Comments on: No policy?

By: the sprout

the sprout — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 09:04:42 +0000

ah jaymam, that’s actually in the photo itself, it’s Key’s USB input – it’s normally covered with a polo neck

By: randal

randal — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:31:10 +0000

turn it up sean. you are just making it up as you go along. everybody knows that ntional does have a policy but they wont release it because a) they wont win the election if the majority is apprised of its real nature, and b)if keys is questioned he loses his rag and then they wont win the election. they are just relying on radio solid gold, radio snakeoil, the eb’s and a compliant conniving colluding press and msm to try and crosbytextor the people into voting for pie in the sky!

By: jaymam

jaymam — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:01:18 +0000

John Key must not be popular in Remuera. Whoever put up his billboard has put a screw through Key’s neck. Is that to make him look like Herman Munster?

http://i34.tinypic.com/2d13fgh.jpg

By: weka

weka — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:26:47 +0000

Perhaps you should have a look on scoop etc, see just how many policies National has released (other than the ones Trevor released for them) it is well over 20 and that was some time ago.

theodore, I don’t think that press releases count as actual policy that outlines details.

Both Labour and the Greens have their policy from the last election on their website with stated intentions to update for this election. National has nothing except press releases.

By: sean

sean — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:03:08 +0000

turn it up bill – unless you’re on a desert island, National have a lot more policy out there than Labour do. Arguing on semantics just makes you look like an apologist.

By: Greg

Greg — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:42:52 +0000

Did you see the fact checking about Agenda, Lockwood Smith claimed that the first policy released by Labour was National’s. Proposterous of course…….. only they found that to be true. That’s why this whole policy thing is a tad hypocritical.

By: schrodigerscat

schrodigerscat — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:33:32 +0000

Should be looking at the billboards and http://www.labour08.org.nz though even there some of the links don’t work

By: r0b

r0b — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:22:47 +0000

r0b, government policy is not the same and cannot be compared to the plans National has outlined for the FUTURE of the country

That’s certainly true theo, but perhaps not in the sense that you mean. Government policy is the real world, it happens, agree with it or not we all know what it is. Recently passed government policy (especially the ETS) is all about the FUTURE of our country for decades to come.

National’s “policy” as released, however, is in many cases an insincere Labour lite facade, a naked attempt to deceive their way into office. It has little to do with the reality of what National would do in government, which is take us back to the PAST.

By: bill brown

bill brown — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:20:38 +0000

Well, sean, I just went there now and got no error messages and no policy – so no policy it is then.

Interestingly, for a party who’s supposed to be “ambitious” I note their latest press releases have the following titles:

* Confirmation HMNZS Canterbury procurement flawed
* Labour ignores health system crisis
* National welcomes election date
* Heartless Dyson strikes again
* Scandal-mired Labour missing economic action

These look pretty negative to me. Not to mention wrong, if you watched Agenda today you’ll now know the first one is total fiction.

By: sean

sean — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:02:42 +0000

Sorry, but this is a terrible thread – you guys really should change your name to “The Strawman” – someone’s browser stuffed up and that means National have no policy???

By: randal

randal — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:56:38 +0000

the reason they have no policy is Keys loses his temper when he is questioned so they are just stonewalling as long as possible

By: theodore steel

theodore steel — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:52:09 +0000

Oh right, of course. I must have missed the email. How odd, usually they are marked VRWC so I know to read them.

Good, will be nice to have something to debate with the Labour candidates and supporters.

r0b, government policy is not the same and cannot be compared to the plans National has outlined for the FUTURE of the country. We want to know where they are going, not where they have been.

By: r0b

r0b — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:47:40 +0000

Here you go theo – a thread just for you: http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=2973

Also, in her speech on Friday the PM said that Labour will soon be releasing further policy for the 08 election. I’m looking forward to it too – Labour releasing leaked National for them policies was getting dull.

By: bill brown

bill brown — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:46:02 +0000

theodore,

The “Labour have not released any policies line” was last week’s. Haven’t you got your updated PowerPoint presentation for this week yet?

Please try to keep up, thanks.

By: theodore steel

theodore steel — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 04:34:06 +0000

Perhaps you should have a look on scoop etc, see just how many policies National has released (other than the ones Trevor released for them) it is well over 20… and that was some time ago.

Labour have not released any policies. None. Zero.

As was proven by the fact checking Pols students on Agenda this morning.

Stick. Eye.

There is a difference between a browser compatibility error and not having any policy.