web analytics
The Standard
Advertising

MRP sale fail numbers

Written By: - Date published: 6:03 am, May 9th, 2013 - 192 comments
Categories: john key, national, Privatisation - Tags: , , ,

Here are the numbers that sum up the MRP sale fail:

113,000 Kiwis actually bought shares. But the government spent between $100 Million and $300 Million on the process ($100 Million to a single Australian bank alone). Let’s be generous to the Nats and call it $1,000 spent per Kiwi investor. What a criminal waste.

113,000 Kiwis actually bought shares. But Treasury predicted and prepared for up to 250,000. In other words – fewer than half the investors they expected showed up.

113,000 Kiwis actually bought shares. But that’s less than 3% of the population. So much for “Mum and Dad” investors.

113,000 Kiwis actually bought shares. But the sell off of Contact Energy in 1999 attracted more than 225,000. Kiwis are obviously wising up.

113,000 Kiwis actually bought shares. But that’s less than a quarter of the 440,000 who registered an interest (by John Key’s “logic” 75% of pre-registrations were fraudulent and the whole process is a rort).

113,000 Kiwis actually bought shares. But there are 292,000 valid signatures (with more to come) on the petition calling for a referendum – almost three times as many opposed to the sales as actually bought in.

The 113,000 bought an average of $8,200 in shares. The typical family has less than $2,000 in the bank. Does that sound like ‘mum and dad’ investors to you?

The MRP sale has probably soaked up much of the interest and spare cash from those likely to buy, making it likely that the uptake from future sales will get progressively worse. Hey Nats – take the hint and quit now. The assets are ours already – they are not yours to sell…

192 comments on “MRP sale fail numbers”

  1. Maui 1

    This looks like a defeat for John Key.

    What happened to the salesperson from Merrill ?

    What would happen if these results are extrapolated to the next election ?

    Has the sparkle gone ?

    These are all valid questions for the media and others to ponder.

    • Tom Gould 1.1

      Don’t hold your breath waiting for the ‘big chooks’ to ask such questions, with the likes of Dann and Gower running around like they work for Key’s 9th floor PR department. Mind you, at least Gower comes up with his own lines, whereas Dann simply parrots those given him by his political masters.

      For example, he even went as far, last evening on the 6 o’clock news, to describe the GCSB legislation as a “dog’s breakfast”. Not sure what is so unclear about the following excerpt from the Act to deserve that description?

      “Neither the Director, nor an employee of the Bureau, nor a person acting on behalf of the Bureau may authorise or take any action for the purpose of intercepting the communications of a person (not being a foreign organisation or a foreign person) who is a New Zealand citizen or a permanent resident.”

      Unless you are Johnny Sparkles and it suits your political purposes to describe it as such, and to have the political editor of the primary daily news show repeat it as fact. And they call it journalism?

      Perhaps it is time for a register of pecuniary interests for the gallery?

    • David H 1.2

      And now what is needed is all those who opposed the sale, and are MRP customers, to change companies, now that would send a real message to the thieves.

  2. Rich the other 2

    Looks like the green/labour tactics have worked and deflated the share price .
    The actual effect has been to rob ordinary hard working taxpaying NZers of their wrightful return on the asset that was sold on there behalf.
    Lets hope green/labour stay out of the next sale and a good price is achieved.
    At least its1.8 BILLION we don’t have to borrow and we still own 51%.

    • Paul 2.1

      You must be be gullible if you repeat all that government spin.

    • Why are all the wingnuts that show up here unable to spell?

      It robs their comments of all moral force and makes you think that they are 12 year olds …

      • Richard 2.2.1

        “Wrightful return…”
        Was John Wright planning a comeback?

      • Rich 2.2.2

        They *are* 12 year olds, in mental age at least. Oh for a tory-free liberal-left site…

        • Rob 2.2.2.1

          Yes , lets herd them all together and brand them so we can identify them for later abuse , eh Rich.

      • rob 2.2.3

        If they could spell or write grammatically they would be able to think for themselves
        This would enable them to show a little insight and question our current
        orthodoxy
        That would make life very hard wouldn’t it?

    • BM 2.3

      Yep, thanks labour/greens.
      Scoring political points is so much more important than the country getting a good return off the partial asset sales.
      Anyway It’s only money, you can just print some more or raise taxes.

      • One Anonymous Knucklehead 2.3.1

        I vote that we return our property to its rightful owners without compensation: enough is enough. It’s time to get tough on Tory maggots.

      • framu 2.3.2

        it was never a good return – even treasury thinks it was going to cost us in the long term

      • freedom 2.3.3

        How is some central private bank pulling notes out of thin air and charging us interest on it better for us, rather than doing it for ourselves at no interest?

        • BM 2.3.3.1

          Because that’s the way the system works.
          If everyone decided to do it their own way it would be anarchy, the world economy would collapse.

          • freedom 2.3.3.1.1

            You poor mindwarped shadow of a human being, you really are lost to reality aren’t you?

          • Draco T Bastard 2.3.3.1.2

            Because that’s the way the system works.

            Except that it doesn’t – work that is as the GFC conclusively proved.

            If everyone decided to do it their own way it would be anarchy, the world economy would collapse.

            From where I’m sitting, that wouldn’t be a bad thing as the world economy has been designed by the rich to benefit the rich leaving everyone else worse off.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 2.4

      2.9% of the population. Are the rest of this tiny minority of money-grubbing maggots as illiterate as you are?

    • Te Reo Putake 2.5

      It wasn’t sold on my behalf and I will get no benefit from the money paid. It will continue to be soaked up by tax cuts for the rich and corporate welfare for, er, the rich. We’ve been robbed.

      • Chrissy 2.5.1

        Exactly! And not by Robin Hood. We won’t be seeing any monetary gains that they get going to the poor.

        • David H 2.5.1.1

          And whats this ‘Future Fund’ it’s going into?? More like a Filcher Fund.

      • Draco T Bastard 2.5.2

        +1111

        That’s it exactly and that’s why those shares need to be returned with no compensation.

    • Ennui 2.6

      to rob ordinary hard working taxpaying NZers of their wrightful return wtf did the “w”in rightful come from…I digress.

      The rightful return to tax paying NZers is already there, we collectively own this. Cant idiots like yourself get the mindbogglingly simple concept that “hard working NZers” include those who dont earn enough to purchase what they already own. Those who can afford are being invited to profit more from “rent” at the expense of hard working NZers.

      Those people buying shares are self interested parasitic scum, robbing ordinary NZers.

      • Tim 2.6.1

        I reckon it’s partly because the word “state” is something they see as not their own. They don’t understand that that state ownership=public (i.e. you&me) ownership.

        That was always part of that neolib ideology going back to the 80s – the othering of the state.

        “State” is a dirty word. The programme was necessarily to associate ‘state’ with any form of totalitarianism that was going.
        I well remember when we had the likes of Ralston referring to TVNZ as “State TV”.

        We should be referring to SOEs as POEs or even NOEs (Nation owned enterprises)

        • Ennui 2.6.1.1

          Concept of the state Tim, thats very valid…its the enemy.

          • Tim 2.6.1.1.1

            In a similar vein, just imagine if the GCSB were called the STATE Communications Security Bureau (which is of course is about to become a misnomer under current legislation). It’ll be more correct to name it the “NZ Communications Interception Executive”

            • Ennui 2.6.1.1.1.1

              True, interestingly the “state” bit does not matter for the new improved GCSB….their role is all about protecting “property rights” of offshore corporations under the “free trade” agreements our corporatist governments (of both left and right) have signed up to.

    • framu 2.7

      bullshit with a side order of extra bullshit

      something like 1% actually pulled out after the policy was announced
      the share price is still high
      there was no evidence that all the people who expressed interest were real.

      This was always going to pan out this way – and doesnt the fact that you could express interest without having to prove you were real tell you something here?
      The nats all know its an unpopular policy. The lax sign up system was a deliberate ploy to inflate the reported interest numbers – both to influence opinion leading up to the sale to counter the petition reporting – and as a stick to beat labour with when the final numbers came out.

      If NZ power wasnt announced we would now be hearing that it was the fault of labour and the greens using tax payer $ to scare off investors via the petition.

    • Egalitarian 2.8

      @Rich the other, I thought National like to promote themselves as the party of ‘self responsibility’? Now that the sales process has failed dismally rather than blaming Labour/Greens should the government not (paraphrasing John Keys comments a few days ago) ‘apologise to New Zealanders and pay back the money’?

      Blaming Labour/Greens for this is shameful and cowardly. National knew it was selling these assets against the will of the majority of New Zealanders. They knew they were willfully doing this before the referendum which they publicly said they would ignore anyway. It does not take a genius to work out that if you implement unpopular policies in a democracy that when the opposition next take office they may reverse it.

      I don’t just want Mighty River Power back. I want the $100 million plus back from National and their Bank and PR firm buddies. This wealth transfer reeks of the rich lining the pockets of the rich at the expense of everyday New Zealanders.

      *PS – Don’t quote me but it was my understanding that National had the option to cancel the sale if it failed to attract a good return/sufficient investors???? The fact that they choose to go ahead and even hail it as a success suggests that they don’t see it as a failure caused by Labour/Greens. In fact if they think that spending $100 million of Tax Payer money to transfer this wealth from 97.5% of us to 2.5% of us is a success it leaves no illusions about what their intentions were.

      • Rich the other 2.8.1

        Your in denial,
        Election pledge , stage one completed.
        What would voters say if they hadn’t honoured one of there mainstay policies from the last election ?.

        • Egalitarian 2.8.1.1

          I know what I hope voters say now that the HAVE honoured one of their mainstay policies!

        • framu 2.8.1.2

          what would voters say?

          “thanks for listening to us”

          • Egalitarian 2.8.1.2.1

            @framu That might be what the 35.7% of registered voters who actively gave their party vote to National, ACT & United Future in the 2011 election ‘might’ say*.

            Remember only 2.5% of New Zealanders signed up for these shares so even if you translate this into registered National voters you will see that very few National voters took the offer up.

            What National need to fear like the devil himself is the 38.5% of people who actively cast their party vote against them in the last election and the 25.8% who didn’t vote at all. I don’t feel sorry for those who didn’t vote, but it was a historically low turn out and National can’t count on that next time. Yes many of these may have been National voters but international data suggests that it is more often than not the young and economically disadvantaged who are more likely not to vote. The very group who have been the most impacted by this blatant transfer of wealth to the rich.

            If these people take umbrage to National lining the pockets of the Banks, Share Brokers, PR firms with Tax Payer money and selling these valuable assets out from under 97.5% of us then the election of 2014 may show National what kind of ‘mandate’ they really have.

            *These are the figures I have used as the basis of the figures above. I’m no statistician, correct me if I am wrong.

            Source: http://www.electionresults.org.nz – 2011 Election

            Registered Voters: 3,070,847
            Total Party Votes Cast: 2,257,989
            National, ACT & United Future Party Votes: 1,095,968 (Nat 1,058,636, ACT 23,889, UNF 13,443) = 35.7%
            Party Votes for Parties Opposing Asset Sales: 1,183,021 (2,278,989 – 1,095,968) = 38.5%
            Non Voters: 791,858 (3070847 – 2278989) = 25.8%

            • framu 2.8.1.2.1.1

              yep – i was more meaning that many voted national YET were opposed to sales
              The thinking that they liked most of what the nats proposed, but thought they would back down on sales

        • Shaz 2.8.1.3

          The policy of a government whose majority was effected only by gaming the voting system (in Epsom) standing a long-standing National Party member under the name of another party supported by a man whose party (United Future) said that it was against asset sales.

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 2.8.1.4

          What RtO is saying is that he provided a service to the National Party and in exchange they promised him our stuff.

      • David H 2.8.2

        So if you tack in what they have spent on the theft of this asset, they only got about 1.35 Billion. A hell of a lot less than the 1.7 they are crowing about.

    • Draco T Bastard 2.9

      The actual effect has been to rob ordinary hard working taxpaying NZers of their wrightful return on the asset that was sold on there behalf.

      The sale is what’s robbing most of us of our rightful return from owning these assets. That return will now go to 113,000 parasites.

    • Macro 2.10

      Did you know “Rich” if you say “Gull i ble” really slowly it sounds like “banana”!

    • mikesh 2.11

      It was the government who sold thee MRP shares. They didn’t actually have to sell, so if anybody “robbed ordinary taxpayers of their wrightful (sic) return” it was the government.

    • Matt 2.12

      “Looks like the green/labour tactics have worked and deflated the share price .”

      Huh? Maybe it just means the banksters and 1% paid less for their stakes. JK and his ilk should be celebrating.

  3. Lanthanide 3

    113,000 Kiwis actually bought shares. But there are 292,000 valid signatures (with more to come) on the petition calling for a referendum – almost three times as many opposed to the sales as actually bought in.

    Once again, this is not true. Signing up to hold a petition does not mean you oppose the asset sales. It means you support a referendum on the topic. That’s it.

    • Te Reo Putake 3.1

      You are technically correct, Lanth, but my experience was the majority of signers were opposed to the sale. I only had 3 or 4 people who said ‘I voted National, but …’ And good on them for putting the country first, but they were certainly in the minority.

      • Lanthanide 3.1.1

        Of course, but that doesn’t mean we should go around blindly saying such obvious untruths. All it needs is a realistic temper: “But there are 292,000 valid signatures, the majority of whom would oppose asset sales…”.

        Otherwise we’re no better than National, who are claiming that everyone that voted for them supported asset sales.

        • Rob 3.1.1.1

          Also , families (or collective entities) have purchased one share package , as opposed to all individuals of age being able to sign the petition, so I wouldn’t use that one any more either.

  4. Appleboy 4

    4.4 million people in NZ.

    NZ Stats shows about 25% are children.

    That leaves 3.3 million adults

    113,000 bought shares.

    The government gives a commission higher to brokers selling off shore.

    What a sham. The public have been conned.

    I bet within these figures there’s a significant figures of actual ‘mum and dads’ with a few thousand only, but the vast amount will have gone to the super rich, Key’s real target.

    • Draco T Bastard 4.1

      I bet within these figures there’s a significant figures of actual ‘mum and dads’ with a few thousand only, but the vast amount will have gone to the super rich, Key’s real target.

      Exactly what I was thinking.

    • freedom 4.2

      (roughly speaking)

      113K bought shares
      Nat voters = 1.2 m
      so taking the extreme view that only National voters bought shares:

      Only 10% of National voters bought shares
      so 90% of National voters were against the sale?

      and this is only the first sale . . .
      how can those numbers possibly improve ?

      This con gets worse by the minute

  5. Ross 5

    It’s strange that there is scaling. Tony Ryall reckons scaling is necessary because of the high demand. That is bogus because Treasury predicted a much higher rate of take-up. So, despite the low number of buyers, some are not going to get what they asked for.

    • freedom 5.1

      They started at the top of the table I bet, carving the meat generously. Once all the fat orders were filled, a few scraps that had been put aside were dutifully tossed to feed the 2K guarantee and what was left is the soup bone, shared amongst all the hungry mum’s and dad’s.

    • Foreign Waka 5.2

      I think they all will get what they are asked for – the government was counting on a lot more money then they got out of it. It will be interesting whether the 15% ceiling of foreign hold shares can be held and controlled- all eyes on that I presume.

  6. ak 6

    The unbelievable gall and arrogance of the Arrant Gilmore Party.

    Take $300mill off hard-working taxpayers to persuade them to give what they already own to the richest 3% and foreign fatcats who will then continue to pocket more out of every power bill from now on.

    Call anyone who raises objections a mass murderer and spy on them at will.

    Sad, sad day. Don’t rush home kids, the dying farce aint over yet.

    • Rich the other 6.1

      The govt needs a kick up the ar?.
      If your figure of $300 mill is correct ,they could have gotten much better value from it ,they could have sold it all for the same price.

  7. Te Reo Putake 7

    Barely a mention of the share sale on the online front page of either Stuff or the Herald. Underwhelming could be the word of the day.

    • Rich the other 7.1

      A dead issue ,
      it’s what voters voted for.
      Labours biggest issue at the last election , they got hammered.

      • Te Reo Putake 7.1.1

        It’s what the minority of voters voted for. And, as mentioned elsewhere, a percentage of Tory voters don’t support the sales anyway. A biggish percentage, actually, if the failure to get buy in yesterday proves anything.

      • One Anonymous Knucklehead 7.1.2

        A dead issue? You think a tiny 2.9% minority of scum can shit on the rest of us and there won’t be consequences?

        You’re delusional.

      • framu 7.1.3

        “it’s what voters voted for.”

        really? how does that then match with every poll ever taken by anyone shows a consistant 70-80% opposed to assets sales?

        The two dont equate, and they never will – so could people have voted nats for a variety of reasons?

        • infused 7.1.3.1

          It doesn’t matter. I don’t know how you guys are so thick. National campaigned on selling assets, Labour did the opposite. National won.

          Forget the polls, that’s the cold, hard truth.

          • framu 7.1.3.1.1

            so how do you explain the disconnect?

            like ive said (and many others have said before me) elections arent single issue decisions

            we dont know why anyone picks a particular party and we never can

            your the one being thick in insisting that every vote had asset sales as the core decision

          • lprent 7.1.3.1.2

            If National were confident that was the case, then I’d see them backing a referendum on that one point.

            So looking at the enthusiasm of National MP’s and supported for the referendum….. Duh! They appear to be missing.

            It was one of National’s policies like it was one of Labour’s to oppose it. Apart from morons, people never vote on a single issue. They vote on a package.

            And at best you can say that something like a quarter of the population voted for National’s package, and about a third of the voters. Hardly any kind of a mandate because most people didn’t vote for either the package or the policy. So they get opposition. That is what the nature of democracy is about.

            From what I have seen recently, there are a lot of right wingers whining about a policy. If Labour/Greens get government next election and implement it (as I suspect they will do), I presume that you’re going to be your usual inconsistent self, and will whine that they don’t have a mandate? I bet you do.

            You really are kind of stupid. But I guess that is just the nature of the right. Self-interested, self-involved, and kind of dumb when it comes to thinking about anyone else apart from themselves.

          • Foreign Waka 7.1.3.1.3

            Not quite, Labour was unfortunately in the process of changing leader and defining itself again. Because of that they were too slow off the bat to get a coherent response together. The Greens had not yet done any homework either. So be the time some opposition was voiced, the election was way over. Of cause National knew this and build their campaign on that tread. It was clever, but also deceitful on many levels. It also showed the true character of the main party members – and it ain’t pretty.

      • Hayden 7.1.4

        it’s what voters voted for.

        Unfounded assertion. It might have been Labour’s biggest issue, but unless they have some sort of mind control device it doesn’t make it the biggest issue for voters.

        they got hammered

        Parties other than Nat/UF/ACT actually got a majority. NZ almost never votes out a first-term government, so 47% with none of its coalition partners making the 5% threshold isn’t that impressive.

        And in 2002 (which is the most valid comparison, being National’s last election as a first-term opposition) the nation voted for Bill English to fuck off, (21%, anyone?) yet here he is still stinking up the joint.

  8. vto 8

    So more people don’t want to sell than people want to buy.

    About 3,900,000 people now don’t own MRP as it was. That is slack. I thought Key said one of the purposes was to increase NZ ownership, but in fact the obvious was always gong to happen and now has. Less kiwis now own MRP.

    Talk about shit for brains.

  9. Nick K 9

    Invested $100 million which returned $1.8 Billion. That’s impressive.

    • Hayden 9.1

      What’s more impressive is that at 8.22 am you’ve made what is probably the stupidest comment of the day.

      • Nick K 9.1.1

        It’s the truth. Does that hurt you? They spent $100million and got $1.8 Billion from the sale for schools and hospitals. Why do you hate money being spent on children and sick people?

        • framu 9.1.1.1

          how much dividend (over time) have the also lost Nick? – your maths is sub par

          • Nick K 9.1.1.1.1

            That’s hypothetical as it is subject to many many variables. No one knows the answer to that. But I do know that the Crown account today is better off to the tune of $1.7 Billion.

            • framu 9.1.1.1.1.1

              but you cant leave it out, it still part of the equation isnt it – i hope you dont do the household budget

            • thatguynz 9.1.1.1.1.2

              You complete twat.. The asset side of the govt balance sheet has also diminished by somewhere in the vicinity of $1.7B… The dividend is also not a hypothetical – future dividends may be but the historical dividends are in fact very real and very quantifiable..

              Accountancy 101…

            • freedom 9.1.1.1.1.3

              great to hear Nick, so our international liabilities are only 150 billion dollars !
              what are we all so worried about

        • Te Reo Putake 9.1.1.2

          It’s not going to be spent on the sick and the young it’s going to be wasted on the rich. Wake up, fool.

          • BM 9.1.1.2.1

            More cake and caviar for me, Bwhahahahahahahaha.
            None for you though.

            • felix 9.1.1.2.1.1

              You’re breaking character BM. Maybe time to focus on one of your other handles and give this one a rest, eh?

              • freedom

                he certainly performs better in the tweed
                dinner jackets just don’t suit his lumbar curl
                I think it’s the way his cuffs catch the undergrowth

        • Hayden 9.1.1.3

          They’ve sold $1.8 billion worth of assets (more or less, who would know?) for $1.8 billion (what happened to $1.7b as of yesterday) and paid $100 million for the pleasure. They haven’t “invested” shit. It’s as if I’ve “invested” $59 to sell a $40k caravan on TradeMe and claimed that the $40k is a return on the original investment, when in reality my nett position hasn’t changed.

          • Hayden 9.1.1.3.1

            And by the way, if it is $1.8 billion for $100 million in fees, that’s 5.56% (rounded) of the value of the shares spent selling them.

            Put another way, it’s $110 per $2000 block. You could have put each $2000 block on TradeMe, and paid $89 ($79.50 + 1.9% of amount over $1500). And yes, I know that’s a silly comparison.

        • Draco T Bastard 9.1.1.4

          Money that could easily have been spent if the government hadn’t given tax cuts to the rich while leaving us with our assets.

        • Foreign Waka 9.1.1.5

          Nick, firstly the assets belong to all NZlanders. If it had to be sold, every taxpayer should have at least a number of shares assigned. Now that would have been fair and reasonable. Imagine, it would have been a win win. Still can if so few have taken up the offer. To keep the cap of 15% on foreign ownership, then this would be a prudent way that benefits all.

      • lprent 9.1.2

        He is talented that way..

  10. Winston Smith 10

    So as of this moment National have:

    Secured 86% NZ owned
    1.8 billion in extra cash
    Still getting dividends

    Whereas Greens/Labour (and yeah that is the correct order)

    Would have 100% NZ owned
    No extra cash
    No dividends
    $6 a month savings on power bills

    Points decision to National on this one

    • Hayden 10.1

      Still getting dividends

      Well, 51% of dividends.

      No dividends

      Not true, probably lowered, but certainly not zero.

      $6 a month savings on power bills

      In the first year. Power companies seem to add a cent or so to each unit every year with little justification, extrapolate 10 years and it will be a lot more (assuming generation and transmission costs aren’t increasing 5% per annum).

      • felix 10.1.1

        Nope, that’s $6 a week in the first year. Never trust trool numbers.

      • Winston Smith 10.1.2

        Thats why I think its a points decision as opposed to a knockout. Still its not a bad decision overall for NZ.

        A win-win in other words

        • Draco T Bastard 10.1.2.1

          No, it’s a win – loss. A win for rich people and a loss for everyone else.

          • Enough is Enough 10.1.2.1.1

            Exactly Draco, a win for National and their backers.

            A loss for the rest of us!!!

            • Rob 10.1.2.1.1.1

              How exactly are you affected by this, please explain?

              • Draco T Bastard

                Upwards redistribution

                Although I doubt if you’ll understand it the reality is that 97% of NZers just got poorer so that a few thousand bludgers can get richer.

                • Rob

                  Mate you point me to some other blog. How have I got poorer as my family are certainly in a 97 percentile of this population.

                  • freedom

                    49% of the dividends no longer go to our nation’s coffers you fool

                    • Rob

                      Freedom, obviously your need to insult people is due to your anger. Try and control it , as most people have recognised that angry people calling other people fools are just telegraphing their own intelligence level.

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    This government has just sold our assets that were making a return to us for less than they were worth (That’s they only way such assets can be sold BTW as they’re too expensive for private owners to pay for them). On top of that we lose the return and we lose the ability to govern ourselves (that latter is what happens as we become ever more serfs to the ownership class).

                    So, yep, you just got poorer courtesy of this government.

                  • freedom

                    dear Rob,
                    damn right I am angry, want the list?

                    but get real mate, calling someone a fool is indicitive of nothing
                    other than suggesting that someone is a fool

                    49% of hundreds of millions of dollars every year, year after year, gone.
                    does that compute?

    • framu 10.2

      “Secured 86% NZ owned”

      no, theyve reduced ownerhip from 100% to 86% and theyve halved the dividend

      with an expected and deepening loss as time goes on

      • Hayden 10.2.1

        Plus that 86% isn’t guaranteed beyond the first minute the shares are on the open market.

      • Winston Smith 10.2.2

        Labour were prepared to have no dividend payouts so halved payouts is better than none.

        • framu 10.2.2.1

          doesnt make you claim any more truthy though winston.

          where did labour say they wanted no dividend? – reduced dividend – of course. But the plan was to reduce profit, not remove it. Whose the shareholder in SOEs again?

          also the expected and deepening loss as time goes on is going to really bite. Potentially ending up at even worse reductions in revenue than NZ power would have incurred

        • Draco T Bastard 10.2.2.2

          And I still say that power should be run as a government service rather than a profit making enterprise. It would cost us less and be more responsive.

      • infused 10.2.3

        As opposed to Labours option of virtually 0 dividend. Because that’s not important.

    • felix 10.3

      Hi Winston. How did you come up with “$6 a month savings”?

      Everyone else is talking about $25 a month or so for an average household.

      • Hayden 10.3.1

        And I quoted it without noticing… :(

      • Nick K 10.3.2

        $25 a month! Man….that’s…..$300 a year!! Or, .82c a day. Flippin hell – 82c. I’m voting Green!

        • One Anonymous Knucklehead 10.3.2.1

          How lucky for you that it means so little to you. That’s all it is by the way: luck. You probably delude yourself that riches are related to merit, or intelligence, or hard work, but if that were the case nurses and academics would all be rich instead of maggots like you.

          • Nick K 10.3.2.1.1

            Maggot? Nice to see you’ve lost the argument already and have reverted to name-calling.

            • One Anonymous Knucklehead 10.3.2.1.1.1

              What “argument”? You haven’t articulated one – just a bunch of empty rhetoric. No wonder they say stupidity predicts for conservatism.

          • donmcdazzle 10.3.2.1.2

            Are you being serious? So nurses and academics (of all people why the hell would you choose academics) should be at the top of the pile? What do you put that down to?

            ‘Academics’ are so undeserving it isn’t funny. Reading books and coming up with theories is something almost anybody could do, but unfortunately we are out producing things to contribute. ‘Academics’ contribute nothing other than idealistic theories.

            Nurses do a great and admirable job. Unfortunately they don’t create any profit for anyone so value isn’t placed on them.. that is something I agree is an issue. Highest pay goes to the people who create the most profit. In some cases this is down to luck, in an equal number of cases it is down to hard work and merit. Nepotism does exist but so does a meritocracy. In a bank trading dept for example it doesn’t matter who your dad is just how much money you make the bank, so I strongly disagree with your luck theory.

            I do however agree with the issue of pretty important jobs like nurses or carers not being valued because they don’t create profit.. How do we remedy that though? It certainly isn’t getting angry at the people who do create profit. And academics don’t belong in the same group.

            • framu 10.3.2.1.2.1

              “‘Academics’ are so undeserving it isn’t funny”

              go off and stand in the corner with the other anti-intellectuals

              that you think academics have nothing to offer is a bit sad – the results of academic pursuits arent as easily visible – but they play a vital part in developing our society in the long term (scientifically, culturally, politically and economically

              • donmcdazzle

                “Anti-intellectuals” – what does that even mean? I’m not against people being intellectuals at all and agree that academic pursuits are hugely beneficial. Maybe I should clarify my meaning, I did word it rather poorly. I’m meaning ‘academics’ in the sense of the types who read books, write theses and theories on the issues of society etc.. not scientists or the like actually working on tangible things.

                If you can give me examples of tangible things ‘academics’ (as I have framed them, you may well have a different interpretation of what that word means to you) have done to further society in a meaningful way then I will happily accept it and change my position on the matter. I am of the opinion that these types don’t contribute much at all, and we would be far better off if they used their intellect in a more meaningful manner.

                • ghostrider888

                  really

                • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                  Academics provide an example of how intelligence doesn’t lead to riches. Nurses demonstrate that it isn’t hard work or merit either.

                  I note that you are expressing your opinion on a computer that would not exist without academia. Perhaps you think DNA was discovered by an investment banker or something.

                  Oh, I see, you just don’t like the types who read books, write theses and theories on the issues of society

                  Like Charles Darwin for example.

                  • ghostrider888

                    just sigh, shake your head and rattle on OAKY, that’s what I do with commercials.

                  • donmcdazzle

                    You’re missing my meaning. You are trying to tell me that the discoverer of DNA or the inventor of the computer wasn’t financially well off? I’d say that they very much would be. I thought you were talking about the BA in women’s studies type ‘academics’ who wouldn’t be rich at all, and my point was that they don’t deserve to be as they don’t add anything of value. Charles Darwin was certainly wealthy, so obviously isn’t the sort of academic you were referring to in the first place.

                    Nurses do a great and admirable job, but they don’t necesarrily work any harder than any other profession. It isn’t hard to become a nurse so how much of a meritocracy is the profession?

                    • framu

                      i think your extremely confused about a great many things here.

                      its not meant as an insult – its just a lot of your terminology is a bit jumbled so its hard to make much sense of what your getting at.

                      eg: of course darwin was wealthy – but thats not a very good example of a modern day academic, and his wealth has little bearing on his academic contributions

                      also – people doing their BA arent really academics – theyre more at the beginning of their journey to becoming an academic. Every great phd or what have you was doing a BA at some point

                      “Anti-intellectuals” – what does that even mean”
                      Anti-intellectualism is hostility towards and mistrust of intellect, intellectuals, and intellectual pursuits, usually expressed as the derision of education, philosophy, literature, art, and science, as impractical and contemptible.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      Oh, so what you meant was you don’t like the sort of academics you are prejudiced against, with a side order of thinly veiled misogyny, and you’d like to nitpick rather than acknowledge that wealth is delivered by chance, not hard work or intelligence or merit.

                      So your crowing about the lack of value (to you) of $25 reveals little other than the boasts of a boorish self-aggrandising braggart.

                    • donmcdazzle

                      No not at all. I was referring to your post about academics not being financially rewarded. My point is that those academics who aren’t financially well off do not deserve to be. The ones who do valid things for society (like the ones you mentioned – discoverer of DNA, inventor of the computer) would indeed by well paid and I agree they should be. I’m asking for you to please tell me why those who aren’t financially valued deserve to be?

                      Like I mentioned, wealth is not delivered by chance in all cases. My father left school at 14 to work as he had 8 younger siblings he needed to help his parents support. He did manual labour most of his life, saved, made good decisions, invested wisely and is now pretty well off and owns his own business. Is that luck or hard work? The great thing about NZ is the ability to make something of yourself no matter your background (as my father has done). Some may have to work harder and go further than others sure, but it is very possible. I guess it is easier to give up and say it is too hard, and that those who have made something of themselves are just lucky.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      It’s luck, since (as has already been pointed out to you why do we need to go over this again? Are you a bit cognitively challenged or something?) plenty of people work hard but are not similarly fortunate.

                      Please note that there’s nothing wrong with getting lucky, but there’s nothing admirable about it either.

                      Your opinion of academics is worthless. Who the fuck do you think you are trying to define validity?

            • Murray Olsen 10.3.2.1.2.2

              Get off the internet that was made by academics. Throw away your computer that was invented by academics. Get a merchant banker to design you a new one. Bye.

        • Hayden 10.3.2.2

          That could be running a 2kW heater for 2 extra hours a day, which would probably make a difference to some people. Not you apparently, which is nice.

          • freedom 10.3.2.2.1

            i miss my heater,
            i miss being warm
            i miss being employed,
            i miss having an income,
            i miss being treated as a person

        • felix 10.3.2.3

          For most people, 25 bucks off a powerbill is significant. Your comment only shows how out of touch you are.

          • Rob 10.3.2.3.1

            Yes just like $25 off a tax bill.

            • Colonial Viper 10.3.2.3.1.1

              Silly billy, you might save $25 off your tax bill, but then your kids end up with $25 less health care and education.

              • McFlock

                Actually, you lose more than $25 in healthcare and education. More customers in the private sector boosts the price and also limits economies of scale.

                That’s why dentists are so cheap these days /sarc

      • Winston Smith 10.3.3

        My bad, I meant $6 a week.

    • Egalitarian 10.4

      @Winston Smith “So as of this moment National have” – I love the way you prefaced your comment with the caveat “as of this moment”. It suggests you are well aware of what has historically happened to NZ ownership of privatised shares over the long term.

  11. jcuknz 11

    I pulled out because I prefered not to gamble and the return on shares when you consider the price paid for them is not that wonderful in most cases. If I was going to get the shares at face value it might have been worth the gamble but at <40% sorry no thanks. Then there was the hairbrained GreLab idea of saving consumers money to add to my doubts.

  12. Santi 12

    I’m voting for Norman, I mean Shearer, I mean Robertson.

    • BM 12.1

      Actually, you’re voting Little.
      If by some miracle, Greenbour manages to get over the line at the next election, expect to see Shearer get Bolgered within the year and replaced by Little.

      • Te Reo Putake 12.1.1

        As far as I can tell, that’d be fine by just about everyone here, BM. Do try and keep up.

    • felix 12.2

      The irony is that even though you’re being facetious and funny, when you vote Key in 2014 you actually have no idea who will take his place come 2015.

      National are way better at keeping the lid on though, I’ll give you that.

      • Te Reo Putake 12.2.1

        If there is an opportunity to vote for Key in 2014! I’d say a snap election this year or Key’s resignation in the face of a humiliating defeat are just as likely possibilities.

      • BM 12.2.2

        Yes I do, it will be Judith Collins.
        NZ’s version of Maggie Thatcher, she will build on the great economic platform created by Key propelling NZ to even greater heights.
        She will also launch a successful assault on Norfolk island bringing the island under the NZ banner, where it rightfully belongs.

        • framu 12.2.2.1

          best joke of the day that. – oh wait…. your being serious arent you

        • thatguynz 12.2.2.2

          I’d suggest a change of medication. It would seem the synthetic marijuana doesn’t agree with you. I can’t actually pick out which part of your comment is the most ridiculous…

        • ghostrider888 12.2.2.3

          pit cairn

      • Rob 12.2.3

        Just like what happened with people who voted for Goff. Wonder if any of them even thought they were going to end up with Shearer.

        • felix 12.2.3.1

          Eh? If Labour had formed a govt, Goff would still be leading now.

          It’s a given that Key is out of here if he loses – he said so himself. I’m saying they’ll pull the old switcheroo if he wins.

  13. Hayden 13

    I predict there’s going to be a lot of “schools and hospitals! SCHOOLS AND HOSPITALS!” today, which apparently is the new spin line. Perhaps we should be asking, “Which schools? And which hospitals?”. I mean, obviously this plan is so well thought-out that these facts should be readily available. And if they mean charter schools, they can just fuck right off.

    We might as well be hearing “puppies and rainbows… Why do you hate PUPPIES AND RAINBOWS?!”

    • framu 13.1

      well rainbows ARE gay :-)

    • Foreign Waka 13.2

      Is that the same hospital where a 82 year old was waiting with a bleeding bladder for 7 or more hours only to be taken home by his kin without treatment? I can see what the next savings platform will be, kill all the old people by ignoring their need. What a great society, so caring….

  14. 113 thousand kiwis bought shares, lets hope for 113 thousand kiwis the share price goes up.

    It would’ve been more kiwis buying them, but the Greens decided to play politics.

    They will pay come the next election.

    • framu 14.1

      what should a political party play brett? tiddlywinks?

      “It would’ve been more” – there is no evidence to support this claim

      • Brett Dale 14.1.1

        Of course there is evidence, you dont think the greens and labour doing what they did, stopped people from buying shares? Hell before they announced it, the reason I didnt buy shares, because I knew labour would try and interfere like they did with Auckland airport.

        • framu 14.1.1.1

          well… where is it brett? – put up or shut up

          • infused 14.1.1.1.1

            Try listening to Talkback this morning. It was all positive from people, and many who didn’t buy shares (pulled out) specifically because of Labour.

            People are not stupid, they saw this for exactly what it is, Labour/Greens being retarded as usual.

            • Paul 14.1.1.1.1.1

              Are the people who ring right wing talk back shows representative of the population?

              • Arfamo

                Why would people pull out if they thought National will continue to govern? Obviously they think the writing is on the wall for the Natsy rorters at the next election.

                • felix

                  Exactly. As I’ve been saying for ages and Dr Norman pointed out in Parliament today, blaming Labour and the Greens for the sad take-up of the share offer only makes sense if you accept that the market expects Labour and the Greens to form the next govt.

            • framu 14.1.1.1.1.2

              ooh talk back is evidence now? – and just up thread you called people thick

              well… where is it infused? – put up or shut up

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 14.2

      Or alternatively (more likely too), the Greens will increase their share of the vote as more evidence of how irrelevant you are.

      • Brett Dale 14.2.1

        The greens wont increase their share of the vote, sure they may poll between 13-15% before the election and heck some polls may have them as high as 20%, come election day they will get around 9-10% in the next election.

        Rena helped them last time, because it got people thinking about the environment.

        • Colonial Viper 14.2.1.1

          You really think there won’t be another environmental or conversation disaster between now and next election? I’ll give you a clue: National are enacting a tonne of anti-conservation moves which are going to help the Greens very nicely thank you.

          • Brett Dale 14.2.1.1.1

            The odds are there wont be another one just before the election, like last time, the Rena must of given the greens at least another 2% in the party vote.

            Again they will poll between 13-20%, the actual election they will get just over 10%

            • fender 14.2.1.1.1.1

              How lucky it is we have such a wise person like you with your ability to see into the future. Since your 10:56am prediction of 9-10% and your 11:59am of ‘just over’ 10% there’s been an almost 1% increase, that good for only 1 hour, please come back in a few hours and give another update.

              Some may see your name and say ‘oh no not Bread Stale’, but not me, I know a genuine clairvoyant when I see one.

          • Rob 14.2.1.1.2

            There may well be, odds on its probably very likely. However we now realise that the green rhetoric is as empty and based on grandstanding as everyone elses. So what new policy actually came out of the Rena disaster, how did they use it to influence NZ in a postive way. All we saw was major of flapping of hands as it was pronounced that this was NZ worst eclogical disaster and would leave a stain on BOP for decades. So what is the update on supposedly NZ’s worst ecological disaster.

        • Rich the other 14.2.1.2

          Greens won’t get even 9%, people are waking up to there desire to stop almost any development.

          Beware ,they have a new cowardly tactic , this to oppose new developments under a different name as demonstrated by the appeal against the kapiti/Levin freeway, its actually the greens in disguise.

          The same tactic is being used on the west coast in an appeal against a mining venture,

          • framu 14.2.1.2.1

            you havent actually bothered to read any green policy have you – the whole anti development thing proves it. Its the calling card of the ignorant

        • felix 14.2.1.3

          Hey Brett, what were you predicting for the Greens last election? 7% wasn’t it?

          And how’d they do? 14% wasn’t it?

          This new prediction of yours is very exciting…

  15. Dv 15

    Another way to look at the numbers
    1million? on advertising attracted 73,000 ‘new’ investors (although I dont really know how they got that number)
    OR
    $140 per investor.

    • Colonial Viper 15.1

      What are you talking about? $1M spend? Dream on – the marketing campaign alone cost roughly 30x that.

      • Rob 15.1.1

        You do realise that $1M media spend in a tight timeframe is actually quite a lot CV and gives a lot of TARP’s.

  16. Dv 16

    I thought the tv/new was 1m
    If it is 30m, that is $4200 per new investor!!!!
    Yikes.

    • Chris 16.1

      You might want to check your maths in both places you’ve done it.

      $30m over 73,000 investors is $411 per investor.

      Also the new investors figure would have come from the number of purchasers who needed an investor number or whatever they are called.

  17. Enough is Enough 17

    r0b

    You have a habit of testing National’s success and failures against your beliefs and morals.

    Guess what National don’t really give a shit about the low price or low amount of kiwis took up the offer.

    Their goal was to sell our assets to their mates. Big tick. They have suceeded, and we have failed.

    There will be champagne bottles being popped in the glass towers of Auckland today and at Nat HQ in Wellington.

    They have managed to do what they were put in government to do. They have stood strong to huge opposition and pushed this through.

    We can learn a lot from the way they stick to their principles.

    The bastards

    • Colonial Viper 17.1

      You make some good points.

      John Key’s mates will be well pleased that the share price is relatively low, and that they got a larger proportion of the shares than expected because there were so few Kiwi investors.

      So agreed…hardly a “failure” for the National Party constituency.

    • Murray Olsen 17.2

      Half the Labour caucus also do their best to stick to National’s principles. They should just join up and get out of the road.

  18. Saarbo 18

    I’m sure National expected over 300k people to purchase MRP shares. This is a major fail. MRP is the jewel in the New Zealands power generators, it has a good mixture of hydro/geo thermal generators and has exciting developments in wind and overseas investments. This float should have had a lot more investors than Contact. This is a major FAIL and will be beautiful fodder for the Greens and Labour when things settle down.

    I reckon as far as what the Left needs to do is we have to get the 16500 signatures, I guess we have to be a bit more discerning and careful when signing up because when I collected signatures I had the uncomfortable feeling that there were MRP sale supporters entering bogus details to derail, easily fixed this time, we just need to ask for a drivers license to make sure we get the details correct. I’ve already got a lot of signatures , in fact it seems even easier now as anyone who hasn’t purchased shares are pretty keen (97.5% of New Zealander’s).

    I reckon that National hoped to get most of their supporters buying, I imagine that they expected numbers well in excess of 300k investors. This was their policy that was going to change everything for them, they were relying on this. FAIL. Quite funny really.

    • ianmac 18.1

      I had made a modest collection from family and friends. Acknowledged.
      What happens if we reapply?
      And if the Parliamentary Services just did sampling how would we know:
      1. Whether we had been discounted.
      2. That they know if my new submission was a duplicate or not?

      • Saarbo 18.1.1

        Well I think 16500 new signatures cant be that hard to find, even if we stop Genesis then we have held some more strategic assets with in government. All signatures have to be new to the petition.

    • infused 18.2

      The referendum is pretty much lost now. If it had stacked up 1st time round, I think it would have had quite a huge affect, but now it’s a fizzer.

    • Rich the other 18.3

      sarbo ,
      the real FAIL is the petition and just to be helpful , 23000 is the target.
      .

      What’s more by the time the sales are complete the govt will have about $5 billion to play with, that’s $5 billion they don’t have to borrow.

      But wait there’s more , unemployment down
      .
      The left are about to start panicking.

      • Colonial Viper 18.3.1

        Fascinating ideas.

        However, MRP represents the absolute high tide mark for the asset sale programme. It’s all down hill from here.

        • Colonial Viper 18.3.1.1

          I’ll add – I’m expecting a massive global equities crash before the end of the year. World stock markets have been hyperinflated well beyond how the real global economy is doing.

    • ianmac 19.1

      I watched fibre optic ultra fast broadband being connected free to my neighbor courtesy of Telecom. I contacted my new provider Vodapone (ex Telstra) who knew nothing about it “but when it became available in our street they would let me know.”
      “But it is here! I can see it.”
      “No. We will let you know when it arrives.”
      (I can’t afford it anyway.)

  19. peggity gwes 20

    Renationalise on day 2 of the next green/labour government.. we need one day to celebrate before getting down to business.

    • Colonial Viper 20.1

      Labour won’t renationalise; or if they do it will be in a way which provides massive profits to the private sector.

  20. aerobubble 21

    Drunk on power, Key impressively rewards those at the top who have left a global wasteland of debt and near disaster, feed them more, when we should be right royally condemning their works.

  21. Prove It 22

    Can you provide evidence to support the $100m to $300m cost assertion – other than links to unsubstantiated claims?

    Hint: Read page 238 of the Prospectus.

    [Bill English admitted today that the cost of selling Mighty River alone was $100m. Nice try though. Eddie]

    • Prove It 22.1

      Fair enough, thank you for the link (although technically the question/answer seems to relate to costs across the process so far, so not just MRP).

      So, the $300 million cost assertion in this post is therefore wrong?

      And, the $100 million asserted payment to Lazard must therefore be wrong too (unless all other Government advisers have been working for free)?

      • Prove It 22.1.1

        Just watched a bit more of the video you posted Eddie – you are right – it seems the $100m figure in context may relate just to MRP.

        However, RN does seem to be factoring in $25m of “loyalty bonus shares” into his $100m – which is not a “cost” in terms of cash out the door, so lets say $75 million.

        $75m in costs = what, $250 per Kiwi … OP going to be corrected?

        • Te Reo Putake 22.1.1.1

          Which bit of the post do you think needs correcting? If you are talking about the cost per investor, then, on your figures, its $750 per investor. I heard one pundit suggest a $110 mil spend already (ie bugger all left for the other floats). If that figure’s correct it’s near as damn to the thousand dollar figure in the post.

Links to post

Important links

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • The gentle art of believing nothing
    I remember, quite a few years ago now, Jenny Shipley addressing a room and asking the question, “What is the purpose of the National Party?” The answer was: To defeat the Labour Party. National was there to be the party...
    Occasionally erudite | 22-10
  • Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 – what really happened?
    Three months after the loss of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 over Ukraine the world is no wiser about what, and who, caused this crash. Well, we have the preliminary report but this only confirmed the bleeding obvious (“the aircraft was penetrated by a...
    Open Parachute | 22-10
  • It’s about history… & votes & elephants
    I think I'll start at the end. Andrew ended his recent post like this:...
    Pundit | 22-10
  • More than 20 jobs saved at Auckland faculty of education
    The union and TEU members at the University of Auckland have managed to reduce proposed compulsory job cuts at the faculty of education from 35 down to just two. Local TEU organiser Enzo Giordani said feisty staff with a staunch...
    Tertiary Education Union | 22-10
  • Gordon Campbell on the tokenism of New Zealand‘s role against Islamic Sta...
    Was John Key born lucky or what? Political performance tends to be judged on three things – the unemployment rate, the petrol price at the pump, and the market value of your house. This year, Key was lucky enough to...
    Gordon Campbell | 22-10
  • MIT chaos following job cut announcement
    Chaos reigns at MIT following last week’s announcement that the polytechnic will cut 68 full time equivalent jobs, according to local TEU organiser Chan Dixon. Over a thousand people have signed a petition opposing job cuts at the polytechnic. Staff are...
    Tertiary Education Union | 22-10
  • Auckland staff call for Living Wage
    The Living Wage Network held a rally and barbecue this week calling on the University of Auckland to become first New Zealand’s Living Wage university, by paying all staff, both directly employed and contracted staff, a living wage of $18.80...
    Tertiary Education Union | 22-10
  • Otago debates one off lump sum
    The University of Otago has not offered its staff a pay rise on their rates at collective agreement negotiations, opting instead to offer a one-off lump sum of $1000, which will not go ‘on the rates’. TEU members at the...
    Tertiary Education Union | 22-10
  • Speaker: David Fisher: The OIA arms race
    Good afternoon everyone. I am David Fisher, a reporter with the New Zealand Herald. I have worked as a journalist for 25 years, mainly in New Zealand but across a number of other countries.I think there's some value before I...
    Public Address | 22-10
  • Employment law first act of new government
    As the prime minister promised, his government has rushed to push through its Employment Relations Amendment Bill as one of its very first actions this week. The bill, which union members and workers have actively opposed for the last year,...
    Tertiary Education Union | 22-10
  • 7 inspiring stories of communities taking action for climate
    Stories of communities taking action for the climate and refusing to accept the plans of polluting fossil fuel companies are happening more and more. Here are just a few inspiring climate acts of courage taken by doctors, villagers, students, farmers,...
    Greenpeace NZ blog | 22-10
  • Blowin’ in the wind
    Wind power has a pivotal role to play in the world's energy supply over the next few years. By providing huge amounts of clean, affordable power, it can buy us time in the fight against global warming while revolutions in...
    Greenpeace NZ blog | 22-10
  • Wanted: more fertiliser and horse manure
    Equality enriches the soil, just like manure, but a lot less stinky (For our opening week, we asked all our contributors to think about why they’re On The Left, and what the next three years holds for the left, the...
    On the Left | 22-10
  • PM gets it right about Auckland, mostly
    Prime Minister John Key is dead right when he said: First home buyers in Auckland might have to consider an apartment in order to get onto the property ladder, Prime Minister John Key says. After all, the locational efficiencies of...
    Transport Blog | 22-10
  • John Key’s Multiple Identities
    Question to the Prime MinisterRussel Norman: How many times since November 2008 has he spoken with Cameron Slater on the phone and how many times, if any, has he txted him?Prime Minister: None in my capacity as Prime Minister.John Key...
    Local Bodies | 22-10
  • Where is the Middle?
    When Labour decides who will be the next leader, it is of interest to all of us involved in politics. After all the person chosen could be New Zealand's next Prime Minister. So the debate on the nature of the...
    Pundit | 22-10
  • Labour Needs A Civil Union With The Greens
    Much has been written about where Labour needs to go from here. One issue which doesn’t seem to have generated much interest is what do they do with the Greens?...
    Pundit | 22-10
  • More Latté Than Lager: Reflections on Grant Robertson’s Campaign Lau...
    The People's Flag Is ... Mint Green? Grant Robertson and Jacinda Ardern (whom Twitter immediately dubbed Gracinda) pose in Mint Green for one of the glossy women's magazines. In a non-revolutionary era, superficial is about as deep as it gets. BIKERS?...
    Bowalley Road | 22-10
  • Auckland’s disturbing panopticon
    Earlier in the month, we learned that Auckland was planning to install a creepy panopticon, complete with ANPR and facial recognition, for vague and undefinied purposes. This produced a flurry of OIA requests via FYI, and one of them (for...
    No Right Turn | 22-10
  • How to Sell a House: Free Advice from a couple of experts. (Self-Described!...
      In the 32 years that Judy and I have been together we have bought and sold quite a few houses. Six years is the longest we  lived in any one of those houses.  Our friends regard us as gypsies. The...
    Brian Edwards | 22-10
  • Judith Collins’ two-tier OIA service
    Back in August, we learned that sewerblogger Cameron Slater was receiving extraordinary OIA service from then-Minister of Justice Judith Collins, in one case receiving a response to a request within 37 minutes. But it wasn't just extraordinary for its speed;...
    No Right Turn | 22-10
  • Fluoridation – a racist conspiracy?
    Political activists campaigning on health issues often resort to scaremongering. This can be dangerous – especially when their stories have no real basis but rely on selective and distorted information. Paul Connett’s Fluoride Action Network (FAN) often resorts to this sort of scaremongering. Now...
    Open Parachute | 22-10
  • What have people in Africa been doing since the Ebola outbreak started?
    by Andy Warren In a word – dying.  But not from Ebola. According to WHO data it looks like this: However, fear and anxiety are the sexiest ingredients of any story today – rather than boring facts. Ebola fits perfectly...
    Redline | 22-10
  • What have people in Africa been doing since the Ebola outbreak started?
    by Andy Warren In a word – dying.  But not from Ebola. According to WHO data it looks like this: However, fear and anxiety are the sexiest ingredients of any story today – rather than boring facts. Ebola fits perfectly...
    Redline | 22-10
  • Unbelieveable
    This week we've seen the Prime Minister desperately trying to cover up his war plans by pretending that Obama's war-planning meeting was just a "regular" meeting of defence partners which we just happened to be attending. Over on Kiwipolitico Pablo...
    No Right Turn | 22-10
  • Are the police using ANPR to target the disabled?
    The media this morning is full of stories of the paralysed man caught driving using a walking stick to reach the pedals. Its good that he's off the road, but there's one point in the story which raises questions:The driver...
    No Right Turn | 22-10
  • Like a cult…
    When a party loses badly, the public expects a bit of sorrowful wailing and beating of breasts. To say “This is what we did wrong, and this is how we’ll fix it” is an important part of restoring trust with...
    Occasionally erudite | 21-10
  • Does Money make Money?
    ‘Rock star economist’ or ‘inequality messiah’ French economist Thomas Piketty’s book Capital in the Twenty First Century has outsold every other book on the planet this year. The book is so popular because it floats the idea that money makes...
    Gareth’s World | 21-10
  • Cycling: the benefits of complete networks
    A group of New Zealand researchers recently published an excellent paper on the costs and benefits of investing in a complete cycle network and safe street design. Their paper, which is available online, found that: the benefits of all the...
    Transport Blog | 21-10
  • Life isn’t fair. But it should be.
    (For our opening week, we asked all our contributors to think about why they’re On The Left, and what the next three years holds for the left, the government, and New Zealand.) I was not an angelic child. My mother...
    On the Left | 21-10
  • Up here on Planet Key
    ...
    On the Left | 21-10
  • TDB Today: Reasons not to be cheerful, Part #272b
    In my post at The Daily Blog this week I take inspiration from the great Ian Dury, and reflect on the disconnect between political ambition and the state of the climate system as it continues to warm. It will be...
    Hot Topic | 21-10
  • Otago dairy farms fail basics
    I’m really privileged to take on the responsibility of the water portfolio. Eugenie Sage has done excellent work in this area in the last term of parliament and provided a great platform for further work. Last Parliament my bill to...
    frogblog | 21-10
  • Tracking the performance of the 1 hour Xero model
    DISCLOSURE: I hold Xero shares.  Last year I built a very quick and dirty spreadsheet to analyse Xero, and wrote Valuing Xero – in one hour. The article was cross-posted to the NBR, where it attracted far more comments. More on those...
    Lance Wiggs | 21-10
  • Hard News: Media Take: The creeping politicisation of the OIA
    Brent Edwards' story last week on official advice to ministers on child poverty was interesting not only for its substance, but its circumstance.Edwards explained on Morning Report that he originally requested the first of the documents (some of them now nearly...
    Public Address | 21-10
  • Emails from the candidates
    As part of the NZ Labour leadership election, the candidates are able to email the party membership and sell themselves. Knowing how messy Labour’s membership list can be, I thought I’d reproduce the emails in case anyone wants to use...
    Progress report | 21-10
  • Gordon Campbell on Pharmac, Gough Whitlam and Sleater-Kinney
    Ridiculous reported comments on RNZ this morning by Trade Minister Tim Groser, as he sought to dampen down concerns about yesterday’s leaked draft of the IP chapter of ther Trans Pacific Partnership negotiations. According to Groser, ‘extreme’ positions are common...
    Gordon Campbell | 21-10
  • @akltransport – Please fill in a form
    Social media has become an important tool for many organisations in how they engage with their customers. It’s become a tool for both marketing and customer service, and there are a number of examples organisations who do it right. Some...
    Transport Blog | 21-10
  • Questions and Answers – October 22
    Press Release – Office of the Clerk Child PovertyGovernment Priorities and Policies 1. Hon ANNETTE KING (Acting Deputy Leader – Labour) to the Deputy Prime Minister : Will he make reducing child poverty a Better Public Service target given the...
    Its our future | 21-10
  • Alpaca Metropolitan – On The Left Special!
    ...
    On the Left | 21-10
  • Video Against Poverty
    Schoolgirls in Kalimpong, West Bengal, India.  Photo / Julie Zhu This is week two of my givealittle.co.nz campaign Video Against Poverty and I'm more than 2/3 of the way to my goal of $2600.00.  This has been totally unexpected and is a really...
    Notes from the edge | 21-10
  • Why I’m Left
    I’m Left all the way down to my bones. My bone marrow is made up of lots of microscopic Karl Marx mustaches. It’s partly why I’m so curmudgeonly. When I was born I was brought home from the hospital to...
    Tangerina | 21-10
  • Gordon Campbell on Pharmac, Gough Whitlam and Sleater-Kinney
    Column – Gordon Campbell Ridiculous reported comments on RNZ this morning by Trade Minister Tim Groser, as he sought to dampen down concerns about yesterdays leaked draft of the IP chapter of ther Trans Pacific Partnership negotiations.Gordon Campbell on Pharmac,...
    Its our future | 21-10
  • Don’t cough on me
    It used to be acceptable to go to work or travel with a cough or the flu. That’s been changing over the last 10-20 years, and people who cough and sniffle in public are increasingly treated like people who smoke in the...
    Lance Wiggs | 21-10
  • Some might just come by train.
        As a Waikato girl by birth, Aucklander by nature, and living in Hamilton by choice, I’ve long being a supporter a regular train gig chugging the willing and the weary between the hustle and pace of Auckland and...
    Politically Corrected | 21-10
  • Why I’m Left: happiness, solidarity and community
    (For our opening week, we asked all our contributors to think about why they’re On The Left, and what the next three years holds for the left, the government, and New Zealand.) I’m Left all the way down to my...
    On the Left | 21-10
  • Curiosity’s historic comet photo
    Photo Credit: Curiosity on Mars – NASA Rover Opportunity Views Comet Near Mars. According to NASA: NASA’s Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity captured images of a comet passing much closer to Mars than any previous known comet flyby of Earth or Mars....
    Open Parachute | 21-10
  • Ireland in the 21st century – Christchurch WEA course, Sat, Nov 1, 1-4.30...
    One of Ireland’s many ‘ghost estates’, built during the ‘Celtic Tiger’ fake-boom; these buildings are a haunting symbol of early 21st century Ireland Saturday 1 November, 1 – 4.30 pm The twenty-first century began with, officially at least, a great...
    Redline | 21-10
  • Ireland in the 21st century – Christchurch WEA course, Sat, Nov 1, 1-4.30...
    One of Ireland’s many ‘ghost estates’, built during the ‘Celtic Tiger’ fake-boom; these buildings are a haunting symbol of early 21st century Ireland Saturday 1 November, 1 – 4.30 pm The twenty-first century began with, officially at least, a great...
    Redline | 21-10
  • Gough Whitlam: 1916 – 2014
    A Mighty Totara has Fallen: Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam paying his respects to the late NZ PM, Rt. Hon. Norman Kirk, during his Lying-in-State at Parliament Buildings, Wellington. Wednesday, 4th September, 1974. (Photo by John Miller.) A BIG MAN IN EVERY...
    Bowalley Road | 21-10
  • Green Party expresses sympathy for Canadian shooting victims
    The Green Party expressed its solidarity with Canadians and the Canadian Parliament today, offering its sympathy for family and friends of the soldier killed in the attack. "Our thoughts are with all those caught up in the shooting in Canada...
    Greens | 22-10
  • Prime Minister must honour his promise
    It’s time for John Key to honour his promise to the Pike River families, says Labour MP Damien O’Connor.  “International mine experts have confirmed the view of WorkSafe New Zealand and many miners on the West Coast that it is...
    Labour | 22-10
  • EPA finds Shell Oil illegally drilled two wells
    The Environmental Protection Authority (EPA) has concluded that Shell Todd Oil Services (STOS) broke the law by drilling two wells without a marine consent off the coast of Taranaki, the Green Party said today. The EPA conducted an inspection of...
    Greens | 22-10
  • Soaring rail use in Auckland shows need for rail link now
    News that Aucklanders overtook Wellingtonians as the biggest train users is further evidence the Government needs to start work on the Auckland City Rail Link now, the Green Party said today.Auckland Transport said today that in the year to September,...
    Greens | 22-10
  • Tea breaks gone by lunch time
    Labour is calling for an eleventh hour reprieve to employment law changes which could see thousands of Kiwi workers not covered by collective agreements lose their smoko breaks, its spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.“How cynical that on the...
    Labour | 21-10
  • Metiria Turei to lead fight on feeding hungry children
    Green Party Co-leader Metiria Turei is urging all political parties to support the Feed the Kids Bill which she inherited today from Mana leader Hone Harawira.Mrs Turei, who leads the Green Party's work on child poverty, will pick up Mr...
    Greens | 21-10
  • Otago dairy farms fail basics
    I’m really privileged to take on the responsibility of the water portfolio. Eugenie Sage has done excellent work in this area in the last term of parliament and provided a great platform for further work. Last Parliament my bill to...
    Greens | 21-10
  • A mighty totara has fallen across the Tasman
    The New Zealand Labour Party expresses deep sadness at the death of former Australian prime minister Gough Whitlam, aged 98. “Today a great totara has fallen across the Tasman,” Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says....
    Labour | 21-10
  • Note to National: Must deliver on child poverty
    John Key and his Government will be held to its promise to make child poverty a priority, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “In its priority-setting speech today the Government stated child poverty would be a major focus for...
    Labour | 21-10
  • New Analysis show Government cut tertiary education funding
    New analysis done by the Green Party today shows the Government has made cuts to funding of tertiary education since 2008.Figures compiled by the Parliamentary Library show that between 2009 and 2015 Government funding to Tertiary Institutions dropped by 4...
    Greens | 21-10
  • Students doing it tough as fees rise again
    The Government is making it increasingly difficult for Kiwis to gain tertiary education as fees continue to rise and access to student support becomes even more restricted, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Steven Joyce is shutting a generation...
    Labour | 20-10
  • Key misled New Zealand on Iraq deployment
      John Key was misleading New Zealanders prior to the election when he ruled out New Zealand special forces being deployed to Iraq, says Labour Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff.  “Post-election he has cynically disregarded that by saying that deployment of...
    Labour | 20-10
  • Swearing about swearing the oath
    Yesterday, I was swearing. Swearing the Parliamentary oath, that is. But, under my breath, I was also quietly swearing about the archaic, colonial form of that oath and its inappropriateness for today’s Aotearoa New Zealand. To be permitted to speak...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Damning report on Ruataniwha dam numbers
    When I presented my submission to the Board of Inquiry on the Tukituki Catchment Proposal I compared the proposed 83 metre high Ruataniwha dam with the Clyde Dam and noted the risk of cost blowouts in the construction process.  The...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Church congratulated on child poverty stand
    The efforts by the bishops of the Anglican Church to ensure that the issue of child poverty is not forgotten is a call to all New Zealanders to take action, says Labour’s Interfaith-Dialogue Spokesperson, Su’a William Sio.   “I think...
    Labour | 19-10
  • Labour names Review Team
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has appointed Bryan Gould as Convenor of its post-General Election Review.  He will be joined on the Review Team by Hon Margaret Wilson, Stacey Morrison and Brian Corban (see further biographical details here). The Review Team...
    Labour | 19-10
  • Labour backs urban development plans
    Auckland Council’s plan to set up an urban development agency is to be applauded and central government should get behind it to make it a success, Labour’s Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford says. Auckland Council CEO Stephen Town has indicated plans...
    Labour | 18-10
  • New Zealand can be rightly proud of seat on Security Council
    Gaining a seat on the United Nation’s Security Council shows the sort of standing that New Zealand has in the world and the quality of the long campaign that we ran over nearly a decade, says Foreign Affairs spokesperson David...
    Labour | 16-10
  • NZ has opportunity on UN Security Council
    New Zealand has an opportunity to make a major contribution to the strengthening of international law and institutional capacity through its upcoming two-year tenure on the United Nations Security Council, Green Party spokesperson on global affairs, Dr Kennedy Graham said...
    Greens | 16-10
  • MPI still dragging the chain over causes of food bug
    The Ministry of Primary Industries’ release of Environmental Science and Research’s initial reports regarding the sources of a nasty stomach bug will be little comfort to the 127 people affected by it, Labour’s Food Safety spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “This...
    Labour | 16-10
  • Treasury officials should try working without food
    The Green Party is challenging Treasury officials to work for a week without eating properly, in light of their advice to Government that a food in schools programme is not needed."Treasury's advice was that providing food for children in schools...
    Greens | 15-10
  • Councils need to better protect our drinking water
    Environment Canterbury (ECan) is proposing several variations to its regional land and water plan that will allow for increased nutrient and other pollution from irrigation and intensive agriculture on the Canterbury Plains. Commissioners are hearing submissions on Variation 1 to...
    Greens | 15-10
  • National needs to commit to making NZ workers safe
    The National Government must do more to help make New Zealand workplaces a safer place to work in, Green Party industrial relations spokesperson Denise Roche said today.Data released by Statistics New Zealand today showed that workers in the fishing and...
    Greens | 15-10
  • Key commits to deployment before consultation or analysis
    John Key’s offer to consult Opposition parties on whether to deploy New Zealand forces against ISIS looks increasingly like a PR exercise only, says Labour’s Defence spokesperson, Phil Goff. “The presence of New Zealand’s Chief of Defence Force at a...
    Labour | 15-10
  • National must end ideological opposition to raising income
    If John Key is serious about tackling child poverty he must approach it with an open mind, and overcome his ideological block to raising incomes as a solution, the Green Party said today.Papers released to Radio New Zealand today show...
    Greens | 14-10
  • Pentagon links climate change and terrorism
    Yesterday the Pentagon launched a plan to deal with a threat that “poses immediate risks to national security”; one that “will affect the Department of Defense’s ability to defend the nation”. It wasn’t referring to Ebola or ISIS. It was...
    Greens | 14-10
  • Four Nominees for Labour’s Leadership
    As at 5pm today four valid nominations had been received for the position of Labour Leader, as follows: Andrew Little(nominated by Poto Williams and Iain Lees-Galloway) Nanaia Mahuta(nominated by Louisa Wall and Su’a William Sio) David Parker(nominated by Damien O’Connor...
    Labour | 14-10
  • Green Party calls for consultation over terrorism law changes
    The Green Party has today written to the Prime Minister asking him to engage in wider consultation prior to changing any laws as a result of the recently announced terrorism law reviews, said the Green Party today. In a letter...
    Greens | 14-10
  • MPI must name product and supermarket chain
    The Ministry of Primary Industries must name the product responsible for severe gastroenteritis affecting people around the country, and the supermarket chain distributing it, Labour’s Food Safety spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “The Ministry seems to be more concerned about protecting...
    Labour | 13-10
  • John Key dishonest about reasons for wanting to change terrorism law
    John Key is misleading the public to push through terrorism law changes under urgency, the Green Party said today. On Sunday, John Key stated that it is not illegal for someone to fight overseas for a terrorist group, such as...
    Greens | 12-10
  • Law changes shaping up to be worse than first thought
    The Prime Minister needs to be up front about exactly what changes he is planning to make to the Employment Relations  Amendment Bill, Labour's spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.Interviewed on Q&A yesterday John Key said he did not...
    Labour | 12-10
  • Rapists, not Tinder, the threat to women
    Blame for rape and sexual assault should only ever be laid at the door of the perpetrator, not dating services or the actions of women themselves, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “Tinder is not the problem and women...
    Labour | 09-10
  • Safer Journeys For People Who Cycle
    You have a rare opportunity to tell the people who are making the decisions on cycling how to make it better. The Cycling Safety Panel is seeking feedback on their draft recommendations for improving the safety of cycling in New...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Subsidising more pollution will undermine water clean-up plan at Te Waihora...
    In 2010, NIWA found Canterbury’s Te Waihora/Lake Ellesmere had the worst nutrient status of 140 lakes around New Zealand that it measured. In 2011, the National Government committed to spending $15 million across the country through the Fresh Start for...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Adding value not herbicides
    The HT swedes, and other brassicas, might seem like a good idea to farmers struggling against weeds but like the GE road, is this the path we want our agriculture to be treading? The Federated Farmers President, Dr William Rolleston...
    Greens | 07-10
  • ‘Blame the Planner’ bizarre approach to child poverty
    The National Government is stooping to a bizarre new low in blaming "planning processes" for poverty and inequality, after spending six years doing nothing about either the housing market or child poverty, the Green Party said today. Finance Minister Bill...
    Greens | 07-10
  • Media Advisory
    MANA Leader, Hone Harawira will not be available to speak with media today regarding his release “Recount Just One Step To restoring Credibility”. He is however available for media comment tomorrow, Tuesday the 8th of October, all media arrangements are...
    Mana | 07-10
  • RECOUNT JUST ONE STEP TO RESTORING CREDIBILITY
    “I have applied for a judicial recount of the votes in the Tai Tokerau election because it is one step in trying to restore credibility to the electoral process in the north, and, I suspect, in all other Maori electorates...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA SEEKS TAI TOKERAU RECOUNT
    The MANA Movement is supporting Leader Hone Harawira’s application for a judicial re-count in the Te Tai Tokerau electorate for the 2014 general election. President Lisa McNab says there are a number of serious issues of concern regarding the ability...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA to fight mass privatisation of state housing
    Announcements over the past 12 hours from the Minister responsible for Housing New Zealand, Bill English, and Minister for Social Housing, Paula Bennett, make clear the government’s intention for the mass privatisation of state housing. This comes during the middle...
    Mana | 07-10
  • Journalists have right to protect sources
    Legal authorities must respect the right of journalist Nicky Hager to protect the source of his material for his Dirty Politics book under Section 68 of the Evidence Act, Acting Labour Leader David Parker says. “It is crucial in an...
    Labour | 06-10
  • It shouldn’t take the Army to house the homeless
    National’s move to speed up its state house sell-off shows it is bankrupt of new ideas, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “National has been in office for six years, yet the housing crisis has got worse every month and...
    Labour | 06-10
  • Government must lift social housing supply, not shuffle the deck chairs
    National's decision to shift the state provision of housing to third parties is a smokescreen for the Government decreasing the provision of affordable housing, the Green Party said today."What National should be doing is increasing the supply of both social...
    Greens | 06-10
  • Election 2014 – the final count
    While we have to wait for the final booth level counts we can now see how well we did in the specials and look at electorate level data. First off special votes (and disallowed/recounted votes etc). There was a change...
    Greens | 06-10
  • We need more houses, not Ministers
    The Government’s decision to have three housing Ministers will create a dog’s breakfast of the portfolio and doesn’t bode well for fixing the country’s housing crisis, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “New Zealanders need more houses, not more Ministers....
    Labour | 05-10
  • MANA’S CHALLENGE TO THE 51st PARLIAMENT
    Ten years ago I led 50,000 Maori on the historic FORESHORE AND SEABED MARCH from Te Rerenga Wairua to the very steps of this parliament, in a march against the greatest land grab in the history of this country –...
    Mana | 03-10
  • Is this really necessary?
    No one denies chief executives should be well paid for their skills and experience, but it is the efforts of all employees which contribute to company profits, Labour’s Acting Leader David Parker says. “Salaries paid to chief executives come at...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Lyttelton Port workers also deserve pay rises
    Hard slog by Lyttelton Port workers contributed to strong financial growth for the company and they deserve to be rewarded for their work as much as its chief executive, says Labour’s Acting Leader David Parker. “Lyttelton Port chief executive Peter...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Māori Party must seek guarantees on Māori seats
    Labour is calling on the Māori Party to ensure protection of the Māori seats is part of its coalition deal with National which is being considering this weekend, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “For the third consecutive term,...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Donaghys job losses another blow to Dunedin
    The loss of 30 jobs from Donaghys rope and twine factory is yet another blow to the people and economy of Dunedin, says Dunedin South Labour MP Clare Curran. “Donaghys was founded in 1876; the company has survived two world...
    Labour | 02-10
  • 5AA Australia – NZ on UN Security Council + Dirty Politics Lingers On
    5AA Australia: Selwyn Manning and Peter Godfrey deliver their weekly bulletin Across The Ditch. General round up of over night talkback issues: Thongs, Jandals and flip-flops… ISSUE 1: New Zealand has been successful in its campaign to become a non...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • When I mean me, I mean my office & when I call whaleoil I mean not as m...
    This. Is. Ludicrous. Green Party co-leader Russel Norman put the first of what are likely to be many questions about Mr Key’s relationship with Slater, asking him how many times he had phoned or texted the blogger since 2008. “None...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • A brief word on describing the Government as ‘boring and bland’
    The narrative being sown is that this Government will be a boring and bland third term. Boring and bland. Since the election, Key has announced he is privatising 30% of state houses without reinvesting any of that money back into housing society’s most...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • More Latté Than Lager: Reflections on Grant Robertson’s Campaign Launch.
    BIKERS? SERIOUSLY! Had Grant Robertson’s campaign launch been organised by Phil Goff? Was this a pitch for the votes of what few Waitakere Men remain in the Labour Party? Was I even at the right place? Well, yes, I was....
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • About Curwen Ares Rolinson
    Curwen Ares Rolinson – Curwen Ares Rolinson is a firebrand young nationalist presently engaged in acts of political resistance deep behind enemy lines amidst the leafy boughs of Epsom. He is affiliated with the New Zealand First Party; although his...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kelly Ellis
    Kelly Ellis.Kelly Ellis – As a child, Kelly Ellis didn’t so much fall into the cracks, but willfully wriggled her way into them. Ejected from Onslow College – a big job in the 70s – Kelly worked in car factories,...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kate Davis
    Kate Davis.Kate Davis – Having completed her BA in English and Politics, Kate is now starting her MA. Kate works as a volunteer advocate at Auckland Action Against Poverty and previously worked for the New Zealand Prostitutes Collective. Kate writes...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Parker does a Shearer – oh for a Labour Leader who can challenge msm fals...
    Sigh. It seems David Parker has done a Shearer… Like a cult and too red – Parker on LabourLabour leadership contender David Parker says Labour borders on feeling like “a cult” and must look at its branding – including its...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • A brief word on the hundreds of millions NZ is spending on the secret intel...
    The enormity of the mass surveillance state NZ Government’s have built carries a huge price tag… Kiwis pay $103m ‘membership fee’ for spyingThe $103 million taxpayer funding of New Zealand’s intelligence agencies is effectively a membership fee for joining the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Where. Is. Jason. Ede?
    Where. Is. Jason. Ede?...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Labour’s Din of Inequity
    Watching Labour’s leadership candidates on Q+A on Sunday, I noticed the ongoing use of terms like “opportunity” and “aspiration”, and “party of the workers”. What do these mean? We glean much from Labour, and from the media about Labour, but not...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • “Blue-Greenwash” fails the test when it comes to endangered dolphins
    National’s pre-election promises saw some wins for the environment – perhaps as the party sought to appease its “Blue-Green” voters and broaden its popular appeal. Some of the ecological gains were a long time in the making, overdue even– such...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Reasons not to be cheerful, Part #272b
    Why don’t you get back into bed? The next few years — the rest of this century — are not going to be pretty. There is an obvious disconnect between any remaining political ambition to fix climate change and the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • OIA protocols and official advice ignored to hide Child Poverty
    It might not seem so now, but child poverty was a major election issue. What a pity we did not have the full debate. In that debate it would have been very helpful to have seen the Ministry of Social...
    The Daily Blog | 20-10
  • Previewing the 4 candidates for Leader of the Labour Party
    The extraordinary outbursts by Shearer last week highlights just how toxic that Caucus is. Shearer was on every major media platform as the ABC attack dog tearing into Cunliffe in the hope of diminishing Cunliffe’s support of Little by tearing...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – the sudden explosion of ‘left’ blogs
    Time to Teach or more people will suffer from P.A.I.D. Political And Intellectual Dysmorphia.I was on the Twitter and a guy followed me so of course I did the polite thing and followed him back. He wrote a blog so...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Ego vs Eco
    Ego vs Eco...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • We can’t let the Roastbuster case slip away
    Those of us (like me) left with hope that the police would aggressively follow through on the large amount of evidence on offer to them (let’s not forget they forgot they even had some at one point) in the Roastbusters...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Food, shelter and medicine instead of bombs and bullets
    The on-going conflict across the Middle East – due in large part to the US-led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq – has created another humanitarian crisis of biblical proportion. The essentials of life are desperately needed in Iraq and Syria...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • The politics of electorate accommodations
    National’s electorate accommodations with ACT and United Future were a big factor in it winning re-election. Interestingly, there is another electorate accommodation scenario whereby the centre-left could have come out on top, even with the same distribution of party votes....
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Why you should join the TPPA Action on 8 November
    On 8 November 2014, thousands of Kiwis will take part in the International Day of Action to protest the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA). The rally cry for us is TPPA – Corporate Trap, Kiwis Fight Back. Why should you join...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG – Patrick O’Dea: no new coal mines
    Green Party and Mana Party policy is “NO NEW COAL MINES!” Auckland Coal Action is trying to put this policy into action on the ground. ACA after a hard fought two year campaign waged alongside local residents and Iwi, in...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Comparing Police action – Hager raid vs Roast Buster case
    This satire had the NZ Police contact TDB and threaten us with 6months in prison for using their logo.   The plight of Nicky Hager and the draconian Police actions against him has generated over  $53 000 in donations so...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Malala Yousafzai, White Saviour Complexes and Local Resistance
    Last week, Malala Yousafzai was the co-recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. Since her exposure to the worldwide spotlight, her spirit, wisdom and strength have touched the hearts of people everywhere. However, there have been cynics who have argued that...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Jason Ede is back – but no media can interview him?
    Well, well, well. Jason Ede, the main figure connected to John Key’s office and the Dirty Politics black ops is back with a company with deep ties to the National Party. One thing you can say about the right –...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Leadership Transitions In Other Parties: A ...
    As cannot have escaped anyone’s attention by now, the country is presently in the grips of an election and campaign that will help determine the fate of the nation for years to come. It’s gripping stuff – with clear divides...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • SkyCity worker says she faces losing her house
    SkyCity worker Carolyn Alpine told the company annual shareholder’s meeting today that she faced the prospect of losing her house because the company had cut her shifts from two a week to one without consultation. The solo mother, has worked...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • Greg O’Connor’s latest push to arm cops & 5 reasons not to
    I was wondering at what point within a 3rd term of National that Police Cheerleader Greg O’Connor would start trying to demand cops be armed. O’Connor must have thought to himself, ‘if bloody Key can get us and the GCSB vast new...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • You can’t have crisis without ISIS
    So the new scary bogeyman ISIS might have chemical weapons that the US secretly found in Iraq, but America didn’t want to expose this find because the WMDs were actually built and made by the US and Europe, the two powers...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • NZ WINS UN SPIN THE BOTTLE! Privately sucking up to America for a decade me...
    Oh, we are loved! Little old NZ, the 53rd state of America after Israel and Australia, gets to sit at the adults table for the special dinner party that is the UN Security Council. How delightful, a decade of privately...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • MEDIA BLOG – Myles Thomas – A World Without Advertising
    Non-commercial broadcasting and media. It’s a solution for all manner of problems ailing our tender nation… voter engagement, unaccountable governance, apathy, stupefaction, public education, science in schools, arts appreciation, cultural cringe… But no-one could’ve guessed that non-commercial media might solve...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October
    March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • Whack a mole as US govt foreign policy
    Whack-A-Mole was a popular arcade game from my youth.  It consisted of a waist high cabinet with holes in the top. Plastic moles seemingly randomly pop out of these holes. The purpose of the game was to hit as many...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • In Paean of Debt
    This week is ‘Money Week’. It’s an opportunity to promote to the middle classes, and anyone else who will listen, the virtues of wise ‘investment’. The aims are to promote the mystical (and indeed mythical) virtues of saving for the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • The last 48 hours – Poverty denial, war denial and unapologetic abuse of ...
    The bewildering speed of events that simply end in Key shrugging and proclaiming he doesn’t really give a shit is coming think and fast as the Government suddenly appreciate the full spectrum dominance they now enjoy. Here is Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Mana 2.0 Rebooted
    Internationally the news is that Evo Morales of Bolivia won big with Left Wing policies But what are the chances that the Left will make a resurgence in this country? As the internecine struggles between the Left and the Right...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Blomfield IPCA letter – Has Dirty Politics leaked into the NZ Police ...
    It’s difficult to know what to make of the IPCA letter to Matthew Blomfield over Slater’s continued insistence that the hard drive taken from Matthew wasn’t stolen.  Slater has selectively cherry picked the Police referring back to his claim that Blomfeild perjured...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • ​Media release: Rail and Maritime Transport Union – Auckland move for K...
    The Rail and Maritime Transport Union is questioning a KiwiRail proposal to progressively relocate its Zero Harm personnel from Wellington to Auckland. “The purpose of the Zero Harm team is to drive KiwiRail’s performance in health and safety.  Rail is a...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Amnesty International – Friend request from an IS militant
    There’s always that one person, that one Facebook friend, usually a musician or event promoter, who, when you so foolishly accept their friend request, will completely inundate your news feed with copious event invitations and promotions. The person who, despite...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • NZ should follow the UK and recognize the Palestinian state
    Over the past two weeks, the United Kingdom and Sweden have made headlines through their decisions to recognize the state of Palestine. They are hardly the first nations to do so. Indeed, 134 countries have, in various ways, given formal...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Discordant Chimes of Freedom: Why Labour has yet to be forgiven.
    WHY DOES THE ELECTORATE routinely punish Labour and the Greens for their alleged “political correctness” but not National? It just doesn’t seem fair. Consider, for example, the Crimes (Substituted Section 59) Amendment Act 2007 – the so-called “anti-smacking legislation” –...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Hosking or Henry – Which right wing crypto fascist clown do you want to w...
    So Mediaworks are finally going to make some actual money from their eye watering contract with Paul Henry by launching a new multi-platform Breakfast show over TV, Radio and internet. This is great news for Campbell Live who have dodged...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Families need more money to reduce child poverty
    Prime Minister John Key is mistaken to rule out extending the In Work Tax Credit to all poor children (The Nation 11th Oct) and Child Poverty Action Group challenges government advisors to come up with a more cost effective way...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Don’t shit on my dream
    Once were dreamers. A large man, walks down the road and, even from 200 yards there’s light showing between his big arms and bigger body. It’s as if he’s put tennis balls under his arms. Two parking wardens walk out...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Labour and ‘special interests’
    The media narrative of Labour is that it is unpopular because it’s controlled by ‘special interests’. This ‘special interests’ garbage is code for gays, Maoris, wimin and unionists. We should show that argument the contempt it deserves. The next Labour...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Ru...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Tahi) . National’s housing development project: ‘Gateway’ to confusion . Perhaps nothing better illustrates National’s lack of a coherent housing programme than the ‘circus’ that is...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Here’s what WINZ are patronisingly saying to people on welfare when they ...
    Yesterday, a case manager from WINZ called to tell me that I needed to “imagine what I would do if I did not have welfare”. I replied “Well, I guess if I couldn’t live at home, I would be homeless.”...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • David Shearer’s ‘no feminist chicks’ mentality highlights all that is...
    Mr Nasty pays a visit Shearer’s extraordinary outburst last night on NZs favourite redneck TV, The Paul Henry Show, is a reminder of all that is wrong within the Labour Caucus right now… He said the current calls for a female or...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Greenpeace 1 – Shell 0
    Greenpeace 1 – Shell 0...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – A Tale Of Two Cities
    Sunday was surreal. I went for a drive and ended up in a different country. It wasn’t intentional but those days of too many literally intertextual references seldom are. There is no doubt that the Sunday drive this week had...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • FMA warns consumers about cold-calling investment offers
    The Financial Markets Authority (FMA) is warning New Zealand consumers and investors to be wary of cold-calls asking them to buy shares or put their money into offshore firms....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Comprehensive plan needed to end child poverty
    Child Poverty Action Group says it is vital the newly re-elected National government takes a planned and comprehensive approach to reducing child poverty in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Metiria Gets Feed the Kids
    Yesterday the Speaker of the House advised that he had accepted my request to transfer my Feed the Kids (Education (Breakfast and Lunch Programmes in Schools) Amendment) Bill to Metiria Turei of the Green Party....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • DIA undercover investigation leads to jailing
    An undercover Internal Affairs investigation has led to a Hastings man being jailed for three and half years....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Call on Minister McCully to pursue the case of Balibo Five
    Media Information: Call on Minister McCully to pursue the case of journalist Gary Cunningham and the Balibo Five...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Australia and NZ actions on press freedoms alarming
    Global support for investigative journalism in Australia and New Zealand is a welcome response to law changes and a police raid, says the Pacific Freedom Forum...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Call for release of French journalists in West Papua
    West Papua Action Auckland, the EPMU Print and Media Council and the NZ Media Freedom Network call on the Minister of Foreign Affairs to speak out in support of the two French TV journalists whose trial has just begun in...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Court of Appeal: Dotcom v 20th Century Fox Film Corporation
    A The appeal is dismissed. B The 20 August 2014 order of the High Court dealing with confidentiality and the 29 August 2014 order of this Court dealing with confidentiality are set aside. C The confidentiality orders set out in...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Glassons Blasted For Glamourising Animal Cruelty
    Clothing brand Glassons have found themselves embroiled in another controversy after launching a new advert featuring a girl riding a bull. Animal advocacy organisation SAFE have asked them to remove the ad immediately as it glamourises animal cruelty....
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Smuggling honey into New Zealand isn’t sweet
    Smuggling honey into New Zealand isn’t sweet Federated Farmers Bee Industry Group applauds the tough line taken by Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) Border Staff at Auckland Airport. In deporting the couple found trying to smuggle bee products...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Taxpayers’ Union Responds to Joyce on Corporate Welfare
    Responding to Economic Development Minister Steven Joyce’s defence of corporate welfare , Jim Rose, the author of Monopoly Money , a Taxpayers Union report on corporate welfare since 2008, says:...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech from the Throne brings welcome focus on children
    Today’s speech from the Throne confirms the Government’s focus on children, youth and their families in the areas of health, education, youth employment, poverty alleviation and Whānau Ora; now the challenge is to ensure every child in New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • John’s Job Fairs no fix for unemployment and poverty
    “John Key has clearly been looking to the US for his latest bright idea on dealing with employment issues,” says Auckland Action Against Poverty coordinator Sue Bradford. “Job fairs where the desperately unemployed queue in their corporate best to compete...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech From the Throne Foreshadows More Corporate Welfare
    Responding to the Governor General’s Speech from the Throne, which outlined that the Government’s intentions for the next Parliamentary term would include further Business Growth Agenda initiatives, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Green MP to speak at panel on Rainbow Mental Health
    Hamilton, New Zealand: Recently re-elected Green Party MP Jan Logie will be a guest speaker at a panel on the mental health of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Trangender, Takataapui and Intersex people taking place on November 1st as part of the...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Evidence Supports GE Moratorium
    Federated Farmers spokesman Graham Smith's call for a 'rethink' on release of GeneticallyEngineered organisms is misguided, and instead it is time for a formal moratorium on GMOs in the environment.(1)...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Chatham Rise mining could have impact on whales and dolphins
    Wellington, 21 October 2014--Mining phosphate on the Chatham Rise, off the east coast of New Zealand’s south island, could potentially have many impacts on marine mammals like whales and dolphins, the Environmental Protection Agency was told today....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Council endorses Nanaia Mahuta as the next Labour leader
    Te Kaunihera Māori, the Māori Council of the New Zealand Labour Party, have passed a resolution to endorse the Hon Nanaia Mahuta as the next leader of the Labour Party...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Kaumatua to organise petition to end Maori seats
    Ngapuhi kaumatua David Rankin has announced that he will be organising a nationwide petition to seek support from Maori voters to end the Maori seats. “These seats are patronising”, he says. “They imply we need a special status, and that...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Announcing a New Voice for The Left
    Josh Forman is pleased to announce the creation of a new force on the Left of politics in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Public services held back by poor workplace culture
    A new report by Victoria University’s Centre for Labour, Employment and Work shows that public servants are working significant unpaid overtime to ensure the public services New Zealanders value are able to continue....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • iPredict New Zealand Weekly Economic & Political Update
    Andrew Little’s probability of being the next leader of the Labour Party has reached 70% and Jacinda Ardern is favourite to become his deputy, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Prison Drug Treatment Unit marks a milestone
    Christchurch Men’s Prison’s Drug Treatment Unit (DTU) celebrated the completion of its 50th six month Drug and Alcohol Programme today, with the graduation of a further twelve offenders....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Security Council seat a chance for NZ to empower women
    The UN Women National Committee Aotearoa New Zealand (UN Women NCANZ) welcomes New Zealand winning a seat on the United Nations Security Council and is calling on New Zealand to use its position to proactively promote effective implementation of the...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Waipareira and ACC sign Partnership
    Waipareira and The Accident Compensation Corporation (ACC) have signed a Memorandum of Understanding at Whanau Centre, Henderson – marking a special day for the West Auckland Urban Maori organisation....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Humanitarian aid desperately needed in Iraq and Syria
    Global Peace and Justice Auckland is calling on the government to provide humanitarian funding for non-aligned NGOs (non-governmental organisations) in the Middle East rather than give any support whatever for the US-led military campaign in the area....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Court Judicial Decision: Dotcom v The USA: 17 October 2014
    The United States of America is seeking the extradition of Messrs Dotcom, Batato, Ortmann and Van Der Kolk. The matter has been before the Courts on numerous occasions, and no further recitation of the facts is needed....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Marshall Island poet speaks at UN climate summit
    “The fossil fuel industry is the biggest threat to our very existence as Pacific Islanders. We stand to lose our homes, our communities and our culture. But we are fighting back. This coming Friday thirty Pacific Climate Warriors, joined by...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Many tourist car accidents preventable
    Simple steps could dramatically reduce the number of accidents involving tourists, says the car review website dogandlemon.com ....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • RainbowYOUTH: 25 Years, 25 More
    In 1989, a group of young people in Auckland got together to form a support group for LGBTIQ youth. They called it Auckland Lesbian And Gay Youth (ALGY). After 25 years, several location changes, a name change, a brand reboot...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Outdated Oath shows need for Kiwi Head of State
    MPs are sworn in today and New Zealand Republic has written to MPs asking them to talk about why 121 New Zealanders elected by the people of New Zealand and standing in the New Zealand Parliament swear allegiance to another...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Council shouldn’t revenue grab from windfall valuations
    Auckland Council should state clearly they will not try and capture revenue as a result of the latest valuations and needs reminding that the City’s skyrocketing property values doesn’t change the level or cost of Council’s services, says...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • EPMU endorses Andrew Little for Labour leadership
    The National Executive of the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union unanimously endorsed Andrew Little for the role of Labour leader, at a meeting held yesterday. “I have been speaking to our workplace delegates at forums across the country over...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • World Food Day promotes Agroecology not GE technology
    The UN has stated that agroecology is a major solution to feeding the world and caring for the earth....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Labour Names Review Team
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has appointed Bryan Gould as Convenor of its post-General Election Review. He will be joined on the Review Team by Hon Margaret Wilson, Stacey Morrison and Brian Corban....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Contenders for Labour leadership debate for first time
    The contenders for the leadership of the Labour Party debated for the first time on TV One’s Q+A programme today....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • UN Ambassador Jim McLay on TV One’s Q+A programme
    New Zealand's United Nations Ambassador Jim McLay on TV One’s Q+A programme....
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • The Nation: RSA President BJ Clark & Ian Taylor, New NZ Flag
    Lisa Owen interviews RSA President BJ Clark and tech innovator Ian Taylor about changing the NZ flag...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • The Nation: RSA President BJ Clark & Ian Taylor, New NZ Flag
    Lisa Owen interviews RSA President BJ Clark and tech innovator Ian Taylor about changing the NZ flag...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • Lisa Owen interviews Foreign Minister Murray McCully
    Murray McCully says New Zealanders can expect a 5-10 year engagement against Islamic State if we join military action in Iraq and the government will take that “very carefully into account”...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • Lisa Owen interviews Julia Gillard
    Julia Gillard says there is “sufficient evidence” to fight Islamic State and does not think it will increase the risk of a domestic attack...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • NZ businesses to make child abuse a priority conversation
    Many leading New Zealand businesses have partnered with national child advocacy organisation Child Matters to participate in the fourth annual ‘Buddy Day’ - New Zealand’s only child abuse prevention awareness day....
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • Tribunal decision significant for SMEs
    The Human Rights Review Tribunal decided this week in favour of an employee’s right not to work on Saturdays for religious reasons. The decision may still be appealed but the Director of the Office of Human Rights Proceedings, Robert Kee,...
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • On The Nation this weekend
    This weekend on The Nation… New Zealand has been elected to the United Nations Security Council, but what happens next? Lisa Owen interviews Foreign Minister Murray McCully from New York about our goals for reform, what America wants from us...
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • 1000+ supported by Te Arawa Whanau Ora
    Over 1000 individual whānau members are leading happier, healthier, more successful lives as a result of eight passionate and committed Māori organisations working at the coalface to help whānau find success....
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • Nomination for Board Members Now Open
    CRF’s objective is to create opportunities for people from refugee backgrounds to lead fulfilling lives and contribute to every area of New Zealand society. It is an organisation that undertakes advocacy work using the strengths-based approach,...
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Anglican Family Care Otago staff to take industrial action
    Social workers, family workers and support staff working for Anglican Family Care in Dunedin and South Otago will take industrial action after their employer refused a pay increase that would keep up with the rising cost of living....
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Use UN Security Council role to overcome inaction and injust
    Amnesty International welcomes New Zealand winning a seat on the UN Security Council and is calling on New Zealand to use the role to ensure the body lives up to its role of safeguarding global peace and security....
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Grisham’s ‘child porn’ comments ignorant
    World-renowned author John Grisham has come under fire by advocacy group Stop Demand Foundation, for comments it says trivialises the global child sex abuse trade....
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Latest leak of TPPA intellectual property text confirms risk
    On the eve of the latest (non)round of negotiations on the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) yet another version of the intellectual property has found its way to Wikileaks ....
    Scoop politics | 16-10
Public service advertisements by The Standard

Current CO2 level in the atmosphere