National vs Auckland

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1. RedLogix 1

   23 May 2011 at 7:36 am

   National’s obsession with cars is all about self-identity. Identity as the sovereign individual, the motor car being the sceptre, the sprawling McMansion on a piece of dirt in the burbs … a micro pseudo-Versailles. Everthing in this identity is about property, separateness and the elevation of self over all other considerations.

   In this world view trains and busses are despised as ‘socialist cattle-cars’, high-density apartment living is associated with urban ghettos, and any shared public utilities are treated are sneared at. Every action in their lives is towards moving away from their fellow humans, insulating and isolating themselves from the public domain.

   This is why facts mean nothing to these people. The useless holiday highway will always be more important to them than any inner city rail loop. One choice is congruent with the fanatasy car adverts where they drive at any speed they want on endless km’s of empty highway winding through their own personal paradise kingdom…the other doesn’t. They will defend their manufactured identities, even to the point where the consequences of it mean their literal death. Nothing can or will change their opinion until they can change how they think of themselves.
   • Carol 1.1

     23 May 2011 at 7:55 am

     They will defend their manufactured identities, even to the point where the consequences of it mean their literal death.

     But along the way, they can cause the death of others who are trying to use other methods of transport eg walking and cycling.

     I recently bought a bicycle, enjoy riding it and am increasingly using it for relatively short journeys close to my suburban home. I cycle to the local shops for small amounts of groceries, fruit & veg. I have cycled to one of my workplaces that is quite close to home, and am now contemplating cycling to the train station rather than driving my car and parking near the station.

     The suburban streets of Auckland are really not cycle friendly. Some of the roads are narrow, and/or made narrow by parked cars. I am no longer the fearless cycler of my younger days (I am in my early 60s). Where the roads look to scary, I do what I see many children and teenagers do, I cycle on the footpath. Actually there are usually not many people walking there. But even cycling on the footpaths can be dangerous, as many cars and big military-style vehicles drive across the footpaths to get in and out of suburban properties. These big miltary vehicles are the most scary for a cyclist.

     It would be better to put more money into dedicated cycleways, and more pedestrian-friendly walking routes, as well as continuing to upgrade the rail and bus networks.
     • Armchair Critic 1.1.1

       23 May 2011 at 8:11 am

       If you haven’t already, have a look at this post at Transport Blog, Carol. Transport planners and traffic engineers need to start thinking this way.
       • Carol 1.1.1.1

         23 May 2011 at 8:44 am

         That’s great, Thanks AC. And also the planners need to be thinking about extending that approach into the suburbs, and not just focus on the CBD and suburban shopping centres.
   • dave brown 1.2

     23 May 2011 at 11:13 am

     Right on, Crash fetishism.
2. Draco T Bastard 2

   23 May 2011 at 9:18 am

   National want sprawl because it would mean cheaper houses…

   And higher land prices for their mates who are probably looking at the growing Auckland population and thinking of all the untaxed capital gains that they could get.

   Sprawl would mean longer commutes, less efficient transport (particularly for public transport), more pollution, and far more money spent on building the schools, parks, council centres on the new far away communities.

   This is why Auckland needs to stop the sprawl now. It costs far too much to maintain necessary services (Although, with Nacts privatisation agenda, they’re probably looking at that and thinking of all the profits they could screw out of Auckland). The council really needs to be looking at encouraging high rise apartments and discouraging single level dwellings.
   • Carol 2.1

     23 May 2011 at 9:30 am

     I would love to be living closer to the CBD, but, at the moment, it’s much cheaper to rent out here in the suburbs.
3. jarbury 3

   23 May 2011 at 9:24 am

   Good post Ben, though I think you will find that National propose spending $11 billion, not $10 million on wasteful motorway projects. If Labour were smart they would start a huge ‘Vote for Auckland, Vote for Labour’ campaign.
   • James 3.1

     23 May 2011 at 5:09 pm

     Yeh a sign at the bottom of Queen St: 2 mins to the top.
4. Armchair Critic 4

   23 May 2011 at 9:26 am

   Great news that the holiday highway is indefinitely postponed, if Labour are elected. Pity Granny forgot to mention the appalling B/C ratio the project has.
   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10727420
   I’d like to see the announcement followed up with financial support for the CBD rail loop.
   I think National have the potential to come unstuck, in Auckland, over transport issues.
5. Carol 5

   23 May 2011 at 9:36 am

   I was annoyed at Peter Dunne on the Sunday TV minor parties’ debate recently. He scoffed at improving cycling provisions over roads, at a point when the debate was about the holiday highway. He said people wouldn’t be able to do their shopping on bicycles. Well, exactly how many people use a motorway to travel to do their grocery shopping? And, actually, I now do a reasonable amount of shopping on my bike. I can carry a reasonable amount while cycling, and that includes cycling up some hills with it (and I’m no spring chicken).

   I do my main weekly shop on Sundays by car. This is the day I need to drive to work because public transport is not regular enough at weekends. So I stop at the supermarket on the way home – no holiday highways are involved.
   • happynz 5.1

     23 May 2011 at 9:57 am

     I caught Peter Dunne’s smarmy car comment as well. I have a wife and kid in high school. I don’t have a car. I walk to work (45 minutes to an hour each way), my wife currently carpools with her friend, and my daughter buses it with no drama. The weekly shop is accomplished by using the bus. Admittedly on dreadful windy wet days a car would be nice, but overall it isn’t so bad.

     To be honest, being a pedestrian in this country is no picnic. People barrel out of driveways without a glance to check if on the off-chance there might be someone walking down the footpath. Pedestrian crossings are ignored. It seems as if the average Kiwi motorist sitting on his/her arse, surrounded by steel, aluminium and plastic is given a free pass to la la land and the right to be oblivious to all and sundry around.
   • Lanthanide 5.2

     23 May 2011 at 10:07 am

     Peter Dunne is going to have a hard time adjusting to the future, isn’t he?
     • Colonial Viper 5.2.1

       23 May 2011 at 10:23 am

       +1

       And probably, he’s not going to be the only one.
     • Tigger 5.2.2

       23 May 2011 at 10:23 am

       Won’t win him any votes in Ohariu either. Lots of people in our electorate cycle, despite the fact that they have to negotiate the motorway to and from the city.
6. Afewknowthetruth 6

   23 May 2011 at 11:07 am

   ‘the Council has set an ambitious Greenhouse Gas Target of a 40% reduction of 1990 levels by 2030. ‘

   Yes that is ambitious, since Auckalnd has no oil reserves, nor coal. Just where the council thinks its going to get the fuel to generate those emissiosn remains a complete mystery, since global oil extraction has peaked and is flagged to decline by around 3% per annum from now on. Allowing for increasing domestic consumption by nations currently exporting oil, we will probably witness a decline in tradeable oil of around 5% per annum from 2011 on, so NZ may have access to around 10% of its current consumption by 2030 if it is very lucky.

   Fortunately, current global economic arrangements are almost certain to implode within the next 2 or 3 years, so we won’t have to concern ourselves with the delusions of the lunatics in councils for much longer. Food will be a great concern, of course.
   • wtl 6.1

     23 May 2011 at 11:21 am

     The certainty and precision with which your predict such future events reminds me of one Harold Camping.
     • scott 6.1.1

       23 May 2011 at 1:29 pm

       Zing!
   • Lanthanide 6.2

     23 May 2011 at 12:03 pm

     Personally I think that while we will probably see some mild, then steep declines once things get going, I really doubt that we’d be looking at 10% by 2030. Necessity is the mother of invention, and more and more oil will be brought on line and efficiencies will be harnessed (demand destruction, really). Also expect coal and gas to liquids to ramp up. I think something like 30-40% by 2030 is more reasonable.

     We’re already past due when the world was supposed to completely implode (2008-2010) and yet here we are, with almost the highest levels of oil production ever, and the decline rates have been revised down to 3% from 9%.
7. ianmac 7

   23 May 2011 at 11:38 am

   The underlying unwillingness to make the Auckland plan a success must surely be because National cannot stomach a Left leaning Brown being successful or progressive. But if someone like Banks was mayor…..
8. James 8

   23 May 2011 at 5:08 pm

   Also the other concern is the lifestyle changes of high density housing.

   Are there sufficient public recreation spaces being made available to make up for the lack of back yards?

   No there doesn’t seem to be around Mt Wellington.

   And I’ve heard more and more apartments for the inner city.

   Literally where will the children play?
9. RobertM 9

   23 May 2011 at 9:22 pm

   The point is to put the nail into English and demand he calls tenders and approves an order for Auckland rail electrification before the election. Concentrate on the main point and demand action. Even demand priority over some uneconomical and questionable exercises on a cost benefit in Christchurch. If Labour wins I would’nt add the loop, I’d put the tram double tracks up Queen St and restore the tram system essentially as it was Jan l956.

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