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		<title>By: libertyscott</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88256</link>
		<dc:creator>libertyscott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 23:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes funny when Labour passed a law allowing tolling of new roads, had Transit do a major study into what projects could be tolled (oh yes it wasn&#039;t publicly released, but the list comprises quite a few projects), undertook ARPES (Auckland Road Pricing Evaluation Study) and a follow up study.

Yes - so apparently this blog thinks it is better for people to pay the same to use empty roads offpeak as to use congested roads at peak times.  Tired old Soviet style road management, that even Ken Livingstone rejected in London, Stockholm has rejected, as has Ireland, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Japan and South Korea, all with thriving toll road networks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes funny when Labour passed a law allowing tolling of new roads, had Transit do a major study into what projects could be tolled (oh yes it wasn&#8217;t publicly released, but the list comprises quite a few projects), undertook ARPES (Auckland Road Pricing Evaluation Study) and a follow up study.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; so apparently this blog thinks it is better for people to pay the same to use empty roads offpeak as to use congested roads at peak times.  Tired old Soviet style road management, that even Ken Livingstone rejected in London, Stockholm has rejected, as has Ireland, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Japan and South Korea, all with thriving toll road networks.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88235</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toad,

There is an old saying that i think started in the construction industry, but applies to lots of other areas as well (especially public transport):

Fast, Cheap, Good... pick any two.</description>
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<p>There is an old saying that i think started in the construction industry, but applies to lots of other areas as well (especially public transport):</p>
<p>Fast, Cheap, Good&#8230; pick any two.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88109</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BeShakey said: &lt;i&gt;...Surely it would be necessary to introduce a system whereby transport users pay an amount that is a more accurate representation of the costs of their choices...&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed, BeShakey.  But it is necessary to give people some real choices first.  If their only realistic choice is to drive (because the trip takes 160m by public transport as opposed to 40m to drive) then there really isn&#039;t any realistic choice anyway.

Travel time is work and leisure time wasted - unless you are unemployed (but few are now), in which case you&#039;ll be headed off to job prospects overseas.

But for those of us who have to travel for work, there should be fast and cheap public transport into Auckland Airport.  My own experince is that I have to leave home 90m before check-in time if I use public transport. By car I can do it in 30m.

That is ridiculous, and sends all the wrong signals to people who have to commute inter-city or internationally in their employment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BeShakey said: <i>&#8230;Surely it would be necessary to introduce a system whereby transport users pay an amount that is a more accurate representation of the costs of their choices&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Indeed, BeShakey.  But it is necessary to give people some real choices first.  If their only realistic choice is to drive (because the trip takes 160m by public transport as opposed to 40m to drive) then there really isn&#8217;t any realistic choice anyway.</p>
<p>Travel time is work and leisure time wasted &#8211; unless you are unemployed (but few are now), in which case you&#8217;ll be headed off to job prospects overseas.</p>
<p>But for those of us who have to travel for work, there should be fast and cheap public transport into Auckland Airport.  My own experince is that I have to leave home 90m before check-in time if I use public transport. By car I can do it in 30m.</p>
<p>That is ridiculous, and sends all the wrong signals to people who have to commute inter-city or internationally in their employment.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88097</link>
		<dc:creator>G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funniest thing about this is, people think traveling on the roads under Labour is free.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funniest thing about this is, people think traveling on the roads under Labour is free.  <img src='http://thestandard.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88086</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The marketing tagline should be &lt;b&gt;&quot;National Monopoly... because &#039;Labour Monopoly&#039; was just too easy&quot;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The marketing tagline should be <b>&#8220;National Monopoly&#8230; because &#8216;Labour Monopoly&#8217; was just too easy&#8221;</b></p>
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		<title>By: Daveski</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88065</link>
		<dc:creator>Daveski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came, I saw, I laughed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came, I saw, I laughed</p>
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		<title>By: BeShakey</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88064</link>
		<dc:creator>BeShakey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toad - what about suppressed demand and/or the success of public transport making driving a more attractive option?  Surely it would be necessary to introduce a system whereby transport users pay an amount that is a more accurate representation of the costs of their choices (with the appropriate checks and balances, and support (if appropriate) where hardship would be unavoidable etc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toad &#8211; what about suppressed demand and/or the success of public transport making driving a more attractive option?  Surely it would be necessary to introduce a system whereby transport users pay an amount that is a more accurate representation of the costs of their choices (with the appropriate checks and balances, and support (if appropriate) where hardship would be unavoidable etc)</p>
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		<title>By: monkey-boy</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88060</link>
		<dc:creator>monkey-boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t own a pair, of sequiturs. I just saw them off, or snap them back by hand. But then, I don&#039;t have a libido either. I just wash my ass in the sink like normal people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t own a pair, of sequiturs. I just saw them off, or snap them back by hand. But then, I don&#8217;t have a libido either. I just wash my ass in the sink like normal people.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Collins</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88043</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s actually quite funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s actually quite funny.</p>
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		<title>By: randal</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88034</link>
		<dc:creator>randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you being surprised and a moot question is a non sequitur and completely meaningless isn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you being surprised and a moot question is a non sequitur and completely meaningless isn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: toad</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88033</link>
		<dc:creator>toad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right bill brown.

Extend the Onehunga rail spur line that is being recommissioned both North-west to join the Western line at Avondale, and South to the airport and then East to join the Southern line at Puhinui and you&#039;ll take so much traffic off the roads that there would be no demand for the Waterview connection either.  Most people who drive that route do so only because it takes forever to do it by public transport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right bill brown.</p>
<p>Extend the Onehunga rail spur line that is being recommissioned both North-west to join the Western line at Avondale, and South to the airport and then East to join the Southern line at Puhinui and you&#8217;ll take so much traffic off the roads that there would be no demand for the Waterview connection either.  Most people who drive that route do so only because it takes forever to do it by public transport.</p>
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		<title>By: bill brown</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88026</link>
		<dc:creator>bill brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be surprised if the Greens support the Waterview connection at all - so isn&#039;t the question moot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be surprised if the Greens support the Waterview connection at all &#8211; so isn&#8217;t the question moot?</p>
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		<title>By: Gustavo Trellis</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88024</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustavo Trellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the Waterview connection won&#039;t be tolled then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the Waterview connection won&#8217;t be tolled then?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Pilott</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/national-monopoly/comment-page-1/#comment-88013</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Pilott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess that makes it Hide, top right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess that makes it Hide, top right!</p>
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