Comments on: National on free speech

By: Bullies at The Standard 2.01

Bullies at The Standard 2.01 — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:37:13 +0000

[...] threats were leveled against us for using John Key’s image for satirical purposes last year and who [...]

By: bradv8

bradv8 — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:08:11 +0000

all gay pinko commi labour party supporters are pissed off how high national is in the opinion polls,we are going win this election , and yes we will give tax cuts and save new zealand from political correctness,as a country we need to reform the labour market bring in a work place flexibility act ,get the government out of the economy leave the balance to the magic of the market get back on track 9 years of labour has been a disaster, asset sales are good they bring much needed investment and expertise just look at telecom electricity reforms. privitsation of acc will bring in competition greater profits.to control inflation we need unemployment to keep inflation under control.we will get money for tax cuts by cutting kiwi saver.and other welfare new zealand stand on your own two feet.

[lprent: That aroused my troll killing instincts. However it was just a lack of capitals, punctuation, typos and appalling sentence structure. I really can't ban someone for having bad written english despite what Billy and the 'sod think.]

By: DPF, QC? 2 « KiwiBlogBlog

DPF, QC? 2 « KiwiBlogBlog — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:25:24 +0000

[...] satire.Ãƒâ€š But, then, National seems to be very confused about copyright law in general: first, they threatened The Standard over their use of an image of John Key, a public image of a public figure on which [...]

By: Weak watchdog scores own goal « KiwiBlogBlog

Weak watchdog scores own goal « KiwiBlogBlog — Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:18:48 +0000

[...] they refer to what might be claimed to be Scientologists IP – WTF, isn’t this precisely what HQ attempted to do to the Standard only this [...]

By: Andrew

Andrew — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:08:15 +0000

Unfortunately for Key – he is a public figure. There isnt a lot he can do about people using pictures of him anymore.

By: “His” likeness « Thesproutandthebean

“His” likeness « Thesproutandthebean — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:51:35 +0000

[...] wanting to attract the same kind of legal bullying the Standard has suffered by “a particular New Zealand political party”, which is wildly hypocritical [...]

By: National Insider

National Insider — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:11:14 +0000

Oops just saw the other posts, and that wasn’t quite right. Got my John Carter and my John Slater confused.

Anyway, yep it’s true. What an embarrassment.

By: National Insider

National Insider — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 06:04:45 +0000

You’d think given all the bad press given to Bill English’s son recently, that the son of a National MP would be a little more careful with their choice of pictures and language.

Sigh…..

By: Whaleoil

Whaleoil — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:54:45 +0000

[chicken sounds]Pussy, then again i suppose 12 year olds aren’t allowed in pubs. Perhaps we could have lunch at Maccas’s, bring yo mammy or your union thug mates, the more the merrier, if that would suit.[/chicken sounds]

By: Nih

Nih — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:13:51 +0000

John Slater, former National party president, so I understand. Whale posted a picture of his dad with GW Bush a while back.

I hate to ask, but was it photoshopped?

By: Benodic

Benodic — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:02:58 +0000

John Slater, former National party president, so I understand. Whale posted a picture of his dad with GW Bush a while back.

By: Pascal's bookie

Pascal's bookie — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:02:16 +0000

Amk
“From your post above am I to assume that anyone who does something you find disagreeable, nay disgusting, is thereafter consigned to the trash can and deemed incapable of saying anything of value, or, that anything they say is an opportunity to attack previous unrelated actions?”

No. It’s all covered in my post. It’s the bit about conclusion vs premiss.

In your example of what you claim is the woeful treatment handed out to wailywhaley, you forgot to include his snark in your quote from him. This kind of colours the argument a little. Also you neglected to include the actual attacks made against him. Indeed there were attacks, the first one at the end coming in the very next comment. However the first half of that comment replies to whaleoils point.

The “attack”, as you would have it, is a reference to the fact that, (and I’m astounded that you failed to pick up on this rather subtle point), whaleoil himself uses images he does not own in photoshop gags!! quelle horreur, pass the smelling salts, etc.

Do you think, with your highly tuned hypocracy meter that this has any relevance to his comment?

Seeing you are so very concerned about the quality of debate and the standard of the Standard, how about you address the issue raised directly by the post.

Do you think it’s ok for Key’s tax payer staff to be shooting off legally dubious requests for bloggers to shut the fuck up?

By: Nih

Nih — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:31:24 +0000

So, who is Whaleoil’s dad?

By: Robinsod

Robinsod — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:21:24 +0000

Whale – like I said on your blog – I’m sorry I can’t distinguish one bigot from another. As for meeting you? It was pointed out to me that you’d just use it as an opportunity to out me and as I’ve had several serious physical threats made against me by your loony rightwing mates that’s probably not a good idea. Which is a shame as a few lefty folk wanted to video the meeting for youtube posterity…

By: ak

ak — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:16:48 +0000

Good God. Unbelieveable. A blind man could see that a line has definitely been crossed here. And this is the son of a prominent National party figure? burt and co: have a good hard look at the company you keep – and do something about it. If there are not repercussions from this I’ll be very surprised.