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Nelson Mandela has died

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Nelson mandela

From the Guardian:

Nelson Mandela, the towering figure of Africa’s struggle for freedom and a hero to millions around the world, has died at the age of 95.

South Africa‘s first black president died after years of declining health that had caused him to withdraw from public life.

The death of Mandela will send South Africa deep into mourning and self-reflection 18 years after he led the country from racial apartheid to inclusive democracy.

But his passing will also be keenly felt by people around the world who revered Mandela as one of history’s last great statesmen, and a moral paragon comparable with Mohandas Gandhi and Martin Luther King.

It was a transcendent act of forgiveness after spending 27 years in prison, 18 of them on Robben Island, that will assure his place in history. With South Africa facing possible civil war, Mandela sought reconciliation with the white minority to build a new democracy.

He led the African National Congress (ANC) to victory in the country’s first multiracial election in 1994. Unlike other African liberation leaders who cling to power, such as Zimbabwe’s Robert Mugabe, he then voluntarily stepped down after one term.

No doubt lots will be written about him in the days to come but for me his combination of eloquence and principle made him stand out as a leader.  And his willingness to forgive held South Africa together after apartheid was toppled when chaos could have been the outcome.

The last word should be his:

I am fundamentally an optimist. Whether that comes from nature or nurture, I cannot say. Part of being optimistic is keeping one’s head pointed toward the sun, one’s feet moving forward. There were many dark moments when my faith in humanity was sorely tested, but I would not and could not give myself up to despair. That way lays defeat and death.”

158 comments on “Nelson Mandela has died”

  1. Morrissey 1

    Obama to speak at his funeral? Let’s hope his acting is more convincing than it was in this performance…..

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2013/jul/01/barack-obama-nelson-mandela-robben-island-video

    • happynz 1.1

      I don’t get your negativity here. Obama apparently isn’t to your liking, but what exactly from that clip ticked the wrong boxes for you?

      • Morrissey 1.1.1

        You don’t get the supreme irony of someone who is a declared enemy of Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and Julian Assange—to mention only the most celebrated—pretending to be moved when he visits the cell of a great freedom-fighter? You “don’t get” it?

  2. Ad 2

    To me at least as impressive for his endurance, courage and idealism, as for sustaining peace and civic continuity rather than bloody revolution when apartheid fell.

    To make transition the principal measure of success, rather than upheaval that most other post-colonial countries had gone through at cost of millions of African lives. A stunning leader that delivered peace.

  3. TheContrarian 3

    Having spent a lot of time in SA I can tell you there are two sides to this. Some people think the nation will mourn in unity, anothers think there’ll be carnage. I hope for the best

    • TheContrarian:

      I think people pull together in time of mourning. SA will come out of this with their heads held high.

      • TheContrarian 3.1.1

        I hope so. There was an under current that felt Mandela was what stood between an uprising of some sort.

        Anyway it’s a real pity that the party he left behind a his legacy is corrupt to the core

  4. Philj 4

    Xox
    Who or where is the next Mandela? We sure need them.

    • Arfamo 4.1

      Well a saffa friend reckons the lid will blow off the pot over there now. She says the younger activists for change and democracy want to change the way things have gone RIGHT NOW! They respect Nelson but think that he has had his day and that it is time for stronger action to redress the ills and corruption that he distracted people from seeing. She reckons his passing will be the signal that it is time for massive changes to be demanded. Time will tell I suppose.

      • swordfish 4.1.1

        “They respect Nelson but think that he has had his day…”

        Well, yeah, I mean, given that he’s just died, I think that would probably be a reasonable conclusion.

    • Martin 4.2

      he can be all of us, he can be everywhere. All that is needed is for people to have clear insight to see and the will to act.

  5. LynWiper 6

    What an amazing legacy he leaves. Thanks for closing with that particular quote Mickeysavage. Particularly encouraging for those who remain committed to improving the lives of others despite situations seeming insurmountable. To optimism and moving forward with heads pointed towards the sun. Nelson Mandela RIP.

  6. Beautiful heartfelt sincere speech by President Obama.

    • Morrissey 8.1

      Beautiful heartfelt sincere speech by President Obama.

      Rubbish. You really are the most gullible twit on this forum.

      • weka 8.1.1

        Can we please, for once, not make this about us?

        If you don’t feel a certain degree of reverence or need for care in this thread, perhaps you could take the issues to Open Mike?

        • Morrissey 8.1.1.1

          Sorry, weka [Weka is right. How about we make this post flame free - MS]

          • Will@Welly 8.1.1.1.1

            Yes, we all know Obama’s speech was prepared by a speech-writer, but as the son of a white woman and an African man, Obama would have faced a certain amount of prejudice growing up in America. As a politician in America, he would have been aware of Nelson Mandela.
            Here in New Zealand we have a leader who is going to South Africa, representing us. The guy didn’t give a fig about apartheid. “I can’t remember”, what a dip-stick!! Now listen to him – full of B.S. Key isn’t even fit to wipe the floor where the funeral will be held. A disgrace.
            Today, New Zealand lost a friend.

  7. greywarbler 10

    This seems right for Mandela. From brainyquote.

    Throughout life people will make you mad, disrespect you and treat you bad.
    Let God deal with the things they do, cause hate in your heart will consume you too.
    Will Smith

  8. fender 11

    I feel privileged to have been on this earth at the same time as this legend. R.I.P. old boy.

    • McFlock 11.1

      Yes indeed.
      Whenever I get particularly down about humanity, Mandela is on the shortlist of folks who remind me of the immense potential we have as a species.

  9. North 12

    Two types of tears in this household – tears of sadness – tears of celebration – sadness at the loss – celebration that he lived.

  10. i had the privilege of meeting him briefly (handshake/smile/shoulder-touch) at the private thank you he gave to anti-apartheid activists here in nz..at a church here in auckland..(i was there for bfm..one of the few media organisations invited..)

    ..and i have been in the presence of quite a few powerful/charismatic/leader-types in my life..

    ..(and been impressed by few..)

    ..but there have been none that filled a room with their very presence..as did mandela..

    ..phillip ure..

    • Lucky you P.Ure .Now watch Key and his National mates try and score points .Like Bolger did when Mandela paid us a visit.He forgot just how much the Nat’s under Muldoon condemned Mandela
      and the actions they took against the ant-tour demonstrators . As for Key he can’t even remember Whether he was for or against the rugby Tour.

      • yabby 13.1.1

        As for scoring political points Pink Postman can you spot the irony here???

        I am on now on the right of NZ politics, but was always actively against apartheid and have had the privilege of visiting SA many times and visiting Soweto, Mandela’s house, the Apartheid Museum and his cell at Robben Island. Regardless of one’s politics surely these can be set aside while we reflect on a man whose humility and passion for his fellow man, his strength, power for forgiveness and vision of reconciliation is undeniable. I am personally inspired and elevated as a human being to have shared the earth while he lived, admired his struggle, albeit from afar, and I am the wiser for adopting some of his principles and applying them in my life.

      • Delia 13.1.2

        Yes that is true and Muldoon was happy to see New Zealanders against apartheid abused and beaten in the streets. That is the truth of National’s fine history on apartheid in South Africa. However Muldoon at least had a position on South Africa – John Key admits he did not have one..or did he, and he thinks it may now be unfashionable and unpalatable, to say what it was.

  11. Ad 14

    It’s worth reading his full speech from the dock to get a sense of his moral development into harder shades of resistance. Eloquent and hardly a rhetorical note.

  12. Rogue Trooper 15

    “Lives of great men all remind us
    We can make our lives sublime,
    And, departing, leave behind us
    Footprints in the sands of time.”- Longfellow- A Psalm of Life

    “They’re only truly great who are truly good”. – Chapman- Revenge for Honour

    • vto 15.1

      Amen.

      RIP Mr Mandela.

      Someone who in such a natural manner set out the boundary pegs of the best we can be…

  13. greywarbler 16

    Nelson Mandela would want us to remember Steve Biko also. Steve was a student leader and followed a practice called Black Consciousness.

    Steve Biko – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Biko‎
    Stephen Bantu Biko (18 December 1946 – 12 September 1977)[3] was an anti-apartheid activist in South Africa in the 1960s and 1970s.

    This description of Steve’s end illustrates the sort of brutalised, dehumanised place that religion-
    based South Africa had become.

    How Steve Biko died | News24
    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/How-Steve-Biko-died-20120919‎
    At Walmer Police Station Steve was kept naked and manacled for 20 days before being transferred to the notorious Sanlam Building in Port Elizabeth. The security police there resented the respect Steve enjoyed from the King William’s Town security police. Stories had reached them that Steve had, in a previous stint in detention, even fought back and had punched one of the senior officers in King William’s Town, Warrant Officer Hattingh.

    When he arrived at the Sanlam Building the security police told him to remain standing. After a while he sat down. That was when one of the policemen, Captain Siebert, grabbed him and pulled him back onto his feet. A “scuffle” ensued, and true to what he had told Sonwabo Yengo, Steve would defend himself.

    On 6 September Steve sustained a massive brain haemorrhage. The cause of his death was not disputed: complications resulting from a brain injury. Steve suffered at least three brain lesions occasioned by the application of force to his head; the injury was suffered between the night of 6 September and 07:30 on 7 September.

    In their amnesty application the policemen who killed Steve tried to evade spelling out what exactly had happened in the same way that they had during the original Biko Inquest in 1977. The details are not fully known. However, they admitted that after Steve had suffered a brain injury, they still kept him in a standing position. They shackled his hands and feet to the metal grille of the cell door. The police noticed that he was speaking with a slur but would not relent and continued with their interrogation.

    Equally complicit in Steve’s murder were three doctors involved in the case, the district surgeon Dr Ivor Lang, the chief district surgeon Dr Benjamin Tucker and Dr Colin Hersch, a specialist from Port Elizabeth.

    On September 7, one day after Steve suffered the brain haemorrhage, the police called in Dr Lang. Lang could find nothing wrong with Steve, despite the fact that he found him in a daze with a badly swollen face, hands and feet.

    Instead the doctor alleged that Steve was “shamming”. Lang’s more senior colleague, Dr Benjamin Tucker, was called in for his opinion on what should be done. Tucker suggested that Steve be taken to hospital, but the police strongly objected, and Tucker subordinated his Hippocratic oath to their wishes.

    Lang, even though he was acutely aware of Steve’s condition, recommended that Steve be driven 700 kilometres to the prison hospital in Pretoria. By 10 September Steve’s condition had deteriorated alarmingly. The following day, September 11, the police put Steve in the back of a Land Rover and drove him for more than twelve hours from Port Elizabeth to Pretoria – naked, manacled and unconscious.

    On September 12 Steve Biko died, in the words of Sydney Kentridge, “a miserable and lonely death on a mat on a stone floor in a prison cell”.

    The minister of justice and the police, Jimmy Kruger, issued a statement that Biko had died from a hunger strike. Addressing a National Party Congress, Kruger proclaimed to laughter:“I am not saddened by Biko’s death and I am not mad. His death leaves me cold.” Kruger’s remark reverberated around the world.

  14. CnrJoe 17

    in the 80’s this was always a highlight of an evening dancing

    and what made me cry today to watch him dance towards the end of the song

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGS7SpI7obY

    its Jonny Clegg and Savuka with Mandela

  15. vto 18

    weka said above to try and not make this about us, which is right, but if I might diverge and run against the grain…..

    wtf is Key doing representing us on this.. John Key says that he cannot remember his position during the ’81 Springbok tour …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    extremes beget extremes

    • freedom 18.1

      Yup, even today, as the world mourns one of its greatest, Key’s ego is in full effect :(

      “I think it’s appropriate that, given the stature of such an incredible man and his deeds and achievements, that New Zealand should be represented by myself.” – Stuff
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/9485534/Mandela-mourned-by-Kiwis

      • amirite 18.1.1

        I can’t even

      • gobsmacked 18.1.2

        To our Prime Minister:

        I do not vote for your party, but I – and probably many more – will respect you if you can do what your friend David Cameron did in Britain, years ago …

        http://conservativehome.blogs.com/torydiary/images/theobserver_1.gif

        That would be a true tribute to Nelson Mandela.

      • Richard McGrath 18.1.3

        I think Key means NZ should be represented by the Prime Minister of the day, not by John Phillip Key.

        I respected Mandela for his restraint and moderation after taking power in South Africa. From a background as a political agitator in league with the local Communists, and with the ANC who took lessons in bombing from the IRA, and in interrogation from those nice humanitarians in the East German Stasi.

        And before anyone gets their panties in a lather, the above information came from:
        http://www.trevorloudon.com/2013/12/mandelas-passing-lets-not-deceive-ourselves/

        Unlike Key, I clearly remember where I stood in 1981. I had no time for the vandals and anarchists from the anti-tour faction who rejoiced in property destruction. While respecting the right of people to protest, I supported the Springbok tour and went to the Otago game. New Zealand had, earlier in the year, played Romania at rugby and I can’t recall protestors flooding the streets in disgust with the Ceaucescu dictatorship. I opposed the multi-nation boycott of the 1980 Moscow Olympics as I believe in freedom of association and was annoyed that athletes had had their careers affected by grandstanding politicians.

        Back to Mandela – the world has lost a great man, an icon. We will never see his like again. He makes President Zero look very ordinary indeed (which he is). I’ll raise a glass to him tonight.

        • Anne 18.1.3.1

          Just a point of clarification Richard McGrath:

          The vast majority of anti-apartheid protesters who went on those marches in 1981 were NOT vandals and anarchists. Indeed they were equally condemning of the bad behaviour and wanton property destruction. The problem at the time was that you and your pro-tour ilk attempted to paint all protesters as irresponsible vandals when the actual perpetrators could be numbered only in the dozens on each occasion. A misconception that was happily advanced by the police at the time resulting in serious physical harm to many innocent people.

          More than 30 years later and the police have still not said sorry to those victims.

          • Richard McGrath 18.1.3.1.1

            Actually, Anne, I have never said that the vandals and nihilists that were part of the anti-tour movement formed the majority or even a substantial part of that movement. But it must be conceded that there was property destruction and violence emanating from people on the anti-tour side of the fence. Please don’t generalise about pro-tour New Zealanders, just as I haven’t about anti-tour New Zealanders.

            • Colonial Viper 18.1.3.1.1.1

              There were also a lot of smashed faces and injuries caused by peeps on the pro-tour side of the system. For you to take the high ground over a few dollars worth of busted property would be typical, however. But thus is the nature of civil resistance, do you not understand?

            • Anne 18.1.3.1.1.2

              Please don’t generalise about pro-tour New Zealanders, just as I haven’t about anti-tour New Zealanders.

              Well, you certainly intimated as much by what you did say.

              How come just about every pro-tour person I knew… or heard on radio/television made a huge meal out of the property destruction etc. that took place, but conveniently ignored the far greater violence carried out by the police against many of the protestors?

              You will never admit it, but there was far more violence coming from pro-tour factions than there was from the protestors. Institutional or establishment violence is always seen as OK by political conservatives like yourself, but guess what… its no more okay than it is from the other side of the ledger.

              • Anne

                To back up my claim there was more violence on the pro tour side of the ledger…

                http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11169041

                ” I think that all those New Zealanders who got bashed by police, who got beaten up by pro-tour thugs and who went to hospital, who went to jail, and even the 12 brave people who marched in Nelson in 1981 – all those people can take real credit for the fact that in the darkest days of apartheid, little old New Zealand was able to punch a hole in the system and let some light through,” Mr Minto said.

              • Richard McGrath

                Don’t forget, the police were not part of the pro-tour faction, they were there to maintain law and order. When people start smashing the property of others, the police force’s job is to prevent further destruction and to arrest the perpetrators. As CV has commented, that’s the nature of civil resistance, do you not understand?

                • McFlock

                  Yes, clowns should be hit in the head with metal pipes (sorry, “batons”) to protect property.

                  • Richard McGrath

                    I think you need some context re what the clowns were doing. If they were violating the rights of other New Zealanders, then the police have a duty to bring any alleged perpetrators to justice (i.e. before a court) using an appropriate level of force. If said clowns are expressing themselves in ways that don’t hurt other people or their property, then there is no reason for the police to assault them with batons or in any other way.

                    I’m not altogether sure whether your comment meant people should not be brought to account for breaching the property rights of other people, or that police should not use inappropriate levels of retaliatory force in apprehending alleged criminals. I will assume the latter.

                    • mickysavage

                      So how much knowledge do you have about what the clowns were doing Richard? Knock yourself out. Detail everything that you know about their activities that day.

                    • McFlock

                      assume what you want, bucko.

                      The fact is that you keep mentioning “hurting people” and “hurting property” in the same breath as legitimate reasons to hit someone repeatedly with a metal bar. I reckon your perception might be a bit off.

                      Besides, you blather as if either people or property were in danger when the cops started hitting protestors. Mind you, the protestors were in the street, so next you’ll be saying that it’s okay to club people for jaywalking.

                    • Richard McGrath

                      [Off topic - MS]

                    • McFlock

                      [edit] gah my bad, sorry forgot the post topic. I’m a dick

                      [No problems, we all get trapped in these sorts of arguments - MS]

                • Anne

                  Had the misfortune to be associated with your kind before RM. How about you shove off and take your supercilious (everybody, I am just so superior) and arrogant attitude with you.

                • greywarbler

                  The Simpsons cartoons could be spot on for dialogue and situations. This matches the police attitude encouraged in the OTT display of authority to the anti- tour protesters.

                  They came to let Bart ride with them. Homer lets Bart go. “Maybe this’ll
                  straighten the boy out.”
                  Bart: Wow! Can I see your club?
                  Cop: It’s called a baton, son.
                  Bart: Oh. What’s it for?
                  Cop: We club people with it.
                  — Just conduct yourself properly and nobody gets hurt.

                  “Well, it’s about time!” notes the across-the-street neighbor as she
                  watches the two cops taking Bart away.
                  Bart: So, you guys like being cops?
                  Cop: Oh, it’s great. You get to run red lights, park wherever you please,
                  hot and cold running chicks…
                  — The perquisites of power,

                  It would be funny if it only occurred in cartoons.

              • swordfish

                Spot on, Anne.

                Very little violence from the anti-Tour side until the final Test in Auckland (and, even then, only from a relatively small element surrounding the gangs). In stark contrast, violence from the Police and Tour supporters was brutal and systematic throughout July, August and early September.

                At the age of 17, I marched during the Second Test in Wellington. It was only through a stroke of luck that I missed being layed into with batons by the Red/Blue squads. Many ordinary citizens – including late-middle-age women, for instance – were violently assaulted by the Police that day.

                Then once the game was over, as we headed back to central Wellington, the Blue Squad allowed the mass of the rugby crowd to move in ahead of us and hurl a rain of broken-beer-bottle-missiles down on protesters, including women, the elderly and children (many of whom, like me, were not protected by crash helmets).

                Both the police and the pro-Tour brigade came across as self-righteous thugs, doing God’s work by beating the flying shit out of protesters.

                • Anne

                  Thanks swordfish.

                  I watched with horror as the Red Squad (I presume) laid into a group of protestors at the final test match in Auckland. I saw several being assisted away with bloodied heads and in one instance blood pouring out of his ear. It so shocked me to see the police behaving like that I quickly departed the scene shaking like a leaf. I might add they looked like decent young men – probably students – and I did not see any of them acting violently in the lead up minutes to the attack. Doing a lot of shouting perhaps but that was all…

                  • mickysavage

                    Yep my father witnessed the clown bashing. He still shakes his head today about what happened. Despite his recording the number of one of the police officers involved no officer was ever penalised although the police were successfully sued by the clowns.

                    And that afternoon was one of the most interesting afternoons of my life …

                  • swordfish

                    Cheers, Anne.

                    I should, though, slightly correct John Minto (in the quote you’ve given).

                    When Minto mentions “… the 12 brave people who marched in Nelson in 1981…”, he’s obviously confusing that city with the notorious incident in the little Taranaki town of Eltham, where 12 lone protesters were set upon by what appeared to be the whole town. Nelson, by contrast, was quite a hive of anti-Tour activity, with polls suggesting it was one of the great strongholds of anti-Tour sentiment in the Country.

                • Richard McGrath

                  Can we agree that there were individuals in both the pro-tour and anti-tour factions, and the police, who were less than angelic, and leave it there?

              • Richard McGrath

                I’m afraid you’re wrong there, Anne. Violence is unacceptable from whatever source. Libertarians include in that statement violence by the state against the smallest minority, the individual.

                I can’t be sure where most of the violence in 1981 emanated from, but it was ugly and unforgettable.

                • lprent

                  In my case the only violence I saw was from a police baton thumping me after a rather boring few hours at the third test. I also saw the aftermath when some drunk rugby supporters in Hamilton decided to attack a student halls after the game got cancelled there.

                  There was quite a lot of padding put on after the first times that the police decided that a good batoning was all that citizens needed to stop protesting. Didn’t use it myself.

                  And I heard a lot of pathetic dickheads like yourself trying to tell me that I shouldn’t be allowed to express my distaste for those in NZ who were supporting a arsehole regime in South Africa. But that was mostly from fools watching TV selectively reporting the exciting bits.

                  • Richard McGrath

                    I’ve repeatedly tried to make it clear I support the right of people to protest peacefully, which you appear to have deliberately ignored. And supporting individual rights in New Zealand does not equate with opposing them in South Africa, not that you would ever acknowledge that.

                    • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                      Treating your odious dogma with ridicule and contempt is a direct attack on your freedom of speech I expect, and means we’re all fascists.

                      Somewhere, there’s a violin small enough to play that tune.

                    • Arfamo

                      @ OAK :)

                    • lprent

                      Hell I protested peacefully. Got batoned for it in Auckland apparently by a police officer who was on duty in Christchurch – at least that was what the police complaints said that was where that badge number was that day.

                      Your tone throughout the discussion here has come across that the act of peacefully protesting is an incitement for others to act violently. Why? Just as an observation – you haven’t mentioned a single thing that indicates that you have *any* actual personal knowledge of any case where protesting has been violent. You’d just going on your gut feelings that have no basis apart from a simple bigotry.

                      I haven’t seen protesters indulging in violence during almost any of the innumerable protests I’ve been in (the exception being the Queen Street one in the early 80’s that I got caught in). What I have seen a lot of is genteel dickheads like yourself (and Jock Anderson) excusing the idiot rugby supporters spitting and throwing things, walking over peoples properties, police indulging themselves with batons, arrests of silly charges, etc etc. I’ve also seen probably 95% of all charges laid against protesters completely fail in the courts. Meanwhile

                      Meanwhile morons like yourself keep saying the same stupid things over and over again… For instance.

                      If said clowns are expressing themselves in ways that don’t hurt other people or their property, then there is no reason for the police to assault them with batons or in any other way.

                      Any half-literate person can look up and find out exactly what those clowns were doing on that day. You don’t have to speculate.

                      They were standing on the side of the road making a mockery as a statement. That included of the police. You can find video footage in the links on the right of this site. You can find journalists who made statements. You can find histories detailing their every move on that day. Presumably the mockery was why the police batoned the crap out of them – just as they did to me and everyone else on that street that day.

                      It takes a particular kind of pompous git to so blithely pontificate and comment on things that are so easy to look up. So with all of your theoretical wankery, I guess you’ll have a problem understanding the contempt for you that the people who have been doing crap for social and political change forever have for your pious waffle.

                      I’m tired of all you bods being nice to this fool.

            • Arfamo 18.1.3.1.1.3

              Please don’t generalise about pro-tour New Zealanders, just as I haven’t about anti-tour New Zealanders.

              Yes you did, you just did it very subtly. There was no need to mention “the vandals and anarchists from the anti-tour faction who rejoiced in property destruction” to make the point you say you wanted to make. It’s called dog-whistling I believe.

              • Richard McGrath

                [Last chance oh libertarian party one - MS]

                • Richard McGrath

                  MS – thanks for acknowledging that I am libertarian; someone on this thread labelled me a conservative. Heaven forbid.

        • greywarbler 18.1.3.2

          Richard McGrath
          NZ protesters didn’t come out against Romania. You thought they should as people (not you) should sacrifice their time and lives fighting all the wrongs in the world, and risk injury and loss of jobs and living plus the time and cash required to participate.

          While you sit back and from your rational elevated perspective gaze on the spectacle and critique it from an aesthetic, ethical and legal viewpoint. Not only a padded fence sitter, and unwilling to make any sacrifices of your favourite things, you consider yourself superior to those moral protesters.

          You ‘believe in freedom of association’ and you were annoyed that athletes couldn’t do what they wanted in the 1980 Moscow Olympics, ie to compete for their nation and achieve personal and national honour.

          When the nation decided it was the right political thing not to compete, that was for the nation to decide, not the athletes who perform as their nation’s citizens. It is good you agree with freedom of association – most of the anti-tour protesters would not wish to be forced to mix with you

          • Richard McGrath 18.1.3.2.1

            Greywarbler, firstly the grammatical style of your post makes parts of it difficult to understand.

            You seem to have misread what I said – I thought anyone concerned with breaches of civil rights in South Africa might also be concerned with civil rights violations in Romania.

            [This is meant to be a flame free discussion Richard. And it is a left wing blog so expecting people to agree with a far right view of the world is a real stretch. Please moderate your comments and leave out the communist theory stuff - MS]

            • Pascal's bookie 18.1.3.2.1.1

              Or maybe the iron curtain and the fact of the cold war meant that protest action was kind of futile.

              SA was under a fairly widespread sporting boycott, which the tour was breaching, that could be a part of it too. Context is kind of important Richard.

              But if we are talking about consistency, I’ll just note that you didn’t care to highlight the organised state violence against persons involved in tour protests, seemingly more concerned about violence against property.

              But I suppose that’s perhaps a blind spot of your libertarianism, I’ve noticed before that with regard to SA under apartheid so called libertarians seemed more concerned about potential ‘communism’ than the actual existing deprivations of rights.

              And I suppose that’s just a coincidence with the history libertarians have in the US of supporting, and seeking support from, those who try to rewrite the history of that country’s civil war.

              And while Loudon may or may not be racist, he is most certainly a swivel eyed loon, as anyone familiar with either his history or work can attest. I understand he is making a living on the US loon circuit these days pimping birther theories and the like to the right wing’s more gullible credit cards holders.

              • Richard McGrath

                PB, for the record I absolutely support the right of people to protest peacefully, and abhor violence by agents of the state against peaceful people. Nowhere have I come out in support of indiscriminate violence by the police against civilians, so I’m afraid your conclusions are rather ill-founded. I notice with some disappointment and surprise that your apparent ad hominem attack on Trevor Loudon stands unchallenged by the moderator, but that is his/her prerogative.

                • Pascal's bookie

                  “Nowhere have I come out in support of indiscriminate violence by the police against civilians”

                  I never said you would be so foolish, I merely noted that that aspect was missing from your telling.

                  Just as you noted that people didn’t mention Romania. I also provided reasons why there were no protests against Romania. primarily because there was no equivalent of the Glenn Eagles agreement in play. We had signed this agreement and the tour was a clear breach of it. Context, Richard.

                  My observations are not conclusions, they are observations.

                  And anyone can check Loudon’s output. It’s a matter of public record. calling him a swivel eyed loon is an attack on that work. It may be an ad hom attack, but it is not an ad hom argument:

                  1) Bizarre conspiratorial work is produced by people who can fairly be described as swivel eyed loons.
                  2) Members of sects too out there for the Scientologists can fairly be described as swivel eyed loons.
                  3) Loudon produces Bizarre conspiratorial work and is a member of a sect too out there for the Scientologists.

                  ergo

                  4) Loudon is a swivel eyed loon. (1,2,3 via modus ponens).

                  note that there is nothing actually wrong with being a swivel eyed loon. Let a thousand lunacies bloom. But quoting them as authorities is an exercise in freedom of association that comes with consequences to one’s own credibility.

            • Richard McGrath 18.1.3.2.1.2

              MS, I accept your decision as moderator (I support private but not public censorship) but am disappointed not to be able to advance arguments that might allow me to then read responses which could challenge my political standpoint and force me to re-examine my premises and assumptions. I do, however, feel that your refusal to allow dissenting comments leaves this blog open to accusations (often made about other blogs) that it is an “echo chamber” for a particular political point of view. I enjoy political debate, but can see that The Standard is not a forum for debate. I thank you for publishing the comments that did pass moderation. I regret “flaming” anyone; if I did this was unintentional, as I meant to play the ball and not the man so to speak.

              • Pascal's bookie

                Before you martyr yourself, this is nonsense:

                ” I do, however, feel that your refusal to allow dissenting comments leaves this blog open to accusations (often made about other blogs) that it is an “echo chamber” for a particular political point of view. I enjoy political debate, but can see that The Standard is not a forum for debate. I thank you for publishing the comments that did pass moderation. I regret “flaming” anyone; if I did this was unintentional, as I meant to play the ball and not the man so to speak.”

                there is no refusal to allow dissenting voices here, as can be seen on any given thread. You’ll note that most of those other blogs who claim that about the standard are far more monolithic in their own comment sections, with the debate that is to be had mostly revolving around biblical interpretation, who hates Muslims the most, National party tactics, or a rehash of climate science had between the same people everytime.

                As for you playing the ball, you suggested that people didn’t protest against Romania because they had sympathy for communism. That is almost a text book definition of playing the man not the ball, and it is what you were called out on by the mod.

        • Murray Olsen 18.1.3.3

          Nelson Mandela was possibly the greatest and most noble human being who I am aware of during my lifetime.
          Trevor Loudon is not worthy of Madiba’s navel lint, nor his toe jam. Why, in a thread in homage to Madiba, are we inflicted with the ravings of the lunatic fringe? Loudon is a racist moron who found a home with the vilest elements of the American TeaBaggers. What are his filthy words doing here, despoiling this solemn occasion?

          • Richard McGrath 18.1.3.3.1

            Which parts of Trevor Loudon’s commentary do you find “filthy”, “vile”, and please cite evidence of his racism – a serious charge. Please provide links to racist statements from Mr Loudon, or withdraw and apologise. Put up or shut up.

            Mr Lprent, why are you not moderating Mr Olsen’s unsubstantiated utterances?

            [Unsubstiantiated and extreme right wing views will be moderated - MS]

            • Colonial Viper 18.1.3.3.1.1

              Richard McGrath, is this your blog? No? Why are you telling lprent how to do his job then?

              • Richard McGrath

                Please read my comments again, Mr/Ms Viper. I am not telling the owner of this blog anything; I am asking him a question in the hope that like me, others will expected to back up their claims by way of a reference. Your indignant tone is completely unnecessary at this point. Please stick to the subject of Nelson Mandela, as you do appear to be taking this thread elsewhere with your comments above.

            • Richard McGrath 18.1.3.3.1.2

              Just for interest’s sake, MS – will extreme left-wing views be tolerated?

              [You occupy a strange world where there are extremists to the left and right and some mythical correct position in the middle. Your trumpeting that Mandela was a communist is an example of this, as is your misinformed claim that protestors against the Springbok tour were law breakers and property damagers. I corrected Morrissey and he accepted it. I would invite you to do the same - MS]

              • Richard McGrath

                MS – thanks for your comments. I guess there are various ways of representing differing political points of view and agree with you that a two-dimensional line is an inadequate paradigm. The three dimensional left-right and authoritarian-libertarian plane allows more accurate representation of the overall flavour of an individual or political party. But I feel I must point out that it was in fact you that used the phrase “extreme right wing views”, implying (to me anyway) that far away lurked a number of extreme left wing views.

                I’m not sure I ever claimed Mandela was a communist (though some people do make this claim, and I’m aware that Mandela rejected this assertion) – there is little doubt, however that the ANC and SACP were very close in their objectives and there was a fair degree of co-operation between the two organisations. To claim that ALL anti-tour protestors were violent thugs would be ludicrous, as a comment I made (unfortunately censored out) tried to illustrate.

            • Murray Olsen 18.1.3.3.1.3

              I find all parts of Loudon’s commentaries filthy and vile. As for racism, I doubt that there is a definition that you and I could agree on, so I can’t be bothered providing links. You wouldn’t recognise the racism in them, although you possibly think Te Tiriti imposes apartheid on our society and Maori seats are racist. It’d be like discussing quantum mechanics with someone who had never read anything but Harry Potter.

    • expatriot 18.2

      This Guardian article from June sums up both the Tory’s in Britain and, by proxy, the Nats here: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jun/26/remember-tories-nelson-mandela-apartheid

      As per Philip Matthews on Twitter (copied from Bryce Edwards at http://t.co/buPL0JFuBP):

      Philip Matthews (‏@secondzeit):

      How many current NZ politicians supported the 1981 Springbok Tour? Gerry Brownlee was one. I interviewed him in 2009. He said “I supported the tour. I have to say that towards the end of that tour I was of a view that perhaps it wasn’t worth the effort. But you can’t give in to the mobsters who went from one end of the country to the other wreaking havoc. There are a lot of people who try to justify what I consider to be totally irrational behaviour by saying this was a seminal moment in New Zealand history and they were part of it. It’s absolute garbage.” (Brownlee, 2009)

      • Murray Olsen 18.2.1

        “But you can’t give in to the mobsters who went from one end of the country to the other wreaking havoc.”

        Does this mean Gerry Brownlee wanted to see the Red Squad prosecuted for their assaults? Or is he talking about the NZRFU?

  16. amirite 19

    Nelson Mandela becomes the first politician to be missed

    http://bit.do/eLbQ

    • ghostrider888 19.1

      tear-promoting link

    • Morrissey 19.2

      Nelson Mandela becomes the first politician to be missed

      Wrong. Another massively popular democratic hero died in March—Hugo Chávez. Although, like Mandela, he was vilified and scorned by leading politicians in the United States, the United Kingdom and the rest of the gang, including—to our shame—New Zealand.

      I wonder if Jim Mora and his guests are going to snicker and guffaw about Mandela like they did after Chávez’s death.

      • Rogue Trooper 19.2.1

        attention to differentiation; helpful with diagnosis.

        • Morrissey 19.2.1.1

          The only differentiation here is that Mandela was no longer an official US/UK target—the U.S. still classified him as a “terrorist” until a few years ago. If he was still an officially sanctioned target, you could guarantee that Mora and his guests would be chortling and guffawing and trying to outdo each other in cracking irreverent jokes about him, just as they did on the day Hugo Chávez died.

          • fender 19.2.1.1.1

            Did you read it Morrissey?
            This sums up the reasoning behind the statement: ” “Certainly people have felt a sense of sorrow at the deaths of politicians in the past, but Nelson Mandela’s death is the only one on record that people everywhere unanimously agree has left the world notably worse off. I miss him, we all miss him—and that’s entirely unprecedented in the world of politics.”

          • greywarbler 19.2.1.1.2

            You have already been asked to stick to Mandela Morrissey, I brought up another black South African. Let’s stick to thinking about South Africa and its freedom from aparthheid, not South America. Two different places! One particular man and his time is what it’s about.

      • Richard McGrath 19.2.2

        Morrissey I think some of the vilification of Chavez following his demise may have been

        [Richard - please read my note above. This is meant to be a respectful discussion about Nelson Mandela's life and attempts to sideline it into arguments about South America or anywhere else in the world is off topic and will not be accepted - MS]

        • Richard McGrath 19.2.2.1

          Sorry – I assumed that because Morrissey was permitted to post comments re Chavez, that some latitude was being given re the subject matter of the thread. Clearly not, and I will confine further comments to the subject of Nelson Mandela’s life and death. Morrissey’s comments above comparing an entity such as Hugo Chavez to Nelson Mandela will therefore have to sit unchallenged. I accept your call on this.

    • Richard McGrath 19.3

      “Nelson Mandela becomes the first politician to be missed”

      I have to disagree – what about Michael Joseph Savage?

  17. Rosie 20

    Thank you Mickey. The quote was beautiful and perfect, I have some tears.

    Much respect.

    RIP Great Man.

  18. Tracey 21

    Title:
    I am prepared to die
    Sub-title:
    Nelson Mandela’s statement from the dock at the opening of the defence case in the Rivonia Trial

    http://db.nelsonmandela.org/speeches/pub_view.asp?pg=item&ItemID=NMS010&txtstr=1963

    I put him ahead of Martin Luther King, as seemingly a genuinely selfess leader. They are rare indeed.

    being appointed leader is not the same as being a leader. We do not need look farther than Mandela and our own country to see this.

    Includes

    “I have fought against white domination, and I have fought against black domination. I have cherished the ideal of a democratic and free society in which all persons will live together in harmony and with equal opportunities. It is an ideal for which I hope to live for and to see realised. But, My Lord, if it needs be, it is an ideal for which I am prepared to die.”

  19. Tracey 22

    will any journo have the balls to re-ask key where he stood on the 81 tour?

    “* “Like slavery and apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is people who have made poverty and tolerated poverty, and it is people who will overcome it. And overcoming poverty is not a gesture of charity. It is an act of justice. It is the protection of a fundamental human right, the right to dignity and a decent life” – Ambassador of Conscience Award Acceptance Speech, November 01, 2006″

    • Richard McGrath 22.1

      Not sure I agree that “poverty is not natural”. For any individual, good health, nutrition and the acquisition of material wealth require purposeful work, i.e. effort on the part of each individual (or someone on their behalf) to accumulate the means to address issues of hunger, poverty and disease.

      Poverty is the default position of every person unless he/she or someone else makes an effort to alleviate it.

  20. North 24

    There is something seminally wrong about the great photo-opper Key representing this Kiwi (and every other Kiwi of course) at Nelson Mandela’s funeral. There must be hundreds on hundreds of thousands who know that Key lies when he says he can’t recall about what he was thinking in ’81.

    Worse when accordingly we just know what he was thinking when the psychotic Thatcher denounced Nelson Mandela as a terrorist.

    I’ll be mollified somewhat when he takes John Minto with him. Formally announced as an official representative of Aotearoa New Zealand.

    Now that WOULD be honouring Nelson Mandela !!!

    • LynWiper 24.1

      +1 I like this suggestion North.

    • ScottGN 24.2

      John Minto to represent Aotearoa NZ would be my pick too.

    • Murray Olsen 24.3

      One way to honour Madiba and his spirit of forgiveness and reconciliation would be to send John Minto and Ross Meurant as representatives. Key should not go at all. If he couldn’t make it to the next country for Hugo Chavez, why should we pay for him to travel half way across the world for Mandela?

      • greywarbler 24.3.1

        MO
        It seems that Ross Meurant has gnme through some great changes. He has been affected too by the Mandela magic. Good idea about him and John Minto. But no. It will be useful for Key to rub shoulders with other nations reps and possibly he’ll look at his soul but is more likely to hope for a diamond on the sole of his shoe.

  21. Maybe we can honor Nelson Mandela by having two threads, one thread for genuine posts honoring the man, and one to take political pot shots at people you dont like.

    • North 25.1

      I’ve taken no pot-shots at you Brett Dale.

      And I certainly don’t like you.

      Bad case of projection there BD.

      You are SO mealy-mouthed John Key.

      Fuck off with your well thumbed Crosby Textor manual !

      You needn’t bother coming back with war stories.

      ‘Bout what YOU did in 1981.

      Makes no diff’.

      You’re the solemn John Key

      And pompous

      All wrapped up

      In one

      Mind own biz’.

    • gobsmacked 25.2

      How should we honour the man, Brett? By pretending he was non-political? Just a nice old fellow, who everyone loved.

      Your comment is the 2013 equivalent of “Sport and Politics don’t mix”. If you believe that, you need to read Nelson.

      • Morrissey 25.2.1

        He does not read anything, gobsmacked. Isn’t that obvious?

      • Brett Dale 25.2.2

        GobSmacked:

        Honor the man by mentioning his achievements and what he did for the world. Perhaps Open Mike is the best place to mention the politicians and the people who didnt stand for what he stood for.

        • North 25.2.2.1

          Open Mike ? Why ? To comment re Thatcher and others who screamed “Terrorist !” fails to honour ? Is disrespectful ?

          Good wishes for Sunday sermon in that rural Dutch-named church, Vicar Afrikaaner.

          Why the fuck should I oblige you pompous one ? When to do so would be to miss the man and play ritualistic little sympathy card games. And allow you to “play”. Go away !

    • North 25.3

      PS Brett Dale – surely you understand that Thatcher was a vivid portrayal of everything Nelson Mandela stood seminally hard against ?

      Mention of Thatcher and John Key’s thinking in 1981 is indispensable to remind that Nelson Mandela was if not the greatest then certainly amongst a handful few of the greatest of the 20th century.

      Waddya want ? A thread full of sympathy cards and lilies and John Key Solemn on TV3 News few hours ago ?

      With a dead straight face telling us he had “a quite intimate relationship” with Nelson Mandela. Little Churchil smells aircraft fuel and foreign air and rears his fucked little head again !

      I do honour Nelson Mandela. I’m not sure you truly do.

      • Richard McGrath 25.3.1

        Please elaborate on your interesting claim that essentially reads that Thatcher was the antithesis of Mandela.

  22. Again RIP Nelson Mandela, you had Dignity.

    • North 26.1

      Ha, you don’t respond except to paint a caraciture of yourself as an unctuous vicar believing he drips with dignity fulsomely delivering condolences. But ya still support all the stuff Nelson Mandela stood hard against. Piss off fool. This is no more than a royal wedding in the true hearts of you and John Key.

      How could you purport to honour Nelson Mandela from a twisted right-wing mindset ?

      [OK Flame wars can happen over at http://thestandard.org.nz/hypocrisy-watch/ Because of the subject matter of this post I expect the discussion to be civil although I agree that Key's particular episode of amnesia is a relevant topic of discussion - MS]

      • Brett Dale 26.1.1

        North:

        I was a kid but i protested against the 81 tour.

        I was against the Iraq war.

        Please provide an example of me standing for things that Mandela was against.

      • Brett Dale 26.1.2

        North:

        Pro Choice
        Pro Gay Marriage
        Anti Iraq War
        Believe in man made climate change
        Pro anti Nuclear stance
        Believe everybody should have the right to join a union.
        Believe the minimum wage should be higher.

        Al the Americans I admire are all democrats, so how am
        I right wing?

        • North 26.1.2.1

          Noted your bold at 26.1 above MS. Fair enough. One final thing. Don’t think my soul has no sense for de Klerke.

          [May he rot in hell! - MS]

          • Morrissey 26.1.2.1.1

            Mickey, with the greatest of respect, why is your comment about de Klerk—“May he rot in hell!”—acceptable on this thread, which yesterday you insisted was not for anything other than “respectful comments”? You peremptorily excised three of my posts on this thread yesterday; not one of them was as disrespectful or inflammatory as your “rot in hell” quip.

  23. mac1 27

    When my father died my older brothers gave me the chance to give the eulogy at his funeral. One of the things that brought me closer to my father was his chance comment that Mandela was a great man. My father has never discussed apartheid or South Africa in any way that gave an inkling of his regard for Nelson Mandela. I was quite surprised.

    In the eulogy, I spoke of this admiration and echoed the words of one of the psalms where ‘deep calls to deep’- that is, the depth of Mandela’s humanity spoke to that same depth within my father, a depth which we all enjoy and which prickles my eyes now when I think of both my father and the father of the South African nation, Nelson Mandela.

    That is why I will honour any positive comment about Mandela from Obama, or Key or any other on this blog. Whilst the depth of Mandela’s spirit and character speaks to any of these people, even if we might disagree with what they believe or stand for, it does reflect our common humanity and gives hope that such people might too encompass more of that humanity and that spirit of compassion and peace.

    That I hope is Mandela’s legacy- deep calling to deep.

  24. Anne 28

    At the beginning of the last but one millennium there was a gentleman called Jesus of Nazareth. He stood up for the poor and dispossessed and was loved by his people who regarded him as their saviour. At the beginning of a new millennium there is another gentleman called Nelson Mandela. He stood up for the poor and dispossessed and is loved by his people who regard him as their saviour.

  25. rhinocrates 29

    I can’t say that I’m mourning, exactly, because I’m not shocked… He was a great man, he did great things… and he was very old and unwell, so this was inevitable.

    I think that what I feel is a kind of amazement that I saw history unfold, that I saw the life of a great man.

    Everyone dies, but Nelson Mandela lived a long and good life, became and exemplar and saw his triumph in his own time – which is very rare. Fate rewarded him.

    We should not be sad that he has at last died, but thankful that he lived so well.

  26. TheContrarian 30

    The leader of the DA (Democratic Alliance) Lindiwe Mazibuko, is South Africa’s only true opposition party. Here she is on HardTalk – South Africa’s future is not with the ANC, but with the youth…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HurIWg2VwRQ

  27. Outofbed 31

    no point in Key going to the funeral as he wouldn’t be able to recall if he went or not

  28. Morrissey 32

    BBC obituaries for Hugo Chavez and Nelson Mandela

    A perfect salvo of BBC propaganda, the hero gets slated and the good friend of global capital eulogised.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-22892784

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13928049

    http://members5.boardhost.com/medialens/msg/1386366295.html

  29. Rogue Trooper 33

    “…he accepted that fate had decreed he be a servant of the people…”
    -John Armstrong.
    ( The Herald )

    • rhinocrates 33.1

      Oh fucking Hell, Armstrong once again jerking off about how he was thiiiiiis close to someone IMPORTANT. Give me a break.

  30. greywarbler 34

    What a man Mandela was. All that struggling, the oppression of the black people, the lies, discrimination and violence of the majority in power yet he and all the others persevered. The ANC kept on with their plan for betterment despite many differing personalities and opinions. The differing opinions arose just as on this thread with some straying from concentrating on Mandela, South Africa and what NZ did to advance his cause and all South African black people.

    He was a unifying symbol working along with those who brought into being the Truth and Reconciliation approach to lance the boil of the legacy of poison made up of hate and anger and vicious defiance of the mainly white forces of power, torture and oppression.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission_(South_Africa)
    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/Mandelas-precious-legacy-saluted—234738431.html

    The transition to a mixed race democracy was done with a minimum of violence. The crime rate rose as the never-had aspired to be the haves. That was inevitable. But the beautiful music that always came from South Africa celebrates the good that has come. The music endures and Mandela enabled it to become a celebration of happiness, and hope for better things. Sing sweetly, sing joyfully for Mandela and all the fighters and seekers for a positive future.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP9bYfsbTU4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGPuKwj0GNI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pVzWtkKZ-I
    Ladysmith http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkRWNrfXJaQ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCa4SfyY42Y&list=PL28915B84D8213941&index=5
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooHsKZJqpT0

  31. I have been privileged to have lived at the same time as two of the worlds greatest men/

    • Gandhi and Mandela .Will there be another man or woman like these two before I go?

      • Colonial Viper 35.1.1

        Don’t forget MLK. And perhaps the Dalai Lama. It’s not many.

        Edward Snowden reminds us that there are bright stars amongst the younger generation too.

      • greywarbler 35.1.2

        Would the long nightwatch on democracy in Burma give Aung San Suu Kyi that distinction?

  32. The introduction of neo-liberal reforms by the ANC, created, as they have in New Zealand and every other country that has gone down that path – ‘economic apartheid’ ie: ‘war on the poor’.

    For your consideration – another view – from South Africa.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/mandela-led-fight-against-apartheid-but-not-against-extreme-inequality/5360540?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=mandela-led-fight-against-apartheid-but-not-against-extreme-inequality

    Patrick Bond is the Director of the Center for Civil Society and Professor at the University of KwaZulu-Natal in South Africa. Bond is the author and editor of the recently released books, Politics of Climate Justice and Durban’s Climate Gamble.

    “Mandela deserves great credit for ending racial apartheid in South Africa, but his legacy includes the continuation of mass poverty

    ‘The mood here in South Africa is terribly somber.

    This was the day that everyone knew would come. And in the last few months Mandela’s been in hospital four times.

    But it’s hard to come to grips with the loss of someone who has ruled in a moral and spiritual way just as much as in a political way in his first five years as the president of the Democratic South Africa in 1994 to ’99.”

    Penny Bright
    1981 Springbok Tour protestor

  33. Papa Tuanuku 37

    not remembering 1981 would be like not remembering your 21st or your wedding. everyone old enough to remember 1981 will remember the vibes of division. anyone that can’t say where they stood is lying.

    • Richard McGrath 37.1

      I agree, and think it’s bizarre that Key either can’t remember or didn’t form an opinion at the time.

      • Arfamo 37.1.1

        It’s not bizarre, it simply lacks any credibility at all.

        • Richard McGrath 37.1.1.1

          It is bizarre AND lacks credibility!

          • Arfamo 37.1.1.1.1

            It’s not bizarre. It’s too typical of Key to be bizarre. He obviously perceives revealing his view to be a threat from either side of the argument so has a brain fade. Standard Operating Procedure for Key when faced with a question the honest answer to which could be a problem.

          • felix 37.1.1.1.2

            “It is bizarre AND lacks credibility!”

            Indeed Richard, I think the bizarre part is that he thought “I don’t remember” was a credible answer.

  34. greywarbler 38

    R McGrath has had about 25 comments on this thread of 142. A sizable amount and it is interesting that his little nit-picking brain regards a thread mainly devoted to commemorating Mandela as an opportunity to spread his lacklustre view of the world. Interested in the tales of protesters trying to overcome aparthheid and celebrating that success, he is not.

    It all demonstrates the struggle and difficulty of getting the self-centred to feel concern for others and to sacrifice anything in a fight largely symbolic rather than with violence, even to make a strong potest that was known would bruise the South African government.

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    Hot Topic | 30-10
  • West Auckland Network with new interchanges
    Last week Auckland Transport began consultation on the new network for West Auckland. I and many readers were highly critical of it as it seemed to ignore much of the network design philosophy and elements AT are implementing elsewhere and...
    Transport Blog | 30-10
  • This ‘boom’ might save the world – 10 quick facts about r...
    As the world's leading climate scientists finalise the latest and most comprehensive report on climate change and ways to tackle it, a key question is: What is new? What has changed since the release of the UN climate panel's last Assessment Report (AR4) in...
    Greenpeace NZ blog | 30-10
  • A lack of commitment
    New Zealand has finally joined the Open Government Partnership. A requirement of membership is to submit an action plan about how you will improve open government over the next two years. So what's in ours? Sweet fuck-all:Our Action Plan will...
    No Right Turn | 30-10
  • Smartphones are meant to bend
    You’ve no doubt heard of the issues surrounding the newly released iPhone 6, but do […] The post Smartphones are meant to bend appeared first on Connected....
    Potentia | 30-10
  • Tea Party takes on “President Obola”
    OK, so this happened: Theatricality is one of the best ways to shake the sleepwalking public awake. One brave liberty advocate made a bold statement when he donned a Hazmat suit and an Obama mask, and took to the president’s...
    Polity | 30-10
  • CTU welcomes forestry review recommendations
    The CTU is welcoming the today's release of the independent forestry safety review panel findings. "These recommendations must be implemented to ensure that everything possible is done to make forestry safer." CTU President, Helen Kelly said.  Photo:  ...
    CTU | 30-10
  • Herald vs Hosking-in-Herald on teabreaks
    The New Zealand Herald editorial today is distinctly unimpressed with the government’s decision to remove mandated tea breaks for workers: It is a pity that almost the first legislative act of the Government's new term is an act abolishing mandatory...
    Polity | 30-10
  • Forest Safety report first step in making our forests safe to work in
    Our forests are a very dangerous place to work. Between 2008 and 2013 there have been 32 fatalities and more than a thousand serious harm incidents in this industry. The Council of Trade Unions and First union have been doing...
    frogblog | 30-10
  • Ghost Dancing?
    Ghost Dancing circa 1890: With the buffalo effectively exterminated, the material basis for the Native American cultures of the Great Plains was destroyed. The Ghost Dance, it was believed, would reconstitute the basis for an independent indigenous existence. Has the...
    Bowalley Road | 30-10
  • I have seen one future, and it is bleak
    . . Way back in March, 2012,  I wrote this story regarding a march to support striking workers at Ports of Auckland. It appears there was some prescience about some of my observations at the time… . | | 18...
    Frankly Speaking | 30-10
  • WINZ: Bureaucratic Befuddlement and Confustication
    Yeah, I know. Confusticate isn’t a word, unless you’re quoting Urban Dictionary. Definition: This word is the coalescing of the English words “confuse” and “complicate”. It refers to anything of, or relating to the process of being both confused and...
    On the Left | 30-10
  • The idiot
    Here’s why this Steffan Browning/Ebola/Homeopathy thing is a really big deal for the Green Party. (a) Historically they’ve been stereotyped by their opponents as a bunch of nutters (b) The main focus of the party for the past five years –...
    DimPost | 30-10
  • The idiot
    Here’s why this Steffan Browning/Ebola/Homeopathy thing is a really big deal for the Green Party. (a) Historically they’ve been stereotyped by their opponents as a bunch of nutters (b) The main focus of the party for the past five years –...
    DimPost | 30-10
  • Climate change and New Zealand cities
    Environmentalists sometimes have an uneasy relationship with cities. Because they concentrate a lot of people and economic activity in relatively small places, they also concentrate a lot of negative environmental effects. All that concrete, all that energy being consumed, the...
    Transport Blog | 30-10
  • Got a mystery? Just ask John!
    Tuesday, November 24, 2009John Key has learned the identity of the entertainer guilty of an indecency charge through the grapevine of people circumventing the suppression order....
    Pundit | 30-10
  • Shameful attack on all workers
    The Government has passed the Employment Relations Amendment Act slashing the rights of all Kiwi workers. “These changes are shameful. New Zealand now has some of the worst employment protections in the OECD....
    CTU | 30-10
  • Blocked
    It is safe to say before the election last month I was fairly prolific in the blogosphere as we headed to an election. Was it because there was a glimmer of hope for we on this side of the coin?...
    My Thinks | 30-10
  • Blend with the Bruntletts Group Ride
    While Vancourerites Chris and Melissa Bruntlett are here for their Auckland Conversation talk, Generation Zero, Frocks on Bikes and TransportBlog have organised a slow, family friendly ride around the city centre. The map is below. The ride is designed to be self-directed so...
    Transport Blog | 30-10
  • Rawshark – Is she Maori or Pakeha?
    Cameron Slater blamed someone for being behind the hacking of his emails and passing them on to Nicky Hager. And then he named someone he thought was Rawshark. John Key says someone told him who Rawshark is but he ain’t telling. @B3nRaching3r is...
    Te Putatara | 30-10
  • Employment law: it’s toasted
    In an early episode of Mad Men, when the company’s going for the Lucky Strike account, sleazebag antihero Don Draper asks the client exactly how cigarettes are made. They talk through the process, mentioning the tobacco is toasted – and...
    On the Left | 30-10
  • Owners of the wind
    Thirty-odd years ago in the Kingdom of Denmark lived some brave people who disliked nuclear power and loved renewable energy. Determined to keep their country clean and safe, they began building their own wind turbines. Today, thanks to these passionate...
    Greenpeace NZ blog | 30-10
  • Te Wakaputanga – What we did not learn at school
    This week saw the 179th anniversary of the signing of Te Wakaputanga, the Declaration of Independence of the United Tribes of Niu Tireni. Most of us did not learn about this fundamentally critical document at school, we barely learned about...
    frogblog | 30-10
  • NZ goes backwards on gender equality
    It is no coincidence that in the same week New Zealand is singled out for going backwards on child poverty under National,  we’ve also dropped in global rankings for gender equality. In one year New Zealand has dropped from 7th...
    frogblog | 30-10
  • TPPA Bulletin #58
    NATIONAL DAY OF ACTION 8 NOVEMBER 2014 Auckland, Hamilton, Raglan, Tauranga, Rotorua, Gisborne, New Plymouth, Napier, Palmerston North, Levin,Wellington, Nelson, Christchurch, Timaru, Dunedin,Invercargill. REGIONAL UPDATES Auckland (1:00 pm at Aotea Square): speakers include Robyn Malcolm (Actors Equity), Bunny McDiarmid (Greenpeace), Dayle Takitimu...
    NZ – Not for sale | 30-10
  • Seabed mining: drums in the deep
    Out on the Chatham Rise, the ridge jutting into the waters off Christchurch and extending out beyond the Chathams, Chatham Rock Phosphate has a mining permit and is now seeking EPA approval for its project to mine phosphate for fertiliser,...
    Pundit | 30-10
  • CTU Runanga calls on iwi leaders
    Maori workers are calling on iwi leaders to speak out against the employment law changes expected to go through today.“Iwi leaders have previously spoken out when workers in Aotearoa have been under attack, we believe they should do so again...
    CTU | 30-10
  • An unmanaged conflict
    Katherine Rich is a member of the government-appointed Health Promotion Agency, responsible for (as it says on its website) "inspiring all New Zealanders to lead healthier lives". Katherine Rich is also Chief Executive of the New Zealand Food and Grocery...
    No Right Turn | 30-10
  • Robert Fisk
    Isis in Syria: A general reveals the lack of communication with the US - and his country's awkward relationship with their allies-by-default...
    No Right Turn | 30-10
  • A stretch
    This morning the Herald revealed that Kim Dotcom had been convicted and fined for dangerous driving in 2009, but had not declared it on his application for residency. Immigration is now talking about deporting him. So, this is what we...
    No Right Turn | 30-10
  • Tauranga port happy to take the money – but not happy to accept responsib...
    Comments from a Port of Tauranga manager about deaths and injuries in their port during a Radio New Zealand interview are unacceptable....
    MUNZ | 30-10
  • New Ebola Toys for Xmas. Yay?
    From the "too soon?" file, here are two oddly successful exercises in niche marketing. First, the molecularly-sort-of-correct ebola plush toy. Apparently it has sold out: And, of course, the sexy ebola nurse outfit: Ebola, as everyone knows, ignores cleavage. And...
    Polity | 30-10
  • Temporary, discriminatory and an admission of Faliure
    The PM says that the legislation his government proposes to pass under urgency allowing for the confiscation of passports of NZ citizens in order to combat the threat of returning foreign fighters will be “tightly focused” on those traveling to...
    Kiwipolitico | 30-10
  • Climate change harming ocean health
    New Zealand is responsible for one of the largest areas of sea in the world – an area 14 times the size of our land area. The National Government is promising new marine protected areas legislation with a discussion document...
    frogblog | 30-10
  • Experiment-gate update
    Readers may recall the saga around an experimental mailer some Stanford / Dartmouth researchers sent into the state of Montana. In a randomised trial, it provided voters with some added information about two candidates running for a judicial election, and...
    Polity | 30-10
  • Why are our Politicians Auckland Toll Chickens?
    Yesterday both the National Government and Green Party opposed the suggestion to place a toll on Auckland’s roads, but for completely different reasons. The Government opposes it because they see it as a new tax. The Greens because they would...
    Gareth’s World | 29-10
  • The obvious question
    John Key says he knows who the hacker Rawshark is. So, will the police be raiding his home for ten hours and taking all his data, or is that something they only do to enemies of the National Party?...
    No Right Turn | 29-10
  • Guest post: Living with a criminal conviction
    What happens when one moment of bad judgement changes everything anyone ever thinks about you? Mike Jones* used a weapon to defend his girlfriend from an aggressive man at a party seven years ago. He’s still paying for that choice....
    On the Left | 29-10
  • James Shaw speaks on the four Bills formerly known as the Accounting Infras...
    The assurance industry is a critical component of our economic framework. The idea that there is a trusted independent watchdog of the public interest underpins investor confidence and ensures financial probity on behalf of our country's leading institutions. New Zealand...
    Greens | 31-10
  • ANZ needs to look after its workers after another super profit
    The ANZ bank needs to acknowledge the super profits it makes are coming at the expense of its workers, the Green Party said today.Australia and New Zealand Banking Group Limited (ANZ) 2014 full year results show a lift in performance...
    Greens | 31-10
  • James Shaw’s maiden speech
    Tena Koe, Mr Speaker. I would like to take this opportunity to speak a little of the past, the present and the future. The privilege to serve in this Parliament was given to me by all those who gave their...
    Greens | 31-10
  • Feed the kids members bill
    Education is the best route out of poverty. But hungry kids can't learn and are left trapped in the poverty cycle. Let's break that cycle lunchbox by lunchbox. We can feed the country's hungry kids, if we work together.I have...
    Greens | 31-10
  • Feed the kids members bill
    Education is the best route out of poverty. But hungry kids can't learn and are left trapped in the poverty cycle. Let's break that cycle lunchbox by lunchbox. We can feed the country's hungry kids, if we work together.I have...
    Greens | 31-10
  • National’s “Auckland housing boom” a fizzer
    Falling Auckland consent numbers show the Government’s housing policy is going backwards contrary to wild claims by Building and Housing Minister Nick Smith that we are on the cusp of a massive construction boom, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. ...
    Labour | 31-10
  • Job losses major blow to Bay community
    Job losses at Wattie’s Hastings plant will hit families and the community hard, Hawke’s Bay-based Labour MP Stuart Nash and MP for Ikaroa-Rawhiti Meka Whaitiri say. “I know a number of the Wattie’s staff and these job losses will be...
    Labour | 31-10
  • Local job losses major blow to Bay community
    Job losses at Wattie’s Hastings plant will hit families and the community hard, Hawke’s Bay-based Labour MP Stuart Nash and MP for Ikaroa-Rawhiti Meka Whaitiri say. “I know a number of the Wattie’s staff and these job losses will be...
    Labour | 31-10
  • Zero tolerance for forestry accidents a must
    The Government must adopt a zero tolerance approach to workplace accidents in the forestry sector to stop people being killed, Labour’s Forestry spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “It is time for the Government and the forestry sector to put an end...
    Labour | 30-10
  • Return to less holidays on the cards?
    John Key needs to lay his cards on the table regarding the Government’s intentions around holiday pay and annual leave entitlements, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “A day after National pushed through laws that take away the legal...
    Labour | 30-10
  • Forest Safety report first step in making our forests safe to work in
    Our forests are a very dangerous place to work. Between 2008 and 2013 there have been 32 fatalities and more than a thousand serious harm incidents in this industry. The Council of Trade Unions and First union have been doing...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Catherine Delahunty Speaks on the Employment Relations Amendment Bill
    Kia ora, Mr Assistant Speaker. He mihi nui ki te Whare Paremata. Welcome to the glorious 19th century, dressed up in the not-so-new flexibility-speak. At the final moment of this bill, let us drop the charade. The Government has a...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Ruataniwha Feds refuse to present a balanced view
    A bid to sell the Ruataniwha water project to Hawkes Bay farmers has turned in to an incredibly one sided affair, says Labours spokesperson on Water Meka Whaitiri.  “It’s being promoted as ‘Ruataniwha it’s now or never’ and it promises...
    Labour | 30-10
  • Worker’s rights dealt severe blow with Bill’s passing
    The passing of the Employment Relations Amendment Bill is another blow to workers' rights in New Zealand, the Green Party said today.This afternoon, National's Employment Relations Amendment Bill passed with the support of Act and United Future."This bill will force...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Barriers to reporting sex crimes must go
    Both the Government and police need to take action to ensure that, in future, sexual abuse victims know they will be taken seriously, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “The young women involved in the Roast Busters case, and...
    Labour | 30-10
  • Te Wakaputanga – What we did not learn at school
    This week saw the 179th anniversary of the signing of Te Wakaputanga, the Declaration of Independence of the United Tribes of Niu Tireni. Most of us did not learn about this fundamentally critical document at school, we barely learned about...
    Greens | 30-10
  • NZ goes backwards on gender equality
    It is no coincidence that in the same week New Zealand is singled out for going backwards on child poverty under National,  we’ve also dropped in global rankings for gender equality. In one year New Zealand has dropped from 7th...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Kevin Hague questions the Minister of Health on management of Katherine Ric...
    Is he satisfied that all conflicts of interest that arose by the head of Food and Grocery Council Katherine Rich being a member of the Health Promotion Agency were managed in accordance with the provisions of the Crown Entities Act...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Bennett parks numbers on social housing
    Social Housing Minister Paula Bennett admitted today that well over 1000 families have been subsidised through the accommodation supplement to stay in the Ranui campground, somewhere she has previously described as not the right place for children to be growing...
    Labour | 30-10
  • 50,000 sign petition against anti-worker law
    More than 50,000 Kiwis have signed Labour’s petition against the Government’s scrapping of tea break entitlements, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “That’s the equivalent of five people signing our petition every minute for a week. It shows the...
    Labour | 30-10
  • Address in Reply Debate – Dr Kennedy Graham on UN Security Council- 2...
    In the Speech from the Throne last week the Prime Minister identified the usual domestic goals for his Government. I counted 17. They are not my subject today. I wish instead to focus on matters beyond our shores. In the...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Climate change harming ocean health
    New Zealand is responsible for one of the largest areas of sea in the world – an area 14 times the size of our land area. The National Government is promising new marine protected areas legislation with a discussion document...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Key misled public over Jason Ede
    Information contained in a new chapter of the book Key: Portrait of a Prime Minister, that Jason Ede stopped working for the National Party on the night the book Dirty Politics was released, shows Mr Key and senior ministers hid...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Greenpeace report highlights better path for NZ agriculture
    A Greenpeace International report highlights a better way forward for New Zealand agriculture than the GE and chemical mutation technologies supported by Federated Farmers, and the National Government through its research funding packages, the Green Party said today. "This report...
    Greens | 29-10
  • BNZ post record profits while leaving savers vulnerable
    A small part of the $850 million record profit posted by the Bank of New Zealand (BNZ) today needs to be set aside to protect savers' deposits in the future, said Green Party Co-leader Dr Russel Norman today.Dr Norman was...
    Greens | 29-10
  • RBNZ U-turn shows monetary settings were wrong
    The Reserve Bank's U-turn on interest rates today shows monetary policy settings were wrong and New Zealanders have suffered unnecessarily through the loss of jobs and having to pay higher interest rates, the Green Party said today.Reserve Bank Governor Graeme...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Ports must take responsibility for shameful death toll
    Port companies must step up and take responsibility for a shameful toll of seven deaths and 133 serious accidents in the past three years, Labour MP Iain Lees-Galloway says. The frightening figures – released by the Rail, Maritime and Transport...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Please help me get my Feed the Kids Bill to Select Committee
    Last week I took over the Feed the Kids Bill that Hone Harawira had introduced to Parliament. If passed, my Bill will provide government-funded breakfast and lunch in all decile 1 and 2 schools. Hungry kids can’t learn and are...
    Greens | 29-10
  • TVNZ Outsourcing Pasifika and Maori Programmes
    I’ve always been a big fan of our state broadcaster and I’ve particularly liked their range of current events programmes. But after Friday’s announcement that TVNZ will be sacking up to 40 staff by contracting out the Pacific and Maori...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Labour urges iwi leaders to meet with National
    Labour’s Māori Caucus has called on iwi leaders and national Māori organisations to seek urgent meetings with the National Government to directly express their concerns about employment law changes which will harm Māori workers. In an open letter sent today...
    Labour | 29-10
  • ACC’s reputation needs fix, not glitz
    Restoring public trust and confidence in ACC will take a lot more than a new communications strategy or social media blitz, says Labour’s ACC spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway. “Under National, ACC has come to be perceived as insensitive, difficult to deal...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Lessons to be learned from police investigation
    The outcome of the so-called Roast Busters case should not put victims off reporting sexual crimes, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “This case has been mishandled from the start. Within days of police initially saying no charges had...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Anti-worker legislation is anti-Pacifica
    The Minister for Pacific Peoples, Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga, will go down in history as being part of a Government that harmed his own people through anti-worker legislation, says Labour’s Pacific Island Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “Pacific people are among...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Five-year tax holiday for overseas tax dodgers
    National has just gifted a five-year tax holiday for foreign companies dodging their tax payments, says Revenue spokesperson David Clark. “Todd McClay has pretended he is doing something about overseas companies dodging their tax duties by joining an international initiative...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Traffic Jam Tax must be given the red light
    Auckland Council’s proposed Traffic Jam Tax could cost some households thousands of dollars a year just to use roads they had already paid for with their taxes and must be rejected, says Labour’s transport and Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 29-10
  • National has chance to show leadership on limos
    The National Party has the opportunity to show leadership by transitioning our vehicle fleet towards renewable electricity when a new contract to supply Government limousines for VIPs goes to tender next month, the Green Party said today. "This is a...
    Greens | 29-10
  • The Māori Party can’t have it both ways over labour laws
    The Māori Party has to fess up over its voting record on the Employment Relations Amendment Bill, says Labour’s Māori Caucus.  “It’s simply not good enough to oppose the bill at the same time  as they helped speed up its progress through...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Equal pay and the aged care sector
    Today the High Court upheld the historic ruling by the Employment Court that our Equal Pay Act could be used to consider work of equal value cases; the government has been telling the UN and ILO that it could for...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Court case perfect opportunity for Government to improve gender pay gap
    If the Government wants to halt New Zealand’s slump in international rankings on the gender pay gap it should act on the court finding that women deserve equal wages, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Sue Moroney says. “The World Economic Forum’s...
    Labour | 28-10
  • All Auckland transport options should be considered
    All options for meeting Auckland's transport needs should be considered, including reprioritising the transport budget away from wasteful spending on motorways, the Green Party said today.Auckland mayor Len Brown is today releasing a transport report by the Independent Advisory Board,...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Another report highlights Govt failure on child poverty
    An international report measuring the impact of the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) on child poverty rates, showing children in New Zealand have done worse than children in other countries, is further proof the Government needs to urgently take additional steps...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Child poverty: No more wake-up calls
    A new report which shows the National Government has made no inroads whatsoever into child poverty should do more than just set alarm bells ringing, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “UNICEF’s  latest Innocenti Report Card highlights the fact...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Eugenie Sage speaks in the 2014 Address in Reply Debate
    I congratulate you, Assistant Speaker Mallard, as Assistant Speaker and look forward to your knowledge, your fairness, and your light touch in being a referee of proceedings in this House. I congratulate also the other Assistant Speaker, Lindsay Tisch; the...
    Greens | 28-10
  • James Shaw’s Maiden Speech
    Tena Koe, Mr Speaker. I would like to take this opportunity to speak a little of the past, the present and the future. The privilege to serve in this Parliament was given to me by all those who gave their...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Govt airs real views on public broadcasting
    An admission by the Government that it is happy to experiment with Pacific and Maori audiences shows just how weak its vision for public broadcasting in New Zealand is, Labour’s Broadcasting spokesperson Kris Faafoi says. “National today admitted it doesn’t...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Does Judith Collins have a get out of jail card?
    Former justice minister Judith Collins appears to have been gifted a get out of jail free card based on the Prime Minister’s answers in Parliament today, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “Judith Collins claimed in an Official Information...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Solid Energy decision delay sensible
    Today’s announcement by the Board of Solid Energy that it will delay making a final decision on re-entering the Pike River mine is a sensible move, Labour’s MP for  West Coast-Tasman Damien O’Connor says. “It has been clear for some...
    Labour | 28-10
  • New York Green Bank off to a $1B start
    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced late last week the New York Green Bank’s first NZD$1 billion tranche of green energy investments. The projects, which are difficult for the private sector to finance, are now possible by New York Green...
    Greens | 28-10
  • The Final Fifth: The Last Great Task for Progressive New Zealand.
    MOST OF NEW ZEALAND’S social problems are concentrated among those living at the margins of what is otherwise a relatively wealthy society. Recently released international data on child poverty has exposed an acutely stressed social strata encompassing roughly 20 percent...
    The Daily Blog | 31-10
  • Myth Busting Rape Boasters
    In just one week a case that galvanised a nation into discussing rape culture is now being reframed as mischievous teen hi-jinx. One year ago the Roast Busters case came to the attention of the media and the public. This...
    The Daily Blog | 31-10
  • Workers rights weakened by new laws – fightback needed
    The government’s changes to the employment laws are designed to weaken workers bargaining power – at both the individual and collective level.   30-day rule The old law required an employer with a collective agreement in place to employ new...
    The Daily Blog | 31-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Simon Buckingham – Where are Labour Candidates on disability?
    For the few people who know me (hello Mum), I am proudly New Zealand’s first Autistic Spectrum Lawyer, as well as being the very bottom Candidate on the Labour Party List. (64 out of 64). Being honoured like this is...
    The Daily Blog | 31-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Blockade the Budget
    The ‘Independent’ Police Conduct Authority’s report into the policing of student protests in 2012 is a whitewash The report released by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is a whitewash riddled with inaccuracies....
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • When National claim new anti worker laws provide ‘flexibility’ they mea...
    And so it comes to pass. The first law National ram through as part of their victory march are new anti worker laws they pretend will generate ‘flexibility’. The new law denigrate the unions ability to protect workers and provide...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • City Transport: A Taxing Matter
    This week the prospect of paying tolls on Auckland motorways became a hot topic. (See Mathew Dearnaley:Motorway tolling could hit some hard, NZ Herald, 30 Oct 2014.) As we might expect, the kneejerk response has been quite negative. But, as with...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Open Letter to Amy Adams: Please Reopen The Review Into Sexual Violence Cou...
    Ms Amy Adams, Justice and Courts Minister, Right now in this country it seems that although rape is illegal, it is not being prevented by the agents who uphold the law. It almost feels like rape is only illegal on paper,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: Does ‘No-Surprises’ Also Apply To TVNZ News?
    When you stand back and look at NZ media outlets, most of them have at least one or two people who attempt to hold the government to account: John Campbell on TV3, Guyon Espiner and others at Radio NZ, David...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Things That Make You Go Hmmmmmmm
    Every so often in politics, a public figure comes out with something so absurd and so outlandish … that it really does just make you go “Hmmmmmmmmmm”. We’re accustomed to this from certain quarters – by mid point through the...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Poverty & inequality don’t need protest marches – they need a riot:...
    The global level of inequality continues to skyrocket… Number of billionaires doubled since financial crisis The number of billionaires has doubled since the start of the financial crisis, according to a major new report from anti-poverty campaigners. According to Oxfam,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • If Key knows who Rawshark is…
    I’m sorry, what? John Key ‘given Rawshark’s name’The Prime Minister believes he knows who hacked Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater’s computer and produced the source material for Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics, according to a new edition of a recently published...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Child Poverty stats in NZ
    Child Poverty stats in NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Crimes Act + Police Investigation = WTF
    Just to frame the farce that is the Roastbuster’s investigation and conclusion – here are the parts of the Crime Act http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/whole.html#DLM329057  the Roastbusters are proven to have violated – that the police (and some suspects!) themselves acknowledge occurred: Crimes...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Publishing Journalists’ Home Addresses Is A Tactic Of The Right, Not The ...
    I think I’m starting to get rather annoyed with the conduct of some pro-MANA people over this ongoing Parliamentary Services crew complement issue. Yes, we get that there are legitimate issues to be raised with how some political reporters in...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Aucklanders caught between a tarseal-addicted government and a weak mayor
    Len Brown’s proposal for motorway tolls to reduce congestion and provide funding for better public transport is a weak response to a critical issue. The $12 billion dollar shortfall on transport funding he talks about is mainly for projected new...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • A Very Weird Story: Deconstructing Darren Aronofsky’s Noah.
    NOAH is a curious movie. Conceived as a biblical epic, it’s target audience was originally the millions of Americans who regard the Bible as God’s inerrant word. With the sin-filled works of Hollywood forbidden to these true-believers, Christian movie-makers have developed...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • You Can Get Away With Rape In New Zealand
    Jessie Hume with last years petition against rape     The police have sent a strong message today.  In fact they’ve been sending a strong message for a while; a message that our government supports. “You can literally get away...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Roast Buster case – no charges. In the immortal words of NWA…
    Roast Busters case: No prosecutions Police are to make an announcement this afternoon on Operation Clover, the investigation into the “Roast Busters” allegations. The Herald understands the victim has been told that the alleged offenders will not be prosecuted due...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Key’s flag change distraction to cost $26million!
    No. Way. Bid to change NZ flag to cost millions The cost of holding two referendums and consulting on a change of flag has been estimated to be just under $26 million. Look. We all appreciate that the sleepy hobbits...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Why NZ Herald’s Labour Party crocodile tears are so audacious
    The front page the NZ Herald would use if they thought they could get away with it No one can take the recent columns by NZ Herald seriously… John Armstrong: Shadow lingers on National John Roughan: Labour’s leadership vote matters...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • The beginning of the end of Cameron Slater?
    Slater postings on man bizarre, court told A businessman has changed his appearance and had to install extra security at his home after Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater posted his business and personal documents online, he says. Mr Slater has...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • We are a milk power republic and Fonterra our unelected senate
    Wow. Just wow… Deputy mayor says he’ll be sacked South Taranaki deputy mayor Alex Ballantyne says he expects to be sacked because he has spoken out about the impact gasses coming from dumped Fonterra dairy products have had on his...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: “…But *actually* this is about ethics in political-game jo...
    Yesterday, a piece of mine on the recent revelations about Hone Harawira employing several gentlemen either accused or convicted of sex offences was published on The Daily Blog. Predictably, given the fierce loyalty which Hone inspires in his party faithful and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Privilege cheque
    There was no race problem in my childhood. Living in central Wellington I was well-insulated from what was going on not so far away. This was the 60s and 70s, where the teachers enjoyed free love in the staff room...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • A brief word on Key’s claim that it will be raining carnage
    Isis will ‘rain carnage on the world’ – John Key Left unchecked Isis would “rain carnage on the world”, Prime Minister John Key says, but he has yet to make a decision on whether New Zealand troops will join a...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Meanwhile…
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    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • How does Andrew Little win Labour Leadership and unify the caucus?
    Audrey Young’s excellent column on how the Caucus vote  is shaping up shows how Andrew Little becomes the next leader of the Labour Party. She identifies the factions as the following… Andrew Little 6: Andrew Little, David Cunliffe, Iain Lees Galloway,...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Right of response to Curwen
    You have asked that Hone Harawira deserves to explain what happened, how would he explain when his next door neighbour is an alleged sex offender. What explanation can Hone offer he wasn’t involved, Hone had no idea this offending was...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: That Hella-Weird Feeling When You Defend Tova O’Brien
    Oh dear. Yesterday morning I blogged that Hone deserved a chance to explain what exactly had happened as applies his office’s Parliamentary Services crew complement – and, importantly, that we deserve to be able to judge him on the strength of...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Canadian Green MP warns against harsh anti-terror measures
    Canada’s Green Party has provided a welcome counterpoint to Prime Minister Harper’s call for tougher anti-terrorism laws in the wake of a soldier outside the Canadian Parliament. On October 22, while she was still locked in her parliamentary office, Green...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • When is an asset sale not an asset sale? When it robs from the poor and ste...
    National have turned state housing on its head. At no time during the 2014 election did the Key Government even hint that they were going to privatise 30% of the Housing NZ stock of state homes. Not once. Key even...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part To...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Rua) . Bill English comes clean on National’s intentions for HNZ privatisation . On 14 October, in a report on The Daily Blog, I wrote, In...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • The Questions Have Been Asked – They Deserve An Answer
    A few days ago, allegations that had been percolating for some time about Hone Harawira employing three either accused or convicted sex offenders on his Parliamentary pay-roll came to light. (one imprisoned before working for MANA; one who found himself convicted and...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • I have seen one future, and it is bleak
    . . Back in  March 2012, I wrote this story regarding a march to support striking workers at Ports of Auckland. It appears there was some prescience about some of my observations at the time… . | | 18 March...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • US air strike war Key wants us in has killed a civilian a day so far
      The US air strike war that John Key wants us to join has killed a civilian a day so far. From the Washington Post... The United States launched its first airstrikes on militants in Syria on Sept. 23, and has continued...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • The instant Jihad syndrome
    My favourite new term is ‘self-radicalised’ – it suggests the reasons for terrorism are totally divorced from the actions of the West. This need to suddenly ramp up terror laws because of lone wolf, self-radicalised Jihadists seems convenient and counter-productive....
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • We have nothing to fear from Ebola but fear itself
    I suspect most Americans perceive Ebola like this   I can’t work out if the fear being spread within the media about Ebola is deliberate or just ignorance. Yes Ebola is a terrible plague that kills a large percentage of...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – “Meritocracy? I wish.”
    I’d like to start by linking to a post I had published at another site in support of Nanaia Mahuta for the Labour Party leadership election.  She has a reasonable chance, given that she already has the endorsement of Te...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Chocolate milk shortage and creepy Santa? Let’s talk about real news
    Child poverty is still a scarily serious problem in this country and house prices are soaring through the roof to the point where it is simply impossible for the average New Zealander to buy a home. There is also little...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • It’s time to celebrate Kiwi schools and teachers
    Some would have you believe that New Zealand’s schools are in a state of collapse, that your children are not being educated well and that things are going to hell in a hand basket.  That there is no innovation, no...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Ideological Blitzkrieg – Privatization of state housing, more charter sch...
    Pundits in pundit land will tell you that this Government is boring, that Key is the great pragmatist and that it is his ability to create elegant solutions that keeps him the firm favourite in many Kiwi eyes. This ability...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • Hegemony rules but resistance is fertile
    The Prime Minister is a puppet. Not just our current Prime Minister, but given the forces of multinational globalisation, the role of any head of state, is less as independent actor, and more as a puppet of international trends and...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • An open Letter to Sir Bob Jones: demanding a ‘liveable wage’ is not “...
    How out of touch with reality is Sir Bob Jones? You know, that white dude who invested in privatised SOEs after the selling off of our assets in the eighties and made a ludicrous and disgusting amount of money and is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • My insecurity about the Security Council
    As I write this (on 24 October) it is international UN Day. Of course, you all knew that already, right? Well, the day celebrates the entry into force of the UN Charter in 1945. With the ratification of this founding...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Back in That House
    Parliament opened this week and I still find it a very odd place. Most of the people are reasonably courteous and friendly, but the rituals are archaic and the rules around issues like the swearing in oath are oppressive and...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Marae Investigates No More
    TVNZ yesterday announced the closure of their Māori and Pacific programmes department. That means they’ve chosen to stop making Fresh, Tagata Pasifika, Waka Huia and Marae Investigates to let independent producers get their hands on these lucrative contracts. This is...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • BLOGWATCH: An Un-Civil War in Labour, eh?
    Earlier today, my attention was directed to an entry that’s just recently appeared on the Slightly Left of Centre blog. It purports to contain the ‘inside word’ from a highly placed NZF source – which is funny, because I’m pretty sure...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Santanomics 101
    Santanomics could mean a number of things. It could be the study and practice of giving. Or it could mean the study and practice of rampant end-of-year commercialism. However, for me today it is the economics of erectingAuckland’s giant Santa...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • SkyCity boss misleads public over workers lost shifts
    SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison has defended the employment practices at his company in an “Opinion” piece entitled “Human Capital key to corporate success” in the NZ Herald on Thursday. A number of his claims are misleading, contain only partial truths...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Roast Busters: Turn Indignation into Action
    People raged about the Roast Buster case. The indignation was justified – it was horrible. “Where were their parents!?” Fair question. I am sure the Roast Busters’ parents and the victims’ parents all wish they had been more proactive in...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Stats NZ only have themselves to blame for postponement
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says Statistics NZ only have themselves to blame for the indefinite postponement of the release of the Food Price Index: November 2014....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • NZ Diversity Survey – benchmarking workplace diversity
    AUT University’s New Zealand Work Research Institute (NZWRI) has released a report on diversity in New Zealand workplaces....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Māori Language (Te Reo Māori) Bill
    Tutehounuku Korako, Chair of the Māori Affairs Committee, is inviting further public submissions on this bill. The closing date for submissions is Friday, 5 December 2014....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • ERA amendments a mixed bag
    The Employment Relations Amendment Act has the potential to put vulnerable workers in a more precarious position, says Equal Opportunities Commissioner, Dr Jackie Blue. However, the commissioner says the right for all to request flexible work hours is...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Sensible Sentencing calls for appeal of judicial activivism
    The Sensible Sentencing Trust is appalled that Justice Jill Mallon has today refused to apply the Life without Parole (LWOP) provisions of the Three Strikes law as enacted by Parliament....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Global Rally against ISIS – for Kobanê – for Humanity, Nov 1
    The New Zealand Kurdish Community will march in solidarity with Kurdistan as part of the “GLOBAL RALLY AGAINST ISIS – FOR KOBANÊ – FOR HUMANITY” on 1 November 2014, 2pm....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Does ‘No-Surprises’ Also Apply To TVNZ News?
    When you stand back and look at NZ media outlets, most of them have at least one or two people who attempt to hold the government to account: John Campbell on TV3, Guyon Espiner and others at Radio NZ, David...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Safer roads are better for everyone
    Recent pedestrian versus vehicle incidents highlight the real issues being addressed by delegates as the 2Walk and Cycle conference concludes....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Law change creates more flexible labour market
    The Employment Relations Amendment Act, passed yesterday, will bring new flexibility to the labour market and will reduce the ability of unions to organise and to recruit....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Bumper ANZ profits mean no excuse for insecure hours
    A big rise in profits at New Zealand's largest bank needs to be reflected in a better pay offer and more security around hours of work, the bank workers’ union said today....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Count down to lowered alcohol limit
    With just a month to go until a new lower alcohol limit for adult drivers comes into effect, Police and road safety agencies are reminding drivers of the impending change....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • WorkSafe Supports Forestry Review Findings
    WorkSafe NZ says the Independent Forestry Safety Review has clearly identified the problems facing an industry in which ten workers were killed last year. “The Review’s analysis matches our own view and leaves no doubt about the need for comprehensive,...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CTU welcomes forestry review recommendations
    The CTU is welcoming the today's release of the independent forestry safety review panel findings. "These recommendations must be implemented to ensure that everything possible is done to make forestry safer." CTU President, Helen Kelly said....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Activists will confront animal abusers
    Today animal rights activists will confront a group of wealth advisers who want to build the biggest egg factory-farm in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Turia: Women’s Refuge Conference 2014
    This is a milestone moment in my life. This will be my last official address as Co-leader of the Maori Party. On Saturday night at our Hui-a-Tau, I will be standing down from that role and enabling a new co-leader,...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rodeo Code of Welfare ‘Sick Joke’
    Animal advocacy organisation SAFE says the revised Code of Welfare for Rodeos just released is nothing but a sick joke. “Rodeo animals are goaded, tormented and forced to endure needless suffering and gross mistreatment, all for the sake of so-called...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Conservative Party applauds binding referenda on flag
    The Conservative Party are congratulating the Government on the decision to hold two binding referendums to decide the fate of New Zealand’s flag – and believes it will pave the way for binding referenda to form part of New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Walk the Talk – Opposing violence against women
    Soroptimist International of Auckland have organised a walk on 22 November from Silo Park at the Wynyard Quarter through the Viaduct and back to Silo Park, to show their opposition to violence against women. This event hopes to raise awareness...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Recommendations on the Design of Pecuniary Penalties
    The Law Commission has reviewed the use of pecuniary penalties as a regulatory tool. Pecuniary penalties are financial penalties that policymakers are increasingly opting to use in place of criminal sanctions in order to punish and deter misconduct in...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Every worker will be affected by employment law changes
    Every worker will feel the effects of the government’s new employment laws and should join a union if they want to maintain and increase their wages and conditions, says New Zealand’s largest private sector union, the EPMU....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Shameful attack on all workers
    The Government has passed the Employment Relations Amendment Act slashing the rights of all Kiwi workers. “These changes are shameful. New Zealand now has some of the worst employment protections in the OECD. It is embarrassing that a country which...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Unnecessary law changes more to do with ideology
    The government’s employment law changes are simply ideological and are at odds with its approach in the related areas of health and safety and immigration law, FIRST Union said tonight....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CTU Runanga calls on iwi leaders
    Maori workers are calling on iwi leaders to speak out against the employment law changes expected to go through today. “Iwi leaders have previously spoken out when workers in Aotearoa have been under attack, we believe they should do so...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Educating children not the best solution to alcohol harm
    Alcohol Healthwatch says we need to look beyond educating children and young people to address deeply embedded attitudes and behaviours concerning alcohol....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • New code of welfare for rodeos released
    New standards to strengthen the animal welfare requirements for rodeos have been issued today by the Minister for Primary Industries, Nathan Guy....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • IPCA report riddle with inaccuracies, say students
    A report by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is riddled with inaccuracies, say students who laid the original complaint with the IPCA....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CT v The Queen – indecency convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rameka v The Queen – murder convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Auckland Council Out of Control
    Responding to the NZ Herald article that some Auckland households will face a rates rise of up to 9.6 per cent next year, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “Len Brown’s pledge to cap rates rises at 2.5 per...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Stats NZ staff escalate action with ‘no more meetings’ rule
    Statistics NZ staff have voted to escalate their ongoing industrial action in an effort to get Stats NZ back to the bargaining table with a reasonable offer. The staff, who are members of the Public Service Association (PSA), have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Rape Crisis calls for changes to criminal justice system
    Wellington Rape Crisis has added its voice to the public outcry following the announcement that there will be no charges in the teen rape gang case. Butterworth says the decision not to lay charges will not have been a surprise...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Police action justified in Blockade the Budget demonstration
    Police actions in dealing with a demonstration in Central Auckland known as Blockade the Budget on 1 June 2012 were justified and appropriate, an Independent Police Conduct Authority report released today found....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • NZDF Joins with Australia to Commemorate WWI Centenary
    A contingent of New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel will join their Australian counterparts at Australia’s first major commemoration of the First World War centenary in Albany, Western Australia this weekend....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Reserve Bank should reduce interest rate
    “The Reserve Bank should be reducing its policy interest rate, the OCR”, says CTU Economist Bill Rosenberg in response to the Bank’s announcement today that it is not increasing it....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • 2015 Stout Fellow will write about Māori & Criminal Justice
    Kim Workman, founder and advocate for the Robson Hanan Trust, which administers the Rethinking Crime and Punishment and Justspeak initiatives, has been awarded the 2015 John David Stout Fellowship at Victoria University....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • What John Key thought about ‘dirty politics’
    On September 20, John Key swept to victory to become one of New Zealand’s most successful and popular Prime Ministers. Rocked by scandal, the 2014 election campaign was one of the most brutal – and riveting – in recent history....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Trade Deal Threatens Farmers and Food Businesses
    The secret Trans Pacific Partnership negotiations are a direct threat to food businesses and farmers, and a moratorium on the release of GE crops must be enshrined in law before the TPP is signed....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • CTU announces election of new Secretary
    The contested election for the position of CTU Secretary has been won by Sam Huggard. Sam officially takes office on Monday 1 December 2014. Sam has worked in the union movement and brings a wealth of experience and a commitment...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kim Workman awarded 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship
    The Victoria University of Wellington 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship, funded by the Stout Trust, has been awarded to justice reform advocate Kim Workman. Mr Workman (Ngati Kahungungu ki Wairarapa, Rangitaane) is well known for his work on criminal justice,...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • TPPA causing concern
    Concern over the secretive Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) negotiations is being expressed in two public meetings over the next week; one at a presentation on 5th November by former councillor Robin Gwynn to the Napier City Council, the...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kiwis rally to demand justice for ‘Roast Buster’ survivors
    Over 1,500 kiwis have rallied to demand justice after the announcement of the NZ Police decision not to lay charges in the ‘Roast Busters’ saga....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • New employment law will hurt the most vulnerable NZers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says changes to the Employment Relations Act, expected to be passed in Parliament tonight, will hurt vulnerable workers and their families more than anyone....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Consultation to close on proposed place names
    The New Zealand Geographic Board (NZGB) Ngā Pou Taunaha o Aotearoa today advised that only one month remains before public consultation closes for 18 name proposals for geographic features and places around Te Ika ā Māui (the North Island)....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Operation Clover – Statement from Police Commissioner
    I have taken a close interest in this investigation and I am confident police have conducted a thorough and professional enquiry in what has been a challenging and complex case. The Operation Clover team has ensured that victims have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Better policy would have protected children from recession
    Child Poverty Action Group says an international report released by UNICEF today shows good policy can protect and improve child well-being, even during a recession....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Outcome of Operation Clover investigation
    Police have completed a multi-agency investigation, Operation Clover, into the activities of a group calling themselves “The Roast Busters”. The 12 month enquiry focused on incidents involving allegations of sexual offending against a number of girls...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • False birth registration brings home detention
    A Whangarei woman who attempted to register the birth of a fictitious child to claim a sole parent benefit was sentenced to six months home detention in the Whangarei District Court today....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Family of Robert Ellis demand a proper investigation
    The family of a New Zealander killed in Indonesia are growing increasingly concerned at the lack of information they’ve received, and the handling of the investigation into his murder....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Minister of Health must account for aged care workers’ pay
    The New Zealand Federation of Business and Professional Women (BPW NZ) congratulates rest-home worker Kristine Bartlett on her landmark claim for equal pay from her employer and successfully pursuing this to the Court of Appeal....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
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