Comments on: Nick Smith lying with numbers.

By: Key needs to face the facts at The Standard

Key needs to face the facts at The Standard — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:15:34 +0000

[...] the original costings pushed by the incompetent Nick Smith – a man with a known history of lying with numbers. “Let’s trust Nick Smith not Treasury. Yeah [...]

By: Give the snip snap to the zip zap plastic fantastic? Yeah right! at The Standard

Give the snip snap to the zip zap plastic fantastic? Yeah right! at The Standard — Wed, 11 Nov 2009 20:16:22 +0000

[...] to the ETS. Possibly because it shows Nick Smith as being a serial liar as we have discussed here and here (and several other posts). But more likely because they are pushing the costs onto the [...]

By: Keeping up rape culture « In a strange land

Keeping up rape culture « In a strange land — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:13:48 +0000

[...] And now the Standard is doing it too. Though to be fair they are not urging people to go out and do physical harm to [...]

By: George D

George D — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:40:41 +0000

I always thought it had sexual connotations. It undoubtedly has violent ones.

By: Macro

Macro — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:36:44 +0000

The fact is – all of Smith’s figures are “worst case scenario’s” which assume “Business as Usual” as far as taking action towards reducing GGEs – the way Roger Kerr and the Business Round Table want the country to run. The simple fact is, that the Earth can no longer sustain developed and developing nations continuing to operate along the lines of “Business as Usual”. We are already committed to at least 2 degrees of warming above pre-industrial levels. Continuing to pour Carbon into the atmosphere at our current rate will only exacerbate the problem to such an extent that even the climate scientists cannot predict what the final outcome will be! It is a very dangerous game that Smith and the BRT et al are playing and it affects us all.

By: Richard

Richard — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:25:27 +0000

I’ve always read “riping a new orifice” as a near-rape metaphor.

I think you’d need to be pretty clueless to not read it that way.

But maybe I just see dicks everywhere.

By: Chris G

Chris G — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:17:21 +0000

The Nats and righties will continue to fudge the numbers and shield their eyes from the truth because they know the truth (Climate change and steps towards mitigation) is a direct challenge to their fundamental beliefs and way of life and they refuse to accept that they would need to change their way of life or that they might be wrong.

That actually goes for anyone regardless of political persuasion, but it seems the virus is more common amongst righties. dorks

By: felix

felix — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:16:34 +0000

The phrase refers to ripping holes in a person’s argument. That’s why it’s a “new” orifice.

I’ve never understood it to be in any way a rape metaphor and I think you’d really have to be bending over backwards to see it in that light.

By: Derek

Derek — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:06:03 +0000

I struggle to see how it’s a rape metaphor. Unless you assume the ripping is being done with a penis, on some part of the body that’s not currently an orifice. Which is kind of a strange assumption to make in the first place.

By: Deborah

Deborah — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:00:53 +0000

Keith Ng is passionate about numbers and particularly about accurate and relevant ones, as he has proved over the years ripping various ministers and organizations spare orifices. Keith has just ripped Nick Smith a new one Lose the language, guys. "Ripping an orifice" looks awfully close to a rape metaphor to me. I had a go at DPF over this a few weeks back - Keeping up rape culture. [lprent: Never occurred to me. It is a common expression in the military and management to describe people having large chunks of their ego being ripped from them. I could have used the metaphor of Keith tearing a few kilo's of flesh off them like a predator. However I'd have difficulty describing Keith's post in any other way. It is a pretty brutal, and devestating. ]

By: PaulD

PaulD — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 00:56:40 +0000

Lying with numbers is a habit Smith picked up in his position as ACC Minister.

By: Carbon

Carbon — Tue, 28 Jul 2009 15:14:31 +0000

#carbon Nick Smith lying with numbers. at The Standard: They wind up paying for carbon credits to countri.. http://bit.ly/8IK52