Open mike 07/12/2013

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1. risildowgtn 1

   7 December 2013 at 12:05 pm

   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11168490

   Now re Sky City and the Proceeds of Drugs ACT etc etc etc ,

   When will the Crown be confiscating Sky City or is only the poor who this Law applies to?
   • fender 1.1

     7 December 2013 at 12:26 pm

     Yes shonKeys cronies harbour criminals all too often.

     “When will the Crown be confiscating Sky City or is it only the previously poor who this Law applies to?”
   • Rogue Trooper 1.2

     7 December 2013 at 12:35 pm

     DIA 2007 report- “significant amount of evidence that ‘predominantly Asian groups’ were frequenting NZ casinos for the purposes of criminal networking, money-laundering, and social gambling using illegitimate funds” : “25% of money-laundering prosecutions successful” ; an 88% return on pokie machines if one has the resources and the time.
     • phillip ure 1.2.1

       7 December 2013 at 3:03 pm

       then there is this more recent report/infographic..

       http://whoar.co.nz/2013/infographic-of-new-zealands-global-role-as-a-tax-haven-recommended-look/

       phillip ure..
2. Rogue Trooper 2

   7 December 2013 at 12:51 pm

   Something for the Inequality observers to get their Teeth into.
   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11168404

   While “Doctors” (plural) come up pearly white.
   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11167932
   • Draco T Bastard 2.1

     7 December 2013 at 4:18 pm

     Something for the Inequality observers to get their Teeth into.

     What they’re describing there was one of the reason abortion was made legal and we ended up with a state health system. Time, it seems, to bring dentistry into state health and to stop kowtowing to those that just want to get rich off of other misery.
     • Colonial Viper 2.1.1

       7 December 2013 at 4:33 pm

       All fine and dandy mate, but are we prepared to drastically cut down on the debt that doctors and dentists leave school with?
       • Draco T Bastard 2.1.1.1

         7 December 2013 at 6:07 pm

         IMO, I think a lot of people would be in favour of dropping university fees to have access to the medical care that they need.
     • TheContrarian 2.1.2

       7 December 2013 at 4:41 pm

       I agree – although I can afford dentistry and wouldn’t make much difference to me it is a cost that should come under the umbrella of state healthcare.

       It is goddamned expensive and having my wisdoms out set me back $1500 (could have been cheaper if I had elected not to go under but I wanted to be fully out for it. And the Fentanyl gave me a wicked buzz 🙂 )
3. Rogue Trooper 3

   7 December 2013 at 12:55 pm

   Money Talks and quotes Mao.
4. Rogue Trooper 4

   7 December 2013 at 1:06 pm

   Wang Lutong : 12th Ambassador : Very Diplomatic indeed
5. Penny Bright 5

   7 December 2013 at 1:15 pm

   All happening here in New Zealand – ‘perceived’ to be ‘the least corrupt country in the world’?

   http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11168490

   SkyCity Casino is at the centre of a $120 million drug bust with key players in the alleged international crime syndicate spending millions of dollars in the VIP lounge.
   …..

   Inquiries by the Weekend Herald can reveal that the 18-month investigation started in the VIP lounge of the casino and police are focusing their attention on the millions of dollars gambled there by several individuals.

   ……

   Report cites link to laundering
   The link between SkyCity and allegations of organised crime gives more ammunition to critics of the Government’s deal with the casino for a $402 million convention centre.

   The Herald revealed last year the casino would get more cashless gambling machines, among other concessions, in return for the convention centre investment.

   The Ticket-In Ticket-Out machines make it easier to launder money, according to a Department of Internal Affairs report released under the Official Information Act.

   Money-laundering in casinos can be done in several ways. One is simply exchanging cash for casino chips, then cashing them in later in the day for a winner’s cheque, although doing this too often can raise suspicions among casino staff. Alternatively, money can be pumped straight into poker machines, which work on a mathematical calculation that the casino will eventually keep 12 per cent of the takings. That means that by spending enough time – and money – someone can recoup up to 88 per cent of the money gambled.

   The Green Party opposes the convention centre deal and last year suggested the casino should pay back the millions of dollars in criminal profits spent there.

   SkyCity chief executive Nigel Morrison said at the time that the Greens’ claims had no substance, and no one was convicted of money-laundering at SkyCity.

   Documents released under the Official Information Act show Justice Ministry officials believed the wording of the money-laundering offence did not meet New Zealand’s international obligations.

   Money-laundering is widely considered to include situations where criminals are prepared to deal with the profits or assets of criminal activity as apparently legitimate income. But court judgments have interpreted the charge to mean the Crown must not only prove that the alleged launderer converted assets from one form to another, but did so with the “very purpose” of “concealing” the property.

   A consequence of that ruling is that underworld figures have been acquitted of money-laundering because they publicly spent millions of dollars in cash or assets derived from serious crime such as drug dealing.

   Justice Minister Judith Collins has signed off on a change to the Crimes Act charge of money-laundering but it has yet to come into force. Official figures show that just 25 per cent of money-laundering prosecutions have been successful. ”

   _____________________________________________________________________________

   Yet OFCANZ did NO ‘due diligence’ on the increased risk of money-laundering arising from the New Zealand Convention Centre Act 2013, despite their ‘stated focus’:

   THE STATED FOCUS OF OFCANZ IS ‘MONEY-LAUNDERING’:

   http://www.ofcanz.govt.nz/about-ofcanz/focus-areas
   About OFCANZ

   “Focus areas

   OFCANZ’s focus is:

   New Zealand Adult Gangs – particularly those identified as engaging in the illegal drugs market and serious violence,

   Asian organised crime networks – with particular interest in the money laundering processes associated with these criminal networks.

   Organised crime enablers – a particular emphasis on criminal offending that is aimed at enabling wider national or trans-national organised criminal activity (eg. Money laundering, identity fraud). ”

   The OFCANZ OIA which proves they did no ‘due diligence’ on the increased risk of money-laundering arising from the (now) New Zealand International Convention Centre Act 2013:

   http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/SKY-CITY-OFCANZ-OIA-REPLY-NO-DUE-DLIGENCE-RE-MONEY-LAUNDERING-bright-penny-06-c211711-2-sent-reply.pdf

   There is a LOT more to this story, including the role of NZ Prime Minister John Key, and Minister of Economic Development Steven Joyce in the railroading through of what I prefer to call the ‘Sky City Money-Laundering Act’ 2013, – because, in my considered opinion, that is EXACTLY what it is.

   Penny Bright

   ‘Anti-corruption / anti-privatisation Public Watchdog’
6. bad12 6

   7 December 2013 at 1:16 pm

   Ex Green Party candidate David Hay apologizes unreservedly to Green Party leader Metiria Turei for His comments that She was involved in His ousting by the Party Council from the list of candidates to contest the 2014 election,

   What got Hay spanked by the Party was that He campaigned for electorate votes in the Epsom electorate in 2011 despite being expressly told by the Party not to,

   Between them, Hay and Labour’s David Parker gathered up some 5000 electorate votes and had they done the intelligent thing and identified those who were willing to vote FOR their parties and urged them to vote for the National candidate we might not have suffered John Banks or Slippery’s National Government since 2011,

   To gain, and maintain the Treasury Benches the ‘left’ have to learn Tactical Voting along with advising their supporters of the specifics simply plodding along in some out-dated first Past the Post dreamworld just wont win elections of the future…

   [lprent: link it in the future please. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11168230 ]
   • Rogue Trooper 6.1

     7 December 2013 at 1:19 pm

     Pass the baton, it is a relay to the finish.
     • Ake ake ake 6.1.1

       7 December 2013 at 1:41 pm

       Given Parker’s latest super policy announcement, will he be able to let go the baton and resist using it to self-flagellate any of his neo-lib views in full demo before Labour voters in Epsom?
       • Rogue Trooper 6.1.1.1

         7 December 2013 at 1:43 pm

         Epsom, where’s Epsom? 😀
       • phillip ure 6.1.1.2

         7 December 2013 at 1:50 pm

         @ ake..

         http://whoar.co.nz/2013/britains-poor-will-die-before-they-retire-if-pension-reforms-arent-matched-by-health-improvements-labours-face-palming-stoopid-stoopid-ideapolicy-announcement/

         (excerpt:..)

         “….and what is particularly brain-numbingly fucken dumb about this policy from labour..

         ..is that the constituency they are surely trying to win back..is (poor) maori..?

         ..who die much earlier than (wealthier) pakeha..

         ..they must be looking at this brainfart from parker/labour..

         ..and going ‘huh..?’..

         ..and they sure as hell won’t be voting for that to happen..

         ..have labour just given up on the maori-vote..?..”

         phillip ure..
         • greywarbler 6.1.1.2.1

           7 December 2013 at 1:57 pm

           phillip u
           Good point. Question Labour needs to answer.
7. greywarbler 7

   7 December 2013 at 1:55 pm

   Some of my comments seem to be vanishing. As I move around I have been presented with a page that is blank under the heading portion.
   • lprent 7.1

     7 December 2013 at 2:09 pm

     Odd I saw that this morning as well. I think that the file server has an issue. I’ll give a a good kicking (ie check processes, memory and restart some services)
     • alwyn 7.1.1

       7 December 2013 at 2:18 pm

       You brute you! How dare you kick a poor innocent server. All that does is to make it sulk and refuse to do anything at all. Any server psychologist could tell you that.
       • Lanthanide 7.1.1.1

         7 December 2013 at 2:33 pm

         It’s not innocent. It’s misbehaving.
         • alwyn 7.1.1.1.1

           7 December 2013 at 3:55 pm

           True, but surely to misbehave it must be a sentient being and we should recognize it as such?
           In that case wouldn’t the antii-smacking law apply?
           • David H 7.1.1.1.1.1

             7 December 2013 at 8:34 pm

             He wasn’t going to Smack it, he was going to kick it.
       • lprent 7.1.1.2

         7 December 2013 at 8:26 pm

         That is what I am worried about. The sulking server, a curse of civilisation
8. chris73 8

   7 December 2013 at 2:26 pm

   http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/film/9490225/Critical-praise-for-Hobbit-sequel

   – Good to see a kiwi getting the praise he deserves
   • amirite 8.1

     7 December 2013 at 4:17 pm

     with compliments of taxpayer’s funds
     • chris73 8.1.1

       7 December 2013 at 4:58 pm

       and he did real good with it as well
       • fender 8.1.1.1

         7 December 2013 at 5:52 pm

         Yes it’s a nice aeroplane
         • idlegus 8.1.1.1.1

           7 December 2013 at 7:39 pm

           the reviews so far are all saying ‘better than the first film…’, then when the third one comes out they will all say ‘better than the second…’, one review even raves about the story! if you want to see a really good 3d film see ‘gravity’, less than 2 hours long too.
9. phillip ure 9

   7 December 2013 at 2:40 pm

   the ‘family guy’ promotion is over..

   ..brian is coming back to the show..

   ..anyone else feeling ‘used’..?

   ..phillip ure..
10. greywarbler 10

    7 December 2013 at 2:41 pm

    Really interesting interview on Kim Hill radionz this a.m. On alcohol with a woman who became an alcoholic and has found out some important things about it. She is very frank and worth listening to – a nice person and to the point.

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday
    Ann Dowsett-Johnston : women and alcohol ( 35′ 28″ )
    09:05 Canadian writer, editor, and co-chair of advocacy group the National
    Roundtable on Girls, Women and Alcohol. Her latest book is Drink : The Intimate Relationship Between Women and Alcohol.

    Alao there is a kim hill interview on cannabis for those interested in how we are hdnling our mood uppers and downers.
    Hear Kim Hill’s interview with Steve Rolles, author of How to Regulate Cannabis: A Practical Guide in Great Encounters
    • Colonial Viper 10.1

      7 December 2013 at 3:02 pm

      practical and worthwhile. Grounded in real experience.
11. chris73 11

    7 December 2013 at 3:11 pm

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyyoung/100249157/i-have-seen-the-labour-future-and-it-doesnt-work-its-called-wales/

    – Interesting points
12. greywarbler 12

    7 December 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Just some bits from Dr Jam who I think is really Nury Vittachi.
    http://mrjam.typepad.com/
    My mentor/ bartender says there are four types of pay packet.
    1) The Christmas Gift Salary: You accept it gratefully but wish it happened more often.
    2) The Onion Salary: you open it and start weeping.
    3) The Letter Bomb Salary: You open it and your head flies off in shock.
    4) The Molecular Salary: You open the envelope and find yourself reaching for an electron microscope.

    ***

    Underpaid folk may enjoy this Buddhist-style joke.
    Dad enters son’s room to find him relaxing.

    DAD: You should be studying.
    SON: Why?
    DAD: You’ll get a good job.
    SON: Why would I want a good job?
    DAD: So you can earn a lot of money.
    SON: Why would I want to earn a lot of money?
    DAD: So you can have a good life, retire early and spend your days relaxing.
    SON: Right. That’s what I’m doing now.
    • Molly 12.1

      8 December 2013 at 8:06 am

      Similar to the apocryphal Mexican fisherman story.
13. logie97 13

    7 December 2013 at 4:43 pm

    In the Herald today we read some “experts” telling us why we are failing. When were Gluckman or Hattie last inside a classroom not to mention the rest of the academic and political experts?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11168352

    The time of this demise in standards would appear to match the introduction of a 4 x 10 week term into primary schools. From early in the 2nd and 4th terms the teaching would appear to be being put on hold while teachers do individual assessments in Reading and Maths (apparently these individual assessments can be very time consuming meaning the rest of the class are kept “busy”) and then the teacher sacrifices another couple of weeks writing reports on the children. All apparently in the interests of meeting ministry requirements. How wonderful it would be if the 40 weeks at school were actually devoted to learning. Any teachers out there might like to comment …
    • greywarbler 13.1

      7 December 2013 at 5:15 pm

      logie97
      I know that the teacher in my family is up to 11 pm many nights marking, writing, assessing, working out plans and is a dedicated teacher giving the kids a very rich educational background.

      She has had and other teachers also, problems with hard-driving fault-finding senior people in the school that she has had to defend herself against. The little hitlers that run some of the schools, and the mean board members are usually better at criticism and carping rather than positives for success and do not offer support to the lifeblood of the school, the teachers. Money is important but keen and staunch teachers are essential. In Dunedin St Columbas are having trouble over a principal and one went out and also in the Nelson region last year etc.

      An example that indicates the lack of respect and the depth of superciliousness was the shocking tale of Anne Tolley. A meeting of teachers was talked down to by her in 2009 playing a ‘prank’ reading them a children’s tale.
      The book, The Short and Incredibly Happy Life of Riley, said Riley the rat wanted some fruit “and maybe a couple of slugs” on Tuesday or Friday.
      “People, of course, want more than that, which is a shame because it is about all you need apart from a cup of tea and some toast and maybe not the slug,” the book had said.
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/3094162/Tolleys-rat-tale-shocks-teachers
14. Colonial Viper 14

    7 December 2013 at 6:52 pm

    Chris Hedges interviewed by Richard Wolff. If you’re in a class warfare mood, listen to this. “The ruling class always determines the configuration of rebellion.”

    And a main point: “what if the elite can’t respond rationally”?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys7B0tuHdBU
    • joe90 14.1

      7 December 2013 at 8:36 pm

      Responding rationally ….

      http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/05/state-conservative-groups-assault-education-health-tax

      http://www.juancole.com/2013/12/corrupt-country-world.html
    • North 14.2

      8 December 2013 at 10:46 am

      The Hedges interview……..chilling stuff the comment that the corporates “want” the billions the society expends in health and education.
15. Rodel 15

    7 December 2013 at 9:51 pm

    Oh Boy! Only four more sleeps before Banksy gets his come-uppance. His tearful appeals for sympathy are highly amusing to watch. And the other John’s reference to his being such a nice honest fellow. That’s a condemnation/ damnation in itself.
    Sympathy? Nah Not when I recall his endless nasty radio retard talk-back “communist” comments about my friend Helen which may have prompted the “ditch the bitch” posters around Auckland..
    Al Capone thought he was a benefactor to society too.
    RIP John. (P =prison)

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