Comments on: Nats on Pacific workers in the 70s http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/ The New Zealand labour movement used to have its own newspaper. A group of us thought that now might be a good time for it to be digitally reborn: The Standard v2.0 - now in a new format The Standard v3.0 Mon, 28 May 2012 09:33:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: National’s redneck element at The Standard 2.02 http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-97041 National’s redneck element at The Standard 2.02 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:06:11 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-97041 [...] the heat of the Lockwood Smith controversy yesterday, some of our right-wing readers had a go at John A for posting a link to National’s racist 1975 election ad with the comment that [...] [...] the heat of the Lockwood Smith controversy yesterday, some of our right-wing readers had a go at John A for posting a link to National’s racist 1975 election ad with the comment that [...]

]]> By: Felix http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96968 Felix Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:31:19 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96968 Good lord what a shocker. Thanks Pincipessa. Good lord what a shocker. Thanks Pincipessa.

]]> By: Lew http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96903 Lew Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:32:22 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96903 Ben R: It seemed to me that that was a personal response. A political response would have been to receive them cordially as a significant constituency of the NZ electorate, and deny them the advantage of being shunned. Helen Clark almost always reacts politically, even to personal slights, which is why this incident was such an eye-opener. L Ben R: It seemed to me that that was a personal response. A political response would have been to receive them cordially as a significant constituency of the NZ electorate, and deny them the advantage of being shunned. Helen Clark almost always reacts politically, even to personal slights, which is why this incident was such an eye-opener.

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]]> By: Ben R http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96901 Ben R Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:28:41 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96901 But a truthful one, who wants with protesters, let alone when one of them tries to blow his nose on you? I think that politicians can get over these slights quite easily if power is within their grasp. But a truthful one, who wants with protesters, let alone when one of them tries to blow his nose on you? I think that politicians can get over these slights quite easily if power is within their grasp.

]]> By: Lew http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96897 Lew Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:19:14 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96897 Ben R: Yes, an ugly response. I'll look forward to seeing how (i don't think there's room for `if') she can put that behind her in a few weeks' time. L Ben R: Yes, an ugly response. I’ll look forward to seeing how (i don’t think there’s room for `if’) she can put that behind her in a few weeks’ time.

L

]]> By: Ben R http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96894 Ben R Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:13:25 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96894 "Shrek's better company" Helen Clark on meeting with a sheep rather than Foreshore protesters “Shrek’s better company”

Helen Clark on meeting with a sheep rather than Foreshore protesters

]]> By: Lew http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96889 Lew Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:06:19 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96889 Principessa: She shoots, she scores! Thank you :) http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/shame+shipley is a contemporaneous response form then-minister of Pacific Island Affairs Mark Gosche indicates it was in the House, so it should be in Hansard. L Principessa: She shoots, she scores! Thank you :)

http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/shame+shipley is a contemporaneous response form then-minister of Pacific Island Affairs Mark Gosche indicates it was in the House, so it should be in Hansard.

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]]> By: Principessa http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96888 Principessa Wed, 22 Oct 2008 05:06:11 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96888 I quoted that from Labour Press Releases on www.beehive.govt.nz on the net I have found this which are presumably the exact words from the interview she did: " ... this government is saying that, somehow or other, Mäori cannot cope on their own; that, somehow or other, a racial allocation in the form of a discount is needed to close the gap. Where is the 5 percent discount for Pacific Island people, if they are actually causing trouble as well? They climb in the windows of other New Zealanders at night. It is not only Mäori." And I got that from an article on http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/denial.htm I quoted that from Labour Press Releases on http://www.beehive.govt.nz

on the net I have found this which are presumably the exact words from the interview she did:

” … this government is saying that, somehow or other, Mäori cannot cope on their own; that, somehow or other, a racial allocation in the form of a discount is needed to close the gap. Where is the 5 percent discount for Pacific Island people, if they are actually causing trouble as well? They climb in the windows of other New Zealanders at night. It is not only Mäori.”

And I got that from an article on http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/denial.htm

]]> By: Felix http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96887 Felix Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:57:42 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96887 Principessa that's a doozy! Got a link for it? Principessa that’s a doozy!

Got a link for it?

]]> By: Felix http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96886 Felix Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:55:39 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96886 Unfortunately Tim it is you who has thrown your toys out of the cot and refused to play. The reason is clear - you made a ridiculous claim and you're not adult enough to admit it. Why don't you go back to accusing me of being an anonymous troll like you did last week when you didn't want to own up to your ridiculous statements? Unfortunately Tim it is you who has thrown your toys out of the cot and refused to play.

The reason is clear – you made a ridiculous claim and you’re not adult enough to admit it.

Why don’t you go back to accusing me of being an anonymous troll like you did last week when you didn’t want to own up to your ridiculous statements?

]]> By: Principessa http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96884 Principessa Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:52:28 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96884 'Pacific Island people are like Maori because they cause trouble and climb through the windows of New Zealanders at night'. -Jenny Shipley. ‘Pacific Island people are like Maori because they cause trouble and climb through the windows of New Zealanders at night’.

-Jenny Shipley.

]]> By: Tim Ellis http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96880 Tim Ellis Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:46:45 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96880 No, Felix. I am treating you like a child as you are behaving like one. I am not rewarding you with a dignified debate while you act with so much disrespect. No, Felix. I am treating you like a child as you are behaving like one. I am not rewarding you with a dignified debate while you act with so much disrespect.

]]> By: Felix http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96877 Felix Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:41:22 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96877 Sorry Lynn, I respectfully defer to your programming knowledge. Sorry Lynn, I respectfully defer to your programming knowledge.

]]> By: jo zinny http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96859 jo zinny Wed, 22 Oct 2008 04:05:43 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96859 Felix, re Tim I wondered.. thanks for the assist.. re 70s give me a click for a whole lot more about then though highly relevant as you'll see to 2008.. Felix, re Tim I wondered.. thanks for the assist..

re 70s give me a click for a whole lot more about then though highly relevant as you’ll see to 2008..

]]> By: Wait, what’s the RSE? at The Standard 2.02 http://thestandard.org.nz/nats-on-pacific-workers-in-the-70s/comment-page-1/#comment-96833 Wait, what’s the RSE? at The Standard 2.02 Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:48:02 +0000 http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=3862#comment-96833 [...] we’ve reported on, given historical context to, and mocked Lockwood Smith’s racist comments about seasonal migrant workers. Now, to the [...] [...] we’ve reported on, given historical context to, and mocked Lockwood Smith’s racist comments about seasonal migrant workers. Now, to the [...]

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