Deano, I never called anyone an Uncle Tom, I accused National of tokenism. Different things, and I’m sure you’ve the intelligence to get the difference.

Ha! is that the best decontextualised smear you’ve got deano? After a year of posts and comments from the Standard crew that’s it??? Mate you need to get out more.

Oh and Dean? I get the feeling you’re not in the “captains of industry” class the nats are keen on looking after. I guess that makea you an uncle tom – though I’d be more inclined to use the term house nigger. Eh, boy?

Say Dean, what do you think of that moron Whale posting photoshopped porn of politicians and teenagers on his classic right wing blog?

Too true. I’d love to see a right wing blog call someone an “Uncle Tom” and still remain writing articles for it, yes. The howling would be a most entertaining crescendo.

You’re funny

Ok, on topic.

I wonder if Key is keen on wage increases for people-like-them, higher wages for the better paid.

Most (all?) of their anti-worker policies will hurt poorly paid workers far more than National voters.

I’m awfully curious all of a sudden

About the Standards propagandists and the meaning of the word Propaganda the following;

Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behaviour to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist.
Garth S. Jowett and Victoria O’Donnell, Propaganda and Persuasion

The 19th of July spin article “in Search of John Key” in the NZ herald comes to mind. Especially when a little googling gives such a
different picture.

The Wikipedia page on propaganda is actually quit a nice read.

Here we just talk and discus issues. You may not like the way we discus issues but propaganda is your business not ours.

Anita

I agree but it is so much fun to answer who ever it is. LOL

That whole first paragraph made me think it’s not the real Fran O’Sullivan; I don’t believe a working journalist would write anything so incoherent and stylistically poor.

who yet again aka Idiot/Savant are withhold their identities

Use a spell checker and read your stuff out loud like they taught you in journo school, it helps.

It’s no wonder if she needs to come here to vent a bit. I think “journalists” in the print are feeling increasingly pressured by blogs, if only because so many of them are being forced to become “bloggers” too.

Lynn made a very relevant observation in the thread “Leave it to the pros” – http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=2755#comment-81336 – to the effect that a lot of journalists have been speculating on the relationship between journalists and bloggers lately (Bill Ralston, Vernon Small, Chris Trotter, Jane Clifton). I think we’re in the early stages of a slow paradigm shift.

Bring it on I say. Better the voices of the people in discussion on blogs than paid pundits telling us what to think from the pulpit of their owner’s editorial pages. Sorry Fran.