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Nelson Mandela has died

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Nelson mandela

From the Guardian:

Nelson Mandela, the towering figure of Africa’s struggle for freedom and a hero to millions around the world, has died at the age of 95.

South Africa‘s first black president died after years of declining health that had caused him to withdraw from public life.

The death of Mandela will send South Africa deep into mourning and self-reflection 18 years after he led the country from racial apartheid to inclusive democracy.

But his passing will also be keenly felt by people around the world who revered Mandela as one of history’s last great statesmen, and a moral paragon comparable with Mohandas Gandhi and Martin Luther King.

It was a transcendent act of forgiveness after spending 27 years in prison, 18 of them on Robben Island, that will assure his place in history. With South Africa facing possible civil war, Mandela sought reconciliation with the white minority to build a new democracy.

He led the African National Congress (ANC) to victory in the country’s first multiracial election in 1994. Unlike other African liberation leaders who cling to power, such as Zimbabwe’s Robert Mugabe, he then voluntarily stepped down after one term.

No doubt lots will be written about him in the days to come but for me his combination of eloquence and principle made him stand out as a leader.  And his willingness to forgive held South Africa together after apartheid was toppled when chaos could have been the outcome.

The last word should be his:

I am fundamentally an optimist. Whether that comes from nature or nurture, I cannot say. Part of being optimistic is keeping one’s head pointed toward the sun, one’s feet moving forward. There were many dark moments when my faith in humanity was sorely tested, but I would not and could not give myself up to despair. That way lays defeat and death.”

158 comments on “Nelson Mandela has died”

  1. Morrissey 1

    Obama to speak at his funeral? Let’s hope his acting is more convincing than it was in this performance…..

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/jul/01/barack-obama-nelson-mandela-robben-island-video

    • happynz 1.1

      I don’t get your negativity here. Obama apparently isn’t to your liking, but what exactly from that clip ticked the wrong boxes for you?

      • Morrissey 1.1.1

        You don’t get the supreme irony of someone who is a declared enemy of Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and Julian Assange—to mention only the most celebrated—pretending to be moved when he visits the cell of a great freedom-fighter? You “don’t get” it?

  2. Ad 2

    To me at least as impressive for his endurance, courage and idealism, as for sustaining peace and civic continuity rather than bloody revolution when apartheid fell.

    To make transition the principal measure of success, rather than upheaval that most other post-colonial countries had gone through at cost of millions of African lives. A stunning leader that delivered peace.

  3. TheContrarian 3

    Having spent a lot of time in SA I can tell you there are two sides to this. Some people think the nation will mourn in unity, anothers think there’ll be carnage. I hope for the best

    • TheContrarian:

      I think people pull together in time of mourning. SA will come out of this with their heads held high.

      • TheContrarian 3.1.1

        I hope so. There was an under current that felt Mandela was what stood between an uprising of some sort.

        Anyway it’s a real pity that the party he left behind a his legacy is corrupt to the core

  4. Philj 4

    Xox
    Who or where is the next Mandela? We sure need them.

    • Arfamo 4.1

      Well a saffa friend reckons the lid will blow off the pot over there now. She says the younger activists for change and democracy want to change the way things have gone RIGHT NOW! They respect Nelson but think that he has had his day and that it is time for stronger action to redress the ills and corruption that he distracted people from seeing. She reckons his passing will be the signal that it is time for massive changes to be demanded. Time will tell I suppose.

      • swordfish 4.1.1

        “They respect Nelson but think that he has had his day…”

        Well, yeah, I mean, given that he’s just died, I think that would probably be a reasonable conclusion.

    • Martin 4.2

      he can be all of us, he can be everywhere. All that is needed is for people to have clear insight to see and the will to act.

  5. LynWiper 6

    What an amazing legacy he leaves. Thanks for closing with that particular quote Mickeysavage. Particularly encouraging for those who remain committed to improving the lives of others despite situations seeming insurmountable. To optimism and moving forward with heads pointed towards the sun. Nelson Mandela RIP.

  6. Beautiful heartfelt sincere speech by President Obama.

    • Morrissey 8.1

      Beautiful heartfelt sincere speech by President Obama.

      Rubbish. You really are the most gullible twit on this forum.

      • weka 8.1.1

        Can we please, for once, not make this about us?

        If you don’t feel a certain degree of reverence or need for care in this thread, perhaps you could take the issues to Open Mike?

        • Morrissey 8.1.1.1

          Sorry, weka [Weka is right. How about we make this post flame free - MS]

          • Will@Welly 8.1.1.1.1

            Yes, we all know Obama’s speech was prepared by a speech-writer, but as the son of a white woman and an African man, Obama would have faced a certain amount of prejudice growing up in America. As a politician in America, he would have been aware of Nelson Mandela.
            Here in New Zealand we have a leader who is going to South Africa, representing us. The guy didn’t give a fig about apartheid. “I can’t remember”, what a dip-stick!! Now listen to him – full of B.S. Key isn’t even fit to wipe the floor where the funeral will be held. A disgrace.
            Today, New Zealand lost a friend.

  7. greywarbler 10

    This seems right for Mandela. From brainyquote.

    Throughout life people will make you mad, disrespect you and treat you bad.
    Let God deal with the things they do, cause hate in your heart will consume you too.
    Will Smith

  8. fender 11

    I feel privileged to have been on this earth at the same time as this legend. R.I.P. old boy.

    • McFlock 11.1

      Yes indeed.
      Whenever I get particularly down about humanity, Mandela is on the shortlist of folks who remind me of the immense potential we have as a species.

  9. North 12

    Two types of tears in this household – tears of sadness – tears of celebration – sadness at the loss – celebration that he lived.

  10. i had the privilege of meeting him briefly (handshake/smile/shoulder-touch) at the private thank you he gave to anti-apartheid activists here in nz..at a church here in auckland..(i was there for bfm..one of the few media organisations invited..)

    ..and i have been in the presence of quite a few powerful/charismatic/leader-types in my life..

    ..(and been impressed by few..)

    ..but there have been none that filled a room with their very presence..as did mandela..

    ..phillip ure..

    • Lucky you P.Ure .Now watch Key and his National mates try and score points .Like Bolger did when Mandela paid us a visit.He forgot just how much the Nat’s under Muldoon condemned Mandela
      and the actions they took against the ant-tour demonstrators . As for Key he can’t even remember Whether he was for or against the rugby Tour.

      • yabby 13.1.1

        As for scoring political points Pink Postman can you spot the irony here???

        I am on now on the right of NZ politics, but was always actively against apartheid and have had the privilege of visiting SA many times and visiting Soweto, Mandela’s house, the Apartheid Museum and his cell at Robben Island. Regardless of one’s politics surely these can be set aside while we reflect on a man whose humility and passion for his fellow man, his strength, power for forgiveness and vision of reconciliation is undeniable. I am personally inspired and elevated as a human being to have shared the earth while he lived, admired his struggle, albeit from afar, and I am the wiser for adopting some of his principles and applying them in my life.

      • Delia 13.1.2

        Yes that is true and Muldoon was happy to see New Zealanders against apartheid abused and beaten in the streets. That is the truth of National’s fine history on apartheid in South Africa. However Muldoon at least had a position on South Africa – John Key admits he did not have one..or did he, and he thinks it may now be unfashionable and unpalatable, to say what it was.

  11. Ad 14

    It’s worth reading his full speech from the dock to get a sense of his moral development into harder shades of resistance. Eloquent and hardly a rhetorical note.

  12. Rogue Trooper 15

    “Lives of great men all remind us
    We can make our lives sublime,
    And, departing, leave behind us
    Footprints in the sands of time.”- Longfellow- A Psalm of Life

    “They’re only truly great who are truly good”. – Chapman- Revenge for Honour

    • vto 15.1

      Amen.

      RIP Mr Mandela.

      Someone who in such a natural manner set out the boundary pegs of the best we can be…

  13. greywarbler 16

    Nelson Mandela would want us to remember Steve Biko also. Steve was a student leader and followed a practice called Black Consciousness.

    Steve Biko – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Biko‎
    Stephen Bantu Biko (18 December 1946 – 12 September 1977)[3] was an anti-apartheid activist in South Africa in the 1960s and 1970s.

    This description of Steve’s end illustrates the sort of brutalised, dehumanised place that religion-
    based South Africa had become.

    How Steve Biko died | News24
    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/How-Steve-Biko-died-20120919‎
    At Walmer Police Station Steve was kept naked and manacled for 20 days before being transferred to the notorious Sanlam Building in Port Elizabeth. The security police there resented the respect Steve enjoyed from the King William’s Town security police. Stories had reached them that Steve had, in a previous stint in detention, even fought back and had punched one of the senior officers in King William’s Town, Warrant Officer Hattingh.

    When he arrived at the Sanlam Building the security police told him to remain standing. After a while he sat down. That was when one of the policemen, Captain Siebert, grabbed him and pulled him back onto his feet. A “scuffle” ensued, and true to what he had told Sonwabo Yengo, Steve would defend himself.

    On 6 September Steve sustained a massive brain haemorrhage. The cause of his death was not disputed: complications resulting from a brain injury. Steve suffered at least three brain lesions occasioned by the application of force to his head; the injury was suffered between the night of 6 September and 07:30 on 7 September.

    In their amnesty application the policemen who killed Steve tried to evade spelling out what exactly had happened in the same way that they had during the original Biko Inquest in 1977. The details are not fully known. However, they admitted that after Steve had suffered a brain injury, they still kept him in a standing position. They shackled his hands and feet to the metal grille of the cell door. The police noticed that he was speaking with a slur but would not relent and continued with their interrogation.

    Equally complicit in Steve’s murder were three doctors involved in the case, the district surgeon Dr Ivor Lang, the chief district surgeon Dr Benjamin Tucker and Dr Colin Hersch, a specialist from Port Elizabeth.

    On September 7, one day after Steve suffered the brain haemorrhage, the police called in Dr Lang. Lang could find nothing wrong with Steve, despite the fact that he found him in a daze with a badly swollen face, hands and feet.

    Instead the doctor alleged that Steve was “shamming”. Lang’s more senior colleague, Dr Benjamin Tucker, was called in for his opinion on what should be done. Tucker suggested that Steve be taken to hospital, but the police strongly objected, and Tucker subordinated his Hippocratic oath to their wishes.

    Lang, even though he was acutely aware of Steve’s condition, recommended that Steve be driven 700 kilometres to the prison hospital in Pretoria. By 10 September Steve’s condition had deteriorated alarmingly. The following day, September 11, the police put Steve in the back of a Land Rover and drove him for more than twelve hours from Port Elizabeth to Pretoria – naked, manacled and unconscious.

    On September 12 Steve Biko died, in the words of Sydney Kentridge, “a miserable and lonely death on a mat on a stone floor in a prison cell”.

    The minister of justice and the police, Jimmy Kruger, issued a statement that Biko had died from a hunger strike. Addressing a National Party Congress, Kruger proclaimed to laughter:“I am not saddened by Biko’s death and I am not mad. His death leaves me cold.” Kruger’s remark reverberated around the world.

  14. CnrJoe 17

    in the 80′s this was always a highlight of an evening dancing

    and what made me cry today to watch him dance towards the end of the song

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGS7SpI7obY

    its Jonny Clegg and Savuka with Mandela

  15. vto 18

    weka said above to try and not make this about us, which is right, but if I might diverge and run against the grain…..

    wtf is Key doing representing us on this.. John Key says that he cannot remember his position during the ’81 Springbok tour …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    extremes beget extremes

    • freedom 18.1

      Yup, even today, as the world mourns one of its greatest, Key’s ego is in full effect :(

      “I think it’s appropriate that, given the stature of such an incredible man and his deeds and achievements, that New Zealand should be represented by myself.” – Stuff
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9485534/Mandela-mourned-by-Kiwis

      • amirite 18.1.1

        I can’t even

      • gobsmacked 18.1.2

        To our Prime Minister:

        I do not vote for your party, but I – and probably many more – will respect you if you can do what your friend David Cameron did in Britain, years ago …

        http://conservativehome.blogs.com/torydiary/images/theobserver_1.gif

        That would be a true tribute to Nelson Mandela.

      • Richard McGrath 18.1.3

        I think Key means NZ should be represented by the Prime Minister of the day, not by John Phillip Key.

        I respected Mandela for his restraint and moderation after taking power in South Africa. From a background as a political agitator in league with the local Communists, and with the ANC who took lessons in bombing from the IRA, and in interrogation from those nice humanitarians in the East German Stasi.

        And before anyone gets their panties in a lather, the above information came from:
        http://www.trevorloudon.com/2013/12/mandelas-passing-lets-not-deceive-ourselves/

        Unlike Key, I clearly remember where I stood in 1981. I had no time for the vandals and anarchists from the anti-tour faction who rejoiced in property destruction. While respecting the right of people to protest, I supported the Springbok tour and went to the Otago game. New Zealand had, earlier in the year, played Romania at rugby and I can’t recall protestors flooding the streets in disgust with the Ceaucescu dictatorship. I opposed the multi-nation boycott of the 1980 Moscow Olympics as I believe in freedom of association and was annoyed that athletes had had their careers affected by grandstanding politicians.

        Back to Mandela – the world has lost a great man, an icon. We will never see his like again. He makes President Zero look very ordinary indeed (which he is). I’ll raise a glass to him tonight.

        • Anne 18.1.3.1

          Just a point of clarification Richard McGrath:

          The vast majority of anti-apartheid protesters who went on those marches in 1981 were NOT vandals and anarchists. Indeed they were equally condemning of the bad behaviour and wanton property destruction. The problem at the time was that you and your pro-tour ilk attempted to paint all protesters as irresponsible vandals when the actual perpetrators could be numbered only in the dozens on each occasion. A misconception that was happily advanced by the police at the time resulting in serious physical harm to many innocent people.

          More than 30 years later and the police have still not said sorry to those victims.

          • Richard McGrath 18.1.3.1.1

            Actually, Anne, I have never said that the vandals and nihilists that were part of the anti-tour movement formed the majority or even a substantial part of that movement. But it must be conceded that there was property destruction and violence emanating from people on the anti-tour side of the fence. Please don’t generalise about pro-tour New Zealanders, just as I haven’t about anti-tour New Zealanders.

            • Colonial Viper 18.1.3.1.1.1

              There were also a lot of smashed faces and injuries caused by peeps on the pro-tour side of the system. For you to take the high ground over a few dollars worth of busted property would be typical, however. But thus is the nature of civil resistance, do you not understand?

            • Anne 18.1.3.1.1.2

              Please don’t generalise about pro-tour New Zealanders, just as I haven’t about anti-tour New Zealanders.

              Well, you certainly intimated as much by what you did say.

              How come just about every pro-tour person I knew… or heard on radio/television made a huge meal out of the property destruction etc. that took place, but conveniently ignored the far greater violence carried out by the police against many of the protestors?

              You will never admit it, but there was far more violence coming from pro-tour factions than there was from the protestors. Institutional or establishment violence is always seen as OK by political conservatives like yourself, but guess what… its no more okay than it is from the other side of the ledger.

              • Anne

                To back up my claim there was more violence on the pro tour side of the ledger…

                http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11169041

                ” I think that all those New Zealanders who got bashed by police, who got beaten up by pro-tour thugs and who went to hospital, who went to jail, and even the 12 brave people who marched in Nelson in 1981 – all those people can take real credit for the fact that in the darkest days of apartheid, little old New Zealand was able to punch a hole in the system and let some light through,” Mr Minto said.

              • Richard McGrath

                Don’t forget, the police were not part of the pro-tour faction, they were there to maintain law and order. When people start smashing the property of others, the police force’s job is to prevent further destruction and to arrest the perpetrators. As CV has commented, that’s the nature of civil resistance, do you not understand?

                • McFlock

                  Yes, clowns should be hit in the head with metal pipes (sorry, “batons”) to protect property.

                  • Richard McGrath

                    I think you need some context re what the clowns were doing. If they were violating the rights of other New Zealanders, then the police have a duty to bring any alleged perpetrators to justice (i.e. before a court) using an appropriate level of force. If said clowns are expressing themselves in ways that don’t hurt other people or their property, then there is no reason for the police to assault them with batons or in any other way.

                    I’m not altogether sure whether your comment meant people should not be brought to account for breaching the property rights of other people, or that police should not use inappropriate levels of retaliatory force in apprehending alleged criminals. I will assume the latter.

                    • mickysavage

                      So how much knowledge do you have about what the clowns were doing Richard? Knock yourself out. Detail everything that you know about their activities that day.

                    • McFlock

                      assume what you want, bucko.

                      The fact is that you keep mentioning “hurting people” and “hurting property” in the same breath as legitimate reasons to hit someone repeatedly with a metal bar. I reckon your perception might be a bit off.

                      Besides, you blather as if either people or property were in danger when the cops started hitting protestors. Mind you, the protestors were in the street, so next you’ll be saying that it’s okay to club people for jaywalking.

                    • Richard McGrath

                      [Off topic - MS]

                    • McFlock

                      [edit] gah my bad, sorry forgot the post topic. I’m a dick

                      [No problems, we all get trapped in these sorts of arguments - MS]

                • Anne

                  Had the misfortune to be associated with your kind before RM. How about you shove off and take your supercilious (everybody, I am just so superior) and arrogant attitude with you.

                • greywarbler

                  The Simpsons cartoons could be spot on for dialogue and situations. This matches the police attitude encouraged in the OTT display of authority to the anti- tour protesters.

                  They came to let Bart ride with them. Homer lets Bart go. “Maybe this’ll
                  straighten the boy out.”
                  Bart: Wow! Can I see your club?
                  Cop: It’s called a baton, son.
                  Bart: Oh. What’s it for?
                  Cop: We club people with it.
                  — Just conduct yourself properly and nobody gets hurt.

                  “Well, it’s about time!” notes the across-the-street neighbor as she
                  watches the two cops taking Bart away.
                  Bart: So, you guys like being cops?
                  Cop: Oh, it’s great. You get to run red lights, park wherever you please,
                  hot and cold running chicks…
                  — The perquisites of power,

                  It would be funny if it only occurred in cartoons.

              • swordfish

                Spot on, Anne.

                Very little violence from the anti-Tour side until the final Test in Auckland (and, even then, only from a relatively small element surrounding the gangs). In stark contrast, violence from the Police and Tour supporters was brutal and systematic throughout July, August and early September.

                At the age of 17, I marched during the Second Test in Wellington. It was only through a stroke of luck that I missed being layed into with batons by the Red/Blue squads. Many ordinary citizens – including late-middle-age women, for instance – were violently assaulted by the Police that day.

                Then once the game was over, as we headed back to central Wellington, the Blue Squad allowed the mass of the rugby crowd to move in ahead of us and hurl a rain of broken-beer-bottle-missiles down on protesters, including women, the elderly and children (many of whom, like me, were not protected by crash helmets).

                Both the police and the pro-Tour brigade came across as self-righteous thugs, doing God’s work by beating the flying shit out of protesters.

                • Anne

                  Thanks swordfish.

                  I watched with horror as the Red Squad (I presume) laid into a group of protestors at the final test match in Auckland. I saw several being assisted away with bloodied heads and in one instance blood pouring out of his ear. It so shocked me to see the police behaving like that I quickly departed the scene shaking like a leaf. I might add they looked like decent young men – probably students – and I did not see any of them acting violently in the lead up minutes to the attack. Doing a lot of shouting perhaps but that was all…

                  • mickysavage

                    Yep my father witnessed the clown bashing. He still shakes his head today about what happened. Despite his recording the number of one of the police officers involved no officer was ever penalised although the police were successfully sued by the clowns.

                    And that afternoon was one of the most interesting afternoons of my life …

                  • swordfish

                    Cheers, Anne.

                    I should, though, slightly correct John Minto (in the quote you’ve given).

                    When Minto mentions “… the 12 brave people who marched in Nelson in 1981…”, he’s obviously confusing that city with the notorious incident in the little Taranaki town of Eltham, where 12 lone protesters were set upon by what appeared to be the whole town. Nelson, by contrast, was quite a hive of anti-Tour activity, with polls suggesting it was one of the great strongholds of anti-Tour sentiment in the Country.

                • Richard McGrath

                  Can we agree that there were individuals in both the pro-tour and anti-tour factions, and the police, who were less than angelic, and leave it there?

              • Richard McGrath

                I’m afraid you’re wrong there, Anne. Violence is unacceptable from whatever source. Libertarians include in that statement violence by the state against the smallest minority, the individual.

                I can’t be sure where most of the violence in 1981 emanated from, but it was ugly and unforgettable.

                • lprent

                  In my case the only violence I saw was from a police baton thumping me after a rather boring few hours at the third test. I also saw the aftermath when some drunk rugby supporters in Hamilton decided to attack a student halls after the game got cancelled there.

                  There was quite a lot of padding put on after the first times that the police decided that a good batoning was all that citizens needed to stop protesting. Didn’t use it myself.

                  And I heard a lot of pathetic dickheads like yourself trying to tell me that I shouldn’t be allowed to express my distaste for those in NZ who were supporting a arsehole regime in South Africa. But that was mostly from fools watching TV selectively reporting the exciting bits.

                  • Richard McGrath

                    I’ve repeatedly tried to make it clear I support the right of people to protest peacefully, which you appear to have deliberately ignored. And supporting individual rights in New Zealand does not equate with opposing them in South Africa, not that you would ever acknowledge that.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      Treating your odious dogma with ridicule and contempt is a direct attack on your freedom of speech I expect, and means we’re all fascists.

                      Somewhere, there’s a violin small enough to play that tune.

                    • Arfamo

                      @ OAK :)

                    • lprent

                      Hell I protested peacefully. Got batoned for it in Auckland apparently by a police officer who was on duty in Christchurch – at least that was what the police complaints said that was where that badge number was that day.

                      Your tone throughout the discussion here has come across that the act of peacefully protesting is an incitement for others to act violently. Why? Just as an observation – you haven’t mentioned a single thing that indicates that you have *any* actual personal knowledge of any case where protesting has been violent. You’d just going on your gut feelings that have no basis apart from a simple bigotry.

                      I haven’t seen protesters indulging in violence during almost any of the innumerable protests I’ve been in (the exception being the Queen Street one in the early 80′s that I got caught in). What I have seen a lot of is genteel dickheads like yourself (and Jock Anderson) excusing the idiot rugby supporters spitting and throwing things, walking over peoples properties, police indulging themselves with batons, arrests of silly charges, etc etc. I’ve also seen probably 95% of all charges laid against protesters completely fail in the courts. Meanwhile

                      Meanwhile morons like yourself keep saying the same stupid things over and over again… For instance.

                      If said clowns are expressing themselves in ways that don’t hurt other people or their property, then there is no reason for the police to assault them with batons or in any other way.

                      Any half-literate person can look up and find out exactly what those clowns were doing on that day. You don’t have to speculate.

                      They were standing on the side of the road making a mockery as a statement. That included of the police. You can find video footage in the links on the right of this site. You can find journalists who made statements. You can find histories detailing their every move on that day. Presumably the mockery was why the police batoned the crap out of them – just as they did to me and everyone else on that street that day.

                      It takes a particular kind of pompous git to so blithely pontificate and comment on things that are so easy to look up. So with all of your theoretical wankery, I guess you’ll have a problem understanding the contempt for you that the people who have been doing crap for social and political change forever have for your pious waffle.

                      I’m tired of all you bods being nice to this fool.

            • Arfamo 18.1.3.1.1.3

              Please don’t generalise about pro-tour New Zealanders, just as I haven’t about anti-tour New Zealanders.

              Yes you did, you just did it very subtly. There was no need to mention “the vandals and anarchists from the anti-tour faction who rejoiced in property destruction” to make the point you say you wanted to make. It’s called dog-whistling I believe.

              • Richard McGrath

                [Last chance oh libertarian party one - MS]

                • Richard McGrath

                  MS – thanks for acknowledging that I am libertarian; someone on this thread labelled me a conservative. Heaven forbid.

        • greywarbler 18.1.3.2

          Richard McGrath
          NZ protesters didn’t come out against Romania. You thought they should as people (not you) should sacrifice their time and lives fighting all the wrongs in the world, and risk injury and loss of jobs and living plus the time and cash required to participate.

          While you sit back and from your rational elevated perspective gaze on the spectacle and critique it from an aesthetic, ethical and legal viewpoint. Not only a padded fence sitter, and unwilling to make any sacrifices of your favourite things, you consider yourself superior to those moral protesters.

          You ‘believe in freedom of association’ and you were annoyed that athletes couldn’t do what they wanted in the 1980 Moscow Olympics, ie to compete for their nation and achieve personal and national honour.

          When the nation decided it was the right political thing not to compete, that was for the nation to decide, not the athletes who perform as their nation’s citizens. It is good you agree with freedom of association – most of the anti-tour protesters would not wish to be forced to mix with you

          • Richard McGrath 18.1.3.2.1

            Greywarbler, firstly the grammatical style of your post makes parts of it difficult to understand.

            You seem to have misread what I said – I thought anyone concerned with breaches of civil rights in South Africa might also be concerned with civil rights violations in Romania.

            [This is meant to be a flame free discussion Richard. And it is a left wing blog so expecting people to agree with a far right view of the world is a real stretch. Please moderate your comments and leave out the communist theory stuff - MS]

            • Pascal's bookie 18.1.3.2.1.1

              Or maybe the iron curtain and the fact of the cold war meant that protest action was kind of futile.

              SA was under a fairly widespread sporting boycott, which the tour was breaching, that could be a part of it too. Context is kind of important Richard.

              But if we are talking about consistency, I’ll just note that you didn’t care to highlight the organised state violence against persons involved in tour protests, seemingly more concerned about violence against property.

              But I suppose that’s perhaps a blind spot of your libertarianism, I’ve noticed before that with regard to SA under apartheid so called libertarians seemed more concerned about potential ‘communism’ than the actual existing deprivations of rights.

              And I suppose that’s just a coincidence with the history libertarians have in the US of supporting, and seeking support from, those who try to rewrite the history of that country’s civil war.

              And while Loudon may or may not be racist, he is most certainly a swivel eyed loon, as anyone familiar with either his history or work can attest. I understand he is making a living on the US loon circuit these days pimping birther theories and the like to the right wing’s more gullible credit cards holders.

              • Richard McGrath

                PB, for the record I absolutely support the right of people to protest peacefully, and abhor violence by agents of the state against peaceful people. Nowhere have I come out in support of indiscriminate violence by the police against civilians, so I’m afraid your conclusions are rather ill-founded. I notice with some disappointment and surprise that your apparent ad hominem attack on Trevor Loudon stands unchallenged by the moderator, but that is his/her prerogative.

                • Pascal's bookie

                  “Nowhere have I come out in support of indiscriminate violence by the police against civilians”

                  I never said you would be so foolish, I merely noted that that aspect was missing from your telling.

                  Just as you noted that people didn’t mention Romania. I also provided reasons why there were no protests against Romania. primarily because there was no equivalent of the Glenn Eagles agreement in play. We had signed this agreement and the tour was a clear breach of it. Context, Richard.

                  My observations are not conclusions, they are observations.

                  And anyone can check Loudon’s output. It’s a matter of public record. calling him a swivel eyed loon is an attack on that work. It may be an ad hom attack, but it is not an ad hom argument:

                  1) Bizarre conspiratorial work is produced by people who can fairly be described as swivel eyed loons.
                  2) Members of sects too out there for the Scientologists can fairly be described as swivel eyed loons.
                  3) Loudon produces Bizarre conspiratorial work and is a member of a sect too out there for the Scientologists.

                  ergo

                  4) Loudon is a swivel eyed loon. (1,2,3 via modus ponens).

                  note that there is nothing actually wrong with being a swivel eyed loon. Let a thousand lunacies bloom. But quoting them as authorities is an exercise in freedom of association that comes with consequences to one’s own credibility.

            • Richard McGrath 18.1.3.2.1.2

              MS, I accept your decision as moderator (I support private but not public censorship) but am disappointed not to be able to advance arguments that might allow me to then read responses which could challenge my political standpoint and force me to re-examine my premises and assumptions. I do, however, feel that your refusal to allow dissenting comments leaves this blog open to accusations (often made about other blogs) that it is an “echo chamber” for a particular political point of view. I enjoy political debate, but can see that The Standard is not a forum for debate. I thank you for publishing the comments that did pass moderation. I regret “flaming” anyone; if I did this was unintentional, as I meant to play the ball and not the man so to speak.

              • Pascal's bookie

                Before you martyr yourself, this is nonsense:

                ” I do, however, feel that your refusal to allow dissenting comments leaves this blog open to accusations (often made about other blogs) that it is an “echo chamber” for a particular political point of view. I enjoy political debate, but can see that The Standard is not a forum for debate. I thank you for publishing the comments that did pass moderation. I regret “flaming” anyone; if I did this was unintentional, as I meant to play the ball and not the man so to speak.”

                there is no refusal to allow dissenting voices here, as can be seen on any given thread. You’ll note that most of those other blogs who claim that about the standard are far more monolithic in their own comment sections, with the debate that is to be had mostly revolving around biblical interpretation, who hates Muslims the most, National party tactics, or a rehash of climate science had between the same people everytime.

                As for you playing the ball, you suggested that people didn’t protest against Romania because they had sympathy for communism. That is almost a text book definition of playing the man not the ball, and it is what you were called out on by the mod.

        • Murray Olsen 18.1.3.3

          Nelson Mandela was possibly the greatest and most noble human being who I am aware of during my lifetime.
          Trevor Loudon is not worthy of Madiba’s navel lint, nor his toe jam. Why, in a thread in homage to Madiba, are we inflicted with the ravings of the lunatic fringe? Loudon is a racist moron who found a home with the vilest elements of the American TeaBaggers. What are his filthy words doing here, despoiling this solemn occasion?

          • Richard McGrath 18.1.3.3.1

            Which parts of Trevor Loudon’s commentary do you find “filthy”, “vile”, and please cite evidence of his racism – a serious charge. Please provide links to racist statements from Mr Loudon, or withdraw and apologise. Put up or shut up.

            Mr Lprent, why are you not moderating Mr Olsen’s unsubstantiated utterances?

            [Unsubstiantiated and extreme right wing views will be moderated - MS]

            • Colonial Viper 18.1.3.3.1.1

              Richard McGrath, is this your blog? No? Why are you telling lprent how to do his job then?

              • Richard McGrath

                Please read my comments again, Mr/Ms Viper. I am not telling the owner of this blog anything; I am asking him a question in the hope that like me, others will expected to back up their claims by way of a reference. Your indignant tone is completely unnecessary at this point. Please stick to the subject of Nelson Mandela, as you do appear to be taking this thread elsewhere with your comments above.

            • Richard McGrath 18.1.3.3.1.2

              Just for interest’s sake, MS – will extreme left-wing views be tolerated?

              [You occupy a strange world where there are extremists to the left and right and some mythical correct position in the middle. Your trumpeting that Mandela was a communist is an example of this, as is your misinformed claim that protestors against the Springbok tour were law breakers and property damagers. I corrected Morrissey and he accepted it. I would invite you to do the same - MS]

              • Richard McGrath

                MS – thanks for your comments. I guess there are various ways of representing differing political points of view and agree with you that a two-dimensional line is an inadequate paradigm. The three dimensional left-right and authoritarian-libertarian plane allows more accurate representation of the overall flavour of an individual or political party. But I feel I must point out that it was in fact you that used the phrase “extreme right wing views”, implying (to me anyway) that far away lurked a number of extreme left wing views.

                I’m not sure I ever claimed Mandela was a communist (though some people do make this claim, and I’m aware that Mandela rejected this assertion) – there is little doubt, however that the ANC and SACP were very close in their objectives and there was a fair degree of co-operation between the two organisations. To claim that ALL anti-tour protestors were violent thugs would be ludicrous, as a comment I made (unfortunately censored out) tried to illustrate.

            • Murray Olsen 18.1.3.3.1.3

              I find all parts of Loudon’s commentaries filthy and vile. As for racism, I doubt that there is a definition that you and I could agree on, so I can’t be bothered providing links. You wouldn’t recognise the racism in them, although you possibly think Te Tiriti imposes apartheid on our society and Maori seats are racist. It’d be like discussing quantum mechanics with someone who had never read anything but Harry Potter.

    • expatriot 18.2

      This Guardian article from June sums up both the Tory’s in Britain and, by proxy, the Nats here: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/26/remember-tories-nelson-mandela-apartheid

      As per Philip Matthews on Twitter (copied from Bryce Edwards at http://t.co/buPL0JFuBP):

      Philip Matthews (‏@secondzeit):

      How many current NZ politicians supported the 1981 Springbok Tour? Gerry Brownlee was one. I interviewed him in 2009. He said “I supported the tour. I have to say that towards the end of that tour I was of a view that perhaps it wasn’t worth the effort. But you can’t give in to the mobsters who went from one end of the country to the other wreaking havoc. There are a lot of people who try to justify what I consider to be totally irrational behaviour by saying this was a seminal moment in New Zealand history and they were part of it. It’s absolute garbage.” (Brownlee, 2009)

      • Murray Olsen 18.2.1

        “But you can’t give in to the mobsters who went from one end of the country to the other wreaking havoc.”

        Does this mean Gerry Brownlee wanted to see the Red Squad prosecuted for their assaults? Or is he talking about the NZRFU?

  16. amirite 19

    Nelson Mandela becomes the first politician to be missed

    http://bit.do/eLbQ

    • ghostrider888 19.1

      tear-promoting link

    • Morrissey 19.2

      Nelson Mandela becomes the first politician to be missed

      Wrong. Another massively popular democratic hero died in March—Hugo Chávez. Although, like Mandela, he was vilified and scorned by leading politicians in the United States, the United Kingdom and the rest of the gang, including—to our shame—New Zealand.

      I wonder if Jim Mora and his guests are going to snicker and guffaw about Mandela like they did after Chávez’s death.

      • Rogue Trooper 19.2.1

        attention to differentiation; helpful with diagnosis.

        • Morrissey 19.2.1.1

          The only differentiation here is that Mandela was no longer an official US/UK target—the U.S. still classified him as a “terrorist” until a few years ago. If he was still an officially sanctioned target, you could guarantee that Mora and his guests would be chortling and guffawing and trying to outdo each other in cracking irreverent jokes about him, just as they did on the day Hugo Chávez died.

          • fender 19.2.1.1.1

            Did you read it Morrissey?
            This sums up the reasoning behind the statement: ” “Certainly people have felt a sense of sorrow at the deaths of politicians in the past, but Nelson Mandela’s death is the only one on record that people everywhere unanimously agree has left the world notably worse off. I miss him, we all miss him—and that’s entirely unprecedented in the world of politics.”

          • greywarbler 19.2.1.1.2

            You have already been asked to stick to Mandela Morrissey, I brought up another black South African. Let’s stick to thinking about South Africa and its freedom from aparthheid, not South America. Two different places! One particular man and his time is what it’s about.

      • Richard McGrath 19.2.2

        Morrissey I think some of the vilification of Chavez following his demise may have been

        [Richard - please read my note above. This is meant to be a respectful discussion about Nelson Mandela's life and attempts to sideline it into arguments about South America or anywhere else in the world is off topic and will not be accepted - MS]

        • Richard McGrath 19.2.2.1

          Sorry – I assumed that because Morrissey was permitted to post comments re Chavez, that some latitude was being given re the subject matter of the thread. Clearly not, and I will confine further comments to the subject of Nelson Mandela’s life and death. Morrissey’s comments above comparing an entity such as Hugo Chavez to Nelson Mandela will therefore have to sit unchallenged. I accept your call on this.

    • Richard McGrath 19.3

      “Nelson Mandela becomes the first politician to be missed”

      I have to disagree – what about Michael Joseph Savage?

  17. Rosie 20

    Thank you Mickey. The quote was beautiful and perfect, I have some tears.

    Much respect.

    RIP Great Man.

  18. Tracey 21

    Title:
    I am prepared to die
    Sub-title:
    Nelson Mandela’s statement from the dock at the opening of the defence case in the Rivonia Trial

    http://db.nelsonmandela.org/speeches/pub_view.asp?pg=item&ItemID=NMS010&txtstr=1963

    I put him ahead of Martin Luther King, as seemingly a genuinely selfess leader. They are rare indeed.

    being appointed leader is not the same as being a leader. We do not need look farther than Mandela and our own country to see this.

    Includes

    “I have fought against white domination, and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons will live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal for which I hope to live for and to see realised. But, My Lord, if it needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die.”

  19. Tracey 22

    will any journo have the balls to re-ask key where he stood on the 81 tour?

    “* “Like slavery and apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is people who have made poverty and tolerated poverty, and it is people who will overcome it. And overcoming poverty is not a gesture of charity. It is an act of justice. It is the protection of a fundamental human right, the right to dignity and a decent life” – Ambassador of Conscience Award Acceptance Speech, November 01, 2006″

    • Richard McGrath 22.1

      Not sure I agree that “poverty is not natural”. For any individual, good health, nutrition and the acquisition of material wealth require purposeful work, i.e. effort on the part of each individual (or someone on their behalf) to accumulate the means to address issues of hunger, poverty and disease.

      Poverty is the default position of every person unless he/she or someone else makes an effort to alleviate it.

  20. North 24

    There is something seminally wrong about the great photo-opper Key representing this Kiwi (and every other Kiwi of course) at Nelson Mandela’s funeral. There must be hundreds on hundreds of thousands who know that Key lies when he says he can’t recall about what he was thinking in ’81.

    Worse when accordingly we just know what he was thinking when the psychotic Thatcher denounced Nelson Mandela as a terrorist.

    I’ll be mollified somewhat when he takes John Minto with him. Formally announced as an official representative of Aotearoa New Zealand.

    Now that WOULD be honouring Nelson Mandela !!!

    • LynWiper 24.1

      +1 I like this suggestion North.

    • ScottGN 24.2

      John Minto to represent Aotearoa NZ would be my pick too.

    • Murray Olsen 24.3

      One way to honour Madiba and his spirit of forgiveness and reconciliation would be to send John Minto and Ross Meurant as representatives. Key should not go at all. If he couldn’t make it to the next country for Hugo Chavez, why should we pay for him to travel half way across the world for Mandela?

      • greywarbler 24.3.1

        MO
        It seems that Ross Meurant has gnme through some great changes. He has been affected too by the Mandela magic. Good idea about him and John Minto. But no. It will be useful for Key to rub shoulders with other nations reps and possibly he’ll look at his soul but is more likely to hope for a diamond on the sole of his shoe.

  21. Maybe we can honor Nelson Mandela by having two threads, one thread for genuine posts honoring the man, and one to take political pot shots at people you dont like.

    • North 25.1

      I’ve taken no pot-shots at you Brett Dale.

      And I certainly don’t like you.

      Bad case of projection there BD.

      You are SO mealy-mouthed John Key.

      Fuck off with your well thumbed Crosby Textor manual !

      You needn’t bother coming back with war stories.

      ‘Bout what YOU did in 1981.

      Makes no diff’.

      You’re the solemn John Key

      And pompous

      All wrapped up

      In one

      Mind own biz’.

    • gobsmacked 25.2

      How should we honour the man, Brett? By pretending he was non-political? Just a nice old fellow, who everyone loved.

      Your comment is the 2013 equivalent of “Sport and Politics don’t mix”. If you believe that, you need to read Nelson.

      • Morrissey 25.2.1

        He does not read anything, gobsmacked. Isn’t that obvious?

      • Brett Dale 25.2.2

        GobSmacked:

        Honor the man by mentioning his achievements and what he did for the world. Perhaps Open Mike is the best place to mention the politicians and the people who didnt stand for what he stood for.

        • North 25.2.2.1

          Open Mike ? Why ? To comment re Thatcher and others who screamed “Terrorist !” fails to honour ? Is disrespectful ?

          Good wishes for Sunday sermon in that rural Dutch-named church, Vicar Afrikaaner.

          Why the fuck should I oblige you pompous one ? When to do so would be to miss the man and play ritualistic little sympathy card games. And allow you to “play”. Go away !

    • North 25.3

      PS Brett Dale – surely you understand that Thatcher was a vivid portrayal of everything Nelson Mandela stood seminally hard against ?

      Mention of Thatcher and John Key’s thinking in 1981 is indispensable to remind that Nelson Mandela was if not the greatest then certainly amongst a handful few of the greatest of the 20th century.

      Waddya want ? A thread full of sympathy cards and lilies and John Key Solemn on TV3 News few hours ago ?

      With a dead straight face telling us he had “a quite intimate relationship” with Nelson Mandela. Little Churchil smells aircraft fuel and foreign air and rears his fucked little head again !

      I do honour Nelson Mandela. I’m not sure you truly do.

      • Richard McGrath 25.3.1

        Please elaborate on your interesting claim that essentially reads that Thatcher was the antithesis of Mandela.

  22. Again RIP Nelson Mandela, you had Dignity.

    • North 26.1

      Ha, you don’t respond except to paint a caraciture of yourself as an unctuous vicar believing he drips with dignity fulsomely delivering condolences. But ya still support all the stuff Nelson Mandela stood hard against. Piss off fool. This is no more than a royal wedding in the true hearts of you and John Key.

      How could you purport to honour Nelson Mandela from a twisted right-wing mindset ?

      [OK Flame wars can happen over at http://thestandard.org.nz/hypocrisy-watch/ Because of the subject matter of this post I expect the discussion to be civil although I agree that Key's particular episode of amnesia is a relevant topic of discussion - MS]

      • Brett Dale 26.1.1

        North:

        I was a kid but i protested against the 81 tour.

        I was against the Iraq war.

        Please provide an example of me standing for things that Mandela was against.

      • Brett Dale 26.1.2

        North:

        Pro Choice
        Pro Gay Marriage
        Anti Iraq War
        Believe in man made climate change
        Pro anti Nuclear stance
        Believe everybody should have the right to join a union.
        Believe the minimum wage should be higher.

        Al the Americans I admire are all democrats, so how am
        I right wing?

        • North 26.1.2.1

          Noted your bold at 26.1 above MS. Fair enough. One final thing. Don’t think my soul has no sense for de Klerke.

          [May he rot in hell! - MS]

          • Morrissey 26.1.2.1.1

            Mickey, with the greatest of respect, why is your comment about de Klerk—”May he rot in hell!”—acceptable on this thread, which yesterday you insisted was not for anything other than “respectful comments”? You peremptorily excised three of my posts on this thread yesterday; not one of them was as disrespectful or inflammatory as your “rot in hell” quip.

  23. mac1 27

    When my father died my older brothers gave me the chance to give the eulogy at his funeral. One of the things that brought me closer to my father was his chance comment that Mandela was a great man. My father has never discussed apartheid or South Africa in any way that gave an inkling of his regard for Nelson Mandela. I was quite surprised.

    In the eulogy, I spoke of this admiration and echoed the words of one of the psalms where ‘deep calls to deep’- that is, the depth of Mandela’s humanity spoke to that same depth within my father, a depth which we all enjoy and which prickles my eyes now when I think of both my father and the father of the South African nation, Nelson Mandela.

    That is why I will honour any positive comment about Mandela from Obama, or Key or any other on this blog. Whilst the depth of Mandela’s spirit and character speaks to any of these people, even if we might disagree with what they believe or stand for, it does reflect our common humanity and gives hope that such people might too encompass more of that humanity and that spirit of compassion and peace.

    That I hope is Mandela’s legacy- deep calling to deep.

  24. Anne 28

    At the beginning of the last but one millennium there was a gentleman called Jesus of Nazareth. He stood up for the poor and dispossessed and was loved by his people who regarded him as their saviour. At the beginning of a new millennium there is another gentleman called Nelson Mandela. He stood up for the poor and dispossessed and is loved by his people who regard him as their saviour.

  25. rhinocrates 29

    I can’t say that I’m mourning, exactly, because I’m not shocked… He was a great man, he did great things… and he was very old and unwell, so this was inevitable.

    I think that what I feel is a kind of amazement that I saw history unfold, that I saw the life of a great man.

    Everyone dies, but Nelson Mandela lived a long and good life, became and exemplar and saw his triumph in his own time – which is very rare. Fate rewarded him.

    We should not be sad that he has at last died, but thankful that he lived so well.

  26. TheContrarian 30

    The leader of the DA (Democratic Alliance) Lindiwe Mazibuko, is South Africa’s only true opposition party. Here she is on HardTalk – South Africa’s future is not with the ANC, but with the youth…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HurIWg2VwRQ

  27. Outofbed 31

    no point in Key going to the funeral as he wouldn’t be able to recall if he went or not

  28. Morrissey 32

    BBC obituaries for Hugo Chavez and Nelson Mandela

    A perfect salvo of BBC propaganda, the hero gets slated and the good friend of global capital eulogised.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22892784

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13928049

    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1386366295.html

  29. Rogue Trooper 33

    “…he accepted that fate had decreed he be a servant of the people…”
    -John Armstrong.
    ( The Herald )

    • rhinocrates 33.1

      Oh fucking Hell, Armstrong once again jerking off about how he was thiiiiiis close to someone IMPORTANT. Give me a break.

  30. greywarbler 34

    What a man Mandela was. All that struggling, the oppression of the black people, the lies, discrimination and violence of the majority in power yet he and all the others persevered. The ANC kept on with their plan for betterment despite many differing personalities and opinions. The differing opinions arose just as on this thread with some straying from concentrating on Mandela, South Africa and what NZ did to advance his cause and all South African black people.

    He was a unifying symbol working along with those who brought into being the Truth and Reconciliation approach to lance the boil of the legacy of poison made up of hate and anger and vicious defiance of the mainly white forces of power, torture and oppression.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission_(South_Africa)
    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/Mandelas-precious-legacy-saluted—234738431.html

    The transition to a mixed race democracy was done with a minimum of violence. The crime rate rose as the never-had aspired to be the haves. That was inevitable. But the beautiful music that always came from South Africa celebrates the good that has come. The music endures and Mandela enabled it to become a celebration of happiness, and hope for better things. Sing sweetly, sing joyfully for Mandela and all the fighters and seekers for a positive future.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP9bYfsbTU4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGPuKwj0GNI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pVzWtkKZ-I
    Ladysmith http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkRWNrfXJaQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCa4SfyY42Y&list=PL28915B84D8213941&index=5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooHsKZJqpT0

  31. I have been privileged to have lived at the same time as two of the worlds greatest men/

    • Gandhi and Mandela .Will there be another man or woman like these two before I go?

      • Colonial Viper 35.1.1

        Don’t forget MLK. And perhaps the Dalai Lama. It’s not many.

        Edward Snowden reminds us that there are bright stars amongst the younger generation too.

      • greywarbler 35.1.2

        Would the long nightwatch on democracy in Burma give Aung San Suu Kyi that distinction?

  32. The introduction of neo-liberal reforms by the ANC, created, as they have in New Zealand and every other country that has gone down that path – ‘economic apartheid’ ie: ‘war on the poor’.

    For your consideration – another view – from South Africa.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/mandela-led-fight-against-apartheid-but-not-against-extreme-inequality/5360540?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=mandela-led-fight-against-apartheid-but-not-against-extreme-inequality

    Patrick Bond is the Director of the Center for Civil Society and Professor at the University of KwaZulu-Natal in South Africa. Bond is the author and editor of the recently released books, Politics of Climate Justice and Durban’s Climate Gamble.

    “Mandela deserves great credit for ending racial apartheid in South Africa, but his legacy includes the continuation of mass poverty

    ‘The mood here in South Africa is terribly somber.

    This was the day that everyone knew would come. And in the last few months Mandela’s been in hospital four times.

    But it’s hard to come to grips with the loss of someone who has ruled in a moral and spiritual way just as much as in a political way in his first five years as the president of the Democratic South Africa in 1994 to ’99.”

    Penny Bright
    1981 Springbok Tour protestor

  33. Papa Tuanuku 37

    not remembering 1981 would be like not remembering your 21st or your wedding. everyone old enough to remember 1981 will remember the vibes of division. anyone that can’t say where they stood is lying.

    • Richard McGrath 37.1

      I agree, and think it’s bizarre that Key either can’t remember or didn’t form an opinion at the time.

      • Arfamo 37.1.1

        It’s not bizarre, it simply lacks any credibility at all.

        • Richard McGrath 37.1.1.1

          It is bizarre AND lacks credibility!

          • Arfamo 37.1.1.1.1

            It’s not bizarre. It’s too typical of Key to be bizarre. He obviously perceives revealing his view to be a threat from either side of the argument so has a brain fade. Standard Operating Procedure for Key when faced with a question the honest answer to which could be a problem.

          • felix 37.1.1.1.2

            “It is bizarre AND lacks credibility!”

            Indeed Richard, I think the bizarre part is that he thought “I don’t remember” was a credible answer.

  34. greywarbler 38

    R McGrath has had about 25 comments on this thread of 142. A sizable amount and it is interesting that his little nit-picking brain regards a thread mainly devoted to commemorating Mandela as an opportunity to spread his lacklustre view of the world. Interested in the tales of protesters trying to overcome aparthheid and celebrating that success, he is not.

    It all demonstrates the struggle and difficulty of getting the self-centred to feel concern for others and to sacrifice anything in a fight largely symbolic rather than with violence, even to make a strong potest that was known would bruise the South African government.

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    Tumeke | 02-09
  • Spying on their allies again
    The Intercept has a major new story about the US's intelligence relationship with Turkey, and how the US monitors the Kurds for the Turkish government, even helping them target hit squads. But at the same time as they're spying for...
    No Right Turn | 02-09
  • The Press Debate – tonight, livestreamed on Stuff
    The second big head-to-head between David Cunliffe and John Key will be livestreamed on Stuff from 7pm! The Press leaders’ debate is where Key pulled his “show me the money” quote in 2011. And he’s going to be taking this...
    Boots Theory | 02-09
  • Not business as usual: Key’s leadership style & the bloggersphere
    Two weeks ago I suggested this could turn into New Zealand's first policy-free election; my instinct seems to have been proven correct. While policy debates are still occuring around the fringes, there is no way now that with just two...
    Pundit | 02-09
  • Rock Star or Rock Bottom
    There was a story in the Press yesterday about 14 people sharing a small 3 bedroom house in Hornby after a family of 6 lost their rental and all their (uninsured) possessions in a fire and had to move in...
    Te Whare Whero | 02-09
  • Greens workers policy supported by union movement
    The CTU is supporting the Green Party’s policy launched today focused on improving life for working New Zealanders. Photo:  ...
    CTU | 02-09
  • To drive or not to drive, that is the question: generation Y research
    This is a guest post from Dr Debbie Hopkins, a Postdoctoral Research Fellow at the University of Otago – she’s currently doing some research for the NZTA on non-drivers. Read on to find out more and see if you might...
    Transport Blog | 02-09
  • Reclaiming the Third Way & why it’s not a sell-out
    During a visit he made to Melbourne in 2000, I joined some colleagues to sit down for a chat with Dick Morris, the self-proclaimed strategic mastermind who claimed to have single-handedly rescued Bill Clinton's flailing presidency and coined the term...
    Pundit | 02-09
  • The Greens on work and wages
    The Greens released their work and wages policy today, targeted firmly at improving living standards and reducing inequality. The headline policy is an immediate increase in the minimum wage to $16/hour, followed by annual increases to reach $18/hour in 2017....
    No Right Turn | 01-09
  • America, America ….
    We hear a lot about American exceptionalism – what they lead the world in, what they think they lead the world in, and their unshakeable belief in their god-given right to do so.  The USA has the highest per capita ownership of...
    Te Whare Whero | 01-09
  • The caretaker convention and elections
    There was an interesting discussion on Twitter yesterday between Dean Knight and Graeme Edgeler about the caretaker convention and elections. Dean highlighted the fact that Key had a perfect right to call for whatever sort of inquiry he felt like,...
    No Right Turn | 01-09
  • A clayton’s inquiry
    That's the only way to describe John Key's proposed "inquiry" into Judith Collins:An inquiry into the events surrounding Judith Collins' downfall will not examine the relationship between her and Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater or the Serious Fraud Office investigation...
    No Right Turn | 01-09
  • YahooNZ’s news polls
    Another YahooNZ poll': September 1st"Do you think Dirty Politics is distracting from more important issues this election?" Results at the time of writing this:Yes. absolutely77%  (5622)  No, it's important22%  (1619)   I'm not sure1%  (66)    The capitals on 'Dirty Politics' clearly...
    Te Whare Whero | 01-09
  • Vote Choice: ACT’s Jamie Whyte – a ‘Narrow’ Ally?
    This week, the Vote Choice series looks at Dr Jamie Whyte, the leader of the ACT party, and his views on abortion and decriminalisation. A google search of Whyte and abortion provides little in the way of his opinion but...
    ALRANZ | 01-09
  • Who is Carrick Graham?
    Carrick GrahamIn damage control since their campaign officially began derailing a couple of weeks ago, things took another terrible turn for the National party last weekend. Not only did the corrupt Judith Collins have to resign on Saturday because of...
    The Jackal | 01-09
  • Judith, Cam, and the phantom FB messages
    I see that Judith Collins and Cameron Slater believe the hacker has simply invented Facebook conversations between the two of them. Insitnctively I don;t believe the denials, but I have an idea that could help Collins clear her name. Facebook...
    Polity | 01-09
  • Judith, Cameron, and the phantom FB messages
    I see that Judith Collins and Cameron Slater believe the hacker has simply invented Facebook conversations between the two of them. Insitnctively I don;t believe the denials, but I have an idea that could help Collins clear her name. Facebook...
    Polity | 01-09
  • Matthew Hooton’s dirty tactics
    Outside observers might be watching the National party unravelling and wondering what the hell is going on. This is especially the case with one particular right wing propagandist, Matthew Hooton.At first Hooton’s behaviour might seem a bit strange. He has...
    The Jackal | 01-09
  • Is Petrol cheap?
    I don’t tend to look at the motoring section of the Herald much however every now and then something stands out - often for its comedy value - and that was the case yesterday in an article titled Motoring Mythbusting. The article covers off...
    Transport Blog | 01-09
  • People of Turkey, Ukraine, I salute you!
    For some reason, I seem to be getting a lot of visits from Turkey.  Or perhaps that's just where IP address disguisers are presenting as at the moment.  But I like to thin the Ruritanian nature of New Zealand politics...
    Left hand palm | 01-09
  • The health pillar of good government
    Whatever the result on September 20, John Key will start the next term with diminished personal authority. Our democracy’s health is also diminished. Key’s inch-by-inch retreat to the point where his imagined leftwing conspiracy turned into a rightwing one and...
    Colin James | 01-09
  • Keystone XL: Oil Markets and Emissions
    Estimates of the incremental emission effects of individual oil sands projects like the Keystone XL (KXL) pipeline are sensitive to assumptions about the response of world markets and alternative transportation options. A recent Nature Climate Change paper by Erickson and...
    Skeptical Science | 01-09
  • Union to support Work and Income staff following tragedy
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says today’s shooting at a Work and Income office is a tragedy, and nobody should...
    PSA | 01-09
  • We no longer have a Prime Minister
    Having just listened to an item featuring John Key on Checkpoint (National Radio) I now have to announce that New Zealand has no-one at present performing the proper role of Prime Minister. John Key could not have acted less Prime Ministerial if he had...
    Political Scientist | 01-09
  • We no longer have a Prime Minister
    Having just listened to an item featuring John Key on Checkpoint (National Radio) I now have to announce that New Zealand has no-one at present performing the proper role of Prime Minister. John Key could not have acted less Prime Ministerial if he had...
    The Political Scientist | 01-09
  • Ashburton, 1 September 2014.
    Crime Scene: The murder of two WINZ workers and the wounding of another in Ashburton adds another tragic chapter to New Zealand's grim history of lone men committing multiple murders.I NEVER WENT BACK to Aramoana after the killing. I had...
    Bowalley Road | 01-09
  • Radio NZ: Politics with Matthew Hooton and Mike Williams – 1 September 20...
    . - Politics on Nine To Noon - . - Monday 1 September 2014 - . - Kathryn Ryan, with Matthew Hooton & Mike Williams - . Today on Politics on Nine To Noon, Mike Williams and Matthew Hooton on...
    Frankly Speaking | 01-09
  • Radio NZ: Politics with Matthew Hooton and Mike Williams – 1 September 20...
    . - Politics on Nine To Noon - . - Monday 1 September 2014 - . - Kathryn Ryan, with Matthew Hooton & Mike Williams - . Today on Politics on Nine To Noon, Mike Williams and Matthew Hooton on...
    Frankly Speaking | 01-09
  • John Key’s Top 69 Lies, Today no. 19 – The SkyCity deal doesn’t m...
     SkyCity deal doesn't mean more pokies – Key SkyCity is understood to be seeking law changes allowing 300 to 500 additional pokie machines and wider use of technology which would increase gambling revenue in return for building the $350 million facility...
    Arch Rival | 01-09
  • Will an inquiry make it all better?
    So far, the Dirty Politics book has generated two inquiries. The first is into the release  of information from the SIS to a certain blogger whom we don't name. The second is into Judith Collins' alleged involvement with an alleged...
    Pundit | 01-09
  • We Play Dirty at the Climate Talks Too: New Zealand’s Dirty Politics of C...
    This guest post is by David Tong, an Auckland based community lawyer working on his Master’s in Law on the UN climate talks. He chairs the P3 Foundation and co-chairs the Aotearoa New Zealand Human Rights Lawyers Association, and last...
    Hot Topic | 01-09
  • The trouble with liars
    A group of habitual liars try to get their story straight....
    Imperator Fish | 01-09
  • Photo of the day: Mitre 10′s bike parking
    The other weekend I went to the Mitre 10 Mega in Wairau Road to pick up some building supplies. To my surprise, they’ve put in a bike rack near the store entrance. I’m not sure how much use it’s going...
    Transport Blog | 01-09
  • TEU VICTORIA UNIVERSITY BRANCH NEWSLETTER – SEPTEMBER 2014
      TEU Victoria University Branch Newsletter – September 2014 In this issue: AGM-a-calling: Welcome from the Branch President Ask them Anything: TEU Presidential Election Election Special: Union members could make the difference Election Special: 3 Reasons to Vote Bringing Back Dignity:...
    Tertiary Education Union | 01-09
  • Stumbling towards Power?
    Let's be honest about it.  Labour have absolutely nothing to celebrate just now.The last few days have been fantastic for the left and in particular for a certain Mr D Cunliffe.  But before we get too deliriously joyous, let's face...
    Left hand palm | 01-09
  • Will the police investigate?
    John Key is busy putting together an inquiry into Judith Collins' attempt to undermined SFO Chief Executive Adam Feeley. The effectiveness of any inquiry will ultimately depend on its terms of reference, and the signs are not good; Key looks...
    No Right Turn | 01-09
  • Dirty Politics symposium on Friday
    Otago University will be holding an online symposium this Friday on "Debating 'Dirty Politics': Media, Politics and Law". Andrew Geddis has more details on the agenda: 1:00-1:15: Opening interview with Mr Nicky Hager 1:15-2:05: Media panel with Dr Rosemary Overell;...
    No Right Turn | 01-09
  • Debating “Dirty Politics”: Media, Politics and Law
    Love it or loathe it, Nicky Hager's Dirty Politics and its aftermath has lit a fire under our perception of "politics as usual" in New Zealand. Exactly how all that plays out come September 20th is an as yet unknown...
    Pundit | 01-09
  • More British collusion in torture
    This time in Nepal, where they funded, equipped and supported a regime torture-squad:British authorities have been accused of funding a four-year intelligence operation in Nepal that led to Maoist rebels being arrested, tortured and killed during the country’s civil war....
    No Right Turn | 01-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Speech to Canterbury Chamber of Commerce
    Today I'm going to talk about our policy package to upgrade and grow our economy and how we turn that growth into a foundation for a decent and fair society. But first I want to address the issue of our...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Commission of Inquiry must have bipartisan support
    The Labour Party is drafting terms of reference for a Commission of Inquiry, Labour’s Shadow Attorney-General David Parker says. “It is abundantly clear there is a need for an independent Commission of Inquiry, chaired by a High Court Judge, into...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Rapid Transit to unclog Christchurch
    Labour will build a 21st century Rapid Transit system for Christchurch, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The long delayed recovery of Christchurch hinges on a modern commuter system for the city. “We will invest $100 million in a modern rail plan...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s commitment to public broadcasting
    A Labour Government will set up a working group to re-establish a public service television station as part of our commitment to ensuring New Zealand has high quality free-to-air local content. “We will set up a working group to report...
    Labour | 31-08
  • A new deal for the conservation estate
    The health of our economy depends on New Zealand preserving and restoring our land, air, water and indigenous wildlife, says Labour’s Conservation spokesperson Ruth Dyson. Announcing Labours Conservation policy, she said that there will be a comprehensive plan to restore...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s plan to end homelessness
    Labour has a comprehensive approach to end homelessness starting with the provision of emergency housing for 1000 people each year and putting an end to slum conditions in boarding houses, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes that homelessness is not...
    Labour | 30-08
  • Labour: A smarter approach to justice
    A Labour Government will improve the justice system to ensure it achieves real public safety, provides equal access to justice and protects human rights, Labour’s Justice spokesperson Andrew Little says. “Our approach is about tackling the root causes of crime, recognising...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Labour to foster Kiwi love of sport and the great outdoors
    A Labour Government will promote physical activity, back our top athletes and help foster Kiwis’ love of the great outdoors by upgrading tramping and camping facilities. Trevor Mallard today released Labour’s sports and recreation policy which will bring back a...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Pacific languages recognised under Labour
    Labour will act to recognise the five main Pacific languages in New Zealand including through the education system, said Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. Announcing Labour’s Pacific Island policy he said that there must be a strong commitment to...
    Labour | 29-08
  • No healthy economy without a healthy environment
    Labour recognises that we cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment, says Environment spokesperson Moana Mackey announcing Labour’s environment policy. “New Zealand’s economy has been built on the back of the enormous environmental wealth we collectively enjoy as...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Better protection, fairer deal for Kiwi consumers
    Tackling excessive prices, ensuring consumers have enough information to make ethical choices and giving the Commerce Commission more teeth are highlights of Labour’s Consumer Rights policy. “The rising cost of living is a concern for thousands of Kiwi families. A...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki Annette Sykes, Waia...
    Media are advised that this coming weekend, the MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will be on the Internet MANA Road Trip within the electorate of Waiariki. Speakers confirmed are Annette Sykes, Hone Harawira, John Minto, Laila Harre and Kim...
    Mana | 27-08
  • Internet MANA – Waiariki Road Trip: 29, 30, 31 Aug 2014
    The Internet MANA Road Trip hits Waiariki this weekend. It would be great if all MANA members in Waiariki could especially attend the public meetings and show their support for our Waiariki candidate Annette Sykes. Confirmed speakers Hone Harawira (except Taupo), Annette...
    Mana | 27-08
  • First home buyers $200 a week better off with Labour
    A couple earning around $75,000 a year would be $200 a week better off buying a two bedroom terraced Labour KiwiBuild home instead of an equivalent new build under National’s housing policy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe.  “National’s policy to...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Another Day – Another big power profit
    The latest profit announcement from Genesis Energy shows that the power company was sold for a song to the detriment of the country’s power consumers, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “A net profit of $ 49.2 million follows hard...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour embraces the rainbow
    Labour will work hard to ensure all New Zealanders enjoy the freedom to grow up and live their lives in dignity and security. Labour’s Rainbow policy, released tonight in Wellington, focuses on International Relations, Human Rights and Education....
    Labour | 26-08
  • National gets fast and loose with the facts
    In their desperation to make it look as though they are doing something about the housing crisis, National is playing fast and loose with the facts, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour will drop power prices for Kiwi families
    New Zealanders will get cheaper power prices under NZ Power, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The electricity market is clearly broken. With falling demand for electricity, prices should be going down. Instead prices are going up and companies are extracting...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour: Promoting sustainable tourism
    Ensuring New Zealand’s clean, green status continues to be an international tourism benchmark and reviewing MBIE’s oversight of the tourism sector will be on the radar under a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Tourism policy today, spokesperson Darien Fenton said tourism...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Skills shortage a result of National’s complacency
    The fact that there is still a severe shortage of skilled tradespeople, despite a growth in the number of apprentices, is a result of National’s failure to plan and develop the workforce, Grant Robertson, Labour Employment, Skills and TrainingSpokesperson says."The...
    Labour | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker?? – Mint...
    MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is calling for a radical overhaul of New Zealand’s taxation system with calculations showing that a minimum wage worker pays a ten times higher tax rate than the Prime Minister. o Minimum wage...
    Mana | 25-08
  • Labour’s culture of science and innovation
    Labour will create a culture of science and innovation in New Zealand that will be the envy of the world, says Labour’s Innovation, Research and Development spokesperson Megan Woods. “Labour believes that good science lies at the heart of a...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Improving life for our new New Zealanders
    New Zealand’s international standing as a community that encourages and fosters all cultures will be bolstered under a Labour Government with an upgrade of the present Office of Ethnic Affairs to a Ministry. Releasing Labour’s Ethnic Affairs policy, spokesperson Phil...
    Labour | 25-08
  • South Auckland housing crisis
    National’s HomeStart package is nothing more than a political stunt designed to beguile South Auckland voters, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Few working Pasifika and Maori workers in South Auckland will be able to buy their own...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Home buyer subsidy discredited in Oz
    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • The Press Leaders Debate – proof a newspaper can kill the internet
    No more beersies for you Mr Key. Seriously – was the Prime Minister drunk during this debate? I am so sickened by what passed as a Leaders debate, I will make this review short and vicious. Everyone involved in putting...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Voting starts tomorrow!
    On the telly, in the papers, on the Net, billboards on almost every street corner – it’s hard to miss the fact that there’s an election coming up. Everyone’s trying to win your vote on Election Day, September 20, (this...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Collins inquiry a whitewash before it has even started
    The farce whitewash that Key is trying to push through here for the inquiry into Judith Collins role in a hit on the SFO should enrage any NZer, regardless of how they vote. Whaleoil won’t be forced to appear, it’s...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Press Leaders Debate – Round 2 – 7pm tonight
    This debate is live in a Town Hall, Key has done well at these in the past, but since the hate politics exposed in Dirty Politics, expect real fury directed at Key. My guess is that Key will attempt to use whatever he...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • MANA hit speed wobbles – why Annette Sykes will win Waiariki
    MANA are my favourites. But of late, their transition from crawling to sprinting has hit some speed wobbles. Hone’s and Pam’s aggressive attitude towards the media recently is very understandable in light of how connected many of the media were to...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • Soz Cam – PaknSave boycott of whaleoil continues – time to start a boyc...
    Cam is so carcinogenic now, not even his mates in the Tobacco Industry are talking to him any longer. I suspect only the Israeli Defence Force propaganda department are paying for content on whaleoil now. Cam says that PaknSave have dropped their problems...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • The Rock Fuels NZ Roastbuster Rape Culture
    This is making me feel pretty uncomfortable. Here we have an instance of Jono and Ben posing like “exposed celebrities”. But do you know what I’m seeing? I’m seeing two dudes who basically “roasted” a woman online (exposed pictures of...
    The Daily Blog | 02-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – Why beneficiaries need advocacy
    There are times when I am wrong. I was wrong recently when someone suggested to me that AAAP should be eligible for government funding to continues its advocacy work. That was before. Before dealing with advocacy on a weekly basis...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • TheDailyBlog September Political Poll Has Been Kicked Off
    The Daily Blog’s August poll has concluded and the September poll has been kicked off, asking readers: What party will you likely vote for at this year’s General Election? You will see this month’s poll in the right-hand sidebar of...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Jamie Whyte, leave that poor seal alone!
    Worse than showing mere lip service to Rainbow inclusion, ACT leader Jamie Whyte showed stunning arrogance when appeared at a candidates debate on rainbow issues hosted by the Auckland University Students’ Association last Thursday. The stunning hypocrisy was evident as...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Right wing can’t help but use scum
    Some people have been shocked that the traditional right wing party in New Zealand politics is so deeply embedded with scum like the blogger Whale Oil. We need not be so surprised. It takes a certain type to support the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: National’s Ohariu candidate admits contact by Simon Lusk
    . . Wellington, NZ, 31  August – At a meet-the-candidates public meeting in the Rongotai Electorate, National’s Ohariu candidate, Brett Hudson, confirmed that he had been approached by “a mate”, who passed on a message from  National Party operative, Simon...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014
    Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Petition for Governor General of New Zealand to Investigate all the allegat...
      Now we see the inquiry will be a whitewash, that is secret, won’t be consulted with the Opposition, will have limited scope and will ignore Nicky Hager’s book, we must demand the Governor General step in and demand an...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Ashburton, 1 September 2014
    I NEVER WENT BACK to Aramoana after the killing. I had been a frequent visitor to the tiny seaside village back in the late 1970s and throughout the 80s. Its tall cliffs and broad beaches providing a colourful backdrop to...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Checkmate in 1 move – how could Slater have known what was in OIA request...
    And now we get down to the final few moves before checkmate. If the following investigation is right, how could Slater and Collins have known what was in the Secret Intelligence Service Official Information Act request that hadn’t been released...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Of Jennifer Lawrence Without Consent
    Today the Edge website – owned by Media Works – published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent. It is not OK to publish naked media of any woman without her consent, full stop. It is absolutely disgusting...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate ...
    Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how good was I i...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Maggie Barry slags Laila Harre & blogger, audience erupt
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting held their public meeting in Auckland last night and it became a fiery shouting match when Maggie Barry decided to slag Laila Harre and me off. 250 people packed into the Pioneer Hall off High...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • It has to be a full independent public inquiry and Key MUST front
      You know things are bad when images like this start appearing in the media.  It isn’t a ‘left wing conspiracy’ to point out the over whelming evidence of what is clearly a right wing conspiracy! If it looks like a conspiracy, sounds like a conspiracy...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Political Party social media stats – National playing Dirty Politics on s...
    Interesting data from friend of the blog, Marty Stewart, on social media likes and it shows an interesting question that post Dirty Politics should probably get asked…   …it’s interesting that Key has so many personal followers.  One wonders if...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • The depth of the National rot and the compliance of our news media
    I’m so tired. Aren’t you? I don’t want to read the news anymore. It’s awful and I feel ashamed of it. We live in a country that people all over the world would give an arm, a leg; their life...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Conservative Party candidate links smacking ban with suicide, sexually tran...
    If Chemtrails, faked moon landings and climate change denial weren’t enough, welcome to your new Minister for Spanking,  Edward Saafi... The anti-smacking law is to blame for youth suicide, youth prostitution and even sexually-transmitted infections, a leading Conservative party candidate...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on the canonisation of Matthew Hooton
    Before we all start the canonisation of Matthew Hooton, let’s consider some home truths here shall we? While the Wellington Ruminator Blog, the blog who was previously mates with Judith Collins, now seems to have a crush on Matthew Hooton… …I...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on undercover cops in bars
    Dunedin police booze operation labelled ‘creepy’ Undercover police officers drank in Dunedin bars as part of an operation targeting liquor licensing offences. While police said the inaugural operation was a success — with most bars found compliant — the Hospitality...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Judith Collins press conference
    Judith Collins press conference...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Angry Lawyer – Collins, Odgers, Williams and legal ethics
    We deserve better lawyers than Judith Collins Three of the worst offenders exposed in Dirty Politics are lawyers: Judith Collins, Cathy Odgers, and Jordan Williams. What Nicky Hager exposed them doing would be out of line for anyone, but from...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Necessary Defence
    Increasingly climate change is becoming the main fracture line between political parties. Where political parties stand on climate change defines political parties and movements like no other issue. The Mana Movement like the Maori Party it sprang from, came out...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Why it is all over for John Key
    Image: Melanie D I’ve been confident that National will lose this election and that our focus should be on what a progressive Government needs to establish as its agenda in the first 100 days. Past that point, the establishment pushes back...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word to everyone who voted National in 2011
    I received this interesting email from a National Party supporter today… …let me say this to anyone who voted National last election – you should be ashamed by what has been revealed and what your vote ended up enabling but...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Déjà Vu All Over Again: John Ansell confirms his participation...
      THE MAN BEHIND the Iwi-Kiwi billboards that very nearly won the 2005 election for Don Brash and the National Party has confirmed his involvement in businessman John Third’s and former Act MP Owen Jennings’ campaign to drive down the...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Public Broadcasting Auckland debate 6.30pm tonight now with Colin Craig &am...
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting debate on public broadcasting happens tonight at 6.30pm in Auckland at the Pioneer Women’s Hall, High Street, Auckland City.  In the light of Dirty Politics and the manipulation of the media, public broadcasting is more important for...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Winners & Losers in Collins sacking plus what’s the latest on Slater...
      Make no mistake, there was no way this was a resignation, it’s a face saving way out for Collins, she was sacked.  My understanding is that National internal polls are haemorrhaging and that the powers that be within National...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Third party propaganda attacks incoming Labour-led government
    . . Further to a report by Daily Blogger, Chris Trotter, on receiving information regarding planned attack-billboards, the following billboard is highly visible to traffic on the southbound lane of the Wellington motorway, just prior to the Murphy St turn-off....
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Labour wins the Internet
    I’m sure I’m not the only one who tried to vote online for the leaders debate and couldn’t because the website was down. The next option was the txt vote, 75c a pop of course. So I’m not surprised that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Rotherham and the need to challenge willful bl...
    I haven’t been following the events in Rotterham too closely.  I’ve read about the basic issues and the culture of silence that stopped action been taken even after complaints were made.  That culture of silence is incredibly familiar, and described...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Review: Hairspray
      Oh Hairspray! What fun! Somehow I managed to miss the movie when it came out, I had no idea really what it was about though I felt it had a vague relation to High School Musical. In retrospect, that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Mounting global pressure against Timor-Leste’s ‘death sentence’ media...
    East Timor’s José Belo … courageous fight against ‘unconstitutional’ media law.Image: © Ted McDonnell 2014 CAFÉ PACIFIC and the Pacific Media Centre Online posted challenges to the controversial ‘press law’ nine months ago when it emerged how dangerous this draft...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Spies, Lies and When Campaigns Are Fried
    Like most of the rest of the nation’s political classes, I was eagerly affixed to TV One from 12:30 on Saturday afternoon to witness the downfall of Judith Collins.Whenever we witness the crumbling of a titan of the political landscape...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Whaleoil crushes Crusher
    Judith ends up shooting herself A new email has been released suggesting that Collins was attempting to undermine the head of Serious Fraud Office with the help of far right hate speech merchant Cameron Slater. Unbelievable!   She has been forced...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Rumours Judith Collins gone at lunchtime
    Brook Sabin first of the mark with rumours Judith Collins is about to resign – PM announcing a statement at 12.30pm… …Paddy follows… …Vance confirms..   …if Collins is gone by lunchtime, it will be because the PM understands the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • BREAKING: UPDATE on DIRT ALERT!
    Thanks to the information passed to Chris Trotter by “Idiot/Savant” from No Right Turn it is now possible to identify at least some of the persons involved in this latest example of attack politics. What follows is Chris’s response to Idiot/Savant’s timely assistance: Well done...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Comparing burning puppets, hip hop lyrics and drunk student chants to black...
    Watching the mainstream media try and obscure Cunliffe’s surprise win in the leaders debate  is a reminder the Press Gallery is in depressed shock. The current spin line from the Wellington bubble media in the wake of Dirty Politics is that...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Why has it all gone quiet on Charter Schools?
    They’re one of ACT’s flagship policies and the National Party have been gung ho in supporting them. So how come we’re not hearing Hekia Parata, Jamie Whyte, Catherine Isaac, et al singing from the rafters about what a resounding success charter...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall
    Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Dirt Alert! Are the Greens and Labour about to become the target...
    WE’VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE. In 2005 pamphlets began appearing all over New Zealand attacking Labour and the Greens. For a couple of days both the parties targeted and the news media were flummoxed. Who was behind such an obviously...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: the Press Council’s decision
    . . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The difference between Cunliffe & Key in the debate
    It was with much interest that I watched the leaders debate on Thursday night.  I watched with an open mind, always happy to have my opinion changed.  Maybe John Key is all the wonderful things that many say about him,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – When Did We Agree To Our Data Being Shared with ...
    New shocking evidence has emerged from Edward Snowden’s trove of documents about a program called ICREACH under which data collected by the GCSB is shared with 23 US spy agencies. Under new sharing agreements which appear to have commenced immediately after...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Independent Epsom Candidates ‘One Strike’ Crime Policy
    Best wishes to all of those who live in Epsom, Mount Eden, New Market, Remuera and of course the rest of New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Large majorities of NZ First voters would prefer Labour deal
    67% of those who voted for New Zealand First at the 2011 general election would prefer Labour to lead a coalition government if one is needed after September 20’s general election....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Jointly owned urban development agency for Christchurch
    “Given the strategic importance of the Canterbury rebuild, it is logical that the transition from emergency governance arrangements is overseen by the Prime Minister’s office, but to maintain momentum in the city centre an expert development agency...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Collins inquiry at best a Band-Aid, a permanent fix needed
    Collins inquiry at best a Band-Aid, a permanent fix is needed The Public Service Association (PSA) says the inquiry into Judith Collins’ behaviour must be accompanied by a process to restore the lost trust between Ministers and public servants if...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Association welcomes new Chief Executive
    “The New Zealand Police Association is pleased to announce the appointment of Heather Verry to Chief Executive. Heather picks up the mantle from Chris Pentecost, who recently retired from this position,” Police Association President Greg O’Connor said...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Young Voters Want Politicians to Grow Up
    Young voters want answers to the questions that directly affect them – but it seems as much as anything, they want politicians to grow up....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Climate Voter election debate to get big audience
    Auckland, 2 September 2014 - Tickets to tomorrow night’s first-ever Climate Voter election debate have sold out but an online audience will also get to see the event live....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • The Edge show disregard for consent
    The Edge has shown complete disregard for consent, for women’s bodies and in doing so has contributed to the wider issue of rape culture in New Zealand says specialist sexual violence prevention organisation, Sexual Abuse Prevention Network. Yesterday,...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • The Rock is Fuelling New Zealand’s Roastbuster Rape Culture
    The Rock are still displaying without-consent images of Jennifer Lawrence and other celebrities online. They are making fun of this without-consent action, saying that she was "asking for it", etc. They appear to be supporting this kind of...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • HRLA Condemns Murder of Filipino Human Rights lawyer
    Attorney Rodolfo R. Felicio, a member of the National Union of Peoples Lawyers , was gunned down while working on a land dispute in Rizal, east of Manila. Two caretakers of the disputed land were also injured in the attack....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • SFO lays charges for procurement fraud
    Two individuals have been charged in the Auckland District Court today with Crimes Act charges laid by the Serious Fraud Office for alleged fraud against Mighty River Power Limited relating to procurement for the Company’s Southdown power station....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Commitment to lifting wages good for New Zealand
    The Service and Food Workers Union has applauded the Green Party workers’ policy announced today....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Sykes: There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Winston Peters Shown up by the Civilian Party
    Even the satirical 'Civilian Party' has now offered the Taxpayers’ Union more credible figures for the ' Bribe-O-Meter ' than Winston Peters’ New Zealand First. The Taxpayers’ Union Bribe-O-Meter now includes, National, Labour, the Greens,...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Further criminal investigation into CTV Building collapse
    Police has today confirmed it will be advancing the criminal investigation into the collapse of the CTV building in February 2011....
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Greens policy to restore link between effort and reward
    The Green Party’s new workers policy articulates an alternative to wage repression and job insecurity based on restoring the link between effort and reward, according to FIRST Union. The core tenets of the policy include implementing an $18 minimum...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Greens workers policy supported by union movement
    The CTU is supporting the Green Party’s policy launched today focused on improving life for working New Zealanders. “This policy shows the Greens commitment to collective bargaining as the best and fairest way to improve workers terms and conditions. It...
    Scoop politics | 02-09
  • Research Scholarships for Cannabis Treatments
    Medical cannabis research will be boosted by $140 million if the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party is elected on September 20. Pediatric epilepsy treatment will be one of the main priorities for the research scholarships....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Ngai Te Rangi Change to Tribal Elections
    Ngai Te Rangi has begun a postal vote of beneficiaries to change the way representatives are elected to the two Ngai Te Rangi tribal organisations....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Greens’ commitment to pay equity welcomed by workers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says the 58,000 workers they represent will benefit from the announcement by the Green Party of a commitment to pay equity and to a living wage for core public servants and contractors....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Real People Powering Real Policy
    New Zealanders from all walks of life have helped the Internet Party create a full platform of strong, progressive and realistic policies that will create a better future for everyone, says leader Laila Harré....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • University of Canterbury to help with forestry safety
    The University of Canterbury is to launch a new research project to make sure New Zealand’s new forestry roads are safe and are established with minimal environmental impact....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Time to get serious about ending homelessness!
    New Zealand needs a comprehensive set of policies that address the housing and support needs of homeless people as well as significantly increasing the supply of affordable, good quality houses and flats....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Hundreds to join domestic, sexual violence march
    Several social service providers from across New Zealand have come together to call for an end to the epidemic level of domestic and sexual violence in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Students helped with debt repayments
    New Zealand students now living in Australia are being reminded not to ignore their student loan debt as Inland Revenue expands its latest tool to help with repayments....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Launch of GenderNeutral.co.nz website
    GenderNeutral.co.nz are excited to announce the launch of their new website, GenderNeutral.co.nz ....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Factory farming debaters to look chicken in the eye
    MPs participating in a panel discussion about factory farming will come face-to-face with a real live hen, rescued from the claws of the intensive farming industry. Hettie the Hen will demonstrate to the MPs what little space is afforded to...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton
    Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton 1 September 2014 For Immediate Release “This morning I made comments on Radio New Zealand’s Nine to Noon programme about an attempt by staff in the Prime Minister’s Office to interfere in the appointment...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Worm turns down for John Key
    John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s Reactor, the original Worm. John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Without Consent
    The Edge website, owned by Media Works have published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Statement from the Governor-General on Ashburton Shootings
    The Governor-General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, has expressed his deep shock following the shooting of three people in Ashburton today....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Update on IGIS inquiry into release of NZSIS information
    In recognition of the public interest, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security, Cheryl Gwyn, took the unusual step of providing an update during the course of an inquiry and confirmed today that she would be summoning a number of individuals...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • An Open Government Plan developed in secrecy
    The State Services Commission sent NZ’s Open Government Action Plan to the international Open Government Partnership (OGP) Secretariat on 31 July. The countries involved in the OGP since its inception - from the UK and US to Indonesia and Brazil...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • KiwiRail; another year older and deeper in debt
    That is a lot of money and there are lessons that need to be learnt before we pour in another $1 billion....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Fonterra China Deal Demands Safe Supply Chain
    The future success of Fonterra’s deal to sell infant formula in China [1] requires all milk it uses be safe and for Fonterra to secure its supply chain from contamination by GE DNA and pesticide residues. There is now significant...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • HRC praises Auckland mum for speaking out
    Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy has praised an Auckland mother of four who went public after humiliating treatment by staff at The Warehouse....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Southern DHB refers disputed issue to Serious Fraud Office
    Following advice from forensic investigation firm Beattie Varley Limited, Southern District Health Board has referred the expenditure at the centre of its long running dispute with South Link Health to the Serious Fraud Office. The parties have been...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Letter 1 September 2014
    Last night’s TVNZ Colmar Brunton poll puts the left and right 60 MPs each. United and the Maori Party say they will go with the side that gets to 61 MPs. ACT just needs just 1.3% or 28 thousand Party...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Shopping Giveaway Harmless Fun For Kids
    Family First NZ is rubbishing claims by critics including Gareth Morgan that the New World ‘Little Shop’ promotion is harmful for kids, and says that kids should be allowed to be kids. “Children love acting like their parents and pretending...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Red Cross launches employment service for former refugees
    New Zealand Red Cross is encouraging employers to give refugees a fresh startwith the launch of Pathways to Employment, a nationwide work assistance service....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Conservation Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Conservation Policy including the key objective of halting the current pattern of indigenous biodiversity decline within ten years....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Poverty is falling and income inequality is not rising
    “A Roy Morgan poll shows that the issue people are most concerned about is income inequality. This just goes to show how the persistent repetition of a lie bewilders the public. Income inequality is not in fact rising. And the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Rotary NZ responding to Fiji water and sanitation issues
    Clean water and sanitation are vital to health. In Fiji Rotary New Zealand have been targeting 22 communities that are experiencing severe hardship mainly because they don’t have access to clean water for their drinking, cleaning and cooking needs....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Work & Income shooting a Tragedy
    Kay Brereton speaking on behalf of the National Beneficiary Advocacy Consultancy group says; “Two people shot and another wounded, this is a tragedy and our deepest sympathy goes out to the family and whanau of the victims, as well as...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • 1080 Poison Deer Repellent not Effective – Farmers
    Four deer have been found dead within a farmer's bush block, after an aerial 1080 poison drop applied with deer repellent. The drop was part of a 30,000 hectare drop across the Northern Pureora Forest Park....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Employment Charter will strengthen migrants’ rights
    Establishing an Employment Charter for construction companies is a critical step to strengthening the rights of migrant workers that are fast becoming the face of the Christchurch rebuild, according to an alliance of union groups. The charter has...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Global March For Elephants and Rhino
    It’s a trans-national business that funds terrorist organisations, fuels conflict in Africa, and poses environmental, development and security challenges. The illegal wildlife trade is also a lucrative business, generating an estimated USD$20 billion...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • New series of videos aimed at disengaged youth
    From the people who brought you 'NZ Idle' (NZ's favourite web series about an artist on the dole) comes a new series about election time: Choice Lolz....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Picket Of Leaders Christchurch Debate
    KEEP OUR ASSETS PICKET OF LEADERS CHRISTCHURCH DEBATE TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 2nd, 6 p.m. ST MARGARETS COLLEGE, SHREWSBURY STREET, MERIVALE...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
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