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National’s mouthpiece on manufacturing doesn’t like details

Written By: - Date published: 2:10 pm, June 12th, 2014 - 115 comments
Categories: blogs, christchurch earthquake, David Farrar, Economy, employment, manufacturing - Tags: , , ,

David Farrar in his usual burst of hypocrisy and curious selectiveness about detailed numbers is proclaiming a headline rise in manufacturing. As is usual he is only interested in the top level numbers and doesn’t provide a link to even the summary data. I guess that is because they are rather depressing for employment and wage packets, which is what most voters expect from growth. But here is the view from the 9th floor of the beehive.

Seasonally adjusted manufacturing value for the 1st quarter of 2014 was $25.3 billion. A year ago in the same quarter it was $22.8 billion. That’s an 11% increase in the last year.

This of course is what Labour, Mana, Greens and NZ First call a manufacturing crisis.

Ah no. What they call a manufacturing crisis is that there are few or no jobs arising from this miraculous rise in manufacturing. Consider this from the March 2014 Household Employment Survey

The main contributors to the annual growth in employment were the construction industry (up
24,400 people – 14 percent) and the professional, scientific, technical, administration, and
support service industry group (up 17,700 people – 7 percent).
Although not statistically significant, there was also a rise in the retail trade, accommodation, and
food services industry group (up 17,100 people – 4.9 percent)

Manufacturing? I had to dig into the spreadsheets for that. It is in table 7 of the Household Employment Survey spreadsheet. The estimated employment in manufacturing declined from 246.2 thousand in March 2013 to 246.0 thousand.

So somehow we managed to have a 11% increase in manufacturing over the past year with no increase in employment in manufacturing jobs. Curiously David with his view coming from high in the Prime Ministers office failed to mention that. I wonder why? Could it have something to do with Labour, Mana, Greens and NZ First being completely correct (and David Farrar being a selective paid mouthpiece for National)?

Where the jobs are going to is the one-off Christchurch rebuild. Much of the growth in jobs in fact comes from Canterbury construction and the services servicing them.

The increase in Canterbury employment included an 11,900 (36 percent) rise in the construction
industry and an 11,900 (26 percent) rise in the retail trade, and accommodation and food
services industry group.

As usual most of the remainder comes from Auckland where we have a housing crisis and burgeoning ICT export industry.

Just shows what happens when you hold up working on peoples houses and businesses until the year prior to an election. Of course this was probably had nothing to do with Brownlee’s dithering for the past 3 years eh?

But lets have a look at the manufacturing information that David (curiously) did not provide from the more detailed PDF. What the government would like voters to see is this.

What they don’t want voters to see is what the manufacturing looks like without the dairy and meat in the following graph. That is because there are bugger all jobs in processing dairy (the rise in sales of meat is negligible), most of the processing is done in highly capital intensive plants.

Doesn’t that more like what voters are seeing when they look at our jobless manufacturing “recovery”.  I’d point out that when you dig further into the stats, you’ll find that even the upturn in this non-dairy and meat “manufacturing” sales, a large chunk of it also turns out to also be in barely processed commodities like petroleum and coal products, non-metallic mineral products, other food products like fruit or cereals, and wood. Each of which, like most farm products,  is subject to prices that rapidly change on the world market, which competitor nations can and do rapidly emulate and follow, and which are frequently subject to changes in the ability to enter markets like recent restrictions of milk powder into China. Most of the processing for which is increasingly done by machines rather than people because that is what is demanded by the market.

Even the dairy growth is faltering on the back of sustained drops in dairy prices and the buildup of stockpiles of dairy and meat products. The StatsNZ commentary says about dairy and meat that…

The volume of finished goods stocks (which is not seasonally adjusted) was 6.7 percent higher than in the March 2013 quarter, and is now at the highest-ever level for a March quarter.

This is reflected in the year to year stockpiles where there are more than 1.5 BILLION dollars in stock hanging around of dairy and meat.

Ah yes, rapidly heading for a local glut and probably job layoffs in what processing jobs there are in the dairy industry would be my bet.

So as you can see, there is a reason that David Farrar doesn’t like to provide links to the StatsNZ documents. While the commentary in them tends to only concentrate on the positives for the government, the information is there for everyone to see. Even those dumbarses who comment at the Kiwiblog sewer. We have a jobless recovery going on where almost all of the profits are going to a select few (including many government MPs) who own the sectors of the economy that the the government chooses to foster – their donors.

115 comments on “National’s mouthpiece on manufacturing doesn’t like details”

  1. geoff 1

    Excellent analysis, Lynn and once more showing Farrar up to be National’s toadie.

    • lprent 1.1

      Oh that was just a hook that I added in there after reading his hook post on mickey this morning.

      Damn stupid really. Lawyers do what their clients tell them and they can’t release what their advice was to them. Makes them an easy target for someone wanting to be a bit of an arsehole. I don’t mind using the same tactic…

      It really isn’t what this post is about – more of an afterthought after I’d looked at the current quarters data yesterday.

  2. ianmac 2

    Sadly though as interested as I am it is so hard to get a basic (simplistic?) understanding of the employment/production problems. Need simple catch words to try and shift the thinking of right leaning friends.

    In the first graph it has taken 6 long years for Manufacturing sales to creep back towards the highs of 2009. What were they doing in the interim!

    In the second graph we have huge stocks of unsold goods waiting for a free market buyer. 1.5 billion dollars worth of goods unsold for heaven’s sake! What sort of planning and support is going on or not going on there? Is the Government asleep at the wheel?

    • lprent 2.1

      And most of that graphs increase merely reflects the increases in dairy prices with a lesser increase in dairy volumes.

      Unfortunately I’m not good at slogans… sigh

      Perhaps people could suggest a few.

  3. The Real Matthew 3

    Who would have thought a technology based industry would shed jobs as technology became cheaper than employing wage earning individuals?

    Next they’ll have pre-pay at the pump and you’ll be buying your train ticket at a machine.

    • Colonial Viper 3.1

      We’re creating an economy which doesn’t need the majority of workers any more, while at the same time refusing to let people make a living in the field of arts, crafts, culture and literature.

      Speculators and financial scammers get rewarded the most in this environment.

      • Wreckingball 3.1.1

        I should have directed this reply directly at you CP.

        Also, Colonial Viper – “We’re creating an economy which doesn’t need the majority of workers any more, while at the same time refusing to let people make a living in the field of arts, crafts, culture and literature.”

        We are not refusing to make let people make a living in the field of arts and crafts etc. We have numerous authors and artists who make a great living. If people are skilled enough, and produce good products, then they can make a living. What do you propose? We subsidise people so that they can sit around making pottery. Very backward thinking. Please explain.

        • Colonial Viper 3.1.1.1

          Firstly, it is crucial to accept that society requires a major not-for-profit arts and culture emphasis in order to de-prioritise the role of commercialisation and corporations in society.

          Secondly, it is crucial to accept that you cannot just have a few outstanding people making a “great living” from the arts – you need to nourish and support talent at every stage, and even give ordinary people in depth exposure to art and literature. This means funding scholarships, night classes, entry level jobs in the field, worthwhile career pathways, etc.

          Thirdly, it is important that as a society we put significant monies into teaching people who are interested skills like pottery, weaving, painting, writing, theatre, film making, CGI and dance.

          Very backward thinking. Please explain.

          Why on earth do you declare it backwards? Advanced civilisations need to maintain creativity and culture within their peoples, and that is what I am suggesting.

          • Jum 3.1.1.1.1

            Well said CV; when you want to produce robots you remove stimulus that excites parts of the brain that encourage humanity.

    • lprent 3.2

      Would that it was so. But most of the “manufacturing” growth is for simple conversion of barely processed commodities mostly using existing plant – even in the dairy sector.

      There is another set of data around (in several places statsNZ, MOBiE, and tax) that looks at capital investments that I neither had the time or the space to expound on. But once you exclude dairy then what you can see is very little investment in any kind of plant. In fact it looks like most “manufacturing” plant is being run down.

  4. Ad 4

    This still doesn’t feel like a recovery no matter what the banking economists say.

    It’s worth going into the tabbed sections of the statistics report that LPrent has linked to. In there you will find five-year series breakdowns for each of the manufacturing sectors.

    They do not make pretty reading if we are seeking a value-added export base for New Zealand.

    • Seafood processing in slow decline
    • Transport and machinery equipment in slow decline
    • Fruit, oils and cereals declining
    • Petroleum spiking around 2012 and still up pretty strongly
    • Chemicals and polymers gradually up, and also strong

    There is I am sure an industry story to be told in each one of those sectors.

    This morning Auckland Council determined to give the superyacht manufacturing proposal in Hobsonville a 1-year reprieve from turning the whole thing into housing. And sure, we need more housing and Council could have sold it off to pay down debt. Sigh.

    With neither central nor local government even imagining economic development in New Zealand, without a change of government we will continue to be the devleoping world’s bulk protein exporter. We need to be better than that. Where is Jim Anderton when you need him?

    • lprent 4.1

      Yeah I find it a bit terrifying for the future when I look at how shallow and vulnerable that National’s economic development strategy is.

      It is classic short-term rentier thinking about how to make money for property owners cheaply. Bearing in mind the whacking great debt that they foisted on us giving tax cuts to the wealthy and the greying of the workforce, it is a bloody silly idea foisting a crippled economy on to the kids to pay for it.

      • Draco T Bastard 4.1.1

        Yeah I find it a bit terrifying for the future when I look at how shallow and vulnerable that National’s economic development strategy is.

        I didn’t realise that they had one.

        it is a bloody silly idea foisting a crippled economy on to the kids to pay for it.

        National’s been doing that forever. It’s certainly the full idea behind Muldoon’s junking of Labour’s retirement savings plan back in ’75/6.

    • greywarbler 4.2

      Jim Anderton is amongst other things trying to recreate Christchurch cathedral. A bunch of the stolid Christchurch community can’t move into the 21st century and Anderton has saved historic buildings in the past. So he wants to recreate the past triumph in Chch.

      • Ron 4.2.1

        Interesting that Anderton a Roman Catholic I believe did not show much interest in preserving the Catholic Blessed Sacrament Cathedral in Christchurch instead spends all his time attacking Anglican Authorities who want to move on with their own building.

        Jim Anderton is amongst other things trying to recreate Christchurch cathedral

  5. ghostwhowalksnz 5

    Looks like Farragoblog and the Oily Orca had the same burst of inspiration of the state of manufacturing

    F: The manufactured crisis gets worse.-June 11

    W:LABOUR’S MANUFACTURING CRISIS JUST KEEPS CRISISING ALONG- June 10

    Notice the same ‘angle’ on both reports, a pun on Labours ‘manufacturing crisis’

    Coincidence ?

    Or you get what you pay for .

    • ianmac 5.1

      They must be getting bothered that the people are aware of job shortages?

    • Tom Gould 5.2

      You get what you pay for. Plus a few of the big chattering chooks thrown in. Cheap at the price.

  6. infused 6

    You will find the manufacturing sector is actually now recovering and paying debt from the GFC.

    • lprent 6.1

      Correct. But most of that was over in 2013.

      The problem is that most of manufacturing aren’t growing. That shows up in the lack of capital and jobs going into anything outside of dairy. This is a time when we should be seeing new companies starting up and heading off to export as well as the survivors from the mid-00s that are expanding. They simply aren’t there.

      It isn’t too hard to look around and see the signs of more GFC style recessions in the next decade. What do we want? Go into more debt as the population ages? That appears to be Nationals strategic direction.

      • infused 6.1.1

        Nope. I look after quite a number, so I can tell you what’s actually going on.

        Most only recovered around December last year.

        The biggest thing is, simple manufacturing is dead. They need to adapt and change. A few of them are, and making good money off it. I can’t really go in to detail on what they are doing though, but it’s moving away from the traditional manufacturing process (knowledge based). The reason is other countries do it far cheaper, and that’s something that’s not going to change. People bleat on about quality etc all the time. But at the end of the day, it comes down to the dollar. Every time.

        The cost of shipping from NZ is also massive. There are only a few companies that handle bulk/heavy freighting around the world direct from NZ, and they charge out the ass for it.

        What do you expect the Govt to do? There are already a ton of tech based export programs going on in Wellington, which I am involved in. I think the problem is, not a lot of this is common knowledge.

        • Draco T Bastard 6.1.1.1

          The reason is other countries do it far cheaper, and that’s something that’s not going to change.

          Actually, they don’t as it’s physically impossible for them to do so. It’s only our financial system that makes it seem as if they do. Basically, our financial system is delusional.

          The cost of shipping from NZ is also massive.

          The reverse must also be true.

          • lprent 6.1.1.1.1

            It is, but less so for quantity. The shipping companies prefer not to come into NZ lightly laden. They prefer to have something to offload.

          • KJT 6.1.1.1.2

            Not really. Lots of bulky heavy stuff from NZ.

            The stuff coming in is light, high tech. Plenty of space inbound.

            Removing New Zealand ships, and crews, did not result in the promised decreased costs for exporters, because the ships going to Europe/China/USA via Australia (our biggest manufactured export market) are already full of milk powder, meat, fruit, timber and coal.

            The overseas shipping companies act as a cartel, to keep prices high both ways, however.

            • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.1.2.1

              This despite what I hear is shit loads of spare freight shipping capacity internationally right now…

        • lprent 6.1.1.2

          Most only recovered around December last year.

          Yeah most that I know of who took a hit from the GFC financing issues were getting ahead in the second half.

          The biggest thing is, simple manufacturing is dead. They need to adapt and change. A few of them are, and making good money off it.

          The cost of shipping from NZ is also massive. There are only a few companies that handle bulk/heavy freighting around the world direct from NZ, and they charge out the ass for it.

          Agreed, but there are four types of manufacturing that survive.
          1. Tech exporters where the competitive advantage is software. NZ is too damn small a market so they typically export 90%+ (obviously I know them well)
          2. The ones where freighting to NZ is prohibitive – for instance the foam rubber stuff my sister was running
          3. The ones using a local resource and adding lots of value to it mostly for export. The small ones of those usually aren’t getting the support that they could use. That is where a number of manufacturers I know of now work.
          4. The bespoke manufacturers who support the others. They get no support and the support that they mostly need is introductions.

          There are already a ton of tech based export programs going on in Wellington, which I am involved in. I think the problem is, not a lot of this is common knowledge.

          First problem is in what you described. How much manufacturing is done in the wellington area? They shouldn’t be based there at all. Put them into Auckland, Christchurch, and some roving ones who poke their noses into the provincial centres (like Wellington :) )

          Another problem is that most of the support is targeted at the wrong targets, mostly the larger companies who really don’t need it except when they do a transition to a new product area. The small to medium ones don’t receive much at all.

          And another one is that the support is passive. Instead of the government going out and helping the SME’s to get it, they wait until people come to them. Which just lends itself to crony capitalism. It becomes who you know and/or lobby rather than being proactive and pushing ideas into companies (makes me irritated and thinking of the 1980s). If you are a SME exporter, then you need people actively coming to talk to you inside the companies with possibilities rather than trying to find time to get to largely meaningless meetings where there is little active and accurate details.

          Now you have to remember that I don’t have a particular stake in this. I write software and there usually isn’t that much of an issue finding work. I prefer companies related to manufacturing exports. But that preference is pretty much ideological. It employs a wider range of people. It certainly isn’t the best paid. But I’ve done a lot of exported software as a service as well in the past.

  7. Naki man 7

    “Ah yes, rapidly heading for a local glut and probably job layoffs in what processing jobs there are in the dairy industry would be my bet.”

    This is complete bollocks, job layoffs my arse, Fonterra Waitoa has just employed 100 new staff in its new 120 $mil UHT milk plant. A friend of mine who is an engineer for a company that is designing some of the many new milk powder driers being built in the north island over the next two years says he is very busy. The truth is there will be more jobs in the highly paid dairy industry not job layoffs. As for a local glut this is also horse shit.

    • lprent 7.1

      Well if they were going to lay off staff, then they wouldn’t do it in a new plant right?

      Stupid comment.

      • Naki man 7.1.1

        Yours is the stupid comment suggesting that there will be fewer jobs when there are lots of new plants being built. Fonterra and the other companies will be employing more staff. There is huge growth in the dairy industry even in the north island. Every year milk volumes increase and it has to be processed.

        • Colonial Viper 7.1.1.1

          Bulk commodity manufacture

          Wish NZ could do something which required a bit more product innovation than tonne after tonne of milk powder

        • lprent 7.1.1.2

          Problem is that there is currently a mountain of unsold stock being created, presumably because the amount that is already being produced isn’t wanted in the market. Part of that is because plant and milk production in other countries is rising. The growth in the US for whole milk drying is phenomenal. Not to mention parts of Europe and China itself.

          So adding new plant in, if that trend persists, will eventually cause the fraction of the total milk production that is covered by the world market price falls (as we are seeing now), and closures of older plant. It isn’t like we haven’t seen this same pattern before in NZ.

          Personally I think that Fonterra and the other exporters have gotten myopically focused on China and haven’t started to think about what happens when that market stops taking all available production.

        • redfred 7.1.1.3

          Back Nack Man

          Again your stupidity astounds me.. do you understand how competition and markets work?
          Basically if there is a buck to made people pile into it and then it becomes a competition of scale and efficiency.

          Read this … NZ will be over taken in approximately 5 years as the biggest milk powder producer.

          http://keithwoodford.wordpress.com/2013/10/10/the-industrialisation-of-american-dairying-and-the-implications-for-new-zealand/

          What facts have you got?… none, some meaning less local job figures that have nothing to do with the bigger picture.

          Here is some more facts

          There were 60,000 dairy suppliers in the US and their milk supply was about four times the volume of New Zealand’s.

          “But 40 per cent of that milk is produced by 800 mega dairies.”

          http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/dairy/10037881/Kiwis-warned-off-mega-dairy-farming-model

          NZ Dairy won’t disappear but by the end of the decade it will not be the cash cow it once was… yes pun intended.

          These truths show how short sighted National are in pinning there hopes on dairy.

          What do you make of that information; does it worry you Naki Man? Can you comprehend how it makes what Key et al are doing on par with Muldoons wool stock piling? Do see how it makes a complete lie out of David Farrars spin for his beloved National party or are you just blinkered to the facts?

    • Draco T Bastard 7.2

      The truth is there will be more jobs in the highly paid dairy industry not job layoffs.

      So highly paid in fact farmers have been getting in trouble for breaking minimum wage laws.

  8. dimebag russell 8

    neighhhhhhhhh!

    [lprent: Horse imitations should probably be in OpenMike? They do seem rather pointless here. Perhaps you meant to say that you couldn't understand numbers and couldn't say anything? Silence may be a wiser policy. ]

  9. Gosman 9

    Do you have any evidence that David Farrar is a paid mouthpiece for National? Because if he was he constantly wanders off message.

    Regardless why are members of the left hung Up On Manufacturing jobs? Surely what industry someone works in is less important than total employment and wage growth in the economy as a whole.

    [lprent: Now considered to be a diversion comment. Moved to the current time. ]

    • Colonial Viper 9.1

      It’s vital that NZ be a nation of production, and not just a nation of consumption, Gossie. And in that light, high value, elaborately transformed knowledge goods are what pays premium.

      I thought you would know this?

      As for your questioning of the longstanding Farrar/National link – LOL

    • lprent 9.2

      Do you have any evidence that David Farrar is a paid mouthpiece for National?

      I have enough that I am confident enough to state it. If he chose to take it up legally, then I know what I’d be looking for on a discovery motion. Not that I expect him to do so.

      Besides, if it is good enough for him to make similar statements about people here including me from 2007 onwards with absolutely no evidence, then I can’t help but feel that I am merely following his lead.

      I’d also note that I don’t consider that this is what this post is about. People are welcome to address that topic in OpenMike.

      Surely what industry someone works in is less important than total employment and wage growth in the economy as a whole.

      The rebuild in ChCh (as I pointed in the post) isn’t exactly a good basis for allowing growth in the internal economy. Outside of a bit of highly overdue construction in Auckland, the only sectors of the economy that appear to be growing permanent jobs are in Auckland.

      The dairy industry certainly isn’t as can be readily seen in the slow depopulation and lack of jobs of regions switching over to it after they finish their conversions. That damn stockpiling of the (presumably mostly ) dairy products is starting to worry the hell out of me because it is signalling a good solid bust.

      Manufacturing jobs are by far the best permanent way to soak up unemployment. Sure we are exposed to the rest of the world and have to sell to the rest of the world. At present this government is not trying to encourage that. You only have to look at the near complete drop in the support offered by MFAT or R&D funds to that sector except for a favoured few companies.

      At present the jobs being created are completely fragile and appear to be largely dependent on construction mostly in the rebuild of ChCh. Any disruption to construction jobs with the typical boom bust of that industry will have significiant carry over effects to a number of the other sectors of the economy that have been showing employment (eg the massive services rise in Canterbury).

      These are the factors showing up in the persistently well below projections income, business and GST tax take that shows no signs of stopping. The last budget was pretty much a fantasy in terms of showing any signs of being able to either pay off National’s debt or the prepare for the greying of the population. That is bloody worrying

      So yes. It does matter that manufacturing employers have been unwilling to do more than just survive over the last 5 years. We won’t have a good solid recovery that will sustain downstream employment until they do.

      • Gosman 9.2.1

        If you don’t want to be quizzed about your claims about David Farrar ‘ s formal links to the National party when you are attempting to make another point (in this case about the benefits of manufacturing jobs) you may want to refrain from making the comments in the first place. People such as geoff below obviously see this post as making that link even though you have stated it was not your main intention of the post.

        [lprent: It is my opinion backed by facts I know. He had a go at an author here today on a post directed at Labour, so he got one back in exactly the same style. If you are actually interested in that facet, then use OpenMike. Raise this again here and I will ban you until after the election. Clear? ]

    • Draco T Bastard 9.3

      Surely what industry someone works in is less important than total employment and wage growth in the economy as a whole.

      Nope:

      The books most sobering fact ‘Samsung produces 3/4 of our GDP with 123,000 employees’

      The type of industry counts for a hell of a lot and farming really doesn’t cut it.

      • lprent 9.3.1

        The books most sobering fact ‘Samsung produces 3/4 of our GDP with 123,000 employees’

        That is only the direct employees. Tech is always an ecosystem these days. Most tech companies have between 2 and 10x the number of direct employees coming in as associated supply companies, contractors, and other assorted supplies of services.

  10. Wreckingball 10

    What do you guys propose we do? Make sure that manufacturers employ people to do the jobs that machines can do. Shall we bring in handpumps into gas stations so that we need an attendant at each fuel pump? New technology in manufacturing naturally leads to a decrease in the number of jobs. But more manufacturing, will at least keep manufacturing jobs constant, if not increase the number.

    Also, Colonial Viper – “We’re creating an economy which doesn’t need the majority of workers any more, while at the same time refusing to let people make a living in the field of arts, crafts, culture and literature.”

    We are not refusing to make let people make a living in the field of arts and crafts etc. We have numerous authors and artists who make a great living. If people are skilled enough, and produce good products, then they can make a living. What do you propose? We subsidise people so that they can sit around making pottery. Very backward thinking.

    • JG 10.1

      Completely agree. It’s productivity growth, which should be celebrated. A lot of creative destruction embedded in those numbers too.

    • lprent 10.2

      Make sure that manufacturers employ people to do the jobs that machines can do.

      That would be valid if there were stats showing capital investment going into manufacturing. They don’t (look it up).

      Besides, what do petrol pumps in gas stations have to do with manufacturing? That is a retail industry not manufacturing.

      I’d also point out as a matter of general disclosure that I spent several years writing code for a local company that manufactured equipment for petrol stations. Not much of a market here. Most of it was exported. The company has since been sold to a overseas company.

      • Wreckingball 10.2.1

        1) capital investment is on the rise – take a look at the numbers. The main thing that will impact capital investment is if the government tries to decide what industries New Zealand should invest in. The market will determine what industries offer the best returns. Stupid ideas such as a green bank that invest in green technologies are useless. The market will invest in green tech if they think there are returns to be made.

        2) that petrol pump example was a broad example of a human doing what a machine can do. I am sure there are mechanical pumps used in manufacturing that could be replaced with humans.

        3) example of petrol pump equipment manufacturer is great. Kiwi ingenuity and then selling it to an overseas company. A great story. Nothing wrong with selling to someone overseas. That business owner has reaped what he has sowed. He can now reinvest that money as he wishes.

        • lprent 10.2.1.1

          capital investment is on the rise – take a look at the numbers.

          In manufacturing? That is a stupid lie. I may have to dig the figures out that I looked at in the December quarter and write a post if this is what the idiot brigade have as one of their current delusions. When I looked at it then, it was dismally low when compared to the capital cost invested. Depreciation was almost an order of magnitude higher.

          I am sure there are mechanical pumps used in manufacturing that could be replaced with humans.

          Why would you waste a human on doing something like that? They are both far too expensive in any modernish society (ie since the early 19th century).

          Nothing wrong with selling to someone overseas.

          In this case unlikely. They were all at or close to retirement. Most likely property.

          Much of their product range was shut down. I know the product I was working on was because it directly competed with a product that the buying company had just spent 20-30x our cost in R&D to produce.

          BTW: You sound like another mindless randian theoretician rather than someone with any idea about what you are talking about.

        • Draco T Bastard 10.2.1.2

          The market will determine what industries offer the best returns.

          Only in NZ. Everywhere else the government is stepping in and supporting chosen industry and succeeding. It’s pretty much how the so-called First World Nations started. It’s why we have computers to read this blog on (The Entrepreneurial State, Mariana Mazzucato). If it had been left to the “free-market” we’d still be back in the 19th century.

          Stupid ideas such as a green bank that invest in green technologies are useless.

          Green investment banks work bloody well and green technologies are what’s going to make us sustainable. The only stupidity that I can see is you.

          The market will invest in green tech if they think there are returns to be made.

          Profits are actually a thing of the past – we can no longer afford them as we can no longer go with the growth that supports them.

          Nothing wrong with selling to someone overseas.

          It’s a loss to the country that makes us poorer so, yes, there is something wrong with selling to someone overseas.

  11. dimebag russell 11

    Ban him now!

    [lprent: At this point I'm more likely to ban you for being stupid on my post. ]

  12. dimebag russell 12

    calm down lprent. I’m on your side. I cant help it if these sad sorry people drive me bananas.

    • greywarbler 12.1

      Help he’s being repressed! Now you can see the violence inherent in the system! (Monty Python) I think that the election might be made into a sharp satirical satire by someone clever. There must be lots of content if the right eye looked.

      Dave Armstrong doesn’t have any more Down the List on Sunday mornings. Perhaps he would be able to turn out some choice pieces on our version of political skulduggery which isn’t dug out but twisted with a tractor-driven auger. They were probably showing them at Mystery Creek, which might explain why our politics is such a mystery to us all.

      (Please complain if you miss Down the List to Radionz if you miss it – satire is like gold in NZ.)

    • lprent 12.2

      So add a point to your comments. Makes it a whole lot more useful and readable.

      When I’m moderating I look at comments against the policy and the past history of the commentator. If you don’t have a past history of contributing to the debate or trying to do so, then I will apply the poker

      • You_Fool 12.2.1

        My thought is that Dimebag is a night wing whinger posing as a left wing poster in the hope of making the left look like idiots…

  13. greywarbler 13

    Perhaps assiduous in manufacturing fibs and chimeras. And who can tell what they are?

  14. dimebag russell 14

    my past history is a worker who built bridges, planted forests, manicured the vistas of the rich, took out their garbage and generally tried to dodge the malice in blunderland. Lighten up lprent. this is war and while you might have some pretensions to be an honourable gentleman these people are vicious and need to be taken down at every peg. Trying to pretend that there is some sort of code of behaviour and pandering to the enemy is not the way to drive these scum out of office.

    • greywarbler 14.1

      Trouble is dimebag – because it is so serious it is necessary to marshall facts, make arguments and advance in the general direction of a reasoned political system. Which is why too many simple comments with no point aren’t useful. It’s not news to us that it is war. I bring some music videos sometimes, but they usually have a point to illustrate which I hope that people appreciate.

      So what do you think about manufacturing, can we compete if we can get the speculators filthy hands out of our pockets. Can we glide out from low wages to trending up while at the same time allow the exchange rate to go down, which makes imports dearer. Higher prices for imported stuff, then on more NZ manufactured stuff, will eventually balance out with more jobs, each one creating a ripple effect.

      • dimebag russell 14.1.1

        take you point gw but when some tory expostulates “horseshit” then what is there to say. I could have punned it and just said nay! however going round in circles is not my bag. cutting the gordian knot is. the thing is the situation is more dire than the polemicists realise. three weeks ago or thereabouts Rod Oram opined in the SST that New Zealand is slowly regressing into an agrarian economy similar to 1932 before the first Labour government was elected and began a programme of import substitution. This is now an historical event that is rapidly fading from memory as the pacific rim countries have assumed total superiority in manufacturing consumer goods. There may be 100 more jobs at Waitoa and other milk processing facilities but that is like trying to put out a fire with a water pistol but the upshot is that as manufacturing recedes into the memory then the job of ensuring a decent livlelihood and conditions for those employed and those to come is much harder as the tories maximise their position. I wish I had some concrete things to say about the future besides quoting a whole lot of statisticians numbers about growth but in the meantime it is necessary to expose the the thugs who use their economic power to gain psychological satisfaction beating up on those who cant fight back.
        OK?

        • greywarbler 14.1.1.1

          Dimebag russell
          I looked for the Red Oram piece you quoted and found such a lot of items from him that are totally current even though written last year or so. We definitely have to keep reading and thinking about the points he raises. Put your links in if you can because I get a lot of my information from reading the factual intelligent stuff that others place links to here.

          Rod Oram opined in the SST that New Zealand is slowly regressing into an agrarian economy similar to 1932 before the first Labour government was elected and began a programme of import substitution.

      • Gosman 14.1.2

        You are essentially arguing for lower wages to enable our exporting industries to compete. Seems like you’re not too different to the nasty Tories in that regard.

  15. john 15

    It is lunacy to look towards manufacturing as a big future solution to jobs.

    Globally, manufacturing is dieing sector. As a percentage of GDP it has virtually halved in recent decades – see

    http://motorcitytimes.com/mct/2013/06/paul-krugmans-model-economy-millions-trudging-to-their-factory-jobs-lunch-boxe-in-tow/worldmfg-2/

    Even with billions in government subsidies, not even Australia can afford to manufacture cars.

    The story at top gives figures of 246,000 working in manufacturing – that’s only around 10% of the workforce. It used to be nearly 30%.

    In 1980, a medium car cost $30,000. That’s over $100,000 in today’s money. Yet today we can still buy a medium car for $30,000, because it only takes a fraction of the workers to make it. It used to take hundreds of man hours to build a car – now it can be done in less than 30.

    Manufacturing is an important sector, but as a percentage of both jobs and gdp, it will continue to decline not just in NZ, but globally.

    Anybody who is looking to manufacturing significantly increase employment, in a country that is more isolated from the main markets than any other country on the globe, hasn’t taken their head out of the sand long enough to look at the big picture.

    • Colonial Viper 15.1

      1) We can’t just be a nation of consumers, we also have to be a nation of producers.

      2) Manufacturing creates skilled, well paid jobs for the working class. That’s a worthy goal and one worth fighting for.

      3) We have to prepare import substitution capabilities to prepare for the closing days of globalisation when NZ will have to be more self sufficient.

      4) Kiwis can innovate, design and make better stuff than the rest of the world.

      • john 15.1.1

        I agree we need to do what we can, but it’s lala land thinking that manufacturing will have a bigger percentage of jobs or gdp in ten years time (or even the same percentage as now).

        Meanwhile there’s shortage of an estimated 50,000 workers in I.T. in NZ.

        And we’re going to need another 50,000 workers in primary industries.

        http://www.ruralnewsgroup.co.nz/rural-news/trending/50000-more-workers-needed

        So why do people ALWAYS look to manufacturing – a sector that’s been declining globally for half a century – as the golden goose?

        • Colonial Viper 15.1.1.1

          1) Manufacturing is not declining globally – people are buying as much stuff as ever. Of course the issue is China, and other low cost manufacturers, whom corporates have outsourced our work to.

          2) We may need another 50,000 workers in primary industries but we already have 150,000 unemployed. And primary industry revenues per worker, and pay per worker, only ranges from poor to middling.

          3) People look at manufacturing (and these days it has to be about elaborately transformed high tech manufacturing) as the “golden goose” because in the 60′s, 70′s and 80′s it was the route to take to vastly increase a nation’s living standards.

          • john 15.1.1.1.1

            CV says “Manufacturing is not declining globally ”

            As a share of global GPD, it’s been in significant decline for decades See

            http://motorcitytimes.com/mct/2013/06/paul-krugmans-model-economy-millions-trudging-to-their-factory-jobs-lunch-boxe-in-tow/worldmfg-2/

            Even in the 60s, 70, and 80s, it was in decline globally as a percentage of jobs and gdp.

            As I said earlier, it used to take over 300 man hours to manufacture a car. It can now be done in less than 30.

            • Colonial Viper 15.1.1.1.1.1

              Of course its been in decline as a % of GDP – but why is that the measure that is most important?

              A nation cannot just consume; it must produce. Or it will be at the mercy of foreign powers.

              One of the sectors which has had the most massive growth globally is banking and finance – but playing electronic numbers games is never going to be sustainable. The financial sector is a parasite sucking in and hoarding capital from every other sector of the economy.

              • john

                CV asks “Of course its been in decline as a % of GDP – but why is that the measure that is most important?”

                It is important, because -

                • Around 90% of jobs are NOT in manufacturing. This number is growing and has been for 50 years
                • Only around 10% of jobs ARE in manufacturing. This number is declining and has been for 50 years.

                If you want to do something significant with jobs, you look at the sectors that are growing.

                If you don’t want to make much of a difference, you look to a tiny sector that has been in decline for half a century.

                With only 10% of jobs, looking primarily to manufacturing for jobs, would be like having a anti speeding campaign, but only for cars with number plates that end in 7.

                • Colonial Viper

                  john, why are you so afraid of manufacturing?

                  Why are you so afraid of us becoming less dependent on foreign supply?

                  Why do you want to passively sit back and let manufacturing in NZ die?

                  What’s in it for you to be making these arguments?

                • McFlock

                  what a load of shite.

                  one could equally argue that if we want to find 200,000 more jobs for folk, we should concentrate on the sector that has been allowed to stagnate in job numbers while the rest of the economy has thrived.

                  Only an idiot thinks the only solution is to copy the already successful. A smart person takes a look at the poor performers and sees if they can be improved by somesimple mechanism, rather than consigning them to the dustbin of history.

                  It’s as true of managing employees as it is of managing an economy: the real success comes from figuring out how to do something well that others do poorly. Not trying to beat established success stories at their own game.

                  • john

                    McFlock says “Not trying to beat established success stories at their own game.”

                    You just shot down you own argument in flames.

                    Most countries in the world can manufacture more successfully than we can.

                    They are ALL closer to the major markets than we are.

                    Not even our MOST successful manufacturers, like F&P appliances, F&P healthcare, Methven etc, could not survive staying in NZ.

                    Repeat – not even our BEST manufacturers can survive here.

                    Only a fool would look to a tiny sector that is getting smaller and smaller and has been for 50 years, in a country that’s further from the markets than any other, as the golden goose of job creation.

                    Especially when we need 50,000 workers in IT now, and 50,000 in primary industries over the next few years.

                    Take the blinkers off.

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      You’re all missing the essential point: International trade is dying. This is the natural result of all countries learning to do mass manufacturing cheaply and using their own resources. The other point, of course, is that jobs are dying out due to everyone being able to manufacture cheaply and without people. The economics of empire have reached their end.

                      We have to start envisioning our post work society. If we don’t what we’ll have a few very, very rich people and everyone else in poverty and we all know that ends.

                    • McFlock

                      Repeat – not even our BEST manufacturers can survive here.

                      And each of them wanted to stay, but the high dollar fucked us. And the dollar is high because of the RBA and government policy.

                      We manufacture damned well, with a good workforce. We just can’t sell shit even in our own country because this fucking regime makes imports cheaper by virtue of the fact that every time the economy starts to perk up and people get jobs, interest rates are raised as another gift to the banks.

                      We’re basically subsidising finance-sector profits with the jobs of workers.

                • felix

                  Around 90% of jobs are NOT in manufacturing. This number is growing and has been for 50 years
                  Only around 10% of jobs ARE in manufacturing. This number is declining and has been for 50 years.

                  I love it. Like it’s some sort of natural process. :roll:

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    It is a natural process. As productivity increases the percentage of the workforce needed in a sector decreases. The only thing that would keep it high would be exports but even the developing nations are now starting to catch up in industry with the developed nations and as that happens the market we can export to decreases. The end result is very little trade and a lot of people out of work.

        • geoff 15.1.1.2

          Eventually technology will make almost every job redundant. There might be a temporary bubble in I.T or in primary industries but that’s only until they can off shore that work or automate it.

          Why do you think almost every ‘recovery’ in every western economy is being described as a jobless recovery?

          So when there are no jobs left to do, what do you do, John?

          • Bluey 15.1.1.2.1

            Mostly you come and write comments on your blog of choice when there are no jobs.
            Until your savings run out, then who knows. I guess you have to learn how to catch a fish.

            • Colonial Viper 15.1.1.2.1.1

              Too bad your local stream is only good for catching cow shit and fertiliser.

              • Bluey

                That’s true, but I tend to live near the ocean. You give me an idea though to capture the shit and grow mushrooms on the river banks.

              • john

                We can now fish in local streams that in the 70s were black from toxic waster from factories and stunk from the raw sewerage that was pumped into them.

                The Waikato River used to have a fecal count 1000% more fecal matter than it has today.

                Not everything is doom and gloom.

                • Bluey

                  There were some like that downstream of Horotiu in the old Affco days down your way, but mostly you could drink from streams and enjoy it.
                  It is not better now. I have spent three months travelling around NZ recently with a German and she is absolutely horrified at the filth in this country. I felt ashamed. Even the West Coast of the SI, no bird noise except for the keas in Arthurs pass.

          • john 15.1.1.2.2

            But New Zealand’s recovery now has 166,000 new jobs since the recession. (Dec 09 2,152,000 jobs, rising to 2,318,000 in the latest quarter).

            USA now has it’s lowest unemployment since 2008.

            • Colonial Viper 15.1.1.2.2.1

              Now you’re just talking bullshit political talking points. Who is paying you to do this?

              USA now has it’s lowest unemployment since 2008.

              Can you also tell me when the last time the US workforce participation rate was this low?

              • Colonial Viper

                (for those who don’t understand, the US pretends that their unemployment is falling simply by not counting unemployed people. Clever eh. Eg if you are classed as a “discouraged worker” who has given up looking for a job, you fall out of the workforce participation statistics and are not counted as unemployed.

                In fact in the USA, you can have a 1 hr a week job being paid $2.50/hr and not be counted as unemployed.

                Some days if you simply wear a nice shirt, they’ll stop counting you as unemployed)

            • Colonial Viper 15.1.1.2.2.2

              But New Zealand’s recovery now has 166,000 new jobs since the recession. (Dec 09 2,152,000 jobs, rising to 2,318,000 in the latest quarter).

              So…how much has NZ’s population increased by in those 4 years? Did it increase by more than those 166,000 new jobs?

              Edit…oh would you look at that. Appears to me that population growth over the last 4 years is approximately 200,000. That means we’ve actually gone backwards in job numbers, relative to population.

              My friend John, it seems like you weren’t being completely honest in your statistical representations.

              • john

                Jobs have to be created by the economy. Just because one person arrives at Auckland Airport, doesn’t mean there is automatically one job created.

                The other thing you’re getting wrong is only half the population works.

                • Colonial Viper

                  That’s what I’m saying. Our population is growing faster than the number of jobs being created. Does that sound like much of a “recovery” to you? It doesn’t to me. At best the economy is treading water.

                  • john

                    CV says “Our population is growing faster than the number of jobs being created.”

                    Only half the population works. Jobs only need to increase at half the population increase.

                    And they’re growing significantly faster than that.

                    Do you not get tired of ALWAYS trying to find the most extreme negative position on every subject?

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      I get tired of reading the same lame groundless bullshit from right wing gimps year after year after year, as though they operate as some kind of Borg, only with less imagination. A grey blancmange of grey blended parrots twittering grey blended dribble.

                      We need better wingnuts.

            • geoff 15.1.1.2.2.3

              You’ve just dodged the main part of my comment, john.
              Looks like you’re only here to play a game, where’s your intellectual honesty?

              I’ll ask again, what do you do when technology makes every job redundant?

              • john

                That will never happen.

                We have more technology doing more work than ever in the history of man.

                And we have more jobs than we’ve ever had before.

                Time to leave this vortex of infinite negativity.

                • geoff

                  Why is that an infinitely negative situation for you, john?

                  Can you not imagine your life without a job?

                  I suppose for some their job helps fill that empty feeling inside and distracts them from that persistent suspicion that they’re not a human at all but rather a very boring robot.

                  Are you a very boring robot, john?

            • Tracey 15.1.1.2.2.4

              How many lost since 2008?

              As for GDP percentages… 28% of GDP is financial services. Nothing to get you a lil nervous about there aye John.

              • john

                Not really.

                For Statistics NZ, the finance sector includes insurance and business services.

                So anything that is not farming, manufacturing, transport, accommodation or government, gets put in business services.

                So the finance sector includes -

                • investment and superannuation
                • vets
                • architects
                • engineers
                • all types of insurance including health insurance
                • every rented commercial building in the country
                • the mortgage on every house in the country.
                • scientists
                • hire companies
                • real estate
                • rental properties
                • accountants
                • software and computer companies
                • management services
                • employment services
                • travel companies
                • cleaning companies
                • agriculture service companies
                • advertising
                • the legal sector
                • and even pest control.
    • miravox 15.2

      “it is lunacy to look towards manufacturing as a big future solution to jobs.”

      Tell that to Germany, if you like

      German Chancellor Angela Merkel was once asked by then-British prime minister Tony Blair what the secret of her country’s impressive success was. She famously replied, “Mr Blair, we still make things.” In Germany, manufacturing still dominates finance, not the other way around, as Germany has continued to emphasize manufacturing and exports over the financial industry.

      • john 15.2.1

        Germany has the advantage of being in the dead centre of a market that’s hundreds of times bigger than ours, and their transport costs are a tiny fraction of ours.

        Even with those advantages we will never compete on, their manufacturing sector has still plummeted from 30% of GDP to around 20%.

        • miravox 15.2.1.1

          Plummeted? Certainly it lost markets in the GFC, but plummeting is a weird word for the 2nd largest exporter of goods in the world. It’s also rebounding in industrial production since the peak of the 2008 GFC.

          http://www.tatsachen-ueber-deutschland.de/en/economy/main-content-06/strong-economic-hub-in-the-global-market.html

          Around one euro in four is earned from exports and more than every fifth job depends directly or indirectly on foreign trade. Having been “export world champion” six times in a row between 2003 and 2008, in 2009, with exports worth US$ 1,121 billion, around one third of the gross national income, Germany was the second biggest exporter of goods worldwide after China (US$ 1,202 billion). Germany’s share of total world trade is around nine percent.

          I agree about the transport problems for NZ – all the more reason to focus on innovation in SMEs to prouduce for a stable internal market, rather than having international corps ripping off our stuff in a race to the bottom.

          • john 15.2.1.1.1

            So when the numbers for manufacturing are proven to have dropped significantly as a portion of Germany’s GDP, you use figures for all exports and pretend that it’s the same and just the manufacturing sector.

            That’s like including dairy, meat, wood, fish, wool, etc, in our export figures to pretend that manufacturing is booming here.

            • Colonial Viper 15.2.1.1.1.1

              John, you’re not interested in building this nation up, just tearing it down, why are you being such a disloyal prick, is it on behalf of the 0.1%?

              • john

                If you want jobs, you can look to sectors like IT that need 50,000 workers NOW, or primary industries who need 50,000 workers over the next few years.

                Manufacturing has been shrinking globally for 50 years. Manufacturing has been sheding jobs globally for 50 years.

                You’d have to be really stupid to think the answer to the employment issues of NZ (pretty much the worst country in the world to set up manufacturing) lie in manufacturing.

                If you really believe that, then give me a call – I’ve got a really good investment in Nigeria that you’ll love

                • Colonial Viper

                  john. Why are you afraid of manufacturing? Why are you so willing to abandon one of our largest export earning sectors?

                  IT doesn’t need another 50,000 workers. Where are the 50,000 job ads, my good man? Sadly, your lies and exaggerations hide a mischievous intent.

                  The answer to NZ’s employment issues is to stop the march toward neoliberalism, to abandon the TPPA, shrink the financial sector, halve the payments going to foreign owners, and to become more self reliant as a nation.

                  Why don’t you understand that john? Why do you believe that it is in your interests to weaken our nation and its independence?

                  I ask you again, and don’t keep running like a coward – why are you being such a disloyal prick? Are you even a New Zealander? If so, why don’t you fight for the 99% instead of for the 0.1%?

            • miravox 15.2.1.1.1.2

              And you provide nothing…

              Did you look at the link? It’s the quote was about the Germany economy’s export of industrial product.

              Maybe a comaractive picture of manufacturing output (not exports) will help. Note the trend – if German manufactuing is a reducing a contributor to GDP, it’s not because manufacturing has ‘plummeted’.

    • Tracey 15.3

      unlike your party/s which look to oil and coal mining. Solid Energy anyone??? Small job numbers in the oil and gas and coal industries…

  16. Bluey 16

    Wow, only half the population works. And the rest does what?

    • john 16.1

      The rest of the population are babies, children, students (around 30% of the population).

      The other 20% are retired people, home makers, and beneficiaries.

      Hence NZ population is 4.5m with 2.3m working.

  17. Bluey 17

    What is the definition of working though?

  18. fdx 18

    I always considered Farrar more of a codpiece than a mouthpiece.

  19. srylands 19

    This obsession with Farrar is worrying. Also of course manufacturing employment will decline – it is a sign of a prosperous and successful economy. Look at Australia.

    On that note, could you please ban me from The Standard permanently? I know I should be able to rely on self-control but my morbid fascination with the stupidity here keeps me coming back. However, I now know it is futile to change the collective mind set here. So for my own good please ban me. If you need an excuse let me know and I can post a bunch of stuff that I know is trivial, but for some reason presses all your buttons. However hopefully that won’t be necessary.

    • Draco T Bastard 19.1

      The problem with your mind is that it’s set in stone and continues to believe the fallacies that it was taught.

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    MEDIA RELEASE: 28th AUGUST 2014 “Robin Hood tax and other clever ways to help our kids” It’s time to talk about tax. Not just income tax but other kinds of tax too. It’s time to talk about Capital Gains Tax,...
    Closing the Gap | 29-08
  • Government to save $400 million by doing ice bucket challenge on behalf of ...
    Turkmenistan’s challenge to New Zealand comes just one week after Pope Francis apparently died attempting to avoid his own $100 donation. The National Government this afternoon announced plans to save New Zealand in excess of $400 million by performing an...
    The Civilian | 29-08
  • Green Election Policy Highly Sophisticated.
    As each new election policy is released by the Greens I am impressed by the depth of thinking, costing and multiple benefits that come with them. We have made a convincing impression this election that we are ready to govern...
    Local Bodies | 29-08
  • Stuart’s 100 #17: A Greater Auckland?
    17: A Greater Auckland? What if we felt like we lived in an Auckland that was greater than the sum of its parts? This is perhaps one of the reoccurring themes in my 100 days project. It reflects the public...
    Transport Blog | 29-08
  • Green Party companion leaders’ debate
    The Greens take an inclusive approach to being excluded. So when we were shut out of the TVNZ leaders’ debate (despite being New Zealand’s third largest party, and despite the two-handed Key-Cunliffe format feeling more like a throwback to First...
    frogblog | 29-08
  • Shouldn’t this farmer be prosecuted for bribery?
    The Waikato Regional Council, in reporting on the fine handed down to a polluting farmer, also has some disturbing news:During the course of the Waikato Regional Council inspections that led to the prosecution, Bilkar Singh, a director of B &...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • Whatever happened to liberty?
    Yesterday, the Independent Police Conduct Authority released a report finding that police routinely exceeded their powers in shutting down "out of control" parties, invading people's homes, assaulting people, using excessive force (in some cases causing significant injury), and shutting down...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • Viewers judge TV3 to be winner in TV One leaders’ debate
    Key says the poll shows that Labour is 4% worse than gouging your eyes out, while National is only 2% worse. A snap political poll taken after last night’s leader’s debate on TV One has revealed that most New Zealanders...
    The Civilian | 29-08
  • Kiwis care about inequality
    Inequality has emerged as the key issue in the election campaign:The gap between rich and poor is by far the biggest issue facing New Zealand three weeks before election day, a new poll has found. The Roy Morgan Research poll...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • Something to do on Saturday
    There will be a series of anti-government marches in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin on Saturday:The Auckland rally starts at Aotea Square, Wellington at Te Papa marching to Parliament, Dunedin held at the Octagon and the Christchurch rally at Haley...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • Speaker: Rocking in the Public Good: Hager and Shihad
    Seldom has New Zealand seen such super-harmonies in the traditionally separate spheres of music  and investigative journalism. The release of New Zealand prog-rocker Nicky Hager’s latest album Dirty Politics coincided with the well known citizen journalist group Shihad’s book FVEY,...
    Public Address | 29-08
  • The cost of irrigation
    At the moment, the government is pushing irrigation and water storage as a way of increasing milk production and boosting the economy. Critics have argued that the result will be dirty, polluted rivers unfit for recreational use. And we've just...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • An empty void at the heart of the election
    Its election time. The blog should be humming. Its not. Why? Because there's not enough policy to comment on. Note that this is not a complaint about Dirty Politics. How power is exercised and the ethics displayed in doing so...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • Making money out of fanatics
    Click on image to enlarge This looks like a Xcd cartoon. I picked it up from a new Facebook page The Girl Against Fluoride Lies. Good to see more and more Facebook pages like this. Speaking of fluoride – the cartoon sort...
    Open Parachute | 29-08
  • Debate 1
    As you know, there was a debate last night, and the consensus appears to be that David Cunliffe won. (The strongest clue that National also thinks Cunliffe won is that Kiwiblog has seven posts up this morning to change the...
    Polity | 29-08
  • Britomart precinct quick wins
    It has now been three months since Janette Sadik-Khan visited Auckland and showed us how easy it was to create a more liveable city by making things better for people to walk and cycle around, and best of all we...
    Transport Blog | 29-08
  • Poll of Polls update – 29 August 2014
    The polls are coming thick and fast. There must be an election on… Yesterday, we had the release of the latest Herald Digipoll, while this morning it’s the Fairfax Ipsos poll. In the Digipoll, National are up 0.7% to 50.7%,...
    Occasionally erudite | 28-08
  • World News Brief, Friday August 29
    Top of the AgendaUkraine Accuses Russia of Invasion...
    Pundit | 28-08
  • Hard News: Friday Music: Tramadol Rock
    I saw Samuel Flynn Scott a couple of times last year at the time he was suffering through a back injury in a haze of painkillers. It made for a fairly spaced out Phoenix Foundation show at the Powerstation --...
    Public Address | 28-08
  • Vale Brad Fletcher, MUNZ Lyttelton Branch President
    The Maritime Union is greatly saddened by the death of Maritime Union Lyttelton Branch President Brad Fletcher in a workplace accident on Thursday 28 August 2014. Maritime Union National Secretary Joe Fleetwood says the death of Brad Fletcher, a full-time...
    MUNZ | 28-08
  • Matthew Hooton (Fanatical National Supporter) Says Key is “Dishonest”
    This morning on Radio Live, Matthew Hooton has said what John Key is saying about about not being told of the SIS Official Information Request release to Scumbag Adulterous Blogger Cameron Slater, is “unbelievable”....
    An average kiwi | 28-08
  • How most people get hacked
    Chris Trotter writes about hackers:  LISBETH SALANDER is the archetypal hacker: a damaged outsider; phenomenally clever; contemptuous of society’s rules; but possessed of an unflinching, if somewhat quirky, sense of right and wrong. Without Lisbeth, the journalist hero of Stieg Larsen’sThe...
    DimPost | 28-08
  • Rift in National Party – MPs Want Key Gone
    Rumours are rife that some National MPS are planning to oust John Key as leader after the election, while others say Key almost without a doubt will be resigning not long after the election. Key is apparently ‘fed up’ with...
    An average kiwi | 28-08
  • Quick post debate comment
    The general consensus seems to be that Cunliffe ‘won’ the debate although not overwhelmingly. Various pundits have wondered what happened to Key. Why wasn’t he funnier? Didn’t he prepare enough?  I think Key’s problem last night went a bit deeper...
    DimPost | 28-08
  • National Housing propaganda – McGehan Close Revisited
    .   . Housing has become a major, defining issue in New Zealand. We have critical shortages and escalating prices in  in the main centres and falling house values in the regions. The National government has addressed the supply &...
    Frankly Speaking | 28-08
  • National Housing propaganda – McGehan Close Revisited
    .   . Housing has become a major, defining issue in New Zealand. We have critical shortages and escalating prices in  in the main centres and falling house values in the regions. The National government has addressed the supply &...
    Frankly Speaking | 28-08
  • Labour’s plan to end homelessness
    Labour has a comprehensive approach to end homelessness starting with the provision of emergency housing for 1000 people each year and putting an end to slum conditions in boarding houses, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes that homelessness is not...
    Labour | 30-08
  • Labour: A smarter approach to justice
    A Labour Government will improve the justice system to ensure it achieves real public safety, provides equal access to justice and protects human rights, Labour’s Justice spokesperson Andrew Little says. “Our approach is about tackling the root causes of crime, recognising...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Labour to foster Kiwi love of sport and the great outdoors
    A Labour Government will promote physical activity, back our top athletes and help foster Kiwis’ love of the great outdoors by upgrading tramping and camping facilities. Trevor Mallard today released Labour’s sports and recreation policy which will bring back a...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Pacific languages recognised under Labour
    Labour will act to recognise the five main Pacific languages in New Zealand including through the education system, said Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. Announcing Labour’s Pacific Island policy he said that there must be a strong commitment to...
    Labour | 29-08
  • No healthy economy without a healthy environment
    Labour recognises that we cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment, says Environment spokesperson Moana Mackey announcing Labour’s environment policy. “New Zealand’s economy has been built on the back of the enormous environmental wealth we collectively enjoy as...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Better protection, fairer deal for Kiwi consumers
    Tackling excessive prices, ensuring consumers have enough information to make ethical choices and giving the Commerce Commission more teeth are highlights of Labour’s Consumer Rights policy. “The rising cost of living is a concern for thousands of Kiwi families. A...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki Annette Sykes, Waia...
    Media are advised that this coming weekend, the MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will be on the Internet MANA Road Trip within the electorate of Waiariki. Speakers confirmed are Annette Sykes, Hone Harawira, John Minto, Laila Harre and Kim...
    Mana | 27-08
  • Internet MANA – Waiariki Road Trip: 29, 30, 31 Aug 2014
    The Internet MANA Road Trip hits Waiariki this weekend. It would be great if all MANA members in Waiariki could especially attend the public meetings and show their support for our Waiariki candidate Annette Sykes. Confirmed speakers Hone Harawira (except Taupo), Annette...
    Mana | 27-08
  • First home buyers $200 a week better off with Labour
    A couple earning around $75,000 a year would be $200 a week better off buying a two bedroom terraced Labour KiwiBuild home instead of an equivalent new build under National’s housing policy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe.  “National’s policy to...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Another Day – Another big power profit
    The latest profit announcement from Genesis Energy shows that the power company was sold for a song to the detriment of the country’s power consumers, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “A net profit of $ 49.2 million follows hard...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour embraces the rainbow
    Labour will work hard to ensure all New Zealanders enjoy the freedom to grow up and live their lives in dignity and security. Labour’s Rainbow policy, released tonight in Wellington, focuses on International Relations, Human Rights and Education....
    Labour | 26-08
  • National gets fast and loose with the facts
    In their desperation to make it look as though they are doing something about the housing crisis, National is playing fast and loose with the facts, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour will drop power prices for Kiwi families
    New Zealanders will get cheaper power prices under NZ Power, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The electricity market is clearly broken. With falling demand for electricity, prices should be going down. Instead prices are going up and companies are extracting...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour: Promoting sustainable tourism
    Ensuring New Zealand’s clean, green status continues to be an international tourism benchmark and reviewing MBIE’s oversight of the tourism sector will be on the radar under a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Tourism policy today, spokesperson Darien Fenton said tourism...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Skills shortage a result of National’s complacency
    The fact that there is still a severe shortage of skilled tradespeople, despite a growth in the number of apprentices, is a result of National’s failure to plan and develop the workforce, Grant Robertson, Labour Employment, Skills and TrainingSpokesperson says."The...
    Labour | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker?? – Mint...
    MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is calling for a radical overhaul of New Zealand’s taxation system with calculations showing that a minimum wage worker pays a ten times higher tax rate than the Prime Minister. o Minimum wage...
    Mana | 25-08
  • Labour’s culture of science and innovation
    Labour will create a culture of science and innovation in New Zealand that will be the envy of the world, says Labour’s Innovation, Research and Development spokesperson Megan Woods. “Labour believes that good science lies at the heart of a...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Improving life for our new New Zealanders
    New Zealand’s international standing as a community that encourages and fosters all cultures will be bolstered under a Labour Government with an upgrade of the present Office of Ethnic Affairs to a Ministry. Releasing Labour’s Ethnic Affairs policy, spokesperson Phil...
    Labour | 25-08
  • South Auckland housing crisis
    National’s HomeStart package is nothing more than a political stunt designed to beguile South Auckland voters, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Few working Pasifika and Maori workers in South Auckland will be able to buy their own...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Home buyer subsidy discredited in Oz
    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mounting global pressure against Timor-Leste’s ‘death sentence’ media...
    East Timor’s José Belo … courageous fight against ‘unconstitutional’ media law.Image: © Ted McDonnell 2014 CAFÉ PACIFIC and the Pacific Media Centre Online posted challenges to the controversial ‘press law’ nine months ago when it emerged how dangerous this draft...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Spies, Lies and When Campaigns Are Fried
    Like most of the rest of the nation’s political classes, I was eagerly affixed to TV One from 12:30 on Saturday afternoon to witness the downfall of Judith Collins.Whenever we witness the crumbling of a titan of the political landscape...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Whaleoil crushes Crusher
    Judith ends up shooting herself A new email has been released suggesting that Collins was attempting to undermine the head of Serious Fraud Office with the help of far right hate speech merchant Cameron Slater. Unbelievable!   She has been forced...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Rumours Judith Collins gone at lunchtime
    Brook Sabin first of the mark with rumours Judith Collins is about to resign – PM announcing a statement at 12.30pm… …Paddy follows… …Vance confirms..   …if Collins is gone by lunchtime, it will be because the PM understands the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • BREAKING: UPDATE on DIRT ALERT!
    Thanks to the information passed to Chris Trotter by “Idiot/Savant” from No Right Turn it is now possible to identify at least some of the persons involved in this latest example of attack politics. What follows is Chris’s response to Idiot/Savant’s timely assistance: Well done...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Comparing burning puppets, hip hop lyrics and drunk student chants to black...
    Watching the mainstream media try and obscure Cunliffe’s surprise win in the leaders debate  is a reminder the Press Gallery is in depressed shock. The current spin line from the Wellington bubble media in the wake of Dirty Politics is that...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Why has it all gone quiet on Charter Schools?
    They’re one of ACT’s flagship policies and the National Party have been gung ho in supporting them. So how come we’re not hearing Hekia Parata, Jamie Whyte, Catherine Isaac, et al singing from the rafters about what a resounding success charter...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall
    Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Dirt Alert! Are the Greens and Labour about to become the target...
    WE’VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE. In 2005 pamphlets began appearing all over New Zealand attacking Labour and the Greens. For a couple of days both the parties targeted and the news media were flummoxed. Who was behind such an obviously...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: the Press Council’s decision
    . . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The difference between Cunliffe & Key in the debate
    It was with much interest that I watched the leaders debate on Thursday night.  I watched with an open mind, always happy to have my opinion changed.  Maybe John Key is all the wonderful things that many say about him,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – When Did We Agree To Our Data Being Shared with ...
    New shocking evidence has emerged from Edward Snowden’s trove of documents about a program called ICREACH under which data collected by the GCSB is shared with 23 US spy agencies. Under new sharing agreements which appear to have commenced immediately after...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Why Internet MANA are the best political friends the Greens could ever get
    Metiria at last nights #GreenRoomNZ: standing on the shoulders and camera cases of giants  NZers, regardless of political spectrum or apathy level, have a wonderful beach cricket egalitarianism about us. If we can objectively conclude a winner, then that person...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Sick of the Sleaze? Protest against National’s dirty politics THIS SATURD...
    Sick of the Sleaze? Protest now dammit! Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government’s track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Sir Edmund Thomas – Address at Nicky Hager public meeting
    I regard it as privilege to chair this public meeting. I have long had the greatest admiration for Nicky Hager’s work, and nothing I have read or heard in the media over the past week or so has caused me...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour and New Zealand Superannuation
    The kerfuffle in the wake of Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics has had a detrimental impact on our discussion of economic policies. Signs are that the main beneficiaries of the dirty politics revelations will be Winston Peters and Colin Craig; certainly National suffered...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Mike Hosking and the Leader’s Debat...
    A few weeks ago I blogged that Mike Hosking was a terrible choice as moderator for the TV One Party Leader’s Debate, because he is so embarrassingly biased in favour of John Key. So I watched the show with curiosity,...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Democracy and Cancer: A critical analysis of Dirty Politics
    Twenty years ago, England’s renowned television playwright Denis Potter died of pancreatic cancer.  Readers may recall his two masterpieces ‘Pennies from Heaven’ and ‘The Singing Detective’.  During a final television interview with Melvyn Bragg, Potter declared that he had named...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Cunliffe beats Key in First Leaders debate
    I watched the First Leaders debate at the Green Party #GreenRoomNZ, they were very kind to include me and the atmosphere was great. The debate was a resounding victory to Cunliffe. He won Round 1, Round 2, Round 3 and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • LIVE STREAM: The Green Room Leader’s Debate from 6:30pm
    The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding to the debate live, along with comment from thought leaders and commentators. ‘The Green Room’ 6pm – 8.30pm...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • How many taxpayer funded staff does John Key need to prepare for a Leaders ...
    John Key is currently at the Auckland Stamford Plaza with 40 staff, 4 undercover police cars and an entire floor booked out in preparation for tonights Leader’s debate. Isn’t 40 staff including coms, flown up to Auckland for a debate...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • A brief word on National Party Rodney MP, Mark Mitchell
    MP considers legal action against Nicky HagerThe National MP says he is considering taking a defamation case after the September 20 election.“Someone needs to be held accountable,” he said. Oh really champ? Brothers and sisters, there is a long way...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Greens advertise on Whaleoil – but not on The Daily Blog?
    PaknSave have shown ethical compass and blocked adverts on Whaleoil, yet the Greens are advertising on Whaleoil, and not The Daily Blog? I would imagine there are far more potential Green voters on The Daily Blog then ever are on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • It’s about the stupid economy stupid
    In focus group meetings, the sleepy hobbits of NZ by a staggering amount all believe that National are better economic stewards of the country than Labour, that’s why, instead of answering questions about blackmailing MPs, trawling brothels for dirt on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour Policy vs National Policy
    John Key’s favourite defence spin at the moment is people want to talk about policy and not hear answers on the ethics of trawling brothels, why Slater was given SIS information, blackmailing MPs into standing down, rigging candidate elections and hacking...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • The Green Room live streamed on TDB 6.30pm tonight for First Leaders debate
    The ‘Green Room’ will stream 6.pm tonight on The Daily Blog during the TV One leaders’ debate.Use #GreenRoomNZ to join in. The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Manukau East – the next Coalition in action
    A couple of weeks ago I had the pleasure of opening Voice Up – a youth forum run by young people in Otara. I had been asked as Chair of the Local Board to set the scene, encouraging young people...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – The Big Bang Theory
    It’s a shame that it took a brain injury for me to start seeing things with such startling clarity. The realisation that lawyering, fishing, parenting, selling cars and racing yachts had common themes was stunning. Not perhaps as stunning as...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how much Key aro...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls
    MIL OSI – Source: Selwyn Manning – Analysis Headline: 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls 5AA Australia: On this week’s Across the Ditch bulletin on 5AA Australia, host Peter Godfery and Selwyn Manning discuss the aftermath...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • La’o Hamutuk calls for inquiry into Timor GAP ‘mismanagement’ of oil ...
    The Suai project on the South Coast … “liberated” land but confused communities.Photo: La’o Hamutuk David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. AN INDEPENDENT Timor-Leste development and social justice agency has called for an inquiry into the Timor GAP corporation...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • What Is Nicky Hager?
    WHAT WILL HISTORY MAKE of Nicky Hager? That slight, perpetually boyish, journalist who descends periodically, like the admonishing angel in a medieval mystery play, to trouble our consciences and wreak merry havoc with the orderly conduct of our political affairs....
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Can anyone in msm explain how after Dirty Politics that they all got played...
    Would you not think, that after reading Dirty Politics, that our mainstream media wouldn’t allow themselves to get tricked and played again by the VERY SAME discredited pundits? The best new feature on Radio NZ is their ‘Blog Watch’ and their...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Crusher Collins caught out lying about Privacy Commissioner – is this her...
    Crusher angry. Crusher smash own career. Crusher more angry. You would think that after getting outed as such a nasty, vicious piece of work in Dirty Politics, that Crusher would be scrambling to dial back the lies and manipulations. Apparently...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Cunliffe vs Key – first leaders debate
    This is your election ‘moderator’ – just one more reason an incoming Government need to sack everyone at TVNZ and reform it into an actual public broadcaster. The first leaders debate happens this Thursday, 7pm on TV One. I have...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – An Old and Honourable Profession
      When Dirty Politics started to reference an ex-prostitute I began to get antsy. My first response was “come on Nicky, we decriminalised in 2003. Its sex worker.” My second response was “Ah oh. Who was it and did they...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Bought and paid for: the dirty politics of climate denial
    Has climate denial in New Zealand been bought and paid for by corporate interests? We already know that the ACT Party’s routine denial is closely linked to the financial support the party receives from wealthy free market fundamentalist Alan Gibbs,...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • If the msm read The Daily Blog, THIS wouldn’t be a surprise – explainin...
    Yawn. How embarrassing for Hamish Rutherford and Andrea Vance, their breathless article today suggests that the idea of Labour and NZ First cutting a  deal over the buy back of assets  is some how new news. Silly mainstream media  journalists. If...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker??
    Yesterday I did some calculations to find out what tax John Key pays compared to a worker on the minimum wage. And I put out this media release for the Mana Movement: MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Hip hop death threats – the selective outrage of our media
    PM death threat in hip hop songAn Auckland hip-hop crew slammed for releasing a song with lyrics that apparently include a threat to kill Prime Minister John Key are urging young people to enrol to vote. Kill The PM, by...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes
    Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this!
    I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this weird spear tackle from behind by his own company. I was listening to this interview at the time, and the awkwardness of it must be the worst...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Is it weird Radio NZ ban me yet still have….
    Is it weird Radio NZ ban me for life because I criticised the Prime Minister yet still have Matthew Hooton, David Farrar and Jordan Williams, 3 of the main protagonists revealed in Dirty Politics as part of their ongoing political...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Christchurch GCSB meeting – why mass surveillance matters in 2014
    This is the video for last weeks GCSB meeting in Christchurch. Don’t forget Nicky Hager’s public meeting Wednesday night in Auckland, TDB will live stream the event in the interests of our democracy. Broadcast starts 7.30pm here on TDB....
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Assange, Greenwald to appear at Town Hall meeting? + KDC is not the hacker ...
    Wikileaks founder and the engineer of revealing some of the largest abuses of power in the modern era, Julian Assange, is rumoured to be appearing at the September 15th Town Hall meeting. Assange would join award winning investigative journalist Glen...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Why Paula Bennett will be the next leader and Hooton throws the Prime Minis...
    I don’t think the public have any idea of the behind the scenes meltdown now occurring within National. There are plenty of decent right wingers who all have ethical standards who have looked at what their leaders have been doing and...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – That Awkward Feeling When Your Campaign Goe...
    Urgh. It’s a thankless and nearly impossible task politically firefighting some days. Somebody (who isn’t you, but who’s in your care, or whom you’ve got a close professional relationship with) does or says something stupid; somebody from the Media’s there...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Dirty politics goes viral
    Join the latest social networking craze this election that every Dog Cat and Jabba is putting on their facebook pages.     Joe Trinder – Ngāti Awa Born and born in Ōtepoti Ōtākou, Ex RNZN he is an Information Technology...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Blogwatch: An open letter to David Farrar: Please, be that guy
    Dear David, In light of  Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics, you wrote a blog entitled ‘Some changes on Kiwiblog’ and you suggested it was time to tighten up ship on your website, saying “I want to improve trust in myself,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • What The Hell Was That! Reflections on the media’s coverage of the Intern...
    WHAT, EXACTLY, DO WE KNOW about the confrontation outside Internet-Mana’s campaign launch? Well, we know the news media was there in force. We also know Internet-Mana’s media person, Pam Corkery, blew her stack. We know that Corkery’s outburst led the...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues
    New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues (41%) while the World’s most important problems are War & Terrorism (35%) just three weeks before NZ Election...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ 2014 Leaders Index – week ending 29 August
    Below is iSentia’s first weekly Leaders’ Index, showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. We will produce these reports for the next three...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Judgment in Paki v Attorney General
    Tamaiti Cairns said that today’s Supreme Court decision is complicated, but, in essence opens the door for Maori people to go forward with their essential claims to water. Further work is required and Pouakani Trust will continue to pursue its...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Supreme Court Decision on Maori Water Rights
    “ … the Supreme Court refused to give Pouakani people what they asked for, but may have given them something much, much better instead. The Appellants had argued that the Crown’s ownership of the River was as a fiduciary for...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Leaders Dinner with Campbell Live, Dessert with RadioLIVE
    John Campbell is hosting Colin Craig, Winston Peters, Laila Harre, Metiria Turei, Peter Dunne, Jamie Whyte and Te Ururoa Flavell LIVE from Auckland’s Grand Harbour Restaurant on Wednesday 3 September at 7pm....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Credit unions in the political spotlight
    Dirty politics was put aside last night as senior politicians outlined their universal support for growing the cooperatively owned credit union and mutual building society sector in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Maryan Street on issues of importance to older people
    Liam Butler interviews Hon Maryan Street MP on issues of importance to older New Zealanders...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • John Hanita Paki and others v The Attorney-General
    JOHN HANITA PAKI, TORIWAI ROTARANGI, TAUHOPA TE WANO HEPI, MATIU MAMAE PITIROI AND GEORGE MONGAMONGA RAWHITI v THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL OF NEW ZEALAND FOR AND ON BEHALF OF THE CROWN (“THE CROWN”) (SC 7/2010)...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Last Nights Leaders Debate Drives The #nzpol Wordcloud
    Following last nights leaders debate on TV One between John Key and David Cunliffe, the data insight organisation Qrious collected all tweets that used the hashtag #nzpol from approximately the last 24 hours to produce this wordcloud....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Campaign suggests reason behind suicide gender statistics
    An online campaign about meaning and belonging has revealed an interesting connection with the difference in suicide rates between men and women....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Act Policy Vindicated by Sensible Sentencing Data
    ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte says the Sensible Sentencing Trust's just released analysis of 3 Strikes legislation "proves ACT was right to promote the policy and that it has made New Zealand a much safer country. The figures show beyond...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • “Robin Hood tax and other clever ways to help our kids”
    It’s time to talk about tax. Not just income tax but other kinds of tax too....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Cannabis Laws Breach Treaty – ALCP
    Cannabis prohibition is neo-colonial oppression resulting in the disproportionate imprisonment of Maori, the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party says....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • 2014 Variation Broadcasting Allocation Decision Released
    The Electoral Commission has released a variation decision on the amount of time and money allocated to political parties for the broadcasting of election programmes for the 2014 General Election....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • New Zealand Shoppers- Demand Blue Tick Accredited Products
    Following ongoing concerns surrounding the issue of animal welfare in farming, particularly in the layer and broiler chicken sectors, the RNZSPCA is now asking consumers to purchase only eggs, pork, turkey and chicken that have been Accredited by the Blue...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Environment Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Environment Policy which recognises that New Zealand cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Candidate calls for an end to institutional racism
    29 AUGUST 2014 Tāmaki Makaurau candidate, Rangi McLean has spoken up in support of Irie Te Wehi-Takerei who was wrongfully accused of shoplifting at a Warehouse store in Manukau. "Over the last month, two different supermarkets have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Making tertiary education more accessible to Māori
    29 August 2014 The Māori Party launched its tertiary education policy today at Te Huinga Tauira o Te Mana Ākonga, the national hui for the Māori Teritary Students Association in Palmerston North. Te Tai Hauāuru candidate Chris McKenzie says the...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ Sign Language programmes receives $11 million boost
    Deaf Aotearoa are thrilled with Education minister Hekia Parata’s announcement this week that $11 million in funding will go towards a range of New Zealand Sign Language initiatives, including First Signs – a programme that involves sign language...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Abortion violates the Human Rights of Fathers
    Fathers1Right to Life is concerned at the glaring imbalance that exists in law, in regard to the rights of men to defend the lives of the children they have fathered. Fatherhood commences at conception. Children in the womb, just like...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Hundreds to join march against male violence in Auckland CBD
    Hundreds of supporters are expected to join the 'Take Back the Night' march through central Auckland streets tomorrow night in solidarity with making the streets safe for women and the rainbow community to walk without fear of male violence....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Classic example of need for Conservative policy
    The Conservative Party Justice Spokesman, Garth McVicar believes the sentencing of killer Aaron McDonald is a classic example of why an overhaul of the parole and sentencing system is required.”...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Greens & Labour Politicising Bullying in Schools
    Family First NZ says that both the Greens and Labour are wanting to politicise and sexualise school children under the guise of bullying programmes rather than deal with the school bullying issue as it should be dealt with....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Wellington National Is Not Our Future Rally 30/8/14
    Thousands of people will march and rally at National is not our Future events on Saturday. Auckland is the main rally centre with supportive actions in Wellington, Dunedin, Christchurch and Hamilton. In Wellington, marchers will assemble at Te Papa...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • EPA grants marine consent for OMV exploration well
    The Environmental Protection Authority has granted a marine consent to OMV New Zealand Ltd for its Whio-1 exploration well in the Taranaki Basin....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • First anniversary of the horrific chemical attacks on Syria
    Members of the Syrian Community and friends are commemorating the first anniversary of the horrific chemical attacks on Syria, in Aotea Square on Saturday 30 August 2014, between 11-3 pm. The Assad regimes chemical attacks on al Ghouta were responsible...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Anniversary of the NZ Occupation of German Samoa
    Today, 29th August 2014, marks the 100 years centenary of the occupation of Samoa by New Zealand forces at the request of the British empire, ending the German rule of Samoa. It is also the starting point for the special...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Submissions sought on mosquito repellent
    The Environmental Protection Authority is calling for submissions on a portable mosquito repellent for use outdoors. The repellent consists of a strip impregnated with metofluthrin, a substance from the pyrethroid family....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Spot the difference – the leaders debate
    I watched the Leaders' debate last night and was struck by the fact that John Key accepted all of David Cunliffe's basic assumptions. For example, he did not say that the government should not tell farmers who they could sell...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Colin Craig’s tax figures do not add up and are dishonest
    “Colin Craig’s tax plan is to have two rates of income tax: 0% up to $20,000 and 25% above that. This will leave a $6.4 billion hole in the budget even before the new spending proposed by the Conservatives. The...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Dirty Politics Impacts National Party Support
    Media Release – For Immediate Release Dirty Politics Impacts National Party Support Support for National has dropped by 4.3% to 50.8%, the latest stuff.co.nz / Ipsos political poll shows....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Labour’s environment policy welcomed
    The independent conservation organisation Forest & Bird says that overall the Labour Party’s newly released environment policy would go a long way towards protecting New Zealand’s natural heritage....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • National: Not our Future Marches across New Zealand
    Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government's track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin to oppose National's...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Tune in to tonight’s debate from 7pm
    The countdown is on! You can watch the first leader’s debate for 2014 tonight, 7pm, on TV One ....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Gamblefree Day 1 September
    It's Gamblefree Day this Monday 1 September, the national awareness day for problem gambling in New Zealand. While traditionally celebrated on the first day of September, many events and activities are held both before and after this day to raise...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Success through captioning should be a given as a Right
    Success through captioning should be a given as a Right per the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Alcohol Marketing Committee Questions Government’s Motives
    An Independent Expert Committee on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (IECAAS) has been formed out of concern amongst alcohol and public health researchers about the government’s Ministerial Forum on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (MFAAS)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • How Much Higher Can Auckland Prices Go?
    National's plan to liberalise the use of Kiwisaver funds and its proposal to raise ts cheap "Welcome Home" loan thresholds to help buyers purchase a new home has been welcomed by home building companies but attacked as a "welfare scheme...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • OPC submission period extended
    We have extended the submission period for the modified reassessment of a bee control affecting five organophosphate and carbamate insecticides (APP202142)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Vinay Deobhakta struck off roll of barristers and solicitors
    The New Zealand Lawyers and Conveyancers Disciplinary Tribunal has ordered former Tauranga lawyer Vinay Deobhakta to be struck off the roll of barristers and solicitors....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Major parties to front up for Climate Voter election debate
    New Zealand’s main political parties will take part in ‘The Great Climate Voter Debate’ on September 3....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Family violence… too big to be ignored
    As Annah Stretton gears up for her New Zealand Fashion Week show on Thursday she is utilizing her spotlight to help change the face of family violence in this country saying “the problem is far too big to ignore”....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Candidate’s SOS to northern Maori voters: Save our seats!
    (Extract from address by Rev Te Hira Paenga to Kura Hourua Maori Political Leaders hui, in Whangarei this evening)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Mary O’Neill to Stand for the Alliance in Napier
    The Alliance Party has confirmed Mary O’Neill as the Alliance candidate in the Napier Electorate for the 2014 election....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • TONIGHT [28/8/14]: The Great Political Comedy Debate
    It's a night for debating. You could stay home frowning at tonight's Leaders debate, or laugh it up with us at BATS!...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Cunliffe against personal responsibility over billboards
    The accusation by David Cunliffe that the Conservative Party is subscribing to a surveillance society by protecting its billboards via the use of motion sensor cameras reveals an anti-personal responsibility position by the about-to-be-retired Leader...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Groundbreaking health and climate conference
    The World Health Organization (WHO) is holding its first conference on climate change and health at its headquarters in Geneva this week, with New Zealand health experts in attendance....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te Tai Tokerau Party
    Last night at the Leadership Academy of Company A debate Clinton Dearlove announced the creation of a new political party supported by Whanau and Hapu....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Significant fallout from Dirty Politics allegations
    Dirty politics ... costing National up to 3.8% of its pre-publication support Large numbers of New Zealanders are aware of and talking about the issues raised as a result of the publication of Nicky Hager’s book, Dirty Politics, according to...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Colin Craig is “deluded and dangerous” – Act
    “Colin Craig is proposing a radical transformation of our constitution. The Conservatives are proposing to overthrow of one hundred and fifty odd years of parliamentary democracy and replace it with binding referenda” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
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