web analytics
The Standard
Advertising

Open mike 03/10/2012

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 am, October 3rd, 2012 - 123 comments
Categories: open mike - Tags:

Open mike is your post. For announcements, general discussion, whatever you choose.

The usual rules of good behaviour apply (see the link to Policy in the banner).

Step right up to the mike…

123 comments on “Open mike 03/10/2012”

  1. T 1

    This isn’t political (society, internet culture and feminism might be relevant tags), but I thought it was interesting.. http://jezebel.com/5946643/reddit-users-attempt-to-shame-sikh-woman-get-righteously-schooled

    • prism 1.1

      T 1
      To the simple minded everybody who looks differently from what observers are used to are freaks who and it is OK to stare at them, point at them, draw other’s attention to them, let their children make loud comments about them etc. So this fits within this reaction from those who have never understood that they fill just one niche in society. It’s just not men looking at women, or vice versa, there are those who scan their surroundings at all times with a judgmental glance looking for anomalies from their approved normality. Disabled people know well about this reaction.

      And it could be regarded as a political matter. There was a saying that the personal is political. If the leaders and controllers of a country decide to control some reasonable personal behaviour, it becomes political. Smoking bans are political, and how they wide they are also, criminalising drugs is political, allowing hate speech and extended harrassment is political if it is sanctioned or ignored by authorities, bullying at school is a political matter, and the desire of authorities not to be responsible for upholding standards with reasonable tolerance for all is political.

    • weka 1.2

      Definitely political. The politics of:

      what happens when women don’t conform to conventional notions of beauty

      body autonomy

      gender, body and confusion in parts of the general population

      online social intercourse and “the seeping necrotic abscess that is Reddit”

      modern media and the loss of personal privacy

      ignorance of religion

       

      • Jokerman 1.2.1

        We forfeit three-fourth of ourselves to be like other people.

        -Schopenhauer

        (now, regrettably, many of the admirable academy were virulent anti-semitics)

        there are two sides to every euro

        -Pan (the earlier renaissance man)

        The safest general characterisation of the (Great) European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato (an unhelpful universalist as history records)

        -Whitehead. paraphr.

        Night

        “…i read the news today..,Oh boy…”

    • joe90 1.3

      I was driving north with the SO last Saturday morning listening to Ms Hill talking to Mary Anne Franks about the troubling treatment of women on the WWW. The SO, who’s a particularly busy person with little time to piss around with the WWW, was appalled and doubly so when I cited the numerous instances I’ve seen of women being trolled on-line. Well worth the listen.

  2. David H 2

    Everyone knows that when you have an under performing team the first place you look is to the leader of that team, But not Shearer he will just tinker according to his instructions.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7749689/Shearer-hints-at-reshuffle-as-few-shine-in-front-row

    Should read: Shearer hints at reshuffle as only one shines in front row.

    And the performing one is not Shearer.

    • Kevin Welsh 2.1

      If performance is the prerequisite, then we can look forward to Cunliffe back in the Finance role.

      • KJT 2.1.1

        As leader, don’t you mean!

      • Bill 2.1.2

        If performance is the prerequisite…

        But it’s not. Internal politiking is the determining factor.

        So, as reflected in the bias of that stuff piece, promote those who are loyal to the deadwood faction – even though it’s an increasingly decayed irrelevance that has been rotting down since the 80′s. And cast doubts on those who espouse views in tune with core and traditional Social Democratic Labour Party values.

    • Dr Terry 2.2

      Shearer says, “I’m certainly looking at where we can improve”. Clearly he avoids the mirror! He and Key are alike in that they are Captains who cast blame for shipwrecks on the crew. I never thought I would find myself looking back on “the good old days of Goff”!
      Robertson is a forceful speaker, Cunliffe combines skills in oratory with high intelligence. Oh, what does it take?

  3. David H 3

    Just been watching Grant Robertson on TV3, don’t ask me what he was saying , because I was way too busy trying to work out who threw his clothes at him His tie is lined under his right eye. Now me I am a Jeans and Tea Shirt guy But if I have to wear a tie (do I own one Hmmm) at least I would make sure it’s straight, to say nothing about being on National Television. If you have to wear a suit and tie, at least make sure you don’t look like you just threw on the first thing that came to hand.

    Labour is just looking more and more used, second hand, out of date.

    • tc 3.1

      That’s what you get when the same strategy and team that lead you to defeat in 08 and 11 are still calling the shots…quack quack. No Goff on the election billboards was a stupid move IMO as he rattled Johnny sparkles in the debates yet there was no image association on each labour billboard for some consistency.

      Fresh thinking via new blood is required, DS doesn’t have to go but the messaging is woeful and media training is desperately needed to keep our shonky MSM from parroting the CT/NACT spin lines .

      GR has his moments but media training teaches you it’s the bad ones that often outweigh all the good ones so you gotta be on your game and nail every chance.

  4. DeeDubaya 4

    Is anyone else a little uncomfortable that the host of Backbenchers is now seemingly pimping for a corporate’s greenwash TV campaign? I mean, that particular company still use palm oil in everything BUT their ‘most popular’ NZ product, right?

    • Lanthanide 4.1

      Evidently he doesn’t mind tarnishing his own brand.

    • prism 4.2

      Haven’t heard about this. What company uses palm oil extensively?

      • idlegus 4.2.1

        they talked about it on tv3s the nation.im personally appalled, & now hes on radiolive in the mornings…gotta pay them bills. cadburys is what hes advertising.

        • tc 4.2.1.1

          Had some cadbury last week after being on whittakers for years….what absolute shite it was, threw over half away.

          Buy local people especially in this case as it’s a far superior product.

      • Lanthanide 4.2.2

        No (chocolate) company in NZ.

        Cadbury’s switched back after the outcry and have never recovered their market position. It came at the same time as they moved some production to Australia and made block sizes smaller – perfect storm to stick in people’s memories. If they’d done each change 12 months apart it probably would have been fine.

        • prism 4.2.2.1

          Lanthanide
          I read no chocolate company in NZ and was shocked . So I grabbed a wrapper of my recent peanut slab and ..it’s imported by Singapore: Lucas Foods (Asia) Pte Ltd. 160
          Paya Lebar Road. Quite an appropriate address. So Le Bar has gone from NZ as all good things seem to do.

          I guess the answer is to buy local from the premises where things are made and make sure that some of our money manages to go and stay into the pocket of a resident working here and paying tax here. Please look round for a local you can support. I try and break myself of the supermarket habit and go to the Green Grocer in Tasman Street, Nelson where you can buy biogro products.

          We had a Buy New Zealand programme when Labour was in. How successful was that? How easily can it be started and does it need volunteer promoters in each town and suburb saying which products are made locally and selling their good points?

          • David H 4.2.2.1.1

            The Chocolate Factory in Pram is good..

          • Draco T Bastard 4.2.2.1.2

            So I grabbed a wrapper of my recent peanut slab and ..it’s imported by Singapore: Lucas Foods (Asia) Pte Ltd.

            Obviously not a Whittaker’s peanut slab:

            All Whittaker’s products are made in our factory in Porirua, Wellington.

        • DeeDubaya 4.2.2.2

          Actually I think you’ll find they only changed ‘Dairy Milk’ and continue to use palm oil in most of their other products.

          ” There remains some of our chocolate blocks – those containing inclusions, caramels, creams and/or wafers – where we are currently unable to make the product without the inclusion of a small quantity of palm oil. ”
          (Source: Cadbury website)

          • Lanthanide 4.2.2.2.1

            Ok, but was that always the case? They may have been using palm oil in those products all along. I suspect also the direct reference to ‘inclusions’ etc is because the palm oil is in those parts, not the actual chocolate itself.

            The outcry was because they replaced cocoa butter – one of the main ingredients in chocolate, with palm oil. The fact that they may still use palm oil in their products is rather immaterial to the point that they went back to using cocoa butter.

  5. Logie97 5

    Failing the writing standards.
    Now to all those worried parents out there who want to know if their children are meeting the writing standard, do you know what the question is?
    For your information, there are several different genre.
    Your children might be able to write a coherent “persuasive” piece but be crap at a narrative.
    Are you expecting the schooling system to make your children best selling authors or be able to write letters to their MP. Truth is you probably don’t really care, as long as they can spell, punctuate, and order their thoughts.

  6. ianmac 6

    Then the difficulty of choosing quality:
    A. The cat sat on the mat. (Simple,clear, error free.)
    B. The cat was so anry her tale twiched her eyes glowd like dagers (4 spelling errors, 3 full stops missing.)
    C. The big black friendly cat sat on the colourful red fluffy mat. (error free.)

    Now which is a pass for a 7 year old child? So many variables.

    • marsman 6.1

      Exactly ianmac. Hence-

      High error rate in National Standards marking | Stuff.co.nz

      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/7761584/High-error-rate-in-National-Standards-marking

      • KJT 6.1.1

        Surprise, Surprise!

      • Dv 6.1.2

        >High error rate in National Standards marking
        BUT by what judgement.
        OK there was a lot of variation.

        What was expected?
        I recall Mallard trying to get Tolley to explain what some standards meant in parliament. She couldn’t.

        Moderation!!!!

        OH and how accurate were the ministry on roll numbers and number of building in ChCh schools.

        • ianmac 6.1.2.1

          I met an Australian teacher a few years ago who was tasked with moderating Primary School Writing across Australia. She said that she was exhausted after 6 months because none of the teachers could agree with just what good writing was. Some teachers, she said, were so cross that they said that they would get the children to write in short sentences with no word longer than one syllable and thus could not be found to make any errors.
          As opposed to their current efforts to get writers to choose just the right word for the writing depending on the designated audience, the right genre, and constantly stretching out for new challenges.
          Stuff that.

      • Draco T Bastard 6.1.3

        Notice how that article was all about the teachers being wrong.

      • insider 6.1.4

        I don’t believe this is a national standards issue. This is inherent in the NCEA or unit standards approach of modern education.

        Apparantly you can pass English all the way through secondary school and never have to study Shakespeare, let alone pass a unit on it.

        • Draco T Bastard 6.1.4.1

          Apparantly you can pass English all the way through secondary school and never have to study Shakespeare, let alone pass a unit on it.

          There’s more to English than dead poets.

          [lprent: ummm I feel the same. However I KNOW that Lyn regards that statement as a flamewar starter for 10 points... Just saying.. ]

          • QoT 6.1.4.1.1

            BLASPHEMY. And it’s not “dead poets”, Draco, it’s a very specific dead poet, because what good is reading Aristophanes or Chaucer or Pope or Swift (and if you insist on Kiwi examples, Baxter) unless you’ve also been forced at gunpoint to write an essay on Romeo & Juliet?

            (My examples are limited to certain periods of literature, I know, but guess what English lit papers I did at uni?)

            • felix 6.1.4.1.1.1

              Shakespeare? Shakes-meh more like.

            • Ad 6.1.4.1.1.2

              Absolutely QoT.

              All these people who waffle about quoting dead theorists, deploying arcane glossaries in their posts, but turn their noses up at poetic thought.

              Whereas you do both, and it’s a far more flexible manner of thinking.

              Keep raising the standard QoT – these old plonkers need it.

              • QoT

                Thanks Ad, though I’ll note that at varsity they always sucker you into Chaucer with The Miller’s Tale so it ain’t all high-minded stuff!

                • Ad

                  No Lord of the Rings, Return of the King, all the jobs, all the academy awards, or indeed the whole revived film industry within The Hobbit. Just in case learning Scandinavian, Germanic, and Middle English were no economic use, mid-brow, lowbrow, or high. Buckle in you non-dead-poets-society people.

            • mac1 6.1.4.1.1.3

              QoT, I was so forced, willingly. The highlight of my trip to Perth WA was to see Romeo and Juliet performed outdoors after a picnic tea on the grass, especially when Juliet came out onto the balcony and commented on the moon rising over the trees.

              And it BLOODY WAS!

              The Kookaburras in the first act, however, were a little whatever the geographical/auditory equivalent of anachronistic is.

          • millsy 6.1.4.1.2

            Cant be bothered with all that thou thee doth crapeth.

            Romeo and Juliet, Merchant of Venice and Othello were the ones inflicted on me…

    • prism 6.2

      I’m looking at thought and imagination showing in the sentence and like B. I believe that teachers and education professionals think that the Nat Standards will result in concentrating teaching on A. That would produce neat and tidy and limited thinkers. Just like what we have now (is that good grammar but do you still understand my meaning?) It seems that Nat Standards are actually tests for teachers and schools, not children. It certainly doesn’t support teachers in their difficult job, and doesn’t support children gain the type of education that we need in the fraught 21st century.

      The education method then in fashion seemed to lack steps for new readers when my children were young. I was always keen to see them reading well, and I encouraged them to break down new big words into syllables and then tackle the whole thing rather than shrink from coping with large words as a whole in the teachers desire to encourage word recognition. My way helped and they read successfully, and can now read Nietzsche and understand it.

      Giving the latest education medicine to all isn’t bound to get good results, first the medicine might be bad or fake, and second because we are dealing with individuals both wonderful and diverse. Only despotic Sauron specifies One Ring (or education method) for all.

  7. marsman 7

    Kiwirail has decided to mothball the Gisborne Napier line. The NZ Roading Transport agency is going to upgrade the road between the two cities so that that the bigger voluble of tucks resulting from the rail closure will have better roads to wreck. Sheer lunacy.

    • prism 7.1

      The Gisborne area needs to have good roads for access to and from the district, PLUS a railway to take the heavy lifting. They had just gained large containers and I understand were able to be transported over the narrow points on the line.

      So Gisborne rail doesn’t pay by $2.4 million annnually. So why should the cost not be carried for a period because of being a remote area, (from the north-south main routes). How can the regions realise their full enterprise potential without guaranteed infrastructure and reliable transport extending into the future. Peak oil has come, fuel will get dearer and scarcer. Apparently these twerps in power can’t think beyond one or two electoral cycles.

      • weka 7.1.1

        What is likely to happen to the railway lines themselves? Will they be left in place?

        • They will disappear overnight and some scrap metal agent will melt it down and some hard up husband wilL put food on the table for his family. And Collins will rage about about how she is going to take a tough stance on rail,line thieves by crushing their cars into scrapmetal.

      • Draco T Bastard 7.1.2

        Apparently these twerps in power can’t think beyond one or two electoral cycles.

        Actually, they can’t think beyond increasing profits for their backers which, in this case, would be the Roading Transport Lobby (or whatever it’s called).

    • Draco T Bastard 7.2

      And it’s probably going to cost more to upgrade the road than it would to fix the rail line.

    • millsy 7.3

      Please shield the eyes of any children reading this:

      Fuck Kiwirail, fuck Jim Quinn, fuck National, fuck Jerry Brownlee, fuck the government, and fuck those who voted National.

      You may unshield their eyes now.

      The decision to close the line was made by an anti rail National government, who believe that rail is obsolete and trucks are the future.

      • karol 7.3.1

        You may unshield their eyes now

        Hmmmm. Just as well I didn’t then.

        But I agree with the sentiment, especially the last sentence.

  8. KJT 8

    More lunacy which will bite us in the backside when imported oil is $10 a litre. If we can get any at all.

    • Colonial Viper 8.1

      The way energy driven economic decline is likely to work is not only the cost of petrol continue to edge up over time, but people’s incomes available to buy it will also be declining all the same while. Its a double whammy.

    • prism 8.2

      kjt
      Don’t worry about that, we have found oil and gas deposits and be able to drill into the sea here and there. No worries mate.

      The Rena hasn’t taught us anything about the cost and destruction of habitat, fauna and flora, and how we people would have to bear cost for cleaning up. The Rena is still costing us $20 million as well as the spending by the owners, and have they paid up everyone yet? and is that just what’s been spent already and is there enough for the other needed work??

      Also the oil disaster in the Gulf, also the Exxon disaster where there were agreements about ready clean up units, officials meant to be checking, laws and careful politicians to ensure that all was well, all missing by the time it happened. The problem was that it took too long for the oil to spill from the start of piping it off – a generation. It seems that human beings ability to take care, be ready for disasters etc can’t last for say more than a couple of years beyond a decade.

      Heartfelt promises today, written into law tomorrow, buried under further laws and matey relationships with baubles involved between supervisory bodies and corporates and what do you get!! Guess. It would happen here just the same, so some oil spills are inevitable. The only thing that might save us would be if the oil ran out quickly before the alert and keen instigators were overtaken by a bunch of hearty red neck contractors looking for the fastest way to do the littlest amount under their set price contracts.

  9. Chris 9

    jkey at Post Cabinet Press Conference on comments by Winnie P. regarding trip to lala land.”I am interested in jobs,not people who live in Fantasyland and want to Make Things Up” He should look in the mirror or do they not have them on Planet Key.Ha Ha Bonk.Laughed my head off at the irony!!!

  10. prism 10

    Chester Borrows is against paper based use in the justice system. The changes he is proposing are swingeing. They would result in secret shady transactions that don’t get the publicity that is needed for exposing and proving malfeasance by the wealthy, and for the poor the same disgraceful, shoddy and burdensome approach from government to handle their requirements that we have seen in Housing NZ will further deny them to access to a fair justice system with even less legal aid and services.

    Justice should be done, and seen to be done. Being called to account for apparent wrongdoing should be carried out in public with paper records that can’t be transmitted worldwide, or alternatively lost unless properly backed up and stored in a millisecond. There is a place for today’s computer technology but not to replace completely the human society services that we have developed.

    The darker imaginings of films and books on possible future scenarios for society are being played out in reality. These shrivelled little personalities that have got into politics, and have got into many of the top bureaucrat jobs, have no thought and care for their fellow humans and what they are creating for them. It’s all just a game of chess to them. If you are clever enough you win, and for the Secretary of Education that apparently amounts to over half a million dollars (ANNUALLY).

    That’s while charitable organisations like hospice and parent support have to work continuously
    to get money and pay their workers possibly the minimum and the managers get only an extra 30% if they are lucky.

  11. Dr Terry 11

    Key should do well in Hollywood, for who can put on better “acts”? Probably he will spend a lot of time at Disneyland with all the kids (sorry, forgot that he does not like kids).

  12. Red Rosa 12

    Minister issues visa, minister revokes visa.

    http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/mike-tyson-s-visa-revoked-minister-5113005/video?vid=5112237

    ‘Potential role model’ one day, barred the next. This story has everything! Love those boxing clips.

    Ministerial footwork worth of a champ, though Wilkinson looks more like a flyweight.

    Calamity Kate, the Iron Mike Lady.

    • aerobubble 12.1

      A member of the board wrote a letter to the Minister and the minister’s staff don’t
      double check that she will be letting a rapist into the country. Sorry, did I just
      wake up in a country not being run by the law and order party???? Banks not
      reading what he is signing??? Hide covering for child identity theft???
      Key not knowing the richest man in his electorate???? Now a minister
      charging a member of some board that they were misrepresenting themselves
      as speaking for the whole board.

      National imploding.

  13. gobsmacked 13

    Revealed – Key WAS briefed about Dotcom – previously denied. He’s in deep.

    (see Key thread)

  14. Rosie 14

    Sometimes, despite myself, I do things that could be injurous to my health, (increased blood pressure, headaches etc) such as reading, and even participating in the comments section on Stuff.co.nz. I know that some of you also listen to talkback every now and again, also putting yourselves at risk of decreased well being. Both these activities however can illustrate to us the cognitive psychology of posters and talk back callers at work and consequently behind the election of a National Govt, not only once but twice.

    If you ever felt sometimes that you are surrounded by idiots and wanted more proof of this then check out the response to the article on Stuff yesterday about Daisy the GE cow (which you also discussed on Open Mike) There are many people who haven’t even bothered to read the article before posting their opinions.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/7757038/Strong-opposition-to-GE-milk

    • weka 14.1

      Does Stuff really not allow comments to be read in chronological order???

      Anyhoo, I liked this comment -

      “Not sure what your point is C.Dub. I am the parent of a young child who is both diabetic and allergic to milk.

      Without insulin she would die so I don’t give a damn where the stuff comes from. GE, E Coli. dead animals, fetid dingo kidneys, pffft. You do what you have to to keep your kid alive.

      If she wants milk, we give her soy or rice milk. What’s the big deal? I guess there may be a market for GE modified hypoallergenic milk but it sure as hell isn’t in my household.

      It reminds me of the story (possibly apocryphal) of the Americans spending millions developing a ballpoint pen that works in space while the Russians used pencils.”

      • Rosie 14.1.1

        Hi Weka.Yes, I liked that comment too.

        Re Stuff comment section. There is usually a button to click for ‘read first’, ie in chronological order, otherwise the most recent comments appear first. You can’t reply to a reply of an original comment. I’ve had to reply to myself in order to respond to someone regarding the topic of labelling.

        I guess what has disturbed me, not only about the ongoing GE ‘allergy free milk”project, which is alarming in itself, is that the majority of comments are pro GE but none of those comments have a sound basis to them. This is the opposite to say, the early to mid 90′s when a good chunk of the population was informed about GE and fervently anti gene technology in food (and I stress food, not medicine) and there was much protest. It was a really urgent and hot issue. It feels like we have now just given in and accepted what many to believe to be inevitable, in the NZ context in regard to production and marketing. Any safe guards we have in place now will will wiped by the TPPA.

        So what has changed in the population? Why do we just roll over? Are we so accustomed to spin, (eg crosby textor stylez) both social and political, that we accept what we are told?

        • weka 14.1.1.1

          Could also be astroturfing.
           
          I don’t comment on news sites because the login is too laborious. I’d like to know how much that changes who posts in comments.

          And so many people just don’t bother with the MSM now.

          I think we’d have to look at some good research on public opinion in GE to now how people feel now.

           

      • QoT 14.1.2

        From vague memory, almost certainly apocryphal on the pencil story, weka (at least, the “lesson” you’re meant to take from it) – pencils can break, and no one wants pointy bits of graphite floating around in zero-g.

    • David H 14.2

      It’s a wonder the Knee jerk didn’t break their own stupid necks.

      This is one of the reasons I gave Stuff up, that and their silly redesign. And it’s a pity as it was a good site before the ‘downgrade’

      • Rosie 14.2.1

        Hi David H. I normally try to avoid getting caught up in their comment section and rarely use the site these days (preferring http://www.scoop.co.nz) but when I do, I always regret it. I have lost faith in the average NZer, to be able to be a fair and resonable person, to think for themselves, to stand up, and to stand by one another in support. (In every aspect of life, not just on stuff comments) Every time I get embroiled in a comment thread I feel a little more of me dies. Its like a cloud of doom descends when I read those retarded comments. Its talkback online really.

        What chocolate shop in P’ram by the way? Must have missed that, haven’t been to the hometown for ages.

        • muzza 14.2.1.1

          Every time I get embroiled in a comment thread I feel a little more of me dies. Its like a cloud of doom descends when I read those retarded comments. Its talkback online really.

          Hi Rosie, I know exactly what you mean. I like to think that the talkback MSM crowd does not really reflect society, and mostly it doesnt. They make up the “influential” part of it in many ways, and thats what I find hard to deal with at times.

          The sad part is that if they could only see or understand that they are on the chopping block too, they would not carry on the way they do. I’ve said it before, the human experiment is destined to fail, because too many have absorbed the lies they have been told, and the life they have been sold.

          Don’t let it rob you of energy though (stay away from the MSM), and keep the good stuff flowing through your life.

          • Rosie 14.2.1.1.1

            Heard. Cheers Muzza. You’re right. Hanging back from the msm can prevent downers and help one to stay focused and positive. However, one can’t avoid dealing with FWit ears- of -cloth -environment -destroying property developers, which has been a task attended to today and is ongoing and unresolved – which further blackened the ‘loss of faith in humanity” theme going on.

            Might go get a bit zen like now……….Thanks for your wisdom.

        • David H 14.2.1.2

          The Chocolate Factory on the corner of State Hwy 1 heading north side and Raumati rd. MMmmm they even do tours with choccy thrown in lol.

          I read the MSM maybe in hope that the comments section won’t be filled with vitriol against those that are poor and down on their luck or on the DPB. But no, I get disappointed as usual at least 10 times a day. I will link to this article I found this morning as the comments section had been closed and it was just a cess pit of hatred. I just went to get the link and the comments section has been erased all gone except for 4 Typical MSM Or maybe they got complaints. But you may have seen the story.
          http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/7757971/Hamilton-women-lead-protest

  15. aerobubble 15

    What would genetic pollution look like? A cow
    incapable of producing a necessary part of calf
    milk in order to supply a human anti-allergy milk?

  16. captain hook 16

    So has POAL been sold to the management yet?

  17. BLiP 17

    .

    Eight grand? Really – eight thousand dollars for an office partition? Because the office layout “just really didn’t work”? Oh, FFS!!!eleventyone!!!

    • David H 17.1

      Ever heard of false walls??? you wheel em in, and when you finished you wheel em out again cost ?? coupla hundy.

    • weka 17.2

      “Trade Minister Tim Groser has spent $8000 rebuilding an office wall that Social Development Minister Paula Bennett had taken down.”

      Lol. Really, that is pretty funny, in a very dark sort of way. Then, more soberly, it says alot about NACT.

  18. Hilary 18

    What is this about – and has it got anything to do with the whole Sky City thing earlier this year?
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/7762416/National-Party-president-among-restaurateurs-victims

  19. insider 19

    Uh oh Back Bencher on fire again…can lightning strike twice in the same place?

  20. Pete 20

    If certain quarters continue to insist the NZ Labour Party model itself on the British Labour Party approach, they should check out reaction to the UKLP’s conference – Ed Miliband’s speech, especially, and note that the Brits have changed tack:

    Ed Miliband made it abundantly clear that Labour will get us off the miserable path dug by this government. His speech marks the long-awaited rebirth of a radical social democracy in this country. We can now start hoping once again. In particular, working-class people can feel that the party is back on their side.

    He drew a line under most of the blunders and misconceptions of the new Labour years. His “one nation” is not the triangulated, all-things-to-all-people message associated with Tony Blair. Instead he targeted the banks and Murdoch without poking at working people’s unions. The country has been waiting to hear that from a political leader since 2008 at least.

    Miliband’s promise is to restore our country to its people. Decent homes and services; fairness before favours for the rich and powerful; our NHS back where it belongs, in public hands – these will make us thrive again.

    Labour must speak for the public against the rampage of private interests. Speak for the people whose talents are wasted and aspirations destroyed. Shake up our banks and take back our NHS. And yes, put the burden on those with the broadest shoulders. That is the agenda set out today.

    A faint heart never won a fair election. Miiband has shown he’s more than ready to do battle in 2015. This is a shot in the arm for the labour movement.

    • Bill 20.1

      Thing is, north of the border Labour are seeking to scrap free universal care for old people, eye prescriptions and so on. But hey…

      • Te Reo Putake 20.1.1

        Bullshit, Bill. A more accurate description would be that Labour want to end the subsidies to the rich, something I’m surprised you do not favour.

        • Bill 20.1.1.1

          Removal of universal care is an absolutely accurate descripton of what Labour are advocating. Which can only be replaced with user pays for some segments of the population. Something I’m very surprised to learn you’re favour of TRP.

          She (Scottish Labour leader Johann Lamont) notes that £57m goes on free prescriptions but ignores the costs of about £30m which would be spent administering a system to charge about 20% of people for their prescriptions.

          She is wrong to say that this is about rich people getting free medicine. Depending on a person’s condition even a wealthy banker would still get free prescriptions as the old system was both means-tested and clinically-driven.

          http://www.heraldscotland.com/comment/letters/cost-of-universal-benefits-pales-into-insignificance-beside-trident.19037504

          • Te Reo Putake 20.1.1.1.1

            Bill, if you make disingenious attacks, expect to get called on it. I’m going to take the side of the poor and the working class in Scotland, you’re free to go with Salmond’s tartan tories and his BFF Rupert Murdoch if you want.

            • Bill 20.1.1.1.1.1

              So if you think my comment is disingenioous, call me on it! Or is the throwing around of way off the mark labels as good as it’s going to get? Those ‘tartan tories’ as you call them are far to the left of Labour and are the one’s (to offer just one example) who have made sure tertiary education has remained free. Which is a kind of good thing for poor and working class people, no?

              • Te Reo Putake

                I did call you on it, Bill. And check the link above, it’ll tell you all you obviously don’t know.

                • Bill

                  The BBC piece titled “Scottish Labour’s Johann Lamont attacks SNP benefits policy”?

                  Yup. Read it. And where did it say that Labour wasn’t attacking the idea of universal benefits? I mean, did the last para or two completely sail right on over your head? She wants to scrap free presciptions and…

                  The Scottish MSP’s appearance at the Labour conference comes the day after a speech by the Labour First Minister of Wales, Carwyn Jones.

                  He said free prescriptions would remain a commitment for Labour at the next Welsh assembly election.

                  Mr Jones pledged the NHS would continue to be safe under his stewardship, “holding true to Nye Bevan’s vision after six decades”.

                  • Te Reo Putake

                    Clearly you don’t get it. You have chosen the side Rupert Murdoch prefers. That’s surprising coming from you, but you may completely and totally ignorant about Scottish politics. It certainly appeears so.
                     
                    Scotland has been forced to swallow an economic dead rat. The SNP have decided that’s appropriate tucker for the poor, the Scottish Labour party want the rich to make the sacrifice. You have chosen to back the rich in order to make a sectarian attack on Labour. More fool you.

                    • Bill

                      No TRP. I know a fair bit about what underpins Scottish politics. And just as I have opinions on the SD politics of NZ although I don’t subscribe to SD as a system of governance, so it is with Scottish politics. And facts are facts. The SNP has been consistently to the left of Labour on social policy. Scottish Labour is now contradicting Welsh and English (British) Labour on benefits.

                      But this ‘dead rat’ you speak of…what’s that? Universal benefits? If that’s what you’re referring to, I recommend you read Oxfam’s(?) recent report on the English care system (not free) that tallies up the cost to the economy (some billions) because people have to give up work to look after sick people and claim benefits in place of a wage.

                    • Te Reo Putake

                      Bill, Britain is broke, and Scotland as usual is getting the rough end of the pineapple. The SNP have moved to the right, Salmond in porticular is extremely pro-business, hence his backing from the Murdoch press. Salmond is prepared to deal to working Scots and the Scottish poor as long as he gets a referendum. Which he will lose, as the majority are convinced that remaining in the UK is the way forward (Andy Murray finally winning something at the Olympics probably helps). The SNP’s popular support has plummetted, because, in Government, they have not delivered for their voters.
                       
                      That doesn’t mean Labour have the all the answers, but if the question is ‘who should pay for the economic crisis?’ the SNP haven’t got a clue.

                    • Bill

                      Oops. Not Oxfam. Here are the links, including the source material

                      http://www.carersuk.org/newsroom/item/2617-care-in-crisis-more-than-53-billion-wiped-from-the-economy

                      http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/healthandsocialcare/2012/04/25/dr-linda-pickard-public-expenditure-costs-of-carers-leaving-employment/

                      http://www.independent.co.uk/hei-fi/news/5bn-lost-a-year-by-carers-forced-to-give-up-work-8179691.html?origin=internalSearch

                      And meanwhile you link to ‘The Telegraph’ for some very objective coverage of Scottish politics??? ffs TRP!

                      Go look at the SNP’s budget. It includes the basic policies people on ts want to see being adopted here by Labour or whoever. And that’s from a government that doesn’t control it’s own public purse.

                      £40 million through investment in affordable housing.

                      …increase the number of schools being built from 55 to 67 bringing forward £80 million investment

                      …£30m over the next three years will help home owners improve energy efficiency, cutting bills and tackling fuel poverty whilst along with investment in low carbon transport supporting our growth industries and helping to meet our climate change targets.

                      …a national employer recruitment initiative that will create up to 10,000 opportunities for small and medium-sized enterprises to recruit young people

                      …”We are also reaping the benefits of the public ownership of Scottish Water

                    • Te Reo Putake

                      Righto, I think we’re talking at cross purposes here. My beef with your original comment was that it was a cheap shot at Labour, and free of context. The Telegraph report is factual, no matter the source. It was just the first one up when I googled it, though I originally read the story in the Guardian or on the Beeb. I was trying to show you where Salmond thinks Scotland’s future lies; with bankers.
                       
                      I’ve gotta dash, but I’ll be back later if you want to pick up. It’s been interesting. A feature of the next UK Government, which looks certain to be Labour led, is going to be how far it moves to genuine devolution, so relationships between the LP and the SNP are going to be crucial. On current UK polling, the SNP might hold the balance in the next Parliament. That’d give’em some serious bargaining power, aye?

                  • prism

                    Hey good discussion. Thanks for carrying it on Bill and TRP.

    • Sorry Jokerman, this ones kinda big, but my thoughts ….

      Kim Jong Un, a civilised man trying to bring peace too his region and is trying too address the loss.

      Ahmadinejad, Likes the idea of addressing the loss in Tehrans’ region (No Offense, it’s what I read).

      Europe, Like I keep telling John Key, we gotta regulate, and stop the embargo on Iran.

      Warmongers in America….
      They’ve been trying to do it fiscally, you gotta remember they’re everywhere.

      The good civilised people that stand next too them are fighting tooth and nail too stop them.

      Those good civilised people are doing it with open communication and due diligence.
      They know more about NZ’s economy than John Key did …. a lot more.
      They are also trying hard for us too get some more cashflow in the local economy.
      Bloody good civilised people in my opinion, helping us save our country despite the incompetence of it’s elected leader, you have too love them for that.

      Irans’ had the possibility of nuclear arms for 20+ years, those warmongers are moronic in their words and actions, It’s amazing too me that any civilised person on earth could take them seriously.

      I’m sure those good civilised Americans I was describing above, our allies, view them in a similar light, with an appropriate amount of fear, they are crazy morons after all.

      Education is the answer too right wing bigotry and violence in our communities, how do they/we educate those Warmongers about the dangers of their stupidity?

      The embargoes on the Super Power Iran simply impoverish the starving poor of the world …. there will never be any other result, our friends and neighbours are out of work, because of oil inflation, engineered by those same warmongers, who hold a chart much like the armies did in the second world war, outlining the oil resources of the world.

      Every country on the planet that has signed one of those documents in error, should rip them up and re-negotiate, make sure you tell America / China / Any other money lender before you do. But none of them want people too starve, that’s an obvious thing too me.

      It’s our civilised duty too Govern the economies of our countries so no one will starve, that’s the goal.
      Don’t let incompetent people destroy your economy again, make sure they are qualified.
      Give them a Job Description, and make sure they stick too it.

  21. prism 24

    What a sad and sorry business this Zion Wildlife Park has led to. The poor cat handler Dalu Mncube mauled to death by the tiger he was caring for, who Craig Busch knew had a false passport, had that held over him whenever he wanted some better standards of safety. He could have been saved from such a horrific end.

    Apparently Mr Busch did not want him to sign a contract and said he would have him deported if he did, and Mrs Busch, Craig’s mother had said she would not carry on employing him if he didn’t sign. The two were fighting for control of the Park and Mr Busch made allegations of unsafe practices just before the death. But she said that Mr Busch had shifted the cats to a different enclosure which didn’t have safe measures for entry and disrupted the environment for the tiger that killed Mr Mncube. A month before the killing there had been an incident when a tiger bit another man on the leg. It has been alleged that Mrs Busch was delaying buying a tazer to have for emergencies, and the Buschs wouldn’t provide a reliable and trained backup person.

    It sounds as if Mr Busch has a narcissistic personality disorder which I have been reading about in the Listener. http://www.listener.co.nz/current-affairs/its-all-about-me-the-rise-of-narcissism/
    ” Further, narcissists seem unable to be empathetic. They cannot see a situation from someone else’s perspective, but nor do they really try, since they mostly think only about themselves and how others see them.”
    How do such people get the right to keep such dangerous animals and when granted the right not have constant serious overview? There had been a number of incidents that had not been reported by the Park to MAF..
    These included a boy being bitten by a lion cub and requiring hospital care, a cheetah escaping in 2011, and a fence being blown down which led to a lion escaping.
    The park was being operated by Craig Busch and then later his mother Patricia, when these incidents happened.

    zion lack of reports

    Now the Park has been bought and being run since about Easter 2012 by new people who were employing Mr Busch. This doesn’t seem right when he could be said to have caused the death of one of his employees. Mr MnCube might have said that he would clean out the cat’s enclosure, but his preferred safety measures had been shifted by Mr Busch. So it seems he had a big responsibility that doesn’t seem to have been sheeted home. He has had his own television show and feels quite the star and now he’s poncing around playing the big man for tourists.

  22. Hey LPRent, why the internal 500 error? a while back.
    Do you encrypt your aliases?
    Not that I care personally, but I reckon you should watch out for newbies.

    Which brings up another point, which is …

    Isn’t it terrorism when the GCSB spy on someone, what are they gonna do with the info?
    And why the hell would they hack The Standard?
    I doubt their machine will be running yet.

    • lprent 25.1

      The site has a few too many posts. The Rss and SEO updates when a post is edited are cuing CPU outages. On my fix list… Now all I have to do is find time…

      And I have very good spam filters

      • BloodyOrphan 25.1.1

        Do you know what a stack smash is LP?
        Or did you crash the service ?
        See below, they modify the tcpip packet to incorrectly report the size of the packet, allowing them to run past the boundry of the executable, they are looking for a running sh they can play in.
        an error 500 is the only indicator cos it’s at the routing kernel level., and any port can be used it

        I only know one man that can pull it off, and he’s done his homework.

      • BloodyOrphan 25.1.2

        Been thinkin…

        He’s probably had access for a while, he can attack any port, and spam filters mean nothing.

        He did this on purpose, coz he knows I know …. something to think about.
        Give him a day and he’ll be back.

        There is only one fix for this problem, talk to the OS people,
        Get a triple checked IP routing kernel, it should be able to report a smash attempt in the logs.
        It’s worth it, this attack is undefeatable without it.
        CPU outages are another indcator by the way.
        Chances are they’ve got your router as well.

        • Colonial Viper 25.1.2.1

          Bad gateway error 500? Been getting the odd one just very occasionally last month or two.

          • BloodyOrphan 25.1.2.1.1

            Someone saying howdy, they’d have to find your process or kill the whole server, first one I’ve seen.
            ie …. …. . . … …… .. … …..d

      • David H 25.1.3

        I got one of those yesterday. Internal 500 error, was going to mention it, but have been battling this rotten flu and I forgot, also as it automatically reloaded the page from your end I really gave it no never mind and it’s not the first time I have seen it. I have also noticed that page refreshes are pretty slow too, and lately they have been getting pretty slow

        • BloodyOrphan 25.1.3.1

          There aint no way it’s the number of posts, a freakin 486 could handle that amount.
          The response times for me are well within boundaries usually.

          • lprent 25.1.3.1.1

            Ah no, figure it through and think server operations. Whenever a edit is done on a post…

            0. The post gets added/updated which effectively causes a wait for virtually all current read operations at the database as it is running on a non-transactional DB and there are several tables that store the posts data. They are part of most queries in a WordPress system. Most cached queries are invalidated and require regeneration when they are next asked.

            1. frontpage gets changed – which requires that the cloudflare cache will have to fetch a new cache for the 30-90 people online on their next refresh (some will overlap on browsers). Typically this starts happening immediately.

            2. A new robots.txt is generated for the whole site – takes 4.5 seconds and usually sucks up the whole of two cores

            3. The search engine gets notified and typically picks up and indexes both the post and any new comments on other pages. This usually sucks up a core for a second.

            4. Google, bing, baidu, yahoo, etc are notified and we immediately get a least 20 search engine systems (many of them pick up from multiple locations) in picking up the robots.txt, the edited post, and any posts that hav had recently added comments.

            5. The hundreds of RSS feeds pop in, see a new post and suck it up over the next few minutes.

            6. Probably a few more that I can’t remember right now…

            But the nett effect is that apache and the database jam up with stacked waiting queries as the CPUs run at 90%. This typically takes about 5-10 seconds in the middle of the night. Then it drops back to the usual 10%. But during the day we have a lot more going on under normal loads. It will usually clear in 20-30 secs but it can take a few minutes if everything piles in at the same time. That will cause apache timeouts. The frequency of the latter is increasing…

            The trick is to push some of these tasks (2-5) on to deferred cron to spread the load. Which requires customizing plugins very carefully because almost all of the existing ones operate on direct hooks. I haven’t had time to do it since the load started boosting towards the end of last year.

            I used to work on 486s back in the 80s and early 90s. And I mostly work on single core ARM 9s running linux in my paid work at present (I seem to oscillate from server systems to embedded these days). They are like pretty fast 486′s. But they have problems stretching to the minimal amounts of data we are feeding in and out via serial and TCP whilst processing in maximum load tests for certification. That is with customized data structure optimized for the task and before we add my GUI on top and with only a couple of connections.

            I rather think you are overrating the capacities of 486s with processing while doing comms. Single core systems just aren’t that good at doing multiple things at once.

            • BloodyOrphan 25.1.3.1.1.1

              Fair enough LP just giving ya a heads up, but ignore it if ya want bud :-)

              How many zombie threads do you see on the server?

              Do you even check?, they’ve probably got a permanent connection , check the age of the zombies, one of them will be days old.

            • BloodyOrphan 25.1.3.1.1.2

              Bud I used too write assembler comms switches on z80 processors running 1200 baud airline reservation systems. one page of solid text = 2048 bytes of data.

              A time out is a 503 error not a 500.

              And bud, Linux / Apache are the most stack smashable solutions on the market.

              They have source code available to the world.

              Your users have been compromised, not that they actually care, they’re not terrorists afterall.

              And it’s not paranoia bud.

        • felix 25.1.3.2

          Yeah I’ve had a few over the last couple of days.

          • BloodyOrphan 25.1.3.2.1

            First one I’ve seen

            It’s a rare error, and they have obviously been on the board for a while.

            It means they know who u are, if u’ve been getting this error, someone wants you too know.

            LP is too scared too admit it, and doesn’t have a clue about stack smashing.

          • BloodyOrphan 25.1.3.2.2

            You both should power cycle your routers by the way.
            You’ll probably find the power button doesn’t work anymore, so unplug/replugin the power adapter.

  23. captain hook 26

    hey bo.
    they cant help themselves.
    in their horrible little minds if they aren’t spying on you then you are spying on them!
    and besides their is an unnamed battle group approaching our shores and eternal vigilance is the price of freedom and blah blah flipping blah.
    and there is a drone watching YOU right now!
    snd just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean that they are not out to get you!
    howzatt?

    • Do you know what an internal server 500 means moron?
      They just stack smashed The Standard
      The fact they have recompiled the service probably saved them a breakin, it indicates a GP fault in the service.
      (i.e didn’t find the sh)

  24. prism 27

    Bloody Orphan
    Why do you throw the word ‘moron’ round? It’s quite a strong word and should be saved for special and rare case.

  25. sorry, I apologise, but they’ve been smashed
    I wouldn’t say something like that without reason

Important links

Recent Comments

Recent Posts

  • Left, Right / Left, Right / Left, Right….
    Having set-out the poll-by-poll stats for the four largest Parties (see Overview post) and for the various minor parties (see Santa's Little Helpers post), it's probably well past time to do the same for Left Bloc/Right Bloc support (by far...
    Sub zero politics | 30-08
  • Blue on blue
    From today's Sunday Star-Times story on the events that precipitated Judith Collins' resignation:...
    Pundit | 30-08
  • National Party Beehive Meeting – 30/08/2014 re: Judith Collins
    What follows is a transcript of a meeting between some senior National Party figures held early Saturday morning New Zealand time. TAPE BEGINS Footsteps and doors opening and closing. Chairs shifting. Various mutterings about a left-wing conspiracy.  JOHN KEY: Good...
    My Thinks | 30-08
  • Queens Wharf Traffic Changes
    In accessing Queens wharf on foot most people flow straight from the intersection of Queen St and Quay St as it is the most direct route. The only problem is that it’s also the entrance and exit on to the...
    Transport Blog | 30-08
  • Judith Collins be gone
    I was in Taneatua for a rendezvous when someone came up clasping their mobile phone and told me Judith Collins has just resigned.  Wow, Key finally pulled the trigger.  The roadshow was coming to Whakatane and Kim Dotcom and the...
    Tumeke | 30-08
  • 2014 SkS Weekly News Roundup #35B
    Antarctic riddle: How much will the South Pole melt? As Louisiana sinks and sea levels rise, the State is drowning. Fast. Climate change's health toll: 'We can save millions of lives, even now' Climate change ups odds of a megadrought...
    Skeptical Science | 30-08
  • Some thoughts on the mass abuse of children in England
    We're all roughly familiar with the the horrible story of persistent mass abuse of vulnerable teenage girls and the shameful failure by the police and social services to help the victims of the notorious 'street grooming' gangs that have been...
    Left hand palm | 30-08
  • John Key’s Top 69 Lies: Today no. 21 – I trust Judith Collins t...
     PM Questioned About Judith Collins  PM Faces More Q's About Collins  Corruption Allegations Fly in Parliament  Judith Collins resigns, says she's a victim ...
    Arch Rival | 30-08
  • Thus, I give up the spear!
    It's a pretty safe bet that when a certain blogger whom we don't name came up with his "trophy wall" of individuals that he had "harpooned" through his work, he didn't ever think that the biggest head mounted on it...
    Pundit | 30-08
  • Are Mental Health Services Failing Cameron Slater
    Firstly, I don’t want to make excuses for the Scumbag Cameron Slater, in fact I am amazed the Police have not yet arrested him for collusion to commit blackmail, or for several other crimes he has appeared to have committed. ...
    An average kiwi | 30-08
  • Corrupt Collins resigns
    Today, the corrupt and arrogant Judith Collins was forced to resign. Clearly her position had already become untenable because of her involvement in the Oravida debacle and a smear campaign against a public servant. Because of Collins and attack blogger...
    The Jackal | 30-08
  • Whose Resignation?
    Judith Collins’ resignation has, it is suggested in some quarters, allowed a line to be drawn under the whole dirty politics saga. We can, it seems, get on with the “real issues” of the election. Such optimism, however, seems entirely...
    Bryan Gould | 30-08
  • Winston Peters finally allowed on TV3 set after standing next to it for 78 ...
    Some political reporters believe that Peters doesn’t have a home, and sleeps in television studios in hopes of being asked about current events. New Zealand First leader Winston Peters was finally allowed on the set of TV3’s The Nation this...
    The Civilian | 30-08
  • Prime Minister issues Judith Collins with last, definitively final, absolut...
    Key insists that this is Collins’ “very last” penultimate warning. Prime Minister John Key cancelled a campaign event in Wellington early this afternoon in order to publicly issue Justice Minister Judith Collins with a “definitively final penultimate warning” over her...
    The Civilian | 30-08
  • A Tale of Two Tracks. Part II – Something new under the sun.
    [This is the second part of a two-part post. In the first post I argued that our modern world is susceptible to 'two tracks' arising in all areas. In this post I argue that it is wrong to claim that...
    Political Scientist | 30-08
  • A Tale of Two Tracks. Part II – Something new under the sun.
    [This is the second part of a two-part post. In the first post I argued that our modern world is susceptible to 'two tracks' arising in all areas. In this post I argue that it is wrong to claim that...
    The Political Scientist | 30-08
  • A Tale of Two Tracks. Part I – A two track world
    There’s plenty of interesting side-tracks to travel down in Nicky Hager’s book ‘Dirty Politics‘. But the main track needs to be kept visible. That track is actually two tracks. And those tracks amount to a highly networked web of relationships between a loose...
    Political Scientist | 30-08
  • A Tale of Two Tracks. Part I – A two track world
    There’s plenty of interesting side-tracks to travel down in Nicky Hager’s book ‘Dirty Politics‘. But the main track needs to be kept visible. That track is actually two tracks. And those tracks amount to a highly networked web of relationships between a loose...
    The Political Scientist | 30-08
  • Serious questions for Jared Savage & the NZ Herald
    So, further to the Cameron Slater email that felled Judith Collins, there’s a particular line in the email that’s rather troubling: I am maintaining daily communications with Jared Savage at the Herald and he is passing information directly to me that...
    Occasionally erudite | 30-08
  • Photo of the day: Urban Charity
    Yesterday was Daffodil Day and in two different locations people put a lot of effort into creating neat displays that enhanced the urban environment and made people stop and look. The first one I saw was on Durham Lane where Daffodils...
    Transport Blog | 30-08
  • Collins’ resignation
    I've just been watching the Prime Minister announcing the resignation of Judith Collins. I'm glad to see her go. A Minister using a sewer-blogger to undermine their own chief executive is absolutely toxic. But rather than resigning, she should have...
    No Right Turn | 30-08
  • Judith Collins resigns
    Oravida and the mysterious Chinese border control official, the Simon Pleasants leak, Bronwyn Pullar’s Privacy Commission complaint, plotting to roll John Key after the election – the allegations just kept coming. Now there’s the allegation that she conspired with Cameron Slater and...
    Occasionally erudite | 30-08
  • Andrew Williams lawyers up
    Andrew Williams is somewhat annoyed about being dumped completely from the NZ First party list. As such, he’s following in his leader’s footsteps and is lawyering up, seeking a judicial review of the party’s decision. My immediate response, on hearing...
    Occasionally erudite | 29-08
  • DIRT ALERT! – Are The Greens And Labour About To Become The Targets O...
    Deja Vu All Over Again? Are we about to see a repeat of the 2005 negative advertising campaign  launched in secret against the Greens and Labour? WE’VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE. In 2005 pamphlets began appearing all over New Zealand attacking Labour...
    Bowalley Road | 29-08
  • Call for Aaron Bhatnagar’s resignation from govt body
    .   . One of the many sordid “bit”-players in Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“, and one of Cameron Slater’s inner-cabal, is businessman, National Party card-carrying cadre,  and former city councillor, Aaron Bhatnagar; . . In 2008, Bhatnagar was caught...
    Frankly Speaking | 29-08
  • Call for Aaron Bhatnagar’s resignation from govt body
    .   . One of the many sordid “bit”-players in Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“, and one of Cameron Slater’s inner-cabal, is businessman, National Party card-carrying cadre,  and former city councillor, Aaron Bhatnagar; . . In 2008, Bhatnagar was caught...
    Frankly Speaking | 29-08
  • Wynyard Cycling Complaints
    The new Waterfront Promenade linking the Harbour Bridge to Wynyard Quarter will be fantastic when finished later this year however its completion will leave a gap in the network through Wynyard Quarter itself. Auckland Transport and Waterfront Auckland are going to be...
    Transport Blog | 29-08
  • Something to do today
    From the FaceBook page: NATIONAL: NOT OUR FUTUREMARCHES ACROSS NEW ZEALANDAUCKLAND RALLY SATURDAY 30th AUGUST. AOTEA SQUARE, 1PMThree weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government's track record and direction....
    The Jackal | 29-08
  • Slater packs a sad
    H/T Porcupine FarmWe all know that Cameron Slater AKA Whale Oil is a bit of a dick at the best of times. His stupidity and vindictive nature is clearly evident throughout the book Dirty Politics and on his discredited blog...
    The Jackal | 29-08
  • Key weak on Collins coup attempt
    Politics is a strange old chestnut with the motivations of those playing the game not always apparent to the rest of us. However, more often than not the politicians invariably only have their own vested interests at heart with little...
    The Jackal | 29-08
  • Koretake II
    The Crown is to appeal against the son of Kingi Tuheitia not being convicted - in a case where the other offenders were all let off without convictions without any name suppression - and the Crown is not to appeal...
    Tumeke | 29-08
  • Another meteorite
    In 2003, the Court of Appeal delivered a bombshell ruling in Ngati Apa v Attorney-General: the crown had not generally extinguished Maori customary rights over the foreshore and seabed, and ownership of particular areas of the foreshore and seabed was...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • Who says organisation, says oligarchy
    So Andrew Williams has decided to do a Winston Peters and go off to Court to try and stop "his" party from excluding him as a candidate....
    Pundit | 29-08
  • John Key’s Top 69 Lies: Today no. 22 -What Cunliffe said about Lochin...
     Key says Cunliffe's Lochinver sale stance weakening Prime Minister John Key said "A couple of weeks ago (David Cunliffe) was screaming at New Zealanders that he would stop the sale (of Lochinver station); last night he was essentially saying, 'I'm going...
    Arch Rival | 29-08
  • Oxfam: saving the tava’e (and the world)
    This guest post is by Oxfam NZ‘s (relatively) new director, Rachael Le Mesurier. She’s off to the UN conference on Small Island Developing States in Apia next week, and here provides an interesting overview of the climate, sea level and...
    Hot Topic | 29-08
  • Robin Hood tax and other clever ways to help our kids
    MEDIA RELEASE: 28th AUGUST 2014 “Robin Hood tax and other clever ways to help our kids” It’s time to talk about tax. Not just income tax but other kinds of tax too. It’s time to talk about Capital Gains Tax,...
    Closing the Gap | 29-08
  • Government to save $400 million by doing ice bucket challenge on behalf of ...
    Turkmenistan’s challenge to New Zealand comes just one week after Pope Francis apparently died attempting to avoid his own $100 donation. The National Government this afternoon announced plans to save New Zealand in excess of $400 million by performing an...
    The Civilian | 29-08
  • Green Election Policy Highly Sophisticated.
    As each new election policy is released by the Greens I am impressed by the depth of thinking, costing and multiple benefits that come with them. We have made a convincing impression this election that we are ready to govern...
    Local Bodies | 29-08
  • Stuart’s 100 #17: A Greater Auckland?
    17: A Greater Auckland? What if we felt like we lived in an Auckland that was greater than the sum of its parts? This is perhaps one of the reoccurring themes in my 100 days project. It reflects the public...
    Transport Blog | 29-08
  • Green Party companion leaders’ debate
    The Greens take an inclusive approach to being excluded. So when we were shut out of the TVNZ leaders’ debate (despite being New Zealand’s third largest party, and despite the two-handed Key-Cunliffe format feeling more like a throwback to First...
    frogblog | 29-08
  • Shouldn’t this farmer be prosecuted for bribery?
    The Waikato Regional Council, in reporting on the fine handed down to a polluting farmer, also has some disturbing news:During the course of the Waikato Regional Council inspections that led to the prosecution, Bilkar Singh, a director of B &...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • Whatever happened to liberty?
    Yesterday, the Independent Police Conduct Authority released a report finding that police routinely exceeded their powers in shutting down "out of control" parties, invading people's homes, assaulting people, using excessive force (in some cases causing significant injury), and shutting down...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • Viewers judge TV3 to be winner in TV One leaders’ debate
    Key says the poll shows that Labour is 4% worse than gouging your eyes out, while National is only 2% worse. A snap political poll taken after last night’s leader’s debate on TV One has revealed that most New Zealanders...
    The Civilian | 29-08
  • Kiwis care about inequality
    Inequality has emerged as the key issue in the election campaign:The gap between rich and poor is by far the biggest issue facing New Zealand three weeks before election day, a new poll has found. The Roy Morgan Research poll...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • Something to do on Saturday
    There will be a series of anti-government marches in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin on Saturday:The Auckland rally starts at Aotea Square, Wellington at Te Papa marching to Parliament, Dunedin held at the Octagon and the Christchurch rally at Haley...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • Speaker: Rocking in the Public Good: Hager and Shihad
    Seldom has New Zealand seen such super-harmonies in the traditionally separate spheres of music  and investigative journalism. The release of New Zealand prog-rocker Nicky Hager’s latest album Dirty Politics coincided with the well known citizen journalist group Shihad’s book FVEY,...
    Public Address | 29-08
  • The cost of irrigation
    At the moment, the government is pushing irrigation and water storage as a way of increasing milk production and boosting the economy. Critics have argued that the result will be dirty, polluted rivers unfit for recreational use. And we've just...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • An empty void at the heart of the election
    Its election time. The blog should be humming. Its not. Why? Because there's not enough policy to comment on. Note that this is not a complaint about Dirty Politics. How power is exercised and the ethics displayed in doing so...
    No Right Turn | 29-08
  • Making money out of fanatics
    Click on image to enlarge This looks like a Xcd cartoon. I picked it up from a new Facebook page The Girl Against Fluoride Lies. Good to see more and more Facebook pages like this. Speaking of fluoride – the cartoon sort...
    Open Parachute | 29-08
  • Debate 1
    As you know, there was a debate last night, and the consensus appears to be that David Cunliffe won. (The strongest clue that National also thinks Cunliffe won is that Kiwiblog has seven posts up this morning to change the...
    Polity | 29-08
  • Labour’s plan to end homelessness
    Labour has a comprehensive approach to end homelessness starting with the provision of emergency housing for 1000 people each year and putting an end to slum conditions in boarding houses, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes that homelessness is not...
    Labour | 30-08
  • Labour: A smarter approach to justice
    A Labour Government will improve the justice system to ensure it achieves real public safety, provides equal access to justice and protects human rights, Labour’s Justice spokesperson Andrew Little says. “Our approach is about tackling the root causes of crime, recognising...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Labour to foster Kiwi love of sport and the great outdoors
    A Labour Government will promote physical activity, back our top athletes and help foster Kiwis’ love of the great outdoors by upgrading tramping and camping facilities. Trevor Mallard today released Labour’s sports and recreation policy which will bring back a...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Pacific languages recognised under Labour
    Labour will act to recognise the five main Pacific languages in New Zealand including through the education system, said Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. Announcing Labour’s Pacific Island policy he said that there must be a strong commitment to...
    Labour | 29-08
  • No healthy economy without a healthy environment
    Labour recognises that we cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment, says Environment spokesperson Moana Mackey announcing Labour’s environment policy. “New Zealand’s economy has been built on the back of the enormous environmental wealth we collectively enjoy as...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Better protection, fairer deal for Kiwi consumers
    Tackling excessive prices, ensuring consumers have enough information to make ethical choices and giving the Commerce Commission more teeth are highlights of Labour’s Consumer Rights policy. “The rising cost of living is a concern for thousands of Kiwi families. A...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki Annette Sykes, Waia...
    Media are advised that this coming weekend, the MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will be on the Internet MANA Road Trip within the electorate of Waiariki. Speakers confirmed are Annette Sykes, Hone Harawira, John Minto, Laila Harre and Kim...
    Mana | 27-08
  • Internet MANA – Waiariki Road Trip: 29, 30, 31 Aug 2014
    The Internet MANA Road Trip hits Waiariki this weekend. It would be great if all MANA members in Waiariki could especially attend the public meetings and show their support for our Waiariki candidate Annette Sykes. Confirmed speakers Hone Harawira (except Taupo), Annette...
    Mana | 27-08
  • First home buyers $200 a week better off with Labour
    A couple earning around $75,000 a year would be $200 a week better off buying a two bedroom terraced Labour KiwiBuild home instead of an equivalent new build under National’s housing policy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe.  “National’s policy to...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Another Day – Another big power profit
    The latest profit announcement from Genesis Energy shows that the power company was sold for a song to the detriment of the country’s power consumers, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “A net profit of $ 49.2 million follows hard...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour embraces the rainbow
    Labour will work hard to ensure all New Zealanders enjoy the freedom to grow up and live their lives in dignity and security. Labour’s Rainbow policy, released tonight in Wellington, focuses on International Relations, Human Rights and Education....
    Labour | 26-08
  • National gets fast and loose with the facts
    In their desperation to make it look as though they are doing something about the housing crisis, National is playing fast and loose with the facts, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour will drop power prices for Kiwi families
    New Zealanders will get cheaper power prices under NZ Power, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The electricity market is clearly broken. With falling demand for electricity, prices should be going down. Instead prices are going up and companies are extracting...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour: Promoting sustainable tourism
    Ensuring New Zealand’s clean, green status continues to be an international tourism benchmark and reviewing MBIE’s oversight of the tourism sector will be on the radar under a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Tourism policy today, spokesperson Darien Fenton said tourism...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Skills shortage a result of National’s complacency
    The fact that there is still a severe shortage of skilled tradespeople, despite a growth in the number of apprentices, is a result of National’s failure to plan and develop the workforce, Grant Robertson, Labour Employment, Skills and TrainingSpokesperson says."The...
    Labour | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker?? – Mint...
    MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is calling for a radical overhaul of New Zealand’s taxation system with calculations showing that a minimum wage worker pays a ten times higher tax rate than the Prime Minister. o Minimum wage...
    Mana | 25-08
  • Labour’s culture of science and innovation
    Labour will create a culture of science and innovation in New Zealand that will be the envy of the world, says Labour’s Innovation, Research and Development spokesperson Megan Woods. “Labour believes that good science lies at the heart of a...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Improving life for our new New Zealanders
    New Zealand’s international standing as a community that encourages and fosters all cultures will be bolstered under a Labour Government with an upgrade of the present Office of Ethnic Affairs to a Ministry. Releasing Labour’s Ethnic Affairs policy, spokesperson Phil...
    Labour | 25-08
  • South Auckland housing crisis
    National’s HomeStart package is nothing more than a political stunt designed to beguile South Auckland voters, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Few working Pasifika and Maori workers in South Auckland will be able to buy their own...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Home buyer subsidy discredited in Oz
    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Public Broadcasting Auckland debate 6.30pm tonight now with Colin Craig &am...
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting debate on public broadcasting happens tonight at 6.30pm in Auckland at the Pioneer Women’s Hall, High Street, Auckland City.  In the light of Dirty Politics and the manipulation of the media, public broadcasting is more important for...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Winners & Losers in Collins sacking plus what’s the latest on Slater...
      Make no mistake, there was no way this was a resignation, it’s a face saving way out for Collins, she was sacked.  My understanding is that National internal polls are haemorrhaging and that the powers that be within National...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Third party propaganda attacks incoming Labour-led government
    . . Further to a report by Daily Blogger, Chris Trotter, on receiving information regarding planned attack-billboards, the following billboard is highly visible to traffic on the southbound lane of the Wellington motorway, just prior to the Murphy St turn-off....
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Labour wins the Internet
    I’m sure I’m not the only one who tried to vote online for the leaders debate and couldn’t because the website was down. The next option was the txt vote, 75c a pop of course. So I’m not surprised that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Rotherham and the need to challenge willful bl...
    I haven’t been following the events in Rotterham too closely.  I’ve read about the basic issues and the culture of silence that stopped action been taken even after complaints were made.  That culture of silence is incredibly familiar, and described...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Review: Hairspray
      Oh Hairspray! What fun! Somehow I managed to miss the movie when it came out, I had no idea really what it was about though I felt it had a vague relation to High School Musical. In retrospect, that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Mounting global pressure against Timor-Leste’s ‘death sentence’ media...
    East Timor’s José Belo … courageous fight against ‘unconstitutional’ media law.Image: © Ted McDonnell 2014 CAFÉ PACIFIC and the Pacific Media Centre Online posted challenges to the controversial ‘press law’ nine months ago when it emerged how dangerous this draft...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Spies, Lies and When Campaigns Are Fried
    Like most of the rest of the nation’s political classes, I was eagerly affixed to TV One from 12:30 on Saturday afternoon to witness the downfall of Judith Collins.Whenever we witness the crumbling of a titan of the political landscape...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Whaleoil crushes Crusher
    Judith ends up shooting herself A new email has been released suggesting that Collins was attempting to undermine the head of Serious Fraud Office with the help of far right hate speech merchant Cameron Slater. Unbelievable!   She has been forced...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Rumours Judith Collins gone at lunchtime
    Brook Sabin first of the mark with rumours Judith Collins is about to resign – PM announcing a statement at 12.30pm… …Paddy follows… …Vance confirms..   …if Collins is gone by lunchtime, it will be because the PM understands the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • BREAKING: UPDATE on DIRT ALERT!
    Thanks to the information passed to Chris Trotter by “Idiot/Savant” from No Right Turn it is now possible to identify at least some of the persons involved in this latest example of attack politics. What follows is Chris’s response to Idiot/Savant’s timely assistance: Well done...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Comparing burning puppets, hip hop lyrics and drunk student chants to black...
    Watching the mainstream media try and obscure Cunliffe’s surprise win in the leaders debate  is a reminder the Press Gallery is in depressed shock. The current spin line from the Wellington bubble media in the wake of Dirty Politics is that...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Why has it all gone quiet on Charter Schools?
    They’re one of ACT’s flagship policies and the National Party have been gung ho in supporting them. So how come we’re not hearing Hekia Parata, Jamie Whyte, Catherine Isaac, et al singing from the rafters about what a resounding success charter...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall
    Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Dirt Alert! Are the Greens and Labour about to become the target...
    WE’VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE. In 2005 pamphlets began appearing all over New Zealand attacking Labour and the Greens. For a couple of days both the parties targeted and the news media were flummoxed. Who was behind such an obviously...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: the Press Council’s decision
    . . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The difference between Cunliffe & Key in the debate
    It was with much interest that I watched the leaders debate on Thursday night.  I watched with an open mind, always happy to have my opinion changed.  Maybe John Key is all the wonderful things that many say about him,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – When Did We Agree To Our Data Being Shared with ...
    New shocking evidence has emerged from Edward Snowden’s trove of documents about a program called ICREACH under which data collected by the GCSB is shared with 23 US spy agencies. Under new sharing agreements which appear to have commenced immediately after...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Why Internet MANA are the best political friends the Greens could ever get
    Metiria at last nights #GreenRoomNZ: standing on the shoulders and camera cases of giants  NZers, regardless of political spectrum or apathy level, have a wonderful beach cricket egalitarianism about us. If we can objectively conclude a winner, then that person...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Sick of the Sleaze? Protest against National’s dirty politics THIS SATURD...
    Sick of the Sleaze? Protest now dammit! Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government’s track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Sir Edmund Thomas – Address at Nicky Hager public meeting
    I regard it as privilege to chair this public meeting. I have long had the greatest admiration for Nicky Hager’s work, and nothing I have read or heard in the media over the past week or so has caused me...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour and New Zealand Superannuation
    The kerfuffle in the wake of Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics has had a detrimental impact on our discussion of economic policies. Signs are that the main beneficiaries of the dirty politics revelations will be Winston Peters and Colin Craig; certainly National suffered...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Mike Hosking and the Leader’s Debat...
    A few weeks ago I blogged that Mike Hosking was a terrible choice as moderator for the TV One Party Leader’s Debate, because he is so embarrassingly biased in favour of John Key. So I watched the show with curiosity,...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Democracy and Cancer: A critical analysis of Dirty Politics
    Twenty years ago, England’s renowned television playwright Denis Potter died of pancreatic cancer.  Readers may recall his two masterpieces ‘Pennies from Heaven’ and ‘The Singing Detective’.  During a final television interview with Melvyn Bragg, Potter declared that he had named...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Cunliffe beats Key in First Leaders debate
    I watched the First Leaders debate at the Green Party #GreenRoomNZ, they were very kind to include me and the atmosphere was great. The debate was a resounding victory to Cunliffe. He won Round 1, Round 2, Round 3 and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • LIVE STREAM: The Green Room Leader’s Debate from 6:30pm
    The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding to the debate live, along with comment from thought leaders and commentators. ‘The Green Room’ 6pm – 8.30pm...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • How many taxpayer funded staff does John Key need to prepare for a Leaders ...
    John Key is currently at the Auckland Stamford Plaza with 40 staff, 4 undercover police cars and an entire floor booked out in preparation for tonights Leader’s debate. Isn’t 40 staff including coms, flown up to Auckland for a debate...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • A brief word on National Party Rodney MP, Mark Mitchell
    MP considers legal action against Nicky HagerThe National MP says he is considering taking a defamation case after the September 20 election.“Someone needs to be held accountable,” he said. Oh really champ? Brothers and sisters, there is a long way...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Greens advertise on Whaleoil – but not on The Daily Blog?
    PaknSave have shown ethical compass and blocked adverts on Whaleoil, yet the Greens are advertising on Whaleoil, and not The Daily Blog? I would imagine there are far more potential Green voters on The Daily Blog then ever are on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • It’s about the stupid economy stupid
    In focus group meetings, the sleepy hobbits of NZ by a staggering amount all believe that National are better economic stewards of the country than Labour, that’s why, instead of answering questions about blackmailing MPs, trawling brothels for dirt on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour Policy vs National Policy
    John Key’s favourite defence spin at the moment is people want to talk about policy and not hear answers on the ethics of trawling brothels, why Slater was given SIS information, blackmailing MPs into standing down, rigging candidate elections and hacking...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • The Green Room live streamed on TDB 6.30pm tonight for First Leaders debate
    The ‘Green Room’ will stream 6.pm tonight on The Daily Blog during the TV One leaders’ debate.Use #GreenRoomNZ to join in. The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Manukau East – the next Coalition in action
    A couple of weeks ago I had the pleasure of opening Voice Up – a youth forum run by young people in Otara. I had been asked as Chair of the Local Board to set the scene, encouraging young people...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – The Big Bang Theory
    It’s a shame that it took a brain injury for me to start seeing things with such startling clarity. The realisation that lawyering, fishing, parenting, selling cars and racing yachts had common themes was stunning. Not perhaps as stunning as...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how much Key aro...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls
    MIL OSI – Source: Selwyn Manning – Analysis Headline: 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls 5AA Australia: On this week’s Across the Ditch bulletin on 5AA Australia, host Peter Godfery and Selwyn Manning discuss the aftermath...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • La’o Hamutuk calls for inquiry into Timor GAP ‘mismanagement’ of oil ...
    The Suai project on the South Coast … “liberated” land but confused communities.Photo: La’o Hamutuk David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. AN INDEPENDENT Timor-Leste development and social justice agency has called for an inquiry into the Timor GAP corporation...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • What Is Nicky Hager?
    WHAT WILL HISTORY MAKE of Nicky Hager? That slight, perpetually boyish, journalist who descends periodically, like the admonishing angel in a medieval mystery play, to trouble our consciences and wreak merry havoc with the orderly conduct of our political affairs....
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Can anyone in msm explain how after Dirty Politics that they all got played...
    Would you not think, that after reading Dirty Politics, that our mainstream media wouldn’t allow themselves to get tricked and played again by the VERY SAME discredited pundits? The best new feature on Radio NZ is their ‘Blog Watch’ and their...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Crusher Collins caught out lying about Privacy Commissioner – is this her...
    Crusher angry. Crusher smash own career. Crusher more angry. You would think that after getting outed as such a nasty, vicious piece of work in Dirty Politics, that Crusher would be scrambling to dial back the lies and manipulations. Apparently...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Cunliffe vs Key – first leaders debate
    This is your election ‘moderator’ – just one more reason an incoming Government need to sack everyone at TVNZ and reform it into an actual public broadcaster. The first leaders debate happens this Thursday, 7pm on TV One. I have...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – An Old and Honourable Profession
      When Dirty Politics started to reference an ex-prostitute I began to get antsy. My first response was “come on Nicky, we decriminalised in 2003. Its sex worker.” My second response was “Ah oh. Who was it and did they...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Bought and paid for: the dirty politics of climate denial
    Has climate denial in New Zealand been bought and paid for by corporate interests? We already know that the ACT Party’s routine denial is closely linked to the financial support the party receives from wealthy free market fundamentalist Alan Gibbs,...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • If the msm read The Daily Blog, THIS wouldn’t be a surprise – explainin...
    Yawn. How embarrassing for Hamish Rutherford and Andrea Vance, their breathless article today suggests that the idea of Labour and NZ First cutting a  deal over the buy back of assets  is some how new news. Silly mainstream media  journalists. If...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker??
    Yesterday I did some calculations to find out what tax John Key pays compared to a worker on the minimum wage. And I put out this media release for the Mana Movement: MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Hip hop death threats – the selective outrage of our media
    PM death threat in hip hop songAn Auckland hip-hop crew slammed for releasing a song with lyrics that apparently include a threat to kill Prime Minister John Key are urging young people to enrol to vote. Kill The PM, by...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes
    Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this!
    I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this weird spear tackle from behind by his own company. I was listening to this interview at the time, and the awkwardness of it must be the worst...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Is it weird Radio NZ ban me yet still have….
    Is it weird Radio NZ ban me for life because I criticised the Prime Minister yet still have Matthew Hooton, David Farrar and Jordan Williams, 3 of the main protagonists revealed in Dirty Politics as part of their ongoing political...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Christchurch GCSB meeting – why mass surveillance matters in 2014
    This is the video for last weeks GCSB meeting in Christchurch. Don’t forget Nicky Hager’s public meeting Wednesday night in Auckland, TDB will live stream the event in the interests of our democracy. Broadcast starts 7.30pm here on TDB....
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Statement by State Services Commissioner
    30 August 2014 "The State Services Commission was contacted by the Prime Minister's Office over the last 24 hours on this issue." “Any activity that undermines, or has the potential to undermine, the trust and confidence in the public service...
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Christchurch Council Circus … Continued
    In 2010 the UK Daily Mail investigated the antics of a major bureaucratically bloated London Local Authority and reported with THE GREAT INERTIA SECTOR ....
    Scoop politics | 30-08
  • The Nation Housing Debate
    Patrick It's the great Kiwi dream, but is owning the roof over your head now just a pipe dream for many Kiwis? Homeownership is at the lowest level in half a century. National's answer is to double subsidies to first-home...
    Scoop politics | 30-08
  • Time to Shine Light on Shadowy Spies
    Internet MANA has promised to set up a Royal Commission of Inquiry into New Zealand’s intelligence agencies, with a view to transferring oversight of spying operations to a new, independent authority....
    Scoop politics | 30-08
  • New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues
    New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues (41%) while the World’s most important problems are War & Terrorism (35%) just three weeks before NZ Election...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ 2014 Leaders Index – week ending 29 August
    Below is iSentia’s first weekly Leaders’ Index, showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. We will produce these reports for the next three...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Judgment in Paki v Attorney General
    Tamaiti Cairns said that today’s Supreme Court decision is complicated, but, in essence opens the door for Maori people to go forward with their essential claims to water. Further work is required and Pouakani Trust will continue to pursue its...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Supreme Court Decision on Maori Water Rights
    “ … the Supreme Court refused to give Pouakani people what they asked for, but may have given them something much, much better instead. The Appellants had argued that the Crown’s ownership of the River was as a fiduciary for...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Leaders Dinner with Campbell Live, Dessert with RadioLIVE
    John Campbell is hosting Colin Craig, Winston Peters, Laila Harre, Metiria Turei, Peter Dunne, Jamie Whyte and Te Ururoa Flavell LIVE from Auckland’s Grand Harbour Restaurant on Wednesday 3 September at 7pm....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Credit unions in the political spotlight
    Dirty politics was put aside last night as senior politicians outlined their universal support for growing the cooperatively owned credit union and mutual building society sector in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Maryan Street on issues of importance to older people
    Liam Butler interviews Hon Maryan Street MP on issues of importance to older New Zealanders...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • John Hanita Paki and others v The Attorney-General
    JOHN HANITA PAKI, TORIWAI ROTARANGI, TAUHOPA TE WANO HEPI, MATIU MAMAE PITIROI AND GEORGE MONGAMONGA RAWHITI v THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL OF NEW ZEALAND FOR AND ON BEHALF OF THE CROWN (“THE CROWN”) (SC 7/2010)...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Last Nights Leaders Debate Drives The #nzpol Wordcloud
    Following last nights leaders debate on TV One between John Key and David Cunliffe, the data insight organisation Qrious collected all tweets that used the hashtag #nzpol from approximately the last 24 hours to produce this wordcloud....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Campaign suggests reason behind suicide gender statistics
    An online campaign about meaning and belonging has revealed an interesting connection with the difference in suicide rates between men and women....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Act Policy Vindicated by Sensible Sentencing Data
    ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte says the Sensible Sentencing Trust's just released analysis of 3 Strikes legislation "proves ACT was right to promote the policy and that it has made New Zealand a much safer country. The figures show beyond...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • “Robin Hood tax and other clever ways to help our kids”
    It’s time to talk about tax. Not just income tax but other kinds of tax too....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Cannabis Laws Breach Treaty – ALCP
    Cannabis prohibition is neo-colonial oppression resulting in the disproportionate imprisonment of Maori, the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party says....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • 2014 Variation Broadcasting Allocation Decision Released
    The Electoral Commission has released a variation decision on the amount of time and money allocated to political parties for the broadcasting of election programmes for the 2014 General Election....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • New Zealand Shoppers- Demand Blue Tick Accredited Products
    Following ongoing concerns surrounding the issue of animal welfare in farming, particularly in the layer and broiler chicken sectors, the RNZSPCA is now asking consumers to purchase only eggs, pork, turkey and chicken that have been Accredited by the Blue...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Environment Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Environment Policy which recognises that New Zealand cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Candidate calls for an end to institutional racism
    29 AUGUST 2014 Tāmaki Makaurau candidate, Rangi McLean has spoken up in support of Irie Te Wehi-Takerei who was wrongfully accused of shoplifting at a Warehouse store in Manukau. "Over the last month, two different supermarkets have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Making tertiary education more accessible to Māori
    29 August 2014 The Māori Party launched its tertiary education policy today at Te Huinga Tauira o Te Mana Ākonga, the national hui for the Māori Teritary Students Association in Palmerston North. Te Tai Hauāuru candidate Chris McKenzie says the...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ Sign Language programmes receives $11 million boost
    Deaf Aotearoa are thrilled with Education minister Hekia Parata’s announcement this week that $11 million in funding will go towards a range of New Zealand Sign Language initiatives, including First Signs – a programme that involves sign language...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Abortion violates the Human Rights of Fathers
    Fathers1Right to Life is concerned at the glaring imbalance that exists in law, in regard to the rights of men to defend the lives of the children they have fathered. Fatherhood commences at conception. Children in the womb, just like...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Hundreds to join march against male violence in Auckland CBD
    Hundreds of supporters are expected to join the 'Take Back the Night' march through central Auckland streets tomorrow night in solidarity with making the streets safe for women and the rainbow community to walk without fear of male violence....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Classic example of need for Conservative policy
    The Conservative Party Justice Spokesman, Garth McVicar believes the sentencing of killer Aaron McDonald is a classic example of why an overhaul of the parole and sentencing system is required.”...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Greens & Labour Politicising Bullying in Schools
    Family First NZ says that both the Greens and Labour are wanting to politicise and sexualise school children under the guise of bullying programmes rather than deal with the school bullying issue as it should be dealt with....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Wellington National Is Not Our Future Rally 30/8/14
    Thousands of people will march and rally at National is not our Future events on Saturday. Auckland is the main rally centre with supportive actions in Wellington, Dunedin, Christchurch and Hamilton. In Wellington, marchers will assemble at Te Papa...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • EPA grants marine consent for OMV exploration well
    The Environmental Protection Authority has granted a marine consent to OMV New Zealand Ltd for its Whio-1 exploration well in the Taranaki Basin....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • First anniversary of the horrific chemical attacks on Syria
    Members of the Syrian Community and friends are commemorating the first anniversary of the horrific chemical attacks on Syria, in Aotea Square on Saturday 30 August 2014, between 11-3 pm. The Assad regimes chemical attacks on al Ghouta were responsible...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Anniversary of the NZ Occupation of German Samoa
    Today, 29th August 2014, marks the 100 years centenary of the occupation of Samoa by New Zealand forces at the request of the British empire, ending the German rule of Samoa. It is also the starting point for the special...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Submissions sought on mosquito repellent
    The Environmental Protection Authority is calling for submissions on a portable mosquito repellent for use outdoors. The repellent consists of a strip impregnated with metofluthrin, a substance from the pyrethroid family....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Spot the difference – the leaders debate
    I watched the Leaders' debate last night and was struck by the fact that John Key accepted all of David Cunliffe's basic assumptions. For example, he did not say that the government should not tell farmers who they could sell...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Colin Craig’s tax figures do not add up and are dishonest
    “Colin Craig’s tax plan is to have two rates of income tax: 0% up to $20,000 and 25% above that. This will leave a $6.4 billion hole in the budget even before the new spending proposed by the Conservatives. The...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Dirty Politics Impacts National Party Support
    Media Release – For Immediate Release Dirty Politics Impacts National Party Support Support for National has dropped by 4.3% to 50.8%, the latest stuff.co.nz / Ipsos political poll shows....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Labour’s environment policy welcomed
    The independent conservation organisation Forest & Bird says that overall the Labour Party’s newly released environment policy would go a long way towards protecting New Zealand’s natural heritage....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • National: Not our Future Marches across New Zealand
    Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government's track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin to oppose National's...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Tune in to tonight’s debate from 7pm
    The countdown is on! You can watch the first leader’s debate for 2014 tonight, 7pm, on TV One ....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Gamblefree Day 1 September
    It's Gamblefree Day this Monday 1 September, the national awareness day for problem gambling in New Zealand. While traditionally celebrated on the first day of September, many events and activities are held both before and after this day to raise...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Success through captioning should be a given as a Right
    Success through captioning should be a given as a Right per the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Alcohol Marketing Committee Questions Government’s Motives
    An Independent Expert Committee on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (IECAAS) has been formed out of concern amongst alcohol and public health researchers about the government’s Ministerial Forum on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (MFAAS)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • How Much Higher Can Auckland Prices Go?
    National's plan to liberalise the use of Kiwisaver funds and its proposal to raise ts cheap "Welcome Home" loan thresholds to help buyers purchase a new home has been welcomed by home building companies but attacked as a "welfare scheme...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • OPC submission period extended
    We have extended the submission period for the modified reassessment of a bee control affecting five organophosphate and carbamate insecticides (APP202142)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Vinay Deobhakta struck off roll of barristers and solicitors
    The New Zealand Lawyers and Conveyancers Disciplinary Tribunal has ordered former Tauranga lawyer Vinay Deobhakta to be struck off the roll of barristers and solicitors....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Major parties to front up for Climate Voter election debate
    New Zealand’s main political parties will take part in ‘The Great Climate Voter Debate’ on September 3....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Family violence… too big to be ignored
    As Annah Stretton gears up for her New Zealand Fashion Week show on Thursday she is utilizing her spotlight to help change the face of family violence in this country saying “the problem is far too big to ignore”....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Candidate’s SOS to northern Maori voters: Save our seats!
    (Extract from address by Rev Te Hira Paenga to Kura Hourua Maori Political Leaders hui, in Whangarei this evening)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Mary O’Neill to Stand for the Alliance in Napier
    The Alliance Party has confirmed Mary O’Neill as the Alliance candidate in the Napier Electorate for the 2014 election....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • TONIGHT [28/8/14]: The Great Political Comedy Debate
    It's a night for debating. You could stay home frowning at tonight's Leaders debate, or laugh it up with us at BATS!...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Cunliffe against personal responsibility over billboards
    The accusation by David Cunliffe that the Conservative Party is subscribing to a surveillance society by protecting its billboards via the use of motion sensor cameras reveals an anti-personal responsibility position by the about-to-be-retired Leader...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
Images of the election
Public service advertisements by The Standard
x
Unusual punctuation in comments is automatically going into spam. It is a bug. Your message will be extracted manually.