Maori Party in terminal decline

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What a mess. The Maori Party is in its final phase as the vultures move in to fight over the corpse. Katene wants Turia’s job but will she be the one given the tap or will it be a member of the Turia clan? Flavell has made a play for Sharples’ job, but there’s no mechanism for deciding leadership battles. Harawira has offered a re-merger, something he has predicted since MANA was founded. Sharples is open to it, Turia isn’t but she wants Sharples gone. Key won’t work with Harawira.

Let’s face it, Harawira offers the Maori Party the only hope of a future it has. Only he can help it reclaim its natural place in the political spectrum and rebuild faith with working class Maori. But Turia will fight that right to the end. She wants to keep that limo seat.

Here’s my prediction: Turia’s replacement will be some unknown she can control. I doubt its Katene or she wouldn’t have broken cover to say she’s keen to have the job. The Party won’t insult someone of Sharples’ mana so much as to take the leadership off him if he still wants it. Flavell will probably choose to leave rather than waste his time, sparking a by-election that the Maori Party will lose to MANA’s Annette Sykes. So, the Maori Party goes into 2014 with an unknown, Sharples, and very little incentive for MANA to cut it a deal not to stand in each other’s seats when those seats are there for the taking.

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  1. marty mars 1
    24 January 2013 at 10:50 am

    How can Tariana sit on the limo seat if she has retired?

    My prediction is Katene will replace Turia. Flavell will take co-leadership with Sharples. The MP won’t merge with Mana. The MP will not win any seats in the next election. Oh and while I’m at it…

    key and shearer will both not be fighting the next election as the respective leaders of their centre parties.

  2. xtasy 2
    24 January 2013 at 12:00 pm

    The Maori Party generally more or less appears to be a “dead” or “dying” party now.

    Founded initially upon Tariana Turia leaving Labour, due to issues with their foreshore and seabed legislation, Sharples and others joined her to establish a party to seek redress from what Labour introduced into law, and a kind of “movement” was started.

    The downfall of the Maori Party clearly started by going into a support agreement with a National led government, and to somehow at least passively “agree” to a range of controversial policies, naturally also to amend the law affecting foreshore and seabed matters.

    But Maori Party members – repeatedly told by their elected MPs, that the agreement with Key and his National led government is good, necessary and will bring more benefits than being in opposition, have increasingly felt hood-winked.

    Harawira brought on the challenges that arose through working with National and its other support parties. An internal rift developed, and Harawira left (or was forced to leave), to form Mana.

    Mana is supposed to be a new, inclusive “Left Party”, but most know, it is primarily led and organised by and through Harawira and his closest supporters. Yet he always wishes to emphasize, that Mana stands for the rights of Mana PLUS others, e.g. Pakeha, negatively affected by bad right wing policies.

    Maori Party support has dropped and they will struggle to get voted back into Parliament, since Tariana has announced her retreat. Sharples is just too much of an old power loving hanger-on now, as one must seriously question his ability to influence the decisions of the government he supports, and is member of as a Minister. Flavell made a challenge, but Maori Party leaders are too scared now to see it through.

    Harawira made comments on National Radio this morning, basically admitting, that Mana is in a way the other Maori Party. He talked about working together, some form of alliance, or something in that direction. He also presented his interest as a “leader” for Maori interests.

    There was suddenly not much talk about inclusiveness and Mana being more than just an “alternative Maori Party”.

    Looking up their website tells you enough, how it is run and what the priority political emphasis and support base is:
    http://mana.net.nz/
    http://mana.net.nz/2013/01/is-mana-maori-a-possibility/
    http://mana.net.nz/kaupapa-vision/

    It appears to be an “inclusive” party so far, through some images and presentation, but when looking closer, it becomes clearer to me, that Mana is primarily a party established by Harawira as “independent” MP for Tai Tokerau, who appears to have seen a need to try and boost membership and support by allowing in Minto, Bradford and a few others, to establish a wider set of leading members. Yet in polls it still struggles to get above the 1 per cent rate.

    See also this newspaper article from the Northern Advocate:
    http://www.northernadvocate.co.nz/news/harawira-id-lead-maori-mana-party/1724449/

    So I feel, Harawira now has to come CLEAN, on what is ultimate mission is, where he stands, whether he really wants to be primarily a Maori leader, or to keep working on a more inclusive leftist party.

    My suspicions are, he wants to be the former, as that is what he feels more passionate about.

    Hence again, my conclusion is that not just is Labour in a situation where it is struggling to find a “new way” as a “left” or at least “left of centre” party, Mana is also about to fall to pieces, given Harawira’s newly revived true aspirations.

    Consequently, as the Greens are also not committed to be identified as “left” as such, or in principle, there is a TOTAL NEED and an ideal time now, to create and establish a NEW LEFT PARTY in NZ, that is truly left of centre and inclusive, not restircted to individual MPs or member’s interests and selected agendas.

    Maori Party will soon be “dead”, I would expect, at least no more than a party in a similar situation as ACT is in now.

    • fatty 2.1
      24 January 2013 at 12:25 pm

      So I feel, Harawira now has to come CLEAN, on what is ultimate mission is, where he stands, whether he really wants to be primarily a Maori leader, or to keep working on a more inclusive leftist party.

      Why does Mana have to be one or the other?

      there is a TOTAL NEED and an ideal time now, to create and establish a NEW LEFT PARTY in NZ, that is truly left of centre and inclusive, not restircted to individual MPs or member’s interests and selected agendas.

      If there was a left party created, what would you want their policies to be regarding Maori / Treaty?

      • McFlock 2.1.1
        24 January 2013 at 2:12 pm

        Probably similar to Mana.
        Just as the environmental policies would be similar to the Greens’.

        Neither of which are a broad left party.

        The difference is that between a narrow-focus party that adds policies (often after running them against the core focus first, and ditching left policies that might be inconsistent with the core focus), versus a “left” party that creates specific policies around a broader “left” perspective.

        • fatty 2.1.1.1
          24 January 2013 at 2:30 pm

          I’m not sure I understand…
          Has Mana compromised left policies?

          • McFlock 2.1.1.1.1
            24 January 2013 at 2:57 pm

            Let’s see.

            First policy on their website is Maori language.

            And no foreign or defense policies.

            Case rested.

            • fatty 2.1.1.1.1.1
              24 January 2013 at 3:05 pm

              First policy on their website is Maori language.

              How does using Te Reo compromise left policies?

              And no foreign or defense policies.

              foreign policy is here

              Not sure what you mean by defense policies…do you mean a return to our defense policies where we back the UK/USA and their wars?

              • McFlock …
                24 January 2013 at 3:19 pm

                Fair call on the FP (although it’s only a draft). Missed it on the main policy page and it’s kind’ve thin compared to e.g. Labour’s, but what the hey. And how does the Indigenous people’s “alternative constitution” idea interact with Fiji?
                NZAID?

                I’m not holding labour’s policy up as ideal in specifics, just in attention given to details rather than brush strokes that sound good.

                The language thing at the top illustrates their priorities quite nicely. How much space is devoted to Te Reo, and how much to Mana’s entire foreign policy?

                • fatty …
                  24 January 2013 at 3:41 pm

                  Perhaps NZ should get it’s fingers out of Fiji…is our relationship with them any different from USA to South America post 1970s?
                  NZAID is a form of neocolonialism, no need for that either. Mana’s foreign policy would do far more for the Global South, and the Pacific Islands, than a government funded, ethnocentric charity.

                  Mana is a minor party, so I think its unfair to judge them for having a ‘thin’ foreign policy.
                  Mana’s language focus should be encouraged. Kiwis should use both Te Reo and English. By putting language at the forefront, it puts culture before money, and is an example of what biculturalism should be…not our current neo-tribal biculturalism.
                  I see Mana’s ideology as promoting a new form of biculturalism, one that is not within a neoliberal paradigm.
                  Apparently we want a true Left party in NZ, but I’m yet to hear how it would differ from Mana

                  • McFlock …
                    24 January 2013 at 3:52 pm

                    Actually, NZAID was pretty good until the nats decided they wanted fp bang for their buck. That’s why they got rid of it. What overseas aid DO you support, or should we all just do nothing?

                    I did show you what was different: a Left party would have policies on those things and more. And it’s just as important for smaller parties to have well-rounded and deep policies, so we can see what it’s trying to compromise on to get cushy cabinet jobs.

                    But why isn’t housing at the top of the list? Workplace conditions? Unionisation? Health? Why is it Te Reo at the top of the list? Answer: because that’s their priority.

                    • fatty …
                      24 January 2013 at 4:37 pm

                      What overseas aid DO you support, or should we all just do nothing?

                      I support aid organisations that are not connected to governments, and ones that help people to keep their autonomy by resisting global capitalism. Very few NGOs to be honest. I see all forms of ‘development’ from the global north to the global south as very suspicious, especially alongside the usual suspects – WB, UN ect.

                      But why isn’t housing at the top of the list? Workplace conditions? Unionisation? Health? Why is it Te Reo at the top of the list? Answer: because that’s their priority.

                      Yes and no…Te Reo is at the top of their list, because its one of their main policies. See my comment below about their press releases.
                      For every one time that a Mana representative has promoted the introduction of Te Reo, I will show you 10 times a Mana representative has promoted housing/food as their primary concern.
                      Could probably do almost the same ratio for Treaty issues vs economic inequality.

                      But why isn’t housing at the top of the list? Workplace conditions? Unionisation? Health? Why is it Te Reo at the top of the list? Answer: because that’s their priority.

                      Don’t judge their focus on how their website is laid out.
                      Do a Google news search for Mana before this week (as the results will be saturated with the past 5 days). Search for their releases, sign up to their newsletter – you’ll see where their focus is.
                      Housing, employment, unions and health issues feature frequently.

                      Can you link me to anything where Hone is promoting Te Reo as their first focus?

                    • McFlock …
                      24 January 2013 at 4:48 pm

                      Private charities or just the UN then? piffle.

                      So the website bears no resemblance to their priorities.

                      Meh. Ok. That’s why I don’t support them, then. Untrustworthy.

                    • fatty …
                      24 January 2013 at 5:13 pm

                      Private charities or just the UN then? piffle.

                      No, any form of development by the UN should be questioned, not encouraged. And some private charities, not all.

                      So the website bears no resemblance to their priorities.

                      Nah, it resembles them. here’s the policy page: http://mana.net.nz/policy/
                      Te Reo, Treaty, health, livelihood (employment), economic, education, environment and energy, housing, wellbeing (welfare, violence etc), disability.

                      Do you dismiss them as a political party because they listed Te Reo first?

                      Meh. Ok. That’s why I don’t support them, then. Untrustworthy.

                      What did they promise, and then not deliver?..or what makes them untrustable?

                      If Mana had Te Reo was listed after education would they be more trustworthy?
                      Can you name one policy of Mana you would take out, and one you would put in?

                    • marty mars …
                      24 January 2013 at 10:26 pm

                      mcflock – I find the rationale that because te reo is first on the list that means that Mana isn’t left or trustworthy to be very weak indeed. It seems to me to be a smokescreen masking deep bullshit. I’d trust Mana for the ACTIONS they have taken not the words of you, no matter how much shit you’ve had to eat to make this country a nice place for yourself and your mates.

                      xtasy – now we know what you think you know and ho hum. Hone can’t represent his people and the country because… oh that’s right because he is indigenous and those things are mutually exclusive. It’s about time you accepted that without equality for tangata whenua there is no equality for anyone in the country whenever they turned up to live here.

                      Both of you imo are spinning rubbish because of what you are scared to lose and that mentality is what is wrong with this country and what is wrong with many of those who have come to live here. I don’t care if you support Mana or not – the movement is for those who want to make real change in our society, especially for the disadvantaged, who just happen to have an over representation of tangata whenua within their ranks.

                    • McFlock …
                      24 January 2013 at 10:48 pm

                      “scared to lose”?

                      lol
                      the party I actually support is the Alliance.

                      As for Mana actions, I don’t see much of them down here. Except, of course, Hone suggesting a merger with a Nact coalition partner.

                    • marty mars …
                      24 January 2013 at 10:56 pm

                      well dunners is a small place as we know perhaps look a bit wider, you know outside the ivory tower a bit.

                      Looking at the alliance website I notice that they put their “what we stand for”, “Alliance policies” in alphabetical order – oh dear arts and culture number one – what a letdown lol.

                    • marty mars …
                      24 January 2013 at 11:06 pm

                      Alliance Party Treaty of Waitangi Policy

                      Preamble

                      The Treaty of Waitangi is the basis for a genuine partnership between tangata whenua and the rest of the people of New Zealand. To this end, the Alliance will support and work with tangata whenua on initiatives in this area.

                      We stand for the following policies:

                      Redressing land and other grievances.

                      An accelerated Treaty settlement process with increased resources to the Waitangi Tribunal and related institutions.

                      Safe-guarding of Maori customary rights guaranteed under the Treaty.

                      The democratic organisation of Iwi and urban Maori to ensure all Maori benefit form land and other compensation gained under the Treaty settlement process.

                      Nurturing te reo as the “first” language of New Zealand by supporting kohanga reo, kura kaupapa and whare wananga, as well as Maori broadcasting, including television and radio.

                      Improved participation of Maori and access to health, education and social services.

                      http://alliance.org.nz/what-we-stand-for/alliance-policies/alliance-party-treaty-of-waitangi-policy/

                      Genuine partnership, The ‘first’ language – oops are you sure you support these nutters

                    • McFlock …
                      24 January 2013 at 11:11 pm

                      lol
                      “ivory tower”.

                      Yeah – say that to Hillside.

                    • marty mars …
                      24 January 2013 at 11:14 pm

                      yeah I thought you’d bite at that 🙂

                    • McFlock …
                      24 January 2013 at 11:17 pm

                      lol

                    • McFlock …
                      24 January 2013 at 11:23 pm

                      Did Mana actually issue a release about Hillside? Most other parties did. Even the Alliance.

                    • marty mars …
                      24 January 2013 at 11:28 pm

                      Not sure but will check. I’d be surprised if they didn’t but maybe that was around the time Hone was getting arrested for direct action in support of those disadvantaged losing their place to live.

                      I’ll come back to you tomorrow – got an early start in the morning.

                    • McFlock …
                      24 January 2013 at 11:37 pm

                      cool. It just wasn’t coming up on google. Wouldn’t be my first gFail, though 🙂

                    • xtasy …
                      25 January 2013 at 2:33 am

                      To Marty Mars:

                      “xtasy – now we know what you think you know and ho hum. Hone can’t represent his people and the country because… oh that’s right because he is indigenous and those things are mutually exclusive.”

                      This kind of misjudgment of criticism and attack is exactly what will turn too many people in NZ, Maori, Pakeha or migrants from wherever off, from voting for Mana and Hone’s team!

                      I did not raise questions about Hone and Mana, because of his ethnicity or being tangata whenua, I raised questions, because it was him, who did the last few days expose some bizarre sense of “opportunism” and excitement, saying Maori Party members had contacted him, to suggest he take over as leader.

                      Hone goes on public radio raising thoughts of merging with Maori Party, or forming an alliance of sorts, with him being the preferred leader of his party and MP.

                      Now, we know, what the Maori Party has stood for the last few years, and that many of their voters may just be conservative minded people like National voters are, or Labour voters are in some cases, and that MP is supporting National.

                      So when a leader of a supposedly “left” party starts flirting with conservative folk, of his cultural and ethnic background, to perhaps grab an opportunity to advance his personal aspirations, then there is good and justified reason to question where this would leave Mana!

                    • marty mars …
                      25 January 2013 at 7:42 am

                      x – you see opportunism but i see smart pragmatism totally in alignment with values and kaupapa. This is a time honoured technique for tangata whenua throughout history to lessen conflict and create the ability to move forward. There are many examples of this including enemies allowing relatives (often of both sides) to go to the besieged and permitting them to leave (albeit quietly) the killing grounds. This maintains mana and stops decimation and unnecessary death.

                      Sure, the approach is foreign to western ideals but it is valued within Maoridom.

                      I hope that answers the question and puts your fears to rest.

                    • vto …
                      25 January 2013 at 7:57 am

                      Marty mars “There are many examples of this including enemies allowing relatives (often of both sides) to go to the besieged and permitting them to leave (albeit quietly) the killing grounds. This maintains mana and stops decimation and unnecessary death.

                      Sure, the approach is foreign to western ideals but it is valued within Maoridom.”

                      That is not foreign to western ideals. I think you will find that it is common across most all cultures, with exceptions from time to time. Why would you think it is foreign?

                    • marty mars …
                      25 January 2013 at 8:18 am

                      sure vto – fairish point

                    • McFlock …
                      25 January 2013 at 1:16 pm

                      marty mars:

                      so did the broad left mana party with a nationwide focus say or do anything about the hillside redundancies? I still haven’t found anything, but that proves nowt.

                    • marty mars …
                      25 January 2013 at 1:35 pm

                      can’t find anything so I’d have to say that it looks like they didn’t issue a statement about that.

                      I did like the alliance’s statement – good job.

                      Pity the alliance supporters don’t add their expertise and obvious skills to help grow Mana. Often the MP is stated as the parent of Mana but there does appear to be a few alliance traits in there as well and not just Matt.

                      I have to say that I didn’t realise that the alliance were still going. I still think Sandra Lee was one of the best we have had in parliament and it was nice to see Mana Motuhake in the mix of parties that make/made up the alliance – perhaps it shows that it can be done if people want to do it.

                      Not really much evidence of this non-left Mana though imo.

                    • fatty …
                      25 January 2013 at 1:40 pm

                      so did the broad left mana party with a nationwide focus say or do anything about the hillside redundancies? I still haven’t found anything, but that proves nowt.

                      This was all I could find

                      Its a catch 22 situation. Mana is a small party with limited resources (that is why I don’t accept the argument that their policies are not as thorough as Labour’s).
                      Do you think Mana should have focused resources on Hillside, when it is quite clear that people from Dunedin are not receptive to the Mana party?
                      Same goes with Chch – where is Mana’s visibility there? I wish they were doing more in Chch, God knows we need them, but its a waste of limited resources.

                      While Minto was in Dunedin meeting with the Hillside workers, Minto also launched Mana in Dunedin that day…did you go to listen to Mana’s message?

                      So Mana went and talked to the Hillside workers, set up a launch event in Dunedin, and probably had almost nobody turn up (just a guess)…should Mana invest more time and money into the Hillside issue, or focus their attention on other companies being sent offshore?

                    • McFlock …
                      25 January 2013 at 2:13 pm

                      Didn’t go – work is a bitch sometimes.

                      Saw those though – yep, Mana reps visited Hillside during the election campaign. So did many others. Since then? zip.

                    • marty mars …
                      25 January 2013 at 3:04 pm

                      so because there wasn’t a press release about Hillside you think Mana doesn’t care about those workers – very weak indeed, just like your assertion that Mana is untrustworthy or not based around the principles of ‘left’. As I said upstream “deep bullshit” indeed.

                    • McFlock …
                      25 January 2013 at 3:17 pm

                      Doesn’t care enough to notice what happened and then upload a press release to scoop, anyway.

                      Fuck it. I’m in Otago. Why should I support someone who doesn’t even notice Otago exists (outside the election campaign of course)? And yes, a broad left party needs to have a nationwide focus, not just a North Island one.

                    • marty mars …
                      25 January 2013 at 7:08 pm

                      that shit below to fatty is terrible – you’ve lost it again and why – because your argument is useless and you know it – what a fucken wanker you are. Go save someone elses world bullshit artist.

                    • McFlock …
                      26 January 2013 at 6:42 pm

                      “save the world”?

                      Whatever.
                      Apparently I’m a racist because I don’t see Te Reo as the most pressing issue in NZ today. That is a rational argument to you?

                  • fatty …
                    25 January 2013 at 2:44 pm

                    Didn’t go – work is a bitch sometimes.

                    That’s a shame, they did have it from 5pm-8pm on a Friday. You’d be one of few people that work during those hours. Are you a bartender?

                    Saw those though – yep, Mana reps visited Hillside during the election campaign. So did many others. Since then? zip.

                    Yeah, zip. here is the reason why
                    Its been an enlightening discussion from you McFlock. You have come up with 2 critiques of Mana;
                    1 – Their policy overview begins with Te Reo
                    2 – They have not focused attention on Hillside

                    Surprisingly, your first critique is more logical than your second, but its a very eurocentric view that you should probably keep to yourself next time.
                    Anything else to add? (its an open question for you, I give up on asking you more direct questions as you ignore them time and time again)

                    • McFlock …
                      25 January 2013 at 3:10 pm

                      IT. I keep irregular hours. So much for recognising the diversity of the modern workforce. You might be on the piss on a friday night, but other things are going on, too.

                      Hillside was important enough, as both a large-scale redundancy from a government-owned enterprise AND an asset sale point of view, for pretty much every other non-government or active left-wing party to issue a release on. Even non-parliamentary ones.

                      Either Mana has an active branch in Dunedin and Otago is on its policy radar, or it made a tactical decision to ignore issues in an electorate where it has no support. You can’t have it both ways. Small party? Big deal. If it’s too small to even issue a 500 word press release about a major political issue in my town, why should I vote for it?

                      Their policy is not alphabetically-listed, which implies a hierarchy to their priorities. So yes, starting with language rather than food, housing employment or the environment DOES say something about their ability to represent me as a pakeha Dunedinite.

                      And no, I don’t see any reason to vote for someone to represent somebody else. At the very least it would be me using my vote to patronise other people who are perfectly capable of deciding whom would be their best representative. And the suggestion goes downhill from there. So you can take your implicit accusation of racism and go fuck yourself with it.

                    • fatty …
                      25 January 2013 at 4:31 pm

                      Either Mana has an active branch in Dunedin and Otago is on its policy radar, or it made a tactical decision to ignore issues in an electorate where it has no support. You can’t have it both ways.

                      I never said it had an active branch in Dunedin, I made it quite clear that I think Mana made a tactical decision to ignore an electorate that ignores Mana.

                      And no, I don’t see any reason to vote for someone to represent somebody else.

                      …said that National voter, the ACT voter…and McFlock.
                      Hillside was not major news in NZ sorry, its one of many companies that have outsourced and closed their doors.

                      Their policy is not alphabetically-listed, which implies a hierarchy to their priorities. So yes, starting with language rather than food, housing employment or the environment DOES say something about their ability to represent me as a pakeha Dunedinite…So you can take your implicit accusation of racism and go fuck yourself with it.

                      Oh dear…
                      Let me get this right, you don’t want them to put Te Reo first on their website because your identity is primarily defined as a Pakeha from a mostly Pakeha city?
                      I will stick with implicitly accusing you of racism, because you have appeared to have gone and fucked yourself with your comments.

                    • McFlock …
                      25 January 2013 at 4:51 pm

                      I never said it had an active branch in Dunedin, I made it quite clear that I think Mana made a tactical decision to ignore an electorate that ignores Mana.

                      Even assuming that closure of the Hillside workshops is not a national issue that pertains directly to our national rail infrastructure, basically their anti-privatisation platform only counts in electorates that support them?
                      Labour, NZ1, Greens and even the Alliance manage to express disapproval at the closure and eventual sale of a state asset. Mana… not so much.

                      Hone gets arrested at a protest for one house in Auckland.
                      Not so much as a press release for a factory closure down south.

                      Why should I consider voting for them again?

                      And no, I don’t see any reason to vote for someone to represent somebody else.

                      …said that National voter, the ACT voter…and McFlock.

                      Oh bullshit. NACT rely on people voting for them against their own best interests.

                      But of course, me voting for Mana because I patronisingly believe that Mana is the best party to represent Maori (and those electorates north of the Bombay hills that support Mana enough to get their attention) would be fine /sarc

                      Let me get this right, you don’t want them to put Te Reo first on their website because your identity is primarily defined as a Pakeha from a mostly Pakeha city?

                      “Primarily defined”? No. Learn to read.
                      If I said I were Maori I’d be a liar. Te Reo is Mana’s first priority. Good for them. It ain’t mine, even if I agree with their policy or not.
                      Of all the policies they can put at the top of the list, they chose language. That says a lot about whom they’re trying to connect with. And it’s not me.

                      And seeing as you’ve gone explicit, go fuck yourself, and the wee twinge of consideration I had about voting Mana in 2011 is gone. Fuck you and the JAFA you rode in on.

                    • fatty …
                      25 January 2013 at 9:18 pm

                      And seeing as you’ve gone explicit, go fuck yourself, and the wee twinge of consideration I had about voting Mana in 2011 is gone. Fuck you and the JAFA you rode in on.

                      To be fair, you did tell me to fuck myself first, I talk to most people on here they way they talk to me.
                      Is Hone Harawira just another fuckin’ Aucklander to you?
                      Shit…provincialism to add to your undertones of racism. Nice

                      Privatisation comes from the central Government and it doesn’t matter if its the factory over the fence or the factory 1000KMs away closes. Its the ideology of the Government that caused the closure.
                      Mana were always going to have an MP speaking out against privatisation, Allience was never going to have an MP speaking out about privatisation.
                      Nothing will change in 2014, either vote green/mana/labour or throw your vote away again.
                      If Allience had a seat, I’d probably vote for them, I like their policies, I don’t give a shit about the order of their website, and I want Allience fighting the big issues. I couldn’t give a shit if they are saving the factory in my backyard, or a factory in the North Island, as long as they make the best use of their resources.

                    • Colonial Viper …
                      25 January 2013 at 9:22 pm

                      FFS Mana has the resources of one MP located on the opposite end of the country from Hillside Workshops.

                      Don’t be surprised if they can’t cover all the bases that parties 10x and 30x its size can, OK?

                    • McFlock …
                      25 January 2013 at 11:20 pm

                      But CV, Mana are supposedly more than just Hone. And they can’t match the response of larger parties like Alliance? harrumph.

                      fatty – yeah, someone expects my vote and does nothing to help my community, that calls for provincialism. You dropped the racism bomb because I choose not to vote for a party that, according to you, will assist my entire community only as a result of some sort of ‘collateral assistance’ (to adapt a military euphemism). So don’t get all precious.

                      Hillside is part of the entire privatisation problem. A piece of core infrastructure willfully allowed to decay and die. A discrete unit destroyed in its entirety. To hell with an MP, not even 300 words speaking out against that privatisation. Pull the other one, it’s got bells on.

                    • fatty …
                      26 January 2013 at 5:49 am

                      You dropped the racism bomb because I choose not to vote for a party that, according to you, will assist my entire community only as a result of some sort of ‘collateral assistance’ (to adapt a military euphemism). So don’t get all precious.

                      Nah, I dropped the racist bomb because of what you wrote and what you deem to be the shortcomings of Mana.
                      The left seriously needs to learn how to use the party vote, and how to use the electorate vote

                    • McFlock …
                      26 January 2013 at 6:16 pm

                      what you deem to be the shortcomings of Mana.

                      You mean “the reason why I won’t vote for them”. Mana might very well be the right choice for other people – maybe people for whom language is the first issue that needs to be discussed in this country, or people in communities where Mana shows an interest.

                      But calling me racist because I happen to think that Housing and unemployment should be farther up the queue than Te Reo? Get a life.

                    • fatty …
                      26 January 2013 at 7:00 pm

                      McFlock, this press release / website layout critique of yours contradicts itself.

                      One the one hand, you won’t give Mana the time of day because they didn’t write a 300 word press release about Hillside.
                      One the other hand, the way Mana’s policies are laid out on their website defines their priorities.

                      So which is it McFlock?..do their press releases or the order of their website represent their real priorities?

                      If you say it is press releases, then trawl through their press releases and let me know when you get to a Te Reo release…bonus point if you find a press release that puts Te Reo as their primary policy focus (you’ll also note how housing and unemployment feature regularly in their press releases)

                      If you don’t think it is press releases, then the Hillside issue is blown out of proportion.
                      Press releases or website layout?

                    • McFlock …
                      26 January 2013 at 7:20 pm

                      It’s both.

                      It’s what they choose to prioritise in regards to do with policy, and what they choose to do tactically on a daily basis.

                      The hillside issue is one case where I think they dropped the ball not just on regional issues, but nation-wide privatisation and infrastructure issues, too. But then it’s not the only reason I won’t be voting for them, by any means.

                  • marty mars …
                    26 January 2013 at 9:39 am

                    I amazed you are continuing with this line mcflock that because one specific incident has occurred or not occurred that taints an entire party. You ignore all of the arguments put up and stubbornly stick to the line – they didn’t write 300 words about Hillside so therefore they don’t care about Dunedin or anywhere else and because of that they aren’t a left party and they can get fucked.

                    How the hell did that attitude go down when the alliance was something? What did Mana Motuhake and the other parties within the alliance think of that and I ask because I always considered the alliance to be pretty progressive and not smalltownish at all – maybe I have that all wrong. I really thought your quips about dunners were good natured but seriously this small time thinking is pathetic.

                    This te reo issue you have is also amazing to me – just because it is number one on the website that convinces you that Mana are useless or that their priorities don’t align with you.

                    Do you agree with the alliance treaty of waitangi policy?

                    • McFlock …
                      26 January 2013 at 6:38 pm

                      Yep. Listed alphabetically, no policy prioritised over the others. And more in depth in more areas, too.

                      Hillside is simply a good example of why I think Mana is a narrow issue and geographically limited party. I wonder what they reckon about Gisborne-Napier rail link? They might be “left” like the Greens, but a broad left party? Nope.

                      Yeah, regionalism comes into it, too. Especially when resources are tight. Politicians like resources to go closer to home and the media. Resources like cops. So why should I vote for a “left” party that looks like it’ll just continue that bias? The Alliance, at one or two conferences I was at, represented people from all over, and attempted to address the concerns. Local organisations would keep national office in the loop on local issues. It’s not what it as, but I respect what it tried to do.

                      Am I turned off voting for Mana JUST because of their policy priorities?
                      Nope.
                      JUST because they drop the ball on regional issues?
                      Nope.
                      JUST because Hone wants a remerger with the Maori party sellouts?
                      Close, but nope.

                      All of the above, and the sanctimonious bullshit of Te Reo not being my first policy priority, therefore I must be racist?
                      Fuck yes. Reinforced my decision nicely.

                  • marty mars …
                    26 January 2013 at 8:08 pm

                    Well fair enough mcflock. Kia ora for explaining your views. I still think you are a wanker for holding them but such is life. All the best with the alliance.

      • The Al1en 2.1.2
        24 January 2013 at 10:45 pm

        “If there was a left party created, what would you want their policies to be regarding Maori / Treaty?”

        Far be it from an immigrant to tell Maori how to conduct their affairs, but seeing you asked, for starters…

        An elected Maori grand council; with a set number of cabinet seats regardless of which flavour of government election day brings.

      • xtasy 2.1.3
        25 January 2013 at 2:16 am

        fatty:

        “Why does Mana have to be one or the other?”

        Mana as it is at present would not need to be one or the other, BUT by having Hone suggest to Maori Party members to join Mana, or to re-merge, or to create a kind of alliance, he has himself raised questions about the direction of Mana.

        Quote from above:

        “Harawira has offered a re-merger, something he has predicted since MANA was founded.”

        The Maori Party members and present and previous supporters are in large numbers not necessarily “left”, they are in part actually quite conservative folk, prepared to negotiate shares in SOEs to be sold as partial assets in the MOM companies.

        So how would that work? Working with them would mean a kind of compromise for Mana, it would lose it’s direction and instead revert to more of the alternative “Maori Party”. Mana only started to become a broader focused “left” party after Harawira realised he did not attract the support he had hoped for. He rather split the Maori vote.

        What is a disaster for the opposition in NZ is that there are now four opposition parties in Parliament, being Labour (more and more centre right), the Greens (interventionist, mainly pro environment with a social conscience, but not truly “left” as such), “NZ First” (nationalistic kind of “well meaning” conservatives) and Mana (represented by Hone alone in the House, with Minto, Sykes, Bradford and a few keen to get in, but with little wider “appeal”, due to their personal backgrounds of trench fighters).

        This splits the force and potential of the opposition. So combining the best of all, and bringing this into ONE new major left of centre party, that has no bad baggage like Labour, that is the real opportunity in waiting. Sadly too few seem to see the potential there.

        Well positioned, with ideas, a good set of policies, uniting best ideas of all opposition parties, and briging in new talent and faces, that would be a win win scenario.

        • marty mars 2.1.3.1
          25 January 2013 at 8:23 am

          “Mana only started to become a broader focused “left” party after Harawira realised he did not attract the support he had hoped for.”

          x – that is not true and is a slur on Hone and Mana. Stop making stuff up to push your agenda mate.

        • fatty 2.1.3.2
          25 January 2013 at 10:22 am

          Mana as it is at present would not need to be one or the other, BUT by having Hone suggest to Maori Party members to join Mana, or to re-merge, or to create a kind of alliance, he has himself raised questions about the direction of Mana…So how would that work? Working with them would mean a kind of compromise for Mana, it would lose it’s direction and instead revert to more of the alternative “Maori Party”.

          How would that work? Hone talks about it at the end of this clip here, it would basically mean the Maori Party ditch most of their policies and end their partnership with National. What policy, or policies do you think Mana get rid of?

          The Maori Party members and present and previous supporters are in large numbers not necessarily “left”, they are in part actually quite conservative folk, prepared to negotiate shares in SOEs to be sold as partial assets in the MOM companies.

          In large numbers? Can you prove that? …Maori Party membership has fallen from about 24000 to 600. Do you mean a large part of the 600 left?

          Mana only started to become a broader focused “left” party after Harawira realised he did not attract the support he had hoped for.

          Marty Mars has called this out, and I will too. Who said this? I remember it being repeated on TV1 & 3 by the usual suspects…

          Your point on a split left is interesting, and worthy of another discussion…its the failure of Labour that has caused the need for multiple left parties. I think I remember Hone saying his policies are not radical, they are what Labour should be.

        • marty mars 2.1.3.3
          25 January 2013 at 10:37 am

          I’ll also add this post of mine from 2 years ago which showed my (perhaps misplaced) faith in the people of this country.

          The more i think about this Left Maori Party the more I see the potential of this. If the party vote entitles the party to get more seats – they get them. That means that anyone who agrees with the policies of the party can vote for it.

          and concluding with

          When you really think on it there is no actual reason why a Left Maori Party could not represent many people: people who believe in the kaupapa.

          http://mars2earth.blogspot.co.nz/2011/01/left-maori-party.html

          Two years and some of this has happened, but the journey has really just begun and it is a journey of integrity, social justice and equality.

    • Lanthanide 2.2
      24 January 2013 at 1:24 pm

      I had the same thoughts about Hone saying these things, given that he really tried to portray Mana as “the poor peoples party” and not “the other maori party” at the last election.

      • fatty 2.2.1
        24 January 2013 at 2:05 pm

        really?…what makes you think that?
        From what I have seen Mana was presented as the poor people’s party and the other Maori party prior to the last election, and they have continued with this.
        This clip from June 2011 shows Hone predicting Mana-Maori will combine (5.40min)…Maori issues were at the forefront of Mana pre-election.

        Treaty issues were central to Mana pre-election, in addition, economic inequality has been a pressing issue since the election.
        Check Mana’s press releases…apart from the one yesterday that was about combining Mana and the Maori Party, the issues covered have been (in order):
        Air NZ prices, milk in schools, alcohol, water rights under the Treaty, feed the kids, drilling, TPPA, fracking, MP-National relationship, housing, feeding kids, state housing, feeding keids…you get the idea.

        • xtasy 2.2.1.1
          25 January 2013 at 2:21 am

          “the issues covered have been (in order):
          Air NZ prices, milk in schools, alcohol, water rights under the Treaty, feed the kids, drilling, TPPA, fracking, MP-National relationship, housing, feeding kids, state housing, feeding keids…you get the idea.”

          This is well the case, but it only became so, after you had a number of well-known leftists decide to join Mana some time after it was founded by Harawira and his close circle.

          He himself did before the opening up of Mana never cover such a wide range of policies, which really came to become part of Mana’s present policies, after others brought these ideas and priorities in.

          • marty mars 2.2.1.1.1
            25 January 2013 at 10:41 am

            I’ll just say again that that is not true – you have got it wrong and are not informed correctly. Time for you to put some evidence up or preface your comments with IMO because that is all it is, ill informed opinion.

          • fatty 2.2.1.1.2
            25 January 2013 at 11:05 am

            Who was Hone’s close friends? Who were the left’s that came in?

            I’m interested to know what you think, because I have heard time and again that Hone didn’t care about class before Mana, and Bradford didn’t care about Maori issues before Mana.

            I’ve heard it by the usual TV political heads, but never really believe them. I’ve even read about it on Bryce Edwards blog, written by John Moore here, but all arguments about this appear to reinforce this idea that Maori politics can only fit within a neoliberal/thirdway context, or alongside another identity focus.
            Weird how when the Greens combine environmentalism with left wing politics there is not this identity vs class hysteria that has been repeatedly aimed at Mana.
            The problem with having this identity vs class dichotomy is that it plays into the hands of the neolibs by ensuring that identity politics, in particular Maori, remains a vehicle for neoliberalism. For example, Whanau Ora.

      • marty mars 2.2.2
        24 January 2013 at 10:32 pm

        “the poor peoples party” and not “the other maori party” – they are the same in any practical sense aren’t they.

    • bad12 2.3
      24 January 2013 at 11:16 pm

      The fact that you see the Mana Party as simply promoting Maori issues just tells me your mind is locked in a mono-cultural cell,

      The real fact is that Mana and Harawira as it’s leader consistently advocates for policy to alleviate the economic burden of the low waged and beneficiaries, it is circumstantial in terms of the politics that both Harawira and a high % of those He advocates for are Maori…

  3. Peter 3
    24 January 2013 at 12:00 pm

    Key will stay, that Cabinet reshuffle indicates that he hasn’t given up on a third term. After all, right now, what are the other options? Collins, Joyce, Bennett, or maybe a return of English. Of that lot, Collins is the Nats only option for an alternative leader, and she probably doesn’t have the numbers. Joyce prefers the backroom. Bennett, whilst Labour can hardly touch her in the House, probably can’t lead a party. English would, but I doubt he wants it, or could get it. He prefers to control things through the money, and probably keeps backing Key. After all, why boot out economic dries like Wilkinson and Heatley, and bring back English’s mate, Nick Smith?

    There’s more chance of Simon Power getting bored with banking and coming back…

    So no, Key will stay.

    As for Labour, well, anyone’s guess as to what happens in February. Shearer may stay, he may go. If it gets to a party-wide vote, he’s gone. Why else would hundreds, if not thousands of people rejoin the party prior to Christmas (yes, I rejoined too) to vote for Shearer to stay. They joined to vote Shearer out, no question about that. If a ballot is triggered, he’s gone.

    On the Maori Party’s woes, all self-inflicted. I still feel a bit sorry for Sharples, a nice guy who probably wasn’t suited to politics. I don’t think that they will merge, not this term, and that they’ll win no seats at the election. Mana will win one, maybe two seats, and Labour will get the rest.

  4. McFlock 4
    24 January 2013 at 12:14 pm

    I have a lot of respect for Katene. She’d be an excellent co-leader, and it’d be a gross miss-step to choose some allegedly malleable (but probably kooky, as these choices end up being) inexperienced nobody.

    • bad12 4.1
      24 January 2013 at 4:59 pm

      Yes i agree that Rahui Katene is a capable politician who here in Te Tai Tonga paid part of the price of the Maori Party support for the present FAILURE of the Slippery lead National Government,

      Forget tho notions of a co-leadership, if Katene is to inherit Tariana Turia’s electorate on my current reading of the chickens entrails She will in fact be the only Maori Party MP in the Parliament after November 2014 as i believe Annette Sykes now has the support to unseat Flavell from Waiariki,and Sharples could probably be right now be unseated by the Conservatives Colin Craig for all the personal support He now retains,

      In a way it is with sadness that i sit here pronouncing the Tangi for the Maori Party to already have begun,(reminds me of Marley’s see them fighting for power but they know not the hour),as it equally gladdened my cynical old heart to see a young generation of Maori upon the formation of that Maori Party become so politically engaged as to venture out door-knocking on behalf of the Maori electorates,(considering some of the reactions they would have and did face from many in the wider community),

      It was glaringly obvious here in Te Tai Tonga as the Maori flags drooped to half mast and then along with the bumper stickers all but disappeared that the Party had committed political suicide by entering a coalition with National albeit the poison contained within the chalice has take it’s time to snuff out the last flickers of a dying light…

  5. vivaciousviper 5
    24 January 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Thanks for the humour,i had a giggle when i read the first paragraph, it is a mess indeed.
    The maori leaders need to take the blame for the demise of the maori party,they turned
    their backs on the maori people and their needs in order to support a Key led govt that has
    trashed living standards and couldn’t give a continental for the kids going hungry because the parents are living on the bones of their arses,working or not working.
    Clark turned her back on the maori people too and in turn lost the election.
    Turia is standing down, Sharples is hanging on to the broken parachute, the question is
    “What is more important,the people or the power”

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    Lindsay Mitchell writes – Ten years ago, I wrote the following in a Listener column: Every year around one in five new-born babies will be reliant on their caregivers benefit by Christmas. This pattern has persisted from at least 1993. For Maori the number jumps to over one in three.  ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    1 day ago

  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
    Climate change is expected to generate more and more extreme events, delivering a sort of structural shock to inflation that central banks will have to react to as if they were short-term cyclical issues. Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāMy pick of the six newsey things to know from Aotearoa’s ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours, as of 9:16 am on Thursday, April 18 are:Housing: Tauranga residents living in boats, vans RNZ Checkpoint Louise TernouthHousing: Waikato councillor says wastewater plant issues could hold up Sleepyhead building a massive company town Waikato Times Stephen ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    1 day ago

  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
    It’s a simple deal. We pay taxes in order to finance the social services we want and need. The carnage now occurring across the public sector though, is breaking that contract. Over 3,000 jobs have been lost so far. Many are in crucial areas like Education where the impact of ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    1 day ago

  • Meeting the Master Baiters
    Hi,A friend had their 40th over the weekend and decided to theme it after Curb Your Enthusiasm fashion icon Susie Greene. Captured in my tiny kitchen before I left the house, I ending up evoking a mix of old lesbian and Hillary Clinton — both unintentional.Me vs Hillary ClintonIf you’re ...
    David FarrierBy David Farrier
    1 day ago

  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
    This is a re-post from Andrew Dessler at the Climate Brink blog In 2023, the Earth reached temperature levels unprecedented in modern times. Given that, it’s reasonable to ask: What’s going on? There’s been lots of discussions by scientists about whether this is just the normal progression of global warming or if something ...
    Skeptical Science
    1 day ago

  • Backbone, revisited
    The schools are on holiday and the sun is shining in the seaside village and all day long I have been seeing bunches of bikes; Mums, Dads, teens and toddlers chattering, laughing, happy, having a bloody great time together. Cheers, AT, for the bits of lane you’ve added lately around the ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    2 days ago

  • Ministers are not above the law
    Today in our National-led authoritarian nightmare: Shane Jones thinks Ministers should be above the law: New Zealand First MP Shane Jones is accusing the Waitangi Tribunal of over-stepping its mandate by subpoenaing a minister for its urgent hearing on the Oranga Tamariki claim. The tribunal is looking into the ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago

  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
    Buzz from the Beehive Point  of Order first heard of the Oceans Secretariat in June 2021, when David Parker (remember him?) announced a multi-agency approach to protecting New Zealand’s marine ecosystems and fisheries. Parker (holding the Environment, and Oceans and Fisheries portfolios) broke the news at the annual Forest & ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago

  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Bryce Edwards writes  – Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
    Citizen Science writes –  Last week saw two significant developments in the debate over the treatment of trans-identifying children and young people – the release in Britain of the final report of Dr Hilary Cass’s review into gender healthcare, and here in New Zealand, the news that the ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago

  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
    One night while sleeping in my bed I had a beautiful dreamThat all the people of the world got together on the same wavelengthAnd began helping one anotherNow in this dream, universal love was the theme of the dayPeace and understanding and it happened this wayAfter such an eventful day ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago

  • Texas Lessons
    This is a guest post by Oscar Simms who is a housing activist, volunteer for the Coalition for More Homes, and was the Labour Party candidate for Auckland Central at the last election. ...
    Greater AucklandBy Guest Post
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's pick 'n' mix of the news links at 6:06 am
    The top six news links I’ve seen elsewhere in the last 24 hours as of 6:06 am on Wednesday, April 17 are:Must read: Secrecy shrouds which projects might be fast-tracked RNZ Farah HancockScoop: Revealed: Luxon has seven staffers working on social media content - partly paid for by taxpayer Newshub ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    2 days ago

  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
    Turning what Labour called the “holiday highway” into a four-lane expressway from Auckland to Whangarei could bring at least an economic benefit of nearly two billion a year for Northland each year. And it could help bring an end to poverty in one of New Zealand’s most deprived regions. The ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    2 days ago

  • Bernard's six-stack of substacks at 6:26 pm
    Tonight’s six-stack includes: launching his substack with a bunch of his previous documentaries, including this 1992 interview with Dame Whina Cooper. and here crew give climate activists plenty to do, including this call to submit against the Fast Track Approvals bill. writes brilliantly here on his substack ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
    On February 14, 2023 we announced our Rebuttal Update Project. This included an ask for feedback about the added "At a glance" section in the updated basic rebuttal versions. This weekly blog post series highlights this new section of one of the updated basic rebuttal versions and serves as a ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • Apposite Quotations.
    How Long Is Long Enough? Gaza under Israeli bombardment, July 2014. This posting is exclusive to Bowalley Road. ...
    Bowalley Road
    3 days ago

  • What’s a life worth now?
    You're in the mall when you hear it: some kind of popping sound in the distance, kids with fireworks, maybe. But then a moment of eerie stillness is followed by more of the fireworks sound and there’s also screaming and shrieking and now here come people running for their lives.Does ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago

  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago

  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
    Politicians across the political spectrum are implicated in the New Zealand media’s failing health. Either through neglect or incompetent interventions, successive governments have failed to regulate, foster, and allow a healthy Fourth Estate that can adequately hold politicians and the powerful to account. Our political system is suffering from the ...
    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago

  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
    PRC and its proxies in Solomons have been preparing for these elections for a long time. A lot of money, effort and intelligence have gone into ensuring an outcome that won’t compromise Beijing’s plans. Cleo Paskall writes – On April 17th the Solomon Islands, a country of ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago

  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
    We are in the middle of a climate crisis. Last year was (again) the hottest year on record. NOAA has just announced another global coral bleaching event. Floods are threatening UK food security. So naturally, Shane Jones wants to make it easier to mine coal: Resources Minister Shane Jones ...
    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago

  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
    Is speeding up the trip to and from Wellington airport by 12 minutes worth spending up more than $10 billion? Photo: Lynn Grieveson / The KākāTL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me in the last day to 8:26 am today are:The Lead: Transport Minister Simeon Brown announced ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago

  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
    Yesterday it was revealed that Transport Minister had asked Waka Kotahi to look at the options for a long tunnel through Wellington. State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the ...
    Greater AucklandBy Matt L
    3 days ago

  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago

  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
    This is a re-post from Yale Climate Connections The June general election in Mexico could mark a turning point in ensuring that the country’s climate policies better reflect the desire of its citizens to address the climate crisis, with both leading presidential candidates expressing support for renewable energy. Mexico is the ...
    Skeptical Science
    3 days ago

  • State of humanity, 2024
    2024, it feels, keeps presenting us with ever more challenges, ever more dismay.Do you give up yet? It seems to ask.No? How about this? Or this?How about this?When I say 2024 I really mean the state of humanity in 2024.Saturday night, we watched Civil War because that is one terrifying cliff we've ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago

  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago

  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago

  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    Gordon CampbellBy lyndon
    4 days ago

  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
    Costello did not pass on analysis of the benefits of the smokefree reforms to Cabinet, emphasising instead the extra tax revenues of repealing them. Photo: Hagen Hopkins, Getty Images TL;DR: The six news items that stood out to me at 7:26 am today are:The Lead: Casey Costello never passed on ...
    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago

  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago

  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago

  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
    A listing of 31 news and opinion articles we found interesting and shared on social media during the past week: Sun, April 7, 2024 thru Sat, April 13, 2024. Story of the week Our story of the week is about adults in the room setting terms and conditions of ...
    Skeptical Science
    5 days ago

  • Feline Friends and Fragile Fauna The Complexities of Cats in New Zealand’s Conservation Efforts

    Cats, with their independent spirit and beguiling purrs, have captured the hearts of humans for millennia. In New Zealand, felines are no exception, boasting the highest national cat ownership rate globally [definition cat nz cat foundation]. An estimated 1.134 million pet cats grace Kiwi households, compared to 683,000 dogs ...

    Gareth’s WorldBy admin
    5 days ago

  • Or is that just they want us to think?
    Nice guy, that Peter Williams. Amiable, a calm air of no-nonsense capability, a winning smile. Everything you look for in a TV presenter and newsreader.I used to see him sometimes when I went to TVNZ to be a talking head or a panellist and we would yarn. Nice guy, that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago

  • Fact Brief – Did global warming stop in 1998?
    Skeptical Science is partnering with Gigafact to produce fact briefs — bite-sized fact checks of trending claims. This fact brief was written by Sue Bin Park in collaboration with members from our Skeptical Science team. You can submit claims you think need checking via the tipline. Did global warming stop in ...
    Skeptical Science
    6 days ago

  • Arguing over a moot point.
    I have been following recent debates in the corporate and social media about whether it is a good idea for NZ to join what is known as “AUKUS Pillar Two.” AUKUS is the Australian-UK-US nuclear submarine building agreement in which … Continue reading → ...
    KiwipoliticoBy Pablo
    6 days ago

  • No Longer Trusted: Ageing Boomers, Laurie & Les, Talk Politics.
    Turning Point: “What has turned me away from the mainstream news media is the very strong message that its been sending out for the last few years.” “And what message might that be?” “That the people who own it, the people who run it, and the people who provide its content, really don’t ...
    Bowalley Road
    6 days ago

  • Mortgage rates at 10% anyone?
    No – nothing about that in PM Luxon’s nine-point plan to improve the lives of New Zealanders. But beyond our shores Jamie Dimon, the long-serving head of global bank J.P. Morgan Chase, reckons that the chances of a goldilocks soft landing for the economy are “a lot lower” than the ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago

  • Anzac commemorations, Türkiye relationship focus of visit
    Foreign Affairs Minister Winston Peters will represent the Government at Anzac Day commemorations on the Gallipoli Peninsula next week and engage with senior representatives of the Turkish government in Istanbul.    “The Gallipoli campaign is a defining event in our history. It will be a privilege to share the occasion ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    54 mins ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
    Science, Innovation and Technology and Defence Minister Judith Collins will next week attend the OECD Science and Technology Ministerial conference in Paris and Anzac Day commemorations in Belgium. “Science, innovation and technology have a major role to play in rebuilding our economy and achieving better health, environmental and social outcomes ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 hours ago

  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    15 hours ago

  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    20 hours ago

  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    21 hours ago

  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    23 hours ago

  • Government backing mussel spat project
    The Coalition Government is investing in a project to boost survival rates of New Zealand mussels and grow the industry, Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones has announced. “This project seeks to increase the resilience of our mussels and significantly boost the sector’s productivity,” Mr Jones says. “The project - ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
    The Government is bringing the earthquake-prone building review forward, with work to start immediately, and extending the deadline for remediations by four years, Building and Construction Minister Chris Penk says. “Our Government is focused on rebuilding the economy. A key part of our plan is to cut red tape that ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 day ago

  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
    Oceans and Fisheries Minister Shane Jones is streamlining high-level oceans management while maintaining a focus on supporting the sector’s role in the export-led recovery of the economy. “I am working to realise the untapped potential of our fishing and aquaculture sector. To achieve that we need to be smarter with ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    2 days ago

  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
    Associate Agriculture Minister Mark Patterson is speaking at the International Wool Textile Organisation Congress in Adelaide, promoting New Zealand wool, and outlining the coalition Government’s support for the revitalisation the sector.    "New Zealand’s wool exports reached $400 million in the year to 30 June 2023, and the coalition Government ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
    The Government is making legislative changes to make it easier for new early learning services to be established, and for existing services to operate, Associate Education Minister David Seymour says. The changes involve repealing the network approval provisions that apply when someone wants to establish a new early learning service, ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
    Changes to the Resource Management Act will align consenting for coal mining to other forms of mining to reduce barriers that are holding back economic development, Resources Minister Shane Jones says. “The inconsistent treatment of coal mining compared with other extractive activities is burdensome red tape that fails to acknowledge ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
    Trade, Agriculture and Forestry Minister Todd McClay has concluded productive discussions with ministerial counterparts in Beijing today, in support of the New Zealand-China trade and economic relationship. “My meeting with Commerce Minister Wang Wentao reaffirmed the complementary nature of the bilateral trade relationship, with our Free Trade Agreement at its ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    3 days ago

  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has made further appointments to the Board of Antarctica New Zealand as part of a continued effort to ensure the Scott Base Redevelopment project is delivered in a cost-effective and efficient manner.  The Minister has appointed Neville Harris as a new member of the Board. Mr ...
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    4 days ago

  • Finance Minister travels to Washington DC
    Finance Minister Nicola Willis will travel to the United States on Tuesday to attend a meeting of the Five Finance Ministers group, with counterparts from Australia, the United States, Canada, and the United Kingdom.  “I am looking forward to meeting with our Five Finance partners on how we can work ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Pet bonds a win/win for renters and landlords
    The coalition Government has today announced purrfect and pawsitive changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to give tenants with pets greater choice when looking for a rental property, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Pets are important members of many Kiwi families. It’s estimated that around 64 per cent of New ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • Long Tunnel for SH1 Wellington being considered
    State Highway 1 (SH1) through Wellington City is heavily congested at peak times and while planning continues on the duplicate Mt Victoria Tunnel and Basin Reserve project, the Government has also asked NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) to consider and provide advice on a Long Tunnel option, Transport Minister Simeon Brown ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    4 days ago

  • New Zealand condemns Iranian strikes
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Foreign Minister Winston Peters have condemned Iran’s shocking and illegal strikes against Israel.    “These attacks are a major challenge to peace and stability in a region already under enormous pressure," Mr Luxon says.    "We are deeply concerned that miscalculation on any side could ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    5 days ago

  • Huge interest in Government’s infrastructure plans
    Hundreds of people in little over a week have turned out in Northland to hear Regional Development Minister Shane Jones speak about plans for boosting the regional economy through infrastructure. About 200 people from the infrastructure and associated sectors attended an event headlined by Mr Jones in Whangarei today. Last ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago

  • Health Minister thanks outgoing Health New Zealand Chair
    Health Minister Dr Shane Reti has today thanked outgoing Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora Chair Dame Karen Poutasi for her service on the Board.   “Dame Karen tendered her resignation as Chair and as a member of the Board today,” says Dr Reti.  “I have asked her to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    7 days ago

  • Roads of National Significance planning underway
    The NZ Transport Agency (NZTA) has signalled their proposed delivery approach for the Government’s 15 Roads of National Significance (RoNS), with the release of the State Highway Investment Proposal (SHIP) today, Transport Minister Simeon Brown says.  “Boosting economic growth and productivity is a key part of the Government’s plan to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago

  • Navigating an unstable global environment
    New Zealand is renewing its connections with a world facing urgent challenges by pursuing an active, energetic foreign policy, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “Our country faces the most unstable global environment in decades,” Mr Peters says at the conclusion of two weeks of engagements in Egypt, Europe and the United States.    “We cannot afford to sit back in splendid ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago

  • NZ welcomes Australian Governor-General
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has announced the Australian Governor-General, His Excellency General The Honourable David Hurley and his wife Her Excellency Mrs Linda Hurley, will make a State visit to New Zealand from Tuesday 16 April to Thursday 18 April. The visit reciprocates the State visit of former Governor-General Dame Patsy Reddy ...
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    1 week ago

  • Pseudoephedrine back on shelves for Winter
    Associate Health Minister David Seymour has announced that Medsafe has approved 11 cold and flu medicines containing pseudoephedrine. Pharmaceutical suppliers have indicated they may be able to supply the first products in June. “This is much earlier than the original expectation of medicines being available by 2025. The Government recognised ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago

  • NZ and the US: an ever closer partnership
    New Zealand and the United States have recommitted to their strategic partnership in Washington DC today, pledging to work ever more closely together in support of shared values and interests, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.    “The strategic environment that New Zealand and the United States face is considerably more ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago

  • Joint US and NZ declaration
    April 11, 2024 Joint Declaration by United States Secretary of State the Honorable Antony J. Blinken and New Zealand Minister of Foreign Affairs the Right Honourable Winston Peters We met today in Washington, D.C. to recommit to the historic partnership between our two countries and the principles that underpin it—rule ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    1 week ago

  • NZ and US to undertake further practical Pacific cooperation
    Foreign Minister Winston Peters has announced further New Zealand cooperation with the United States in the Pacific Islands region through $16.4 million in funding for initiatives in digital connectivity and oceans and fisheries research.   “New Zealand can achieve more in the Pacific if we work together more urgently and ...
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