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		<title>By: higherstandard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/more-slippery-attacks-still-no-solutions/comment-page-2/#comment-88889</link>
		<dc:creator>higherstandard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To quote the immortal words of D4J......

&quot;Talking a bloody cold day and war. I spotted a red electioneer Mannequin in town. It continually screeched National and USA very bad in a deep voice, then in an angelic voice frothed comrade Putin and Labour very good.

Did it breach the EFA?

I couldn?t find a rock big enough to shut it up.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote the immortal words of D4J&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Talking a bloody cold day and war. I spotted a red electioneer Mannequin in town. It continually screeched National and USA very bad in a deep voice, then in an angelic voice frothed comrade Putin and Labour very good.</p>
<p>Did it breach the EFA?</p>
<p>I couldn?t find a rock big enough to shut it up.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: travellerev</title>
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		<dc:creator>travellerev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friggin hell Ms M,

How the hell did you find this?

John Key: Managing director of &lt;b&gt;debt&lt;/b&gt; market of Merrill Lynch in 1999. 

You nailed it girl. John Key caught with his fingers in the &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=10262&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;worlds financial till&lt;/a&gt;.

HIGH FIVE.

All of youse read the link of Ms M. Awesome, we are so going to nail this guy.

Captcha: Men LOVER. So much nicer than &quot;get fucked&quot; vto and T-rex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friggin hell Ms M,</p>
<p>How the hell did you find this?</p>
<p>John Key: Managing director of <b>debt</b> market of Merrill Lynch in 1999. </p>
<p>You nailed it girl. John Key caught with his fingers in the <a href='http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=10262' rel="nofollow">worlds financial till</a>.</p>
<p>HIGH FIVE.</p>
<p>All of youse read the link of Ms M. Awesome, we are so going to nail this guy.</p>
<p>Captcha: Men LOVER. So much nicer than &#8220;get fucked&#8221; vto and T-rex</p>
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		<title>By: travellerev</title>
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		<dc:creator>travellerev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ms M,

I&#039;ll have a read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ms M,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll have a read.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms M</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/more-slippery-attacks-still-no-solutions/comment-page-2/#comment-88881</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3715/is_/ai_n8869409&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Treasurers log on to on-line FX&lt;/a&gt;

BNet, Global Finance,  Nov 1999  by Joelson, Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3715/is_/ai_n8869409" rel="nofollow">Treasurers log on to on-line FX</a></p>
<p>BNet, Global Finance,  Nov 1999  by Joelson, Daniel</p>
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		<title>By: Ms M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Treasurers log on to on-line FX
Global Finance,  Nov 1999  by Joelson, Daniel
BNet
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3715/is_/ai_n8869409</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Treasurers log on to on-line FX<br />
Global Finance,  Nov 1999  by Joelson, Daniel<br />
BNet<br />
<a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3715/is_/ai_n8869409" rel="nofollow">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3715/is_/ai_n8869409</a></p>
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		<title>By: travellerev</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/more-slippery-attacks-still-no-solutions/comment-page-2/#comment-88879</link>
		<dc:creator>travellerev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops,

Sorry for wrong link. Here it is again &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.newyorkfed.org/fxc/members/members_past.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Foreign Exchange committee&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops,</p>
<p>Sorry for wrong link. Here it is again <a href='http://www.newyorkfed.org/fxc/members/members_past.html' rel="nofollow">Foreign Exchange committee</a></p>
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		<title>By: travellerev</title>
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		<dc:creator>travellerev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms M,

Very interesting. Do you have a link to said interview?
According to my information John Key was global head of Forex for Merrill Lynch from 1999 until march 2001 and as such advisor to the federal reserve of New York and the biggest player in the current crisis Alan Greenspan. He was part part of the the a href=&#039;http://www.newyorkfed.org/fxc/members/members_past.html&#039;&gt;Foreign Exchange committee with only three others one for Citigroup, Lehman and UBS Warburg. The 4 banks most hit by the subprime crisis.

A link to your interview would help me greatly with part three of my response to the NZ Herald propaganda piece. You might want to read my first response &lt;a href=&#039;http://aotearoaawiderperspective.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/john-key-and-the-things-he-does-not-want-you-to-know-part-1-the-attack-on-the-nz-dollar-in-1987/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

In the &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10522310&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;NZH&lt;/a&gt; John Key claims he was involved in new products for emerging markets like Russia, Brazil, Argentina etc. This &lt;a href=&#039;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term_Capital_Management&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;links&lt;/a&gt; him to the Asian crisis and the collapse of Russia. 

See Phil,

Getting educated is what it&#039;s all about, and of course the perception that no one in power can be trusted ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms M,</p>
<p>Very interesting. Do you have a link to said interview?<br />
According to my information John Key was global head of Forex for Merrill Lynch from 1999 until march 2001 and as such advisor to the federal reserve of New York and the biggest player in the current crisis Alan Greenspan. He was part part of the the a href=&#8217;http://www.newyorkfed.org/fxc/members/members_past.html&#8217;&gt;Foreign Exchange committee with only three others one for Citigroup, Lehman and UBS Warburg. The 4 banks most hit by the subprime crisis.</p>
<p>A link to your interview would help me greatly with part three of my response to the NZ Herald propaganda piece. You might want to read my first response <a href='http://aotearoaawiderperspective.wordpress.com/2008/08/04/john-key-and-the-things-he-does-not-want-you-to-know-part-1-the-attack-on-the-nz-dollar-in-1987/' rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>In the <a href='http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&amp;objectid=10522310' rel="nofollow">NZH</a> John Key claims he was involved in new products for emerging markets like Russia, Brazil, Argentina etc. This <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-Term_Capital_Management' rel="nofollow">links</a> him to the Asian crisis and the collapse of Russia. </p>
<p>See Phil,</p>
<p>Getting educated is what it&#8217;s all about, and of course the perception that no one in power can be trusted ever.</p>
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		<title>By: travellerev</title>
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		<dc:creator>travellerev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really?

Phil perhaps you should do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really?</p>
<p>Phil perhaps you should do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t claim to know much about the world of finance, but in 1999, the new glamour boys and girls on the block were equity and credit derivatives traders and the new play field was the internet. 

Where did Key get positioned after FX trading .. London, trading in European bonds and derivatives, and setting up the e-commerce division there, until 2001. Eventually leaving Merrill Lynch the same year, after a short stint in Sydney where he was to set up the e-commerce division for the Asia Pacific (Pacific Rim). 

In this quote from 1999, when he was the managing director of debt markets at ML, he said,

&quot;The initial thought was that, yes, the Internet&#039;s great for foreign exchange because it&#039;s vanilla. But there are applications that are just as wide in many other areas: corporate bond trading, government credit, equity underwriting, credit derivatives-it&#039;s endless.&quot;

You know, the same type of unregulated finance and investment products offered, like sub-prime.

Key may not have worked at Merrill Lynch for eight years, but he has always supported the power of e-commerce in offering products like this.  The article also notes Key as saying &quot;that banks can either boost their volume and expect to make a smaller margin or else lie down and accept that they will make less money&quot;.

&quot;We want to embrace the change that is happening,&quot;

Glass-Steagall Act anyone?

&quot;E-commerce will provide an awful lot of flow on benefits from an efficiency point of view and allow us a much greater global reach than we have today. So we see this as a great opportunity to increase our distribution.&quot;

Merrill, whose trades range from $500,000 to $5 billion, recently announced a new on-line portal for equity and investment products, and the bank plans to roll out continuous enhancements to the portal over the next two years.&quot;

In the same article,

&quot;But perhaps of principal concern is speed. As a comparison, FX differs from stocks in that when buying a share, an order is placed and confirmation is obtained when the deal is executed. With FX, however, customers want to see prices prior to the deal so they need an immediate response to their inquiry. The Internet has yet to show that it can of fer this immediate information. Graham Moat, a foreign exchange dealer with HSBC, a bank with 100 corporate clients for on-line FX trading, adds:&quot;We would want to get a price back to customers in less than two seconds, and I&#039;m not sure the Internet can do that.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t claim to know much about the world of finance, but in 1999, the new glamour boys and girls on the block were equity and credit derivatives traders and the new play field was the internet. </p>
<p>Where did Key get positioned after FX trading .. London, trading in European bonds and derivatives, and setting up the e-commerce division there, until 2001. Eventually leaving Merrill Lynch the same year, after a short stint in Sydney where he was to set up the e-commerce division for the Asia Pacific (Pacific Rim). </p>
<p>In this quote from 1999, when he was the managing director of debt markets at ML, he said,</p>
<p>&#8220;The initial thought was that, yes, the Internet&#8217;s great for foreign exchange because it&#8217;s vanilla. But there are applications that are just as wide in many other areas: corporate bond trading, government credit, equity underwriting, credit derivatives-it&#8217;s endless.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know, the same type of unregulated finance and investment products offered, like sub-prime.</p>
<p>Key may not have worked at Merrill Lynch for eight years, but he has always supported the power of e-commerce in offering products like this.  The article also notes Key as saying &#8220;that banks can either boost their volume and expect to make a smaller margin or else lie down and accept that they will make less money&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;We want to embrace the change that is happening,&#8221;</p>
<p>Glass-Steagall Act anyone?</p>
<p>&#8220;E-commerce will provide an awful lot of flow on benefits from an efficiency point of view and allow us a much greater global reach than we have today. So we see this as a great opportunity to increase our distribution.&#8221;</p>
<p>Merrill, whose trades range from $500,000 to $5 billion, recently announced a new on-line portal for equity and investment products, and the bank plans to roll out continuous enhancements to the portal over the next two years.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the same article,</p>
<p>&#8220;But perhaps of principal concern is speed. As a comparison, FX differs from stocks in that when buying a share, an order is placed and confirmation is obtained when the deal is executed. With FX, however, customers want to see prices prior to the deal so they need an immediate response to their inquiry. The Internet has yet to show that it can of fer this immediate information. Graham Moat, a foreign exchange dealer with HSBC, a bank with 100 corporate clients for on-line FX trading, adds:&#8221;We would want to get a price back to customers in less than two seconds, and I&#8217;m not sure the Internet can do that.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Let me give you some advise. If you want to comment it pays to read through some of the stuff already put in a thread. I may prevent you from placing dumb and uninformed comments.&lt;/i&gt;

This made my day just a little bit brighter
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Let me give you some advise. If you want to comment it pays to read through some of the stuff already put in a thread. I may prevent you from placing dumb and uninformed comments.</i></p>
<p>This made my day just a little bit brighter<br />
 <img src='http://thestandard.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet.
If you are  worried about gambling of other peoples money then maybe you should go and ask everybody&#039;s favorite historian &quot;what happened to our super fund??&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet.<br />
If you are  worried about gambling of other peoples money then maybe you should go and ask everybody&#8217;s favorite historian &#8220;what happened to our super fund??&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea Phil. Perhaps he got it in a weetbix box. Those Social and Economic History Doctorates are just handed out willy-nilly aren&#039;t they? I find a few every time I clean behind the couch...

But really, I have no idea. From his Wikipedia entry:

&quot;...attended secondary school at Christ&#039;s College in Christchurch, and achieved an MA in History at Canterbury University. Receiving the Commonwealth Scholarship he then gained a Ph.D. in Social and Economic History from the University of Edinburgh. From 1971 to 1981 he was a lecturer at Otago University, with a term as a Visiting Fellow at the Australian National University from 1975 to 1976.&quot;

So yeah, he was a history teacher. And Key was a desk jockey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea Phil. Perhaps he got it in a weetbix box. Those Social and Economic History Doctorates are just handed out willy-nilly aren&#8217;t they? I find a few every time I clean behind the couch&#8230;</p>
<p>But really, I have no idea. From his Wikipedia entry:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;attended secondary school at Christ&#8217;s College in Christchurch, and achieved an MA in History at Canterbury University. Receiving the Commonwealth Scholarship he then gained a Ph.D. in Social and Economic History from the University of Edinburgh. From 1971 to 1981 he was a lecturer at Otago University, with a term as a Visiting Fellow at the Australian National University from 1975 to 1976.&#8221;</p>
<p>So yeah, he was a history teacher. And Key was a desk jockey.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felix,

Wasn&#039;t the PhD honorary?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felix,</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t the PhD honorary?</p>
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		<title>By: travellerev</title>
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		<dc:creator>travellerev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rose,

Let me give you some advise. If you want to comment it pays to read through some of the stuff already put in a thread. I may prevent you from placing dumb and uninformed comments.

Bill,

I had a conversation with a man called &lt;a href=&#039;http://rinf.com/alt-news/war-terrorism/canada-asks-why-are-we-fighting-in-afghanistan/1677/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Doug Rokke&lt;/a&gt; not so long ago. He is one of my heroes and a full time DU activist. He became an activist when he came home from Iraq were he had served in the military as a health physicist for the U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Assessment team in Iraq and he and his team became ill after they were contaminated with DU. His team mates have all died and he is also slowly dying. He told me that now every bullet and every other projectile is made from DU and that the US gives it away. It is truly horrific. Iraq and Afghanistan are contaminated for the next 4.5 billion years and the found DU dust on the space station. In the weeks following up on the first wave of bombardments of Afghanistan and Iraq the readings spiked in as far away as London. For those of you who want to know more about the effects of DU watch this film &lt;a href=&#039;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5326824137117584395&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Beyond treason&lt;/a&gt; and realise that little over a thousand New Zealanders to date have served in that toxic environment in Afghanistan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rose,</p>
<p>Let me give you some advise. If you want to comment it pays to read through some of the stuff already put in a thread. I may prevent you from placing dumb and uninformed comments.</p>
<p>Bill,</p>
<p>I had a conversation with a man called <a href='http://rinf.com/alt-news/war-terrorism/canada-asks-why-are-we-fighting-in-afghanistan/1677/' rel="nofollow">Doug Rokke</a> not so long ago. He is one of my heroes and a full time DU activist. He became an activist when he came home from Iraq were he had served in the military as a health physicist for the U.S. Army Depleted Uranium Assessment team in Iraq and he and his team became ill after they were contaminated with DU. His team mates have all died and he is also slowly dying. He told me that now every bullet and every other projectile is made from DU and that the US gives it away. It is truly horrific. Iraq and Afghanistan are contaminated for the next 4.5 billion years and the found DU dust on the space station. In the weeks following up on the first wave of bombardments of Afghanistan and Iraq the readings spiked in as far away as London. For those of you who want to know more about the effects of DU watch this film <a href='http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5326824137117584395' rel="nofollow">Beyond treason</a> and realise that little over a thousand New Zealanders to date have served in that toxic environment in Afghanistan.</p>
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		<title>By: travellerev</title>
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		<dc:creator>travellerev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why thank you RedLogic,

For that compliment. Now if only I could convince people that I and thousands of others: &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.journalof911studies.com/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;scientists&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&#039;http://www.ae911truth.org/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;architects&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;a href=&#039;http://pilotsfor911truth.org/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pilots&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&#039;http://patriotsquestion911.org/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ex military&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&#039;http://firefightersfor911truth.org/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;fire fighters have&lt;/a&gt; applied the same amount if not more of rigorous work and research of the events of 911 and that it is really something everybody should look into.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why thank you RedLogic,</p>
<p>For that compliment. Now if only I could convince people that I and thousands of others: <a href='http://www.journalof911studies.com/' rel="nofollow">scientists</a>, <a href='http://www.ae911truth.org/' rel="nofollow">architects</a>,<a href='http://pilotsfor911truth.org/' rel="nofollow">pilots</a> <a href='http://patriotsquestion911.org/' rel="nofollow">ex military</a> and <a href='http://firefightersfor911truth.org/' rel="nofollow">fire fighters have</a> applied the same amount if not more of rigorous work and research of the events of 911 and that it is really something everybody should look into.</p>
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