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Open mike 03/05/2012

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 am, May 3rd, 2012 - 174 comments
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174 comments on “Open mike 03/05/2012”

  1. AAMC 1

    Some pictures from the Asset Sale march last Sat…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUVnXXv7e2U

    • Carol 1.1

      Thanks. Being right down the back of the march I didn’t see a lot of that stuff in the video. It’s a good sign that I couldn’t see it though – indicates it was a march of significant size.

    • ianmac 1.2

      My thanks too. Far too far away to attend.

      • AAMC 1.2.1

        Glad they’re of use in allowing some who couldn’t be there to feel part of it.

  2. james 111 2

    So if the Ice isnt melting like we were told it was, and the King Penguins are breeding like crazy when we were told they would all be extinct. What is the actual effect of Global Warming (oops climate change is there any at all?

    “Dr Allison said there was not any evidence of significant change in the mass of ice shelves in east Antarctica nor any indication that its ice cap was melting. “The only significant calvings in Antarctica have been in the west,” he said. And he cautioned that calvings of the magnitude seen recently in west Antarctica might not be unusual.

    “Ice shelves in general have episodic carvings and there can be large icebergs breaking off – I’m talking 100km or 200km long – every 10 or 20 or 50 years.”

    http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=13253

    • Kotahi Tane Huna 2.1

      James111’s myopia makes so much more sense in the context of recent findings regarding stupidity.

      But what is happening to the ice sheets? Rignot et al 2011.

    • rosy 2.2

      Jimmy, jimmy jimmy…

      global research? really?

      In an op-ed in the conservative Canadian news outlet, Western Standard, Chossudovsky was listed as one of Canada’s nuttiest professors “whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues.” Specifically, the op-ed criticized GlobalResearch.ca as “anti-U.S. and anti-globalization”and criticized Chussodovsky’s “wild-eyed conspiracy theories”.

      Full op-ed here

      • Bill 2.2.1

        Rosy, Global Reasearch does carry some good articles that are reproduced on other – how should I say – more reputable sites. And Chossudovsky has written some incisive stuff too. It’s all a matter of reading critically.

        Thing is, many people have odd or peculiar approaches on some subjects…approaches that shouldn’t be given much, if any, weight. But to dismiss someone entirely – and a whole lot of other people and opinions by extension or association as the Western Standard does (and other sources do), is a tried and tested tactic designed to shut down debate and by-pass or dismiss serious discussion/analysis.

        Simply put it goes along the lines of:

        1. Chossudovsky is a nutter.
        2. Everything he says is nuts.
        3. Anyone saying anything that Chossudovsky agrees with must be nuts.
        4. Anything they are saying is nuts too.

        edit. And the piece that james111 linked to originated in ‘the Australian’ and was written by Greg roberts who also, incidentally seems to be a ‘truther’. Why Global Research reproduced it? Dunno. Their business.

      • Bill 2.2.2

        Missed the damned edit window, but funnily enough every single link from that piece goes to ‘news.com.au’.

        • rosy 2.2.2.1

          All well and good, Bill. But critical thinking is an acquired skill. Best he links to the source imo.

          Really though, I’ve seen links to GR here before and not mentioned it given the world view of the commenters. But if you’ve seen James111 comments I reckon you might agree he needs to know that GR does not generally hold the same views as he does – i.e. John Key won’t be a fan of this anti-american, anti-global capital site ;-)

          btw I don’t think GR publishing the work of a truther is incidental.

    • Carol 2.3

      And yet, and yet…. maybe they need to look at the Antarctic from a slightly different angle?

      http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0426/Antarctic-ice-melting-from-below-reveals-satellite-video

      Data collected from a NASA ice-watching satellite reveal that the vast ice shelves extending from the shores of western Antarctica are being eaten away from underneath by ocean currents, which have been growing warmer even faster than the air above.
      [...]
      Most of the melting ice shelves are located in west Antarctica, where the flow of inland glaciers to the sea has also been accelerating — an effect that can be compounded by thinning ice shelves which, when grounded to the offshore seabed, serve as dams to hold glaciers back.

      Melting of ice by ocean currents can occur even when air temperature remains cold, maintaining a steady process of ice loss — and eventually increased sea level rise.
      [...]
      The study also found that Antarctica’s winds are shifting in response to climate change.

    • joe90 2.4

      The last refuge, clouds will save us.

  3. muzza 3

    While my interlocutors were quite open about the details of the visit, they didn’t want to discuss the identity of the “important man” who had asked them to host Bin Laden. They were also reluctant to share information on who else was in the entourage.

    Another facinating exaample of how the media now control perspective. This piece of fiction from the hailed BBC.

    Not a single word to validate the “story”, not a shred to validation for the writing, just a bare faced attempt to sell the narrative. even the title reads like a book title – “The Tiger who came to tea”

    Meanwhile Obama uses his “victory” as a key election campaign tool. oh how very predictable, and callow

    Most if not all of the Seal Team 6 are now dead of course so, those who carried out the raid can never speak out, but this is familiar territory, just like Pat Tillman and others, dead soldiers can’t tell tales.

    I guess media no longer need to investigative journailism, not when the average eperson just want to absorb lies and fiction in convenient soundbites….Yup, this story is just another link in the farcical chain of the past 12 years or so!

    • Kotahi Tane Huna 3.1

      There’s an alternative explanation that. painful as it may be, we have to consider: you could just be misinformed. Or delusional. Or both. I’m picking both.

      • muzza 3.1.1

        Hey OAB, missed your insults the past short while….hope all is well bro!

        The Voice has his sparring partner back….check your info on that seal team, mate there were deaths at the scene, and very well covered up, well not so much as it turn out.

        Nah Ill take the first hand conversation with a mate of mine who served in Iraq and Afghanistan with the US forces, who tells me, they were told that OBL was dead around 2001, over anything I read via someone who has never served in a war every single time..That includes the two of you veterans both I’m quite sure!

        • Te Reo Putake 3.1.1.1

          Oh dear, Muzza. I was expecting a bit more vigorous response than that. But I guess without any facts to go on, your invisible friend is a good option.

          • muzza 3.1.1.1.1

            Why would I need to vigorously respond to that Voice?

            You seem to think that a casual dismissal of people I know, their experiences and the like are the work of fiction is clever, so why would I waste my time vigorously defending such an arrogant mindset, as to tell someone who they do, or do not know…

            Edit – An on que the other mind reader OAB, who knows all about peoples lifes experiences, job experiences and personal contacts, chimes in with yet more masterful musings! -

        • Kotahi Tane Huna 3.1.1.2

          I can’t imagine a more reliable source than a soldier who heard something while on active service. And then I woke up.

          • muzza 3.1.1.2.1

            Thats right bloke, people who have served actively, will have been privy to details that the rest of us won’t be, well spotted.

            Unlike yourself, they do not have to dream it, due to the fact they have lived it!

            • Kotahi Tane Huna 3.1.1.2.1.1

              Sorry, I was teasing. Soldiers’ gossip is a by-word for unreliable.

              • muzza

                “Sorry, I was teasing. Soldiers’ gossip is a by-word for unreliable”

                — Coming from someone who has never served, that is quite a stunning admission of complete and utter disrespect!

                Interested to know what sources of information around the subject of war, and in particular the OBL “killing” you might hold up as , acceptable to your all knowing ego? Given that you have never served! Are you able to accept there are people out there who have experienced, and thus know more than yourself bro? I’m not talking about me either here…

                • Kotahi Tane Huna

                  Poor Muzza, always playing catch up. The earliest reference I can find to the unreliability of soldiers’ gossip is in le Carré’s Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy but I am sure I have read it expressed as an idiom by one of the German authors – probably a Mann.

                  Then there’s Sun Tzu – the art of war is deception.

                  How funny you are, a man bereft of evidence, for whom all contradictory sources are bogus.

                  • muzza

                    Just keep consoling youself that you know more than anyone else Bloke, its not a good look, but you don’t really care about such triva, as active soldiers first hand experiences, nor want to accept that some people, actually have these contacts!

                    What a terribly sheltered, uninteresting life you must have lead to think the way you do, and so easily pour scorn on others. Still its a NZ trait, especially those who have never had experiences outside this island nation!

                    Keep reading your books, and pretending you are on top of it all while ridiculing others first hand , real life experience!

                    • Te Reo Putake

                      ” … but you don’t really care about such triva, as active soldiers first hand experiences, …”
                       
                      But your invisible mate didn’t have a first hand experience. You said someone told him Bin Laden was dead, remember?

                    • Kotahi Tane Huna

                      Earth to Muzza: hearsay ≠ experience.

                      I note your “mate” is now one of your “contacts”. Self-aggrandising much?

                      Clearly you lack the imaginative capability necessary to understand exactly why soldiers’ gossip is a by-word for unreliability, not to mention the curiosity to try and understand the point once made.

                      As for your pitiful assertions, what do they say about me? Nothing – quite apart from the fact that you couldn’t be more wrong at every point, you are projecting wildly, attacking the messenger rather than attempting to cope with the argument.

                      I will continue to pour scorn on your “opinions”, so long as they are fact free and utterly delusional. I have no doubt that I am ignorant of various things of which you are not, but I can still spot bullshit a mile away – perhaps that is what comes of having spent over twenty years abroad.

                    • muzza

                      Earth to Muzza: hearsay ≠ experience.

                      —Yes thats right, but my point has only ever been, that I will take the information given by my friend who has served in both Iraq & Afghanistan, for the US forces. I form my own opinions, you care free to do the same.

                      “I note your “mate” is now one of your “contacts”. Self-aggrandising much?”

                      —-Its just use of a word, he is a mate, notice the how I was writing and the context of the word. Nice projection and diversion though, not transparent at all!

                      “Clearly you lack the imaginative capability necessary to understand exactly why soldiers’ gossip is a by-word for unreliability, not to mention the curiosity to try and understand the point once made. ”

                      —Actually no I got your point, however you are trying to tell me that my mate does not exist, and that he talks fantasy, as some defence to your argument that you do not accept, I have such friends or that his “imaginery” opinions from his time in the wars are BS. Really are you kidding!

                      “As for your pitiful assertions, what do they say about me? Nothing – quite apart from the fact that you couldn’t be more wrong at every point, you are projecting wildly, attacking the messenger rather than attempting to cope with the argument. ”

                      —No your own words say more than enough about you, and flat out accusing someone of lies, about who or what they know, is more than enough self portrait!

                      “I will continue to pour scorn on your “opinions”, so long as they are fact free and utterly delusional. I have no doubt that I am ignorant of various things of which you are not, but I can still spot bullshit a mile away – perhaps that is what comes of having spent over twenty years abroad.”

                      —So to summise, you flat out deny the existence of MY friend who served in the wars, and regard his opinions as invalid, lies or whatever, should you actually believe he exists? Do you see the problem with your 20 years away and claiming to be able to spot BS?
                      If your 20 years abroad is shown up in your words here I suggest you head away again until you can see the BS inside yourself…I mean what sort of individual, having never met me, would claim that my friends dont exist, thus their opinions are therefore invalid rumours, from my made up friend!

                      You can’t see the problem with you can you, nor accept that my views are just that. Your massive ego simply can’t accept it!

                      Voice – Yes of course thats what he heard while serving his country. I’m happy to accept that information, not as gospal, but when aggregated to other readins and info, is used to form my opinions. So if taking information from people who were there, albeit yes that what ‘he heard” while serving, is not ok by you, thats fine, and your prerogative, you are free to believe what ever you like!

                    • Kotahi Tane Huna

                      Muzza, sorry to burst your bubble, but Te Reo Putake questions the existence of your mate, not I. You were saying?

                    • muzza

                      “Muzza, sorry to burst your bubble, but Te Reo Putake questions the existence of your mate, not I. You were saying?”

                      Actually you said:

                      “How funny you are, a man bereft of evidence, for whom all contradictory sources are bogus”

                      —- Bereft of evidence, would be a non existant mate no?, because that is what we are talking about, in this specific context, and my inclination to accept what he has told me. That is what we have been talking about!

                    • Kotahi Tane Huna

                      First you say your mate was told this story by an un-named third party. Now you say it counts as “evidence”, but I’m going to have to burst that bubble too, because hearsay is no more evidence than it is experience.

                      So as you can see, I have made no statement regarding the existence or otherwise of your mate.

                  • muzza

                    “First you say your mate was told this story by an un-named third party. Now you say it counts as “evidence”, but I’m going to have to burst that bubble too, because hearsay is no more evidence than it is experience.”

                    — No, what I said first was, I would take the first hand experiences of my friend who served in the wars, others then tried to tell me my mate did not exist and that as a soldier his information was unreliable, thats all it was Bloke. Again I have said nothing more than I accept that information I received from him first hand, during a face to face meeting with my mate a few weeks after the alledged “OBL Killing” last year. So yes it counts as first hand evidence to me, which I use to form opinions. You may not like it, or agree, thats fine, we are each entitled to our own opinions, however we form them!
                    Reading articles written by people who did not serve, who represent agendas from government/corporates, are no less hearsay, than you claim my friends information to be. The difference for me, is that I have direct contact to him, he had direct contact to the wars, how he came into information he formed opinions on, is not something I have brought into this discussion!

                    “So as you can see, I have made no statement regarding the existence or otherwise of your mate.”

                    —Nice climbdown!

                    • Kotahi Tane Huna

                      “Climbdown”? Piss off Noddy, I can’t climb down from a position I never held in the first place, and I’m not going to make allowances for your comprehension deficit.

    • Te Reo Putake 3.2

      “Most if not all of the Seal Team 6 are now dead of course so, those who carried out the raid can never speak out, …”
       
      Er, no, Muzza. The team that took out Bin Laden are still with us, though some of their comrades in a different section of the group were killed when a helicopter was shot down in Afghanistan a few months later.

      • Kotahi Tane Huna 3.2.1

        I say, that’s a bit unsporting, referencing reality like that. How can the narrative be maintained if you go insisting on boring facts?

    • locus 3.3

      Muzza – did you notice that the bbc article was in the magazine section? And that it’s a tale about something that may have happened back in 2010? It’s an entertaining wee story which on reflection, may well hold some weight given that we now know where Osama was hiding out – and that it’s unlikely he could have stayed there without the knowledge and tacit support of some in the Pakistan military.

      The other story you’ve linked to is a report by the Washington Times. Note that The Washington Times was established “to combat communism and be a conservative alternative to the liberal bias of The Washington Post”. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times#Political_leanings

      So this Republican newpaper reports on an advert sponsored by an extremely right wing Republican group that has a track record of playing dirty to bring down Democrats. And you really think that it’s painting a truthful picture about Obama, that they haven’t cut and pasted what they want – and out of context – in an attempt to smear?

      As for “investigative journalism”, I suggest you steer away from the likes of the Washington Times and read up on how this nasty little ad was put together http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/05/swift-boating-obama-has-begun/51811/

      • muzza 3.3.1

        @Locus “Muzza – did you notice that the bbc article was in the magazine section? And that it’s a tale about something that may have happened back in 2010? It’s an entertaining wee story which on reflection, may well hold some weight given that we now know where Osama was hiding out – and that it’s unlikely he could have stayed there without the knowledge and tacit support of some in the Pakistan military”

        — I think you just nicely proved my point about narratives Locus, and the controlling of them. It has nothing to do with the fact it was in the magazine section, or a it being an entertaining wee story as you put it. Thanks for the info on the washpost, which I am aware of the partisan nature of what passes for news media in the USA, and no its not where one would look for investigative journalism, but an example of the dros which people absorb, which is the point!
        Ill check out your link, cheers

        • Vicky32 3.3.1.1

          It’s an entertaining wee story which on reflection, may well hold some weight given that we now know where Osama was hiding out – and that it’s unlikely he could have stayed there without the knowledge and tacit support of some in the Pakistan military”

          So, may we assume that Pakistan is the next target? That’s what I take from that ‘entertaining wee story’. Good grief, Locus, gullible much? :)

  4. With President Obama’s visit to Afghanistan, talk of us eventually exiting our forces from there, and someone I know having just returned from duty there, I’ve remembered a cartoon from a decade ago – see Rubble of Afghanistan.

    While the rubble be any different in a few years, once the occupation has ended?

  5. ad 5

    God this is just a fun time to watch politics.

    Loved hearing Goff go at it this morning on National Radio about the MFAT cuts. When asked whether leaking by public servants is OK, he said: “Loyalty is a two edged sword. If you treat your staff well, as an employer you’ll be fine. But if you make their jobs insecure and sell them out, don’t expect loyalty back.” I just wish we’d had THAT politician on the attack for the precvious three years.

    Great fun seeing Banks slow-roast. He deserves it for being Mayor and selling most of Auckland’s public housing stock away. No wonder we have a massive shortage of rental properties in Auckland and skyrocketing rents. The media roasting he will get when the Police report comes out will be just a foretaste of his roasting in hell. When he dies, I will be there to tramp the dirt down.

    Iv’e got a question about Mallard: is he the Richard Loe of the Left – the necessary evil. Or is he just too costly in penalties for the team? Offloading to Shearer with a really bad ball like that was really ouch, as was the simply wrong comments about Banks and the Hong Kong accommodation. But is there anyone else in Labour who can make hard hits?

  6. For the day’s entertainment people should have a look at the Trade (Safeguard Measures) Bill debate from last night. Banks was in the chair and it was a very uncomfortable place to be. Labour continuously mocked him. I am no fan of Mallard but his evisceration of Banks was hilarious. The video is at http://inthehouse.co.nz/node/12548.

    • It made a farce of “debate” in Parliament. That’s the sort of thing that puts a lot of people off having any interest in politics.

      Did it contribute anything to running the country or good democratic process?

      The same people that praise childish MP behaviour then grizzle about the million people that didn’t vote for their own party.

      • mickysavage 6.1.1

        The farce Petey is that Banks is still in Parliament AND still a minister.  The situation is that ludicrous what else can Labour do but point this out?

        National should be ashamed of having to rely on the support of such a hopelessly compromised party.  And United Follicles should be ashamed for supporting such a rabble. 

        • Pete George 6.1.1.1

          what else can Labour do but point this out?

          They could act like sensible MPs who look capable of running a country, that would be good for a start. Instead they look worse than Banks, otherwise it has achieved nothing.

          If you don’t get the relationship between ridiculous disrespective behaviour in parliament and people not bothering to vote for your party you’re dumber than a bar and weights.

          • felix 6.1.1.1.1

            The “disrespective behaviour in parliament” was putting the utterly disgraced, totally out of credibility Banks in the chair to shepherd the bill and expecting the other 120 MPs to pretend it wasn’t happening.

            • Pete George 6.1.1.1.1.1

              I thought that was odd and unwise. But there’s still rules of the house to follow.

              If I was an MP and felt strongly about it I think I’d have walked out, and encouraged as many others as possible to do the same.

              • Why, because Trevor was being mean to Banksie?

                • You haven’t worked out the relationship between level of the Mallard method and the diminishing vote yet?

                  I don’t expect an answer, nor any lightbulbs.

                  • So tell me Petey what is the reason for UF’s outstanding success in the polls?

                    • You’re trying to divert again Greg. Your usual head in sand.

                    • Petey the one person in the country trying to defend Johndotbanks despite a plethora of dodgy behaviour to complain about and the one person complaining because Mallard is being mean.
                       
                      And the mastermind of a 0.2% campaign criticising a party at 35%.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      At least Petey occasionally says, half heartedly, that he thinks “Banks should go” before launching into another vigorous defence and deflection on his behalf.

                    • a) I’m not trying to defend Banks
                      b) I played a very minor part in the election
                      c) UF got 3 times what you’ve claimed
                      d) Labour got 27% wasn’t it?

                      As you keep trying to defend crap behaviour in Parliament and dirty party politics. If only a million people understood your policies, eh.

                    • vto

                      Pete, is this like your uppityness yesterday over a war memorial protest which you later admitted to having done yourself in other days?

                    • Te Reo Putake

                      Some small corrections to Pete’s mea culpa:
                       
                      a) I’m not very good at defending Banks
                       
                      b) I drove United Future’s vote down in Dunedin North
                       
                      c) I think getting .06% of the party vote is great, especially given how rubbish we are
                       
                      d) I really, really hate Labour, but I’m not a Tory, honest.

                    • vto – I didn’t admit to a war memorial protest, I organised a local memorial event that had appropriate approvals, and similar was done on 60 other places. Quite different to a political protest.

                    • Te Reo Putake

                      You don’t think child abuse is a political issue, Pete? I seem to recall it was when the law was changed to give children more protection from family violence a few years back. It was in all the papers, as I recall.

                    • In the context of ther NARK memorials it was not political. It was for remembrance of childen killed – some of the memorial was quite touching and emotional in Dunedin. People from three parties were present (as far as I know) but there was nothing political about it, there was collective respect and remembrance.

                    • McFlock

                      Another irregular verb created by petey:
                         
                      I am present at a moment of collective respect and remembrance.
                      You politicise a solemn memorial..
                      They desecrate a sacred site. 

          • OneTrack 6.1.1.1.2

            I don’t think they are capable of acting like sensible MPs. They are more focused on taking a scalp than being an effective opposition (by questioning government policies) and/or presenting themselves as a potential government-in-waiting.

        • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.2

          The fact that you have to spell this out to PG demonstrates yet again how far from political reality he is.

          • Pete George 6.1.1.2.1

            Yeah, ramping up the political mongrels was the first step in sidelining Shearer’s grand ideals.

            I take it you’e oblivious to how many of the voters outside the bubbles are fed up with crap attack politics. It should have sunk in to some when Labour promoted Greens support at their own expense. I can see that continuing, Labour don’t get it, Norman does.

            • Colonial Viper 6.1.1.2.1.1

              i’m pleased with how fast you are distancing yourself from UF and sucking up to the Greens.

              I take it you’e oblivious to how many of the voters outside the bubbles are fed up with crap attack politics.

              Oh I know very well where the score is at mate.

              • Yep, all that needs to happen is for the nice media to explain the great Labour policies to everyone and there’s a million votes.

                • OneTrack

                  Labour is so shambolic that even left-wing media like the Herald can’t put a positive spin on it. No wonder the greens are laughing.

      • Pascal's bookie 6.1.2

        You know nothing Jon Snow.

      • Draco T Bastard 6.1.3

        It made a farce of “debate” in Parliament.

        In some ways I agree with Krugman

        Think about it: you approach what is, in the end, a somewhat technical subject in a format in which no data can be presented, in which there’s no opportunity to check facts (…). So people react based on their prejudices.

        Which we see quite often here on the Standard when we have each side of the debate claiming that their team won. We need facts and figures, not debates on opinion.

        • Colonial Viper 6.1.3.1

          Apart from the small difficulty that facts and figures don’t win elections, and what is more important than the facts and figures is the human values and principles used to interpret them.

          • Draco T Bastard 6.1.3.1.1

            People still need people to be in possession of the facts/figures so that they can then apply human values/ethics to interpreting them which can’t be true in a debate. That’s what Krugman is getting at.

    • deuto 6.2

      That debate was extremely funny – couldn’t turn it off. Normally I am anti going the person etc but any respect I may have had for Banks (eg from what he did in much younger years) has long since evaporated. OK, so this is not really what debate in the House should be like, but I would remind anyone who gets on their high horse on this occasion to just go back and watch (I think) the first few days of debate in February when the other side did exactly the same to Shearer in relation to his Finland remarks in various debates as well as Question Time – it was not just the Pie Man.

      • Chris 6.2.1

        We also got hooked into this debate. It was absolutely hilarious.Aided and abetted by totally incompetent speaker/chairman whatever.The first one, not the second.Forgot names!John Banks trying to do the BROODING HEATHCLIFFE look and looking like an anorexic praying mantis was beyond funny. It didn’t help that he was not ALL OVER the Bill as he stated and could debate any part of it at will but had to sitand wait for one the Nats to rustle up some notes for him which he read out. Poorly I might add. As for the Nats crying to the speaker every two minutes about the Opposition rowdiness and oh no! rudeness well they have very short memories.The attack on Lianne Dalziel was reprehensible and should have been dealt with by the speaker.She had the moral courage to deal with her error in judgement and stand down,something that the brooding cabbagecliffe is unwilling to do. But the best bit was when Cabbage Man got up to get the speaker/chairman to chastise the baying rabble rousing Oppos because they were making a mockery of the sanctity of the Parliamentary system.Pot, kettle,black.

    • ianmac 6.3

      Wicked Micky! Mr Banks might have been wiser to have kept quiet or maybe gone for a cup of tea even at a discounted rate.
      By the way, paying the full amount of a hotel stay on credit card depends on just what the full amount should be.

      • deuto 6.3.1

        There is a long debate going on about the HKG hotel rates etc under the Resignationwatch: oopsie post.

        IMO the hotel discount issue is a tangent from the real issues relating to the Banks situation – ie his honesty, credibility etc and suitability to be a Minister of the Crown – but also (probably more important in the long run) Key’s stance on the whole situation.

        I was fascinated by last night’s Campbell Live report which focussed on Key supposed lack of knowledge of Dotcom until the day before the police raid took place – and the report’s linking (I mean raising questions about this) to Dotcom of Key and other Ministers in addition to Banks by way of diagram as well as narrative. It raised many questions which were left unaswered as neither Key or any of the Ministers, or reps of the other organisations would front on Campbell Live. Well worth a watch – http://www.3news.co.nz/Who-knew-what-about-Kim-Dotcom/tabid/817/articleID/252734/Default.aspx

        I suspect that this is likely to feature on Campbell Live again soon.

        • Treetop 6.3.1.1

          Everything has to now be scripted by those in the diagram shown by Campbell (excluding Dotcom and Power). Say the wrong thing and by association you may let the cat out of the bag.

          It is now going to be about protecting Key’s integrity. I think that Key will standown Banks after the weekend because of :

          1. Public opinion.
          2. Banks could lose it and let the cat out of the bag e.g. a possible connection between Key and Dotcom, no matter if even by chance.
          3. A problem with not disclosing something that may have compromised Bank’s selection when an Act candidate.

          Banks is more than an acquanitance with Dotcom. Banks is just about having a tantrum over paying the hotel bill and he is more restrained when it comes to other allegations. For the first time Banks has mentioned defamation were Mallard to mention the hotel bill when not in the house. See if Banks threatens defamation about other allegations as well.

          • deuto 6.3.1.1.1

            I also very much doubt the Key will be “able to hold the line” much longer. Banks looked and sounded pretty shaky in the House last night, and it crossed my mind that the tactics being used were to wear him down to the point that he lost the plot. But the big question is how much of a hold does he have over Key – eg what does Banks know that could really damage Key?
            Just hope Mallard does not do something silly, as he has some times in the past.

            • Te Reo Putake 6.3.1.1.1.1

              “eg what does Banks know that could really damage Key?”
               
              Pretty obvious, really. One of the $25k ‘anonymous’ donations is from Key.

              • Treetop

                What you say is possible about a 25k donation. My pick would be that Key and Dotcom have had a private chat and Banks was present. Campbell Live last night raised the 10 million that Dotcom qualified for immigration entry into NZ.

                How many have made the immigration 10 million entry into NZ and is this not a National Government initiative?

                I have not read the transcript of the teapot tape, there could be a clue there as Key did not want the content of the teapot tape to be known. Also may be the teapot tape was edited, Key said this about the ACC Pullar tape.

              • bad12

                The ‘other’ smoking gun lies in the attempt by Banks while still the Mayoral candidate to influence Maurice Williamson over the Dotcom land purchase,

                The notion that ‘influence’ is a saleable item within a large section of the National Party is now well entrenched,

                The real questions here in relation to the menage a trois Banks/Dotcom/Williamson are to be found in the whereabouts of the nearly 1 million dollar Banks mayoral campaign fund,

                In plain English,did Maurice Williamson recieve any payment from within the Banks mayoral fund,

                My suspicion is that should the Serious Fraud office get off of its backside and earn its pay they might just find a direct link between the bank account holding the mayoral campaign fund of John Banks and an account(s) operated by Maurice Williamson,

                There is no corruption in NZ,only because those paid to look for it refuse to do so…

              • felix

                “One of the $25k ‘anonymous’ donations is from Key.”

                Just the one? Didn’t know those came as singles.

                Pretty sure the PM wouldn’t split up a donation to help Banks cook the books though, that’d be unethical.

                Won’t have his name on it though. Probably not Aldgate or Whitechappel either.

        • ianmac 6.3.1.2

          Oops Deuto. I Missed your post here. Wrote about it below. Can’t understand why there is not more outrage in MSM.
          js at 13.1.1 adds another important point about SIS.

          • deuto 6.3.1.2.1

            No problem, Ianmac. I also raised the Campbell Live report on the Resignationwatch post as well as I suspect that this whole business is going to get even more messy in the next few days. Pandora’s box is slowly opening.

        • mickysavage 6.3.1.3

          Wow Deuto

          I just watched this for the first time and I await with anticipation the next installment in this fascinating series.

          Johndotkey? 

          • felix 6.3.1.3.1

            Weird, isn’t it?

            I was also struck by the revelation that Helensville constituents can’t take local issues to their local MP.

            How does that work for them?

          • deuto 6.3.1.3.2

            So do I, MS – await the next installment, that is.

            Last night’s Campbell Live was in some ways a “teaser”. So I was a bit disappointed tonight when I tuned in. (Hardly ever watch TV these days). But interesting that tonight, JC was not there. Perhaps he was in Coatsville? Lol. This is not going to go away.

            • mickysavage 6.3.1.3.2.1

              You can bet that Kimdotcom is really, really peeved that he was imprisoned and sold down the river after all of his magnificent generosity.  

              Could this be why the slithery one has been rabbiting on about Mike Williams visiting Kimmy whilst on remand? 

              • deuto

                Agreed – and why shouldn’t Dotcom be peeved? A strange fellow in some ways, but he really seems to have come here with a genuine intention of staying, giving to NZ etc. Haven’t followed his case closely, but my instincts suggest that the whole case against him is going to flop in terms of his being extradited etc. And yet again the NZ Police are going to be left with egg all over their faces. Not anti-police (worked in the justice sector) but amongst some (a small minority) there is a “strange” mentality that is rather disturbing to say the least.

              • vto

                Given Dot first dragged Cabbageman in by a donation teaser and that he has now written to Key to, in the same way, slowly drag him in by giving the media reasons to ask questions, I would have thought he has photos of him with one of his giant arms around Key at some occasion prior to the day before the raids, totally and completely contrary to what Key has said and filling in all the gaps in Campbell Live’s diagram.

                Dot is beavering away furiously.

                Pulling out all the stops to nail all those who shat on him before he gets dragged off to bananamerica.

                note – brilliant effort of Campbell live last night.

                • ianmac

                  I will drop a line to John Campbell. What happened after the program?

                  • felix

                    Can you please ask John to stop pretending his wall is a giant iPad with sound effects? It’s naff as hell.

                    Apart from that, great work.

                  • Aye and what happened tonight?  My expectations were peaking …

                    • Anne

                      Maybe Campbell had a long standing engagement or… maybe he is involved in some urgent investigative journalism somewhere in the Helensville electorate?

                  • ianmac

                    Have emailed to find out what happened. (Nxt minit?) Last time I wrote was re a programmed item on Rodney Hide that didn’t play on Campbell Live. Two days later Rodney was rolled. John did reply that time within 24 hours. Will let you know.

    • John72 6.4

      50 years ago I was taught by people from 4 different organisations “Lead by Example”.
      They preached this standard and demonstrated it. They were good leaders. Would it be reasonable to expect a standard like that from our politicians?
      Our politicians sought the position. They constantly seek admiration. They are lucky to be there. They are not doing us a favour. We are not priviledged to have them. They constantly have to justify their existance. Why are they there? Are they there to serve us or earn a large income. They do not need $500,000 (+ expenses). The only justification for that sort of money is “some else is getting more”. So many seem to have lost the plot. They are supposed to be there to serve the country. They wet their napkins, just like every one else, and will die just like everone else. If they really cared about you and me they would “Lead by Example”. Parliment has lost it’s credibility.

      • Uturn 6.4.1

        Consider it a reflection of the values of your neighbours: someone voted them in. No one in NZ politics looks at things without the various dark glasses of capitalism stapled to their heads. Any flavour you like, as long as it’s capitalist.

        • John72 6.4.1.1

          Perhaps this is why so many people did not vote in the last election. Was it just apathy?

          • Uturn 6.4.1.1.1

            Dunno why, nobody knows why, definitively. But not voting is a good thing, compared to setting up opposition to an idea you don’t like. When that happens, the idea you oppose defines the terms; you become reactionary within a paradigm. Bit like Unions: great idea, in the short term, as part of a wider strategy for societal change. But once you get unions perpetually operating within a capitalist environment, because the members accept capitalism as a natural law and vote in people to maintain that view, the force for change stalls and gets twisted into contradictory and counter productive forms. You get fantastic working conditions… within an unsustainable system based on profit accumulation.

            Not voting at least steps out of the co-dependant relationship. Apathy would be a poor motivation, because there is no impetus for the non-voting to find out what they should do next – a gross lack of strategy – and things could get chaotic. But at least they accidently step out of the silly cycle that screws them, buying some time for a chance at a wider perspective. Going by the current bunch on offer, it would be encouraging to see non-voters reach 40% next election – the system needs to collapse under the weight of it’s own self interest. Just the other day, David Cunliffe was redefining Socialism to fit a capitalist paradigm. No marks out of ten. Good for his career, bad for NZ.

        • Bored 6.4.1.2

          Have to agree that the dark glasses only come in capitalist shades. i really love it when things like Keynesian theory get described as socialist, and environmentalism gets tagged left wing. The propaganda is winning hands down, laughed watching Keiser this morning that more Americans (just) believe organised labour is responsible for the recent crash, than those who think the banks are responsible. All power to blind faith.

          • Uturn 6.4.1.2.1

            The beginning of David Cunliffe’s speech April 29th at New Lynn:

            “The Invisible Hand

            The Labour Party was traditionally a left-wing party. Before we debate the future of the Labour Party, we should define what the terms left and right-wing mean.

            Left-wing generally means community ownership and or control and/or responsibility.

            Right wing means individual ownership and/or control and/or responsibility. By modern standards, even the National party would have been a left-wing party until the 1990s. That’s because most New Zealanders accepted the idea that the government has not just a right, but also a duty to be there for them…”

            No, no, and no. Not in theory, not even “close enough”. This is a description of bourgeois socialism: socialism permanently stalled within capitialist parameters. It is not the Left at all. And as for National being “socialist” prior the 90’s: only if you think that the violently enforced stability of fuedalism was a good social model to try to recreate; and because the word social is the larger part of the word socialism.

            People will swallow it though. All he has to do is keep repeating this crap and we can look forward to the next generation of outraged oldies (my generation, the X slackers) who will wonder how, unlike the pious values of the boomers, we let our liberal values morph into ratbag offspring “ruining everything” and will attest that because we opposed everything within a reactionary paradigm, we are blameless. Someone let the neo-liberal dogs out, doesn’t matter who, now. Me, my generation, we’re letting them run free and continue to do so. Can’t get them back in the cage by shouting at them.

            • John72 6.4.1.2.1.1

              I would be a hypocrite to say that I understand every thing that was written, especially when I can not find some words in the Oxford Dictionary. However, no one seems to have answered the question “Would it be reasonable to expect a standard like that from our politicians?” Would it be reasonable to expect our politicians to Lead By Example. Who is going to set some moral standards for our youth. Is Corination Street a role model? No one is perfect but we must try. We either improve or slip back, we never remain static.

  7. ropata 7

    Gareth Morgan –

    House prices a cancer for the economy
    It is over-investment in housing and the lending largesse that underpinned the orgy of excess that led to the sub-prime crisis and widespread recession in the developed world… Seldom before have we seen a market get so distorted by lending and tax largesse that it has plunged whole economies into despair.
    The lending distortion sponsored by the Reserve Bank … and the tax break increases the effective return so of course compared to other investments this will make housing a more attractive alternative. So lubricated with the credit availability we all pile into the asset in unison and drive up its price.
    The point is of course though that this is not a demand that’s driven in any way by economic fundamentals such as the demand for shelter – it’s purely speculative and totally contrived by the regulatory and taxation framework.

    Not hard to find examples :
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/property/news/article.cfm?c_id=8&objectid=10803131

    • vto 7.1

      People must still have a lot of faith in the world of debt and money – good luck to them.

      Though good to see that people still have faith in tangible investments. Morgan is not correct to paint it entirely as due to tax etc rules. At least if investment money is used to pay for something that actually exists it tends to remain in existence and can be put to some sort of use in the event of meltdown. Whereas, putting investment money into paper – well, it’s just paper – burn baby burn.

      Oh, and this article caught my eye about foreign buyers driving up the cost of housing. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10803130 It is all happening again. Happened when Cullen refused to acknowledge it and now watch as some gumpty minister trots out and says there is no effect and don’t worry because we will never sell the Fiordland National Park.

    • DH 7.2

      This article here makes the blood boil….

      Foreign buyers fuel house boom

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/property/news/article.cfm?c_id=8&objectid=10803130

      The venal feeding off the corpse of NZ.

      (Ps, sorry about posting link again, didn’t notice vto had linked it)

      • ropata 7.2.1

        The new Kiwi investment model, buy up property in Auckland, choke off the supply of new housing, and flog it for foreign cash. Works great for the already wealthy

        • DH 7.2.1.1

          Aye, and Labour are conspicuous by their absence. There has to be a complete halt put on foreign ownership of residential housing. It’s turning into a social disaster and if something isn’t done about it soon it will be too late to undo the damage. Kiwis paying rent to foreign landlords is almost the final insult really, how much lower can this country go.

  8. dd 8

    I am now almost %100 certain the pete george is actually trying to ruin united futures reputation.

    Your doing a really good job at it Pete but I think it’s somewhat unrequired given that the head Pete has already removed any respect the party had by backing the selling on NZ.

  9. weka 9

    I just got a replacement Visa card (from the National Bank) as mine had reached its expiry date. It’s got a chip in and needs me to set up a PIN (I’ve never had a chipped credit card before). This also means that my credit card is by default set to allow me to withdraw cash from an ATM. I’ve always chosen to not have this feature and imagine that for many low income people it will be problematic.

    The National Bank tells me that the chip technology makes it impossible for them to disable the cash withdrawal feature, despite the fact that they can disable this for various accounts on my EFTPOS card. Does anyone know if that is true, or if the banks are simply choosing to have the feature as compulsory?

    • ianmac 9.1

      It would be daft to get cash for credit card withdrawl as interest is charged from that moment, unless the card has cash already loaded on. You are quite right to avoid that cash trap otherwise. The chip does give further protection they say. My BNZ one will throw up a comment that I had put on which bogus shopping online will not be able to replicate. I guess being able to have a pin on it allows you to check balances etc at a money machine. And when I leave the country I let the bank know where to, in case my card is stolen and on re entry to NZ I just check my balance by pin and this lets the bank know and that no further transactions should happen overseas. And so on. (I only book online with credit card, when I have the money to pay straight away by internet banking.)

    • Draco T Bastard 9.2

      Does anyone know if that is true, or if the banks are simply choosing to have the feature as compulsory?

      As such a feature would best be implemented at the account level and not the card level it’s obvious that the bank(s) is making it compulsory.

  10. Carol 10

    Unemployment is on the rise, but the percentage looking for work and the proportion of people in work also rose during the last quarter. There has been a rise in the amount of people in part time work, and people under-employed, while the amount in full time work dropped:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10803214

    The big losers are women, while men have been the winners in securing more work.

    Most of the growth in unemployment was among women, who had a jobless rate at 7.1 per cent, while jobs growth was primarily among men, with the employment rate rise half a percentage point to 70.2 per cent.

    It doesn’t say what the unemployment rate was previously for women…. or does this mean that there was a 7.1% rise in unemployment for women?

    Young people, Maori and Pacific people are also losing ground:

    Youth aged 15 to 24 not in employment, education or training (NEET) rose to 13.6 per cent in the quarter from 13.1 per cent in the December quarter.
    [...]
    The rate of unemployed Pacific people rose to a record-high 16 per cent from 13.8 per cent in December, while Maori unemployment rose to 13.9 per cent from 13.4 per cent.

    • New Zealand is not in the same dire situation as Spain or Ireland and yet this National led government is following the sort of austerity programmes that should only be applied if we were. We do have opportunities and choices but the opportunities are not being grabbed and the good choices are not being made!
      http://localbodies-bsprout.blogspot.co.nz/2012/05/unemployment-rise-result-of-failing.html

    • bad12 10.2

      The unemployment figures hide a real train wreck don’t they, 1000 a month more unemployed since December and that takes NO account of those who have fled the National Governments gross economic mismanagement for Australia,

      At best National can by the rise in those working part time claim to be ‘sharing’ the employment around,perhaps also claim to be giving people wages equivalent to that of Australia by driving 100s of thousands of them across the ditch to seek a better life,

      It does not get any better for National,as they make more cuts to State sector employment the employment in the wider community continues to shrink in an ugly little downward spiral,

      There will not be an ‘export lead’ recovery as Europe falters and imposes yet another round of Austerity measures to try and make the beans add up in their economies,

      Nationals planned ‘zero’ budget will simply lead to even more unemployment and the gaping 1 billion dollar hole in the Governments income from taxation will grow by another 100 million dollars or 2,

      Anyone who thinks its ‘by accident’ is easily fooled,since its election in 2008 the National Government has set out on a deliberate planned demolition of parts of the New Zealand economy,and,if anyone thinks that National are about to build schools and hospitals with the proceeds of the sale of the assets it is currently in the process of stealing and selling should take the ‘wake up’ pill now,

      As far as i can see,the monies from the first tranche of asset ripoff sales will ‘have to’ be used in terms of today’s bean-counting to plug the ever growing hole in the Governments income from taxation…

    • Vicky32 10.3

      The big losers are women, while men have been the winners in securing more work.

      No surprises there then! :(

  11. Te Reo Putake 11

    Unemployment surges under the inspired leadership of John Key. Paula Bennett is nowhere to be seen, as she is busy trying to think of a way to spin this news that doesn’t make her look like she should be joining the dole queue herself for gross incompetence.

    Edit: Carol beat me to it!

  12. ianmac 13

    I thought there would have been much comment on MSM over Campbell Live TV3 raising the issue last night of Key’s unknowingness about Dotcom. Not a mention anywhere that I can find.
    For those who want to visit it about 2 minutes in @
    http://ondemand.tv3.co.nz/Campbell-Live-Wednesday-May-2-2012/tabid/119/articleID/6374/MCat/73/Default.aspx

      • js 13.1.1

        Yes he’s obviously on to something. He didn’t even mention the SIS (or whatever it is called these days) who would have known about the impending raid well in advance and would have briefed the PM as the minister in charge.

        He was getting very annoyed that MPs were not fronting about these serious concerns – yet again.

        • ianmac 13.1.1.1

          You are so right JS about the PM being the Head of SIS. How could Key have not know? He might have misunderstood the question, or silent because of security, or something to hide? But Mr Key was pretty clear about his unknowingness. Weird. Wonder if there is a follow up tonight?

          National Radio this morning noted McCulley’s unavailability but by giving Goff full rein, McCulley had to front up. It works. The more that Ministers don’t front for interviews, the more that Opposition parties party.

  13. Sam Hill 14

    Unemployment figures out today.

    Stats NZ says:

    “The unemployment rate rose to 6.7 percent in the March 2012 quarter, Statistics New Zealand said today. This is up from a revised figure of 6.4 percent last quarter. The labour force grew by 18,000, with 9,000 more people employed as well as 9,000 more people unemployed in the March 2012 quarter.”

    I found completely different stats using their own data. Excuse me if I post some stats here. The figures with the + and – are the total going from north to south so you don’t have to add it yourselves.

    Unemployed

    Northland 8.3% to 8.7% (6,500 to 6,900) +400
    Auckland 6.7% to 7.9% (51,100 to 60,700) +10,000
    Waikato 6.3% to 8.6% (13,300 to 17,700) + 14,400
    Bay of Plenty 8.3% to 8.5% (10,600 to 11,200) +15,000
    Gisborne/Hawke’s Bay 7.0% to 8.5% (7,200 to 9,500) +17,300
    Taranaki 3.8% to 4.8% (2,300 to 2,900) +17,600
    Manawatu – Wanganui 6.2% to 8.9% (7,700 to 10,900) +20,800
    Wellington 7.2% – 6.1% (21,100 to 17,200) +16,900
    Tasman/Nelson/Marlborough/West Coast 4.9% to 5.9% (5,000 to 6,100) +18,000
    Canterbury 5.0% to 5.5% (16,400 to 18,800) +20,400
    Otago 4.8% to 5.2% (6,400 to 6,700) + 20,700
    Southland 5.1% to 4.2% (3,000 to 2,700) +20,400

    20,400 total added unemployed

    Employed

    Northland 58.5% to 58.7% (72,000 to 72,200) +200
    Auckland 64.1% to 63.7% (713,400 to 709,300) – 3,900
    Waikato 64.5% to 62.6% (197,100 to 189,000) -12,000
    Bay of Plenty 57.6% to 60.1% (118,000 to 120,400) – 9,600
    Gisborne/Hawke’s Bay 61.4% to 63.7% (95,600 to 101,700) -3,500
    Taranaki 66.1% to 65.8% (58,400 to 58,100) – 3,800
    Manawatu – Wanganui 63.3% to 61.6% (115,800 to 112,500) – 7,100
    Wellington 67.2% to 66.2% (273,400 to 265,200) – 15,300
    Tasman/Nelson/Marlborough/West Coast 65.6% to 64.1% (98,500 to 97,100) – 16,700
    Canterbury 64.6% to 65.2% (309,700 to 325,600) – 800
    Otago 69.1% to 66.7% (128,600 to 121,800) – 7,600
    Southland 71.0% to 72.6% (56,600 to 58,000) – 6,200

    6,200 total less employed

    Are these stats supposed to be accurate, across region, sex, age and ethnicity, or are they just guessing?

    Sorry if there is something I should know here. But I couldn’t help but see obvious differences in what their press release claimed and the reality in the statistics sheets.

    • bad12 14.1

      Ah numbers numbers and yet more numbers,possibly these are the figures without then subtracting the (supposed) dramatic rise in part time employment from the number of full time unemployed,

      Its smoke and mirrors stuff,if ya can’t directly lie to the people,fudge the figures and stats in such a way that it confuses them,

      The laugh is that if we added in the numbers of those who have fled to Australia we would be looking at a real horror story…

    • ianmac 14.2

      You have done a lot of work there Sam. Thanks. The discrepancies are often argued in Question time White is Black according to Key. Maybe depends on Household Survey or Welfare figures. Dunno.

      • Sam Hill 14.2.1

        I just called Stats NZ and had a lengthy conversation. Enthralling.

        I just found out these ARE the real stats, they’re not seasonally adjusted.

        Real registered unemployment in 7.1%, not 6.7%.

        • Vicky32 14.2.1.1

          Real registered unemployment in 7.1%, not 6.7%.

          Oh isn’t that just lovely!

        • deuto 14.2.1.2

          Sam, I would also like to thank you for your hard work in following up on this in your posts above. Keep up the good work.

        • mickysavage 14.2.1.3

          Aye good stuff Sam and keep it up.  This Government has made an art of abusing statistics for political advantage.

    • Jackal 14.3

      Stats highlight growing bigotry

      Gerry Brownlee claimed in the House of Representatives today that employment has grown by 9000… but Statistics NZ’s latest Household Labour Force Survey report (PDF) shows that employment grew because of an increase in part-time employment, while full-time employment actually decreased by 3,000 over the latest quarter. This means more dependance on supplemental welfare support.

      The other main statistical change is that unemployment for woman has grown dramatically as well as for pacific people. National’s policies are clearly adversely and disproportionately affecting people who are not white and male. This indicates a chauvinistic, racist and myopic policy direction, which is ultimately detrimental for New Zealand.

      • Carol 14.3.1

        This indicates a chauvinistic, racist and myopic policy direction, which is ultimately detrimental for New Zealand.
        Indeed.

      • Jackal 14.3.2

        Sorry! That’s meant to be Steven Joyce, not Gerry Brownlee who made those claims. I always get those two confused.

    • rosy 14.4

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  14. The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 15

    Watched the GC last night. Now wondering if we need to be worried about the “brain drain”.

  15. aerobubble 16

    Woman caught in cross fire in Australian Mall as two rival gang member pull out guns.

    Sword wielding and chain saw wielding men fight over noise nuisance!

    Well when you have a million people there is going to be a growth in extreme stories out of Sydney.

    • Colonial Viper 16.1

      Did you mean a million people when you spoke of Sydney, or 4.6 million people?

  16. Panelists on Backbenches last night were asked their view on Maryan Street’s proposed euthanasia legisaltion.

    National MP Maggie Barry said she hadn’t seen what would be in the bill yet but she would definitely oppose it, She cited her experience:
    National Party profile: Her extensive community work includes being Patron of Hospice NZ

    She said that hospices and good palliative care meant that euthanasia wasn’t necessary. She also claimed that pain was not experienced by a patient if cared for.

    I think she’s wrong. I’ve seen close up very good palliative care in a hospice situation. One problem was that pain relief was often reactive. And it didn’t prevent severe discomfort, nor did it avoid the loss of dignity my mother dreaded.

    As good as they are there’s things a hospice can’t deal with adequately.

    • Descendant Of Smith 17.1

      Yep killing old people off certainly solves the reactive pain relief problem.

      • prism 17.1.1

        Better is allowing old people to decide for themselves when they want to die.

  17. prism 18

    It was interesting to see an old cutting from The Nelson Mail of 28 November 2002 about the National government deciding on part foreign ownership of AirNZ. In this case the corporate was Qantas angling to spend $550 million on a 22.5% stake. The decision actually did not need Parliament’s approval and the Opposition were mounting campaigns to scrap it with pressure from the public.

    In the item Peter Dunne said that Mr John Anderson, Oz Deputy Prime Minister had remarked, ‘that Qantas would always have the upper hand, as one Qantas director on Air NZ’s board would have to sign off every major decision’
    Mr Dunne said it was now clear that the proposed Qantas “takeover” was not designed to benefit the NZ consumer or the tazpayer-owned AirNZ. But AirNZ rejected Mr Dunne’s claims saying that Qantas would have at the most two votes..

    And so it goes on, Peter Dunne should be looking seriously today at proposals of sales to foreigners which will disadvantage us in the medium and long run. In the Qantas deal we had to remember that Aussies are for themselves first and foremost, they are allies but not always ones beneficial to us. We can’t go hawking everything important to us as we have done in the past, such as in dropping our tariffs to near nil to keep dairy access. We shouldn’t give up anything till forced to, and then the deal must be as good as we can make it. They’re hard butters out there.

  18. newsense 19

    Who in the Greens would you like to see as Ministers?

    I wouldn’t mind Norman (perhaps, probably, hmm, yeh ok), and so far Genter definitely!

    Not sure about anyone else at this stage…don’t know them well enough or they haven’t made Gerry Brownlee look like an blustering incompetent bully recently…

    Post your line ups here!

    • felix 19.1

      Definitely Turei, probably Hague, and after a bit more experience Walker.

      Off the top of the head.

    • ad 19.2

      I am sure this will put the squirts up the Labour caucus, but at say 15% I think they could expect:

      – R. Norman: Deputy PM, Minister of Agriculture and Forestry, Minister of Fisheries
      – J Genter: Minister of Transport, Min Auckland issues, Minister of Local Government
      – T Turei Minister of Maori Affairs, Min Treaty Negs, Assoc. Minister Health
      – Hague Minister of Health
      – D Clendon Assoc. Minister of Economic Devleopment
      – Hughes Assoc Minister of Transport
      – H. Walker Assoc. Minister Foreign Affairs and Trade
      – Graham Minister of Foreign Affairs and Trade, Minister of Justice, Attourney General

      I am sure that leaves enough for the other parties.

      • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 19.2.1

        Should put the squits up everyone.

      • millsy 19.2.2

        I doubt that they would get those plum roles, but they would have a lot more hope of getting something decent out Shearer/anyone, than Clark.

  19. Carol 20

    Ha! Jonkey Todd, the Demon Butcher of Cheat Street! And he likes freeloading off the Queen, getting free food at her gigs.

    And beware TV3 ((or is it John Campbell specifically?), he doesn’t like been treated too critically!

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10803329

    Under pressure for quick answers from a group of 10-year-olds today, John Key revealed that his dream job is as a butcher, he prefers TV1 to TV3, and that “a lot of free food” is a major perk of being Prime Minister.

    [...] or an airline pilot.

    [..] he chose TVNZ over TV3 with an explanation that TV3 had treated him badly the previous night.

    So, did John Campbell really have JonKey’s feet to the fire with his questions last night about his lack of knowledge about Dotcom?

    And was it the airline pilot wannabee that flew the copter to the mansion? (Not likely, of course).

    • ianmac 20.1

      No John Campbell in person. No mention anywhere. What’s happened?

      • deuto 20.1.1

        I was watching in anticipation also – bit of discussion on this also up under 6.3.1. Seems like our paths have crossed today a bit like ships passing in the night. Cheers.

      • Carol 20.1.2

        But they still had a go at JK’s cycleway (“for Key and Country”)…. destroying the historical heritage and endangering lives for JK’s big idea.

  20. Carol 21

    Depressing:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10803263

    First-time and retail sharemarket investors are being targeted by a new government website set up to provide basic information about the process of partially privatising up to four of its energy companies and to sell further shares in Air New Zealand.

    While deliberately bland, in order to comply with Securities Act restrictions on what owners can say about companies they propose to sell shares in, the website combines the political and economic rationales for the sale with information on sharemarket investing, and on each of the companies.

  21. felix 22

    Watching Backbenches from last night. I’m genuinely concerned that Maggie Barrie might have a serious learning disability.

    Twyford is funny.

    • I thought Twyford seemed like a nice guy trying to be funny but it didn’t work for me. Maybe that was because John Banks grates at the best of times, so already overworn mimicking of his inanities came across as stale.

      And Maggie Barry was very disappointing refusing to back a bill she hasn’t seen yet. She’s wrong, Even doing their best hospices and palliative care don’t prevent pain, severe discomfort and terrible loss of dignity.

      • felix 22.1.1

        True, he could drop the Banks stuff. Wallace’s impressions on the other hand…

        But yeah, Maggie. There were a couple of times where she was presented with simple unassailable facts – not opinions – and she just stuck to her script like they didn’t exist.

        I see Campbell Live picked up the euthanasia debate last night too btw.

        • bad12 22.1.1.1

          “”There is a point when succeeding generations deserve to be disencumbered of some unproductive burdens” unquote,

          Bill Hayden in 1995 as the Australian Governor General speaking to the Australian College of P,hysicians on the Proposed Northern Territory euthanasia law,

          • McFlock 22.1.1.1.1

            Yes, let’s judge the validity of issues based on the words and actions of an extreme few.

            • bad12 22.1.1.1.1.1

              Bill Hayden is in good company our own Slippery Prime Minister is also a strong supporter of euthanasia,

              Why wouldn’t they be tho,according to the ism everything we do from the time ‘they’ start educating us is done to serve ‘the market’ the neo-liberal capitalist utopia,

              Hell I must dig out that web-page that had the couple from England featured on it,so depressed and shamed by their unemployment they took a hike over to that Swiss clinic for a spot of assisted suicide…

              • McFlock

                Yeah, it’s nice that it’s beginning to occur to you that when you make an assertion of fact you should provide a link or citation.
                   
                 

              • rosy

                That man (Hayden) does not represent me, in the same way I hope murderers of doctors who perform abortions do not represent you.

                John Key also supported the repeal of s59, as did I. Both Helen Clark and Jim Bolger are republicans. Because people might find common ground on one topic does not mean they’re twins in their thinking. Much as I dislike Key, I doubt he’d share Hayden’s view.

                And yes, I remember well the story of the unemployed who took their own lives. The cause, not the means, is the absolute tragedy.

                • bad12

                  You say they don’t represent you,but,in effect they do,you like I have probably been opposed to the neo-liberal capitalist ism since Sir(spit)Roger Douglas shoved it down all our throats a couple of decades ago,

                  You along with numerous other may support euthanasia for various reasons(pain suffering dying with dignity etc)but I see in the support from the hierarchy of the neo-liberal ism for euthanasia a far more robust version of euthanasia and reasons of an entirely different nature (perhaps) for their support of such…

                  • McFlock

                    So your position is represented by people who murder doctors, therefore your anti-abortion stance is completely wrong in every possible iteration.
                     

                    • Vicky32

                      So your position is represented by people who murder doctors, therefore your anti-abortion stance is completely wrong in every possible iteration.

                      As he didn’t say that, your comment is just an attempt to discredit him. Shame on you!

                    • McFlock

                      If bad12 can say that the planned euthanasia bill in NZ is bad because of a single sentence said by an Australian G-G 15 or 20 years ago, then bad12’s position on abortion is bad because of more recent murders.

                      I have an urge to say something about casting stones…

                    • rosy

                      No Vicky32, Bad12 said Hayden’s view about popping off old people because they cost too much represents my view of having a right to decide my end of life choices (and other people should have that right as well).

                      The equivalent with the abortion debate is that someone who believes abortion is killing an unborn child is represented by a person who murders doctors because they perform abortions. You state that Bad12’s position was not stated as this, which is exactly what Mcflock and I were saying (if indeed that is Bad12’s position).

        • McFlock 22.1.1.2

          Haven’t seen much of the msm lately, but it seems to me that nats (getting their lead from the Obamacare tripe) will be wanting to scare older people with the “death panel” meme.
              
          But it might be too subtle for them to pick up competently ;)

  22. joe90 23

    For fellow bibliophiles, a fascinating article from 2008 about the preservation of the earliest known illustrated Christian manuscripts, the Ethiopian Garima Gospels.

  23. freedom 24

    banners made, next move, get to Wellington

    we will see all who can get there at Te Papa 10 am tomorrow

  24. Colonial Viper 25

    Who votes in America?

    http://www.takepart.com/article/2012/04/30/who-actually-votes-america-infographic

    Not poor people, not the unemployed, not the young.

  25. Shaz 26

    Counting chicks before the eggs are hatched.
    Govt has today launched the information on the share sales that will take place if the MOMA bill is passed.

    https://www.governmentshareoffers.govt.nz/

    Can you interpret the intent of the front page? It would appear to provide security from overseas people accessing the information but with additional restrictions on people from the US.
    You can check out and compare the investment options to repurchase resources you already own and sign up for newsletters to make this easier ;-0.

    The slippery ones will no doubt say that the hundreds of thousands who sign up for newsletters represents a good selection of the NZ population interested in investing. Halle bleeding lujah!

  26. ianmac 27

    I sometimes respond to the Avaaz website petitions when I agree with them. It puts up petitions about democracy, world ocean fishing, and so on. Tonight they sent this:

    Right now, the Avaaz website is under massive attack. An expert is telling us that an attack this large is likely coming from a government or large corporation, with massive, simultaneous and sophisticated assaults from across the world to take down our site.

    Wonder if it is the big powerful country getting control of the internet?

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  • TVNZ Outsourcing Pasifika and Maori Programmes
    I’ve always been a big fan of our state broadcaster and I’ve particularly liked their range of current events programmes. But after Friday’s announcement that TVNZ will be sacking up to 40 staff by contracting out the Pacific and Maori...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Labour urges iwi leaders to meet with National
    Labour’s Māori Caucus has called on iwi leaders and national Māori organisations to seek urgent meetings with the National Government to directly express their concerns about employment law changes which will harm Māori workers. In an open letter sent today...
    Labour | 29-10
  • ACC’s reputation needs fix, not glitz
    Restoring public trust and confidence in ACC will take a lot more than a new communications strategy or social media blitz, says Labour’s ACC spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway. “Under National, ACC has come to be perceived as insensitive, difficult to deal...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Lessons to be learned from police investigation
    The outcome of the so-called Roast Busters case should not put victims off reporting sexual crimes, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “This case has been mishandled from the start. Within days of police initially saying no charges had...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Anti-worker legislation is anti-Pacifica
    The Minister for Pacific Peoples, Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga, will go down in history as being part of a Government that harmed his own people through anti-worker legislation, says Labour’s Pacific Island Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “Pacific people are among...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Five-year tax holiday for overseas tax dodgers
    National has just gifted a five-year tax holiday for foreign companies dodging their tax payments, says Revenue spokesperson David Clark. “Todd McClay has pretended he is doing something about overseas companies dodging their tax duties by joining an international initiative...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Traffic Jam Tax must be given the red light
    Auckland Council’s proposed Traffic Jam Tax could cost some households thousands of dollars a year just to use roads they had already paid for with their taxes and must be rejected, says Labour’s transport and Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 29-10
  • National has chance to show leadership on limos
    The National Party has the opportunity to show leadership by transitioning our vehicle fleet towards renewable electricity when a new contract to supply Government limousines for VIPs goes to tender next month, the Green Party said today. "This is a...
    Greens | 29-10
  • The Māori Party can’t have it both ways over labour laws
    The Māori Party has to fess up over its voting record on the Employment Relations Amendment Bill, says Labour’s Māori Caucus.  “It’s simply not good enough to oppose the bill at the same time  as they helped speed up its progress through...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Equal pay and the aged care sector
    Today the High Court upheld the historic ruling by the Employment Court that our Equal Pay Act could be used to consider work of equal value cases; the government has been telling the UN and ILO that it could for...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Court case perfect opportunity for Government to improve gender pay gap
    If the Government wants to halt New Zealand’s slump in international rankings on the gender pay gap it should act on the court finding that women deserve equal wages, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Sue Moroney says. “The World Economic Forum’s...
    Labour | 28-10
  • All Auckland transport options should be considered
    All options for meeting Auckland's transport needs should be considered, including reprioritising the transport budget away from wasteful spending on motorways, the Green Party said today.Auckland mayor Len Brown is today releasing a transport report by the Independent Advisory Board,...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Another report highlights Govt failure on child poverty
    An international report measuring the impact of the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) on child poverty rates, showing children in New Zealand have done worse than children in other countries, is further proof the Government needs to urgently take additional steps...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Child poverty: No more wake-up calls
    A new report which shows the National Government has made no inroads whatsoever into child poverty should do more than just set alarm bells ringing, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “UNICEF’s  latest Innocenti Report Card highlights the fact...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Eugenie Sage speaks in the 2014 Address in Reply Debate
    I congratulate you, Assistant Speaker Mallard, as Assistant Speaker and look forward to your knowledge, your fairness, and your light touch in being a referee of proceedings in this House. I congratulate also the other Assistant Speaker, Lindsay Tisch; the...
    Greens | 28-10
  • James Shaw’s Maiden Speech
    Tena Koe, Mr Speaker. I would like to take this opportunity to speak a little of the past, the present and the future. The privilege to serve in this Parliament was given to me by all those who gave their...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Govt airs real views on public broadcasting
    An admission by the Government that it is happy to experiment with Pacific and Maori audiences shows just how weak its vision for public broadcasting in New Zealand is, Labour’s Broadcasting spokesperson Kris Faafoi says. “National today admitted it doesn’t...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Does Judith Collins have a get out of jail card?
    Former justice minister Judith Collins appears to have been gifted a get out of jail free card based on the Prime Minister’s answers in Parliament today, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “Judith Collins claimed in an Official Information...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Solid Energy decision delay sensible
    Today’s announcement by the Board of Solid Energy that it will delay making a final decision on re-entering the Pike River mine is a sensible move, Labour’s MP for  West Coast-Tasman Damien O’Connor says. “It has been clear for some...
    Labour | 28-10
  • New York Green Bank off to a $1B start
    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced late last week the New York Green Bank’s first NZD$1 billion tranche of green energy investments. The projects, which are difficult for the private sector to finance, are now possible by New York Green...
    Greens | 28-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Blockade the Budget
    The ‘Independent’ Police Conduct Authority’s report into the policing of student protests in 2012 is a whitewash The report released by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is a whitewash riddled with inaccuracies....
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • When National claim new anti worker laws provide ‘flexibility’ they mea...
    And so it comes to pass. The first law National ram through as part of their victory march are new anti worker laws they pretend will generate ‘flexibility’. The new law denigrate the unions ability to protect workers and provide...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • City Transport: A Taxing Matter
    This week the prospect of paying tolls on Auckland motorways became a hot topic. (See Mathew Dearnaley:Motorway tolling could hit some hard, NZ Herald, 30 Oct 2014.) As we might expect, the kneejerk response has been quite negative. But, as with...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Open Letter to Amy Adams: Please Reopen The Review Into Sexual Violence Cou...
    Ms Amy Adams, Justice and Courts Minister, Right now in this country it seems that although rape is illegal, it is not being prevented by the agents who uphold the law. It almost feels like rape is only illegal on paper,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: Does ‘No-Surprises’ Also Apply To TVNZ News?
    When you stand back and look at NZ media outlets, most of them have at least one or two people who attempt to hold the government to account: John Campbell on TV3, Guyon Espiner and others at Radio NZ, David...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Things That Make You Go Hmmmmmmm
    Every so often in politics, a public figure comes out with something so absurd and so outlandish … that it really does just make you go “Hmmmmmmmmmm”. We’re accustomed to this from certain quarters – by mid point through the...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Poverty & inequality don’t need protest marches – they need a riot:...
    The global level of inequality continues to skyrocket… Number of billionaires doubled since financial crisis The number of billionaires has doubled since the start of the financial crisis, according to a major new report from anti-poverty campaigners. According to Oxfam,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • If Key knows who Rawshark is…
    I’m sorry, what? John Key ‘given Rawshark’s name’The Prime Minister believes he knows who hacked Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater’s computer and produced the source material for Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics, according to a new edition of a recently published...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Child Poverty stats in NZ
    Child Poverty stats in NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Crimes Act + Police Investigation = WTF
    Just to frame the farce that is the Roastbuster’s investigation and conclusion – here are the parts of the Crime Act http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/whole.html#DLM329057  the Roastbusters are proven to have violated – that the police (and some suspects!) themselves acknowledge occurred: Crimes...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Publishing Journalists’ Home Addresses Is A Tactic Of The Right, Not The ...
    I think I’m starting to get rather annoyed with the conduct of some pro-MANA people over this ongoing Parliamentary Services crew complement issue. Yes, we get that there are legitimate issues to be raised with how some political reporters in...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Aucklanders caught between a tarseal-addicted government and a weak mayor
    Len Brown’s proposal for motorway tolls to reduce congestion and provide funding for better public transport is a weak response to a critical issue. The $12 billion dollar shortfall on transport funding he talks about is mainly for projected new...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • A Very Weird Story: Deconstructing Darren Aronofsky’s Noah.
    NOAH is a curious movie. Conceived as a biblical epic, it’s target audience was originally the millions of Americans who regard the Bible as God’s inerrant word. With the sin-filled works of Hollywood forbidden to these true-believers, Christian movie-makers have developed...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • You Can Get Away With Rape In New Zealand
    Jessie Hume with last years petition against rape     The police have sent a strong message today.  In fact they’ve been sending a strong message for a while; a message that our government supports. “You can literally get away...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Roast Buster case – no charges. In the immortal words of NWA…
    Roast Busters case: No prosecutions Police are to make an announcement this afternoon on Operation Clover, the investigation into the “Roast Busters” allegations. The Herald understands the victim has been told that the alleged offenders will not be prosecuted due...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Key’s flag change distraction to cost $26million!
    No. Way. Bid to change NZ flag to cost millions The cost of holding two referendums and consulting on a change of flag has been estimated to be just under $26 million. Look. We all appreciate that the sleepy hobbits...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Why NZ Herald’s Labour Party crocodile tears are so audacious
    The front page the NZ Herald would use if they thought they could get away with it No one can take the recent columns by NZ Herald seriously… John Armstrong: Shadow lingers on National John Roughan: Labour’s leadership vote matters...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • The beginning of the end of Cameron Slater?
    Slater postings on man bizarre, court told A businessman has changed his appearance and had to install extra security at his home after Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater posted his business and personal documents online, he says. Mr Slater has...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • We are a milk power republic and Fonterra our unelected senate
    Wow. Just wow… Deputy mayor says he’ll be sacked South Taranaki deputy mayor Alex Ballantyne says he expects to be sacked because he has spoken out about the impact gasses coming from dumped Fonterra dairy products have had on his...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: “…But *actually* this is about ethics in political-game jo...
    Yesterday, a piece of mine on the recent revelations about Hone Harawira employing several gentlemen either accused or convicted of sex offences was published on The Daily Blog. Predictably, given the fierce loyalty which Hone inspires in his party faithful and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Privilege cheque
    There was no race problem in my childhood. Living in central Wellington I was well-insulated from what was going on not so far away. This was the 60s and 70s, where the teachers enjoyed free love in the staff room...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • A brief word on Key’s claim that it will be raining carnage
    Isis will ‘rain carnage on the world’ – John Key Left unchecked Isis would “rain carnage on the world”, Prime Minister John Key says, but he has yet to make a decision on whether New Zealand troops will join a...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Meanwhile…
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    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • How does Andrew Little win Labour Leadership and unify the caucus?
    Audrey Young’s excellent column on how the Caucus vote  is shaping up shows how Andrew Little becomes the next leader of the Labour Party. She identifies the factions as the following… Andrew Little 6: Andrew Little, David Cunliffe, Iain Lees Galloway,...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Right of response to Curwen
    You have asked that Hone Harawira deserves to explain what happened, how would he explain when his next door neighbour is an alleged sex offender. What explanation can Hone offer he wasn’t involved, Hone had no idea this offending was...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: That Hella-Weird Feeling When You Defend Tova O’Brien
    Oh dear. Yesterday morning I blogged that Hone deserved a chance to explain what exactly had happened as applies his office’s Parliamentary Services crew complement – and, importantly, that we deserve to be able to judge him on the strength of...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Canadian Green MP warns against harsh anti-terror measures
    Canada’s Green Party has provided a welcome counterpoint to Prime Minister Harper’s call for tougher anti-terrorism laws in the wake of a soldier outside the Canadian Parliament. On October 22, while she was still locked in her parliamentary office, Green...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • When is an asset sale not an asset sale? When it robs from the poor and ste...
    National have turned state housing on its head. At no time during the 2014 election did the Key Government even hint that they were going to privatise 30% of the Housing NZ stock of state homes. Not once. Key even...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part To...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Rua) . Bill English comes clean on National’s intentions for HNZ privatisation . On 14 October, in a report on The Daily Blog, I wrote, In...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • The Questions Have Been Asked – They Deserve An Answer
    A few days ago, allegations that had been percolating for some time about Hone Harawira employing three either accused or convicted sex offenders on his Parliamentary pay-roll came to light. (one imprisoned before working for MANA; one who found himself convicted and...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • I have seen one future, and it is bleak
    . . Back in  March 2012, I wrote this story regarding a march to support striking workers at Ports of Auckland. It appears there was some prescience about some of my observations at the time… . | | 18 March...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • US air strike war Key wants us in has killed a civilian a day so far
      The US air strike war that John Key wants us to join has killed a civilian a day so far. From the Washington Post... The United States launched its first airstrikes on militants in Syria on Sept. 23, and has continued...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • The instant Jihad syndrome
    My favourite new term is ‘self-radicalised’ – it suggests the reasons for terrorism are totally divorced from the actions of the West. This need to suddenly ramp up terror laws because of lone wolf, self-radicalised Jihadists seems convenient and counter-productive....
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • We have nothing to fear from Ebola but fear itself
    I suspect most Americans perceive Ebola like this   I can’t work out if the fear being spread within the media about Ebola is deliberate or just ignorance. Yes Ebola is a terrible plague that kills a large percentage of...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – “Meritocracy? I wish.”
    I’d like to start by linking to a post I had published at another site in support of Nanaia Mahuta for the Labour Party leadership election.  She has a reasonable chance, given that she already has the endorsement of Te...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Chocolate milk shortage and creepy Santa? Let’s talk about real news
    Child poverty is still a scarily serious problem in this country and house prices are soaring through the roof to the point where it is simply impossible for the average New Zealander to buy a home. There is also little...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • It’s time to celebrate Kiwi schools and teachers
    Some would have you believe that New Zealand’s schools are in a state of collapse, that your children are not being educated well and that things are going to hell in a hand basket.  That there is no innovation, no...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Ideological Blitzkrieg – Privatization of state housing, more charter sch...
    Pundits in pundit land will tell you that this Government is boring, that Key is the great pragmatist and that it is his ability to create elegant solutions that keeps him the firm favourite in many Kiwi eyes. This ability...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • Hegemony rules but resistance is fertile
    The Prime Minister is a puppet. Not just our current Prime Minister, but given the forces of multinational globalisation, the role of any head of state, is less as independent actor, and more as a puppet of international trends and...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • An open Letter to Sir Bob Jones: demanding a ‘liveable wage’ is not “...
    How out of touch with reality is Sir Bob Jones? You know, that white dude who invested in privatised SOEs after the selling off of our assets in the eighties and made a ludicrous and disgusting amount of money and is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • My insecurity about the Security Council
    As I write this (on 24 October) it is international UN Day. Of course, you all knew that already, right? Well, the day celebrates the entry into force of the UN Charter in 1945. With the ratification of this founding...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Back in That House
    Parliament opened this week and I still find it a very odd place. Most of the people are reasonably courteous and friendly, but the rituals are archaic and the rules around issues like the swearing in oath are oppressive and...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Marae Investigates No More
    TVNZ yesterday announced the closure of their Māori and Pacific programmes department. That means they’ve chosen to stop making Fresh, Tagata Pasifika, Waka Huia and Marae Investigates to let independent producers get their hands on these lucrative contracts. This is...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • BLOGWATCH: An Un-Civil War in Labour, eh?
    Earlier today, my attention was directed to an entry that’s just recently appeared on the Slightly Left of Centre blog. It purports to contain the ‘inside word’ from a highly placed NZF source – which is funny, because I’m pretty sure...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Santanomics 101
    Santanomics could mean a number of things. It could be the study and practice of giving. Or it could mean the study and practice of rampant end-of-year commercialism. However, for me today it is the economics of erectingAuckland’s giant Santa...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • SkyCity boss misleads public over workers lost shifts
    SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison has defended the employment practices at his company in an “Opinion” piece entitled “Human Capital key to corporate success” in the NZ Herald on Thursday. A number of his claims are misleading, contain only partial truths...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Review: Perfect Place
    I went to a Perfect Place on Tuesday night, and what a delight it was. The marshmallows sweetly (and forcefully) handed out pre-show, set the tone for the next hour. Walking up the stairs at The Basement was a complete...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • 5AA Australia – NZ on UN Security Council + Dirty Politics Lingers On
    5AA Australia: Selwyn Manning and Peter Godfrey deliver their weekly bulletin Across The Ditch. General round up of over night talkback issues: Thongs, Jandals and flip-flops… ISSUE 1: New Zealand has been successful in its campaign to become a non...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • When I mean me, I mean my office & when I call whaleoil I mean not as m...
    This. Is. Ludicrous. Green Party co-leader Russel Norman put the first of what are likely to be many questions about Mr Key’s relationship with Slater, asking him how many times he had phoned or texted the blogger since 2008. “None...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • A brief word on describing the Government as ‘boring and bland’
    The narrative being sown is that this Government will be a boring and bland third term. Boring and bland. Since the election, Key has announced he is privatising 30% of state houses without reinvesting any of that money back into housing society’s most...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • Roast Busters: Turn Indignation into Action
    People raged about the Roast Buster case. The indignation was justified – it was horrible. “Where were their parents!?” Fair question. I am sure the Roast Busters’ parents and the victims’ parents all wish they had been more proactive in...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Stats NZ only have themselves to blame for postponement
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says Statistics NZ only have themselves to blame for the indefinite postponement of the release of the Food Price Index: November 2014....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • NZ Diversity Survey – benchmarking workplace diversity
    AUT University’s New Zealand Work Research Institute (NZWRI) has released a report on diversity in New Zealand workplaces....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Māori Language (Te Reo Māori) Bill
    Tutehounuku Korako, Chair of the Māori Affairs Committee, is inviting further public submissions on this bill. The closing date for submissions is Friday, 5 December 2014....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • ERA amendments a mixed bag
    The Employment Relations Amendment Act has the potential to put vulnerable workers in a more precarious position, says Equal Opportunities Commissioner, Dr Jackie Blue. However, the commissioner says the right for all to request flexible work hours is...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Sensible Sentencing calls for appeal of judicial activivism
    The Sensible Sentencing Trust is appalled that Justice Jill Mallon has today refused to apply the Life without Parole (LWOP) provisions of the Three Strikes law as enacted by Parliament....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Global Rally against ISIS – for Kobanê – for Humanity, Nov 1
    The New Zealand Kurdish Community will march in solidarity with Kurdistan as part of the “GLOBAL RALLY AGAINST ISIS – FOR KOBANÊ – FOR HUMANITY” on 1 November 2014, 2pm....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Does ‘No-Surprises’ Also Apply To TVNZ News?
    When you stand back and look at NZ media outlets, most of them have at least one or two people who attempt to hold the government to account: John Campbell on TV3, Guyon Espiner and others at Radio NZ, David...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Safer roads are better for everyone
    Recent pedestrian versus vehicle incidents highlight the real issues being addressed by delegates as the 2Walk and Cycle conference concludes....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Law change creates more flexible labour market
    The Employment Relations Amendment Act, passed yesterday, will bring new flexibility to the labour market and will reduce the ability of unions to organise and to recruit....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Bumper ANZ profits mean no excuse for insecure hours
    A big rise in profits at New Zealand's largest bank needs to be reflected in a better pay offer and more security around hours of work, the bank workers’ union said today....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Count down to lowered alcohol limit
    With just a month to go until a new lower alcohol limit for adult drivers comes into effect, Police and road safety agencies are reminding drivers of the impending change....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • WorkSafe Supports Forestry Review Findings
    WorkSafe NZ says the Independent Forestry Safety Review has clearly identified the problems facing an industry in which ten workers were killed last year. “The Review’s analysis matches our own view and leaves no doubt about the need for comprehensive,...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CTU welcomes forestry review recommendations
    The CTU is welcoming the today's release of the independent forestry safety review panel findings. "These recommendations must be implemented to ensure that everything possible is done to make forestry safer." CTU President, Helen Kelly said....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Activists will confront animal abusers
    Today animal rights activists will confront a group of wealth advisers who want to build the biggest egg factory-farm in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Turia: Women’s Refuge Conference 2014
    This is a milestone moment in my life. This will be my last official address as Co-leader of the Maori Party. On Saturday night at our Hui-a-Tau, I will be standing down from that role and enabling a new co-leader,...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rodeo Code of Welfare ‘Sick Joke’
    Animal advocacy organisation SAFE says the revised Code of Welfare for Rodeos just released is nothing but a sick joke. “Rodeo animals are goaded, tormented and forced to endure needless suffering and gross mistreatment, all for the sake of so-called...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Conservative Party applauds binding referenda on flag
    The Conservative Party are congratulating the Government on the decision to hold two binding referendums to decide the fate of New Zealand’s flag – and believes it will pave the way for binding referenda to form part of New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Walk the Talk – Opposing violence against women
    Soroptimist International of Auckland have organised a walk on 22 November from Silo Park at the Wynyard Quarter through the Viaduct and back to Silo Park, to show their opposition to violence against women. This event hopes to raise awareness...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Recommendations on the Design of Pecuniary Penalties
    The Law Commission has reviewed the use of pecuniary penalties as a regulatory tool. Pecuniary penalties are financial penalties that policymakers are increasingly opting to use in place of criminal sanctions in order to punish and deter misconduct in...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Every worker will be affected by employment law changes
    Every worker will feel the effects of the government’s new employment laws and should join a union if they want to maintain and increase their wages and conditions, says New Zealand’s largest private sector union, the EPMU....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Shameful attack on all workers
    The Government has passed the Employment Relations Amendment Act slashing the rights of all Kiwi workers. “These changes are shameful. New Zealand now has some of the worst employment protections in the OECD. It is embarrassing that a country which...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Unnecessary law changes more to do with ideology
    The government’s employment law changes are simply ideological and are at odds with its approach in the related areas of health and safety and immigration law, FIRST Union said tonight....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CTU Runanga calls on iwi leaders
    Maori workers are calling on iwi leaders to speak out against the employment law changes expected to go through today. “Iwi leaders have previously spoken out when workers in Aotearoa have been under attack, we believe they should do so...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Educating children not the best solution to alcohol harm
    Alcohol Healthwatch says we need to look beyond educating children and young people to address deeply embedded attitudes and behaviours concerning alcohol....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • New code of welfare for rodeos released
    New standards to strengthen the animal welfare requirements for rodeos have been issued today by the Minister for Primary Industries, Nathan Guy....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • IPCA report riddle with inaccuracies, say students
    A report by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is riddled with inaccuracies, say students who laid the original complaint with the IPCA....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CT v The Queen – indecency convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rameka v The Queen – murder convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Auckland Council Out of Control
    Responding to the NZ Herald article that some Auckland households will face a rates rise of up to 9.6 per cent next year, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “Len Brown’s pledge to cap rates rises at 2.5 per...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Stats NZ staff escalate action with ‘no more meetings’ rule
    Statistics NZ staff have voted to escalate their ongoing industrial action in an effort to get Stats NZ back to the bargaining table with a reasonable offer. The staff, who are members of the Public Service Association (PSA), have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Rape Crisis calls for changes to criminal justice system
    Wellington Rape Crisis has added its voice to the public outcry following the announcement that there will be no charges in the teen rape gang case. Butterworth says the decision not to lay charges will not have been a surprise...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Police action justified in Blockade the Budget demonstration
    Police actions in dealing with a demonstration in Central Auckland known as Blockade the Budget on 1 June 2012 were justified and appropriate, an Independent Police Conduct Authority report released today found....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • NZDF Joins with Australia to Commemorate WWI Centenary
    A contingent of New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel will join their Australian counterparts at Australia’s first major commemoration of the First World War centenary in Albany, Western Australia this weekend....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Reserve Bank should reduce interest rate
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  • Trade Deal Threatens Farmers and Food Businesses
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  • Kim Workman awarded 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship
    The Victoria University of Wellington 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship, funded by the Stout Trust, has been awarded to justice reform advocate Kim Workman. Mr Workman (Ngati Kahungungu ki Wairarapa, Rangitaane) is well known for his work on criminal justice,...
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  • TPPA causing concern
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  • Kiwis rally to demand justice for ‘Roast Buster’ survivors
    Over 1,500 kiwis have rallied to demand justice after the announcement of the NZ Police decision not to lay charges in the ‘Roast Busters’ saga....
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  • Operation Clover – Statement from Police Commissioner
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    Scoop politics | 29-10
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  • False birth registration brings home detention
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  • Family of Robert Ellis demand a proper investigation
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  • Minister of Health must account for aged care workers’ pay
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