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Ministers in a Lab/Green govt

Written By: - Date published: 7:32 am, December 4th, 2012 - 142 comments
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Paddy Gower looked fit to burst with excitement over ‘Greens and Labour fighting over Finance portfolio‘ last night. Of course, the actual quote not so exciting – just Russel Norman saying it was one portfolio that would be the subject of negotiations in the formation of a Labour/Green government. But it does raise a valid question – who would be ministers in a Labour/Green government?

OK. First off, lets assume the government MPs are 30% Green, 70% Labour – roughly in line with the current polls. Next, we’ll have to assume that the current portfolios hold – ie Shearer is leader, Cunliffe is in purgatory for the sin of not having a dirt operation on the scale of Mallard/Hipkins/Mold/Robertson, and Jones has no portfolios either. However, we will assume that King leaves for Wellington mayoralty (the housing policy will help with that – and she’ll be gone before its economics get torn apart in the full election release).

I’ve chosen what I regard as the top 20 portfolios – the ones that wouldn’t usually be held simultaneously with any of the others in the top 20 – and looked at the spokesperson from each party for each. Simply, I’ve chosen the best of the options in each portfolio – excepting that Shearer would be PM. And I’ve made a few changes where there’s someone else better than either incumbent or political necessity.

There’s 7 Greens out of 19 there, over-represented on the current polls but, in reality, Norman would probably get Economic Development and Parker Finance – the trade-off would be an extra Green Cabinet minister.

There’s a problem with Justice and Attorney-General. They shouldn’t both be Chauvel but there’s not many spare lawyers with an interest in justice in the ranks.

For the ministers outside Cabinet (Key has a record 28 ministers) I would choose Walker (would be in Cabinet except giving Turei MSD means giving Ardern Housing), Delahunty, Clark, Sio, O’Connor, Fenton, Curran, Mackey and Street.

All up, it’s 12 women (4 on the front bench), 3 Maori, 2 Pasifika, 3 gay, and a pretty good geographic distribution.

I have to say, I like the look of that Cabinet. They would have much better policy, of course and, apart from the top name, nearly all of them would better the current minister in sheer competence.

142 comments on “Ministers in a Lab/Green govt”

  1. karol 1

    My question is why Gower is so quick to anoint a Shearer-Norman led government?  That was the subtext of his little puff-piece.  TV3 is going all-out spinning for this since the Labour conference.

    If there was a Labour-led government, are there any likely ex-MP candidates that would return to parliament, and who might be front bench material? 

    • toad 1.1

      Carmel Sepuloni, Stuart Nash?

      • Lanthanide 1.1.1

        Darren Hughes? Could come back in 2014 and potential get an associate position, and move up in 2017.

        • King Kong 1.1.1.1

          I would run screaming and naked through the streets if that ever happened.

          • lprent 1.1.1.1.1

            Bookmark that comment. But you really have to give an opportunity to us all to get the buttocks shot with the dangling shriveled penis…

    • Yep Gower’s spin is appalling.  He kept saying that Shearer was being undermined.  All that I saw was a damned good debate and an increase in democracy in the party and then a speech from Shearer that was well received.

      Then they try to paint the labour in turmoil meme and Labour goes up in the polls.

      As to motivation, well the assistance that this Government has given to mediaworks speaks volumes … 

      • King Kong 1.2.1

        Ha ha. Your spin isn’t so flash either. You really can’t expect us to buy this “passion of the Cunliffe” stuff.

        • Craig Glen Eden 1.2.1.1

          No King Kong believe Gower Cunliffe was going to do a take over at conference and Shearer is amazing best thing since…..since….. ABC.

          • King Kong 1.2.1.1.1

            The Gospel According to [deleted]

            And lo, the savior rode into conference on a donkey and the members fell at his feet and there was much rejoicing. The shadow cabinet saw this and they became afraid.

            During the procession a member asked “Messiah how can we serve you better?” and the savior replied “The jealousy of man is strong when faced with my omnipotent radiance. Lower the threshold for my ascension to the throne and the kingdom of the Labour party shall be yours, my member”

            Later that night as the disciples shared a meal the Messiah touched Nania and Charles gently on the face and spoke. “Tomorrow a cock (from TV3 news) will crow 8 times and my purpose will be betrayed. All through that night the savior was alone, starring at his reflection in a pool.

            Three days after the glorious entrance at conference, our savior was hauled in front of the caucus. “So you call yourself King of the party” accused Pontius Shearer. With a holy countenance the Messiah replied “You may strike me down now but untold riches await my resurrection in February for the will of my children will be done”

            [lprent: I'm not happy with using real names for no apparent reason especially in view of some of the legislative pogroms that seem to be looming on the horizion. As soon as my current workload subsides, I will talking around the authors about adding substantial portions of RFC1855 to our policy, especially the sections on respecting pseudonymous handles.

            And repetition by you and some of the others who try to sneak them in is going to be unwise in the interim. I'm liable to start high in my personal moderator deterrence and get higher. ]

            • alwyn 1.2.1.1.1.1

              I’m not sure what you are smoking but please tell me where I can get some.
              The image you conjure up is a wonderful one.

            • Lanthanide 1.2.1.1.1.2

              Hah, nice RFC, haven’t seen that before.

              • lprent

                As you can see it has been around for a while. It was just a compendium of things that were common before usenet on other forums like BBS’s. You find the same general principles in all subsequent net forums.

                Wish the legislators would make and effort to read what net cultures have already developed for them.

      • ad 1.2.2

        I think it’s good that the story is moving on from “who will lead the Labour Party” to “The inevitability of a Labour-Green coalition”.

        Gower isn’t going to change. The Shearer leadership has used him, and the rest of the MSM, the best.

        The MSM is being employed to help write the narrative of inevitable success and in turn to write history towards the next election.

        Long may it last.

      • The Fan Club 1.2.3

        Hey how’d the complaint to NZ Council go then eh? What a bunch of whingers.

        • mickysavage 1.2.3.1

          FC as usual you are Anything But Coherent.

          • The Fan Club 1.2.3.1.1

            Ohh so not so good then? What. A. Shame.

            • the pigman 1.2.3.1.1.1

              You are such a sarcastic little cock. Keep lapping up Grant Robertson’s KoolAid (or whatever else he’s got you and your Young Labour chums on) and quit attacking a member with the best interests of his branch/country at heart.

              Hope the weather is fine in Wellywood.

              • The Fan Club

                Now now, watch the expletives. It lowers the discursive tone.

                (And yeah. I’m not a Wellingtonian, or a Young Labour member. So yeah. Better luck next time.)

    • Peter 1.3

      Right now the MSM are trying to portray the L/G side as overconfident and incompetent. Instead of being baited into answering questions about who will be doing what in the first hypothetical Labour/Green coalition party, leaders would be better off increasing their electoral following. The loaded questions of the MSM are only of interest if L/G win in two years time.

      • xtasy 1.3.1

        Peter:

        Yes, I am afraid, that is what seems to be going on, especially via TV3 and their news reporters.

        The creeping up polls for L/G and decline of Key and Nats do not go down well with some of their staff, I am sure. Discredit the opposition now, so they get stunted again, that is the MSM agenda.

        • karol 1.3.1.1

          While ultimately the end result may be the MSM turning against Team Shearer, I really don’t think the majority of them think that far ahead.

          There may be one or two influential people deliberately aiming for that.  But i think most of the people in news teams won’t be thinking far ahead on political strategies. 

          I think it’s more likely that many news people will just repeat the narratives that make most sense to them in terms of their own political positions: e.g. they may just prefer the right wing Labour attitudes tho the left wingers asking for a more radical break with the neoliberal consensus.

          Whatever the news people have in mind, the are producing a low quality news product that is very skewed political.  They are not doing what Nicky Hager values: relentlessly seeking facts and truth.

          They are constructing a narrative that doesn’t match up with all the facts available.  It is a clumsy and distorted construction of Shearer being the best leader Labour can offer, and the most likely next PM – at least that’s the MSM/TV3 narrative for now, and probably til February. 

          • xtasy 1.3.1.1.1

            MSM = may be a bit like the “endless” gossiping parroting chain, doing the merry go round “I have heard”, “oh, I told you so”, “see, that is what they are all about”, “oh, yes, I must agree”, “oh, really, that is interesting”, “yes, I agree”, as “I have no mind of my own”.

            Story written, printed, read, broadcast, done.

            analysis – zilch
            facts – zilch
            objectivity – zilch

          • BLiP 1.3.1.1.2

            .

            Bingo! The MSM focus is on what might happen somewhere else rather than what is actually happening right in front of their noses – National Ltd™ systematically handing over public assets and resources to its international business mates, and lying while doing it. Still, relentlessly seeking facts and telling truth to power requires time and resources, something the frontline MSM “journalists” are short of, and deliberately so, thanks to deliberate underfunding. The last thing the MSM wants is an informed public.

  2. Brad 2

    LOL. The Greens would need at least half of Labour’s vote to even consider getting Finance. As Shearer said, it’s not going to happen.

    • Crimson Nile 2.1

      Although in counterpoint, Labour will need at least half of the Green Party’s vote to even consider getting into Government. It could be considered a sensible political trade.

  3. Tom Gould 3

    If ever the Tories needed a lifeline, you just gave it to them. Besides, the Greens would be more likely to get slots outside Cabinet. Only Norman and perhaps Turei have shown any real aptitude for the rigors of Ministerial responsibility, inside Cabinet, and maybe Graham who would make a fine Attorney General and even Treaty negotiations. As for the finance role, that would go to Parker to settle the markets and prevent a run of the currency, and Norman would have to settle for economic development with a mandate to work up the eco-economy stuff. That’s about it for them.

  4. higherstandard 4

    Interesting, with a few notable exceptions this just shows that, along with the incumbent ministers there is a woeful lack of talent amongst our current crop of politicians/troughers.

  5. just saying 5

    Your predictions seem likely. I think there would be real benefit to shaking things up, but that never happens.

    For example, I’d prefer Little to take education. Partly I guess, because I can just see him being the bearer of the shit sandwich to workers, of labour laws that change sfa. And hard-selling them as being another of those ‘necessary compromises’ that union management has become expert in promoting to members as ‘reasonable’ and ‘inevitable’.

  6. Bunji 6

    Obviously Parker and Norman switch from your list as you say. And a good line up.
    A couple of thoughts: It would be hard to take King and Fenton off their portfolios as they (especially King) are making a good fist of them. Little might have to bide his time, but Ardern does need something senior… (Health?)
    Similarly Twyford has to be in there, but surely you’e got to have a Green on Environment (Hague?)? (Twyford for Police?)
    A few tough choices to work out, but definitely like the list.

  7. Hilary 7

    What about Broadcasting or Disability Issues? Education and Health also need a couple of associates, and Special Ed will be particularly important by 2014 as schools are expected to be inclusive by then and if not will require a lot of attention.

    Mana, the Maori Party and NZ First are likely to be there too and may expect cabinet positions.

  8. Bill 8

    Somebody needs to haul Gower’s head out from whosever arse he has it firmly planted up and give it a good slapping.

    This Norman thing looks like carbon copy of the technique used on Cunliffe with the same intended consequences – a manufactured scenario that presents the puppet boy with an opportunity to look independent and decisive.

    • karol 8.1

      It’s probably not just Gower, but a TV3 News thing.  It goes hand-in-hand with Garner’s reporting that reinforces the worthiness of Shearer (e.g. his analysis of the poll results); plus the News anchors’ summarising Gower’s reports and unsubstantiated conclusions as if they are statements of fact.

      Who benefits?  Maybe look at Labour’s potential policies on reviving public broadcasting? How it might benefit TV3 to have a weak and right-leaning PM overseeing the policy developments?

      • Bill 8.1.1

        I’m tempted to be a tad more cynical and suggest that whereas Paddy might be somewhat directed by the ABC clique, the natural inclination of TV3 would be to happily to pump up Shearer short term because he can he so easily and so completely destroyed pre-election – unlike the situation were a certain back bencher to assume leadership of the party.

        • geoff 8.1.1.1

          Absolutely Bill, the likes of Gower would love to see Shearer fall to pieces during the election campaign in front of their cameras.

          • Akldnut 8.1.1.1.1

            Spot on Bill, Shearer is being pumped up purely because he will be decimated by Key and his cronies come next election, they (Gower and other political reporters) can clearly see this and have already started maneuvering with this in mind.

  9. Peter 9

    You missed out the most important portfolio – conservation. There’s a massive job there to rebuild morale within the Department and generally fix things up after 6 years of Wilkinson’s mess.

    I’d pick Eugenie Sage for that.

  10. Lanthanide 10

    Oh god, not Hughes in any position of responsibility.

    • King Kong 10.1

      By just suggesting that little dweeb is Ministerial potential has stripped any credibility from this post.

      I would be nervous about him running the fries section at the local McDonalds (if only because he is not tall enough to reach the handles).

  11. cardassian 11

    You’ve given Little labour and police.

  12. marsman 12

    Gower has become a shrieking turd focusing on manufacturing ‘news’, neither he nor the bombastic self-important Garner seem to have a clue about journalism let alone investigative journalism.

  13. arants 13

    What about the Trade portfolio? Labour’s recent Conference remits have effectively withdrawn support for the TPPA in anything like its current form. However, Goff & Cosgrove are actively undermining this position, stridently supporting TPPA during the current Auckland round. If Shearer doesn’t bring them to heel they could do more damage to a potential coalition than Jones.

  14. ad 14

    Isn’t this a whole lot more fun than obscure arguments about which policy isn’t extreme enough?

    Feels like a tide turning!

    Anyone want to admit the pro-Shearer writers were right yet? Too early?

    • King Kong 14.1

      Please don’t make them apologise. There are some great prototype National election ads ready to go and they wont work if all the crazys show contrition and admit poor judgement.

      The one I saw goes along the lines of;

      “Political lightweight”, “Mr Bumbles”, “too inexperienced”, “doesn’t know what he stands for”, “lacks integrity”, “Just a puppet for a powerful cabal” – And that is just what the Labour party members say about David Shearer.

      • Draco T Bastard 14.1.1

        There are some great prototype National election ads ready to go and they wont work if all the crazys show contrition and admit poor judgement.

        But neither National nor Act will ever show contrition and admit poor judgement. It’s part of their psychology – they actually think that they’re right all the time even when the evidence shows that they’re wrong.

        • Akldnut 14.1.1.1

          “doesn’t know what he stands for”, “lacks integrity”, “Just a puppet for a powerful cabal”

          You just described John Key but missed out “Liar, ripoff merchant & prince of clowns and photo ops “

        • Pascal's bookie 14.1.1.2

          No party wants to start on that game KK.

          It’s a M.A.D. M.A.D. world.

        • OneTrack 14.1.1.3

          Exactly like Labour and the Greens.

      • Blue 14.1.2

        There are some great prototype National election ads ready to go

        I thought they were going to use the photos of John Key eating maggots with Bear Grylls.

  15. Jackal 15

    James Henderson

    Apart from the top name, nearly all of them would better the current minister in sheer competence?

    You can’t honestly be arguing that Shearer should eat some crickets and maggots, decrease our clean and green branding by millions if not billions of dollars with a few untimely off the cuff remarks and being an international disgrace in terms of GHG emissions and negotiations not to mention insulting a sports super star and many in the gay community by trying to appear blokey? Personally I would have thought the high unemployment rate and increased inequality etc etc would reflect on Keys ability as a so-called leader of New Zealand? But I guess your comparison of competence as Prime Minister is a relative thing dependent on your preference of Labour leader or something?

    Having said that I think your list is pretty spot on. I would like to see a 50/50 split though re male and female (a pipe dream at this stage) and some more fresh faces in there… Although Hughes as Minister of energy will be strongly resisted, good call. I would also give Phil Goff the NZ Security Service portfolio with Shearer perhaps having Foreign Affairs LOL. Shearer is reasonably qualified in that area and will have gained international respect for his previous humanitarian work. Goff is the man to sort out our faulty security services. I think it’s important that trade becomes more conscientious and besides, Labour could take a leaf out of the Nats playbook and effectively whisk the PM away in the face of any controversy. I think it’s more likely that Parker will get finance, but I guess that all depends on how the vote goes in 2014.

  16. Bliss, two clowns with absolutely no idea about international finance with Russel actually actively ignoring what is happening internationally vying for the position of finance minister. That will really help New Zealand over the next couple of years as the global finance scam implodes.

  17. Matthew Hooton 17

    List looks about right, except Tamihere will be Social Development.

    • millsy 17.1

      His first act being to deny the sickness benefit to those with HIV.

      • Colonial Viper 17.1.1

        Yep. If you contracted it through a blood transfusion you’ll be OK, if you caught it through being gay, you’re history.

    • Lightly 17.2

      tamihere won’t even be ranked high enough to get in, if he makes the list at all. Remember, there’s reforms coming to give the membership more power over that – so being Shearer’s drinking buddy won’t be enough. JT’s obviously worked out he’ll never get the LEC onside to Waitakere.

  18. millsy 18

    The main portfolios will go to Labour ministers, but I reckon the Greens will get Conservation. I’m also going to make a curly call, and give Science and Innovation/CRI’s to Norman, then he can set about implementing his green economic strategy without seeming to frighten the horses.

    • Lightly 18.1

      why would the greens be fobbed off with minor portfolios? How would that represent the people who voted for them?

      • King Kong 18.1.1

        They would best represent those who vote for them by keeping lots of cats and talking to themselves in the aisles of New World.

        • Lanthanide 18.1.1.1

          Or my favourite example, when I went to vote in 2008 at a somewhat busy polling place, an ‘activist’ woman harangued the voting officials asking them why the podiums and tables were made out of cardboard and whether they would be stored away for future elections or just thrown out, and shouldn’t they just be using perfectly acceptable wooden trestle tables etc.

          • felix 18.1.1.1.1

            A reasonable question, given that most polling places have no shortage of tables and desks. Do you have a reasonable answer?

            • King Kong 18.1.1.1.1.1

              Calm down and feed your cats

              • felix

                Have you noticed the alarming increase in numbers of multi-cat people who talk to themselves in the supie? 11% in the last election and 13% in recent polls.

                On the other hand it could be that your lazy attempt at stereotype humour is a bit flacid.

              • mike e

                Felix cats cost more than your peanuts

            • Lanthanide 18.1.1.1.1.2

              I should imagine that while most polling places may have tables available, it’s reasonable to assume that not all of them would.

              It’s also good to have a consistent experience across polling places, as well as being recognisably official.

              • felix

                What makes the experience “recognisably official” and “consistent” across polling places?

                Is it the officials in marked clothing? Is it the posters and signage? Is it the presence of the electoral roll? Is it the uniform paperwork?

                Or is it the cardboard booth?

                • Lanthanide

                  All of the above. If any of those things were out of place, I think you’d be right to question it.

                  • felix

                    Really?

                    If you went into a booth and it wasn’t disposable, you’d not trust it?

                    I find your value system arbitrary and confusing.

                    • Lanthanide

                      If I had expectations around what a polling place should consist of, and came across a polling place that did not meet those expectations, then I would be suspicious.

                      Just as anyone would.

                      I simply expect to see cardboard booths as polling places, evidently you don’t have any such expectation.

                      This is of course entirely irrelevant to the point at hand: the crazy activist lady loudly arguing with people that had no control over any part of the process. There’s a time and place (and manner) for those sorts of questions, which she evidently didn’t understand.

                    • felix

                      Irrelevant?

                      My dear boy, this entire discussion is irrelevant.

                      It’s premised on the idea that the polling place you visited was of such a poor standard that you knew who other people there were voting for, yet you’re holding it up as a model of best practice!

                    • Lanthanide

                      Sorry felix but where did I say I “knew” (your word) who she was voting for?

                    • felix

                      You said it was an example of what KK described as “those who vote for” the Greens.

                      Of course, that’s just my simplistic interpretation based on nothing more than the actual words you used, the meanings of them, and the context.

                      I’m sure you have some other, far more interesting way of explaining what you meant that has nothing to do with such mundane tools and I can’t wait to read it.

                    • Lanthanide

                      That doesn’t mean I “know” that she voted for the Greens, just that I’m stereotyping her and assuming she did.

                    • felix

                      Which is precisely why I said the whole discussion is irrelevant.

                      Either you know how she voted, in which case your beloved disposable booths aren’t up to much, or you don’t, in which case your “favourite example” of a green voter was bullshit all along.

              • Colonial Viper

                It’s also good to have a consistent experience across polling places, as well as being recognisably official.

                Indeed. A consistent experience is important for those citizens who intend to vote early, and to vote often on E-day at different polling places.

                • Lanthanide

                  It’s important that no voters can complain that some polling place they voted at influenced their decision, or made it difficult for them to vote. This is best achieved by applying a consistent standard to all official equipment used as part of the election that has been approved by the appropriate official body.

                  • Kevin Welsh

                    Really?

                    I found that the A4 cellotaped to the door that said ‘Polling Booth’, was all I needed.

                    • Lanthanide

                      It’d be easy for someone to set up a fake polling place and rob you of your vote, in that case.

  19. Craig Glen Eden 19

    Once again Shearer shows his inexperience by even entering into a discussion about Ministerial Portfolios. He should of just said we will wait for voters to give us the mandate before we start counting our Chickens.In stead he makes it look like he is already carving the ham and has decided who will get what, this allows Gower to run with division line, when will Shearer learn, I honestly didnt think he would be this bad for this long.

    • Johan 19.1

      I fully agree CGE, it is obvious that Shearer has jumped the gun. In the last election we had many Labour supporters who voted New Zealand First, simply due to lack of choice in Labour leadership. I ask you, has that situation changed with Shearer as leader?? Labour/Green coalition, what a miss-match, since the Greens have already shot themselves in the foot with their method to fix the economy, they simply want to print more money, which will likely increase inflation.
      Also, the Greens want to create more jobs by setting up govt sponsored schemes which means more tax payer money . This simply means borrowing more money from overseas.

      • millsy 19.1.1

        So what would you do? Clearly there is a need for job schemes, because the current practice of sending your CV out and knocking on doors isnt working.

  20. Poission 20

    What sound policy can we see from Norman that would validate his role as Finance minister?

    • Colonial Viper 20.1

      CGT, reform of the RBA, and taking steps to minimise currency war and peak debt effects on our dollar (ie printing money).

      • alwyn 20.1.1

        But Poisson asked for SOUND reasons.
        Printing money indeed. That is a policy that Mugabe followed of course, just on a slightly larger scale.
        I suppose you consider moderate inflation like a little bit pregnant.

        • thatguynz 20.1.1.1

          And the US are doing, and the UK, and Japan.  Not saying I agree with the approach at all but citing Zimbabwe repeatedly is disingenuous.

        • bad12 20.1.1.2

          Check out the US rate of inflation after that country having printed trillions of dollars and the Prez openly saying that He will print and feed into the US economy billions more,

          Printing money does not necessarily lead to run-away inflation, any economy run by any other than some form of Neanderthal race of Chimps knows that money can be printed and spent into an economy in such a fashion as to keep inflation in that economy within the requirements of the stated inflation band policy,

          The present cohort of neanderthal chimps in control of the economy could have instead of borrowing and spending into the economy 300 million dollars a week simply printed and spent the same amount with the exact same inflationary outcome as what borrowing has caused,

          You should educate yourself befor you go tossing the inflation of Zimbabwe into the debate, the printing of money by the Mugabe regime was not the cause of most of this inflation but as a response TO the inflation,

          As a response to the regime in Zimbabwe seizing lands occupied by white farmers ‘the West’ imposed sanctions upon that country severely restricting the import of the necessary goods of daily life, flour, fuel etc etc etc, such goods then had to be smuggled into Zimbabwe from neighbouring countries at a highly inflated price…

      • Neglect is 20.1.2

        Can you clarify your stance cv.
        My understanding is that nz economy is finely balanced at moment and we don’t have the capacity to ‘keep’ the money in the system. If the bounce happens in a few years then our expanded m3 money supply unnaturally unbalanced will cause inflation. We have to borrow from outside in a temp measure as the total borrowed amount will eventually be outflow so an equilibrium is reached. Bigger countries have the capacity to print money as well as borrow as they can absorbe the expanded money supply without inflationary effects when the economy returns to normality.

        If we don’t come out of the crunch then print way upto a point that doesn’t effect inflation.

        • mike e 20.1.2.1

          So all this borrowed money doesn’t cause inflation

          • Neoleftie 20.1.2.1.1

            Not really as at same point you have to repay it so there is net outflow of the money supply and hence inflationary influencers.

            • Colonial Viper 20.1.2.1.1.1

              So, just used a forced savings rate (eg via Kiwisaver) or higher taxes to have the same effect for printed debt free money.

              Anyhows I don’t think your premise is quite right: excess inflation only occurs when the productive (supply) and competitive (non-speculative) aspects of the economy cannot keep up with the volume of cash in circulation.

              This is easily evident in the NZ housing market.

              In the wider economy however we could print the cash required to create 10,000 new full time jobs and no excess inflation would be created – because there is still a massive excess of labour after that point.

              • Neoleftie

                Yes at the moment but what about the bounce effect when normality returns and we are left with An expanded money supply that causes inflationary pressures.

                • Colonial Viper

                  The Chinese have pioneered the way here. When there is a “bounce” or signs of some kind of speculative bubble forming, you withdraw the excess money out of the economy.

                  Many ways of doing this, from increasing bank reserve ratios and tightening lending criteria, to outright forcing increased savings and higher tax rates to pull cash out of the economy.

                  • Neoleftie

                    It disagree money is still in the system just reallocated from one type to another. The only way is a complete transfer out of our economy say overseas investment by SOE on a massive scale.

        • Colonial Viper 20.1.2.2

          Neglect. Country has plenty of spare unused productive capacity, competitive ability and labour at the moment.

          We can print $500M a year into the wider economy (of $202B), and distributed wisely, it would still be just a drop in the bucket. But it would be enough to get massive social, public transport and energy infrastructure projects underway. As well as jobs, lots of jobs.

          • Neoleftie 20.1.2.2.1

            So another think big but with a green tinge funded from non inflationary printed money…correct

  21. felix 21

    Deputy PM?

  22. Rich 22

    I believe that the next left-wing government in NZ will be Green-led with Labour as a support partner.

    We might see Grant Robertson given responsibility for State Services. Apart from that it’s whoever the caucus faction dominant at the time puts forward. Maybe:
    - Trevor Mallard – associate sports
    - John Tamihere – mens affairs
    - Taito Philip Field – (after having been accepted back into the party and given a seat) – associate corrections (from jail)

  23. Robert M 23

    At first glance. I thought the only intelligent response was-leave the country. However on a moments reflection- it is a much better lineup than the National Government and my only real objection is that Cunliffe has to be in a top position preferably finance and I wouldn’t put Norman in a Finance portfolio- but might put him in an environmental or
    local govt position to restore the CRC and stop the expansion of consents in the South Island to stop over use of water and land and the giving of farms to those unsuitable.
    Cunliffe should be an excellent specialist minister and is essential if there is to be any sensible financial and economic budget and the next Labour government not blow out like Whitlams.
    There are half a dozen Nat ministers who are outrageous conservatives or incompetents- English, Smith, Heatley, Wilkinson. Brownlie, Zip it. Collins is also intolerable but I agree with her on D.Bain.
    To me its concievable the presentable, cunning, trained and slick Tolley could win an election but I regard Collins as too large and nasty to be electable.

    • Magnus McManus 23.1

      “the presentable, cunning, trained and slick Tolley”?
      Sorry, what?! The woman’s brain is flat-out counting past 10!

    • Anne 23.2

      Cunliffe has to be in a top position preferably finance…

      At last!! Someone has mentioned Cunliffe. I don’t give a damm about factions. I want to see the very best person holding the Finance portfolio, and that person is Cunliffe.

      • Neoleftie 23.2.1

        Trouble is labour is all about factions and power divisions but yes bring on the man to lead us the people to a better way of life.

  24. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 24

    You’ll have to find room for Winsome.

  25. Chalupa Batman 25

    If it looks like National won’t get the numbers then I’m party voting Labour so hopefully the Greens can get shafted

    • felix 25.1

      That’s an excellent plan, I hope you encourage all your National voting friends to do the same.

      You might also want to consider making a sizable donation.

      • Chalupa Batman 25.1.1

        That’s an excellent plan, I hope you encourage all your National voting friends to do the same.
        -Lesser of two evils

        You might also want to consider making a sizable donation.
        -Don’t think I’ll go that far

        • felix 25.1.1.1

          Gee I wish you’d find a better way to indicate quotes.

          • Chalupa Batman 25.1.1.1.1

            Quote: Gee I wish you’d find a better way to indicate quotes. End quote
            -Better?

            • Te Reo Putake 25.1.1.1.1.1

              Nope. Still illiterate. Have you considered trying quotation marks? They look like this: ”
               
              Your teacher tried teaching you how to use them when you were about seven years old, CB. Remember?

              • Chalupa Batman

                Who says lefties don’t have a sense of humour

                • Albert Roskill

                  Wonder why Cunliffe is not listed, oh that is right because he and all his sycophantic biatches on this site are down a vacuous hole, never to be seen again, sucked in!

    • Reagan Cline 25.2

      I dislike the greens because they use fear about the “end of the world is nigh
      unless you do as we say” tactics to con people into voting for them.

      There is a flash house in Grey Lynn with a green flag and a big fucking wrap around verandah – fuck the bastards !!

      I would vote for any party that pledges “NO ALLIANCE WITH THE GREENS”.

      The greens could kill labour because they put “the environment” before human beings.

      They know fuck all about the “environment” and what they do preach is based on scientific evidence, which by definition is falsifiable.

      • Chalupa Batman 25.2.1

        I have similar viewpoints. Alternative fuels and green-tech may well work in the future but right now we need to encourage more mining. Cunliffe will but the Greens won’t.

        Silent T for all his smugness and arrogance probably does want the best for NZ, the Greens want the best for NZ as long as its an image the Greens approve of

        • McFlock 25.2.1.1

          Fascinating to unpack that statement: the encouragement of labour to split, the assumption that actually deserving the tag “100% pure” is a luxury not a necessity, and the dissonance of talking about the “smugness and arrogance” of “Silent T”.

          Revealing snapshot of your perspective, there.

      • OneTrack 25.2.2

        “I dislike the greens because they use fear about the “end of the world is nigh””

        If they get into power, they will be right.

      • Draco T Bastard 25.2.3

        They know fuck all about the “environment” and what they do preach is based on scientific evidence, which by definition is falsifiable.

        Well, considering that they’re basing their arguments on scientific evidence then it would seem that they know quite a bit and just because scientific evidence is falsifiable doesn’t mean to say that it’s wrong. In fact, it usually means that it’s right because it hasn’t been. All this is in direct contradiction to National and Act whose theories aren’t based upon fact. In fact, if National and Act took note of reality they’d have to throw all their theories and ideas out but they won’t because they’re delusional.

        Once we get an economy based upon reality then we can see some improvement in our living standards and that’s far more likely to come from the Greens than it is from most other parties.

      • millsy 25.2.4

        So you dont support clean air and water regulations then?

    • millsy 25.3

      So I take it you support pollution of our air and water then. Ill let everyone know that they can dump their toxic waste at Chalupa’s house.

      I have a few issues with some Green policies (the fact that a Think Big style programme is needed to achive their objective being one), but the idea that we should conserve resources, and clean up after ourselves is a sound one. Everyone benefits from clean air and water.

    • rtoz 25.4

      Seriously? If you’re really a National supporter, then that’s incredibly short term thinking. The lefties here must be thrilled that there are people who think like you that will further damage National if it is in fact on its way down at the next election.

      • chris73 25.4.1

        Not really. I want National to win (unless Labour ever goes back to its roots as the working mans party which is unlikely) if National can’t win then the next best scenario is Labour with the majority (or at least Labour supplying the Finance minister). Worst case would be Labour winning needing the Greens

        Thus I’ll go for the best of a bad situation

        • felix 25.4.1.1

          What from Labour would constitute, in your view, a return to it’s “roots as the working mans party”?

          Compulsory unionism? Commitment to Clause IV?

          Or what?

  26. millsy 26

    There was talk about inflation further up on this thread.

    I think people are getting too carried away with the evils of inflation, given that our living standards were at their highest during periods of high inflation, sad but true.

    Now with inflation at 0.8% or something like that, we are seeing the concequences in other areas, such as high rents, low wages and conditions for workers, underfunded social and public services, high unemployment, homelessness, underinvestment in infrastructure, and so on and so forth.

    Case in point. The inflation rate was only brought down in this country by massive cuts to public services, closure of hospitals, driving down of wages and conditions, throwing people out of work and closing down industries, cutting benefits, and pricing people out of decent housing, all because some rich pricks didnt want the price of their BMW to go up too much.

    Economics is all about trade offs, and I think that 5-6% inflation is probably nessesary to ensure everyone has a decent standard of living.

  27. …and a pretty good geographic distribution.

    I’m struggling to see your justification for this assertion James. Of the names listed in the “Chosen” column, 4 are currently MP’s for Auckland electorates, 2 are MP’s for Canterbury electorates, and one is an MP for a Maori electorate which encompasses Auckland/Waikato. The rest (11 of them) are currently List MP’s, representing no geographic location. And of the list MP’s, I’d suggest that only Cosgrove would have a sniff of gaining a seat at the next election.

    Contrast this against National’s current cabinet, 20 MP’s in total, with only 5 of them being list MP’s. And outside of Auckland (5) and Canterbury (3), you’ve also got Southland (1), Hawkes Bay (2), East Coast (2), Bay of Plenty (1), and Northland (1) represented.

    I’d argue the “Chosen” list you’ve put together is a very poor geographic distribution, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it would turn out to be the worst geographic distribution the country has ever had.

  28. rtoz 28

    I think you’re a tad confused. Pretty sure he was referring to the geographic distribution of the MPs who make up Cabinet, he didn’t appear to mention electorates or specifically electorate MPs at all.

    I can’t be bothered analysing the actual geographic distribution of the proposed Labour Cabinet, but fillin in the hole you leave in the National Cabinet, you can add Auckland (3) and Wellington (2).

    • Clearly I’m making an implicit assertion that list MP’s don’t have a geographic location.

      I can’t be bothered analysing the actual geographic distribution

      Either could James, it would appear. But I’d ask (the both of you now), if you’re not prepared to do your homework then why are you prepared to offer an opinion?

  29. Meg 29

    Ha I love how you’ve excluded Trade and Primary industries… Obviously not proirities for Labour or the Greens.

  30. You.reap what you sow 30

    Norman as Minister of Finance wont work. Labour, if anything stands for higher employment and opportunities. To do this they need to implement policies that increase the rate of economic growth.

    The Greens are opposed to Growth, unless it fits a tightly defined set of green criteria.

    Norman as MOF would control Labour. It would have the making of a massive interparty disconnect and feud.

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  • Out of touch Brownlee gets numbers wrong
    Gerry Brownlee has shown how badly he is managing the rebuild by getting his figures wrong on how many houses are needed in Christchurch, Labour’s EQC spokesperson Clayton Cosgrove says. “Gerry Brownlee today tried to poor cold water on the...
    Labour | 29-07
  • Annette Sykes to launch campaign for Waiariki Annette Sykes, MANA candidate...
    At midday tomorrow, Annette Sykes will officially launch her campaign to win the Waiariki electorate seat for MANA in the upcoming general election. “A key goal for MANA this election is to mobilise our people to vote, especially rangatahi, and...
    Mana | 28-07
  • Minister shouldn’t stop Fish and Game doing its job
    It seems that Conservation Minister Nick Smith has again been caught out interfering to allow more pollution in our rivers, the Green Party said today. Last year the Department of Conservation submission on the proposed Ruataniwha Dam was suppressed after...
    Greens | 28-07
  • Public deserves electoral integrity
    National's deals with spent political forces ACT and United Future will be met with a deepening sense of unease over the manipulation of MMP, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says."These parties have no electoral mandate and will return to Parliament only...
    Labour | 28-07
  • Out of control costs raise questions about National Science Challenges
    Amid strong criticism of the value of the National Science Challenges from some of the country’s senior scientists, new figures show administrative costs are skyrocketing while the level of investment in actual science remains a mystery, says Labour’s Innovation, Research...
    Labour | 28-07
  • Low build numbers and faulty repairs: what has Brownlee been doing?
    Despite being a man in a hurry new figures show just 2160 new homes, thousands fewer than needed, have been built under Gerry Brownlee in the last two years, say Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford and EQC spokesperson Clayton Cosgrove....
    Labour | 28-07
  • Joyce’s heavy hand stifling innovation
    The National Government should allow scientists and businesses to get on with innovation rather than allow Steven Joyce's heavy hand to direct it, Green Party Co-leader Dr Russel Norman said today. Dr Norman was responding to reports today that several...
    Greens | 27-07
  • CERA spends almost $2m on 7000 flights
    CERA has spent $1.8 million on 7286 flights from Christchurch to Wellington in three years – a huge waste of money as Cantabrians still wait for solutions, Labour’s EQC spokesperson Clayton Cosgrove says. “Of course CERA officials do need to...
    Labour | 27-07
  • Nick Smith oversteps the mark yet again
    Nick Smith has yet again completely overstepped the mark as a minister – this time with a threat to muzzle Fish and Game if they don’t keep in line with Government’s views, says Labour’s Conservation spokesperson Ruth Dyson. “Nick Smith...
    Labour | 27-07
  • Georgina Beyer to stand for MANA in Te Tai Tonga
    “It’s great to have Georgie on board” said Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and Te Tai Tokerau MP.  ”She’s strong-minded, stands up to be counted, and has fought for the rights of those who haven’t had any – and won.  That...
    Mana | 27-07
  • Green Party launches plan to protect our beaches from oil spills
    The Green Party today launched its plan to protect New Zealand beaches from oil spills. The plan is the second component of the Party's environmental priority this election: Rivers clean enough to swim in again, and beaches safe from oil...
    Greens | 26-07
  • Auckland rail use spike shows need to start link now
    The Green Party today welcomes Auckland Transport figures showing rail patronage has soared by 23 percent in June from June 2013, demonstrating both the value of electrification and the need to immediately get cracking building the Auckland City Rail link."We...
    Greens | 25-07
  • Soaring rail use in Auckland shows need for rail link now
    The Green Party today welcomes Auckland Transport figures showing rail patronage has soared by 23 percent in June from June 2013, demonstrating both the value of electrification and the need to immediately get cracking building the Auckland City Rail link."We...
    Greens | 25-07
  • Puhoi-Warkworth decision doesn’t stack up
    The Board of Inquiry decision on the Puhoi-Warkworth motorway gives the green light to a project that doesn’t stack up, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour would spend $320 million immediately to fix the accident black spots, put in...
    Labour | 25-07
  • Key must stand Brownlee down during investigation
    The wise thing for the Prime Minister to do is ask Gerry Brownlee to hand in his transport warrant and to stand him down for the duration of the CAA investigation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “It’s not good enough...
    Labour | 25-07
  • Puhoi highway won’t help Northland roads
    The draft decision by the Environmental Protection Agency to grant resource consent to the proposed $1.65 billion Puhoi motorway doesn't stop it being a waste of money, the Green Party said today. "The Puhoi motorway is an unnecessary waste of...
    Greens | 25-07
  • Green Party to focus on issues not sideshows
    The Green Party has launched its creative for the 2014 election; Love New Zealand. The Green Party campaign focuses on the issues where there is concern that we do not love New Zealand enough; our increasingly polluted environment, increased poverty...
    Greens | 25-07
  • Coleman must come clean about FBI briefing
    Former Immigration Minister Jonathan Coleman must come clean about when he was told the FBI was investigating Kim Dotcom, Labour’s Associate Security and Intelligence spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “Jonathan Coleman has previously said ministers were not aware of the American...
    Labour | 25-07
  • Regional economies need tailored plans
    News that up to 114 jobs could be lost from Fonterra’s Canpac plant in Hamilton reinforces the need for a government plan to build resilient regional economies, Labour’s MP for Hauraki-Waikato Nanaia Mahuta says. “The Canpac site has effectively responded...
    Labour | 25-07
  • Kiwis to get the final vote on amalgamation
    New Zealanders will get the right to have a final say on any proposed local body amalgamations, says Labour’s local government spokesperson Su’a William Sio releasing Labour’s Local Government policy today....
    Labour | 24-07
  • Dr Rajen Prasad’s Valedictory Statement
    Draft Hansard Parliamentary Record. Subject to correction. Bula vinaka. Namaste, Mr Assistant Speaker. Thank you very much. Tēnā koe. I am a lucky migrant and am privileged to have received as much as I have from this country for over...
    Labour | 24-07
  • Darien Fenton’s Valedictory Statement
    Nga mihi nui - kia koutou. I acknowledge all Members of Parliament I have served with and I do so without rancour or criticism. Over nearly nine years in parliament I’ve found that despite furious debate about political difference, most...
    Labour | 24-07
  • Immigation and Kim Dotcom – Harawira
    “I just got a call from National Business Review reporter, asking whether there was any contradiction between my thoughts on immigration in 2009 and now, particularly given MANA’s newly minted relationship with Kim Dotcom” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau...
    Mana | 24-07
  • Nats to announce 2nd crossing without rail
    Labour Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford says it has been leaked to him that John Key will rule out a rail option when announcing an accelerated timeframe for Auckland’s $5 billion second harbour crossing next month. “I understand the Government’s plan...
    Labour | 24-07
  • “They put Maori centre stage” – Harawira
    “I’m sorry I can’t be at parliament for the valedictory speeches of Tariana Turia and Pita Sharples” said Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and MP for Tai Tokerau, ”but I’d like to add my own best wishes as they reach the end...
    Mana | 24-07
  • 2014 and 1914
    Historian Nicholas Boyle (in ‘2014, How to Survive the Next World Crisis‘) foresees a big event happening this decade that will define the global geopolitical environment this century, much as World War 1 created the politics of the 20th century....
    The Daily Blog | 31-07
  • More NZers trust Kim Dotcom than John Key
    When asked by TVNZ who they believed – Kim Dotcom or John Key, an overwhelming number of people backed Kim over John…   Taking into account the bias of land lines opinion polls, that’s an extraordinary result and it’s a result that...
    The Daily Blog | 31-07
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting: Yet more changes at Radio NZ
      Paul Thompson is a man who can move mountains and in moving Radio NZ into another decade, he may have set off an avalanche – Chris Laidlaw retired and  replaced by Wallace Chapman, Geoff Robinson retired and replaced by Susie...
    The Daily Blog | 31-07
  • Jamie Whyte loses the plot and why this is Dame Devoy’s finest hour
    I was a damningly critical voice over Dame Susan Devoy’s appointment as the Race Relations Commissioner, but her righteous condemnation of Jamie Whyte’s farcical statement that Maori somehow have the same legal privilege of 17th Century French Aristocracy is such a courageous stance...
    The Daily Blog | 31-07
  • Latest Roy Morgan Poll: Labour jumps 6.5 points up to 30%, National tumble
    Latest Roy Morgan Poll: National down to 46%, Labour up to 30%, Greens down to 12%, NZ First down to 5%, Maori Party up to 1.5%, Internet MANA up to 2,5%, ACT, United Future and Conservatives stay unchanged. To take into...
    The Daily Blog | 31-07
  • What is the nature of satire? Issues for the Human Rights Commission as the...
    Congratulations to Fairfax media for their detailed coverage of the current Human Rights Commission case being asserted by Louisa Wall that Al Nisbet’s cartoons were racist and deserved censure. Pity Fairfax published the cartoons in the first place however. The Human...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Labour promises $2 boost in minimum wage
    MIL OSI – Source: Unite Union – Headline: Labour promises $2 boost in minimum wage Labour leader David Cinliffe From the New Zealand Herald By Derek Cheng Wednesday July 30, 2014 A $2-an-hour boost to the minimum wage, scrapping the...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • THEY CAN’T ALL WIN OFF THE RACE-CARD – Harawira
    MIL OSI – Source: Mana Movement – Headline: THEY CAN’T ALL WIN OFF THE RACE-CARD – Harawira Posted on July 30, 2014 by admin in Hone Harawira, Press Releases“They can’t all play the race card and expect to win off...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Labours policies a step change for working people
    MIL OSI – Source: CTU – Headline: Labours policies a step change for working people “After six long years of working life getting tougher in New Zealand workers have been given a real choice today with the announcement of Labours...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Novopay’s end must not be bulk funding’s beginning
    MIL OSI – Source: Green Party – Headline: Novopay's end must not be bulk funding's beginning Wednesday, 30 Jul 2014 | Press Release Teachers have endured two years of hell, never knowing from one week to the next if they’ll...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Green Party launches plan to protect our Maui’s dolphins
    MIL OSI – Source: Green Party – Headline: Green Party launches plan to protect our Maui’s dolphins Wednesday, 30 Jul 2014 | Press Release The Green Party today launched its plan to protect the world’s smallest and most endangered dolphin,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • USA: One year after her conviction Chelsea Manning must be released
    MIL OSI – Source: Amnesty International NZ – Headline: USA: One year after her conviction Chelsea Manning must be released Exactly one year after Chelsea Manning was convicted of leaking classified government material, Amnesty International is renewing its call on...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • EU must close all loopholes in the torture trade
    MIL OSI – Source: Amnesty International NZ – Headline: EU must close all loopholes in the torture trade The European Union (EU) must urgently strengthen its laws to enable member states to immediately ban the trade in new devices and...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Swaziland: Deplorable sentences against journalist and lawyer stifle free s...
    MIL OSI – Source: Amnesty International NZ – Headline: Swaziland: Deplorable sentences against journalist and lawyer stifle free speech The sentencing of a newspaper editor and a human rights lawyer to two years in prison on charges of contempt of...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Graduate nurses put pressure on Ryall
    MIL OSI – Source: Labour Party – Headline: Graduate nurses put pressure on Ryall Moves by the Government to increase the number of training placements for nursing graduates will be seen for what they are – a cynical election ploy,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Māori Party blocks the end of slave fishing vessels
    MIL OSI – Source: Labour Party – Headline: Māori Party blocks the end of slave fishing vessels Labour is appalled the Māori Party has refused to allow a final reading of legislation to abolish slavery conditions on foreign charter fishing...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Unconditional Gaza ceasefire needed now
    MIL OSI – Source: Labour Party – Headline: Unconditional Gaza ceasefire needed now The Israeli response in Gaza is disproportionate and with the firing of tanks and mortars into civilian areas, increasingly indiscriminate, says Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer....
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Labour will raise minimum wage, restore work rights
    MIL OSI – Source: Labour Party – Headline: Labour will raise minimum wage, restore work rights A Labour government will raise the minimum wage $2 an hour to $16.25 and restore work rights to ensure the benefits of economic growth...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Taxpayer to fork out millions for Novopay rescue
    MIL OSI – Source: Labour Party – Headline: Taxpayer to fork out millions for Novopay rescue It will be cold comfort to teachers and school staff still struggling with Novopay that the National Government has finally stepped in to rescue...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Auckland consents down second month in a row
    MIL OSI – Source: Labour Party – Headline: Auckland consents down second month in a row National’s housing policy is in disarray with building consents in Auckland falling two months in a row, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford.  “Statistics...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • A brief word on why Murray McCully’s email didn’t work in New York
    Ummmmmmm. What? An email to Foreign Minister Murray McCully’s office about former Malaysian diplomat Muhammed Rizalman bin Ismail invoking diplomatic immunity remained unopened for weeks – allegedly because communications were limited as the minister travelled to New York. So Muzza...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • The infallible NZ Police
    You would think 44 years after one of their own framed an innocent man by planting evidence that the NZ Police would admit they got it wrong. Not so. The whitewash report yesterday into the Crewe murders does the usual...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Just how crazy is ACTs Whyte Supremacy?
    Two reasons why Jamie Whyte’s claim that Maori are as legally privileged as 17th Century French Aristocracy is possibly the most stupid thing anyone has ever said. 1 – That easy-Maori-University-entry chestnut is one of the worst examples the right...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Labour Commits To An End To Factory Farming
    Revelations that the Pigcare Accreditation scheme is still failing animals despite protestations from the Ministry, resulted in a day of national action across the country last Saturday. Thousands rallied in the centres against factory farming for a historic outcome for animals. For the...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Has Apartheid Israel committed war crimes?
    Last week 29 of the UN Human Rights Council’s 47 members voted to set up an inquiry into possible war crimes committed by Apartheid Israel during it’s latest bloody purge of the Palestinian people. It’s interesting to note the only member...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Mr Fixit is broken – Novopay becomes Neverpay
    There are deals so poorly agreed to with the barest amount of oversight green lighted for ideological reasons so mangled and damaged that not even Steven ‘Mr Fixit’ Joyce can dress it up beyond the turd cake it is. Novopay is one...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • The Right-wing – strong on crime!
    . . National, ACT, and the Right, generally, are renowned for being “tough on crime”. What follows are just a few examples,  to illustrate National/ACT’s “toughness”. . . Ms Hauiti isn’t the first MP to mis-use tax-payer’s money, and most...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • The 40 Percent Solution: Chris Trotter responds to Phil Quin.
    PHIL QUIN writes a mean political column. His long-standing connections to the right of the New Zealand Labour Party are extensive and strong. When he writes about politics, especially electoral politics, it is from personal experience and with considerable authority....
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Labour’s new worker policy – $16.25 minimum wage
    Labour’s much anticipated worker policy has been released. It’s a mix of the aspirational and the smart. $15 minimum wage by Christmas this year, bumped up to $16.25 next year while banning the 90 day right to sack laws and...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • The Liberal Agenda: 30th July- 3rd August
    Wednesday GAZA: Setler colonialism, apartheid and resistance panel discussion Want to know more about what’s going down (and has been going down since 1948) in Gaza, and by extension the Palestinian territory?  Come along to this panel discussion. No boring...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • NZIFF: New Zealand’s Best
    Eleven   Saturday night was New Zealand’s Best at the New Zealand International Film Festival. The collection of 6 short films are selected from over a hundred and are all of very high quality. They compete for a number of...
    The Daily Blog | 30-07
  • Govt fudging figures over Transmission Gully – Green Party media release
    MIL OSI – Source: Green Party – Headline: Govt fudging figures over Transmission Gully – Green Party media release Tuesday, 29 Jul 2014 | Press Release “The Government needs to come clean. In fact, the cost is $125 million per...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • New Zealand criticised by Pacific Island leaders
    MIL OSI – Source: Green Party – Headline: New Zealand criticised by Pacific Island leaders Tuesday, 29 Jul 2014 | Press Release “John Key and his government need to step up and take climate change seriously.” New Zealand needs to...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • So where are the Taxpayer’s Union on Simon Bridges luxury oil dinners?
    So where is David Farrar’s astroturf fake union, the Taxpayer’s Union, to criticise the quarter of a million spent on luxury wine and food to woo the oil industry then? Luxury oil summit during Rugby Cup was an ‘investment’Energy Minister...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • ACT show their true racist colours
    ACT Party conference in Epsom last week At some point ACTs low poll ratings were going to have to force ACT to stop pretending to be some free market under grad fantasy and get them back to their true purpose...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • Broken English, broken government, broken climate
    Bill English’s unguarded statements on climate change demonstrate just how out of touch the National Party leadership really is, and how important it is that they should be forced to face facts. A couple of weeks ago finance minister Bill...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Privilege Lost
    Elton John didn’t get it wrong when said that sorry was the hardest word. It’s a word whose mere utterance can be seized upon as a sign of weakness and topic of ridicule, while simultaneously expressing understanding and opening the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • GUEST POST: Curwen Rolinson – A Vote For NZF Is A Vote For NZF – For Na...
    I’m loving this “Duelling Banjos” thing me and Bomber have got going on at the moment - he writes a piece castigating NZF for imminent existential failure due to Cons, I write a refutation setting out why we’ll be back. He writes a...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, holidays
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • Laila Harre to run against Key in Helensville
    Another full house in Rotorua as part of Internet MANAs road trip Another day, another full house for the Internet MANA road trip. John Armstrong understands the energy now swirling around Internet MANA, and the latest announcements of Georgina Beyer...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • Waiting for Gower’s Twittering of indignation…
    .   . Key has made his call; deals with ACT and Peter Dunne are in – a deal with the CCCP (Colin Craig’s Conservative Party), is out; . . Now we can look forward to TV3′s political commentator, Patrick...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • National’s desperate oil drilling agenda exposed
    MIL OSI – Source: Green Party – Headline: National’s desperate oil drilling agenda exposed Tuesday, 29 Jul 2014 | Press Release A Wall Street Journal article exposing the Government’s attempts to lure deep sea oil drillers to New Zealand shows...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • Owner of Kiwis’ favourite tacos takes bold stand for climate action
    MIL OSI – Source: Oxfam NZ – Headline: Owner of Kiwis' favourite tacos takes bold stand for climate action The maker of Old El Paso tacos, Betty Crocker cake mixes and Haagan Daz ice-cream has today committed to industry-leading measures...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • Out of touch Brownlee gets numbers wrong
    MIL OSI – Source: Labour Party – Headline: Out of touch Brownlee gets numbers wrong Gerry Brownlee has shown how badly he is managing the rebuild by getting his figures wrong on how many houses are needed in Christchurch, Labour’s...
    The Daily Blog | 29-07
  • GUEST BLOG: Michael Wood: Weekend at Bernie’s lll – ACT in Epsom
    While no one will be surprised by yesterday’s deal to prop up ACT in Epsom, the audacity of it is still astounding. ACT is a political corpse. Their sole MP has been found guilty of electoral fraud and bides his...
    The Daily Blog | 28-07
  • So how’s all the ‘ Labour Party man ban’ hysteria working out for you...
    Remember all the screams from the media at the so called ‘man ban’ of the Labour Party? Labour’s attempt at gender equality was really just more evidence of Labour’s man hate,  feminists were taking over, heterosexual red blooded men burnt at the stake....
    The Daily Blog | 28-07
  • Paul Henry; the issue is you, not flag-burning
    There will always be reductive, dangerous and reactionary responses to different forms of oppressive violence by our western, often biased, mainstream media. These reactionary responses purposefully distract from the real issues and those who are at the root and the...
    The Daily Blog | 28-07
  • Oh now John Armstrong and Vernon Small want to talk about policy?
    The audacity of the mainstream media seems to know no end. This week both John Armstrong and Vernon Small had the hilarity to demand a focus on policy and not ‘gotcha’ politics… John Armstrong: The ‘gotcha politics’ disease is afflicting...
    The Daily Blog | 28-07
  • “They put Maori centre stage” – Harawira
    MIL OSI – Source: Mana Movement – Headline: “They put Maori centre stage” – Harawira  Posted on July 24, 2014 by admin in Hone Harawira, Press Releases“I’m sorry I can’t be at parliament for the valedictory speeches of Tariana Turia...
    The Daily Blog | 28-07
  • Technology get dangerous vehicles and drivers off roads
    Police is expanding its use of automated technology to catch criminals and make the roads safer for all users....
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Seafood NZ Says Kaikoura Conservation Legislation a Template
    Seafood New Zealand has hailed the passage of the Kaikoura (Te Tai-o-Marokura) Marine Management Bill by Parliament today as a template for seafood and environment conservation measures throughout New Zealand. Parliament passed the bill into law on the last...
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Whale Watch Kaikoura Welcomes Third Reading of Bill
    Whale Watch Kaikoura General Manager Kauahi Ngapora today welcomed the third reading of the Kaikōura (Te Tai ō Marokura) Marine Management Bill....
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • NZ performers welcome Labour Party proposal
    NZ performers welcome Labour Party proposal to restore fairness and certainty for NZ workers Equity New Zealand today welcomed the announcement by the Labour Party that if elected, it would restore the right of film and television workers to collective...
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Tear Fund’s Obsession: Food And Sex (Trafficking)
    Food and sex have always been kindred bedfellows; both are sensory experiences that ignite the passions. For TEAR Fund, however, the relationship is less savoury and more complex. We work in the darkest brothels of Southeast Asia where young girls...
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Poll July 14-27: Nat 46% Lab 30% Gr 12% NZ1 5%
    National (46%) lead over Labour/ Greens (42%) cut significantly as Key rules out deal with Conservative Party but says National would consider a deal with NZ First (5%)...
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Study could be used to counter high suicide rates
    Should social media companies such as Facebook and Twitter be subject to moral obligations with regards to their customers' mental health? In the wake of the furore following the “Emotional Contagion” study carried out by Facebook themselves, the question...
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Labour’s Minimum Wage Proposal a Backward Step
    Democrats for Social Credit finance spokesperson Chris Leitch has attacked Labour’s proposals to increase the minimum wage labelling it ”a backward step for low and middle income earners”....
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Sealord applauds passing of Fisheries FCV Bill
    Sealord Group has welcomed the passing of the Fisheries (Foreign Charter Vessels) Amendment Bill as a move that will safeguard workers and protect New Zealand’s sustainable fishing reputation....
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Liam Butler interviews Hon David Cunliffe
    With older Kiwis comprising a growing proportion of New Zealand's population we all need to recognise the significant contribution they make to society - not only as taxpayers and consumers, but as employers, paid workers and volunteers....
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • GC Star Supports Beyer
    Star of reality TV series The GC, Alby Waititi, has thrown his support behind Mana’s Te Tai Tonga candidate Georgina Beyer....
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • New ACC Executive appointments announced
    ACC Chief Executive Scott Pickering today announced appointments to the ACC Executive Team effective from 1 September. The new Executive, which contains new roles and responsibilities, contains five members of the existing Executive and two new appointments....
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Ministry CEO Hides in Office for Award Ceremony
    Following this morning’s coverage of the extravagant expenditure by Pauline Winter, the CEO of the Ministry of Pacific Island Affairs, Porky the Taxpayers’ Union mascot visited the Ministry’s Wellington Office to present the Union’s first “Troughing...
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Students’ first-in-family policy needs support
    Free education for the first person in a family to undertake tertiary study is a creative, innovative and transformative proposal from New Zealand students, says TEU vice-president Sandra Grey....
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Fishing Bill a major step towards fixing industry problems
    The Maritime Union says the passing of a bill reforming the fishing industry is a major step in fixing serious problems....
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Waikato-Tainui marae to receive $15 million top up
    Waikato-Tainui Te Kauhanganui marae are set to receive a one-off grant worth more than $15 million. Following the call from Te Kauhanganui, sixty-six marae will receive a base grant of $150,000 and an additional per capita grant based on the...
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Outdoor Council Backs Fish and Game in Minister Smith Stoush
    A national outdoor recreation council has backed Fish and Game in the wake of an argument with Conservation Minister Nick Smith over the organisation's advocacy role for cleaning up New Zealand's rivers from a deteriorating state....
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Income Equality Aotearoa New Zealand Inc. – Closing the Gap
    Simon Bridges says increasing the minimum wage will cost us at least 6000 jobs, hurt businesses and reduce growth. Rubbish, says Peter Malcolm National Secretary of Income Equality Aotearoa New Zealand Inc....
    Scoop politics | 31-07
  • Call on Pauline Winter to Front up Or Resign
    Responding to the Fairfax report that taxpayers are footing the bill for the Ministry of Pacific Island Affairs’ Chief Executive and to fly to Auckland most weekends, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Petition generates progress for new nurses
    Last week the New Zealand Nurses Organisation (NZNO) launched a petition to get a nurse entry to practice (NEtP) programme for every new graduate nurse. This week, and more than 7,000 signatures later, we are very pleased to hear the...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • NZ Parliament backs media freedom in West Papua
    West Papua Action Auckland applauds the decision of the New Zealand Parliament to give its backing to genuine media freedom for local and international journalists in West Papua....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Wellington protest rally to march for Gaza
    “Marchers from Wellington Students for Justice in Palestine intend to lay memorials at the Rabin memorial in Harris Street during a protest rally on Saturday. The names of some child victims of the Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip will...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte calls Dame Susan Devoy to resign
    Dame Susan Devoy has responded to my speech calling for racial equality by publicly condemning it as “grotesque and inflammatory"....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • WW1 anniversary: Peace vigils on 4 August
    Monday, 4 August, is the 100th anniversary of the start of World War One, "the war to end all wars". Peace Movement Aotearoa, in association with Quakers, is coordinating nation-wide candle-lit vigils on 4 August, in conjunction with peace...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Making It Easier for Disabled Voters to Have Their Say
    The Electoral Commission is making it easier for disabled New Zealanders to enrol and vote, with the confirmation that telephone dictation voting will be in place for the 2014 general election....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • AA welcomes lower drink-driving limit
    Lowering the adult drink driving limit is one good step forward in making our roads safer, says the Automobile Association. Parliament voted last night to reduce the blood alcohol limit to .05 for drivers aged 20 or over. The AA...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • RSA welcomes Veterans Support Act
    The Royal New Zealand Returned and Services Association welcomes the passage of the Veterans Support Act into law tonight. RSA National President, Don McIver, says that while it has taken a long time to get to this point, and there...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Political debate Thursday July 31st at Whanau Centre
    Waipareira will host a political debate on Thursday at Whanau Centre, Henderson, starting at 7pm. Hosted by broadcaster Willie Jackson, candidates will be asked the tough questions about Whanau Ora, the future of the Maori Seats, Housing, Child Poverty...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • They Can’t All Win Off the Race-Card
    “They can’t all play the race card and expect to win off it”, said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira, following comments by ACT Leader Jamie Whyte, Conservative Leader Colin Craig, and NZ First Leader Winston...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • New Zealanders Being Gouged by Electricity and Liquid Fuels
    New Zealand consumers of electricity are being price gouged to the tune of about $1.388 million while the companies pocket the profits, a new economic analysis released today by the Iwi Leaders Forum reveals....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Push For Gender Confusion In Schools
    Family First NZ is warning schools about an agenda to bring gender confusion in to schools in areas such as changing rooms, sports teams and school uniforms....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Labour work and wages policy good for working people
    The Maritime Union says Labour’s new policy on work and wages, announced today, is good for the working people of New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Joint Statement on EU-New Zealand Partnership Agreement
    Joint Statement on EU-New Zealand Partnership Agreement on Relations and Cooperation (PARC) by High Representative for EU Foreign and Security Policy Catherine Ashton and New Zealand Foreign Minister Murray McCully...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Time to lift unliveable wage rates
    The Service and Food Workers Union has welcomed Labour’s determination to lift New Zealand’s unliveable wage rates. The Labour Party today announced their Work and Wages policy....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Judith Collins and Women’s Refuge – ‘Doing a Katie Bradford’
    In Rethinking’s latest blog; http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/07/judith-collins-and-womens-refuge.html Kim Workman suggests that Ms Collins treatment of the Women’s Refuge in a recent Q and A interview, could spark a new slang term in the national lexicon – ‘Doing...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Independent candidate advocates monetary paradigm shift
    Waikanae veterinarian Dr Amanda Vickers is standing as an independent for the Otaki electorate, with a view to modernise monetary policy....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Review of Radiocommunications Act 1989
    The Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment (MBIE) has today published a discussion document reviewing New Zealand’s Radiocommunications Act 1989. The discussion document looks at issues including competition regulation, technical parameters on...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Unite Union welcomes Labour Party increase to minimum wage
    Unite Union welcomes the announcement today by the Labour Party to increase the minimum wage by $2 per hour by early 2015....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Taxing Struggling Families to Boost Bureaucrats Shameful
    Responding to Labour leader David Cunliffe’s announcement that a Labour Government would ensure public servants would receive at least the Living Wage, significantly more than their private sector counterparts, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Labour reforms show commitment to tackling inequality
    The NZ Labour Party’s just-announced industrial relations agenda demonstrates a clear commitment to tackling the growing inequality in New Zealand and restore democracy to our workplaces, according to FIRST Union....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Debacle shows danger of contracting out public services
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says the Novopay debacle shows core public services are best provided in-house....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Public servants welcome Labour’s living wage announcement
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says Labour’s commitment to ensure all core public service workers are paid at least the living wage will be welcome news to thousands of hard working New Zealanders....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Commission urges politicians to stick to the major issues
    In the run up to the general election Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy is urging politicians to “do the right thing and stick to those major issues that will help make New Zealand a better place for all our...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Statement on behalf of Rochelle Crewe
    Rochelle Crewe has lived a life of anonymity. The tragic killing of her parents in 1970, when she was only 18 months old, has understandably been the subject of much media attention in this country in the four decades since....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • All parties need to help save Maui’s dolphins
    Forest & Bird is urging all political parties to adopt the recommendations of scientists - and the International Whaling Commission - in order to save to save the Maui’s dolphin from extinction....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Navigating Our Future Conference: Leaders’ Dialogue
    As pre-election positioning heats up and the environment has emerged as a key issue, the Leaders’ Dialogue at EDS’s annual conference next week will be an opportunity to interrogate the main parties....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Labour’s policy promises a return to fairness at work
    Workers across New Zealand will benefit from the Labour Party’s work and wages policy, says the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union. “Labour’s policy is a comprehensive package which will lift wages, lower unemployment, and build a...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Labour’s policies a step change for working people
    “After six long years of working life getting tougher in New Zealand workers have been given a real choice today with the announcement of Labour's Industrial Relations policy package,” CTU President Helen Kelly said....
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Tear Fund Launches Emergency Appeal for Gaza
    As the death toll surpasses 1000 in Gaza, TEAR Fund has launched an appeal to help civilians caught up in the conflict between Israel and Palestine. TEAR Fund CEO and chairman of the NGO Disaster Relief Forum Ian McInnes said,...
    Scoop politics | 30-07
  • Democrats for Social Credit Party celebrates 60 years
    Monetary reformers from across New Zealand will celebrate the Democrats for Social Credit Party’s (DSC) 60th anniversary at its annual conference at Quality Hotel Elms in Christchurch this weekend....
    Scoop politics | 29-07
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