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Note to Media – check your facts.

Written By: - Date published: 12:55 pm, January 29th, 2014 - 202 comments
Categories: labour, Media - Tags: , ,

Sometimes I despair for our media. I mean, the latest parroting of Key’s line on Best Start is the stuff of black comedy.

Apparently Key’s claiming David Cunliffe misled people about eligibility because they don’t get the payment while they also get paid parental leave. And the media are trumpeting it all over the place.

The problem is the so-called hidden information is actually right there on the first page of the factsheet Labour put up on line when policy was announced:

For families receiving Paid Parental Leave, entitlement to the Best Start Payment will commence at the end of the household’s time using Paid Parental Leave.

If that’s a hidden agenda then Labour needs to get a lot more sneaky. Or maybe journlists just need to check the facts before they put Key’s lies to print.

202 comments on “Note to Media – check your facts.”

  1. Lanthanide 1

    Reposting my comment 1.1.2 from the “On Best Start” thread:

    “As if it wasn’t very clear yesterday, on Labour’s FAQ Best Start page”

    It might have been very clear on their FAQ. But it was NOT clear from Cunliffe’s speech.

    It would not have taken much to mention it: announce paid parental leave first, then add the $60 payment for those not receiving paid parental leave.

    Simple. But he didn’t do it.

    Yes, the media are way over-reacting, but the point is, Cunliffe gave them an opening.

    I have to say, I myself was slightly surprised when I found out that the $60 only started *after* you came off the 26 weeks paid parental leave. Cunliffe really should have made this clear in his speech.

    Also in follow-up interviews he has literally said you’ll get $60 a week for the first year of your babies life if your household earns under $150k pa, without hinting at any other conditions or qualifications. He said exactly this on Campbell Live’s segment on Monday night – I was specifically noting what he said to see if he’d mention the 26 weeks paid leave or not, and he didn’t.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 1.1

      The “point” is that the media are reporting Key’s lie as something other than “Prime Minister caught lying, playing politics”.

      No amount of message tailoring is going to be enough to cut through that level of bias.

      • Lanthanide 1.1.1

        Cunliffe has presented the policy on several occasions as being $60 a week while your child is under 1 year of age and you earn less than $150k.

        That’s not actually what the policy is. Key is *not* lying when he says that that is how Cunliffe portrayed it.

        It’s unfortunate that the media are buying into and repeating his message, though.

        • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 1.1.1.1

          Labour Party inept at communications, in other news sky found to be blue.

        • weka 1.1.1.2

          “It’s unfortunate that the media are buying into and repeating his message, though.”

          Sorry Lanth, but if the media had been doing their fucking job, they would have read the Labour policy document within an hour of his speech and then the rest of the day would have covered the salient points, including things like PPL.

          Look at what happened on ts. We all read/listened to the speech, then read the actual policy and proceeded to discuss it in context. How fucking hard would that be for the media to do as well?

          • Lanthanide 1.1.1.2.1

            SPC’s comment below says this:

            “Claire Trevett ‏@CTrevettNZH
            the fact sheets handed out to reporters at the speech were not the fact sheets that contained the PPL bit.”

            • weka 1.1.1.2.1.1

              Have you seen a copy and compared it to the one online?

              How hard would it be for journalists to fact check? It looks like Labour may have made a mistake here, but if the media had done their job properly, they wouldn’t now have a story to beat Labour with. Oh wait…

              • greywarbler

                Don’t make excuses weka. It’s not the job of the media to decide Labour’s policy for them, it is Labour’s to explain it TO them, simply as to a little child. No crappy she’ll be right when you launch a policy, or the boat might go down if the holes are under the waterline.

                I have just been reading Terry Pratchett’s Jingo about playing politics in cunning ways. Wish I could have him for PM. Even with a touch of al. (the word that shall not be said) he would do as well as our strategists.

                • weka

                  Do you think Labour deliberately misled the media/public or do you think they were sloppy and ill-prepared?

                  • greywarbler

                    I said –
                    1 It’s not the job of the media to decide Labour’s policy.
                    2 It is Labour’s job to explain it to them very clearly.
                    3 It is not enough to be a bit casual about explaining to the media when you
                    launch a policy.
                    4 If the job is done imperfectly the result is likely to be unsuccessful outcomes.
                    5 Labour has to be careful and cunning about their strategies, or they will get out-maneouvred and I have seen good ideas in a book I have read, the author of which could teach them a thing or two.
                    Is that clear enough Weka.

                    • weka

                      I understood you well enough the first time. Is there a reason you don’t want to answer my question?

                    • greywarbler

                      Well I didn’t see the necessity for it but if you are playing headmistress of the thread, I will answer exactly so there is no doubt in even the most confused mind.
                      Do you think Labour deliberately misled the media/public or do you think they were sloppy and ill-prepared?

                      I think that Labour was ill-prepared as they did not specify exactly when, to whom and for how long etc that the allowance was to be paid to mothers.
                      So I think that was sloppy to use your word.

                      No I do not believe that Labour deliberately misled the media or public, but David Cunliffe did cause confusion and misunderstanding by not spelling out the exceptions and the entitlements fully, so leaving room for misinformation to be bandied about.

                    • weka

                      Thanks.

          • alwyn 1.1.1.2.2

            Perhaps it would have been a good idea for Cunliffe to have read the policy. Then he would have been able to explain it fully instead of leaving bits out.
            How can he possibly complain if he leaves out things about the scheme and then complains when Key points out that he has done so?

            • weka 1.1.1.2.2.1

              Fuck off alwyn. If you think that Cunliffe hasn’t been involved in developing the policy and hasn’t read it, then you’re an imbecile and shouldn’t be commenting here.

              • QoT

                alwyn’s previous line was that Cunliffe wouldn’t even have any input into the speech. Or that there wouldn’t be a speech. alwyn is clearly a deliberate, purposeful derailer.

                • alwyn

                  I gather that Cunliffe has admitted, in the Herald, that he was wrong in what he said in his speech, and blames it on the speechwriter. This is basically an admission that he didn’t understand the policy. It says that I rely on my speechwriter to know what the facts are, and I regurgitate them.
                  After all, we are expected to believe that DC knew the policy detail, read through the draft speech carefully, and never realised that what he was going to say was, at best, misleading and at worst was a flat out lie. “I relied on my speechwriter” is the basis of his defence.
                  I admit I am assuming that he read the speech carefully. It is one of the most important he is ever going to make and I hope he didn’t just pick it up and immediately blurt it out.

      • Tom Gould 1.1.2

        Frankly, I am really getting sick and tired of the MSM and the political media in particular behaving like they work for the Key’s 9th floor media spin unit. Any shred of actually ‘journalism’ has been abandoned in the headlong rush to get Key a third term. It is sickening to see how our democracy has been so completely corrupted.

        • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 1.1.2.1

          +1 Tom Gould

        • Richard McGrath 1.1.2.2

          Interesting that the minute Cunliffe screws up, and the media report it, they are suddenly confirmed as National Party stooges…

          • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 1.1.2.2.1

            We’ve been watching the media barely bat an eyelid on JK’s countless screw-ups – the response re Cunliffe’s speech was well over the top in comparison. Please just go back to sleep Richard McGrath

    • ghostwhowalksnz 1.2

      Then they would have claimed there was something else that ‘wasnt clear’.

      John Key would have walked into his media office and said

      ‘ Find me more than 6 different problems real of imaginary with First start and make it snappy’

      These will be drip fed out to lazy journos like Gower – and others over the next week

      • Lanthanide 1.2.1

        Yes, quite possibly, but I don’t know what else you’d pick on in this policy.

        Let’s be fair here though: missing out on 50% of the claimed $60/week payment is actually quite a big discrepancy.

      • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 1.2.2

        It’s not that something “wasn’t clear”. Cunliffe and Labour have been caught out saying things that are simply not true. That’s not a lack of clarity, that’s lying.

        • Lanthanide 1.2.2.1

          For someone to be lying, they must have an intent to deceive.

          I don’t believe there was any intent here.

          Cunliffe left out salient, important information, but he didn’t lie.

          • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 1.2.2.1.1

            Labour publications on the Internet right now show the baby bonus and parental leave being available to parents simultaneously commencing at birth. The media have reported that. Labour has allowed the media to do so without correction while knowing that it’s not true.

            • KJT 1.2.2.1.1.1

              Like you get every detail of a policy in a speech.

              There were more than a few glaring gaps in Key’s education announcement too. Don’t see any media highlighting them.

            • weka 1.2.2.1.1.2

              Got a link SHG?

              • alwyn

                There is the press release here

                https://www.labour.org.nz/beststart

                It says “Labour will introduce 26 weeks of Paid Parental Leave, an increase from the current 14 weeks, in line with Sue Moroney’s Member’s Bill”
                and
                “$60 per week for a baby’s first year of life, universal for all family’s earning under $150,000 per year”

                In the press release there are no if’s, no buts and no maybes. “First year of life” and “universal” it says.

                There might be a qualification hidden deep in one of the many documents this one contains links to but I didn’t think you were allowed to put something in bold type and then avoid it by weasel words in the small print are you?
                This isn’t his speech by the way where it is possible to claim that the omission is forgiveable. This is an announcement on the Labour Party’s own website.

                • weka

                  “There might be a qualification hidden deep in one of the many documents this one contains links to”

                  Ah, another person who hasn’t bothered to look at the policy. It’s not like it is on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying “Beware of The Leopard”. It’s on the very first page, one click from the page you just read, and that link is right at the bottom of the section on the Best Start payment.

                  I do think Labour have been remiss with this, and it’s not like this is the first time. And if you want to side with disingenuous, egotistical, ethically bankrupt journalists like Gower go ahead. Myself, I prefer to educate myself and make an effort to understand what is going on.

                  • alwyn

                    Well so it is! I wonder what is in all the other links? Why should I have to check everything rather than rely on the main document? Why can’t I rely on politicians not to prevaricate?

                    I think that, if this release from the Labour party was considered as being an ad, any material that it linked to could fairly be equated to the fine print of the ad, or as a small notice inside the store.
                    The consumer web-site has some material on the Fair Trading Act. It says

                    “Telling a story in fine print at the bottom of the ad, or by way of a small notice inside a store won’t save an ad from breaking the Fair Trading Act. As a general rule, fine print can elaborate on the main selling message but should not be used to contradict it”.

                    I see why the politicians made themselves exempt from the Fair Trading Act. A lot of them would be in very big trouble wouldn’t they?

                    • weka

                      The policy document IS the main document.

                      They made a mistake alwyn. It’s obvious that they’re not trying to hide anything.

                    • alwyn

                      Ok. Now if I can just check the rules?

                      When Key makes a slip of the tongue, or there is a typo or a word left out of a document it is because he is lying. This rule applies even when he is clearly telling the truth.

                      When Cunliffe makes a mistake and leaves something out it is only a mistake because we all know that Cunliffe never tries to hide anything. This rule is true even when he is clearly lying.

                      To hell with it. It is far to nice an evening in Wellington to bother sitting in front of a computer screen. That statement is true. It has been lovely weather today.

                    • McFlock

                      When Key makes a slip of the tongue, or there is a typo or a word left out of a document it is because he is lying. This rule applies even when he is clearly telling the truth.

                      Which cases in Blip’s list of dunnokeyo’s lying do you think that summary applies to, Alwyn?

                    • weka

                      It says alot alwyn that you can’t tell the difference between a mistake and lying.

                      When Key makes a slip of the tongue, or there is a typo or a word left out of a document it is because he is lying. This rule applies even when he is clearly telling the truth.

                      When Cunliffe makes a mistake and leaves something out it is only a mistake because we all know that Cunliffe never tries to hide anything. This rule is true even when he is clearly lying.

                      That’s about how you see things. I don’t see it that way, which begs the question of why you would post that in reply to me.

                    • alwyn

                      @McFlock. I was going to put, as an example, the comment about working for families.
                      I suppose if I do so you will tell me it doesn’t form part of the class I was talking about as there is no typo, nor slip of the tongue.
                      It isn’t a lie though, which Blip claims. Now you tell me why you think it is a lie?

                    • McFlock

                      Blip’s list:

                      we are not going to cut working for families

                      .
                      Linked to this page here.

                      Contrast with this news report re:2011 budget, wich was found in a5 second google search. Headline “Thousands affected by Working For Families cuts”.

                      Do you see why some folk might think that dunnokeyo’s statement did not match reality? Hence why it might be a “lie”, especially as his promise was in a carefully crafted speech and media release?

                    • alwyn

                      McFlock at 9.42am
                      The statement by Key was in July 2008, before the 2008 election. It was, like the decision not to sell shares in the SOEs a statement of what the National Government would do in its 2008-2011 term if they were elected. They did NOT make changes to WFF before the 2011 election.
                      Before the 2011 election they announced their policy for the next term and, in some cases, made changes to laws that would take place only after that election, if they were re-elected. If they hadn’t been reelected there was plenty of time for a new Government to reverse them.
                      Key’s promises prior to the 2008 were always predicated on being for that term. The only promise he has made that is to apply to his whole time as PM was the one on the age for National Super. Thus Key did not lie about WFF.
                      If you think that this is a lie would you accept that Cunliffe is a liar, because at the 2011 election he campaigned on removing GST from food? Now he says he isn’t going to do so. He must, by your reasoning, have been lying in 2011, mustn’t he?

                    • McFlock

                      This is the fruit you choose to pick out of blips entire tree? A semantic argument that making changes in the 2011 budget does not count as making changes before the 2011 election (as if that was even a qualifier in the original statement, which was part of their labourlite campaign of lies) because the changes wouldn’t impact until after the 2011 election.

                      And even then you can’t tell the difference between not being in a position to backtrack on your promises (because, news flash, they lost the election) and making the promise in order to get into government only to backtrack on it while in that term of government?

                      And no, “the next government could reverse it if they wanted” does not count as “telling the truth”.

                      It’s an interesting argument, I grant you, but you’re still just rolling a turd in glitter and trying to sell me a diamond. It sure doesn’t come close to honesty.

                    • alwyn

                      @McFlock.
                      When I read the comment I was trying to reply to I thought you had put the singular “case”, not the plural “cases” you had actually typed. I was therefore only giving an example.
                      I assure you I have much better things to do than go right through that list showing the flaws in all of them.
                      The truth about the one I did list is that no changes were made that affected what anyone got during the first term, as they promised, and they gave notice of changes that were going to take effect in their second term. If people didn’t really like them they didn’t have to vote for him did they?

                    • McFlock

                      Ah, so there might be actual cases in blips list where key did not in fact lie, mislead, or utter an untruth, but you’re too cool to bovver.

                      I’d like it if you showed an actual flaw in any of them, as in something that you don’t need to squint at sideways in order to argue that our prime minister made a “slip of the tongue” rather than it being clearly obvious to all that he’s an habitual lying prick.

                    • McFlock

                      The truth about the one I did list is that no changes were made that affected what anyone got during the first term, as they promised, and they gave notice of changes that were going to take effect in their second term.

                      See the bit you have to add in order to pretend that LabourLite wasn’t an outright lie?

                      If people didn’t really like them they didn’t have to vote for him did they?

                      Hey – partners go back to their abusive spouses, too. That doesn’t mean that they weren’t lied to.

    • geoff 1.3

      Cunliffe really should have made this clear in his speech.

      Yeah the problem is Cunliffe not pointing out the detail in a broad speech, not National making shit up about Labour :roll:

      Hey I get to use that eye rolley thing twice on you today, Lanth.

      Or are deliberately trying to derail the discussion?

      • Lanthanide 1.3.1

        Maybe you didn’t read everything in my comment, so I’ll post it here again for you.

        It would not have taken much to mention it: announce paid parental leave first, then add the $60 payment for those not receiving paid parental leave.

        Simple. But he didn’t do it.

        Knocking out 50% of the claimed $60/week payment is a *significant* discrepancy.

        I’m not expecting Cunliffe to detail absolutely everything in his speech, but this is a point that should have been mentioned.

        • geoff 1.3.1.1

          So says….the pedant.

          Derailing the discussion with pedantry is still derailing the discussion.

          • Lanthanide 1.3.1.1.1

            It’s not pedantry.

            Cunliffe factually did not mention, on several occasions including the initial unveiling speech, that the $60 payment is not made to those who are on parental leave. The speech was plenty long enough already that claiming he couldn’t fit these little but important details in was impossible is rather disingenuous.

            Whether this is an important point or not does not change the *fact* that on numerous occasions, Cunliffe did not make this clear.

            Now, I think it is an important point, and he should have said it; but on the flipside the media shouldn’t be buying into Key’s spin and repeating it ad-nauseam. This should be little more than a footnote in the discussion of the policy.

            However this is another learning point for Labour. They need to get better at communications. First thing to do is to say “how will National attack this?” and then make adjustments until there are no obvious attack points left and they have rebuttals for anything that needs rebutting.

            • geoff 1.3.1.1.1.1

              So you think Patrick Gower’s reporting was good?

              You thought John Key’s lines on Tv3 this morning were fair enough?

              • Lanthanide

                Once again, I shall repeat a part of my comment because it appears you didn’t actually read it.

                Now, I think it is an important point, and he should have said it; but on the flipside the media shouldn’t be buying into Key’s spin and repeating it ad-nauseam. This should be little more than a footnote in the discussion of the policy.

                Instead of imaging what my position might be, try actually reading the comment to see if my position is already stated.

  2. shorts 2

    quite a number of people taking Gower to task over this on twitter – which is good but unfortunately few will see it

  3. Andrew 3

    There would seem to be some confusion regarding the info-graphic that Jacinda Ardern has put out, where it clearly shows that the “best start” payment starts from birth.

    best start info-graphic

    It clearly states that the $60 payment is for the first year of the child’s life. Nowhere does it mention after 26 weeks paid parental leave.

    • BM 3.1

      Yes, that’s a bit misleading, jeez what a balls up

      • Tracey 3.1.1

        And key should know misleading… he wrote the book aye bm

        Which schools are getting the super principals and when bm?

    • DJ 3.2

      In other words no one has a fucking clue what is going on. Oh dear!

    • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 3.3

      That Labour infographic clearly and unambiguously shows paid parental leave and the “Best Start” allowance occurring simultaneously.

      Muppets.

  4. SPC 4

    This is an opportunity to state the reasons why the $60 payment is universal in the first year

    1. the parental leave payment is universal
    2. most families do not get parental leave

    • Lanthanide 4.1

      The $60 payment isn’t universal.

      • SPC 4.1.1

        Lanthanide, the parental leave payment is universal because all those working at the time get it (most mothers are not working at the time they get pregnant).

        Universal means no means test. But note universal tax credits do not go to those who get parental leave now. This $60 payment for the first year is now in that category.

      • geoff 4.1.2

        more pedantry from Lanth.

        • Lanthanide 4.1.2.1

          Well hey, if you want to live in a world where the details don’t matter and people can just say whatever and get away with it, then I guess you enjoy being under a National government that promises 170,000 new jobs are coming just around the corner.

  5. fisiani 5

    Another own goal by Labour. Jeez I thought Shearer was useless. The Cunliffe said it would be for the first year of life. No ifs and no buts other than not for the uber-rich. What a PR disaster. Slippery Cunliffe. How many more lies will he tell?

  6. SPC 6

    Zetitic, the issue has been discussed on twitter.

    I got his from a post over on kiwiblog.

    Pete George (20,736 comments) says:
    January 29th, 2014 at 1:32 pm
    There’s been a lot of debate about this on Twitter, with claims and counterclaims. It seems to have been clarified.

    @patrickgowernz

    Labour dishonest on baby bonus. Blog:http://www.3news.co.nz/Opinion-Labour-dishonest-on-baby-bonus/tabid/1382/articleID/330156/Default.aspx#.UuguycjrLVw.twitter … Labour deliberately misled voters by omission of key details

    Keith Ng ‏@keith_ng
    Gower should’ve read the fact sheet. Cunliffe should’ve been clearer about all the exceptions. These facts are not contradictory.

    Tim Watkin ‏@Tim_Watkin
    But Gower did read the fact sheet and is now reporting a contradiction found therein.

    Keith Ng ‏@keith_ng
    Amendment: Gower should’ve read the fact sheet prior to filing the story. He had five goddamn hours.

    Claire Trevett ‏@CTrevettNZH
    the fact sheets handed out to reporters at the speech were not the fact sheets that contained the PPL bit.

    Keith Ng ‏@keith_ng
    Oh. Fuck. Withdrawn with apologies to @patrickgowernz then.

    It seems that fact sheets handed out at the speech had less facts than the fact sheet that could be found online.

    • geoff 6.1

      Yeah I’m sure the mistake by Labour was deliberate.
      Oh no, it wasn’t. It was a mistake.
      What was deliberate? Key trying to smear the policy by telling lies, again!

      Key the lying liar just cant stop telling lies.

      I love the reaction this policy is getting from the wingnuts. When all those swing-voting, young mums realise that Labour is going to help them out, National….are…fucked. Hee hee its going to be fantastic.

      • TightyRighty 6.1.1

        100% deliberate. All the authorised info graphics show that that’s it was intended to be understood by the average punter to combine PPL and BS (like that?) from when the baby is born.

  7. fisiani 7

    http://www.3news.co.nz/Opinion-Labour-dishonest-on-baby-bonus/tabid/1382/articleID/330156/Default.aspx

    Read it and weep. Total dishonesty from The Cunliffe. Found out to be lying.
    How many heard or read his speech and guessed that the bribe was only half what he promised.

    • SPC 7.1

      You and some journalists seem unaware that those receiving parental leave now do not get universal tax credits at the same time – this would apply to the $60 payment as well.

    • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 7.2

      Jesus, what a cockup. Just when you think Labour couldn’t possibly get any more incompetent at articulating a message, they come along and prove you wrong.

    • McFlock 7.3

      damn, gower’s throwing a major tanty.

      What the fuck is he, three?

    • mickysavage 7.4

      I am not sure about the utility of responding to Fisi and thinking that he will change his mind but the speech was a generalised statement of the policy, the information released at the time had more detail. Instead of reading out 40 pages of technical material David gave a generalised description. This is not a lie.

      • Lanthanide 7.4.1

        But it wouldn’t have taken him more than a sentence or two to indicate a very important point, that you only get the $60/week payment after the parental leave entitlement has run out.

        He SHOULD have said it.

        • mickysavage 7.4.1.1

          Gee Lanth

          Key announces a $360 mil spend with absolutely no details apart from the number of teachers getting extra pay and their designation and everyone celebrates. Labour comes out with some really detailed policy and some sloppiness in the language for the associated speech is used to attack the policy.

          It is a proposal at this stage. It is not finalised. Of course there needs to be work done in fleshing it out.

          • geoff 7.4.1.1.1

            +1 Mickey

          • emergency mike 7.4.1.1.2

            That’s the issue for me to ms, Key announces a big spend on vaguely defined ‘lead’ ‘expert’ and ‘change’ teachers and the media calls it a winner without pointing out the lack of any meaningful details or evidence that this will do anything to help education.

            Meanwhile Labour announces a detailed solid proposal and Gower has a tantrum because the fine print wasn’t communicated perfectly.

            I don’t see many new parents getting too outraged about missing out on $60 a week if they are getting paid parental leave. Buy hey Paddy, don’t let that stop you howling to the moon.

            • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 7.4.1.1.2.1

              “I don’t see many new parents getting too outraged about missing out on $60 a week if they are getting paid parental leave.”

              +100

          • Lanthanide 7.4.1.1.3

            “It is a proposal at this stage. It is not finalised. Of course there needs to be work done in fleshing it out.”

            But it HAS been fleshed out. Cunliffe just neglected to convey the details that have already been decided.

            • Colonial Viper 7.4.1.1.3.1

              You really are such a “could have, should have.” The real story is of course the blatantly unequal treatment given to Key’s teacher spend up and then to Cunliffe, as MS points out.

              And I would point out that you are doing exactly the same.

              • Lanthanide

                Actually there are a quite a few people in this thread defending Cunliffe and Labour.

                They should not be defending them, because they did screw up, and they should know better.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Nah screw you mate.

                  The point I made about your completely unequal and hypocritical treatment of Cunliffe’s and Key’s recent announcement stands.

                  Did Cunliffe fail to make certain details clear in his speech? Yes. That’s clear. But it was a leadership speech and not a policy bureaucrats’ monologue. The detail was there and it was available on the day.

                  It’s not a fucking hanging offence, and why you are judging how serious a “screw up” it is by Patrick Gower’s and the rest of the MSM’s bullshit hyperbole is beyond me.

                  • Lanthanide

                    It’s not a fucking hanging offence, and why you are judging how serious a “screw up” it is by Patrick Gower’s and the rest of the MSM’s bullshit hyperbole is beyond me.

                    Good, because I never said it was a hanging offense, nor am I judging it by what Gower or the MSM are saying. Here’s a snip from one of my comments earlier in this thread:

                    Now, I think it is an important point, and he should have said it; but on the flipside the media shouldn’t be buying into Key’s spin and repeating it ad-nauseam. This should be little more than a footnote in the discussion of the policy.

                    Once again, it is not like this was a difficult thing to slip into his long speech. Nor was it a minor policy point that was correct to leave out – we’re literally talking about slashing the much-touted payment by 50%. That’s a big deal.

                    Also not sure how I’m being hypocritical about Key’s speech. Did Key gloss over very important details that were pointed out by accompanying written policy notes? Or did they simply not have any written policy notes at all, therefore making your comparison completely specious?

                    Many many times we have right-wing nutjobs coming on here trying to say how what Key/National did is the same as what Shearer/Labour/whoever did and how we’re being hypocritical, and we point out that actually the situations are different in significant respects to make their claims baseless. It seems you’re trying to do the same here, conflating Key’s SoN speech to Cunliffe’s when really the situations are different.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Dude, I’d be a great speech writer too if I could go back in time to the day before a speech is given armed with 20/20 vision of the media reaction.

                    • Markymark

                      + 1 Lanthide.

                    • Lanthanide

                      And yet in subsequent interviews he also failed to mention the PPL aspect of the policy. The printed material produced by Jacinda Ardern also implies that you get $60/week and that PPL isn’t taken into account. They gave out printed policy materials to journalists that failed to include all the relevant information.

                      This is not just about his speech. This is about their whole communications strategy around this policy that they bungled.

                      It would have been *very simple* for Cunliffe to have addressed this in the speech. Introduce the 26 weeks PPL *first*, and then after mentioning the $60/week payment, say that it kicks in after any PPL has finished. Simple. Easy. Not confusing. On-message. You don’t need a time-machine or 20/20 hindsight to do this.

                      At my work I am highly regarded as being able to write clear, comprehensive (although not always concise) descriptions of software issues and proposed solutions, as well as document existing software designs. Part of the approach I take is to think to myself “what are the important points that need to be presented, and what order do they need to go in”. So it is not rocket surgery for me to see how this speech should have been written with regards to this policy, and how I would have written it – and this is *not* hindsight speaking. The 50% reduction in payments is a big oversight to leave out of the speech.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Good suggestions and a clear structure. It is a worry that an opportunity to deliver things better was missed.

                      Nevertheless Cunliffe’s machine is new, the MSM think that THEY are the news, and there’s going to be bugs and a steep learning curve. Move on.

                    • weka

                      “Good, because I never said it was a hanging offense, nor am I judging it by what Gower or the MSM are saying. Here’s a snip from one of my comments earlier in this thread:

                      Now, I think it is an important point, and he should have said it; but on the flipside the media shouldn’t be buying into Key’s spin and repeating it ad-nauseam. This should be little more than a footnote in the discussion of the policy.”

                      Thing is Lanth, your emphasis says different than your words. You focus alot of attention on the fuck up and then you claim that the media should treat it as a footnote, when you are making it the main menu yourself. It’s not the first time you have done this with an issue, but I’m not sure if you are aware of it. It makes sense that people would react to the presentation.

                      fwiw, I’m defending Labour against the idea they intentionally misled the media and that Cunfliffe lied. Which is annoying because I’d much rather be criticising them for the blunder. Nevertheless, it’s a good policy and deserves more attention paid to that than the mistake.

                    • Lanthanide

                      I belabour issues to get my specific point across, weka, which in turn distorts how people perceive what it is that I’m saying because they think I’m getting overly worked up over the issue (or something). Actually I’m just trying to be precise – see what I said above about writing clear and comprehensive, although not always concise, descriptions of issues?

                      Not much I feel I can really do it about it. I say enough to ensure I get my point across. If I said less I wouldn’t feel like I’d made my point adequately.

                      fwiw, I’m defending Labour against the idea they intentionally misled the media and that Cunfliffe lied. Which is annoying because I’d much rather be criticising them for the blunder. Nevertheless, it’s a good policy and deserves more attention paid to that than the mistake.

                      Completely agree. I have also defended Labour about it not being a deliberate attempt to mislead anyone. I have also criticised them for the blunder, obviously.

                      One thing I have noticed is that Joyce’s immediate “where’s the money coming from” line is no longer getting any air time, which is good.

                    • felix

                      “I belabour issues to get my specific point across”

                      :D

        • Tracey 7.4.2.1

          Which schools are getting the super principals and when?

          • fender 7.4.2.1.1

            To qualify one must send pic of completed voting form to Nat HQ on voting day..

            • Anne 7.4.2.1.1.1

              One must also send a dentist’s certificate confirming teeth are laser white and even. This is a prerequisite for anyone associated with the National Party (not just MPs) and includes super-teacher principals.

            • felix 7.4.2.1.1.2

              Bill nailed it. Any teacher/principal who uncritically endorsed National Standards and was happy to “teach the test” will be given the authority to whip the others into submission.

  8. Sabine Ford 8

    Note to Labour,

    the Media is not your friend. The media will be your friend maybe, once you have won and/or paid them off. Repeat, Rinse, Repeat and finally accept it.

    Note to Cunliffe,

    you can not abolish child hood poverty while ignoring the poor Parents or Parents to be. Raise the minimum wage for a starter. For all that are working the minimum wage….not just those with children. And when presenting policies that might be a bit harder to understand than ‘raise the minimum wage’ speak clearly, pronounce properly and leave nothing out.

    I am quite frankly sick and tired to see the Taxes subsidize Corporations that only pay minimum wage. Because this is what we are doing.

    Oh, and another way to combat childhood poverty….Jobs, for all those unemployed and underemployed. Full Time Jobs that pay at least 15$ minimum wage.

    Now that is something even the laziest Journo would understand.

    • Colonial Viper 8.1

      An immediate increase to $15/hr minimum wage has already been well signalled by Cunliffe and the detail didn’t need to be in the speech again.

  9. captain hook 9

    Whata lot of tripe from fissiwho. Puting words in peoples mouth is the same as lying and you should be ashamed of yourself.
    David Cunliffe is trying to do something for the most underprivileged people in new zealand and all you can do is poormouth. Shame on you.
    and as fo rhte media they are too cute for words.
    last night on TV1 when they were doing a cringing apology for Whale Boil they had a piccy of len brown on whale boils monitor.
    The msm seem to be getting as sleazy as that monster.

  10. Mickey 10

    Yep another cluster f#@k from Cunliffe, and now Clarks ban facebook gaffe, it gets better and better.
    How can anyone trust these clowns to run the country.

    • greywarbler 10.1

      Mickey, short for mickey mouse? Clowns have to be funny to stay in their jobs. Politicians aren’t asked to be funny and neither are commenters who come here. Not even calling yourself mickey is amusing. If you want to stay, and be funny, earn your stripes as you have to be funnier than that. I suggest you go back to the circus and practise your gymnastics and Cirque du Soleil or whoever may snap you up.

    • Colonial Viper 10.2

      Yet you trust John Key, a guy who cant remember what he had for breakfast. Or deliberately lies about not remembering.

      • the pigman 10.2.1

        Give Keys a break, he just hasn’t read what’s in the report about him lying yet. Nor spoken to himself about his alleged lying yet. And eckshully he probably doesn’t need to have that conversation because he is ruhlexed and has full confidence in himself.

  11. Rodel 11

    Lot of women don’t get paid parental leave. They will benefit immediately.
    Women who do get parental leave, will benefit when it’s needed.
    Simple as that. Wonder what part of that don’t the desperate Tories understand?
    Desperate arguments by our right wingers sound like the spin of Hannity and O’reilly on F** news.

  12. SPC 12

    The issue

    Cunliffe said that the 60,000 families that had a child each year would benefit from the near universal (to $150,000 pa – it should have been universal) roll out in year one.

    TV3 journo’s were first wondering if the $150,000 income was that including both incomes before the child birth or after, looking for the detail.

    Then looking into the matter of whether the $25,000 pa rate parental leave payment as factored in after the child’s birth (thus $150,000 to $125,000 other partner and investment income).

    But before they got answers to these questions Cunliffe left the “press conference”.

    The difference between the two fact sheets, the one on-line had more detail than the one given to journalists must have wound them up a little more.

    Journo’s were trying to do their jobs and this was an inconvenience – but the reaction to infer that they had been deliberately mislead was a little spiteful and unprofessional. It is a claim made without any evidence.

    • mickysavage 12.1

      The real issue is that this is a first go at the formulation of policy in a complicated area.

      On one hand Labour is being criticised for it being too generous so that a family previously earning more than $150k per year may qualify and on the other hand they are being criticised for being not generous enough. Swings and roundabouts SPK …

  13. George D 13

    Cunliffe and his team screwed this up.

    Among the most important rules of politics is that you must be able to explain the policy to a six-year old (or have very good reasons why this is not the case). When it is a headline policy to start your election year, this should be doubly so.

    tl;dr – what Lanthanide said.

    • weka 13.1

      Yes, they screwed up. Do you think they lied and deliberately misled the media and the public?

      • Michael S 13.1.1

        Yes. I believe he deliberately tried to mislead. If he didn’t it means he did not understand the policy.
        He said today he wasn’t responsible for that section of the speech. But he must have read it before delivery, so why say it as written if he knew it was wrong.

        • mickysavage 13.1.1.1

          Welcome Michael. I do not believe you have commented before.

          What a stupid thing to say.

          Do you have any proof?

          And why?

          The policy is broadly in line with what was proposed.

  14. captain hook 14

    What a lot of crap from geroge d. A 6 year old cant read properly because national standards doesn’t work and they cant understand policy anyway.
    Stop repeating this nonsense.
    David Cunliffes plank is clear, plain and simple to understand.
    anyway back to the chase the media in New Zealand are chosen for their hair and teeth and not for their ability.
    and like most narcissists they are tinpot tories to boot.

  15. BLiP 15

    In a play straight out of the Crosby/Textor Manual of Dark Arts, John Key accuses his opponent of the very thing he himself is practising . . .

    Prime Minister John Key has launched a scathing attack on Labour leader David Cunliffe’s credibility, calling him “tricky” and questioning whether he’s been telling the public the truth . . .

    . . . meanwhile:

    John Key’s Big List Of Lies

    I promise to always be honest

    we are not going to sack public servants, the attrition rate will reduce costs

    there’s no way one in five New Zealanders will lose their jobs

    we are not going to cut working for families

    I firmly believe in climate change and always have

    We seek a 50% reduction in New Zealand’s carbon-equivalent net emissions, as compared to 1990 levels, by 2050. 50 by 50. We will write the target into law.

    National Ltd™ will provide a consistent incentive for both biofuel and biodiesel by exempting them from excise tax or road user charges

    I didn’t know about The Bretheren election tactics

    If they came to us now with that proposal [re trans-Tasman Therapeutic Goods regime], we will sign it

    I can’t remember my position on the 1981 Springbok Tour

    Tranzrail shares

    I did not mislead the House (1)

    Lord Ashcroft

    National Ltd™ would not have sent troops into Iraq

    Standard & Poors credit downgrade

    the double-down grade doesn’t really matter and its only about private sector debt

    I did not mislead the House (2)

    I didn’t say I want wages to drop

    I can’t remember why I voted against increasing the minimum wage

    lifting the minimum wage to $15 an hour will increase unemployment

    the real rate of inflation is 3.3 percent.

    the tourism sector has not lost 7,000 jobs

    no I have never heard of Whitechapel

    I won’t raise GST

    people who are on the average wage and have a child are $48 a week better off after the rise in GST

    the purchase of farmland, by overseas buyers will be limited to ten farms per purchase

    the Pike River Mine was consented to under a Labour Government

    no promises were made to get the remains of the miners out of the Pike River mine

    I did not provide a view on the safety of the Pike River coalmine

    I did not mislead the House (3)

    capping, not cutting the public service

    raising the minimum wage to $15 per hour will cost 6000 jobs

    north of $50 a week

    privatisation won’t significantly help the economy

    wave goodbye to higher taxes, not your loved ones

    I never offered Brash a diplomatic job in London

    Tariana Turia is “totally fine” with the Tuhoe Treaty Claim deal

    Kiwisaver

    National Ltd™ is not going to radically reorganise the structure of the public sector

    tax cuts won’t require additional borrowing

    New Zealand does not have a debt problem

    New Zealand troops in Afghanistan will only be involved in training, not fighting

    the wage gap between New Zealand and Australia has closed under my National Ltd™ government

    It took 9 years for Labour to make a complete and utter mess of the economy

    National Ltd™ has changed the Overseas Investment Act to include 19 different criteria

    the price of goods and services has risen by 6 percent since the last election, while the after-tax average wage has actually gone up by 16 percent

    no, although its a week ago and here I am being interviewed on television about them, I havn’t seen Gerry Brownlee’s comments regarding demolitions in Christchurch and which caused such outrage, but I can talk all about them

    our SAS soldiers were not involved in the Kabul Hotel gunfight

    the use of the Vela brother’s helicopter was required so I could attend meetings relating to national/international security concerns

    the DPS makes the decision about accompanying the Prime Minister or not, I had no choice but to take them on holiday to Hawaii

    I did not mislead the House (4)

    oh, maybe our SAS soldiers were in the Kabul hotel gun fight but they weren’t wounded by friendly fire

    New Zealand has lost $12 billion from GDP due to the Christchurch earthquake . . . oh, it might actually be around $15 billion from GDP due to the Christchurch earthquake . . . Blinglish said what?

    10,000 houses will have to be demolished in Christchurch due to the earthquake

    14,000 new apprentices will start training over the next five years, over and above the number previously forecast

    our amendments to the ETS ensure we will continue to do our fair share internationally

    we are committed to honouring our Kyoto Protocol obligations

    any changes to the ETS will be fiscally neutral

    New Zealand has grown for eight of the last nine quarters”

    National Ltd™ will tender out the government banking contract

    we will be back in surplus by 2014-15

    Nicky Hager’s book “Other People’s Wars” is a work of fiction

    unemployment is starting to fall

    we have created 60,000 jobs

    we have created 45,000 jobs

    the 2011 Budget will create in the order of 170,000 jobs

    I don’t know if I own a vineyard

    no, I did not mislead the House (5)

    the Isreali spy killed in the Christchurch quake had “only one” passport

    the Police will not need to make savings by losing jobs

    I voted to keep the drinking age at 20

    New Zealand is 100% Pure

    I’ve been prime minister for four years, and it’s really 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year

    baseball in New Zealand is attracting more government support

    the decision to buy brand new BMWs was made by the Department of Internal Affairs without reference either to their minister or to me

    I didn’t have a clue that Ministerial Services, which I am in charge of, was going to buy brand new BMWs

    even though four of my ministers knew all about it, I didn’t have a clue that brand new BMWs were being bought.

    even though my Chief of Staff met with officials to discuss purchase of the the brand new BMWs, I didn’t have a clue

    even though I personally signed papers discussing the matter, I still didn’t have a clue

    Labour forced us into buying the brand new BMWs, its their fault

    ummm, look, sorry about that BMW thing , it was because I was so upset

    I did not describe David Beckam as thick as batshit

    I did not mislead the House (6)

    the public demanded that we change the labour laws for The Hobbit

    “The Hobbit” created 3000 new jobs

    we have delivered 800 extra doctors in the public service

    I did not mislead the House (7)

    I wasn’t working at Elders when the sham foreign exchange deals took place

    I was starting School Certificate exams in 1978

    I don’t know who arrived on the CIA jet to visit the spies I am responsible for

    reducing barriers to property developers will increase the availability of affordable housing

    Labour left the economy in poor shape

    forecasts show unemployment will fall

    we have closed the wage gap with Australia by $27

    Ngati Porou and Whanau Apanui are not opposed to mining

    I have not had any meetings with Media Works

    our [NZ's] terms of trade remain high

    the TPPA is an example of democracy

    the TPPA will still have to be ratified by Parliament

    National Ltd™ will use the proceeds of state asset sales to invest in other public assets, like schools and hospitals

    New Zealand troops will be out of Afghanistan by April 2013

    overseas investment in New Zealand adds to what New Zealanders can invest on their own

    overseas investment in New Zealand creates jobs, boosts incomes, and helps the economy grow

    National Ltd™ will build 2000 houses over the next two years

    there are only 4 New Zealand SAS soldiers in Bamiyan and all working in the area of logistics and planning only

    selling state assets will give cash equity to those companies

    the Sky City deal will provide 1000 construction jobs and 800 casino jobs

    all five bidders for the convention centre were treated equally

    my office has had no correspondence, no discussions, no involvement with the Sky City deal

    I did not mislead the House (8)

    I can’t remember what was discussed at my meeting with the SkyCity Chief Executive on 14 May 2009

    I have no record of the 12 November 2009 email from Treasury advising that the SkyCity deal was dodgy and needed to be referred to the Auditor General

    there was nothing improper about the Sky City deal

    SkyCity will only get “a few more” pokie machines at the margins

    any changes to gambling regulations will be subject to a full public submission process

    Sky City has approached TVNZ about the purchase/use of government-owned land

    I did not mislead the House (9)

    this government has been very transparent about all its dealings with SkyCity

    I did not mislead the House (10)

    the Auditor General has fully vindicated National over the Sky City deal

    I did not mislead the House (11)

    the Deputy Auditor General supports the view that there was nothing inappropriate about the Sky City deal

    I did not mislead the House (12)

    I did not breach the confidentiality of the Auditor General’s Report into the Sky City deal

    the Labour Government did exactly the same sort of deal back in 2001

    Labour has promised to not revoke the Sky City legislation

    there’s a 50/50 chance the Hobbit is going off shore unless we do something

    David Shearer has signed up for the purchase of shares in Mighty River

    Solid Energy asked the government for a $1 billion capital investment

    fracking has been going safely on in Taranaki for the past 30 years without any issues

    no frontline positions will be lost at DOC

    Iain Rennie came to me and recommended Fletcher for the GCSB job

    I told Cabinet that I knew Ian Fletcher

    I forgot that after I scrapped the shortlist for GCSB job I phoned a life-long friend to tell him to apply for the position

    I told Iain Rennie I would contact Fletcher

    I haven’t seen Ian Fletcher in a long time.

    I did not mislead the House (13)

    I have no reason to doubt at this stage that Peter Dunne did not leak the GCSB report

    I called directory service to get Ian Fletcher’s number

    the new legislation narrows the scope of the GCSB

    the GCSB has been prevented from carrying out its functions because of the law governing its functions

    because the opposition is opposed the GCSB law ammendments, parliamentary urgency is required

    the increasing number of cyber intrusions which I can’t detail or discuss prove that the GCSB laws need to be extended to protect prive enterprise

    it was always the intent of the GCSB Act to be able to spy on New Zealanders on behalf of the SIS and police

    National Ltd™ is not explanding the activities of the GCSB with this new law

    cyber terrorists have attempted to gain access to information about weapons of mass destruction held on New Zealand computers

    the law which says the GCSB cannot spy on New Zealanders is not clear

    it totally incorrect that the Government effectively through GCSB will be able to wholesale spy on New Zealanders

    we self identified that there was a problem with the GCSB spying on Kim Dotcom

    the illegal spying on Kim Dotcom was an isolated incident

    The advice I have had in 4 years as a Minister is that in no way ever has there been an indication of unlawful spying

    the Ministerial Warrant signed by Bill English did not cover anything up

    first I heard I heard about Kim Dotcom was on 19 January 2012

    first I heard about the illegal spying on Kim Dotcom was in 17 September

    I did not mislead the House (14)

    I won’t be discussing Kim Dotcom during my Hollywood visit.

    The Human Rights Commission couldn’t get its submission on the GCSB legislation in on time.

    it would cost too much to for the police and SIS to carry out the spying on New Zealanders that this new legislation will permit

    critics of the GCSB legislation, including the Law Society, the Human Rights Commission, and the Privacy Commission, are all uninformed

    no, I did not mislead the House (15)

    I do not know how Mr Henry is conducting the Enquiry

    no, I did not mislead the House (16)

    the Henry Enquiry had permission to view Ministers’ emails

    no, I did not mislead the House (??)

    we do not spy on journalists

    the passing of phone records to the Henry Enquiry was an error on the part of a contractor

    I wasn’t aware that my own Chief of Staff was instructing Parliamentary Services to hand over information concerning journalist Andrea Vance

    National Ltd™ has never tried to impinge on the role of the media

    I had nothing to do with information on a journalist being handed over to the inquiry into the leaking of the GCSB report

    the terms of the enquiry made it clear to everyone that it was only the phone records of parliamentary staff and ministers that were to be provided

    I have the utmost respect for the media and the role it plays in New Zealand’s democracy

    the Henry Enquiry did not access a journalist’s building-access records

    the Henry Enquiry did not ask for phone and email records

    no, I did not mislead the House (17)

    the Greens are opposed to the GCSB and the SIS even existing

    the GCSB needs to spy on New Zealanders because there are al-Qaeda terrorists in New Zealand

    John Minto is in the Green Party

    the GCSB needs to spy on New Zealanders because of the terrorist threat, even though official reports released over my signature say there is no risk and the SIS has the matter in hand

    the GCSB Bill does not give the GCSB the power to look at the content of communications as part of its cyber-security functions

    no, I did not mislead the House (18)

    there will be no mining on Conservation land in the Corromendel

    no, I did not say we would follow the US and Australia into a war against North Korea

    New Zealand has an arrangement to have asylum seekers processed in Australian detention camps

    I did not mislead the house (19)

    I paid for that lunch and I’ve got the credit card bill to prove it

    I am honest and upfront

    the only way net new jobs can be created is by private investors putting their money into businesses in New Zealand

    you can’t hide if yuu’re Prime Minister

    an increase in the number of people looking for work indicates that confidence is returning to the economy

    the 10 percent of taxpayers in New Zealand who are the top earners pay 76 percent of all net personal tax.

    I did not mislead the House (20)

    the substantial wage growth under Labour was eroded by inflation

    National Ltd™’s 2010 tax changes were fiscally neutral

    I did not mislead the House (21)

    the bulk of New Zealanders earn between $45,000 and $75,000 a year

    Pike River Coal did not put profits and its production ahead of the safety and lives of those 29 workers.

    Radio Live had sought advice from the Electoral Commission about my show just before the election

    it is because of National Ltd™’s policies that the price of fresh fruit and vegetables has dropped.

    the length-of-the-country cycleway will create 4000 jobs.

    police training for next year has not been cancelled

    National Ltd™ has only cut back-office jobs in the health service

    The Crown’s dividend stream from the Meridians, the Mighty Rivers of the world is large and there is no motivation to sell assets; actually we’re about creating assets not selling assets.”

    National believes employment law should treat all parties fairly. It should . . . Protect employees and employers.

    I am not trying to tackle such issues in a “fearful” way ahead of the next election

    Wellington City is dying.

    National Ltd™ has been working on a number of things with New Zealand First on a number of things one of which has a financial component but I can’t talk about it

    the best way to get growth in the economy is to reduce public debt

    New Zealand mum and dad investors will be our number one priority in the allocation of Mighty River shares

    we won’t let “cowboy” oil exploration companies operate here in New Zealand

    the Green Party is racist by not allowing Chinese residents in New Zealand to buy a house

    the Labour Party is promising a four-bedroom house in Auckland for $300,000

    the food in schools programme is in the 2013 budget

    the meat exports are being held up in China because of issues in relation to the Chinese looking to trace counterfeit meat

    its notoriously difficult to win three elections in a row

    I am deeply concerned about every child in New Zealand who is in poverty

    there is no manufacturing crisis in New Zealand

    the government’s exposure to MediaWorks’ going into receivership is reasonably limited

    the money from the sale of state assets will not be used to prop up Solid Energy

    I don’t see a place for a Winston Peters-led New Zealand First in a government that I lead. It’s not a matter of political convenience, it’s a matter of political principle.

    The vast majority of the buildings in Christchurch came through the earthquakes in good shape

    the commemoration of New Zealand’s involvement in the Korean War will not be used to bolster trade talks

    third generation Chinese New Zealanders will be required to present their passport before buying a house under the Labour government

    the Labour housing policy is an attempt by David Shearer to save his leadership

    the Labour housing policy is in breach of free trade agreements

    only 2% of the proceeds of the sale of Mighty River will be spent on the sales process

    David Cunliffe is lying to you

    Labour wants to nationalise the super market industry

    The government will engage in no further negotiations with Rio Tinto

    Without a government subsidy of hundreds of millions of dollars Chorus will go broke

    No, I did not mislead the House (??)

    the justice system is already adequate for handling situations involving new evidence

    my Minister Nick Smith was not aware of the content of the leaked draft submission on the Ruataniwha situation until 17 September

    New Zealand First will nationalise a host of industries and businesses

    I have no responsibility for the statements I make

    Mark Mitchell was just gossiping at a cocktail party when he tipped Webster off about Len Brown’s affair

    it was a lack of external analysis and accountability which put Solid Energy into its debt crisis

    the Commerce Commission misinterpreted the law when deciding the price for access to the Chorus copper infrastructure

    no analyist predicted that the cost of access to the copper infrastructure would go down

    there has been only one problem with oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico

    If it was my vote, it would be no pay increases for Mps

    Greenpeace are just scare mongering about any oil leaks off the New Zealand coast

    For every election for the last five elections , we have had royal visitors to New Zealand.

    No decision has been made on the timing of the sale of Air New Zealand shares

    its not true that in New Zealand the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer

    This summer is the most active season ever for oil and gas exploration, with the industry spending up to $750 million. At the same time, the Government is strengthening the regulations that govern drilling, particularly in deep water.

    Labour is trying to mislead people about eligibility for Best Start because they don’t get the payment while they also get paid parental leave.

    • KJT 15.1

      Or. More simply put.

      “How do you know when Key is lying?

      His mouth is open…”

    • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 15.2

      tl; dr

      • McFlock 15.2.1

        too many syllables in the words, I guess.

        The nice thing about that list is that even reading a few of them demonstrates that dunnokeyo’s lying is many times more habitual than the entirety of labgrn combined.

    • geoff 15.3

      BOOM, and there it is. Nice one BliP, was hoping you might do that.

      Be great to mail that list out to all New Zealanders around election time.
      Wonder if we could rope the Brethrens in to help us?

      • freedom 15.3.1

        or
        maybe we crowd-source a basic and sporadic poster campaign and take Blip’s List to the people

        pretty sure the companies who do the paste ups would be ok with it, and we know then they are pretty safe, (although for the dedicated poster grabber they become instant collector items)

        they may even cut us a good $ deal too

        so to get Blip’s List public we need:

        ; the data – check

        ; Layout and formatting
        – I think i just saw a couple of dozen hands go up
        – perhaps they all put one together and we have Standardistas choose the preferred design
        – It would be good to print the links in full under each line
        – people will snap images of the poster with their phones so it is useful to include the info

        ; a call to Sticky Fingers to fix a contract price & terms
        – i think they cover paste ups for all the main centers now

        ; approximately a couple of grand for printing a whole bunch of posters,
        – I am guessing that price would be generously supported by the printers
        – posters can be printed in whatever center that they end up in so freight is not necessary

        seems pretty doable to me

        I pledge $20 here and now
        (which is 9% of my income this week)

        • geoff 15.3.1.1

          I love that concept!

          The font size of the lies on the list would have to be so small to fit on a poster that people would have to come nice and close to the poster to read it and that would help engage them.

          Have a nice big title and then the endless list of lies in tiny font underneath.

          You could have one of those new-fangled box shaped barcodes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_code) that people snap with their camera phones that takes them to a website with more info on the lies.

          Maybe a page title like, “We don’t care who you vote for, but for pete’s sake don’t vote for National!”

        • BLiP 15.3.1.2

          I’ll chuck in $50. Over the weekend I’ll have a look at that indie-gogo site and see what’s what. Perhaps we can rope lprent in to run the money side of things and maybe set aside a wee space on The Standard where people can link to. I don’t have a clue how those bar code thingywotsits work but it can’t be that tricky. I’ve been having some fun with with Gimp lately so I’ll also see if I can come up with a design for consideration. What say we catch up for a chat on Saturday’s “Open Mike” around 6pm-ish?

          • Colonial Viper 15.3.1.2.1

            I wonder if someone could do a Twitter account thing.

            2 or 3 times a day it tweets out some discrete element of the BS from Key, English or some other Cabinet member or their hatchet team.

            You’d probably want to start with a list of about 150 items and then build from there as the year went on.

            Would love to have that pretty boy’s disaster on Campbell Live linked to and tweeted out, for instance.

            I reckon we could get 10,000 followers by E-Day and a shit load of regular retweets out to 10x that number.

          • geoff 15.3.1.2.2

            Brilliant Blip!
            I can’t make it on Sat night but i can read the thread after the fact.
            This will be so cool if it can happen.

          • freedom 15.3.1.2.3

            Saturday sounds like a good plan Blip,
            I am hanging a new show this weekend but will try to check in, if I can’t join you all I will play catch up later. Either way, I will play around with some roughs next week.

          • lprent 15.3.1.2.4

            Perhaps we can rope lprent in to run the money side of things and maybe set aside a wee space on The Standard where people can link to. I don’t have a clue how those bar code thingywotsits work but it can’t be that tricky.

            No problems with any of that. The QR stuff is easy enough.

            I and/or TS will be happy to chip in a dollop of cash as well.

          • Cleo George 15.3.1.2.5

            Well done Blip! The truth about Key’s lies.

            Consider emailing the list with the lies and their links, to the parliamentary email addresses of all the MPs of all the non nat/act parties for their education and use.

        • Tracey 15.3.1.3

          I will put in 200. Let me know when and how. Paypal?

    • Tracey 15.4

      Thats different

    • Bill 15.5

      That list. If I’d the money, I’d flesh out or summarise the info from each link so that it fitted on – oh, I dunno – say, individual tissues of toilet paper. Then produce the whole lot in six packs of ‘extra long’ toilet rolls.

    • (a different) Pete 15.6

      And this relates to the topic under discussion … how exactly? Calling Key a liar has no relevance to the matter of whether Cunliffe made a mistake or not. Also for those of you who like to blame the media for this, you are making a mistake. I suspect that if you were a fly on the wall in a national party gathering that they would be complaining just as bitterly about the media.
      Time to lose the chip on the shoulder about whether Labour/Cunliffe is getting fair treatment and focus on doing a better job.
      Most of the comments here are just far too defensive. Take it on the chin, fix it and move on.

      [Bill: Pete, I've asked you before to change your handle since there is already a 'Pete' commenting on 'ts'. Please do it. Cheers]

      • Bill 15.6.1

        Just a reply to bring your attention to the above edit.

      • Pete 15.6.2

        Ok will do. I ignored it because I had been commenting here off and on for a while under that handle. But, no problem. Does that mean you want me to repost this under a different handle, or post all future responses under a new name?

        [lprent: Thanks. Just use a different handle - anything that is readily identifiable as being 'different'. Even "pete" would be enough - caps are easily distinguishable. We allow Rob and r0b for instance. ]

    • Will@Welly 15.7

      BLiP – your “words” are lovely. Every so often, you pop up, and refresh the conversation.
      I’d have you as an “honourary” M.P., just to keep them all honest.
      How could one not help but contribute to see BLiP’s words in print, or up on Billboards – that’d really brass Key & co off !! Damn fine idea !

  16. Xtasy 16

    The truth is that the mainly government friendly and even in many cases Key and government praising “mainstream media” staff (overseen by their editor bosses), are in too many cases partly incompetent, or lazy and simply NOT doing their jobs. Some apparently never read published releases of policy or press releases and other statements in detail.

    Others even twist and manipulate the truth, by using information selectively, by using certain, hand-picked data, and simply ignoring other relevant data. There are sadly some media “personalities” that are personally quite biased, and what they do has not much to do with traditional journalism. Uttering personal opinions has become common, when “reporting”, and this is unacceptable conduct for a good, professional and ethical journalist.

    So no wonder we get what we get, and as most are paid by their particular “paymasters” in corporate, privately owned and operated media outlets, they do not dare to bite the hand that feeds them, that also has certain “expectations” in “standards” to be followed.

    Who of them bothered to dissect and analyse the ‘SON’ speech by John Key, as that was full of untruths, half truths and twisted figures and other details. It was rather John Key “misleading” the public, than I suppose David Cunliffe.

    I sense an apparently increasing, almost “contagious” level of unacceptable “bias”, I am afraid.

    Hence we need the restoration of robust, balanced, more responsible public broadcasting media, and community based reporting and discussing of matters of relevance to New Zealanders. Social media can only do this so much.

  17. Blue 17

    Why the hell would anyone even assume that people would get both paid parental leave AND Best Start at the same time? You’d have to be a moron to think any government would allow double-dipping in this way.

    My guess is that DC didn’t state it in his speech because it’s so fucking obvious it doesn’t really need stating unless you are mentally deficient in the first place.

    • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 17.1

      Then Labour shouldn’t have been distributing material showing the baby bonus and parental leave happening simultaneously starting at birth, and Labour should have corrected the reporters when they reported what Cunliffe had said – Labour knowing that what Cunliffe had said was not literally true.

      • geoff 17.1.1

        I spose what’s most hilarious about the whole thing is Key trying to make out Cunliffe as untrustworthy.
        Key! Mr porkies himself! I spose he has that memory problem though so it’s no wonder he can’t remember the hundreds of lies he’s told NZ.

        • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 17.1.1.1

          +1 It is a breath-taking case of projection and hypocrisy.

          • emergency mike 17.1.1.1.1

            “It is a breath-taking case of projection and hypocrisy.”

            As well as that, when you are an untrustworthy liar yourself, calling your opponent an untrustworthy liar is just common sense.

      • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 17.1.2

        Weak SHG.

        ‘Wah wah, Labour shouldn’t have…bleat bleat’

        Who is to say Labour hasn’t corrected reporters reporting nonsense?
        What a pity that it has got to the point that a political party has to spend their precious time checking the accuracy of our media.
        When will our media take reporting accurately seriously?

    • Rodel 17.2

      Blue
      Absolutely!..Blindingly obvious…but then English and Key would assume double dipping is normal ethics wouldn’t they?

    • Anne 17.3

      I’ve been confused about this claim Blue because I was at the SoN speech, and Cunliffe stated parents would not start receiving Best Start until the “paid parental leave” was completed. He said it more than once to make sure every-one was clear about it. If he didn’t say it then I’m going bonkers. :(

      The problem was a poorly phrased paragraph in the Fact Sheet. I saw it online and it would have been hard to fathom what it was supposed to mean. But the media knew what it meant because they were there – unless they weren’t listening to Cunliffe. This isn’t the first time this sort of thing has happened and I suggest the Labour Party put in place a robust proof-reading system before anything ends up in the public arena. Either that, or employ people who know how to properly word documents.

      Edit: I see Disraeli Gladstone (love the pseudonym) below has made similar points. He/she is right!

      • karol 17.3.1

        I’ve been confused about this claim Blue because I was at the SoN speech, and Cunliffe stated parents would not start receiving Best Start until the “paid parental leave” was completed. He said it more than once to make sure every-one was clear about it. If he didn’t say it then I’m going bonkers.

        I was there. I don’t remember that. And it isn’t in the printed version of Cunliffe’s speech.

        • Anne 17.3.1.1

          Well, I remember him mentioning the 26 weeks parental leave and the Best Start programme more or less one after the other, and putting two and two together – correctly as it has turned out to be. Maybe it was just luck… but that is what I came away believing he said. Perhaps it was common sense kicking in.

          Was the printed version a verbatim account of what Cunliffe said? He actually spoke without any notes that I could see.

  18. Disraeli Gladstone 18

    Nope, sorry. Key is being an opportunist prick, yes. The media is beating up on Labour more than they would if this was a National mistake, yes.

    But it’s still a cock-up.

    It seems like there were two different fact sheets and the one given to the media (an earlier copy) had less facts. Why? How hard is it to make sure you have the proper fact sheet to give out and not give journalists who often tear you down a draft? A draft with holes in.

    Cunliffe was clear in his speech that it was $60 a week for the first year that your baby was born. Yes, I agree with the point that you shouldn’t delve into all the fine print of a policy within a speech. That would be stupid. You know what else is stupid? Not pointing out that the first year may in fact only be HALF of that year due to paid paternal leave.

    Ugh. It’s hard to believe but the sense of amateur hour within the top office at Labour has only increased since Shearer left.

    Someone get Malcolm Tucker in or something.

    • Lanthanide 18.1

      +++

    • burt 18.2

      Exactly, and it seems the cover-up for this stuff up is just about as feeble as the initial mistake.

      The problem is the so-called hidden information is actually right there on the first page of the factsheet Labour put up on line when policy was announced:

      I wonder why Zet specifically referred to the online fact sheet rather than the printed version given to reporters ?????

      [lprent: Don't be a dickhead burt, a moments thought would have given you the answer. Because he isn't a reporter? Like me he relies on what is visible from the net. ]

    • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 18.3

      Ugh. It’s hard to believe but the sense of amateur hour within the top office at Labour has only increased since Shearer left.

      Staggering, isn’t it ?

    • greywarbler 18.4

      Okay there was some confusion. But it was great to hear some positive new social policy.
      So next time David could give out the general info and hand out the details printed on fact sheets for the journalists so it’s incontrovertible evidence – there could even be an 0800 number to phone if they are unsure about anything. There would be less wiggle room then to weave little stories.

      David isn’t Superman, mixed with Gandalf. But he may get to where he bars Key with his magic staff and say “You shall not pass”. We could get a local doco maker to trace the battle through the year and capture the great moment on film at the end. That would be a finale! So let’s put on our hairy feet and get into training. And we won’t go into spins when there is something that ain’t perfect. We’ll be learning and moving on and upwards.

    • Anne 18.5

      I’m sure Cunliffe mentioned the Best Start programme kicking in after the 26 weeks parental leave Disraeli Gladstone.

  19. Rob 19

    To put it plainly, both sides (Labour & the media) have learnt a lot from this and will no doubt approach the next big policy release quite differently.

    Any residual honeymoon that remained from the leadership change with general media has evaporated.

    • McFlock 19.1

      thanks for your concern

      • Rob 19.1.1

        No concern McFlock at all, just a dawning reality that not much has changed at all with all the changes.

        • McFlock 19.1.1.1

          True that – no matter what policies labour comes up with, the media will always report it unfairly and other folk will always pretend that the slightest inconsistency or imprecision is a yawning chasm that will lose the Left the next election.

        • Anne 19.1.1.2

          …not much has changed at all with all the changes.

          Some truth in that – where the media is concerned.

    • Tracey 19.2

      Hi rob

      Which schools are getting the first super principals and when? WHAT is the criteria for getting one. Key didnt say and I cant find it in the media follow up. An important detail I think. Spending 359m and all

  20. Tracey 20

    Patrick gower tweeted @publicaddress @@rsalmond Agreed. Still big impact policy, nothing to be ashamed of

  21. burt 21

    Lets all get excited about how many different welfare entitlements are available and how they interact together for new parents. I know that reducing taxes for everyone and having benefits that are universal and simple will not enable Labour to stack the public service with newly created jobs. Jobs that take from the same people it gives back to in some form of merry-go-round that looks good to dim-bulb half thinkers.

    But for F-sake – how can anyone be stupid enough to support further complications of the benefit and tax system. It’s already a playground for anyone with a good accountant and a way of shuffling income between themselves, a company and/or a trust.

  22. tricledrown 22

    Burt your 1/2 right how many families are going to miss out very few just make it universal ang inccrease tax to cover.
    This is policy to aleviate child poverty and not create a poverty
    trap.
    Research out of China has shown that a family with an income of $8,000 per child guaratees that child has a 90%+ rate of sucess as an adult .
    So low income is proven to be the major factor in child povertu.
    Just giving across the board tax cuts isn’t going to fix the problem.

  23. tricledrown 23

    Burt your 1/2 right how many families are going to miss out very few just make it universal ang inccrease tax to cover.
    This is policy to aleviate child poverty and not create a poverty
    trap.
    Research out of China has shown that a family with an income of $8,000 per child guaratees that child has a 90%+ rate of sucess as an adult .
    So low income is proven to be the major factor in child povertu.
    Just giving across the board tax cuts isn’t going to fix the problem.

    • burt 23.1

      tricledrown

      So if I was earning $45K and my QC partner $3m/year and she decided to take a year off with a baby ?

      We’ll get $60/week – because we are poor ?

      • mickysavage 23.1.1

        Yep but what are the chances of you even applying if your finances are in that condition?

      • weka 23.1.2

        “We’ll get $60/week – because we are poor ?”

        No, you will get $60/wk for half the time (assuming she takes PPL), because it is a universal benefit aimed at all families to support the best start for babies in those families. If you were poor, you would get the $60 a week for 3 years instead of one.

      • felix 23.1.3

        Who cares, burt? There’s no point designing policy around what a cunt like you might do to rort it.

        Just take the $60 if you need it. How fucking hard is that?

  24. mickysavage 24

    How ironic …

    Gower accuses Cunliffe of dishonesty over a mistake. I just had a look at a video claiming to be about Cunliffe and the best start policy and the video is about interest rates increases. The video is at http://www.3news.co.nz/Cunliffe-admits-policy-speech-error/tabid/1607/articleID/330233/Default.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter but I am sure they will fix it up.

    So TV3 stuff ups happen. But no need to say it is evidence of dishonesty …

    • karol 24.1

      Hah! Tweeted it to Gower. He needs to know when his team’s stuffing up, too….. as well as when he’s being down right diversionary and spinning against the left.

    • geoff 24.2

      Classic!
      Seems like the TV3 political news team is packed full of National supporters. Campbell might be TV3’s only saving grace.

  25. fisiani 25

    The Cunliffe has really jumped the shark. Anyone care to guess what digit will follow the 2 when the next poll comes out.

    • chris73 25.1

      Now be fair its not Cunliffes fault that others report things and Cunliffe doesn’t correct them because hes a busy guy.

      I mean its obvious he helped with the formation of Fonterra, sure it was 8 hours worth of help two years before Fonterra was formed but anyone disagreeing with him is merely nit picking

      and yes there was that business with the CV but the reporters got it wrong and Cunliffe could have corrected it with a phone call but hes a busy guy

      So this is really just a case of (the evil) MSM getting the wrong end of the stick

      • Lanthanide 25.1.1

        It’s a case of some narrow parts of the MSM making a mountain out of a molehill.

        Poor form for Labour to create the molehill in the first place, though.

        • chris73 25.1.1.1

          The real problem is that this has been happening since Goff took over and still labour are managing to shoot themselves in the foot (and then blame everyone else)

          You’d think someone in labour would work it out eventually…

          • Lanthanide 25.1.1.1.1

            It wasn’t great under Goff and was particularly bad under Shearer. Cunliffe so far has been a a lot better, but they need to be near-flawless, and they aren’t.

            As others have mooted on several occasions, National can get away with being sloppy because they’re the government and the media love them, especially Key. It’s not a fair situation, but Labour have to deal with it. The Greens generally do very well, for example.

            • chris73 25.1.1.1.1.1

              I don’t agree with much of the greens but they do run a tighter ship then labour though interestingly enough i think if you combined the Greens and Nationals plans you’d probably have it spot on and you wouldn’t need Labours

              • Lanthanide

                Yeah, pity National has ruled the Greens out. And also that National are taking the country to hell in a handbasket, of course.

                • geoff

                  +1 Lanthanide!

                  • Rob

                    From a comms point of view and clearer messaging, there was probably more value in presenting both the extended parental leave and then the $60 per week benefit as an integrated package. the simple message being is that assisatnce is complete throughout the year.

                    A subtle change I know, but a more correct, clearer and robust message .

                    • Lanthanide

                      I’ve thought about that too. Unfortunately it then leads to this sort of situation:

                      Q: “And if you don’t qualify for PPL because your aren’t employed?”
                      A: “Then you get $60/week from the beginning”.

                      Then suddenly it’s framed as Labour paying special money to beneficiaries.

                    • Rob

                      Oh ok, given the range of pathways into the programmes (employed, not working etc) it is a little more complex to present.

                • chris73

                  Like the Greens would ever go with National, the Greens have made themselves Labours doormat

                  • fender

                    Like the Greens would ever go with National, the Greens have integrity and are nothing like the Maori Party.

                    FIFY

      • QoT 25.1.2

        God, if you’re back to repeating Hooton’s embarrassing little screwup on Fonterra things must be getting desperate.

        • chris73 25.1.2.1

          Merely pointing out that Cunliffe has a habit of being economical with the truth with the added bonus of showing that Labour don’t seem to be able to learn from its own mistakes

          • Colonial Viper 25.1.2.1.1

            meh

            Although Key is still the ace liar I have to admit.

          • Tracey 25.1.2.1.2

            So does key but you say you trust him. This was a stupid mistake by labour. By that standard key is up to stupid mistake 150 and climbing Agree chris?

  26. fisiani 26

    The Cunliffe visited the Pope and went out on the balcony. Everyone in St Peter’s Square was asking “Who is the old guy standing beside The Infallible Cunliffe.”

    • felix 26.1

      Can we have a whip-round to help Slater get his site back up?

    • Rob 26.2

      Yes just like the title of the 2nd book “what I learn’t from Jesus…. and what he learnt from me”.

    • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 26.3

      lolz
      Fisiani & Rob gain the most amusing right-wing sour grapes comments award – from blue leopard. Really quite funny!

      [Guess you a just sore because the person you support would only be mentioned as "an unidentified guest/author"......]

  27. Paul 27

    Posts like this challenging the corporate media’s lies and distortions are to be encouraged

  28. chris73 28

    Note to Cunliffe – check your facts

    – There you go, no more problems for Labour :)

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  • What have people in Africa been doing since the Ebola outbreak started?
    by Andy Warren In a word – dying.  But not from Ebola. According to WHO data it looks like this: However, fear and anxiety are the sexiest ingredients of any story today – rather than boring facts. Ebola fits perfectly...
    Redline | 22-10
  • Unbelieveable
    This week we've seen the Prime Minister desperately trying to cover up his war plans by pretending that Obama's war-planning meeting was just a "regular" meeting of defence partners which we just happened to be attending. Over on Kiwipolitico Pablo...
    No Right Turn | 22-10
  • Are the police using ANPR to target the disabled?
    The media this morning is full of stories of the paralysed man caught driving using a walking stick to reach the pedals. Its good that he's off the road, but there's one point in the story which raises questions:The driver...
    No Right Turn | 22-10
  • Like a cult…
    When a party loses badly, the public expects a bit of sorrowful wailing and beating of breasts. To say “This is what we did wrong, and this is how we’ll fix it” is an important part of restoring trust with...
    Occasionally erudite | 21-10
  • Does Money make Money?
    ‘Rock star economist’ or ‘inequality messiah’ French economist Thomas Piketty’s book Capital in the Twenty First Century has outsold every other book on the planet this year. The book is so popular because it floats the idea that money makes...
    Gareth’s World | 21-10
  • Cycling: the benefits of complete networks
    A group of New Zealand researchers recently published an excellent paper on the costs and benefits of investing in a complete cycle network and safe street design. Their paper, which is available online, found that: the benefits of all the...
    Transport Blog | 21-10
  • Life isn’t fair. But it should be.
    (For our opening week, we asked all our contributors to think about why they’re On The Left, and what the next three years holds for the left, the government, and New Zealand.) I was not an angelic child. My mother...
    On the Left | 21-10
  • Up here on Planet Key
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    On the Left | 21-10
  • TDB Today: Reasons not to be cheerful, Part #272b
    In my post at The Daily Blog this week I take inspiration from the great Ian Dury, and reflect on the disconnect between political ambition and the state of the climate system as it continues to warm. It will be...
    Hot Topic | 21-10
  • Otago dairy farms fail basics
    I’m really privileged to take on the responsibility of the water portfolio. Eugenie Sage has done excellent work in this area in the last term of parliament and provided a great platform for further work. Last Parliament my bill to...
    frogblog | 21-10
  • Tracking the performance of the 1 hour Xero model
    DISCLOSURE: I hold Xero shares.  Last year I built a very quick and dirty spreadsheet to analyse Xero, and wrote Valuing Xero – in one hour. The article was cross-posted to the NBR, where it attracted far more comments. More on those...
    Lance Wiggs | 21-10
  • Hard News: Media Take: The creeping politicisation of the OIA
    Brent Edwards' story last week on official advice to ministers on child poverty was interesting not only for its substance, but its circumstance.Edwards explained on Morning Report that he originally requested the first of the documents (some of them now nearly...
    Public Address | 21-10
  • Emails from the candidates
    As part of the NZ Labour leadership election, the candidates are able to email the party membership and sell themselves. Knowing how messy Labour’s membership list can be, I thought I’d reproduce the emails in case anyone wants to use...
    Progress report | 21-10
  • Gordon Campbell on Pharmac, Gough Whitlam and Sleater-Kinney
    Ridiculous reported comments on RNZ this morning by Trade Minister Tim Groser, as he sought to dampen down concerns about yesterday’s leaked draft of the IP chapter of ther Trans Pacific Partnership negotiations. According to Groser, ‘extreme’ positions are common...
    Gordon Campbell | 21-10
  • @akltransport – Please fill in a form
    Social media has become an important tool for many organisations in how they engage with their customers. It’s become a tool for both marketing and customer service, and there are a number of examples organisations who do it right. Some...
    Transport Blog | 21-10
  • Questions and Answers – October 22
    Press Release – Office of the Clerk Child PovertyGovernment Priorities and Policies 1. Hon ANNETTE KING (Acting Deputy Leader – Labour) to the Deputy Prime Minister : Will he make reducing child poverty a Better Public Service target given the...
    Its our future | 21-10
  • Alpaca Metropolitan – On The Left Special!
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    On the Left | 21-10
  • Video Against Poverty
    Schoolgirls in Kalimpong, West Bengal, India.  Photo / Julie Zhu This is week two of my givealittle.co.nz campaign Video Against Poverty and I'm more than 2/3 of the way to my goal of $2600.00.  This has been totally unexpected and is a really...
    Notes from the edge | 21-10
  • Why I’m Left
    I’m Left all the way down to my bones. My bone marrow is made up of lots of microscopic Karl Marx mustaches. It’s partly why I’m so curmudgeonly. When I was born I was brought home from the hospital to...
    Tangerina | 21-10
  • Gordon Campbell on Pharmac, Gough Whitlam and Sleater-Kinney
    Column – Gordon Campbell Ridiculous reported comments on RNZ this morning by Trade Minister Tim Groser, as he sought to dampen down concerns about yesterdays leaked draft of the IP chapter of ther Trans Pacific Partnership negotiations.Gordon Campbell on Pharmac,...
    Its our future | 21-10
  • Don’t cough on me
    It used to be acceptable to go to work or travel with a cough or the flu. That’s been changing over the last 10-20 years, and people who cough and sniffle in public are increasingly treated like people who smoke in the...
    Lance Wiggs | 21-10
  • Some might just come by train.
        As a Waikato girl by birth, Aucklander by nature, and living in Hamilton by choice, I’ve long being a supporter a regular train gig chugging the willing and the weary between the hustle and pace of Auckland and...
    Politically Corrected | 21-10
  • Green Party expresses sympathy for Canadian shooting victims
    The Green Party expressed its solidarity with Canadians and the Canadian Parliament today, offering its sympathy for family and friends of the soldier killed in the attack. "Our thoughts are with all those caught up in the shooting in Canada...
    Greens | 22-10
  • Prime Minister must honour his promise
    It’s time for John Key to honour his promise to the Pike River families, says Labour MP Damien O’Connor.  “International mine experts have confirmed the view of WorkSafe New Zealand and many miners on the West Coast that it is...
    Labour | 22-10
  • EPA finds Shell Oil illegally drilled two wells
    The Environmental Protection Authority (EPA) has concluded that Shell Todd Oil Services (STOS) broke the law by drilling two wells without a marine consent off the coast of Taranaki, the Green Party said today. The EPA conducted an inspection of...
    Greens | 22-10
  • Soaring rail use in Auckland shows need for rail link now
    News that Aucklanders overtook Wellingtonians as the biggest train users is further evidence the Government needs to start work on the Auckland City Rail Link now, the Green Party said today.Auckland Transport said today that in the year to September,...
    Greens | 22-10
  • Tea breaks gone by lunch time
    Labour is calling for an eleventh hour reprieve to employment law changes which could see thousands of Kiwi workers not covered by collective agreements lose their smoko breaks, its spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.“How cynical that on the...
    Labour | 21-10
  • Metiria Turei to lead fight on feeding hungry children
    Green Party Co-leader Metiria Turei is urging all political parties to support the Feed the Kids Bill which she inherited today from Mana leader Hone Harawira.Mrs Turei, who leads the Green Party's work on child poverty, will pick up Mr...
    Greens | 21-10
  • Otago dairy farms fail basics
    I’m really privileged to take on the responsibility of the water portfolio. Eugenie Sage has done excellent work in this area in the last term of parliament and provided a great platform for further work. Last Parliament my bill to...
    Greens | 21-10
  • A mighty totara has fallen across the Tasman
    The New Zealand Labour Party expresses deep sadness at the death of former Australian prime minister Gough Whitlam, aged 98. “Today a great totara has fallen across the Tasman,” Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says....
    Labour | 21-10
  • Note to National: Must deliver on child poverty
    John Key and his Government will be held to its promise to make child poverty a priority, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “In its priority-setting speech today the Government stated child poverty would be a major focus for...
    Labour | 21-10
  • New Analysis show Government cut tertiary education funding
    New analysis done by the Green Party today shows the Government has made cuts to funding of tertiary education since 2008.Figures compiled by the Parliamentary Library show that between 2009 and 2015 Government funding to Tertiary Institutions dropped by 4...
    Greens | 21-10
  • Students doing it tough as fees rise again
    The Government is making it increasingly difficult for Kiwis to gain tertiary education as fees continue to rise and access to student support becomes even more restricted, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Steven Joyce is shutting a generation...
    Labour | 20-10
  • Key misled New Zealand on Iraq deployment
      John Key was misleading New Zealanders prior to the election when he ruled out New Zealand special forces being deployed to Iraq, says Labour Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff.  “Post-election he has cynically disregarded that by saying that deployment of...
    Labour | 20-10
  • Swearing about swearing the oath
    Yesterday, I was swearing. Swearing the Parliamentary oath, that is. But, under my breath, I was also quietly swearing about the archaic, colonial form of that oath and its inappropriateness for today’s Aotearoa New Zealand. To be permitted to speak...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Damning report on Ruataniwha dam numbers
    When I presented my submission to the Board of Inquiry on the Tukituki Catchment Proposal I compared the proposed 83 metre high Ruataniwha dam with the Clyde Dam and noted the risk of cost blowouts in the construction process.  The...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Church congratulated on child poverty stand
    The efforts by the bishops of the Anglican Church to ensure that the issue of child poverty is not forgotten is a call to all New Zealanders to take action, says Labour’s Interfaith-Dialogue Spokesperson, Su’a William Sio.   “I think...
    Labour | 19-10
  • Labour names Review Team
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has appointed Bryan Gould as Convenor of its post-General Election Review.  He will be joined on the Review Team by Hon Margaret Wilson, Stacey Morrison and Brian Corban (see further biographical details here). The Review Team...
    Labour | 19-10
  • Labour backs urban development plans
    Auckland Council’s plan to set up an urban development agency is to be applauded and central government should get behind it to make it a success, Labour’s Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford says. Auckland Council CEO Stephen Town has indicated plans...
    Labour | 18-10
  • New Zealand can be rightly proud of seat on Security Council
    Gaining a seat on the United Nation’s Security Council shows the sort of standing that New Zealand has in the world and the quality of the long campaign that we ran over nearly a decade, says Foreign Affairs spokesperson David...
    Labour | 16-10
  • NZ has opportunity on UN Security Council
    New Zealand has an opportunity to make a major contribution to the strengthening of international law and institutional capacity through its upcoming two-year tenure on the United Nations Security Council, Green Party spokesperson on global affairs, Dr Kennedy Graham said...
    Greens | 16-10
  • MPI still dragging the chain over causes of food bug
    The Ministry of Primary Industries’ release of Environmental Science and Research’s initial reports regarding the sources of a nasty stomach bug will be little comfort to the 127 people affected by it, Labour’s Food Safety spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “This...
    Labour | 16-10
  • Treasury officials should try working without food
    The Green Party is challenging Treasury officials to work for a week without eating properly, in light of their advice to Government that a food in schools programme is not needed."Treasury's advice was that providing food for children in schools...
    Greens | 15-10
  • Councils need to better protect our drinking water
    Environment Canterbury (ECan) is proposing several variations to its regional land and water plan that will allow for increased nutrient and other pollution from irrigation and intensive agriculture on the Canterbury Plains. Commissioners are hearing submissions on Variation 1 to...
    Greens | 15-10
  • National needs to commit to making NZ workers safe
    The National Government must do more to help make New Zealand workplaces a safer place to work in, Green Party industrial relations spokesperson Denise Roche said today.Data released by Statistics New Zealand today showed that workers in the fishing and...
    Greens | 15-10
  • Key commits to deployment before consultation or analysis
    John Key’s offer to consult Opposition parties on whether to deploy New Zealand forces against ISIS looks increasingly like a PR exercise only, says Labour’s Defence spokesperson, Phil Goff. “The presence of New Zealand’s Chief of Defence Force at a...
    Labour | 15-10
  • National must end ideological opposition to raising income
    If John Key is serious about tackling child poverty he must approach it with an open mind, and overcome his ideological block to raising incomes as a solution, the Green Party said today.Papers released to Radio New Zealand today show...
    Greens | 14-10
  • Pentagon links climate change and terrorism
    Yesterday the Pentagon launched a plan to deal with a threat that “poses immediate risks to national security”; one that “will affect the Department of Defense’s ability to defend the nation”. It wasn’t referring to Ebola or ISIS. It was...
    Greens | 14-10
  • Four Nominees for Labour’s Leadership
    As at 5pm today four valid nominations had been received for the position of Labour Leader, as follows: Andrew Little(nominated by Poto Williams and Iain Lees-Galloway) Nanaia Mahuta(nominated by Louisa Wall and Su’a William Sio) David Parker(nominated by Damien O’Connor...
    Labour | 14-10
  • Green Party calls for consultation over terrorism law changes
    The Green Party has today written to the Prime Minister asking him to engage in wider consultation prior to changing any laws as a result of the recently announced terrorism law reviews, said the Green Party today. In a letter...
    Greens | 14-10
  • MPI must name product and supermarket chain
    The Ministry of Primary Industries must name the product responsible for severe gastroenteritis affecting people around the country, and the supermarket chain distributing it, Labour’s Food Safety spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “The Ministry seems to be more concerned about protecting...
    Labour | 13-10
  • John Key dishonest about reasons for wanting to change terrorism law
    John Key is misleading the public to push through terrorism law changes under urgency, the Green Party said today. On Sunday, John Key stated that it is not illegal for someone to fight overseas for a terrorist group, such as...
    Greens | 12-10
  • Law changes shaping up to be worse than first thought
    The Prime Minister needs to be up front about exactly what changes he is planning to make to the Employment Relations  Amendment Bill, Labour's spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.Interviewed on Q&A yesterday John Key said he did not...
    Labour | 12-10
  • Rapists, not Tinder, the threat to women
    Blame for rape and sexual assault should only ever be laid at the door of the perpetrator, not dating services or the actions of women themselves, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “Tinder is not the problem and women...
    Labour | 09-10
  • Safer Journeys For People Who Cycle
    You have a rare opportunity to tell the people who are making the decisions on cycling how to make it better. The Cycling Safety Panel is seeking feedback on their draft recommendations for improving the safety of cycling in New...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Subsidising more pollution will undermine water clean-up plan at Te Waihora...
    In 2010, NIWA found Canterbury’s Te Waihora/Lake Ellesmere had the worst nutrient status of 140 lakes around New Zealand that it measured. In 2011, the National Government committed to spending $15 million across the country through the Fresh Start for...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Adding value not herbicides
    The HT swedes, and other brassicas, might seem like a good idea to farmers struggling against weeds but like the GE road, is this the path we want our agriculture to be treading? The Federated Farmers President, Dr William Rolleston...
    Greens | 07-10
  • ‘Blame the Planner’ bizarre approach to child poverty
    The National Government is stooping to a bizarre new low in blaming "planning processes" for poverty and inequality, after spending six years doing nothing about either the housing market or child poverty, the Green Party said today. Finance Minister Bill...
    Greens | 07-10
  • Media Advisory
    MANA Leader, Hone Harawira will not be available to speak with media today regarding his release “Recount Just One Step To restoring Credibility”. He is however available for media comment tomorrow, Tuesday the 8th of October, all media arrangements are...
    Mana | 07-10
  • RECOUNT JUST ONE STEP TO RESTORING CREDIBILITY
    “I have applied for a judicial recount of the votes in the Tai Tokerau election because it is one step in trying to restore credibility to the electoral process in the north, and, I suspect, in all other Maori electorates...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA SEEKS TAI TOKERAU RECOUNT
    The MANA Movement is supporting Leader Hone Harawira’s application for a judicial re-count in the Te Tai Tokerau electorate for the 2014 general election. President Lisa McNab says there are a number of serious issues of concern regarding the ability...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA to fight mass privatisation of state housing
    Announcements over the past 12 hours from the Minister responsible for Housing New Zealand, Bill English, and Minister for Social Housing, Paula Bennett, make clear the government’s intention for the mass privatisation of state housing. This comes during the middle...
    Mana | 07-10
  • Journalists have right to protect sources
    Legal authorities must respect the right of journalist Nicky Hager to protect the source of his material for his Dirty Politics book under Section 68 of the Evidence Act, Acting Labour Leader David Parker says. “It is crucial in an...
    Labour | 06-10
  • It shouldn’t take the Army to house the homeless
    National’s move to speed up its state house sell-off shows it is bankrupt of new ideas, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “National has been in office for six years, yet the housing crisis has got worse every month and...
    Labour | 06-10
  • Government must lift social housing supply, not shuffle the deck chairs
    National's decision to shift the state provision of housing to third parties is a smokescreen for the Government decreasing the provision of affordable housing, the Green Party said today."What National should be doing is increasing the supply of both social...
    Greens | 06-10
  • Election 2014 – the final count
    While we have to wait for the final booth level counts we can now see how well we did in the specials and look at electorate level data. First off special votes (and disallowed/recounted votes etc). There was a change...
    Greens | 06-10
  • We need more houses, not Ministers
    The Government’s decision to have three housing Ministers will create a dog’s breakfast of the portfolio and doesn’t bode well for fixing the country’s housing crisis, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “New Zealanders need more houses, not more Ministers....
    Labour | 05-10
  • MANA’S CHALLENGE TO THE 51st PARLIAMENT
    Ten years ago I led 50,000 Maori on the historic FORESHORE AND SEABED MARCH from Te Rerenga Wairua to the very steps of this parliament, in a march against the greatest land grab in the history of this country –...
    Mana | 03-10
  • Is this really necessary?
    No one denies chief executives should be well paid for their skills and experience, but it is the efforts of all employees which contribute to company profits, Labour’s Acting Leader David Parker says. “Salaries paid to chief executives come at...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Lyttelton Port workers also deserve pay rises
    Hard slog by Lyttelton Port workers contributed to strong financial growth for the company and they deserve to be rewarded for their work as much as its chief executive, says Labour’s Acting Leader David Parker. “Lyttelton Port chief executive Peter...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Māori Party must seek guarantees on Māori seats
    Labour is calling on the Māori Party to ensure protection of the Māori seats is part of its coalition deal with National which is being considering this weekend, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “For the third consecutive term,...
    Labour | 02-10
  • Donaghys job losses another blow to Dunedin
    The loss of 30 jobs from Donaghys rope and twine factory is yet another blow to the people and economy of Dunedin, says Dunedin South Labour MP Clare Curran. “Donaghys was founded in 1876; the company has survived two world...
    Labour | 02-10
  • 5AA Australia – NZ on UN Security Council + Dirty Politics Lingers On
    5AA Australia: Selwyn Manning and Peter Godfrey deliver their weekly bulletin Across The Ditch. General round up of over night talkback issues: Thongs, Jandals and flip-flops… ISSUE 1: New Zealand has been successful in its campaign to become a non...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • When I mean me, I mean my office & when I call whaleoil I mean not as m...
    This. Is. Ludicrous. Green Party co-leader Russel Norman put the first of what are likely to be many questions about Mr Key’s relationship with Slater, asking him how many times he had phoned or texted the blogger since 2008. “None...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • A brief word on describing the Government as ‘boring and bland’
    The narrative being sown is that this Government will be a boring and bland third term. Boring and bland. Since the election, Key has announced he is privatising 30% of state houses without reinvesting any of that money back into housing society’s most...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • More Latté Than Lager: Reflections on Grant Robertson’s Campaign Launch.
    BIKERS? SERIOUSLY! Had Grant Robertson’s campaign launch been organised by Phil Goff? Was this a pitch for the votes of what few Waitakere Men remain in the Labour Party? Was I even at the right place? Well, yes, I was....
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • About Curwen Ares Rolinson
    Curwen Ares Rolinson – Curwen Ares Rolinson is a firebrand young nationalist presently engaged in acts of political resistance deep behind enemy lines amidst the leafy boughs of Epsom. He is affiliated with the New Zealand First Party; although his...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kelly Ellis
    Kelly Ellis.Kelly Ellis – As a child, Kelly Ellis didn’t so much fall into the cracks, but willfully wriggled her way into them. Ejected from Onslow College – a big job in the 70s – Kelly worked in car factories,...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kate Davis
    Kate Davis.Kate Davis – Having completed her BA in English and Politics, Kate is now starting her MA. Kate works as a volunteer advocate at Auckland Action Against Poverty and previously worked for the New Zealand Prostitutes Collective. Kate writes...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Parker does a Shearer – oh for a Labour Leader who can challenge msm fals...
    Sigh. It seems David Parker has done a Shearer… Like a cult and too red – Parker on LabourLabour leadership contender David Parker says Labour borders on feeling like “a cult” and must look at its branding – including its...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • A brief word on the hundreds of millions NZ is spending on the secret intel...
    The enormity of the mass surveillance state NZ Government’s have built carries a huge price tag… Kiwis pay $103m ‘membership fee’ for spyingThe $103 million taxpayer funding of New Zealand’s intelligence agencies is effectively a membership fee for joining the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Where. Is. Jason. Ede?
    Where. Is. Jason. Ede?...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Labour’s Din of Inequity
    Watching Labour’s leadership candidates on Q+A on Sunday, I noticed the ongoing use of terms like “opportunity” and “aspiration”, and “party of the workers”. What do these mean? We glean much from Labour, and from the media about Labour, but not...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • “Blue-Greenwash” fails the test when it comes to endangered dolphins
    National’s pre-election promises saw some wins for the environment – perhaps as the party sought to appease its “Blue-Green” voters and broaden its popular appeal. Some of the ecological gains were a long time in the making, overdue even– such...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Reasons not to be cheerful, Part #272b
    Why don’t you get back into bed? The next few years — the rest of this century — are not going to be pretty. There is an obvious disconnect between any remaining political ambition to fix climate change and the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • OIA protocols and official advice ignored to hide Child Poverty
    It might not seem so now, but child poverty was a major election issue. What a pity we did not have the full debate. In that debate it would have been very helpful to have seen the Ministry of Social...
    The Daily Blog | 20-10
  • Previewing the 4 candidates for Leader of the Labour Party
    The extraordinary outbursts by Shearer last week highlights just how toxic that Caucus is. Shearer was on every major media platform as the ABC attack dog tearing into Cunliffe in the hope of diminishing Cunliffe’s support of Little by tearing...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – the sudden explosion of ‘left’ blogs
    Time to Teach or more people will suffer from P.A.I.D. Political And Intellectual Dysmorphia.I was on the Twitter and a guy followed me so of course I did the polite thing and followed him back. He wrote a blog so...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Ego vs Eco
    Ego vs Eco...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • We can’t let the Roastbuster case slip away
    Those of us (like me) left with hope that the police would aggressively follow through on the large amount of evidence on offer to them (let’s not forget they forgot they even had some at one point) in the Roastbusters...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Food, shelter and medicine instead of bombs and bullets
    The on-going conflict across the Middle East – due in large part to the US-led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq – has created another humanitarian crisis of biblical proportion. The essentials of life are desperately needed in Iraq and Syria...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • The politics of electorate accommodations
    National’s electorate accommodations with ACT and United Future were a big factor in it winning re-election. Interestingly, there is another electorate accommodation scenario whereby the centre-left could have come out on top, even with the same distribution of party votes....
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Why you should join the TPPA Action on 8 November
    On 8 November 2014, thousands of Kiwis will take part in the International Day of Action to protest the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA). The rally cry for us is TPPA – Corporate Trap, Kiwis Fight Back. Why should you join...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG – Patrick O’Dea: no new coal mines
    Green Party and Mana Party policy is “NO NEW COAL MINES!” Auckland Coal Action is trying to put this policy into action on the ground. ACA after a hard fought two year campaign waged alongside local residents and Iwi, in...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Comparing Police action – Hager raid vs Roast Buster case
    This satire had the NZ Police contact TDB and threaten us with 6months in prison for using their logo.   The plight of Nicky Hager and the draconian Police actions against him has generated over  $53 000 in donations so...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Malala Yousafzai, White Saviour Complexes and Local Resistance
    Last week, Malala Yousafzai was the co-recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. Since her exposure to the worldwide spotlight, her spirit, wisdom and strength have touched the hearts of people everywhere. However, there have been cynics who have argued that...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Jason Ede is back – but no media can interview him?
    Well, well, well. Jason Ede, the main figure connected to John Key’s office and the Dirty Politics black ops is back with a company with deep ties to the National Party. One thing you can say about the right –...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Leadership Transitions In Other Parties: A ...
    As cannot have escaped anyone’s attention by now, the country is presently in the grips of an election and campaign that will help determine the fate of the nation for years to come. It’s gripping stuff – with clear divides...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • SkyCity worker says she faces losing her house
    SkyCity worker Carolyn Alpine told the company annual shareholder’s meeting today that she faced the prospect of losing her house because the company had cut her shifts from two a week to one without consultation. The solo mother, has worked...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • Greg O’Connor’s latest push to arm cops & 5 reasons not to
    I was wondering at what point within a 3rd term of National that Police Cheerleader Greg O’Connor would start trying to demand cops be armed. O’Connor must have thought to himself, ‘if bloody Key can get us and the GCSB vast new...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • You can’t have crisis without ISIS
    So the new scary bogeyman ISIS might have chemical weapons that the US secretly found in Iraq, but America didn’t want to expose this find because the WMDs were actually built and made by the US and Europe, the two powers...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • NZ WINS UN SPIN THE BOTTLE! Privately sucking up to America for a decade me...
    Oh, we are loved! Little old NZ, the 53rd state of America after Israel and Australia, gets to sit at the adults table for the special dinner party that is the UN Security Council. How delightful, a decade of privately...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • MEDIA BLOG – Myles Thomas – A World Without Advertising
    Non-commercial broadcasting and media. It’s a solution for all manner of problems ailing our tender nation… voter engagement, unaccountable governance, apathy, stupefaction, public education, science in schools, arts appreciation, cultural cringe… But no-one could’ve guessed that non-commercial media might solve...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October
    March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • Whack a mole as US govt foreign policy
    Whack-A-Mole was a popular arcade game from my youth.  It consisted of a waist high cabinet with holes in the top. Plastic moles seemingly randomly pop out of these holes. The purpose of the game was to hit as many...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • In Paean of Debt
    This week is ‘Money Week’. It’s an opportunity to promote to the middle classes, and anyone else who will listen, the virtues of wise ‘investment’. The aims are to promote the mystical (and indeed mythical) virtues of saving for the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • The last 48 hours – Poverty denial, war denial and unapologetic abuse of ...
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    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Mana 2.0 Rebooted
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    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Blomfield IPCA letter – Has Dirty Politics leaked into the NZ Police ...
    It’s difficult to know what to make of the IPCA letter to Matthew Blomfield over Slater’s continued insistence that the hard drive taken from Matthew wasn’t stolen.  Slater has selectively cherry picked the Police referring back to his claim that Blomfeild perjured...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • ​Media release: Rail and Maritime Transport Union – Auckland move for K...
    The Rail and Maritime Transport Union is questioning a KiwiRail proposal to progressively relocate its Zero Harm personnel from Wellington to Auckland. “The purpose of the Zero Harm team is to drive KiwiRail’s performance in health and safety.  Rail is a...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Amnesty International – Friend request from an IS militant
    There’s always that one person, that one Facebook friend, usually a musician or event promoter, who, when you so foolishly accept their friend request, will completely inundate your news feed with copious event invitations and promotions. The person who, despite...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • NZ should follow the UK and recognize the Palestinian state
    Over the past two weeks, the United Kingdom and Sweden have made headlines through their decisions to recognize the state of Palestine. They are hardly the first nations to do so. Indeed, 134 countries have, in various ways, given formal...
    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • The Discordant Chimes of Freedom: Why Labour has yet to be forgiven.
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    The Daily Blog | 15-10
  • Hosking or Henry – Which right wing crypto fascist clown do you want to w...
    So Mediaworks are finally going to make some actual money from their eye watering contract with Paul Henry by launching a new multi-platform Breakfast show over TV, Radio and internet. This is great news for Campbell Live who have dodged...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Families need more money to reduce child poverty
    Prime Minister John Key is mistaken to rule out extending the In Work Tax Credit to all poor children (The Nation 11th Oct) and Child Poverty Action Group challenges government advisors to come up with a more cost effective way...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – Don’t shit on my dream
    Once were dreamers. A large man, walks down the road and, even from 200 yards there’s light showing between his big arms and bigger body. It’s as if he’s put tennis balls under his arms. Two parking wardens walk out...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Labour and ‘special interests’
    The media narrative of Labour is that it is unpopular because it’s controlled by ‘special interests’. This ‘special interests’ garbage is code for gays, Maoris, wimin and unionists. We should show that argument the contempt it deserves. The next Labour...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Ru...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Tahi) . National’s housing development project: ‘Gateway’ to confusion . Perhaps nothing better illustrates National’s lack of a coherent housing programme than the ‘circus’ that is...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • Here’s what WINZ are patronisingly saying to people on welfare when they ...
    Yesterday, a case manager from WINZ called to tell me that I needed to “imagine what I would do if I did not have welfare”. I replied “Well, I guess if I couldn’t live at home, I would be homeless.”...
    The Daily Blog | 14-10
  • David Shearer’s ‘no feminist chicks’ mentality highlights all that is...
    Mr Nasty pays a visit Shearer’s extraordinary outburst last night on NZs favourite redneck TV, The Paul Henry Show, is a reminder of all that is wrong within the Labour Caucus right now… He said the current calls for a female or...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Greenpeace 1 – Shell 0
    Greenpeace 1 – Shell 0...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – A Tale Of Two Cities
    Sunday was surreal. I went for a drive and ended up in a different country. It wasn’t intentional but those days of too many literally intertextual references seldom are. There is no doubt that the Sunday drive this week had...
    The Daily Blog | 13-10
  • Auckland Rates Rises Out of Control
    Responding to the NZ Herald report that Auckland ratepayers will face an average of a 29 percent rates increase, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “These rate rises show that Len Brown's spending is out of control.”...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Protest at New Plymouth Oil and Gas Expo
    About 30 protesters from Climate Justice Taranaki, Frack-free Kapiti, Te Uru Pounamu Action Group, Oil Free Wellington, Frack-free Manawatu and the east coast protested yesterday outside New Plymouth's biennial Oil and Gas Expo at the TSB Stadium....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • FMA warns consumers about cold-calling investment offers
    The Financial Markets Authority (FMA) is warning New Zealand consumers and investors to be wary of cold-calls asking them to buy shares or put their money into offshore firms....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Comprehensive plan needed to end child poverty
    Child Poverty Action Group says it is vital the newly re-elected National government takes a planned and comprehensive approach to reducing child poverty in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Metiria Gets Feed the Kids
    Yesterday the Speaker of the House advised that he had accepted my request to transfer my Feed the Kids (Education (Breakfast and Lunch Programmes in Schools) Amendment) Bill to Metiria Turei of the Green Party....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • DIA undercover investigation leads to jailing
    An undercover Internal Affairs investigation has led to a Hastings man being jailed for three and half years....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Call on Minister McCully to pursue the case of Balibo Five
    Media Information: Call on Minister McCully to pursue the case of journalist Gary Cunningham and the Balibo Five...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Australia and NZ actions on press freedoms alarming
    Global support for investigative journalism in Australia and New Zealand is a welcome response to law changes and a police raid, says the Pacific Freedom Forum...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Call for release of French journalists in West Papua
    West Papua Action Auckland, the EPMU Print and Media Council and the NZ Media Freedom Network call on the Minister of Foreign Affairs to speak out in support of the two French TV journalists whose trial has just begun in...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Court of Appeal: Dotcom v 20th Century Fox Film Corporation
    A The appeal is dismissed. B The 20 August 2014 order of the High Court dealing with confidentiality and the 29 August 2014 order of this Court dealing with confidentiality are set aside. C The confidentiality orders set out in...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Glassons Blasted For Glamourising Animal Cruelty
    Clothing brand Glassons have found themselves embroiled in another controversy after launching a new advert featuring a girl riding a bull. Animal advocacy organisation SAFE have asked them to remove the ad immediately as it glamourises animal cruelty....
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Smuggling honey into New Zealand isn’t sweet
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    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Taxpayers’ Union Responds to Joyce on Corporate Welfare
    Responding to Economic Development Minister Steven Joyce’s defence of corporate welfare , Jim Rose, the author of Monopoly Money , a Taxpayers Union report on corporate welfare since 2008, says:...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech from the Throne brings welcome focus on children
    Today’s speech from the Throne confirms the Government’s focus on children, youth and their families in the areas of health, education, youth employment, poverty alleviation and Whānau Ora; now the challenge is to ensure every child in New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • John’s Job Fairs no fix for unemployment and poverty
    “John Key has clearly been looking to the US for his latest bright idea on dealing with employment issues,” says Auckland Action Against Poverty coordinator Sue Bradford. “Job fairs where the desperately unemployed queue in their corporate best to compete...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech From the Throne Foreshadows More Corporate Welfare
    Responding to the Governor General’s Speech from the Throne, which outlined that the Government’s intentions for the next Parliamentary term would include further Business Growth Agenda initiatives, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Green MP to speak at panel on Rainbow Mental Health
    Hamilton, New Zealand: Recently re-elected Green Party MP Jan Logie will be a guest speaker at a panel on the mental health of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Trangender, Takataapui and Intersex people taking place on November 1st as part of the...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Evidence Supports GE Moratorium
    Federated Farmers spokesman Graham Smith's call for a 'rethink' on release of GeneticallyEngineered organisms is misguided, and instead it is time for a formal moratorium on GMOs in the environment.(1)...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Chatham Rise mining could have impact on whales and dolphins
    Wellington, 21 October 2014--Mining phosphate on the Chatham Rise, off the east coast of New Zealand’s south island, could potentially have many impacts on marine mammals like whales and dolphins, the Environmental Protection Agency was told today....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Council endorses Nanaia Mahuta as the next Labour leader
    Te Kaunihera Māori, the Māori Council of the New Zealand Labour Party, have passed a resolution to endorse the Hon Nanaia Mahuta as the next leader of the Labour Party...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Kaumatua to organise petition to end Maori seats
    Ngapuhi kaumatua David Rankin has announced that he will be organising a nationwide petition to seek support from Maori voters to end the Maori seats. “These seats are patronising”, he says. “They imply we need a special status, and that...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Announcing a New Voice for The Left
    Josh Forman is pleased to announce the creation of a new force on the Left of politics in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Public services held back by poor workplace culture
    A new report by Victoria University’s Centre for Labour, Employment and Work shows that public servants are working significant unpaid overtime to ensure the public services New Zealanders value are able to continue....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • iPredict New Zealand Weekly Economic & Political Update
    Andrew Little’s probability of being the next leader of the Labour Party has reached 70% and Jacinda Ardern is favourite to become his deputy, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Prison Drug Treatment Unit marks a milestone
    Christchurch Men’s Prison’s Drug Treatment Unit (DTU) celebrated the completion of its 50th six month Drug and Alcohol Programme today, with the graduation of a further twelve offenders....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Security Council seat a chance for NZ to empower women
    The UN Women National Committee Aotearoa New Zealand (UN Women NCANZ) welcomes New Zealand winning a seat on the United Nations Security Council and is calling on New Zealand to use its position to proactively promote effective implementation of the...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Waipareira and ACC sign Partnership
    Waipareira and The Accident Compensation Corporation (ACC) have signed a Memorandum of Understanding at Whanau Centre, Henderson – marking a special day for the West Auckland Urban Maori organisation....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Humanitarian aid desperately needed in Iraq and Syria
    Global Peace and Justice Auckland is calling on the government to provide humanitarian funding for non-aligned NGOs (non-governmental organisations) in the Middle East rather than give any support whatever for the US-led military campaign in the area....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Court Judicial Decision: Dotcom v The USA: 17 October 2014
    The United States of America is seeking the extradition of Messrs Dotcom, Batato, Ortmann and Van Der Kolk. The matter has been before the Courts on numerous occasions, and no further recitation of the facts is needed....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Marshall Island poet speaks at UN climate summit
    “The fossil fuel industry is the biggest threat to our very existence as Pacific Islanders. We stand to lose our homes, our communities and our culture. But we are fighting back. This coming Friday thirty Pacific Climate Warriors, joined by...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Many tourist car accidents preventable
    Simple steps could dramatically reduce the number of accidents involving tourists, says the car review website dogandlemon.com ....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • RainbowYOUTH: 25 Years, 25 More
    In 1989, a group of young people in Auckland got together to form a support group for LGBTIQ youth. They called it Auckland Lesbian And Gay Youth (ALGY). After 25 years, several location changes, a name change, a brand reboot...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Outdated Oath shows need for Kiwi Head of State
    MPs are sworn in today and New Zealand Republic has written to MPs asking them to talk about why 121 New Zealanders elected by the people of New Zealand and standing in the New Zealand Parliament swear allegiance to another...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Council shouldn’t revenue grab from windfall valuations
    Auckland Council should state clearly they will not try and capture revenue as a result of the latest valuations and needs reminding that the City’s skyrocketing property values doesn’t change the level or cost of Council’s services, says...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • EPMU endorses Andrew Little for Labour leadership
    The National Executive of the Engineering, Printing and Manufacturing Union unanimously endorsed Andrew Little for the role of Labour leader, at a meeting held yesterday. “I have been speaking to our workplace delegates at forums across the country over...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • World Food Day promotes Agroecology not GE technology
    The UN has stated that agroecology is a major solution to feeding the world and caring for the earth....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Labour Names Review Team
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has appointed Bryan Gould as Convenor of its post-General Election Review. He will be joined on the Review Team by Hon Margaret Wilson, Stacey Morrison and Brian Corban....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Contenders for Labour leadership debate for first time
    The contenders for the leadership of the Labour Party debated for the first time on TV One’s Q+A programme today....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • UN Ambassador Jim McLay on TV One’s Q+A programme
    New Zealand's United Nations Ambassador Jim McLay on TV One’s Q+A programme....
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • The Nation: RSA President BJ Clark & Ian Taylor, New NZ Flag
    Lisa Owen interviews RSA President BJ Clark and tech innovator Ian Taylor about changing the NZ flag...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • The Nation: RSA President BJ Clark & Ian Taylor, New NZ Flag
    Lisa Owen interviews RSA President BJ Clark and tech innovator Ian Taylor about changing the NZ flag...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • Lisa Owen interviews Foreign Minister Murray McCully
    Murray McCully says New Zealanders can expect a 5-10 year engagement against Islamic State if we join military action in Iraq and the government will take that “very carefully into account”...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • Lisa Owen interviews Julia Gillard
    Julia Gillard says there is “sufficient evidence” to fight Islamic State and does not think it will increase the risk of a domestic attack...
    Scoop politics | 18-10
  • NZ businesses to make child abuse a priority conversation
    Many leading New Zealand businesses have partnered with national child advocacy organisation Child Matters to participate in the fourth annual ‘Buddy Day’ - New Zealand’s only child abuse prevention awareness day....
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • Tribunal decision significant for SMEs
    The Human Rights Review Tribunal decided this week in favour of an employee’s right not to work on Saturdays for religious reasons. The decision may still be appealed but the Director of the Office of Human Rights Proceedings, Robert Kee,...
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • On The Nation this weekend
    This weekend on The Nation… New Zealand has been elected to the United Nations Security Council, but what happens next? Lisa Owen interviews Foreign Minister Murray McCully from New York about our goals for reform, what America wants from us...
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • 1000+ supported by Te Arawa Whanau Ora
    Over 1000 individual whānau members are leading happier, healthier, more successful lives as a result of eight passionate and committed Māori organisations working at the coalface to help whānau find success....
    Scoop politics | 17-10
  • Nomination for Board Members Now Open
    CRF’s objective is to create opportunities for people from refugee backgrounds to lead fulfilling lives and contribute to every area of New Zealand society. It is an organisation that undertakes advocacy work using the strengths-based approach,...
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Anglican Family Care Otago staff to take industrial action
    Social workers, family workers and support staff working for Anglican Family Care in Dunedin and South Otago will take industrial action after their employer refused a pay increase that would keep up with the rising cost of living....
    Scoop politics | 16-10
  • Use UN Security Council role to overcome inaction and injust
    Amnesty International welcomes New Zealand winning a seat on the UN Security Council and is calling on New Zealand to use the role to ensure the body lives up to its role of safeguarding global peace and security....
    Scoop politics | 16-10
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