Comments on: National’s history of rewriting history http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/ The New Zealand labour movement used to have its own newspaper. A group of us thought that now might be a good time for it to be digitally reborn: The Standard v2.0 - now in a new format The Standard v3.0 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:53:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: the sprout http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20412 the sprout Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:16:03 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20412 well said george, often thought the same. well said george, often thought the same.

]]> By: Dean http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20350 Dean Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:04:47 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20350 What a nice own goal this topic is. Really, if you're going to post stuff like this then it might just pay to read the whole thing before your foot ends up uncerimoniously in your mouth. What a nice own goal this topic is. Really, if you’re going to post stuff like this then it might just pay to read the whole thing before your foot ends up uncerimoniously in your mouth.

]]> By: george http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20349 george Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:03:19 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20349 Im just sitting here and trying to figure out why we are limited to the rules of engagement that says we have to be truthful. National seems to able to work around the truth with ease. We seem to be trying to "Get the truth out there"But no one seems to be able to see it.What are we doing wrong.The MSM does not want to hear that Key wants wages to drop or the 5/6 different reasons that he has thrown in the arena seem to have been accepted by them.Don't you find this bit strange?We seem to be bound to some sort of moral code that leaves us short of the mark when it comes to deceit. I am not suggesting that we abandon our honor but that there must be some other way to get the truth out there.The silly tick and tat doesn't reach the right people.We are a talented bunch so surely there is a better way. Im just sitting here and trying to figure out why we are limited to the rules of engagement that says we have to be truthful.
National seems to able to work around the truth with ease.
We seem to be trying to “Get the truth out there”But no one seems to be able to see it.What are we doing wrong.The MSM does not want to hear that Key wants wages to drop or the 5/6 different reasons that he has thrown in the arena seem to have been accepted by them.Don’t you find this bit strange?We seem to be bound to some sort of moral code that leaves us short of the mark when it comes to deceit.
I am not suggesting that we abandon our honor but that there must be some other way to get the truth out there.The silly tick and tat doesn’t reach the right people.We are a talented bunch so surely there is a better way.

]]> By: Phil http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20338 Phil Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:50:55 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20338 I don't know any of the details about the email he sent, but the second and third portions of the deleted entry fall well and truly outside of Wikipedia's content policy. They shouldn't have been there in the first place. Just out of interest, does Trevor Mallard's entry make reference to his (alleged?) infidelity or assault? I don’t know any of the details about the email he sent, but the second and third portions of the deleted entry fall well and truly outside of Wikipedia’s content policy. They shouldn’t have been there in the first place.

Just out of interest, does Trevor Mallard’s entry make reference to his (alleged?) infidelity or assault?

]]> By: ghostwhowalks http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20327 ghostwhowalks Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:54:26 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20327 Keys entry has been 'sexed down' in the last few weeks. Apparently instead of being an overnight currency trader he started his work life as a suburban accountants auditor. No mention of those who lost their jobs at Bankers Trust, when Key as manager sacked the lot , but got promoted to a new job in Sydney. Maybe hes has mellowed, wage cuts only instead of losing your job completely Keys entry has been ‘sexed down’ in the last few weeks.
Apparently instead of being an overnight currency trader he started his work life as a suburban accountants auditor.
No mention of those who lost their jobs at Bankers Trust, when Key as manager sacked the lot , but got promoted to a new job in Sydney.

Maybe hes has mellowed, wage cuts only instead of losing your job completely

]]> By: the sprout http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20313 the sprout Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:14:47 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20313 also on the topic of National party re-writes http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,966,island_life_national_landslide_or_key-fuelled_rage.sm?p=42997#post42997 also on the topic of National party re-writes
http://publicaddress.net/system/topic,966,island_life_national_landslide_or_key-fuelled_rage.sm?p=42997#post42997

]]> By: the sprout http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20308 the sprout Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:53:01 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20308 the real story is what Peachy did to Rangitoto's finances in his last 3 years as a by then very disinterested principal, after his failed attempt to enter parliament in 2005. i'm sure he was legally entitled to spend all that money on his overseas "research" trips, but it didn't leave a lot money left over in the school coffers to get on with the job of educating students. the real story is what Peachy did to Rangitoto’s finances in his last 3 years as a by then very disinterested principal, after his failed attempt to enter parliament in 2005.

i’m sure he was legally entitled to spend all that money on his overseas “research” trips, but it didn’t leave a lot money left over in the school coffers to get on with the job of educating students.

]]> By: Wikipedia » National’s history of rewriting history http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20303 Wikipedia » National’s history of rewriting history Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:17:13 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20303 [...] in search of wrote an interesting post today on National’s history of rewriting historyHere’s a quick excerptThe historically accurate Wikipedia account of the incident, complete with supporting media references (pictured above), was deleted at 11:16pm… [...] [...] in search of wrote an interesting post today on National’s history of rewriting historyHere’s a quick excerptThe historically accurate Wikipedia account of the incident, complete with supporting media references (pictured above), was deleted at 11:16pm… [...]

]]> By: Robinsod http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20300 Robinsod Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:09:29 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20300 And I am Bill English pretending to be John Key in disguise as Mike Williams. Oh, no hold on that last one is IrishBill. And I am Bill English pretending to be John Key in disguise as Mike Williams. Oh, no hold on that last one is IrishBill.

]]> By: The Double Standard http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20299 The Double Standard Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:08:52 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20299 If I'm reading the wiki history correctly, it seems that the same IP range made positive changes to Nandor Tanczos, Chris Carter, John Tamihere, Darien Fenton, Anita McNaught, Darren Hughes, Tim Selwyn, Charles Chauvel, and Keith Locke Somehow that doesn't fit your rather pathetic attempt to link Peachey with an edit on his page now does it? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=202.22.18.241 If I’m reading the wiki history correctly, it seems that the same IP range made positive changes to Nandor Tanczos, Chris Carter, John Tamihere, Darien Fenton, Anita McNaught, Darren Hughes, Tim Selwyn, Charles Chauvel, and Keith Locke

Somehow that doesn’t fit your rather pathetic attempt to link Peachey with an edit on his page now does it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=202.22.18.241

]]> By: MikeE http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20292 MikeE Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:00:50 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20292 Jacqui Dean's page had a similar result when the DHMO story broke. All references to it were deleted twice on the day it hit the news, before being left alone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacqui_Dean#Water Jacqui Dean’s page had a similar result when the DHMO story broke. All references to it were deleted twice on the day it hit the news, before being left alone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacqui_Dean#Water

]]> By: Billy http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20288 Billy Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:53:25 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20288 We've covered this before. 'sod is DPF. He is also my father. I am TDS. We’ve covered this before. ‘sod is DPF. He is also my father. I am TDS.

]]> By: Tane http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20281 Tane Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:16:58 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20281 Sod... are you Stephen Franks? Sod… are you Stephen Franks?

]]> By: Robinsod http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20280 Robinsod Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:16:30 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20280 Billy - I'm not even allowed on parliament grounds anymore let alone near an internet connection there. Billy – I’m not even allowed on parliament grounds anymore let alone near an internet connection there.

]]> By: Ari http://thestandard.org.nz/nationals-history-of-rewriting-history/comment-page-1/#comment-20278 Ari Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:11:21 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1231#comment-20278 Oh look, someone has conveniently restored the entry without the NPOV problems... I wonder who did that? :P Oh look, someone has conveniently restored the entry without the NPOV problems… I wonder who did that? :P

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