terms of comments at least)

        IrishBill: if you don’t like it, don’t comment. The last thing we need here is another spineless rightie having a wee cry.

        • onsos 7.1.1.1

          Your comment about having your tongue in your cheek is bullshit.
          You have expressed that people who choose to have kids are foolish. Tell me what the other options are when people find themselves pregnant, and get off your high horse.

          • Daz 7.1.1.1.1

            Step 1, Don’t find yourself pregnant – plan when to, we have the science/technology to control it now and much of it is subsidised.
            There is no Step 2.

            To be clear since some people don’t seem to be getting it:
            I was saying that when people who are on a benefit get pregnant and have a baby other people have to pay for that baby, because the people in question are on a benefit and need the assistance it is a folly to have a child.
            The folly is having a child you can’t support.
            I was not saying having children in general is a folly.
            Clear enough?

            I assure you that it was tongue in cheek (the right one) but maybe I was expecting to much for people to follow my train of thought and see it as potentially being a headline for an article having a go at “dole bludgers”
            I would apologise for expecting to much but it really isn’t my fault if people are dense.

            • One Tāne Viper 7.1.1.1.1.1

              [citation(s) needed]
               
               

              • Daz

                For what exactly? I haven’t quoted anybody or presented any statistics or anything, merely laid out my reasoning.

                • QoTViper

                  For starters, you could point us to this magical world where sex education is comprehensive, doctor’s appointments are free, contraception is infallible and abortion is easily accessible.  Seriously, I’d love to visit that fairyland.

                  • Daz

                    Nice list of statements I didn’t make.
                    I’ll repeat that for the thicker commentors
                    Nice list of statements I didn’t make.
                    I’ll address them anyway

                    Pretty good sex ed in NZ but irrelevent since I wasn’t talking about kids since they shouldn’t be on a benefit (barring extraordinary circumstances)

                    As for doctors appointments, heres a citation for something I didn’t even say http://www.familyplanning.org.nz/our_clinics/clinic_fees
                    Pretty cheap when they aren’t free. I believe there was also a proposal for free longterm contraception for beneficiaries that the left had a collective shit fit about.

                    5 seconds of googling gets this on contraception http://www.contraceptivetechnology.org/CTFailureTable.pdf
                    Pretty decent levels of effectiveness there

                    As for abortion access – don’t know, never needed it and we are close enough to our PLANNED parenthood that we could afford to have a baby now if the methods of contraception that we have been using successfully for years failed.

                    I never proposed an alteration of the laws around benefits or the having of babies but you seem ready to go very in depth into a one line comment, maybe if you poured some of that scorn on the absolute failures that the left has for political parties at the moment then you could win the next election. Face it national have done so well because they are good but because labour is so fucking useless.

                    • Te Reo Viper

                      So much anger, Daz. Do you fear the next government that much? Still, always good to hear from someone with a vitriolic contempt for the less well off in NZ, reminds me why I’m a lefty.

                    • onsos

                      Don’t find yourself pregnant – plan when to, we have the science/technology to control it now and much of it is subsidised.
                      Who do you mean by “we”? I have this access. Middle-class and educated, went to a liberal school with good sex-ed, and work in health promotion. I know what works, and where resources are. I presume you do, too.
                      The interesting question is who doesn’t have this access, because of religious conservatism and educational failure, because of logistical and financial pressure. They don’t have the science/technology you are talking about.
                      Moreover, imposing that technology is morally abhorrent.
                      That’s where you need to substantiate your claims.

                • McFliper

                  [facepalm]

        • onsos 7.1.1.2

          Wow. A tax grab because they can’t balance the books like they promised they would.

        • Daz 7.1.1.3

          Somebody is upset at losing their lucky charms :(
          Don’t worry I can take all the childish abuse you throw at people who seem to have a different view point from you or make a joke about what type of article a headline would have following it on right-wing blog. Enjoy your life full of hatred :)

          • One Tāne Viper 7.1.1.3.1

            “…make a joke…” the stock-in-trade excuse of the bigot. 
             
            I can’t be bothered destroying the assumptions in your initial statement: if you’re naive enough to believe your “argument” rests on any thing but quicksand more fool you, but you should know that your “having children you can’t afford” meme is bogus, a zombie argument that was debunked years ago, but just keep moaning and shuffling and eating right-wing brains. 
             
            What is it about you people that you’re so easily lied to?

            • Daz 7.1.1.3.1.1

              Pointing out how the same title could be used by both sides of the politcal spectrum in reference to different things by using a play on words is a joke. (not necessarily a good one)
              Implying that you must be of inferior intellect due to your race/gender/sexual preferences is being a bigot/racist/sexist.
              Calling people a bigot/racist/sexist instead of telling them why they are wrong is laziness (or stupidity if you’ve got nothing else to say and are trying to cover for it).

              • One Tāne Viper

                It’s laziness, and boredom. I’m bored of doing it – hence the reference to “zombie argument” – and you’re too bloody lazy to do a little elementary fact checking.

            • Polish Pride 7.1.1.3.1.2

              Actually OTV he is bang on You seem like an intelligent guy who could make your points quite articulately and without the insults and negativity. Your approach is more likely to switch people off instead of having them reconsider their position.. You could change it but then I get the impression you’d prefer to deal out negativity. I hope I am wrong.

              • One Tāne Viper

                Your approach is more likely to switch people off instead of having them reconsider their position..

                Several facts argue against this. Firstly, confirmation bias causes people to cling even harder to false beliefs when facts contradict them. Secondly, studies show that right wingers lack the cognitive ability to recognise their own incompetence. Thirdly, that for people of low intelligence, emotive arguments have more impact that factual ones.

                Hence my question: “why are you people so easily lied to?”

        • McFliper 7.1.1.4

          Folly
          5 A popular name for any costly structure considered to have shown folly in the builder

          Personally, arguing that some children shouldn’t exist seems to me to be pretty hateful. But whatever.
           

      • Polish Pride 7.1.2

        Folly
        1 Lack of good sense; foolishness: “an act of sheer folly”.
        2 A foolish act, idea, or practice: “the follies of youth”.
        Having children when you can’t afford to provide for them fits with this quite well I think.
        My comment was made my tongue firmly in my cheek fwiw.
        I had thought that calling this place a hate blog was a bit of an exaggeration on whaleoils behalf but after the rather unpleasant and over the top responses I am starting to think that he may just be right (in terms of comments at least)

        IrishBill: if you don’t like it, don’t comment. The last thing we need here is another spineless rightie having a wee cry.

        Really!?! I would have thought that what would have been good is more considerate and intelligent minds that despite being from different positions on the political spectrum could add to intelligent debate and come up with solutions to fix the problems that we currently face…without flinging insults.
        I thought he was (arguably) doing exactly that.
        Or do you seriously believe that all will be fixed once Labour is back in power….

    • Schlurps McGoo 7.2

      Disgusting comment. What moves you to type that shit?

  8. vto 8

    Didn’t the Nats come in on reducing taxes? And isn’t that what they did when they first got into power?

    So why are they putting the taxes up again? Are their policies failing again?

  9. Bill 9

    While acknowledging the hypocrisy of this government hiking taxes, I have to say I think that 3c is woefully inadequate. (That’s aside from the fact that the shit it’s going to fund is just plain wrong.) I’d far rather see ongoing $1 per liter increases channeled into a rapid development/expansion of non-petroleum public transport infrastructure.

  10. vto 10

    I am going to walk absolutely everywhere now. The government can go fuck itself.

  11. the pigman 11

    Like GST, petrol is an area that affects those within all income brackets, especially commuters driving from increasingly far distances to work due to urban sprawl, unaffordable housing and less-than-mediocre public transport options.

    That is the principled reason for Labour opposing the hike. I thought that would be pretty obvious to people like burt, but apparently not.

    Then again, I suspect the attempt to reduce the debate to simple binaries of “National dislike tax, Labour love it, so why are they complaining?” is just tory spin designed to distract from the unprincipled nature of this tax hike.

  12. indiana 12

    This is a consumption tax – the more you buy , the more tax you pay. If you can manage your consumption, the tax increase will be marginal. At least with this tax hike, you get the revenue straight away unlike a CGT that takes 15 plus years to materialise.

    • Napkins 12.1

      But consumption taxes are almost always regressive. They broadly and severely hit those on lower incomes who have to consume most of their income just in day to day living expenses.
      They broadly miss those whose income is so high that most of their income is saved or invested in property or shares, not spent on day to day consumption for survival.

    • Mike 12.2

      FFS! How many times do people like yourself have to have explained to you why increasing consumption taxes on essentials is extremely unfair towards those on lower incomes who can least afford any tax increases?

  13. It all represents what disastrous managers of the economy they are.
    Key can give $600 grand of tax payers money to the Hill golf classic,while cutting
    crucial social services, rape centres,budgeting advice centres and others.
    Key can give tax cuts to the top earners, so they can have more holidays and buy luxury
    boats,cars and property,the tax take shows the tax cuts are not filtering back into the
    economy, that plan failed.
    Key can give $14 billion to roads of ‘their national importance’ but can’t grasp that
    child poverty is real and needs attention,right now,not in 2-4yrs time.
    People needing food grants from winz have got to bare their souls and almost beg,while
    having to show and prove what they spend their yearly $10-$12 grand on,dispicable.
    How much tax payers money went to the yachting cup? a huge packet from memory.
    How much has been wasted on getting advice from Goldman Sach’s and others, the same
    crowd in charge of the partial sale of our assets,nz’s tax payer assets.
    If Key came here to wreck the nz economy,it’s obvious he is on the right track.
    Can nz afford another 2yrs of Keynesia,Blinglish?, absolutely,positively,not.

  14. indiana 14

    “How much tax payers money went to the yachting cup? a huge packet from memory.”

    Trevor will tell you that was one of his finest investments ever on behalf of all New Zealanders!

  15. ColonialPete 15

    This also happens shortly after the student loan repayment rate increases to 12% and the minimum Kiwisaver contribution goes up to 3%.

  16. bad12 16

    So, Slippery and His Minister of Finance think that ‘the books’ will be balanced in 2014/2015 by rack raising petrol taxes,

    English like Rowan Atkinson in Mister Bean has made an art form from out-right idiocy, in Atkinson’s case tho there is at times genuine humor in the practice of this art which sadly for English is entirely lacking,

    The Mister Bean of New Zealand having foisted a very sick and un-funny joke upon New Zealand, (along with His ‘National wont be raising GST mate Slippery),with tax cuts for those who least need them have now found that despite rack raising consumer taxes the hole in the Governments revenue stream steadfastly continues to grow,

    Mister Bean in His Bill English guise glibly told reporters today that ‘petrol taxes’ will fill this hole and give the Governments accounts a surplus by 2014/2015, having made the claim in all the previous years after the tax cuts fiasco English should not be believed and this consumption tax will simply do to the Government deficit what raising GST and other consumer tax rack raising’s like those upon tobacco products did,

    The plan is,with raising the petrol tax to gain through taxation another 500 million dollars for the Government, unfortunately while the mechanics of this can be demonstrated against current usage of the product being taxed as the un-thought of consequences of such taxation have obviously not been taken into account there is in fact no way that English will balance those books by such means,

    In simple terms, part of that expected taxation will not be collected as those with the least disposable income severely cut their use of the product,in this case petrol while further up the income ladder many will also cut their use of the product,

    As such taxation effects those with the least income the most, to in effect pay the tax via use of the product those with the least income MUST spend less in other areas of the economy, should the 40% on the lowest income continue to use the product at it’s present level of consumption then it is a ‘Given” that they must stop spending their share of that 500 million in extra taxation in other parts of the economy,

    Take as a given that should that 40% of taxation be accrued to the Government then the deflation of spending in the local economy from those who have little disposable income will amount to 200-250 million, the cost of this will tell in further job losses in the local economy where any gains from petrol taxation will be more than wiped out in less GST and taxes from profit, taxes on income and a further increase in unemployment numbers of an estimated 5000…

  17. BM 17

    More than happy to pay a bit of extra tax to sort out the roads.
    The savings in fossil fuels and the decrease in pollution well and truly offset the extra cost.

    • McFliper 17.1

      Indeed. I’d just love it to be on the roads more travelled, not the roads less travelled. Truckies have the RUC to pay for their roads.

      • BM 17.1.1

        In Hamilton they’re finally getting the ring road sorted, It will save an immense amount of time and save people heaps.You may not realise but the internal combustion engine is at it’s least efficient when idling, you want to keep people moving not stuck in traffic jams.
        Labour should be right behind this.

        • McFliper 17.1.1.1

          Relevant to RoNS how?

        • gnomic 17.1.1.2

          This is just so nonsensical it’s hard to know where to start. Would it not be true to say that the ring road was planned decades ago by local government, despite the efforts of the smirking weasel and the local deadbeat MPs to take the credit currently? And given that Hamilton’s traffic congestion problems are fairly trivial what is the return on investment? As for Labour, somewhat to their shame, they did throw large amounts of money into roading in the electoral auctions towards the end of their last term in office, in the futile quest for that ideal state where all happy motorists can drive everywhere at all times without having to wait. Now the weasel and cohorts are bribing local government to push the wondrous ring road through earlier than planned somewhat to the consternation of council planners, because it will stuff things up and result in (gasp!) congestion. But the current regime must hang on to those Hamilton seats at almost any cost. Hell, we’ll even spend money we haven’t got to that end.

    • felixviper 17.2

      I imagine you’re also more than happy to pay a bit of extra tax to ensure that no-one in our society is hungry, homeless, or unable to get whatever help they need to be safe, warm and healthy.
      The savings in health and the decrease in crime well and truly offset the extra cost.

      • BM 17.2.1

        No, I think our social welfare policy is generous enough as it is.
         

        • felixviper 17.2.1.1

          Of course you do, the real problem facing our nation is that some of the roads aren’t quite wide enough.
           
          ps it’s not generosity. It’s not charity. There’s a price attached to having a fucking society that everyone can afford to live in.

          • BM 17.2.1.1.1

            Get bennies out cleaning gullies ,planting up riparian strips, doing work that makes NZ a better place.Then I might be a bit more enthusiastic about increasing  social welfare payments.Sitting on your chuff all day not so much.

            • Napkins 17.2.1.1.1.1

              A few thousand new public works jobs then.

              • BM

                Nothing wrong with taskforce green.
                Get beneficiaries out working 2 days a week,they’ll feel better contributing to the country and tax payers won’t be so grizzly about paying tax towards social welfare.

                • vto

                  I’ll be happy when the minimum wage pays enough for a man and his family to live on instead of the fucking less-than-it-cost-to-keep-a-slave wages paid now by a whole bunch of fucking arseholes in New Zealand who keep voting for the National party.

                  • BM

                    Damn those National voting arseholes.
                    Damn their eyes,damn their britches

                    • gnomic

                      Yes, well let’s look at the record.
                      Holland – nasty piece of work. Not exactly a democrat, and an enemy of the working class when there was still one in New Zealand.
                      Holyoake – pompous sounding but asleep at the wheel while the country was still on the sheep’s back. Slavish foreign policy.
                      Muldoon – why didn’t the party commit suicide in shame over that episode? Spineless worms. It took Bob Jones to get rid of NZ’s Mussolini. The bag of pus as I once heard Mallard call him in Parliament. Not in Hansard probably.
                      Bolger and the dynamic duo of Richardson and Shipley. The decent society. Yeah right. More hypocrisy from the party of hypocrisy. Aided and abetted by such would-be luminaries as Roger Kerr and Rod Deane.
                      And now the current crew, with focus group aid from the great Lord Ashcroft and Crosby Textor. Key, English, Joyce. Pass the sickbag. Key’s political hero Muldoon. Who knows what inspires the other two? The Pope? Greed and arrogance?
                       
                       
                       

                • NoseViper (The Nose knows)

                  Bm
                  Very sensible having pep jobs and task force green, some pollies turned up their noses at those programs because in their wisdom, doing manual work isn’t a ‘job’.   Someone was going to set up first world tech jobs and we should all be ready for the cargo cult of prosperity that would come next year when the jobs landed.
                  But a more contentious employment and social support problem is that of the growing number of oldies who are still spritely and who should be required to put in time at something helpful for the country every year.  Either some hours a week, or seasonal work they are still able to do or something.
                  It is a really bad outlook by supposed intelligent and mature people that they seize on every chirpy commentator with a social work diploma who insists that the country can afford to allow people the luxury of being paid welfare when they have stopped contributing to the community.  
                   
                  That’s not an example of a caring community, which provides mutual support.   Yet the community is expected to pay for their medical bills so they can live longer, more to 100 years, something once very rare.  And objectivity is required here.  I am over 70 myself, and am well aware of the attitudes of the different social strata and age groups in Nz.

                • felixviper

                  Now you’re talking BM. We’ll make a Green voter out of you yet.

            • Mike 17.2.1.1.1.2

              That would cost alot as you would have to pay them at least the minimum wage. I’m sure most on the unemployment benefit would be happy to do this. However the unemployment benefit is only a very small percentage of total welfare spend and the number of people on the unemployment benefit is only a small percentage of total persons receiving benefits. (Think working for families, state pension, etc)
              Closing tax loopholes and forcing corporations to pay their fair share of tax would be a much better way of increasing government revenue.

        • vivaciousviper 17.2.1.2

          BM, i hope that by any strange twist of fate, you dont have to survive on a benefit,
          could you manage on $12-$14 grand a year ?

  18. NoseViper (The Nose knows) 18

    Ken Shirley has just damned cross subsidisation of rail and said that roads are self-funded – Is that true? It’s all right with him about rise in petrol tax (I think diesel is going up too.)
    ( KS became chief executive of the Road Transport Forum when former National Party cabinet minister Tony Friedlander retires from the lobby group in July 2010.)

    Incidentally these notes on whos who by Frank Macskasy
    http://fmacskasy.wordpress.com/tag/ken-shirley/

  19. NoseViper (The Nose knows) 19

    Great shots of NZ past. Is it a test to see how many we can identify.

  20. Craig Glen viper 20

    To make matters worse MPs get a pay rise cos they are struggling you understand, and Teachers are being offered one percent. Hone says its not deserved but Shearer er arrgh its not up to me to say what I should get paid! What a bloody joke he is, this clown has to go.

  21. Tiresias 21

    I heard Bill English on “PM” explaining that the fuel-tax increase was a result of the Government not been afraid to take the tough decisions to balance the books even with a fall in tax income resulting from a fading economy, and the vacant Mary Wilson failing to point out that it would not have been necessary had National not cut taxes for the wealthy – and themselves – almost as the first thing on getting the Treasury benches.

    Cut taxes for the wealthy and recover it from everyone. Sounds like socialism to me.

    • NoseViper (The Nose knows) 21.1

      Tiresias
      Give Mary Wilson a break.  She’s quite an attack dog.  She may already have covered the bit about tax cuts for the wealthy, she wants to hear what Blenglish has to say now.

  22. tsmithfield 22

    So if petrol taxes to pay for roads is so bad, why has Labour been so keen on them?

    • bad12 22.1

      The rack raising of petrol taxes as announced yesterday isn’t tho specifically to pay for roading, as English says,”they will help the Government get back into surplus by 2014/2015”, unquote,
       
      It won’t of course, close the gaping hole that has been apparent in the Governments revenue from taxation since the GST raise/tax cuts for the wealthy stupidity of 2008/2009 that is,
       
      It’s a consumer tax, as such there is going to be a drop in consumption of the product as people stop making use of their cars as a tool for pleasure across the spectrum of those who the Government intends to collect these extra taxes from,
       
      Of course there will be no choice in this for the bottom 40% of income earners, having no discretionary income that 40% of consumers should they keep to their current usage of petrol products will have to stop spending in other areas of the economy by the amount of that taxation,
       
      Should this occur,and, it’s a given that it will or the Government will not be collecting as much extra taxation from petrol products as it calculates, then, while collecting the extra in petrol taxes the Government will lose the taxation from that bottom 40% of income earners having prior to the raising of the tax on petrol products spent that money elsewhere in the economy,
       
      There is a further price to pay for the Government inherent in having that bottom 40% of income earners shift spending from elsewhere in the economy to pay for the raised petrol taxes in that it then becomes a given that 200-250 million dollars annualy WILL NOT be spent into the local economy but instead will become a direct transfer to the Government,
       
      For the Government, this redirection of that 200-250 million dollars away from the local economy will directly result in a lowering of the tax income through less GST, less tax on profits, higher unemployment, so less PAYE collected and more dole payments to make,
       
      Don’t be surprised that as a result of this tax alone a conservative estimate of the unemployment generated in an already fragile economy will be 5000 and 18 months to 2 years from now the hole in the Governments revenue from taxation will not have closed but instead doubled…
       

  23. Rich 23

    Here in Wellington, I’d like to know why Labour and our allegedly “Green” mayor are still supporting various tunnel/flyover schemes at the Basin Reserve. Traffic’s falling, it’s never taken me more than 5 minutes to get through the tunnel/basin area and in any case Wellington has one of the quickest city/airport journey times in the world.

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    Mana | 13-08
  • New Zealand must help in the growing Iraq crisis
    The humanitarian crisis in Iraq looks certain to get worse before it gets better,” said David Shearer Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson. “New Zealand should urgently pledge increased humanitarian assistance to United Nations agencies and NGOs present on the ground....
    Labour | 13-08
  • Allegations of migrant worker rort should be investigated
    Labour is calling for an investigation into the alleged exploitation of workers at Hutt Railway workshops, hired to repair asbestos-riddled DL locomotives. Hutt South Labour MP Trevor Mallard has written to the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment asking that...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Medical and dentistry students get reprieve under Labour
    A Labour Government will restore the right of medical and dentistry students to get student loans after seven years of study because it is the right thing to do, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says. “Hard on the heels...
    Labour | 13-08
  • National must stop meddling with ACC before the election
    The redesign currently occurring at the Accident Claims Corporation (ACC) for sensitive claims needs to be put on hold immediately, said the Green Party today.The Green Party is concerned about work currently underway at ACC involving the sensitive claims service...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Markets slow but first home buyers still hurting
    First home buyers are hurting more than ever as the supply of affordable houses in the market dries up, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The Reserve Bank will be happy LVR minimum deposits and rising interest rates have dampened...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Green Party celebrates MOU win on contaminated sites
    The Green Party is celebrating the announcement of a national register of contaminated sites today, and $2.5 million to start cleaning two sites up. The Green Party and the National Party agreed to include toxic site management work in their...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Emergency staff at breaking point
    The Southern DHB is so cash-strapped it is failing to fill nursing rosters, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson David Clark says.  “Every day emergency department nurses arrive at work knowing they are likely to be carrying more than their recommended workload. ...
    Labour | 12-08
  • ACC minister fails in mission to change culture
    The latest damning report by the Auditor General shows that the ACC Minister has failed to fulfil her mission to fix the sick culture at ACC and real change will not come till a new Government is elected, the Green...
    Greens | 12-08
  • Labour’s regional development fund to support Palmerston North
    Labour will consider a proposal to develop an inland port at Palmerston North, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The Palmerston North community has developed plans for an inland port which will bring jobs and economic growth to a region which...
    Labour | 12-08
  • Green Party announces priorities for Christchurch
    The Green Party has today announced its plan for a fairer, smarter and more democratic Canterbury rebuild, with a focus on smart transport solutions, restoring local democracy, and keeping Christchurch's assets.The plan sits across all of the Green Party's priorities...
    Greens | 11-08
  • Rock-star economy unplugged by China log jam
    The collapse of log prices due to oversupply in China threatens to wash the gloss off what remains of National's so-called rock-star economy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “Already this year the price of milk solids has plunged by more...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Young job seekers dealt a poor hand
    National's "keep 'em poor" card for young people on a benefit is a sorry substitute for job training, Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Sue Moroney says.  The Government today announced it would extend its payment card scheme to all teen parents...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Labour – achieving change for Kiwi women
    Working towards being a world leader in eliminating violence against women and children will be a priority for a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Women’s Affairs policy today spokesperson Carol Beaumont said while Labour had a proud track record of achieving...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Accessible healthcare also affordable
      It is obvious from Tony Ryall’s hasty attack of Labour’s plans to extend free GP visits to older people that he hasn’t bothered to actually read the policy, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. "Mr Ryall’s response to Labour’s...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Full details of oil execs’ junket revealed
    Full details of a $237,000 taxpayer-funded oil executives' junket in 2011 have emerged.National paid the nearly quarter of a million dollars to wine and dine 11 oil executives in New Zealand during the World Cup.The trip included yachting, wine tasting,...
    Greens | 10-08
  • Nats sold 500 rugby fields of land a day offshore
    Under National over one million hectares of land has been approved for overseas sale – 16 times the size of Lake Taupō or the equivalent of five hundred rugby fields a day, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “According to...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Joyce’s dodgy sums fool no-one
    Steven Joyce's attempt to attack Labour's positive plan for affordable healthcare will fool no-one. "We knew that National would try to say that we can't afford free GP visits and prescriptions for the New Zealanders who need it. But, as...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Campaign Launch – Ready to Win
    Today I launched Labour's election campaign at the Viaduct Events Centre, Auckland. Here is the speech I gave....
    Labour | 10-08
  • Labour extends free GP visits, free prescriptions
    Nearly 40 per cent of Kiwis – or 1.7 million people – will be eligible for free doctors’ visits and free prescriptions under a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Last year more than half a million New Zealanders...
    Labour | 10-08
  • Labour promises a fairer ACC for all Kiwis
    Accident compensation for loss of potential earnings will rise under a Labour Government, while people not earning at the time of their accident will also be eligible for compensation, Labour’s ACC spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. Releasing Labour’s ACC policy today...
    Labour | 08-08
  • NZ Govt must push for fair play in Fiji elections
    The New Zealand Government needs to do more to push for human rights and media freedom in Fiji as it stages its first election since the 2006 coup, the Green Party said today.Amnesty International has released a report which documents...
    Greens | 07-08
  • Government’s Own Guidelines Show John Key Would Have Been Informed Of SIS...
    Analysis by Selwyn Manning. INFORMATION THAT I HAVE ACQUIRED, sourced from the State Services Commission, states in black and white the tight guideline requirements that must be followed whenever the SIS informs a Prime Minister of any pending release of...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Simply Not Credible: Dr Tucker’s “clarifications” are only making thi...
    THAT DR WARREN TUCKER, Director of the Security Intelligence Service in 2011, agreed to the release of politically sensitive material – thereby intervening in an on-going contretemps between the leaders of the National and Labour parties – without receiving the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: Evidence of Collusion between the NZ Herald and Imm...
    . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the Herald...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Dear Canon NZ – Malevolence should induce revulsion, it shouldn’t be ce...
    Giovanni Tiso’s analysis on Slater is possibly the best in NZ… It’s been a good week for some of us. A week of feeling vindicated, offeeling galvanised. Where it goes from here will depend on several factors, some of which are largely...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • 5AA Australia: After Dirty Politics Can National Provide Stable Government?
    AS WE ALL KNOW New Zealanders and Australians do not like political parties that are unstable, or can no longer assure us that they are able to provide stable government. And the big question for Kiwis as we prepare to...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • SIS letter means it’s over for Key
    It’s over. I may not agree with all of Phil Goff’s positions, but you can’t question his integrity the way Slater did in Dirty Politics and not be deeply concerned that our Secret Intelligence Agency is being used for political...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • who to vote for in Epsom
    who to vote for in Epsom...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • The Rise and Fall of John Key – who will be the next leader of National P...
    . . It was all set to go: Teamkey would be the cult of personality that would do Stalin, Mao, Reagan, Thatcher, or any of the Nth Korean Kim Dynasty, proud.  National and it’s “Teamkey” propaganda strategy   would cash-in Big Time...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Who said Kiwis couldn’t get a fire in their bellies over an arcane intern...
    An amazing team of activists has taken the campaign on the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) to local governments throughout the country. Their latest triumph came last Monday when the Dunedin City Council endorsed a resolution expressing concern about the TPPA...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National’s Dangerous Education Agenda Exposed
    Putting aside the dirty politics coming out of the Beehive and the right-wing blogisphere, there are some very strong signals that another term of a National Government would do even more serious damage to the public education system. The Education...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • We can have clean politics and get our democracy back.
    Something is rotten in our politics and it stinks. Dirty politics has sadly become one of the defining features of this election campaign. In the light of recent revelations about the extent of nasty and disingenuous political strategies, it would...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Book burning copies of Hager’s book? The next generation of National Part...
    It seems we are getting the next generation of National Party Dirty Politics now. There are claims the Young Nats in Hamilton are buying up copies of Dirty Politics and burning them. One witness was contacted by the Waikato Times...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National Party Poetry Day Haiku
    Key’s inbox and Cam’s poison most foul, there he blows hoist by own harpoon...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Why Cunliffe will be the next PM
    David Cunliffe will be the next Prime Minister of NZ. Labour’s inclusive and positive TV adverts… …are in stark contrast to National’s team of white people powering away from the rabble of the ‘others’… …the messaging is vital and crucial...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • From smiling assassin to grumpy butcher – on giving Judith Collins a last...
    After #dirtypolitics Key isn’t the smiling assassin, he is the grumpy butcher. When he said Judith had  a ‘last chance’ he meant 1 second after voting closes on 20th September. Key would love nothing more than to cut Collins loose and end...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • If the National Party rowing advert was real….
    If the National Party rowing advert was real there would be more blood in the water. If the National Party rowing advert was real it would be Cameron Slater calling the strokes. If the national Party rowing advert was real,...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Cameron Slater: Zionist and political pundit
    It is hard to know where to start with right-wing blogger Cameron Slater (Whale Oil), especially after the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics. This confirmed everything many of us thought Slater to be: a snivelling pundit who serves...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Bryce Edwards stood down from Herald for election season??? Are the editors...
    I only found this out via twitter last night and I am still in shock. Bryce Edwards, easily the best critical thinker and news analyst the NZ Herald has has been stood down by the NZ Herald ‘for the election...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • So who’s a “conspiracy theorist” now?!
    . . As the media storm over Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“,  and allegations over smear campaigns continue to swirl,  National’s spin doctors have given Key, Collins, and other National Party ministers a string of  phrases to use in all...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Momentum shift
    When you are deeply immersed in a local campaign sometimes it can be difficult to see the helicopter view.   I don’t know how accurate the political polls are and have always known that things can change quickly in politics...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Dear Toby Manhire. Bad call on backing Farrar
    Oh dear. I say this as someone who regards Toby Manhire as one of the smartest journalists/commentators/columnists this country has, and I think Toby has made a terribly dumb call here. Let’s see if Toby is still singing Farrar’s praises...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Radio NZ apologise to me for getting it wrong
    Radio NZ have contacted me, reviewed the claim by their host that I had an advance copy of Nicky Hager’s book and they have concluded they got it wrong, they have called me and apologised and will make a statement...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Reclaim UoA – Students’ Message to Steven Joyce
    Tertiary Education – we’ve been sold a lemon  A group of 30 students attended an event on Tuesday evening about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which the Minister of Tertiary Education Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Can someone in the media please ask the PM of NZ to categorically deny any ...
    Now we see the MO of Slater & Co, the setting up, the digging for dirt, the use of staff to dig that dirt, can the Prime Minister of NZ categorically deny any National Party staff worked with Cam Slater...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Panic setting in for National as they realise what’s about to happen
    And the terror starts to set in. I’ve never seen blind panic like this before  and it’s spreading as the enormity of what’s about to happen starts to sink in. Hager’s book is a mere entree, Nicky’s personal ethics wouldn’t...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics: what the book ultimately reveals is abuse of powe...
    Guide to the many faces of John Key Nicky’s book is now doing what I suspected it would do, create a shockwave of revulsion. Andrew Geddis over at Pundit Blog sums up this attitude best, and it’s reverberations build with every...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Fancy taking children seriously
    Let’s see why all political parties should pay close attention to the Green Party’s policy for children. First, it is a comprehensive attempt to put children, not ideology, at the heart of family policy. Wow, children at the heart of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Amnesty International: Dear Azerbaijan, Stop Torture, Love Kiwi Kids
    This is a world where many adults often underestimate Generation Y. Being only a few years out of being a teenager myself, I feel I can make this statement with certainty. However, I have been the Youth Intern at Amnesty...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GCSB meetings today in Christchurch 1pm at Uni 7pm at Cathedral
    The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. 1pm at Canterbury University bottom floor James Height Building: Chair: Bomber Bradbury Ruth Dyson – Labour Party...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about
    Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Guide to when Key is lying
    Guide to when Key is lying...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The State of the Student Nation …or is just Al...
    Students politics are dead and our student media is in terminal decline. The most disappointing thing about university is the politics, or should I say lack of? I was raised with the idea that students held the power.They were the...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Love Lifts Us Up: Thoughts from the Green Party’s campaign launch.
    Author Eleanor Catton wants people to give their party vote to the Greens.Photo by Peter Meecham NO ONE WAS QUITE SURE how he did it. Somehow Bob Harvey had persuaded the owners of the rights to Joe Cocker’s Up Where...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Test Stream
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    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • LIVE STREAM: You, Me and the GCSB ChCh Public Meetings
    LIVE STREAM EVENT here at 1pm & 7pm: The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. PLEASE NOTE: TDB recommends Chrome and Firefox...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today,
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • How @whaledump might destroy the popular vote for National
    Dirty Politics is now creating a meltdown and National are in danger of a total vote collapse. The real threat to for National was if Nicky had all the emails released via the anonymous hacker who took them. That danger is now a...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Open letter to Radio NZ – you need to make a retraction now
    I have just sent this off to Radio NZ right now Dear Radio NZ Firstly, what a great interview by Guyon Espiner this morning with the Prime Minister. Great to see such hard hitting journalism. Unfortunately I am not contacting...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Radio NZ are lying about me
    I am getting this all second hand at the moment as I don’t bother listening to Radio NZ (except for that wonderful Wallace Chapman in the weekends) but there is a claim that Suzie Ferguson just insinuated on Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Farrar’s fake claim of being invaded + Slater’s claims of death threats...
    The counter spin to avoid focus on the series allegations made in Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics continues. David Farrar’s ridiculous hysterics that he was invaded and his privacy has been blah blah blah has all been reduced from computer hacking to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • A shout out to the unsung heroes – our Public Service staff
    Government departments, particularly in the social welfare, education and health areas get a lot of shtick. And it’s not unjustified. We have problems in the way that our government departments treat those in need. And I do not intend to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Key’s ducking for cover – utterly unbelievable!!!
    .   . I don’t often re-print media stories verbatim – but this piece by Andrea Vance, for Fairfax Media,  deserves wider circulation. Please note the highlighted statements by Dear Leader as he ducks, weaves, obfuscates, and deflects any and...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Who is the source of Hager’s emails?
    Who is the source of Hager’s emails? Kim Dotcom has categorically denied he has anything to do with this and Nicky Hager has categorically denied that Kim was the source of the emails. Whatever you think about Kim (and he...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Dirty Politics – Audio+Text Why It Is Essential Raw Data Be Released Imme...
    MIL OSI – Source: RadioLive – Sunday Panel Analysis Headline: Dirty Politics – Audio Analysis by Selwyn Manning + Rodney Hide + Mark Sainsbury MIL Video: Selwyn Manning, Rodney Hide, and Mark Sainsbury discuss and debate the explosive details revealed...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • TV One and TV3 Political Polls – not such a landslide now
    Before the impact of Dirty Politics has been felt, the National Party high point in the Polls had been reached and their inevitable  drop begins. Despite the mainstream media telling NZers for almost 3 years that John Key would win...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – You will not believe Key’s defence of hackin...
    He actually used a sporting analogy. Can you believe it? John Key, asked on the fact that his staff had entered into a Labour Party computer and downloaded their database, Key replied, “It’s a bit like the Wallabies positing up their...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • A brief word on 100 Top political Tweeters
    The NZ Herald has put together a very useful list of top 100 political twtter accounts, what is most interesting from the lists is that the right wing all work hand in glove with each other where as the Left...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Are Whaleoil’s traffic stats a bloated illusion?
    Dim Post has done a critical analysis of just how real Cameron Slater’s traffic stats are. TDB has only been around for a year with a fragment of the digital footprint of the older blogs, yet we have managed to become...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Is Jordan Williams deceptive enough to blackma...
    There are so many issues raised by Nicky Hager’s book, that any one of them would be worthy of total focus on. Let’s chat about the claim in the book that Jordan Williams bragged to Slater and Lusk that he had...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics – Why ‘see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evi...
    This sign shows how National’s see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil denial isn’t working. National’s response to the book is that there is NOTHING in there that deserves anything more than the most briefest of eye motions. Key won’t...
    The Daily Blog | 16-08
  • Commissioner of Police v Kim Dotcom And Ors
    An order is made extending the duration of the registration of the restraining orders issued by the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia on 10 and 25 January 2012 and registered in New Zealand on 18...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Labour Announcement on Future of Hillside Workshops Welcome
    Labour leader David Cunliffe’s announcement in Dunedin today that a government led by his party would re-open Hillside Railway workshops was welcomed by the Rail and Maritime Transport Union (RMTU). ‘Since the workshops were shut down in late...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Primary teachers and principals vote to put kids first
    Teachers and principals have voted overwhelmingly against the Government’s controversial “Investing in Educational Success” policy, including proposed highly-paid principal and teacher roles....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunkett: Educating for Success
    In all the turmoil stirred up by the "Dirty Politics" revelations, the real issues that the campaign should be about have been put to one side....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Dirty Politics – Number One Bestseller and Back in Stores
    An exposé of the hidden side of New Zealand politics, Nicky Hager's book, Dirty Politics , has been in hot demand since its release last Wednesday....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Epsom: profiling NZ’s most controversial electorate
    Welcome to the wealthy inner Auckland electorate of Epsom: home of coat-tailing, the Tea Tapes, a convicted outgoing MP... and heavy newspaper and magazine readership....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Families Free From Violence campaign and website
    We are pleased to announce the launch of our Families Free From Violence campaign and our new Families Free From Violence website. This website has been created to encourage people to take responsibility for ending family violence by seeking help...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • PSA And DHBs Reach Settlement on Five Collective Agreements
    The 20 District Health Boards are pleased to reach settlement via mediation on five Multi Employer Collective Agreements (MECAs) with the Public Service Association for 12,000 mental and public health nurses, allied, public health and technical staff,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Refusal to complete census results in 46 convictions
    Failing to fill out a census form has resulted in the convictions of 46 people, Statistics New Zealand said today....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Council Amalgamations Still Bad Deal
    Northland, Bay of Plenty, and Wellington ratepayers should not be seduced into accepting the amalgamation of their Councils by a recent amendment to legislation allowing for local boards not community boards, Chris Leitch, Democrats for Social Credit...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • DHB industrial action withdrawn
    The Public Service Association (PSA) has withdrawn notices of industrial action covering 12,000 health workers at District Health Boards (DHBs) across New Zealand, after progress was made in mediation....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Aged Care Pledge Needs Better Target, Says Care Agency
    Labour’s pledge to set up an aged care working group to address industry concerns is good to see, but appears to skirt the obvious issue of a looming lack of beds and carers for our rapidly growing elderly population, says...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Social inequality still rife in New Zealand
    Social inequality has worsened over the past decade in New Zealand, a new study from Victoria University of Wellington shows....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Working towards a living wage and more Māori in paid work
    The Māori Party will build on the gains it has already achieved in Government and accelerate job opportunities particularly for young Māori....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Deepwater Group Supports Changes to Catch Limits
    The Deepwater Group says the increase in the Total Allowable Commercial Catch for hoki shows the benefits of a long term commitment to build biomass in this major New Zealand fishery....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Ohariu candidate Sean Fitzpatrick
    “Our Ohariu candidate will be Sean Fitzpatrick. Sean has strong ties to the region and I’m glad to hear he will be doing his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the area,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Tauranga candidate Stuart Pederson
    “Our Tauranga candidate will be Stuart Pedersen. Stuart has strong ties to Tauranga and I’m glad he has agreed to do his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the electorate,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party scores massive own goal
    Green Party scores massive own goal as their own policy auditor criticises their fiscal plan...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party’s own Auditor of their Budget finds it dodgy
    “The Alternative Budget released by the Green's does not even stack up in the eyes of their chosen auditor – Infometrics” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • New shark finning laws fall short for threatened species
    Environmental groups are welcoming some aspects of a raft of law changes announced today in relation to shark finning, but say that overall the chance for New Zealand to catch up with international efforts in shark conservation is being missed....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Promoting Labour’s Positive Policies
    General Secretary of the New Zealand Labour Party, Tim Barnett, today launched Labour’s television advertisements for the 2014 election. The advertisements help tell Labour’s positive story for a better New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug Court: Rare Insight into New Alternative Justice Model
    Māori Television’s latest New Zealand documentary presents a fascinating look inside a new alternative justice model – through the stories of convicted criminals....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Political parties pledge to increase overseas aid
    A survey of political parties looking at how much New Zealand should spend on Official Development Assistance (ODA) shows the overwhelming majority of parties are committed to raising the bar according to the Council for International Development (CID)....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Top Kiwis backing Tip the Scales campaign
    Sir Graham Henry, former All Black Kees Meeuws, singer-song writer Jamie McDell and fishing guru Matt Watson have pledged their support to Tip the Scales, a pre-election campaign generating public support for rebuilding New Zealand’s depleted inshore...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Maritime Union continues to press over dirty politics
    Maritime Union National President Garry Parsloe says Ports of Auckland management is trying to get off the hook from its involvement with extreme right wing bloggers during the Ports of Auckland dispute....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • No end in sight to overwhelming human cost of conflict
    Two ceasefires have brought some respite to civilians in Gaza and southern Israel, amid hope that a durable cessation of hostilities might occur. In Gaza, these breaks in the fighting have barely given people enough time to seek medical care,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Young Kiwi speakers to represent NZ at Gallipoli 2015
    The RSA is delighted at the announcement made by Veterans' Affairs Minister Michael Woodhouse today, that all eight regional finalists of the 2015 ANZ RSA Cyril Bassett VC Speech Competition will be included in a group of 25 Youth Ambassadors...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • “Bromance” Marriage Stunt Insulting Says LegaliseLove
    A promotional competition asking two best mates to get married in order to win an all-expenses-paid trip to the 2015 Rugby World Cup is insulting, marriage equality campaign LegaliseLove Aotearoa claims....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Cannabis Party first to register for 2014 General Election
    The Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party became the first party to register for the 2014 General Election today, when it meet with the Electoral Commission in Wellington at Midday....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • PGA: Addresses NZ’s ratification of Arms Trade Treaty
    President of Parliamentarians for Global Action and New Zealand MP Ross Robertson today addressed a celebration to mark New Zealand’s imminent ratification of the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), which is expected within the next few weeks....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Roy Morgan Poll August 20
    National (48%) holds its lead over Labour/ Greens (39%) as ‘Dirty Politics’ revelations provide a new challenge for PM John Key’s leadership. NZ First surge to 6.5% - highest support since September 2013....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • IGIS inquiry into release of NZSIS information
    The Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security (IGIS), Cheryl Gwyn, announced today that she would be instituting an inquiry concerning allegations that the New Zealand Security Intelligence Service (NZSIS) might have released official information...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Glen Scanlon to Head Digital Media at Radio New Zealand
    Radio New Zealand has announced the appointment of Glen Scanlon to the recently created position of head of digital media....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Israel’s Gaza ceasefire violations go unreported
    It seems that it is only ceasefire violations that emanate from the Palestinian side that ever get publicised....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug courier sentenced for importing heroin
    South African drug courier, Laura Elizabeth Cilliers, was sentenced today in the Christchurch District Court to 7 years and 10 months in prison for importing approximately 1.2 kilograms of heroin....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Residential Property Speculators Days Numbered
    Rent heat cools as homes are replaced ... Liz McDonald ... The Press http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/business/your-property/10400851/Rent-heat-cools-as-homes-are-replaced Comment on thread (in moderation) … Christchurch is a “severely unaffordable” City as the Annual Demographia Survey ( www.demographia.com ) illustrates … thanks...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Academic’s study shows need for a Ministry of Public Input
    A book by Associate Professor Jennifer Lees-Marshment recommends the creation of a Ministry of Public Input to collect, process and communicate the publics’ ideas to government. The University of Auckland’s political marketing expert says the...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Government inaction killing innocent motorists
    Innocent people are dying due to long delays in installing centre lane barriers on high risk roads, says an outspoken road safety campaigner....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Property revaluations for council rates must be reformed
    Opportunity to bring controls on rating value changes and more equitable level of annual rates increase...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Ron Mark Sets the Example
    The Taxpayers’ Union is welcoming the pledge by Mayor of Carterton and NZ First candidate Ron Mark who has announced he would relinquish his roles as Mayor and member of two District Health Boards if successfully elected to Parliament. Taxpayers’...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Ban 1080 Candidates announced for 2014 General Election
    MEDIA RELEASE: Angry rural communities want issue of 1080 aerial drops taken to the polls, says party co-leader Ban 1080 Candidates announced for 2014 General Election...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Governor General Gives Direction to Conduct Election
    The Governor General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, has given the green light for this year’s General Election....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • New Zealand Animal Groups Unite to Help
    WELLINGTON (19 Aug 2014) – The Be Cruelty-Free campaign to ban animal testing of cosmetics in New Zealand just got bigger and stronger, as two leading animal protection groups come on board. Joining forces with Humane Society International which has...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Students Interrupt Steven Joyce at University Event
    A group of 30 students this evening interrupted an event about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce began to speak, students interrupted with a speech of their own....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Caritas among first responders offering relief in Iraq
    As the plight of Iraqis fleeing persecution reaches tragic levels, Caritas Aotearoa New Zealand has pledged an initial $10,000 to support the work of Caritas in Iraq to provide humanitarian aid to thousands of families affected by the war and...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • iPredict 2014 Election Update #31: Nats take hit
    Election race narrows significantly · National party vote now below Labour/Greens · National’s probability of leading next government dips to 72% · Joyce expected to take over as National leader before end of 2015, as Collins’ prospects fall...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Call for applications – Fulbright scholar awards
    Fulbright New Zealand calls for applications to a range of scholar awards for New Zealand academics, artists and professionals to undertake academic and cultural exchanges to the United States of America. A Fulbright exchange provides life-changing opportunities...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • CWS launches appeal for Iraqis on World Humanitarian Day
    Christian World Service is appealing for help for tens of thousands of Iraqis caught up in one of the world’s horrifying conflicts....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Promoting the Voice of the Rangatahi
    Young Māori voters are seen by the Māori Party to have a vital part to play in saving the Māori seats in Parliament says the Māori Party’s youngest candidate, Reverend Te Hira Paenga. “What we’re hearing on the ground is...
    Scoop politics | 19-08
  • Nelson Election Candidates’ Community Forum
    Nelson’s community and volunteer sector has some serious questions to put to the local candidates in the run up to next month’s general election....
    Scoop politics | 19-08
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