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National has a big asset-sale problem

Written By: - Date published: 4:36 pm, December 16th, 2013 - 128 comments
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In the continuing deluge of information post referendum, lets have a wee look at some analysis where the vote for No came from. Even in National held electorates, their MPs have big turnouts and big votes against asset sales. I’ve chosen to put this image in turnout order purely to illustrate the point that Matthew Hooten can’t read numbers. The turnout across the country is highly uneven. In postal votes, the South Island and National held electorates generally turn out far more than Labour or Auckland urban electorates.

It also again illustrates Rob Salmond’s point that the postal voting system effectively disenfranchises electorates with large numbers of Maori and Pasifika.

The other images can be seen here.

turnout high-low data - Imgur

Click on image to get larger version.

So to summarize, the asset sales program is highly disliked across all of rural and provincial NZ – most of which is in National held electorates.

About the only electorates that liked assets sales were (surprise, surprise) where the bankers, stock market clowns, and investors hang out. Epsom, Tamaki, Helensville, Botany, parts of the North Shore in Auckland, etc. In short the home and haunts of the favoured 1% for whom the theft of assets for the rest of the voters was designed to assist.

The really bad news for National is that most of the voter turnout was (as expected) National voters who in most National held electorates largely voted against the asset sales almost two to one. Especially in the provincial seats that National has to hold to retain the treasury benches.

The turnout differences between seats in a postal vote are far more pronounced than general elections almost exactly following the deprivation indexes. Which once again reinforces that postal votes are effectively discriminatory against the poor.  You can see why National preferred to waste $9 million holding this referendum vote out from the general election. The results for National’s mythical “Mandate” with a higher turnout in Labour, Maori party, and Mana held electorates would have been disastrous.

128 comments on “National has a big asset-sale problem”

  1. Rogue Trooper 1

    Hey, I only just commented about this in ‘The Working Class’ thread (very good thread too, I might tell you), and now there’s the opportunity to do so again.

    • lprent 1.1

      Good graphics eh. Bloody amazing that with the exception of only relative handful and half, most of the National electorates most voted two to one against asset sales.

  2. Richard Christie 2

    Do people in here intentionally misspell Hooton’s surname?
    Not that I particularly object, it’s just that I see it too often for it to be explained by other reasons.

  3. emergency mike 3

    From this chart we could figure out what the overall yes/no vote would have been if there was a 100% turnout if we had a list of the voting population numbers for each electorate. I’d say even the lowest turnout of 28.9% is enough to make a reasonable assumption about for that electorate. If there is a statistician here they’d be able to whip up a margin of error I’m sure.

    • McFlock 3.1

      nah, because it’s self-selecting and the nats would argue a heavy advertising bias. The old “we knew we were going to lose so we didn’t even try, just to make you look silly” gambit.

      But 900k votes are still 900k votes. They can tell themselves no nats voted “no”, but when they’re hanging on to power with <50% of the vote + 2 rotten boroughs … I'm happy for them to pretend that that's the case :)

      • lprent 3.1.1

        It is the vote in those relatively high turnout provincial seats that has to be the killer for National. If Labour puts up a credible team and platform, then 1999 and 2002 shows that the vote can move pretty rapidly in those electorates against National.

        That being said, I really don’t want Labour to focus too much on that short-term gain. They need to concentrate on the enrolled non-voters and non-enrolled young voters. Because that is where they get their long-term electoral power base from. Making sure that they aren’t just scrapping with National over a fickle and aging but solid voting centre is a negative game for Labour.

        Quite simply the non-voters are the fastest growing demographic in the country. That is where they need to concentrate their efforts.

        • Matthew Hooton 3.1.1.1

          lprent, not sure you are right that the non-vote is fastest growing demographic in the country. In 2002, the non-vote was 614,645. That dropped to 543,258 in 2005 and returned to 614,308 in 2008. It then jumped to 792,011 in 2011. So there is a general trend up, but the total roll also increased from 2,670.049 in 2002 to 3,071,000 in 2011. So the non-vote is important and Labour-Green is right to chase it but there are probably more than 500,000 people who will never vote no matter what anyone tells them. Also, I think our rolls are getting messy. For example, when you are asked to renew, you get a letter saying “if nothing has changed then you need to do nothing”. So when someone moves flat/house/country, if no one forwards that letter on, or they don’t contact the Electoral Commission proactively, they remain on the roll in that electorate even if they have moved overseas. So the 3,071,000 on the roll in 2011 is probably also inflated, which means the true 2011 non-vote is a bit lower than “the missing million” – actually 792,011 – that David Cunliffe has spoken of.

          • Paul 3.1.1.1.1

            Spin…spin

            • Matthew Hooton 3.1.1.1.1.1

              Thank you for engaging with your normal intelligence with the points I have raised above.

              • McFlock

                To be fair, you did take a lot of words to say fuck all of any use or point.

                • felix

                  That could be his epitaph one day.

                  • rhinocrates

                    It would be an epitaph, but how can the someone who never lived die?

                    Thank you for engaging with your normal intelligence with the points I have raised above.

                    I have to say that its pomposity and pretense to “dignity” is amusing, like a cat caught tripping up which then starts licking its paws. Hoots pretending to be an intellectual – that has to be funny.

                    • lurgee

                      Some very unpleasant and childish spite, above, directed at someone trying to make a contribution. Grow up, nasty little boys.

                      Is this another example of Rhinocrates’s ‘necessary abusive bullying’? Still, excellent self-description in your final paragraph, Rhino!

                    • rhinocrates

                      Oh, disease, poor Hoots, he’s such a victim, isn’t he?

                      Nope, sorry, I’ve no intention of growing up at all, disease. The people who try too hard at that generally don’t turn out well. They do weird things like buying Holdens and living in suburbs.

                    • lurgee

                      Did I say he was a victim? I simply recalled some comments you made about bullies and the necessity of exposing them. I pointed out you were quite happy to behave in similar behaviour yourself – your personal attacks on Hooten being another instance. You immediately engaged in the classic abuser’s behaviour of denial and justification. As here. Face it. You are what you purport to despise – an internet bully boy. And you probably own a Holden and live in the suburbs, just to complete the picture.

                      P.S. I think I also recall you getting Very Upset when I suggested someone as thin-skinned as yourself shouldn’t be named after the noble Rhinoceros. You replied with some rather surreal and spittle flecked yowling about how I had no right to tell another poster what to call themselves. Nice to see you again demonstrating bottomless hypocrisy by changing my moniker to ‘disease.’ Don’t confuse my comment for caring – your barbs are rather blunt.

          • Draco T Bastard 3.1.1.1.2

            For example, when you are asked to renew, you get a letter saying “if nothing has changed then you need to do nothing”. So when someone moves flat/house/country, if no one forwards that letter on, or they don’t contact the Electoral Commission proactively, they remain on the roll in that electorate even if they have moved overseas.

            Last time I moved house within a week I had a letter from the Electoral Commission asking me to update my details.

            GENERAL ELECTIONS 1853-2011 – DATES AND TURNOUT
            When doing comparisons of turnout for voting you need to use percentages and not raw numbers. That means that such comparisons are like to like rather than being spin which is what you gave us.

            which means the true 2011 non-vote is a bit lower than “the missing million” – actually 792,011 – that David Cunliffe has spoken of.

            And, despite decades being a jonolist you seem to never have heard of hyperbole, exaggeration and rounding.

          • emergency mike 3.1.1.1.3

            Thanks for the concern Matthew.

            Let’s listen to Hooten and forget about the 800,000 people who weren’t inspired enough to vote in 2011. I guess we should go back to the tired old same old same of trying to woo voters from National with don’t-rock-the-boat policy waffle that’s slightly to the left of the right of centre.

      • emergency mike 3.1.2

        “nah, because it’s self-selecting”

        True, but if it’s OK for Key to come up with “Three quarters of New Zealanders said no,” then I think coming up with a number like this would be a good and fair PR response.

        People like numbers more than rationalizations, which is why Key can spin this referendum any way he likes and still loses.

  4. Quincepickle 4

    Postal voting doesn’t appear to be any different from election balloting in terms of what electorates have the lowest turnout – the Maori and South Auckland electorates *always* have much lower turnout than other electorates, regardless of the measure of voting. The lower overall turnout with postal votes just makes the Maori and South Auckland vote turnout look even more dire. The poor turnout is a result of wider societal issues, not from postal voting itself.

    • Rogue Trooper 4.1

      -Medlarjelly
      “The middle of humanity thou never knewest, but the extremity of both ends”. - Timon of Athens

  5. Matthew Hooton 5

    So, in conservative Clutha-Southland 28% of people voted against the MOM. And in Dunedin South 41% voted against the MOM. Look, there is no doubt the left won the referendum and a majority of people are against the MOM, but this referendum result demonstrates that most opponents are not as passionate about the issue as Labour-Green has assumed. Certainly, this issue doesn’t raise the same passions as smacking did, for example, or longer prison sentences, or cutting MP numbers.

    • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 5.1

      The clearest message of this referendum is that there are extremely low numbers of people who support the sales.

      Little wonder Key is saying stranger and stranger things by the day to cover the fact. He should simply concede defeat – it would be a better look. Good on you for admitting the obvious Hooton – albeit while attempting to marginalize the overwhelming nature of the result.

    • Paul 5.2

      Spin…spin
      The corporates must be terrified.

    • Tigger 5.3

      “but this referendum result demonstrates that most opponents are not as passionate about the issue as Labour-Green has assumed.”

      Interesting spin. Here’s mine – the referendum shows that when a government does its best to skew democracy, for example when, where and how to hold a referendum, it affects democracy. For the worse. Which is nothing to be proud, or smug, about.

      • Paul 5.3.1

        It is when you’re someone like Hooton.
        As long as he’s doing ok, then he’ll spin anything for his corporate clients.
        Some people have no principles.

        • rhinocrates 5.3.1.1

          Oh come now, Hoots has plenty of principles – and he puts a high value on them too, making sure that he sells them for the highest price that he can get!

    • lprent 5.4

      Actually this is exactly what I was saying the other day when you were blathering about a even distribution. This is a electorate distribution that is tilted towards National rural/provincial and South Island electorates for turnout. It is highly likely that this displays that National’s voters from 2011 don’t think that they gave National a mandate to flog off their assets to their urban money mates. In fact I’d say that they’re kind of pissed about it.

      In most of the relatively conservative provincial and small city electorates (including some of the Labour ones), there was a pretty good turnout for a postal vote. It was mostly two to one against Nationals asset thefts.

      As expected for a postal vote National held conservative provincial electorates generally got 25% more turnout than the mid urban electorates when Labour and Green support is concentrated. Basically the poorer urban demographics don’t vote nearly as much in postal elections.

      Those same National held conservative provincial seats had about a 60% higher turnout than the poorest electorates seats in the country. Again exactly what you’d expect to see in a electorate where the most deprived vote the least in any postal vote.

      Basically it was almost certainly that National voters from 2011 who were the major voters against the asset thefts.

    • mac1 5.5

      In conservative Kaikoura, (National party vote 57% in 2011), 64 % of the voters, 14209 in all, voted No. Even if every Labour/Green?Mana/NZ First in 2011 had voted and voted No, there were still 1412 Nats/Conz/UF/Act voyers who voted No!

      The National Majority in 1999 (post the Bradford electricity reforms) in Kaikoura was 1486.

      Nats I have spoken to- the astute among them were against asset sales. The sales just were not good business sense, for them.

      • Rogue Trooper 5.5.1

        Boundary Road – Arabica Dabra ; yummy.

        • mac1 5.5.1.1

          Auckland brewery, there, Rogue Trooper. Down here, it’s about Renaissance Elemental Porter or 8-Wired I-stout. (Moa sold out to metro Auckland and its mysognystic and homophobic advertising geniuses. A bit of a connection there between how to spoil a good beer brand and how to spoil a country. Its beer sales are down the tubes as well, after a big share holding sale to big business interests- like the asset sales.)

    • LOL, because it’s an actual issue and not manufactured outrage, which is always easier to win, but dies out quicker when confronted with reality. The bad will generated by these asset sales isn’t going away, the trick will be capitalising on it. A lot of the people most represented in this poll as against asset theft are cultural National voters- that is, they identify with National regardless of their policies. It’s very hard to convince people like that to swing their vote. Rather, the likely result is decreased rural turnout at the next election.

      What I’d take home from the referendum:
      1) The opposition has won the argument on asset sales, not that the government ever intended to engage in it. This referendum was really about making it clear how to the media how big of a punching bag this issue is for the government.
      2) National could have a real voter flight problem at the next election, in addition to its lack of tenable allies. Cultural National voters won’t switch to a party on the other side of the aisle easily, but they don’t have to turn out if they’re disgusted with their party. It’s usually a matter of supporter flight that changes government anyway, so I wouldn’t be surprised.
      3) The referendum really doesn’t directly suggest any level of support for the opposition parties, however. It will take hard work to generate that support, on both a policy and political level.

      • Francis 5.6.1

        There’s also a possibility that some of them could move to a party like NZ First, which opposes most of National’s economic policy but holds a more conservative social policy than those on the left. Hard to say if that would be better or worse for those on the left than if they simply didn’t vote at all.

    • Skinny 5.7

      The sale of our assets has left a bitter taste to most people, apart from the Aussie Bankers & the rich investors. Anyone trying to say otherwise is a mug. 

      If I was Cunliffe I’d start talking up a buy back less costs. See he is keeping that option alive on morning tv today. 

      Key, Joyce & co may well have thought they got off relatively lightly, however compounding interest is going to see them take a pretty nasty hit in 2014.

      Key & Joyce are panicked, announcing the Avatar deal so soon after the referendum was bad timing. People saw it for what it was ‘damage control’.

      Something is up with the Chorus share trades. Someone has messed up squeaking a fav over Xmas drinks. Flush them out is my advice, any implied link to National would infuriate the masses.

      • Francis 5.7.1

        I heard something about Cunliffe offering to buy them back if they get in, subject to finances (like they did with Air NZ and the railways). I believe that’s been their policy for a while, same with the Greens. Though it’s hard to put a firm commitment in when you don’t know how much damage National will have done by the 2014 election.

  6. swordfish 6

    Yeah, in a comment earlier this afternoon (Open Mike 16/12/13), I set-out a quick bit of number-crunching I’d undertaken to test the Hooton/Tory Troll claims (namely that turnout was either (1) greater in Labour-held seats or (2) “fairly even throughout the country” (Hooton’s specific claim)).

    I used the Party-Vote (specifically, which Bloc – Left or Right – won in 2011) as the basis for determining the political complexion of each seat. (While Lynn employs a brilliant-looking and quite illuminating table, its one weakspot is that it uses the Candidate-Vote as the basis for colour-coding each seat. For example, in terms of high-turnout seats, although West Coast-Tasman is colour-coded Red, the Right had actually beaten the Left by 52 to 42% in the 2011 Party-Vote there. Similarly, in terms of low-turnout seats, although some of the Maori seats are colour-coded Black for the National/Right-aligned Maori Party MPs, they were, of course, all easily won by the Left in terms of the Party-Vote.

    So, to repeat my little bit of analysis, looking at the 20 seats with the HIGHEST turnout, we find that no less than 17 were won by the RIGHT in 2011 (and, what’s more, I’d classify only 1 of those 17 as MARGINAL RIGHT, the rest were either STRONG or FAIRLY STRONG RIGHT).

    Of the 20 seats with the LOWEST turnout, 14 were won by the LEFT in 2011, 6 by the RIGHT (and every single one of the 10 LOWEST-turnout seats were LEFT-leaning).

  7. blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 7

    Good on you lprent, for taking time to carefully explain the results to Hooton and co. whom appear to be having a great deal of trouble understanding the blatantly obvious.

    All this business about ‘fairly even turnout’ and ’3/4 of NZ supporting the sell-off’ I guess we are watching the effects of people having their self induced delusions shattered Poor wee dears. Perhaps they might be more cautious about swallowing their Dear Leader’s spin hook, line and sinker in future?

    • Matthew Hooton 7.1

      I don’t think anyone has ever said 3/4 of people support the MOM. It has always been acknowledged, even by the prime minister, that most people are opposed if asked to say yes or no to this single policy. The point, that the prime minister judged correctly in 2011 and Labour judged incorrectly, and which appears to have been confirmed by the referendum result, is that while around 30% feel very passionately that the policy is wrong, most people don’t care as much as Labour-Green and the media have assumed.

      • Paul 7.1.1

        Who pays you to write this stuff?

      • felix 7.1.2

        “I don’t think anyone has ever said 3/4 of people support the MOM.”

        Except John Key.

        • Tracey 7.1.2.1

          Well except for John key, unless you mean John Key, the Prime Minister who HootEn says never said that. Or probably didnt mean what he said and his words mean something totally different. Fortunately we have one of his interpreters in Mr HootEn to help us all out.

      • KJT 7.1.3

        It doesn’t seem to occur to Key, or you, for that matter, that if 2/3 of the owners vote against selling their property, then selling it is a criminal activity.

      • swordfish 7.1.4

        @ Young Master Hooton : “…around 30% feel very passionately that the policy is wrong, most people don’t care…”

        Nope. The one poll I’ve seen that attempts that sort of strength-of-feeling breakdown (Massey’s 2011 New Zealand Study of Values Survey) suggested that roughly half of New Zealanders were ‘Strongly’ opposed, with more than another quarter ‘More or Less’ opposed. A mere 8% were ‘more or less’ in favour, with a tiny – an incredibly tiny !!! – 1% ‘Strongly’ in favour.

        Given that opposition has increased by almost 10 percentage points over the last year-and-a-half, you’d have to assume that ‘Strong’ opposition has increased to more than 50% now.

        Here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/polls/5993822/Voters-turned-off-by-SOE-retirement-policies

        • Paul 7.1.4.1

          It is young Mister Hooton’s job to play with statistics.

        • Tracey 7.1.4.2

          Your mistake was not putting those figures through the HootEnator, or Keynoming it. It translates to exactly what Key or Hooten say it means.

      • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 7.1.5

        @ Hooton

        “I don’t think anyone has ever said 3/4 of people support the MOM. ” ~Hooton 16/12/2013

        “Three in four New Zealanders said no we don’t agree with Labour and the Greens. I think it will be a dismal failure from their point of view.” ~ John Key 14/12/2013

        • Paul 7.1.5.1

          He’s on a conference call with a foreign client on ‘something unrelated to NZ politics’.

          • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 7.1.5.1.1

            …yes, not to his masters…

            …they don’t need to give him any tips on how to spin this PR disaster or anything….

            …he’s managing just fine by himself…

            …erhem….

      • Tracey 7.1.6

        “Three in four New Zealanders said no we don’t agree with Labour and the Greens. I think it will be a dismal failure from their point of view.” – John Key

  8. Paul 8

    You seem to be…

  9. swordfish 9

    My earlier comment’s still in moderation for some reason.

    • swordfish 9.1

      And STILL my 6.05 pm turnout analysis is sitting quietly awaiting moderation !!! Still, then again, they say life’s a veil of tears, don’t they.

      [lprent: I was comforting a miserable and coughing Lyn. ]

      • Colonial Viper 9.1.1

        :) suffering refines and purifies the soul, so they say

        • swordfish 9.1.1.1

          Well, in that case, CV, I now have a particularly stylish, sophisticated and urbane soul. Because, INCREDIBLY !!!, my 6.05 comment’s STILL languishing quietly on a secluded beach somewhere in the upper reaches of moderation-land.

          [Sorry just released it and I have no idea why it went into moderation ... MS]

          [lprent: There are couple of people getting over moderated at present. I'll check in the morning if there is a glitch in the aour moderation lists. You could just (if you don't have a static IP) try restarting your internet ADSL. That often works because the IP you were using may have been tagged.

          BTW: I had to give up akismet last week as it got overwhelmed. The new protection is very finicky about how you get your references to us. This may target some browsers more than others. But it is also very very good at eliminating spam. ]

          • swordfish 9.1.1.1.1

            Cheers, Mickey.

            • swordfish 9.1.1.1.1.1

              @ 1prent : “I was comforting a miserable and coughing Lyn.”

              Ahh, now I feel like a right prick ! My moaning was meant to be tongue-in-cheek (albeit with just the slightest modicum of irritation underneath), but reading my comments back, I can see it comes across quite clearly as LOUD UPPER-CASE SHOUTING, with explanation marks to boot !!!

              I gave all the appearance of a spoiled brat.

              Apologies to both you, Mickey (and, indeed, Lyn).

  10. red blooded 10

    Hey, let’s turn back the clock, so that the referendum might have a hope of actually influencing policy and saving the assets, then see how many people feel passionate enough to vote.

    Given the dire circumstances in which the referendum was being held, the turn out was reasonable.

    • Paul 10.1

      Hooton knows that only a tiny minority of people actually support asset sales and that an even smaller group has actually bought these shares.
      It’s his job to represent that tiny group’s interests, so he’ll spin and spin statistics here and there and hope that some people will believe him. His masters need those people to vote against their own interests.

  11. greywarbler 11

    MOM? Meeting of Minds? Memorandum of Markets? It won’t come – can someone advice what it means please.

    • KJT 11.1

      Mixed ownership model.

      And yes, I don’t like overuse of initials, either.

      One of the annoying things when you work with North Americans.

      Especially when it should be CTONZA (Continued theft of New Zealander’s assets).

      ETC (“Enclosure of the commons”) would be another good description.

      • greywarbler 11.1.1

        KJT
        Thnx. It obviously is important to reduce everything to its skeleton in our time-poor culture and understanding is unimportant as so much has no meaning or rationality anyway.

        One of my bugbears is the practice of not giving businesses actual word names. ABC Motels doesn’t convey anything except a desire to be near the top of an alpha list, AAA Motels better. The actual AA stands for Automobile Association.

        If it is a short form for an already well-known longer name and used as a logo, there is a basis behind the letters ie the old social service group Crippled Childrens Society is now called CCS, which is better shorter, and doesn’t spell out literally the Crippled word that now has negative connotations that don’t indicate the positive activities of the Society and its clients.

        There is a legal firm in Nelson who have named themselves with three English alphabet letters, they might as well make them Russian or Arabic, as they don’t convey any recognisable identity.

    • Paul 11.2

      Mixed Ownership Model.
      This is a neoliberal word, translated from the word part privatised. This way they tone down the term and avoid the word privatised which has negative connotations for most people.
      People like Hooton know the power of language so ensure they use neo-liberal vocabulary to frame discussions.
      The most famous example would be the use of the word consumer to describe people, not citizen.

      • Colonial Viper 11.2.1

        The neolib think tanks have the absolute best psychologists and PR types. You just have to wonder at the efficient, destructive, invasive beauty of it all, quite like the Ebola virus.

      • Tracey 11.2.2

        Has to be MOM, cos Selling what we already own to enable tax breaks for the top earners and overseas companies wouldnt work

        SWWAOTETBFTTEAOC

    • Plan B 11.3

      It says Mom, like apple pie, no one hates their mom, it’s the american way

  12. Paul 12

    True fact

  13. Paul 13

    Something happened to that comment…sort of disappeared off my screen.

  14. fabregas4 14

    I really hate to say it but Hooton is correct. Most Kiwis hate asset sales – the 80′s bullshit did that to us all. But they don’t care enough to change their vote – evidence last election. I reckon this is because we have, in the main, become so disenfranchised that most of us think that we can’t do anything about it and vote on things that affect our day to day survival – little stuff mostly – until asset sales can be linked to widespread poverty/job loss etc then no one will care much past knowing that it is kinda a bad thing.

    • Enough is Enough 14.1

      I agree,

      This isn’t an election winner.

      The abject poverty and bullshit capitalist system we live in needs to be the 2014 focus

    • srylands 14.2

      Whether or not the Crown sells down a few SOEs is just not important. Unbelievable this obsession you people have with who owns electricity companies. Most countries have privatisation programmes that are mature – over 30 years old. Get over it.

      • Tracey 14.2.1

        Unbelievable the obsession you have with people who object to asset sales.

      • Colonial Viper 14.2.2

        Hi srylands.

        Thanks for reminding us that the theft of neoliberal privatisation has been a globally co-ordinated phenomenon.

      • KJT 14.2.3

        Yep. And the results have been just as bad worldwide.

        • srylands 14.2.3.1

          Yes I am sure Comm Bank and Telstra should have stayed in Australian public ownership. It would have been so wealth enhancing. And the current Australian Government is just kicking their predecessors for selling Qantas. They would really love that headache to manage.

          You do realise that it was the Australian Labor Party that was the chief driver of privatisation in that country?

          Anyway it is a battle you have lost. In 10 years the NZ Government will have nothing left to sell. New Zealand Post is a dog. Kiwibank is a dog. Met Service doesn’t matter. Genesis is about to go. Landcorp will be sold by National in 2021. Solid Energy will either go broke or recover and be sold in 2021. Crown Fibre Holdings will be maintained. KiwiRail is a dog. TVNZ had value but will end up a dog.

          So the next privatisation round (for which we will need to wait until after the next Labour Government) will be:

          - 100% of the MOMs
          - Landcorp

          The rest will either by wound up, or remain a drain on the Crown.

          The whole thing is a battle you lost – in reality you lost it 25 years ago. Move on to things that matter. New Zealand deserves a better opposition.

          • Tracey 14.2.3.1.1

            ” Move on to things that matter.”

            Examples of which are?

            • srylands 14.2.3.1.1.1

              “Examples of which are?”

              Long term benefit dependency.

              Poor education outcomes

              High reliance on income taxes.

              High marginal tax rates.

              Poor quality roads.

              Poor regulation.

              Urban land supply.

              Local government compliance costs.

              Poor management.

              ACC costs for small business.

              Unsustainable retirement income policy.

              Shallow capital market.

              Poor savings rates.

              Minimum wage too high.

              Finishing multilateral free trade efforts.

              Complete all regulatory harmonisation with Australia.

              High levels of wasteful public spending – e.g interest free student loans.

              .. I could go on but you get the picture.

              • McFlock

                myth
                national’s fault
                not a problem
                a problem that they’re not higher
                less trucks would help
                not enough regulation
                discourage profiteering developers – national housing expansion
                not a problem
                make management training mandatory for private sector employers of >5 staff
                up the cullen fund
                not a problem
                increase incomes so more people have disposable readies to save
                on the contrary, far too low
                I agree – cancel them all
                no, because we’re not a continent-sized desert.
                that’s not spending, it’s a paltry investment in our future GDP.

                • srylands

                  You are an example of the problem.

                  • Tracey

                    as are you

                  • McFlock

                    you base that on categorical assertions that are not replicated or even replicatable.

                    Your religious dogmatism is part of the problem

                    • Rogue Trooper

                      I’ll just reply here so I’m free to go and learn some more magic tricks. :-D
                      That reply regarding “adept” was beautifully put, even looked it up old school.
                      When you know the model you are working on you need less tools.
                      The benefits to me from a paper in Cognitive Psychology, apart from adopting that system of models to satisfy, was the concepts of ‘networking’ and ‘parallel-processing’.
                      Yet, you know, information-processing models abound, ‘modules’ yadda yadda.

                      Whereas, fMRI and related-imaging reveals real-time support for my preference for a ‘wave’ model, involving NT’s, Hormones, Glia, Neurons etc in sympathy; The very waves the more adept in their fields manipulate consciously, personally, or otherwise.

                  • Colonial Viper

                    You are an example of the problem.

                    Ahhhhh the natural drift into neo-fascism/feudalism.

              • Tracey

                Thanks for the chuckle srylands

          • greywarbler 14.2.3.1.2

            You do realise that it was the Australian Labor Party that was the chief driver of privatisation in that country?

            Srylands you do realise the hegemonic pressure of free markets neo liberal economic thinking and big business propaganda has a great effect on the voting public and of course the funding of political parties is always a concern, and then there are the lobbyists offering sweet deals that will sound good to the guileless voters. Who actually often think they are smart if they are in a business-type situation such as contractors, but who are really just wage workers who provide their own resources.

            • Tracey 14.2.3.1.2.1

              Remember srylands thinks that pro and anti assets is about whether you re in the labour or Nact “team”. he struggles to understand anything much deeper than that.

      • lprent 14.2.4

        We have had 30 year old asset sales as well. They mostly failed because they provided a way for private companies to take monopoly profits while running down the infrastructure that the rest of the economy required.

        Why do you think that there is no frigging interest in having more dumbarse asset sales with no economic validity?

        • srylands 14.2.4.1

          “Why do you think that there is no frigging interest in having more dumbarse asset sales with no economic validity?”

          Because a majority of people are stupid.

          • Tracey 14.2.4.1.1

            a majority voted for national and act. Which party did you support srylands?

          • McFlock 14.2.4.1.2

            Funny, contempt for democracy is the criticism you fuckers are supposed to make about socialists, not the other way around.

            As if you’re really so awesome that you wouldn’t be in the loading dock of the soylent green factories that your deranged religion will feed us with.

            • Tracey 14.2.4.1.2.1

              remember when one of the biggest criticisms by the right of Ms Clark was her supposed contempt for the people and the notion she knew what was best for everyone else? Never is a right winger more angry than when the left make them share…

            • srylands 14.2.4.1.2.2

              “Funny, contempt for democracy is the criticism you fuckers are supposed to make about socialists, not the other way around.”

              I have no problem with democracy. When Greens/Labour win in 2014 they can stop the partial sell down, reverse it, set up new SOEs making garden gnomes or whatever.

              I do have a problem in running a country via referendum. It is mad. What would happen in 2015 if National organise a petition for a CIR that put the question : “Do you agree with the new rich prick MTR of 42%” and the referendum said “No” (which is entirely plausible). Is that how you want NZ to work?

              Referenda should be binding and they should be confined to questions like changing the constitution, the electoral system, etc. Not bloody fiscal measures.

          • KJT 14.2.4.1.3

            The fact that the majority oppose further asset sales, after the disaster that was the first round, proves you wrong Srylands.

            Some people learn by their mistakes.

    • Tracey 14.3

      Do you know where I can find a list of the public assets that have been bought from the proceeds of the asset sales?

  15. Fisiani 15

    The referendum was so last week. Not one person will give a jot about it by election time. Employment is growing and the economy is booming. National are currently polling 45-48% and by election time should be over 50%. Add in Conservatives currently 5.7% on Ipredict and UF and MP and that is a stable government of 60%+.

  16. DS 16

    Asset sales have never been popular (IIRC there was a poll done during the sale of Telecom that showed Nat voters hated it as much as Labour voters). Because of this, the neoliberal Right has put much energy into trying to make it a better sell…

    - Calling it “mixed ownership model”, rather than privatisation. The name even evokes the old “mixed economy”.
    - Referring to “Mum and Dad investors”. Who (insofar as they exist) promptly onsell the shares to big overseas concerns.
    - Using the fawning media to talk about using this to raise revenue. Renationalising “means fewer hip operations”. Never mind that privatisation is sacrificing long-term revenue for a short-term one-off.
    - Discredit the referendum. Now I’m not a fan of CIRs myself, but they’re the system we have. If the Government considers them a waste of money, abolish them. Don’t complain that the avenue of a CIR exists.

    As pointed out up thread though, privatisation is no longer enough to actually get people to change their vote. It’s no longer an issue over which people feel they have any power.

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    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • Labour will facilitate regional Māori economic development agencies
    The next Labour Government will facilitate the creation of regional Māori economic development groups lead by iwi and hapū to work in partnership with business and public agencies as part of its Māori Development policy. “Labour is committed to working towards...
    Labour | 16-08
  • PRIME MINISTER’S DENIAL AT ODDS WITH NATIONAL PARTY STATEMENT
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has today released an email from the General Manager of the National Party that directly contradicts recent statements from the Prime Minister in relation to the 2011 breaches of Labour Party website databases. In his stand-up...
    Labour | 16-08
  • Cunliffe beats Key in First Leaders debate
    I watched the First Leaders debate at the Green Party #GreenRoomNZ, they were very kind to include me and the atmosphere was great. The debate was a resounding victory to Cunliffe. He won Round 1, Round 2, Round 3 and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • LIVE STREAM: The Green Room Leader’s Debate from 6:30pm
    The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding to the debate live, along with comment from thought leaders and commentators. ‘The Green Room’ 6pm – 8.30pm...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • How many taxpayer funded staff does John Key need to prepare for a Leaders ...
    John Key is currently at the Auckland Stamford Plaza with 40 staff, 4 undercover police cars and an entire floor booked out in preparation for tonights Leader’s debate. Isn’t 40 staff including coms, flown up to Auckland for a debate...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • A brief word on National Party Rodney MP, Mark Mitchell
    MP considers legal action against Nicky HagerThe National MP says he is considering taking a defamation case after the September 20 election.“Someone needs to be held accountable,” he said. Oh really champ? Brothers and sisters, there is a long way...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Greens advertise on Whaleoil – but not on The Daily Blog?
    PaknSave have shown ethical compass and blocked adverts on Whaleoil, yet the Greens are advertising on Whaleoil, and not The Daily Blog? I would imagine there are far more potential Green voters on The Daily Blog then ever are on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • It’s about the stupid economy stupid
    In focus group meetings, the sleepy hobbits of NZ by a staggering amount all believe that National are better economic stewards of the country than Labour, that’s why, instead of answering questions about blackmailing MPs, trawling brothels for dirt on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour Policy vs National Policy
    John Key’s favourite defence spin at the moment is people want to talk about policy and not hear answers on the ethics of trawling brothels, why Slater was given SIS information, blackmailing MPs into standing down, rigging candidate elections and hacking...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • The Green Room live streamed on TDB 6.30pm tonight for First Leaders debate
    The ‘Green Room’ will stream 6.pm tonight on The Daily Blog during the TV One leaders’ debate.Use #GreenRoomNZ to join in. The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Manukau East – the next Coalition in action
    A couple of weeks ago I had the pleasure of opening Voice Up – a youth forum run by young people in Otara. I had been asked as Chair of the Local Board to set the scene, encouraging young people...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – The Big Bang Theory
    It’s a shame that it took a brain injury for me to start seeing things with such startling clarity. The realisation that lawyering, fishing, parenting, selling cars and racing yachts had common themes was stunning. Not perhaps as stunning as...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how much Key aro...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls
    MIL OSI – Source: Selwyn Manning – Analysis Headline: 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls 5AA Australia: On this week’s Across the Ditch bulletin on 5AA Australia, host Peter Godfery and Selwyn Manning discuss the aftermath...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • La’o Hamutuk calls for inquiry into Timor GAP ‘mismanagement’ of oil ...
    The Suai project on the South Coast … “liberated” land but confused communities.Photo: La’o Hamutuk David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. AN INDEPENDENT Timor-Leste development and social justice agency has called for an inquiry into the Timor GAP corporation...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • What Is Nicky Hager?
    WHAT WILL HISTORY MAKE of Nicky Hager? That slight, perpetually boyish, journalist who descends periodically, like the admonishing angel in a medieval mystery play, to trouble our consciences and wreak merry havoc with the orderly conduct of our political affairs....
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Can anyone in msm explain how after Dirty Politics that they all got played...
    Would you not think, that after reading Dirty Politics, that our mainstream media wouldn’t allow themselves to get tricked and played again by the VERY SAME discredited pundits? The best new feature on Radio NZ is their ‘Blog Watch’ and their...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Crusher Collins caught out lying about Privacy Commissioner – is this her...
    Crusher angry. Crusher smash own career. Crusher more angry. You would think that after getting outed as such a nasty, vicious piece of work in Dirty Politics, that Crusher would be scrambling to dial back the lies and manipulations. Apparently...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Cunliffe vs Key – first leaders debate
    This is your election ‘moderator’ – just one more reason an incoming Government need to sack everyone at TVNZ and reform it into an actual public broadcaster. The first leaders debate happens this Thursday, 7pm on TV One. I have...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – An Old and Honourable Profession
      When Dirty Politics started to reference an ex-prostitute I began to get antsy. My first response was “come on Nicky, we decriminalised in 2003. Its sex worker.” My second response was “Ah oh. Who was it and did they...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Bought and paid for: the dirty politics of climate denial
    Has climate denial in New Zealand been bought and paid for by corporate interests? We already know that the ACT Party’s routine denial is closely linked to the financial support the party receives from wealthy free market fundamentalist Alan Gibbs,...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • If the msm read The Daily Blog, THIS wouldn’t be a surprise – explainin...
    Yawn. How embarrassing for Hamish Rutherford and Andrea Vance, their breathless article today suggests that the idea of Labour and NZ First cutting a  deal over the buy back of assets  is some how new news. Silly mainstream media  journalists. If...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker??
    Yesterday I did some calculations to find out what tax John Key pays compared to a worker on the minimum wage. And I put out this media release for the Mana Movement: MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Hip hop death threats – the selective outrage of our media
    PM death threat in hip hop songAn Auckland hip-hop crew slammed for releasing a song with lyrics that apparently include a threat to kill Prime Minister John Key are urging young people to enrol to vote. Kill The PM, by...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes
    Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this!
    I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this weird spear tackle from behind by his own company. I was listening to this interview at the time, and the awkwardness of it must be the worst...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Is it weird Radio NZ ban me yet still have….
    Is it weird Radio NZ ban me for life because I criticised the Prime Minister yet still have Matthew Hooton, David Farrar and Jordan Williams, 3 of the main protagonists revealed in Dirty Politics as part of their ongoing political...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Christchurch GCSB meeting – why mass surveillance matters in 2014
    This is the video for last weeks GCSB meeting in Christchurch. Don’t forget Nicky Hager’s public meeting Wednesday night in Auckland, TDB will live stream the event in the interests of our democracy. Broadcast starts 7.30pm here on TDB....
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Assange, Greenwald to appear at Town Hall meeting? + KDC is not the hacker ...
    Wikileaks founder and the engineer of revealing some of the largest abuses of power in the modern era, Julian Assange, is rumoured to be appearing at the September 15th Town Hall meeting. Assange would join award winning investigative journalist Glen...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Why Paula Bennett will be the next leader and Hooton throws the Prime Minis...
    I don’t think the public have any idea of the behind the scenes meltdown now occurring within National. There are plenty of decent right wingers who all have ethical standards who have looked at what their leaders have been doing and...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – That Awkward Feeling When Your Campaign Goe...
    Urgh. It’s a thankless and nearly impossible task politically firefighting some days. Somebody (who isn’t you, but who’s in your care, or whom you’ve got a close professional relationship with) does or says something stupid; somebody from the Media’s there...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Dirty politics goes viral
    Join the latest social networking craze this election that every Dog Cat and Jabba is putting on their facebook pages.     Joe Trinder – Ngāti Awa Born and born in Ōtepoti Ōtākou, Ex RNZN he is an Information Technology...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Blogwatch: An open letter to David Farrar: Please, be that guy
    Dear David, In light of  Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics, you wrote a blog entitled ‘Some changes on Kiwiblog’ and you suggested it was time to tighten up ship on your website, saying “I want to improve trust in myself,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • What The Hell Was That! Reflections on the media’s coverage of the Intern...
    WHAT, EXACTLY, DO WE KNOW about the confrontation outside Internet-Mana’s campaign launch? Well, we know the news media was there in force. We also know Internet-Mana’s media person, Pam Corkery, blew her stack. We know that Corkery’s outburst led the...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • NZ First candidate – homophobic, bennie bashing anti-intellectual clown
    Oh God, apart from Ron Mark, Tracey Martin, Curwen Rolinson and Winston before midday, the woeful cavalcade of political circus freaks NZ First seem to attract has picked up another hitchhiker. This time Epsom candidate Cliff Lyon who said this about Labour… “If...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Nicky Hager Public Meeting LIVESTREAM on The Daily Blog 7.30pm Wednesday 27...
    As part of our commitment to the 2014 Election debate, The Daily Blog will Livestream the Nicky Hager public meeting in Auckland, 7.30pm live from the Mt Eden War Memorial this Wednesday on this site. Doors open at 7pm. It...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Opening Night. It’s like an opera!
    On Saturday night just gone, we collectively experienced one of the premier panegyrys of political pageantry in our three yearly electoral cycle. For one glorious weekend evening every three years, it’s not the All Blacks or some Super 14 team, or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Unions – what ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Timor-Leste’s Parliament handed ‘humiliating’ defeat over harsh media...
    East Timorese journalists raise their hands to approve the Timor-Leste JournalistCode of Ethics in October 2013. Photo: Tempo Semanal/Cafe Pacific   David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. PACIFIC SCOOP reported this week that East Timor’s Appeal Court had scrapped...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • THIS is why we need a public broadcaster!
    The richest 20% of us in NZ own 70% of the wealth, with 18% in the hands of the second richest quintile, and 10% in the hands of the middle quintile. Just 2 per cent was owned by people in...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • A vote for Key is a vote for this
    A vote for Key is a vote for this...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Why the Secret Intelligence Service feeding Cameron Slater information is s...
    Folks, it doesn’t matter if you are Right or Left, the issue of the Secret Intelligence Service being forced to feed a far right hate speech merchant like Cameron Slater with sensitive information is an ‘us’ issue. The SIS are...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • How lost and irrelevant are ACT?
    So ACT had it’s ‘launch’. Well, what passes as an ACT launch these days. Lot’s of anorak’s with that 1000 yard star and dreams of a Milton Friedman Free Market dancing behind their eyelids all crammed into a room small...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Party rowing advert aimed at Gen Xers
    Unkind wags such as myself would suggest that if the above were a real representation of National, it would look more like this…   National know they have the rural mob and the angry provincial vote locked in, with their...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Housing propaganda – McGehan Close Revisited
    .   . Housing has become a major, defining issue in New Zealand. We have critical shortages and escalating prices in  in the main centres and falling house values in the regions. The National government has addressed the supply &...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • The boldest, most creative and dynamic policy on employment for two generat...
    If you watched TV news last night you could be forgiven for thinking that a circus was on when Internet MANA launched its election campaign today. The reporting was abysmal but I won’t rehash it here because it’s been described...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Call for Aaron Bhatnagar’s resignation from govt body
    .   . One of the many sordid “bit”-players in Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“, and one of Cameron Slater’s inner-cabal, is businessman, National Party card-carrying cadre,  and former city councillor, Aaron Bhatnagar; . . In 2008, Bhatnagar was caught...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Internet MANA announce free tertiary education & full employment – me...
    Internet MANA launch their campaign after an extraordinary road tour and after gaining 4% in the Colmar Brunton Poll, today should have been the start point for a momentous occasion  in progressive political history. It was, but sadly most won’t...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Privilege denies true representation of disability rights
    The human right of people with disabilities in New Zealand has come back into the spotlight by the Human Rights Commission. The report named ‘Making Disability Rights Real’ highlights some of the main issues as being adequate data collection, accessibility,...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Election TV campaign ads – Opening Night
    . .The infamous National Party ‘Dancing Cossacks’ Attack advert  NZ, 23 August -  The election campaign “kicked off” on Saturday evening, with a one hour “televisual feast”. Party advertisements were broadcast for National, Labour, Greens, NZ First, United Future/Peter Dunne,...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Blogging vs Journalism vs Politics – The 7 latest revolting revelations
    So we now enter the most dangerous phase for National, the phase where the minutia of detail is so great now, the media have all the ammunition to keep asking questions that clearly show Key isn’t being honest in his...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • A positive story of political co-operation!
    .   . Wellington, NZ, 23 August - The following is a true story and shows how the natural inclination of the rank-and-file of our main left-wing parties is to work together… I’ve been in contact with both the Green...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Labour’s environment policy welcomed
    The independent conservation organisation Forest & Bird says that overall the Labour Party’s newly released environment policy would go a long way towards protecting New Zealand’s natural heritage....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • National: Not our Future Marches across New Zealand
    Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government's track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin to oppose National's...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Tune in to tonight’s debate from 7pm
    The countdown is on! You can watch the first leader’s debate for 2014 tonight, 7pm, on TV One ....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Gamblefree Day 1 September
    It's Gamblefree Day this Monday 1 September, the national awareness day for problem gambling in New Zealand. While traditionally celebrated on the first day of September, many events and activities are held both before and after this day to raise...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Success through captioning should be a given as a Right
    Success through captioning should be a given as a Right per the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Alcohol Marketing Committee Questions Government’s Motives
    An Independent Expert Committee on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (IECAAS) has been formed out of concern amongst alcohol and public health researchers about the government’s Ministerial Forum on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (MFAAS)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • How Much Higher Can Auckland Prices Go?
    National's plan to liberalise the use of Kiwisaver funds and its proposal to raise ts cheap "Welcome Home" loan thresholds to help buyers purchase a new home has been welcomed by home building companies but attacked as a "welfare scheme...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • OPC submission period extended
    We have extended the submission period for the modified reassessment of a bee control affecting five organophosphate and carbamate insecticides (APP202142)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Vinay Deobhakta struck off roll of barristers and solicitors
    The New Zealand Lawyers and Conveyancers Disciplinary Tribunal has ordered former Tauranga lawyer Vinay Deobhakta to be struck off the roll of barristers and solicitors....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Major parties to front up for Climate Voter election debate
    New Zealand’s main political parties will take part in ‘The Great Climate Voter Debate’ on September 3....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Family violence… too big to be ignored
    As Annah Stretton gears up for her New Zealand Fashion Week show on Thursday she is utilizing her spotlight to help change the face of family violence in this country saying “the problem is far too big to ignore”....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Candidate’s SOS to northern Maori voters: Save our seats!
    (Extract from address by Rev Te Hira Paenga to Kura Hourua Maori Political Leaders hui, in Whangarei this evening)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Mary O’Neill to Stand for the Alliance in Napier
    The Alliance Party has confirmed Mary O’Neill as the Alliance candidate in the Napier Electorate for the 2014 election....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • TONIGHT [28/8/14]: The Great Political Comedy Debate
    It's a night for debating. You could stay home frowning at tonight's Leaders debate, or laugh it up with us at BATS!...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Cunliffe against personal responsibility over billboards
    The accusation by David Cunliffe that the Conservative Party is subscribing to a surveillance society by protecting its billboards via the use of motion sensor cameras reveals an anti-personal responsibility position by the about-to-be-retired Leader...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Groundbreaking health and climate conference
    The World Health Organization (WHO) is holding its first conference on climate change and health at its headquarters in Geneva this week, with New Zealand health experts in attendance....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te Tai Tokerau Party
    Last night at the Leadership Academy of Company A debate Clinton Dearlove announced the creation of a new political party supported by Whanau and Hapu....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Significant fallout from Dirty Politics allegations
    Dirty politics ... costing National up to 3.8% of its pre-publication support Large numbers of New Zealanders are aware of and talking about the issues raised as a result of the publication of Nicky Hager’s book, Dirty Politics, according to...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Colin Craig is “deluded and dangerous” – Act
    “Colin Craig is proposing a radical transformation of our constitution. The Conservatives are proposing to overthrow of one hundred and fifty odd years of parliamentary democracy and replace it with binding referenda” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • WoF law will evict the poor and students from their houses
    The Green warrant of fitness law will evict the poor and students from their houses, if they’re lucky enough to find a place to rent in the first place...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Police response to IPCA report on ‘out of control’ parties
    Police accept today's Independent Police Conduct Authority report recommendations regarding the handling of 'out of control' parties and has already improved its policies and practices for managing these complex and sometimes violent situations....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Review of Police handling of ‘out of control’ parties
    An Independent Police Conduct Authority review has found that Police are working to ensure officers called upon to deal with out of control gatherings in future are better trained to deal with the situations they may face....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Wynyard and NZ Police Announce Ground-breaking Partnership
    Auckland, 28 August 2014 - Wynyard Group, a market leader in advanced crime analytics software and services, today welcomed the New Zealand Police as a long term partner in its Crime Science Research Institute (CSRI)....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Polls confirm dirty politics out and the Conservatives in
    The latest 3News-Reid Research poll has the Conservative Party on 4.6 per cent which means they are virtually on their way to Parliament. Garth McVicar, the Conservative Party candidate for the Napier electorate believes the polls are proof that the...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Toke the Vote 2014: NORML’s guide to NZ cannabis policies
    NORML’s policy, renewed at our recent national conference , is to encourage supporters to vote for parties and candidates who will work to reform our cannabis laws....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Internet Mana List Embodies Modern Aotearoa
    An impressive mix of personal and professional skills, cultural backgrounds and ages marks the release of Internet MANA’s combined party list. “Our list highlights the calibre of talent woven throughout Internet MANA,” said leader Hone Harawira....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • The Dirty Politics Fallout
    Tonight’s 3News-Reid Research poll shows that the Conservative Party is on the verge of making it into the next Parliament, even without an electorate deal with National. The poll, conducted in the week following the release of Nicky Hager’s...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te reo Māori trending at New Zealand Fashion Week
    Language and fashion express culture and identity so it’s fitting for the Māori Party to launch its te reo Māori policy at New Zealand’s premiere fashion event in Auckland....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Party And Candidate Lists for 2014 Election Released
    The Electoral Commission has released the nominations for the 2014 General Election, with 15 registered political parties and 554 candidates contesting the election....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Take Steps Against Child Poverty with Us!
    TAKE STEPS AGAINST CHILD POVERTY WITH US! Britomart to Aotea Square, Auckland, 11am, Saturday 6 Sept Music * Interactive Art * Stilt Walkers * Great Speakers * Plus more!...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Leading politicians to debate NZ’s role in the world
    Have you ever wondered where New Zealand stands when it comes to issues beyond our borders? Join Amnesty International's North Shore Group on Monday 1 September for a lively cross party debate and the chance to find out the answer...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Political Debate on Family Violence – Livestream
    The Dunedin Collaboration Against Family Violence is happy to announce the upcoming political debate on Family Violence chaired by Professor Nicola Atwool of the University of Otago. Family Violence is a huge problem in our community and we invite representatives...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Politicians ignore 20% of New Zealanders
    Despite 20% of New Zealanders supporting it, none of the parties currently represented in Parliament endorse the legalisation of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Company tax rates
    The Op Ed pages of the left-leaning New York Times are full of articles by economists supporting proposals to dramatically lower Company Taxes. These economists are urging the United States to lower company taxes and point to Canada where the...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Stephen Dudley Case: No appeal or review of discharge
    On 8 August 2014 Crown Law received a request from the office of the Auckland Crown Solicitor to consider a Crown appeal against the discharge without conviction entered in respect of M in the High Court at Auckland on 7...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Dudley Family Statement
    “We are utterly devastated at the news regarding the law not allowing for this unjustified discharge without conviction to be appealed....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Chief Judge: Chief Sized Offender Bias
    “Justice by name, not by nature” states Ruth Money Sensible Sentencing Trust National Spokesperson, of Justice Helen Winkelmann’s decision to discharge without conviction the offender charged with the fatal attack on 15 year old schoolboy Stephen...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Confusion over BPS Reducing Crime and Reoffending Results
    A survey has revealed widespread confusion – even amongst professionals in the justice sector – about what the government’s reducing crime and reoffending progress reports actually mean....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Commission condemns violent attack on Gay Wellingtonians
    The Human Rights Commission has condemned a violent attack on staff and patrons at a gay bar in central Wellington last Friday. GayNZ reported that the alleged attackers were abusive and violent when they realised the bar and the people...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • One down, 12 to go says Community Housing Aotearoa
    The Waimahia Inlet is a step in the right direction for community housing to deliver 20% of New Zealand’s social and affordable housing by 2020, says Community Housing Aotearoa. CHA Director Scott Figenshow says the sector has been set a...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Research considering changes to pedestrian crossing laws
    A University of Canterbury research project has been considering the costs and benefits of a range of potential changes to pedestrian crossing laws that would bring New Zealand in line with the rest of the world....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Dairy farmers and consumers at risk from unapproved GE Grain
    The Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) must immediately test all maize and soy for presence of unapproved GE lines coming from the Americas....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • NZ on Air Refuse to Condemn “Kill the PM” Song
    New Zealand On Air has refused to condemn @peace’s 'Kill the PM' song, and will not provide any assurance that no further taxpayer money will be used to support groups that promote violence and political hate. Earlier today the Taxpayers’...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • iPredict Ltd 2014 Election Update #32
    The combined wisdom of iPredict’s 8000 registered traders suggests National has begun a recovery after its prospects crashed last week following the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics . The governing party’s forecast party vote is back...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Juicy carrot for prisoners alarming suggestion – McVicar
    The Conservative Party Justice Spokesman, Garth McVicar says the public will be alarmed to learn that the only tool the Corrections Department has available to get prisoners to behave is to offer them a juicy carrot....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Panel: Fiji’s Return to Democracy
    Fiji’s post-coup elections and their impact in the Pacific o What is the role of the media in the Elections? o How might New Zealand help Fiji on its return to democracy?...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Cross-party consensus on climate change critical
    Senior NZ health professionals welcome recent policy announcements on climate change by major political parties, saying cross-party consensus is critical to address this leading health issue....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Minister of Transport to Attend Election Debate Tomorrow
    Organisers of tomorrow night's transport debate in Auckland are delighted that Minister of Transport Hon. Gerry Brownlee will now be attending....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Society Applauds Proposed NZ-Wide Risk Assessment
    The Wise Response Society is heartened to see that Labour' just released Climate Change policy includes formal support for the Society's call for a New Zealand-wide Risk Assessment. The Green Party has also formally acknowledged support for the Wise...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Iwi Leaders welcome Labour policy on climate change
    Labour’s policy to stamp out price – gouging by big polluters that has cost New Zealand tax-payers $1.4 billion over the last 3 years and especially impacted low – income Maori households has been welcomed by Dr. Apirana Mahuika, Chairman...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
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