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Ministers in a Lab/Green govt

Written By: - Date published: 7:32 am, December 4th, 2012 - 142 comments
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Paddy Gower looked fit to burst with excitement over ‘Greens and Labour fighting over Finance portfolio‘ last night. Of course, the actual quote not so exciting – just Russel Norman saying it was one portfolio that would be the subject of negotiations in the formation of a Labour/Green government. But it does raise a valid question – who would be ministers in a Labour/Green government?

OK. First off, lets assume the government MPs are 30% Green, 70% Labour – roughly in line with the current polls. Next, we’ll have to assume that the current portfolios hold – ie Shearer is leader, Cunliffe is in purgatory for the sin of not having a dirt operation on the scale of Mallard/Hipkins/Mold/Robertson, and Jones has no portfolios either. However, we will assume that King leaves for Wellington mayoralty (the housing policy will help with that – and she’ll be gone before its economics get torn apart in the full election release).

I’ve chosen what I regard as the top 20 portfolios – the ones that wouldn’t usually be held simultaneously with any of the others in the top 20 – and looked at the spokesperson from each party for each. Simply, I’ve chosen the best of the options in each portfolio – excepting that Shearer would be PM. And I’ve made a few changes where there’s someone else better than either incumbent or political necessity.

There’s 7 Greens out of 19 there, over-represented on the current polls but, in reality, Norman would probably get Economic Development and Parker Finance – the trade-off would be an extra Green Cabinet minister.

There’s a problem with Justice and Attorney-General. They shouldn’t both be Chauvel but there’s not many spare lawyers with an interest in justice in the ranks.

For the ministers outside Cabinet (Key has a record 28 ministers) I would choose Walker (would be in Cabinet except giving Turei MSD means giving Ardern Housing), Delahunty, Clark, Sio, O’Connor, Fenton, Curran, Mackey and Street.

All up, it’s 12 women (4 on the front bench), 3 Maori, 2 Pasifika, 3 gay, and a pretty good geographic distribution.

I have to say, I like the look of that Cabinet. They would have much better policy, of course and, apart from the top name, nearly all of them would better the current minister in sheer competence.

142 comments on “Ministers in a Lab/Green govt”

  1. karol 1

    My question is why Gower is so quick to anoint a Shearer-Norman led government?  That was the subtext of his little puff-piece.  TV3 is going all-out spinning for this since the Labour conference.

    If there was a Labour-led government, are there any likely ex-MP candidates that would return to parliament, and who might be front bench material? 

    • toad 1.1

      Carmel Sepuloni, Stuart Nash?

      • Lanthanide 1.1.1

        Darren Hughes? Could come back in 2014 and potential get an associate position, and move up in 2017.

        • King Kong 1.1.1.1

          I would run screaming and naked through the streets if that ever happened.

          • lprent 1.1.1.1.1

            Bookmark that comment. But you really have to give an opportunity to us all to get the buttocks shot with the dangling shriveled penis…

    • Yep Gower’s spin is appalling.  He kept saying that Shearer was being undermined.  All that I saw was a damned good debate and an increase in democracy in the party and then a speech from Shearer that was well received.

      Then they try to paint the labour in turmoil meme and Labour goes up in the polls.

      As to motivation, well the assistance that this Government has given to mediaworks speaks volumes … 

      • King Kong 1.2.1

        Ha ha. Your spin isn’t so flash either. You really can’t expect us to buy this “passion of the Cunliffe” stuff.

        • Craig Glen Eden 1.2.1.1

          No King Kong believe Gower Cunliffe was going to do a take over at conference and Shearer is amazing best thing since…..since….. ABC.

          • King Kong 1.2.1.1.1

            The Gospel According to [deleted]

            And lo, the savior rode into conference on a donkey and the members fell at his feet and there was much rejoicing. The shadow cabinet saw this and they became afraid.

            During the procession a member asked “Messiah how can we serve you better?” and the savior replied “The jealousy of man is strong when faced with my omnipotent radiance. Lower the threshold for my ascension to the throne and the kingdom of the Labour party shall be yours, my member”

            Later that night as the disciples shared a meal the Messiah touched Nania and Charles gently on the face and spoke. “Tomorrow a cock (from TV3 news) will crow 8 times and my purpose will be betrayed. All through that night the savior was alone, starring at his reflection in a pool.

            Three days after the glorious entrance at conference, our savior was hauled in front of the caucus. “So you call yourself King of the party” accused Pontius Shearer. With a holy countenance the Messiah replied “You may strike me down now but untold riches await my resurrection in February for the will of my children will be done”

            [lprent: I'm not happy with using real names for no apparent reason especially in view of some of the legislative pogroms that seem to be looming on the horizion. As soon as my current workload subsides, I will talking around the authors about adding substantial portions of RFC1855 to our policy, especially the sections on respecting pseudonymous handles.

            And repetition by you and some of the others who try to sneak them in is going to be unwise in the interim. I'm liable to start high in my personal moderator deterrence and get higher. ]

            • alwyn 1.2.1.1.1.1

              I’m not sure what you are smoking but please tell me where I can get some.
              The image you conjure up is a wonderful one.

            • Lanthanide 1.2.1.1.1.2

              Hah, nice RFC, haven’t seen that before.

              • lprent

                As you can see it has been around for a while. It was just a compendium of things that were common before usenet on other forums like BBS’s. You find the same general principles in all subsequent net forums.

                Wish the legislators would make and effort to read what net cultures have already developed for them.

      • ad 1.2.2

        I think it’s good that the story is moving on from “who will lead the Labour Party” to “The inevitability of a Labour-Green coalition”.

        Gower isn’t going to change. The Shearer leadership has used him, and the rest of the MSM, the best.

        The MSM is being employed to help write the narrative of inevitable success and in turn to write history towards the next election.

        Long may it last.

      • The Fan Club 1.2.3

        Hey how’d the complaint to NZ Council go then eh? What a bunch of whingers.

        • mickysavage 1.2.3.1

          FC as usual you are Anything But Coherent.

          • The Fan Club 1.2.3.1.1

            Ohh so not so good then? What. A. Shame.

            • the pigman 1.2.3.1.1.1

              You are such a sarcastic little cock. Keep lapping up Grant Robertson’s KoolAid (or whatever else he’s got you and your Young Labour chums on) and quit attacking a member with the best interests of his branch/country at heart.

              Hope the weather is fine in Wellywood.

              • The Fan Club

                Now now, watch the expletives. It lowers the discursive tone.

                (And yeah. I’m not a Wellingtonian, or a Young Labour member. So yeah. Better luck next time.)

    • Peter 1.3

      Right now the MSM are trying to portray the L/G side as overconfident and incompetent. Instead of being baited into answering questions about who will be doing what in the first hypothetical Labour/Green coalition party, leaders would be better off increasing their electoral following. The loaded questions of the MSM are only of interest if L/G win in two years time.

      • xtasy 1.3.1

        Peter:

        Yes, I am afraid, that is what seems to be going on, especially via TV3 and their news reporters.

        The creeping up polls for L/G and decline of Key and Nats do not go down well with some of their staff, I am sure. Discredit the opposition now, so they get stunted again, that is the MSM agenda.

        • karol 1.3.1.1

          While ultimately the end result may be the MSM turning against Team Shearer, I really don’t think the majority of them think that far ahead.

          There may be one or two influential people deliberately aiming for that.  But i think most of the people in news teams won’t be thinking far ahead on political strategies. 

          I think it’s more likely that many news people will just repeat the narratives that make most sense to them in terms of their own political positions: e.g. they may just prefer the right wing Labour attitudes tho the left wingers asking for a more radical break with the neoliberal consensus.

          Whatever the news people have in mind, the are producing a low quality news product that is very skewed political.  They are not doing what Nicky Hager values: relentlessly seeking facts and truth.

          They are constructing a narrative that doesn’t match up with all the facts available.  It is a clumsy and distorted construction of Shearer being the best leader Labour can offer, and the most likely next PM – at least that’s the MSM/TV3 narrative for now, and probably til February. 

          • xtasy 1.3.1.1.1

            MSM = may be a bit like the “endless” gossiping parroting chain, doing the merry go round “I have heard”, “oh, I told you so”, “see, that is what they are all about”, “oh, yes, I must agree”, “oh, really, that is interesting”, “yes, I agree”, as “I have no mind of my own”.

            Story written, printed, read, broadcast, done.

            analysis – zilch
            facts – zilch
            objectivity – zilch

          • BLiP 1.3.1.1.2

            .

            Bingo! The MSM focus is on what might happen somewhere else rather than what is actually happening right in front of their noses – National Ltd™ systematically handing over public assets and resources to its international business mates, and lying while doing it. Still, relentlessly seeking facts and telling truth to power requires time and resources, something the frontline MSM “journalists” are short of, and deliberately so, thanks to deliberate underfunding. The last thing the MSM wants is an informed public.

  2. Brad 2

    LOL. The Greens would need at least half of Labour’s vote to even consider getting Finance. As Shearer said, it’s not going to happen.

    • Crimson Nile 2.1

      Although in counterpoint, Labour will need at least half of the Green Party’s vote to even consider getting into Government. It could be considered a sensible political trade.

  3. Tom Gould 3

    If ever the Tories needed a lifeline, you just gave it to them. Besides, the Greens would be more likely to get slots outside Cabinet. Only Norman and perhaps Turei have shown any real aptitude for the rigors of Ministerial responsibility, inside Cabinet, and maybe Graham who would make a fine Attorney General and even Treaty negotiations. As for the finance role, that would go to Parker to settle the markets and prevent a run of the currency, and Norman would have to settle for economic development with a mandate to work up the eco-economy stuff. That’s about it for them.

  4. higherstandard 4

    Interesting, with a few notable exceptions this just shows that, along with the incumbent ministers there is a woeful lack of talent amongst our current crop of politicians/troughers.

  5. just saying 5

    Your predictions seem likely. I think there would be real benefit to shaking things up, but that never happens.

    For example, I’d prefer Little to take education. Partly I guess, because I can just see him being the bearer of the shit sandwich to workers, of labour laws that change sfa. And hard-selling them as being another of those ‘necessary compromises’ that union management has become expert in promoting to members as ‘reasonable’ and ‘inevitable’.

  6. Bunji 6

    Obviously Parker and Norman switch from your list as you say. And a good line up.
    A couple of thoughts: It would be hard to take King and Fenton off their portfolios as they (especially King) are making a good fist of them. Little might have to bide his time, but Ardern does need something senior… (Health?)
    Similarly Twyford has to be in there, but surely you’e got to have a Green on Environment (Hague?)? (Twyford for Police?)
    A few tough choices to work out, but definitely like the list.

  7. Hilary 7

    What about Broadcasting or Disability Issues? Education and Health also need a couple of associates, and Special Ed will be particularly important by 2014 as schools are expected to be inclusive by then and if not will require a lot of attention.

    Mana, the Maori Party and NZ First are likely to be there too and may expect cabinet positions.

  8. Bill 8

    Somebody needs to haul Gower’s head out from whosever arse he has it firmly planted up and give it a good slapping.

    This Norman thing looks like carbon copy of the technique used on Cunliffe with the same intended consequences – a manufactured scenario that presents the puppet boy with an opportunity to look independent and decisive.

    • karol 8.1

      It’s probably not just Gower, but a TV3 News thing.  It goes hand-in-hand with Garner’s reporting that reinforces the worthiness of Shearer (e.g. his analysis of the poll results); plus the News anchors’ summarising Gower’s reports and unsubstantiated conclusions as if they are statements of fact.

      Who benefits?  Maybe look at Labour’s potential policies on reviving public broadcasting? How it might benefit TV3 to have a weak and right-leaning PM overseeing the policy developments?

      • Bill 8.1.1

        I’m tempted to be a tad more cynical and suggest that whereas Paddy might be somewhat directed by the ABC clique, the natural inclination of TV3 would be to happily to pump up Shearer short term because he can he so easily and so completely destroyed pre-election – unlike the situation were a certain back bencher to assume leadership of the party.

        • geoff 8.1.1.1

          Absolutely Bill, the likes of Gower would love to see Shearer fall to pieces during the election campaign in front of their cameras.

          • Akldnut 8.1.1.1.1

            Spot on Bill, Shearer is being pumped up purely because he will be decimated by Key and his cronies come next election, they (Gower and other political reporters) can clearly see this and have already started maneuvering with this in mind.

  9. Peter 9

    You missed out the most important portfolio – conservation. There’s a massive job there to rebuild morale within the Department and generally fix things up after 6 years of Wilkinson’s mess.

    I’d pick Eugenie Sage for that.

  10. Lanthanide 10

    Oh god, not Hughes in any position of responsibility.

    • King Kong 10.1

      By just suggesting that little dweeb is Ministerial potential has stripped any credibility from this post.

      I would be nervous about him running the fries section at the local McDonalds (if only because he is not tall enough to reach the handles).

  11. cardassian 11

    You’ve given Little labour and police.

  12. marsman 12

    Gower has become a shrieking turd focusing on manufacturing ‘news’, neither he nor the bombastic self-important Garner seem to have a clue about journalism let alone investigative journalism.

  13. arants 13

    What about the Trade portfolio? Labour’s recent Conference remits have effectively withdrawn support for the TPPA in anything like its current form. However, Goff & Cosgrove are actively undermining this position, stridently supporting TPPA during the current Auckland round. If Shearer doesn’t bring them to heel they could do more damage to a potential coalition than Jones.

  14. ad 14

    Isn’t this a whole lot more fun than obscure arguments about which policy isn’t extreme enough?

    Feels like a tide turning!

    Anyone want to admit the pro-Shearer writers were right yet? Too early?

    • King Kong 14.1

      Please don’t make them apologise. There are some great prototype National election ads ready to go and they wont work if all the crazys show contrition and admit poor judgement.

      The one I saw goes along the lines of;

      “Political lightweight”, “Mr Bumbles”, “too inexperienced”, “doesn’t know what he stands for”, “lacks integrity”, “Just a puppet for a powerful cabal” – And that is just what the Labour party members say about David Shearer.

      • Draco T Bastard 14.1.1

        There are some great prototype National election ads ready to go and they wont work if all the crazys show contrition and admit poor judgement.

        But neither National nor Act will ever show contrition and admit poor judgement. It’s part of their psychology – they actually think that they’re right all the time even when the evidence shows that they’re wrong.

        • Akldnut 14.1.1.1

          “doesn’t know what he stands for”, “lacks integrity”, “Just a puppet for a powerful cabal”

          You just described John Key but missed out “Liar, ripoff merchant & prince of clowns and photo ops “

        • Pascal's bookie 14.1.1.2

          No party wants to start on that game KK.

          It’s a M.A.D. M.A.D. world.

        • OneTrack 14.1.1.3

          Exactly like Labour and the Greens.

      • Blue 14.1.2

        There are some great prototype National election ads ready to go

        I thought they were going to use the photos of John Key eating maggots with Bear Grylls.

  15. Jackal 15

    James Henderson

    Apart from the top name, nearly all of them would better the current minister in sheer competence?

    You can’t honestly be arguing that Shearer should eat some crickets and maggots, decrease our clean and green branding by millions if not billions of dollars with a few untimely off the cuff remarks and being an international disgrace in terms of GHG emissions and negotiations not to mention insulting a sports super star and many in the gay community by trying to appear blokey? Personally I would have thought the high unemployment rate and increased inequality etc etc would reflect on Keys ability as a so-called leader of New Zealand? But I guess your comparison of competence as Prime Minister is a relative thing dependent on your preference of Labour leader or something?

    Having said that I think your list is pretty spot on. I would like to see a 50/50 split though re male and female (a pipe dream at this stage) and some more fresh faces in there… Although Hughes as Minister of energy will be strongly resisted, good call. I would also give Phil Goff the NZ Security Service portfolio with Shearer perhaps having Foreign Affairs LOL. Shearer is reasonably qualified in that area and will have gained international respect for his previous humanitarian work. Goff is the man to sort out our faulty security services. I think it’s important that trade becomes more conscientious and besides, Labour could take a leaf out of the Nats playbook and effectively whisk the PM away in the face of any controversy. I think it’s more likely that Parker will get finance, but I guess that all depends on how the vote goes in 2014.

  16. Bliss, two clowns with absolutely no idea about international finance with Russel actually actively ignoring what is happening internationally vying for the position of finance minister. That will really help New Zealand over the next couple of years as the global finance scam implodes.

  17. Matthew Hooton 17

    List looks about right, except Tamihere will be Social Development.

    • millsy 17.1

      His first act being to deny the sickness benefit to those with HIV.

      • Colonial Viper 17.1.1

        Yep. If you contracted it through a blood transfusion you’ll be OK, if you caught it through being gay, you’re history.

    • Lightly 17.2

      tamihere won’t even be ranked high enough to get in, if he makes the list at all. Remember, there’s reforms coming to give the membership more power over that – so being Shearer’s drinking buddy won’t be enough. JT’s obviously worked out he’ll never get the LEC onside to Waitakere.

  18. millsy 18

    The main portfolios will go to Labour ministers, but I reckon the Greens will get Conservation. I’m also going to make a curly call, and give Science and Innovation/CRI’s to Norman, then he can set about implementing his green economic strategy without seeming to frighten the horses.

    • Lightly 18.1

      why would the greens be fobbed off with minor portfolios? How would that represent the people who voted for them?

      • King Kong 18.1.1

        They would best represent those who vote for them by keeping lots of cats and talking to themselves in the aisles of New World.

        • Lanthanide 18.1.1.1

          Or my favourite example, when I went to vote in 2008 at a somewhat busy polling place, an ‘activist’ woman harangued the voting officials asking them why the podiums and tables were made out of cardboard and whether they would be stored away for future elections or just thrown out, and shouldn’t they just be using perfectly acceptable wooden trestle tables etc.

          • felix 18.1.1.1.1

            A reasonable question, given that most polling places have no shortage of tables and desks. Do you have a reasonable answer?

            • King Kong 18.1.1.1.1.1

              Calm down and feed your cats

              • felix

                Have you noticed the alarming increase in numbers of multi-cat people who talk to themselves in the supie? 11% in the last election and 13% in recent polls.

                On the other hand it could be that your lazy attempt at stereotype humour is a bit flacid.

              • mike e

                Felix cats cost more than your peanuts

            • Lanthanide 18.1.1.1.1.2

              I should imagine that while most polling places may have tables available, it’s reasonable to assume that not all of them would.

              It’s also good to have a consistent experience across polling places, as well as being recognisably official.

              • felix

                What makes the experience “recognisably official” and “consistent” across polling places?

                Is it the officials in marked clothing? Is it the posters and signage? Is it the presence of the electoral roll? Is it the uniform paperwork?

                Or is it the cardboard booth?

                • Lanthanide

                  All of the above. If any of those things were out of place, I think you’d be right to question it.

                  • felix

                    Really?

                    If you went into a booth and it wasn’t disposable, you’d not trust it?

                    I find your value system arbitrary and confusing.

                    • Lanthanide

                      If I had expectations around what a polling place should consist of, and came across a polling place that did not meet those expectations, then I would be suspicious.

                      Just as anyone would.

                      I simply expect to see cardboard booths as polling places, evidently you don’t have any such expectation.

                      This is of course entirely irrelevant to the point at hand: the crazy activist lady loudly arguing with people that had no control over any part of the process. There’s a time and place (and manner) for those sorts of questions, which she evidently didn’t understand.

                    • felix

                      Irrelevant?

                      My dear boy, this entire discussion is irrelevant.

                      It’s premised on the idea that the polling place you visited was of such a poor standard that you knew who other people there were voting for, yet you’re holding it up as a model of best practice!

                    • Lanthanide

                      Sorry felix but where did I say I “knew” (your word) who she was voting for?

                    • felix

                      You said it was an example of what KK described as “those who vote for” the Greens.

                      Of course, that’s just my simplistic interpretation based on nothing more than the actual words you used, the meanings of them, and the context.

                      I’m sure you have some other, far more interesting way of explaining what you meant that has nothing to do with such mundane tools and I can’t wait to read it.

                    • Lanthanide

                      That doesn’t mean I “know” that she voted for the Greens, just that I’m stereotyping her and assuming she did.

                    • felix

                      Which is precisely why I said the whole discussion is irrelevant.

                      Either you know how she voted, in which case your beloved disposable booths aren’t up to much, or you don’t, in which case your “favourite example” of a green voter was bullshit all along.

              • Colonial Viper

                It’s also good to have a consistent experience across polling places, as well as being recognisably official.

                Indeed. A consistent experience is important for those citizens who intend to vote early, and to vote often on E-day at different polling places.

                • Lanthanide

                  It’s important that no voters can complain that some polling place they voted at influenced their decision, or made it difficult for them to vote. This is best achieved by applying a consistent standard to all official equipment used as part of the election that has been approved by the appropriate official body.

                  • Kevin Welsh

                    Really?

                    I found that the A4 cellotaped to the door that said ‘Polling Booth’, was all I needed.

                    • Lanthanide

                      It’d be easy for someone to set up a fake polling place and rob you of your vote, in that case.

  19. Craig Glen Eden 19

    Once again Shearer shows his inexperience by even entering into a discussion about Ministerial Portfolios. He should of just said we will wait for voters to give us the mandate before we start counting our Chickens.In stead he makes it look like he is already carving the ham and has decided who will get what, this allows Gower to run with division line, when will Shearer learn, I honestly didnt think he would be this bad for this long.

    • Johan 19.1

      I fully agree CGE, it is obvious that Shearer has jumped the gun. In the last election we had many Labour supporters who voted New Zealand First, simply due to lack of choice in Labour leadership. I ask you, has that situation changed with Shearer as leader?? Labour/Green coalition, what a miss-match, since the Greens have already shot themselves in the foot with their method to fix the economy, they simply want to print more money, which will likely increase inflation.
      Also, the Greens want to create more jobs by setting up govt sponsored schemes which means more tax payer money . This simply means borrowing more money from overseas.

      • millsy 19.1.1

        So what would you do? Clearly there is a need for job schemes, because the current practice of sending your CV out and knocking on doors isnt working.

  20. Poission 20

    What sound policy can we see from Norman that would validate his role as Finance minister?

    • Colonial Viper 20.1

      CGT, reform of the RBA, and taking steps to minimise currency war and peak debt effects on our dollar (ie printing money).

      • alwyn 20.1.1

        But Poisson asked for SOUND reasons.
        Printing money indeed. That is a policy that Mugabe followed of course, just on a slightly larger scale.
        I suppose you consider moderate inflation like a little bit pregnant.

        • thatguynz 20.1.1.1

          And the US are doing, and the UK, and Japan.  Not saying I agree with the approach at all but citing Zimbabwe repeatedly is disingenuous.

        • bad12 20.1.1.2

          Check out the US rate of inflation after that country having printed trillions of dollars and the Prez openly saying that He will print and feed into the US economy billions more,

          Printing money does not necessarily lead to run-away inflation, any economy run by any other than some form of Neanderthal race of Chimps knows that money can be printed and spent into an economy in such a fashion as to keep inflation in that economy within the requirements of the stated inflation band policy,

          The present cohort of neanderthal chimps in control of the economy could have instead of borrowing and spending into the economy 300 million dollars a week simply printed and spent the same amount with the exact same inflationary outcome as what borrowing has caused,

          You should educate yourself befor you go tossing the inflation of Zimbabwe into the debate, the printing of money by the Mugabe regime was not the cause of most of this inflation but as a response TO the inflation,

          As a response to the regime in Zimbabwe seizing lands occupied by white farmers ‘the West’ imposed sanctions upon that country severely restricting the import of the necessary goods of daily life, flour, fuel etc etc etc, such goods then had to be smuggled into Zimbabwe from neighbouring countries at a highly inflated price…

      • Neglect is 20.1.2

        Can you clarify your stance cv.
        My understanding is that nz economy is finely balanced at moment and we don’t have the capacity to ‘keep’ the money in the system. If the bounce happens in a few years then our expanded m3 money supply unnaturally unbalanced will cause inflation. We have to borrow from outside in a temp measure as the total borrowed amount will eventually be outflow so an equilibrium is reached. Bigger countries have the capacity to print money as well as borrow as they can absorbe the expanded money supply without inflationary effects when the economy returns to normality.

        If we don’t come out of the crunch then print way upto a point that doesn’t effect inflation.

        • mike e 20.1.2.1

          So all this borrowed money doesn’t cause inflation

          • Neoleftie 20.1.2.1.1

            Not really as at same point you have to repay it so there is net outflow of the money supply and hence inflationary influencers.

            • Colonial Viper 20.1.2.1.1.1

              So, just used a forced savings rate (eg via Kiwisaver) or higher taxes to have the same effect for printed debt free money.

              Anyhows I don’t think your premise is quite right: excess inflation only occurs when the productive (supply) and competitive (non-speculative) aspects of the economy cannot keep up with the volume of cash in circulation.

              This is easily evident in the NZ housing market.

              In the wider economy however we could print the cash required to create 10,000 new full time jobs and no excess inflation would be created – because there is still a massive excess of labour after that point.

              • Neoleftie

                Yes at the moment but what about the bounce effect when normality returns and we are left with An expanded money supply that causes inflationary pressures.

                • Colonial Viper

                  The Chinese have pioneered the way here. When there is a “bounce” or signs of some kind of speculative bubble forming, you withdraw the excess money out of the economy.

                  Many ways of doing this, from increasing bank reserve ratios and tightening lending criteria, to outright forcing increased savings and higher tax rates to pull cash out of the economy.

                  • Neoleftie

                    It disagree money is still in the system just reallocated from one type to another. The only way is a complete transfer out of our economy say overseas investment by SOE on a massive scale.

        • Colonial Viper 20.1.2.2

          Neglect. Country has plenty of spare unused productive capacity, competitive ability and labour at the moment.

          We can print $500M a year into the wider economy (of $202B), and distributed wisely, it would still be just a drop in the bucket. But it would be enough to get massive social, public transport and energy infrastructure projects underway. As well as jobs, lots of jobs.

          • Neoleftie 20.1.2.2.1

            So another think big but with a green tinge funded from non inflationary printed money…correct

  21. felix 21

    Deputy PM?

  22. Rich 22

    I believe that the next left-wing government in NZ will be Green-led with Labour as a support partner.

    We might see Grant Robertson given responsibility for State Services. Apart from that it’s whoever the caucus faction dominant at the time puts forward. Maybe:
    – Trevor Mallard – associate sports
    – John Tamihere – mens affairs
    – Taito Philip Field – (after having been accepted back into the party and given a seat) – associate corrections (from jail)

  23. Robert M 23

    At first glance. I thought the only intelligent response was-leave the country. However on a moments reflection- it is a much better lineup than the National Government and my only real objection is that Cunliffe has to be in a top position preferably finance and I wouldn’t put Norman in a Finance portfolio- but might put him in an environmental or
    local govt position to restore the CRC and stop the expansion of consents in the South Island to stop over use of water and land and the giving of farms to those unsuitable.
    Cunliffe should be an excellent specialist minister and is essential if there is to be any sensible financial and economic budget and the next Labour government not blow out like Whitlams.
    There are half a dozen Nat ministers who are outrageous conservatives or incompetents- English, Smith, Heatley, Wilkinson. Brownlie, Zip it. Collins is also intolerable but I agree with her on D.Bain.
    To me its concievable the presentable, cunning, trained and slick Tolley could win an election but I regard Collins as too large and nasty to be electable.

    • Magnus McManus 23.1

      “the presentable, cunning, trained and slick Tolley”?
      Sorry, what?! The woman’s brain is flat-out counting past 10!

    • Anne 23.2

      Cunliffe has to be in a top position preferably finance…

      At last!! Someone has mentioned Cunliffe. I don’t give a damm about factions. I want to see the very best person holding the Finance portfolio, and that person is Cunliffe.

      • Neoleftie 23.2.1

        Trouble is labour is all about factions and power divisions but yes bring on the man to lead us the people to a better way of life.

  24. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 24

    You’ll have to find room for Winsome.

  25. Chalupa Batman 25

    If it looks like National won’t get the numbers then I’m party voting Labour so hopefully the Greens can get shafted

    • felix 25.1

      That’s an excellent plan, I hope you encourage all your National voting friends to do the same.

      You might also want to consider making a sizable donation.

      • Chalupa Batman 25.1.1

        That’s an excellent plan, I hope you encourage all your National voting friends to do the same.
        -Lesser of two evils

        You might also want to consider making a sizable donation.
        -Don’t think I’ll go that far

        • felix 25.1.1.1

          Gee I wish you’d find a better way to indicate quotes.

          • Chalupa Batman 25.1.1.1.1

            Quote: Gee I wish you’d find a better way to indicate quotes. End quote
            -Better?

            • Te Reo Putake 25.1.1.1.1.1

              Nope. Still illiterate. Have you considered trying quotation marks? They look like this: ”
               
              Your teacher tried teaching you how to use them when you were about seven years old, CB. Remember?

              • Chalupa Batman

                Who says lefties don’t have a sense of humour

                • Albert Roskill

                  Wonder why Cunliffe is not listed, oh that is right because he and all his sycophantic biatches on this site are down a vacuous hole, never to be seen again, sucked in!

    • Reagan Cline 25.2

      I dislike the greens because they use fear about the “end of the world is nigh
      unless you do as we say” tactics to con people into voting for them.

      There is a flash house in Grey Lynn with a green flag and a big fucking wrap around verandah – fuck the bastards !!

      I would vote for any party that pledges “NO ALLIANCE WITH THE GREENS”.

      The greens could kill labour because they put “the environment” before human beings.

      They know fuck all about the “environment” and what they do preach is based on scientific evidence, which by definition is falsifiable.

      • Chalupa Batman 25.2.1

        I have similar viewpoints. Alternative fuels and green-tech may well work in the future but right now we need to encourage more mining. Cunliffe will but the Greens won’t.

        Silent T for all his smugness and arrogance probably does want the best for NZ, the Greens want the best for NZ as long as its an image the Greens approve of

        • McFlock 25.2.1.1

          Fascinating to unpack that statement: the encouragement of labour to split, the assumption that actually deserving the tag “100% pure” is a luxury not a necessity, and the dissonance of talking about the “smugness and arrogance” of “Silent T”.

          Revealing snapshot of your perspective, there.

      • OneTrack 25.2.2

        “I dislike the greens because they use fear about the “end of the world is nigh””

        If they get into power, they will be right.

      • Draco T Bastard 25.2.3

        They know fuck all about the “environment” and what they do preach is based on scientific evidence, which by definition is falsifiable.

        Well, considering that they’re basing their arguments on scientific evidence then it would seem that they know quite a bit and just because scientific evidence is falsifiable doesn’t mean to say that it’s wrong. In fact, it usually means that it’s right because it hasn’t been. All this is in direct contradiction to National and Act whose theories aren’t based upon fact. In fact, if National and Act took note of reality they’d have to throw all their theories and ideas out but they won’t because they’re delusional.

        Once we get an economy based upon reality then we can see some improvement in our living standards and that’s far more likely to come from the Greens than it is from most other parties.

      • millsy 25.2.4

        So you dont support clean air and water regulations then?

    • millsy 25.3

      So I take it you support pollution of our air and water then. Ill let everyone know that they can dump their toxic waste at Chalupa’s house.

      I have a few issues with some Green policies (the fact that a Think Big style programme is needed to achive their objective being one), but the idea that we should conserve resources, and clean up after ourselves is a sound one. Everyone benefits from clean air and water.

    • rtoz 25.4

      Seriously? If you’re really a National supporter, then that’s incredibly short term thinking. The lefties here must be thrilled that there are people who think like you that will further damage National if it is in fact on its way down at the next election.

      • chris73 25.4.1

        Not really. I want National to win (unless Labour ever goes back to its roots as the working mans party which is unlikely) if National can’t win then the next best scenario is Labour with the majority (or at least Labour supplying the Finance minister). Worst case would be Labour winning needing the Greens

        Thus I’ll go for the best of a bad situation

        • felix 25.4.1.1

          What from Labour would constitute, in your view, a return to it’s “roots as the working mans party”?

          Compulsory unionism? Commitment to Clause IV?

          Or what?

  26. millsy 26

    There was talk about inflation further up on this thread.

    I think people are getting too carried away with the evils of inflation, given that our living standards were at their highest during periods of high inflation, sad but true.

    Now with inflation at 0.8% or something like that, we are seeing the concequences in other areas, such as high rents, low wages and conditions for workers, underfunded social and public services, high unemployment, homelessness, underinvestment in infrastructure, and so on and so forth.

    Case in point. The inflation rate was only brought down in this country by massive cuts to public services, closure of hospitals, driving down of wages and conditions, throwing people out of work and closing down industries, cutting benefits, and pricing people out of decent housing, all because some rich pricks didnt want the price of their BMW to go up too much.

    Economics is all about trade offs, and I think that 5-6% inflation is probably nessesary to ensure everyone has a decent standard of living.

  27. …and a pretty good geographic distribution.

    I’m struggling to see your justification for this assertion James. Of the names listed in the “Chosen” column, 4 are currently MP’s for Auckland electorates, 2 are MP’s for Canterbury electorates, and one is an MP for a Maori electorate which encompasses Auckland/Waikato. The rest (11 of them) are currently List MP’s, representing no geographic location. And of the list MP’s, I’d suggest that only Cosgrove would have a sniff of gaining a seat at the next election.

    Contrast this against National’s current cabinet, 20 MP’s in total, with only 5 of them being list MP’s. And outside of Auckland (5) and Canterbury (3), you’ve also got Southland (1), Hawkes Bay (2), East Coast (2), Bay of Plenty (1), and Northland (1) represented.

    I’d argue the “Chosen” list you’ve put together is a very poor geographic distribution, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it would turn out to be the worst geographic distribution the country has ever had.

  28. rtoz 28

    I think you’re a tad confused. Pretty sure he was referring to the geographic distribution of the MPs who make up Cabinet, he didn’t appear to mention electorates or specifically electorate MPs at all.

    I can’t be bothered analysing the actual geographic distribution of the proposed Labour Cabinet, but fillin in the hole you leave in the National Cabinet, you can add Auckland (3) and Wellington (2).

    • Clearly I’m making an implicit assertion that list MP’s don’t have a geographic location.

      I can’t be bothered analysing the actual geographic distribution

      Either could James, it would appear. But I’d ask (the both of you now), if you’re not prepared to do your homework then why are you prepared to offer an opinion?

  29. Meg 29

    Ha I love how you’ve excluded Trade and Primary industries… Obviously not proirities for Labour or the Greens.

  30. You.reap what you sow 30

    Norman as Minister of Finance wont work. Labour, if anything stands for higher employment and opportunities. To do this they need to implement policies that increase the rate of economic growth.

    The Greens are opposed to Growth, unless it fits a tightly defined set of green criteria.

    Norman as MOF would control Labour. It would have the making of a massive interparty disconnect and feud.

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    Mana | 07-09
  • THE DEATH OF INDEPENDENCE FOR MAORI TV
    “If what I’m hearing is true, tomorrow Maori Television Service (MTS) will dump its news programme, Te Kaea, and staff will lose their jobs” said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira “and the Minister of Maori...
    Mana | 07-09
  • Labour recommits to Pike River families
    An incoming Labour-led government will do everything possible to recover the bodies of the Pike River Miners and return them to their families, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “This tragedy and its aftermath has left the families of the 29...
    Labour | 06-09
  • Voting has started and still no tax plan or fiscal budget for voters to see
    "Even though voting for the election has already begun, National still refuses to provide any details of its proposed tax cuts. And Bill English admitted this morning that he won’t provide any specifics until after the election", Labour’s Finance spokesperson...
    Labour | 06-09
  • National’s partners’ tax plans cost at least $42 billion
    If National forms the next government its partners’ tax plans will cost the country at least $42 billion, and maybe as much as $50 billion, wreaking havoc with the books, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National claims to be...
    Labour | 05-09
  • Labour: Providing more opportunities for young Kiwis
    A Labour Government will ensure every young Kiwi under the age of 20 is given the opportunity to be in work, education or training, and plans to develop a conservation apprenticeship scheme to help do that, Labour’s Youth Affairs spokesperson...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Candles out on teachers’ slice of birthday cake
    Today may be Novopay’s second birthday, but there’s little to celebrate, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Novopay has cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars already, and the cost is still climbing....
    Labour | 04-09
  • National’s blatant broadband pork barrelling misses the mark by a country...
    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Speech to Canterbury Chamber of Commerce
    Today I'm going to talk about our policy package to upgrade and grow our economy and how we turn that growth into a foundation for a decent and fair society. But first I want to address the issue of our...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Commission of Inquiry must have bipartisan support
    The Labour Party is drafting terms of reference for a Commission of Inquiry, Labour’s Shadow Attorney-General David Parker says. “It is abundantly clear there is a need for an independent Commission of Inquiry, chaired by a High Court Judge, into...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Rapid Transit to unclog Christchurch
    Labour will build a 21st century Rapid Transit system for Christchurch, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The long delayed recovery of Christchurch hinges on a modern commuter system for the city. “We will invest $100 million in a modern rail plan...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s commitment to public broadcasting
    A Labour Government will set up a working group to re-establish a public service television station as part of our commitment to ensuring New Zealand has high quality free-to-air local content. “We will set up a working group to report...
    Labour | 31-08
  • A new deal for the conservation estate
    The health of our economy depends on New Zealand preserving and restoring our land, air, water and indigenous wildlife, says Labour’s Conservation spokesperson Ruth Dyson. Announcing Labours Conservation policy, she said that there will be a comprehensive plan to restore...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s plan to end homelessness
    Labour has a comprehensive approach to end homelessness starting with the provision of emergency housing for 1000 people each year and putting an end to slum conditions in boarding houses, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes that homelessness is not...
    Labour | 30-08
  • Labour: A smarter approach to justice
    A Labour Government will improve the justice system to ensure it achieves real public safety, provides equal access to justice and protects human rights, Labour’s Justice spokesperson Andrew Little says. “Our approach is about tackling the root causes of crime, recognising...
    Labour | 29-08
  • A brief word on why Wendyl Nissen is a hero
    Wendyl Nissen is a hero. The sleazy black ops attack on her by Slater and Odgers on behalf of Grocery Council chief executive Katherine Rich is sick. All Nissen is doing in her column is point out the filth and...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Eminem sues National Party for unlawful use of ‘Lose yourself’ bhahahah...
    …ahahahahahahahaha. Oh Christ this is hilarious… National Party sued over Eminem copyright infringment US rapper Eminem is suing the National Party for allegedly breaching copyright by using his song Lose Yourself in its campaign advertisements. The Detroit-based publishers of Eminem’s...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Are the Greens about to be snookered by a Labour-NZ First Government?
    I wrote last week that it was smart politics that the Greens pointed out they could work with National, the soft blue vote that’s looking for a home in the wake of Dirty Politics isn’t going to Labour, so the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • BLOGWATCH: Fonterra join 2Degrees and boycott Whaleoil
    In the wake of Dirty Politics, advertisers are pulling their advertising out of Whaleoil. PaknSave, Evo Cycles Pukekohe, Localist, 2 Degrees, Fertility Associates, iSentia, NZ Breast Cancer Foundation, Maori TV, Bookme.co.nz, Dobetter.co.nz and the Sound are now joined by Fonterra...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • PM Key accused of allowing secret ‘spook’ cable sensors to spy on citiz...
    Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald (left) and Kim Dotcom at the “moment of truth” political surveillance meeting in Auckland last night. Image: PMW By ANNA MAJAVU of Pacific Media Watch NEW ZEALAND Prime Minister John Key has been accused of...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Fiji pre-election ‘politics’ blackout stirs media protests, frustration
    BLACKOUT DAY – Monday, day one of the “silence window” in Fiji leading up to the close of polling in the general election at 6pm on Wednesday. And this is under the draconian threat of a $10,000 fine or five...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • “Now the work of movements begins”: government corruption, media bias, ...
    I am so tired of the dirty politics of the National government, aren’t you? I am tired of John Key and his pathetic attacks on award-winning journalists who have spent their careers fighting and digging for truth and good. The...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Moment of Truth review, smoking guns and the awful coverage by the NZ msm
      There were queues unlike any the Town Hall has seen, 1000 were turned away once it became full…     …full to the rafters. The energy and atmosphere within the room was extraordinary, and it begun…   …Glenn Greenwald...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Why Maori TV’s Te Tai Tokeraou Poll will be proved wrong
    If Hone Harawira had a dollar every time the media wrote off his chance of winning Te Tai Tokeraou, he would have more money than Kim Dotcom. Remember the by-election? Hone was 1 point ahead of Kelvin in an exact...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • September 15 RNZ interviews – and then the Moment of Truth
    . Acknowledgement: Emmerson . 15 September – Leading up to the Moment of Truth public meeting this evening, these Radio NZ interviews are worth listening to; . Alt link . Alt link . Alt link . Alt link . Alt...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Live Stream: Moment of Truth Tonight 7pm
    Live Video Stream by eCast: The Daily Blog will Live Stream the Moment of Trust public meeting from 7pm. The meeting will feature Glenn Greenwald, Kim Dotcom, Robert Amsterdam, and a very special guest…...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • The proof Key lied about GCSB mass surveillance
    And we start getting to the evidence that proves Key has lied about mass surveillance. The article by Glenn Greenwald is out and it is beyond damning… Documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden show that the government worked in...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • A brief word on the Ede-Slater emails
    Every day I have rushed to read the paper to see if a breaking story on the Ede-Slater emails had broken yet. They haven’t. Day after day, where are these emails? We know Rawshark sent the emails to David Fisher...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • The email that proves Key is a liar
    This is the Email proving Key knew about Kim Dotcom before he claims he did… “We had a really good meeting with the Prime Minister. He’s a fan and we’re getting what we came for. Your groundwork in New Zealand...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Henchmen
    Henchmen...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Why it simply isn’t credible that Key stepped in and shut down the mass s...
    Key’s staggering admission that yes there was a year long business model by the GCSB to mass spy on all of NZ but  that he stepped in and shut it down after Cabinet had signed it off just sounds like make...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man
    Politicians like putting up straw men for the purpose of self-righteously knocking them over. Prime Minister John Key has a particular straw man he loves to punch over. He raises it whenever he’s asked about mass surveillance of New Zealanders...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • John Armstrong turns on Glenn Greenwald
    Where does a mediocre journalist like John Armstrong get off attacking a journalist with the credibility of Glenn Greenwald as he has in his ridiculous column today? Armstrong has the audacity to try and play the terrorism card to justify why...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – Which of John Key’s many statements on the GC...
    We already have Glenn Greenwald’s assertion on The Nation that John Key has misled New Zealanders as to whether the GCSB has engaged in mass surveillance of Kiwis. But Key has made many other statements about the GCSB’s powers and...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Election 2014: Numbers and Faces
    Democratic politics is a game of numbers and faces. How can we translate the numbers into the 120 or more faces that will be in the next Parliament? Below is my prediction of a likely result: 120 people, divided by...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Scotland the brave
    The possibility that Scotland will vote for independence this Thursday has panicked the British establishment. An unholy alliance of Tory, Labour, Liberal and corporate leaders has resorted to fear-mongering and bullying on grand scale in a last ditch effort to...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Why Key’s denials sound so off and why Dotcom’s fight is all our fight
    The shrillness of Key is the issue. His denials just too forced and rehearsed. Key has gone from Hollow Man to Shallow Man with his lashing out at Pulitzer Price winning Journalist Glenn Greenwald by calling him a ‘henchman’. This...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Letters to the Editor – Spies, Lies, Five Eyes, and other matters on a S...
    . . Sharing a few thoughts and observations with newspaper editors around the country… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com>to: Sunday Star Times <letters@star-times.co.nz>date: Sun, Sep 14, 2014 subject: Letter to the Editor . The Editor Sunday Star Times . Our...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Letters to the Editor – Spies, Lies, Five Eyes, and other matters on a Su...
    . . Sharing a few thoughts and observations with newspaper editors around the country… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com>to: Sunday Star Times <letters@star-times.co.nz>date: Sun, Sep 14, 2014 subject: Letter to the Editor . The Editor Sunday Star Times . Our...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • As TDB predicted, Labour to use universal super fund to buy back assets and...
    Greens about to be snookered again?   As The Daily Blog has pointed out several times now, Labour will use a universal super fund to buy back NZs assets in a bid to offer Winston a legacy project… Labour plans...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • A lesson in caring for our most vulnerable
    Some of the comments on this article make me sick. Because I am so very much over people who think they are better than others because things have gone their way in life and think those who aren’t as functional...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Please vote positive
    One of the features of campaigning is the meet-the-candidates event.  As an opportunity to present policies to the voter, they aren’t the best vehicle but still serve a useful purpose.  The problem is that there are too many candidates and...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • For this who don’t vote this election
    For this who don’t vote this election...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Where does Key get off abusing a Pulitzer prize winning Journalist like Gle...
    We are seeing the Dirty Politics PM today when Key decided the best way to counter the Glenn Greenwald claims of GCSB mass surveillance was to denigrate Greenwald… Prime Minister John Key says he will prove Glenn Greenwald’s claims by the...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Teflon Man No More
    . .   On 26 August, as Nicky Hager’s expose on New Zealand’s right wing politics hit public consciousness and confirmed our worst fears, I wrote, “Dirty Politics” has achieved more than simply revealing  unwholesome machinations between National party apparatchiks,...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Dear mainstream media – regarding Key’s promise to resign if GCSB expos...
    Dear Mainstream media. How’s it all going? I would like to acknowledge the deep depression many members of the Press Gallery are going through as their boy Key looks less and less likely to win. I appreciate how a loss...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • It’s official: ACT’s Jamie Whyte is several-sandwiches-and-a-salad sho...
    .   . There aren’t very many times I agree wholeheartedly with our Dear Leader – but on this occassion I believe he spoke for those 99% of New Zealanders for whom common sense is as natural as breathing air....
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • ‘I’ll not be intimidated … by cowards’, says Fiji death threat jour...
    Fiji Sun’s Jyoti Pratibha … death threats via fake Facebook profiles. Image: Pacific Scoop THE PARIS-based media freedom advocacy organisation Reporters Sans Frontières and the Pacific Media Centre have condemned threats and intimidation against political reporters this week covering Fiji’s...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Glenn Greenwald on TV3s ‘The Nation’ – Everyone remember when Key pro...
    Glenn Greenwald has just given his first NZ interview on TV3s ‘The Nation’ and what he had to say was incredibly damaging. Glenn is here for Kim Dotcom’s Moment of Truth on Monday and what he has just had to...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • What will soft National vote do, why Colin Craig will be a focus in final w...
    In what has been the most unpredictable elections of our time, the final week promises more shocks and bombshells than World War One trench warfare. We have the media who still have the Rawshark emails that detail the Ede-Slater exchanges....
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Would a National-Conservative Party reduce rights to an abortion? Legalise ...
    With the possibility of a Conservative-National Party coalition looming, let’s consider the impact of this new hard right religious Government on social policy. We know Conservative Party candidate Edward Saafi, believes the inability to legally bash your kids is responsible for teenage prostitution, teenage pregnancy and...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • ACTs solution to crime – more guns?
    How insane are the ACT Party? Honestly? Their solution to crime is to arm every shop keeper with a sawn off shotgun??? “Criminals are well aware that shopkeepers are defenceless and are taking advantage of this in brutal robberies. What...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • John Key’s gift to teenage girls…
    Yesterday I was at the MANA Movement policy release on “Predators on Poverty” in the Otahuhu Shopping Centre. Successive Labour and National governments have left vulnerable communities on their own to face these merciless thieves who prey on the poor...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Poverty denial – Where does National get its advice from?
    National is displaying a quite inadequate understanding of their own policies and worrying inability to respond to criticism. When John Key trots out his old, tired example of how ‘work pays’ on Morning Report this week to justify leaving 260,000...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Education reformers mean well, so what’s the problem?
    The thing about education reformers is that, mostly, they mean well. Whether it’s charter schools, National Standards, Teach First, or another reform, many people involved have good intentions.  They want to improve things, try something new and innovate, they say. The thing...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • My brain hurts
    My brain hurts.  This election year has been a really long nine months.  The lies, the headlines, the spin, the policy, the chat, I am literally overloaded with information.  At times it’s been exhausting trying to keep up.  However I...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Slater loses Blomfield defamation case – has to pays costs & must dis...
    Great victory for Journalism today. The Defamation case Matt Blomfield took against Slater has jumped its first hurdle, Slater has been told he might be a ‘Journalist’, but he has no right to journalistic protection of his sources because there was no...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Seeing an Economic Vision
    It has been some time since my last post to TDB. I was fortunate to recently come back to NZ briefly for a bit of a break from my work in Pakistan. While my visit was super short, I took...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • 5 reasons why anyone identifying as Left with a capital L should party vote...
    There are 5 reasons why anyone identifying as Left with a capital L should consider casting their party vote for Internet MANA this election. 1 – Feed the Kids: There is no excuses now that National have flirted with the idea...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • What I want from a change of government
    The prospects for a change of government look a little brighter so I though I’d look at what we can expect. The only option being provided by Labour, the main opposition party, is for a Labour, Green, NZ First coalition....
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • Why is the “Progressive” Coalition so Regressive?
    Have you ever, when parallel parking, got yourself wedged into the curb? The car in front is centimetres away and your rear wheel is touching the curb at an angle. This is a metaphor for the state of economic policy-making...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • Of course the Greens could work with National
    A warm soy latte with John Key?   Sharp in take of breath moment as TVNZ last night reported Greens could work with National post the election if National win. It’s a smart move. The Greens are so viciously anti-tribal...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Quality of Journalism
    “Skilled journos getting unwarranted shit from hack bloggers & online warriors could earn big $ in PR/marketing, so thank you for what you do”. As this tweet rolled across my screen this morning the irony had me rolling my eyes. Why on...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – #BlueGreen2014 – Or: The Media Jetskiis O...
    During Thursday’s iteration of One News, I was virtually shocked off my seat to hear a reasonably well-known political pundit slash nominal “journalist” prognosticating about the likelihood of the Green Party “switching gear” on its electoral strategy … and deciding...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • Conservatives Break through 5% Threshold
    Reports in today’s Dominion Post that the Conservative Party is polling at 6% in Nationals internal polling are not surprising says the Conservative Napier candidate Garth McVicar....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Hundreds of Students Turn Out for Political Debate
    With only a few days left before the general election, over 500 Victoria students packed the central Hub space on campus today to listen to a political debate on student issues organised by the Students’ Association. Victoria University of Wellington...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Ex-prisoners make most of mentoring to make most of life
    It’s not every day that an organisation triples a programme in size, but PARS Inc (formerly known as the Prisoners’ Aid and Rehabilitation Society of the Auckland District Inc) has managed to do just that with their Community Mentoring Scheme,...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Unscrupulous worker highlights why 90-days works
    Federated Farmers believes the experience of a husband and wife farming team in Taranaki underscores why the 90-days provision is so important to small businesses. “Yesterday a member called 0800 FARMING to alert us to a guy doing the rounds...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Eye to Eye Uploaded
    Leading Maori broadcaster and political commentator Willie Jackson previews Eye to Eye Uploaded, a multi-platform series of interviews that he’s aiming to put in front of media radars next year....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Party Rankings against Inequality
    Revealed: which party will do the most to reduce New Zealand’s growing inequality crisis...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Maritime Union backs change of Government
    The Maritime Union says a change of Government is required to deliver secure jobs and decent wages for New Zealand workers....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Green Party package for newborns welcomed
    16 September 2014 Media Release The New Zealand College of Midwives has welcomed a policy announced today by the Green Party which would provide a package of essential items for every newborn baby. The College is a non partisan organisation...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • ALCP Release Election Manifesto
    The Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party has released its manifesto in the lead up to the election on Saturday....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Election Daily Update #9
    John Key’s National Party appears to have received a major boost from last night’s “Moment of Truth” event, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Despite no major changes...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Eminem Publishers Sue New Zealand National Party
    Detroit-based music publishing companies sue National Party for damages for unauthorised use of song in election campaign advertising...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parties Back Rethink of WINZ Shared Care Parenting Laws
    Overwhelming Majority of Parties Back Rethink of WINZ Shared Care Parenting Laws. Press release- Fifty Fifty Campaign, 16 September 2014 National is the only political party willing to defend the way WINZ treats separated parents who share their kids...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parents Smacking Down Prime Minister
    "John Keys failure to deliver on his promise to change the anti-smacking law is costing National votes, and helping the Conservative Party," says Colin Craig....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Political Debate on Family Violence – Video & Audio
    The Dunedin Collaboration Against Family Violence was happy to host a political debate on Family Violence chaired by Professor Nicola Atwool of the University of Otago. Family Violence is a huge problem in our community and we invited representatives...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Greens Take Nanny State To A New Level
    Family First NZ is labelling the Green’s ‘welcome package’ for newborns policy as wasteful and misdirected. “This policy is taking ‘nanny state’ to a new level but indicates just how much the Greens want to intervene in family life,”...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • 2,100 people send message about dirty politics
    2,100 people have signed their name to a full-page open letter featuring in the New Zealand Herald this Wednesday. The letter is designed to send a message to politicians that dirty politics is an important election issue....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Are DoC manipulating Rat Numbers?
    Ban 1080 Political Party co-leader Bill Wallace says there are serious rumours DoC has changed their rat counting technique to cover up the lack of the mythical “Rat Plague” claimed by the Department in Kahurangi National Park, and also that...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Average Full time Student Is in Financial Distress
    A new survey has found that nearly half of all full time students are in significant financial distress....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Key and Cunliffe, research revealed by Ancestry.com.au
    Contrasting family histories of John Key and David Cunliffe, revealed by research from Ancestry.com.au....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Revelations a Damning Indictment of Key’s Honesty
    The Prime Minister’s honesty is now central to the election, says Internet Party Leader Laila Harré, following the revelations of whistleblower Edward Snowden that there is mass surveillance of New Zealand citizens by the GCSB....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Organisations Have ‘Duty of Care’ for Players says Law Firm
    Concussion injuries in amateur and professional sporting arenas are currently highly topical. Concussion potentially appears to have been implicit in the recent death of a young player in Northland....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Media Release from Closing the Gap on Health and Housing
    “Inequality is the biggest problem facing New Zealand at the present time” says Peter Malcolm National Secretary of Closing the Gap. It underlies many of our social ills, poverty, lack of trust, an economy that could do much better, and...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Expanding Whānau Ora – a bottom line for Māori Party
    Leaving the best to last, the Māori Party has launched its Whānau Ora policy today following a fun family event at Te Ore Ore Marae in Masterton last night. “When we change what happens in our homes, we change what...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Colin Craig’s Incredible Claims Continue
    Hot on the heels of a Conservative Party candidate proposing to double the price of a bottle of wine, Colin Craig has come up with an even more fantastic idea to buttress his uncosted tax policy....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • The Letter: Jamie Whyte is going to Parliament
    Friday night’s TVNZ Colmar Brunton poll puts Jamie Whyte in Parliament. TVNZ rounded down the poll result (ACT was on 1.2%). With the high wasted Conservative vote, just 1.2% makes Jamie an MP. It is ACT, not NZ First that...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Why are we letting Dotcom steal our election?
    Why are we letting a convicted German fraudster and his American polemicists steal our election?...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ACT’s five point plan
    ACT has a five point plan to grow the economy by a third. To lift economic growth from the Treasury's long term forecast of just two percent to three....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Christchurch rebuild cost sharing plan must be improved
    “The agreement between the government and the Christchurch City Council about sharing costs of the rebuild is due to be revised in December, as some costs are more accurately known now than they were originally,“ says Warren Voight, Local...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ‘Key vs. Cunliffe’ Final Live NZ Election Reactor
    ohn Key and David Cunliffe go head to head for the final time on TV One on Wednesday as Election Day looms. Roy Morgan wants to know what you think about their performance as the leaders try one last time...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Chamber welcomes Business Growth Agenda priorities
    Wellington Employers’ Chamber of Commerce welcomes the National Government’s 10 highest priorities for its Business Growth Agenda as essential to continuing strong business performance and economic growth....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • #SafeSource NZ – A secure way to share the truth
    Dirty politics and a dirty environment go hand in hand. Our country’s future as a fairer, cleaner, more prosperous place is being threatened by backroom deals, corporate cronyism and a lack of transparency....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Last vid to encourage youth vote
    Here's the third and final in our series to boost the youth vote. It's called CINDER and it's a play on the popular dating app....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Fee hikes restrict student choices
    A survey of 5000 students from across the tertiary sector shows that tuition fees have increased at the maximum level permitted. Fees are constraining students’ choices more than ever before. Although tuition fees are only permitted to increase...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ACT’s five point plan to grow the economy
    ACT has a five point plan to double the rate of economic growth. The Treasury long term forecast for growth is 2% a year. We can lift it to 4%....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • iPredict Daily Election Update
    National’s forecast party vote has risen to 45.3% over the last day, at the expense of Labour and the Greens, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. A National/Act/UnitedFuture/Maori...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • National’s economic strategy attack workers’ rights
    The National Party’s ‘Workplaces’ policy confirms that their economic growth strategy relies on attacks on workers rights, according to FIRST Union....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Questions Raised Over Cow Deaths
    The death of 200 cows after eating a new variety of PGG Wrightsons HT swedes [1] is a disaster for New Zealand farmers....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Final decision on Ruakura Development Plan Change
    The independent Board of Inquiry considering the Ruakura Development Plan Change has released its final report and decision. The Board has approved the plan change request but with amendments....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Confirmed – Smacking Law Needs Correction
    Family First NZ says that the ONE News Vote Compass survey showing only 23% support the anti-smacking law is no surprise, and confirms that it’s time the politicians listened to New Zealand families....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Kiwi voters urged to heed warnings
    Kiwi voters would do well to note the advice given this week to Queensland people by retired judge and renowned corruption fighter Tony Fitzgerald, according to Democrats for Social Credit health spokesman David Tranter....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Fisheries policy analysis produces surprising results
    Nine political party policies were analysed to determine which party had the most public friendly fisheries policy and the results surprised LegaSea, an apolitical fisheries lobby group. “For the first time, recreational fishers have been offered...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • $3m to help keep Hutt families healthy
    National Party candidate for Hutt South, Chris Bishop, welcomes news Hutt City Council has been selected to lead a $3 million anti-obesity initiative in Lower Hutt which will help families improve their health. “Healthy Families NZ is National’s new...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Community organisations struggling
    The survey, conducted by community sector network ComVoices, highlights the high level of frustration and urgency being felt by those who deliver services, says group Chairperson, Peter Glensor. 311 organisations completed the survey....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • NZ 2014 Election Index – 6-11 September
    Below is iSentia’s weekly Election Index for the period 6 to 11 September, showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. We will publish...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • Workers despair at Nationals lack of fairness
    “Nationals Workplaces policy, released today, fails to articulate any vison about how life for working New Zealanders can be improved.” CTU President Helen Kelly said. “Again if this policy focusses on removing work rights, its own documents...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • National tries to dodge the discussion on workers’ rights
    New Zealanders deserve a proper conversation about National’s plans to keep undermining the real value of their wages and conditions at work. “Today National has released a ‘workplace policy’ which will further widen the imbalance of power between...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • Didn’t Get Your Easyvote Pack? You Need to Enrol Now.
    If you didn’t get an EasyVote pack in the mail last week, you need to check your enrolment now as you may not be enrolled....
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • Survey shows television without adverts could be vote winner
    Survey shows television without adverts could be a vote winner Television news focuses too much on politicians' personalities and not enough on the real issues, according to a UMR survey commissioned by the Coalition for Better Broadcasting....
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • Which of Key’s many statements will Greenwald challenge?
    John Key's credibility and honesty will be tested on many more GCSB issues than whether there was / is mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB. I have put together this by no means comprehensive list of Key's statements...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • 4th tranche of Auckland Housing Accord licenses sprawl
    Youth organisation, Generation Zero, is appalled at the next stage of the Auckland Housing Accord, released today, as it is once again focussed on urban sprawl. The fourth tranche of 41 Special Housing Areas (SHAs), allows for 8000 dwellings, nearly...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
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