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Open mike 09/07/2012

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 am, July 9th, 2012 - 136 comments
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136 comments on “Open mike 09/07/2012”

  1. muzza 1

    “I can’t quite believe it,” Mrs Johnson said. “I am so thrilled that the biscuits are back.

    “Nearly 15,000 people voted for the biscuit’s return after Upper Hutt mother Amber Johnson started a Facebook page titled Get Griffin’s To Bring Back Choco-ade”

    NZH, and the average Kiwi – Example of why progress is so difficult in this country!

  2. The odious Garth McVicar and the Sensible Sentencing Trust are going to review the Scott Guy Murder case.

    The interview (not on line yet) involved McVicar hinting darkly at the right to silence and how this is an impediment to the course of Justice.  There is one slight problem with this comment, Ewen McDonald spent hours talking to the police about the case.  This was all recorded and shown to the jury.  So not only did he not exercise his right to silence but he even admitted some offending to boot.

    He also hinted darkly at evidence being excluded and has promised the people of New Zealand a full review.

    The obvious tenor of McVicar’s comments was that justice demanded and required a result.  No matter how weak the Crown case was.

    • Sounds like more McVicar and the Sensible Sentencing Trust talking up false hopefor those who want a legal outcome (especially for victims), completely contrary to sound legal practice.

    • ad 2.2

      I hated the tone of unrestrained glee McVicar had on National Radio this morning.
      Like he had to wipe saliva off his mouth every second breath.

      Surely the right place for anything further would be a civil action?

      I can only expect after this he will be courted to stand by New Zealand First. Or National.

      • Populuxe1 2.2.1

        Amazing how quiet he was on the matter of his mate Graham Caphill’s trial, eh.

        • Olwyn 2.2.1.1

          Nor does he seem to have hung around outside the courthouse to court the Korean man who was run over by a white banker. And let us not forget his defense of the man who stabbed a little tagger to death in South Auckland. This guy is actually an opponent of sound legal practice, favouring an “us versus them” approach, and is very rarely called to account for it. Last night I saw an episode of 60 Minutes in which Greg king was interviewed (I cannot link it because it does not appear to be up yet). He was asked to account for himself every step of the way, which he did very ably. In comparison, McVicar is generally left free to rant against every principle upon which the legal system is based.

          • Dr Terry 2.2.1.1.1

            McVicar and his awful “Trust” are perpetually courted by the media for “expert opinion”, and thus unfortunately encouraged. I am sorry for any family that calls upon him for support (or did he foist himself upon them?) Believe it or not, true experts are available, if only people and media will seek them out.

            • Draco T Bastard 2.2.1.1.1.1

              Believe it or not, true experts are available, if only people and media will seek them out.

              The difference is that the true experts can’t afford to put themselves in the media as they’re actually doing important stuff with the limited funds they have. The SST’s funding is, on the other hand, almost entirely for massaging the media so that they get heard. Which means that when people do need expert help in criminal matters they go to the one they’ve heard of – the SST – which probably doesn’t have a single expert in it.

        • mike e 2.2.1.2

          pop or was that david garretts

    • Vicky32 2.3

      The odious Garth McVicar and the Sensible Sentencing Trust are going to review the Scott Guy Murder case.

      I heard about that on the radio this morning. What on earth? What does he think gives him the right?

      • Vicky32 2.3.1

        I just got told that I was guilty of some evil behaviour and had to do a recaptcha! Why? Please, this is the umpteenth time in  weeks, it’s needs fixing!

        • McFlock 2.3.1.1

          meh – I think it’s linking that does it. 
          Quite a good idea – it stops the robots adding spam links, although it doesn’t stop failed united future candidates…
           

      • Vicky32 2.3.2

        In fact right now, they’re on 3 News right now, claiming that McDonald was silent! I didn’t follow the trial as I was fed up with it right from the start, but I read above that he wasn’t silent so ???

  3. Peter Dunne had a chance to explain his (and United Future’s) position on asset sales on Q+A yesterday.

    SHANE TAURIMA

    Good morning, Peter Dunne. Thank you for joining us. You’ve been under a bit of fire lately for supporting the state asset sales. Was it a hard decision to mae?

    PETER DUNNE – United Future Leader

    No, it wasn’t. In fact, United Future and its policy as long ago as 2005, had said while we opposed wholesale asset sales, we were not against floating shares in selected state assets. We had the same policy in 2008, had the same policy in 2011. I enunciated it on the leaders debate in this very studio in 2011. So it was not a difficult decision to make. What’s been surprising, though, is that no one seemed to notice that we were honouring a policy commitment we put in place three years ago.

    SHANE You weren’t swayed by the polls, public opposition or indeed your electorate?

    PETER No. In fact, in every electorate meeting during the campaign, this issue was raised. I set out the position exactly as I intended to follow, what our policy was. I was re-elected with an increased majority. We concluded in our confidence and supply agreement statutory limitations. The National Party previously wasn’t in favour of putting into law the 51-49 10 split. That was put in the confidence and supply agreement. Utterly transparent and public. I’m one of these old fashioned people that believes that if you say something, you stand by your word. If you make an agreement, you keep it, and that’s exactly what I’ve done.

    News report, video and transcript: http://yournz.org/2012/07/09/peter-dunne-on-qa/

    • Pete George, the energizer bunny of the blogosphere who keeps going and going and going and going …

      This is a straw man argument Pete.  The basic problem is that under economic, financial, environmental and security of energy supply considerations this is a really stupid policy.  You can’t argue against that although you will probably try.

      Did the coiffured one promise hand on heart that no matter how stupid or ludicrous the privatisation proposal was he would back it no matter what?  If this is what you are saying then it is the dumbest policy ever support by a political party. 

      • ropata 3.1.1

        but micky, p.dunny knew asset sales was a shit policy and he is a hero for adding a tiny clause to the legislation. never mind the fact that his election campaign stated uf was against privatisation. the good folk of ohariu would all have read the uf small print, and thus they endorse the asset stripping of nz.

        • freedom 3.1.1.1

          cue PG with
          ‘ but but but but but but but but it is a Mixed Ownership Model! That’s not privatisation! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh why doesn’t anybody listen to me, oh and i want you all to know i am working hard on your behalf to change nothing in particular or achieve anything of any great importance but by gum i will let you know how difficult the challenges facing us are and if we all would just pull together and do exactly as i say then nothing will change but we will have lots of new ways to distract each other from the endless mountain of crap my efforts have created’

      • tc 3.1.2

        The coiffured one is effectively a NAT stooge just like Banks is and will do whatever he is told to do or lose the baubles of ministerial trappings, he has presided over the meanest and most dishonest government in memory who are selling us out with his support….say no more.

      • Bored 3.1.3

        PG sort of reminds me of Oscar Wilde on fox hunting (the unspeakable in pursuit of the uneatable)…perhaps the implausible in defense of the ingenuous. Any advances?

    • felix 3.2

      What a load of shit, Pete.

      I think the people have had far too much of politicians who say one thing before an election and then weasel word after it. In fact, I must be the only politician being criticised for keeping his word.”

      The lying prick knows full well, as you do, that his electioneering material was very carefully crafted to loudly and boldly proclaim ‘WE WILL NEVER SELL WATER, KIWIBANK, OR RADIO NZ’, while whispering softly ‘but everything else is on the block, and ps when I say water I’m not counting the water in the hydro system ie most of our water’.

      He’s not being criticised for keeping his word Pete, he’s being criticised precisely for weasel- wording. He’s a deceitful, manipulative weasel and a nasty piece of work.

      • ad 3.2.1

        I agree with everything you say.

        But a minor question for 2014: would you prefer Peter Dunne to sustain a Labour-Green coalition, or that guy from Mana?

        It may come to these odd choices.

        • marty mars 3.2.1.1

          I agree with felix too.

          If a slightly leftish coalition needs dunne it is fucked. Much better to work with a true left movement like Mana that will put some backbone into them and hopefully move any coalition lefter.

        • felix 3.2.1.2

          If it came to that I’d prefer Mana. I don’t like everything that comes out Harawira’s mouth but at least you know what you’re getting.

          And as marty says, any govt led by Labour will need its support parties pulling it leftward economically, not rightward, if it’s to achieve much.

          I have concerns about some of Harawira’s conservative views on social issues but there are plenty of liberal voices in Labour, the Greens, and even in his own party to counter that.

          • ad 3.2.1.2.1

            Just get ready to hold your nose either way when the time comes.

            Personally (because this morning I can forecast the future) I think we are heading for one of those 1996-type elections where the remaining minorities get to determine the fate of the larger parties’ reach for power.

            • marty mars 3.2.1.2.1.1

              which Mana policy gets up your nose ad or do you just dislike Hone?

            • McFlock 3.2.1.2.1.2

              FWIW I prefer to be offended by someone with principle rather than a pointless shill. The elevation in class just makes the entire experience more enjoyably visceral.

              • Ad

                God if only the majority in the Labour caucus thought like you. They don’t. Remember when Helen Clark spoke of the Maori party as “Not even last cab off the rank”?

        • mickysavage 3.2.1.3

          would you prefer Peter Dunne to sustain a Labour-Green coalition, or that guy from Mana?


          Good question Ad, I would prefer Hone any day of the week.  At least he works from well understood principles and has the interests of ordinary people at heart …

          • Pete George 3.2.1.3.1

            I’ll address ad’s question in detail later..

            • felix 3.2.1.3.1.1

              Which means ‘I’ll waffle about some other crap tangentially related to Ad’s question and see if I can slip in a few nasty snipes at Labour and the Greens’.

          • Anne 3.2.1.3.2

            +1 mickeysavage

            Remember when Helen Clark spoke of the Maori party as “Not even last cab off the rank”?

            Correct me if I’ve got it wrong Ad, but are you suggesting the Maori Party and the Mana Party are on an equal ideological footing? Although Helen Clark was savaged by all and sundry for her comment “the last cab off the rank”, time has proved she was 100% correct. The Maori Party have shown themselves to be nothing more than brown Tories who were/are happy to betray their own people for a few personal baubles and beads.

            IMO Hone Harawira’s stature has increased significantly since the formation of the Mana Party (the real Maori Party) and I note David Shearer has acknowledged as much in one or two recent comments. I think it is highly likely Labour would be happy to include the Mana Party in a Labour-led coalition government.

      • Pete George 3.2.2

        He’s not being criticised for keeping his word Pete, he’s being criticised precisely for weasel- wording. He’s a deceitful, manipulative weasel and a nasty piece of work.

        felix – but look at who’s criticising him. A few anonymous people on a blog. No evidence presented, just ‘opinions’ used in in attack that seemingly deliberately keep ignoring clear facts.

        The Q+A researchers would have been aware of what he would claim and prepared no challenge. Shane Taurima didn’t challenge it. Stuff haven’t challenged it:

        SUPPORT FOR SALES ‘GOES BACK THREE YEARS’

        Facing a highly organised campaign against him in his electorate, United Future leader Peter Dunne is understandably finding the focus on his support for the Government’s asset sales legislation a tad tiresome.

        When asked by TVNZ’s Q+A if voting for the Government’s mixed-ownership model was a difficult decision, he responded: “No, it wasn’t … what’s been surprising, though, is that no-one seemed to notice that we were honouring a policy commitment we put in place three years ago.”

        He said United Future had never opposed floating shares in some state assets.

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/7243462/Today-in-politics-Monday-July-9

        I asked a different Felix (Marwick) a while ago why the MSM weren’t interested in smear campaigns on blogs.

        I’m sorry to say there’d be limited news interest, if any, in the debates about the accuracy of comments made on political blogs. In this case Dunne’s position has been accurately represented in the media and that’s where it’ll have been most noticed.

        I’m sure more people are aware of Dunne’s position on asset sales via what’s been printed and broadcast in mainstream avenues than they’ve been influenced by whatever comments have been made by authors at The Standard.

        Continued claims of things like “deceitful, manipulative weasel and a nasty piece of works” are in a small echo chamber here and reflect more on those who keep making unsubstantiated accusations.

        • Te Reo Putake 3.2.2.1

          Mate, the only small echo chamber here is you. And if TS is so lacking in influence, how come you carpet bomb the threads here every day? And one more question. If UF was in favour of asset sales, why didn’t they campaign on it? As you know, the UF literature and TV ads were silent on it and Dunne only made a couple of vague references to the issue in the entire campaign. He dishonestly allowed the belief that his one man party was opposed to the sales, when he knew that his salary depended on them going through. The man’s a weasel and a humbug.

          • ad 3.2.2.1.1

            Quite an echo-chamber for the highest-rating progressive site in the country, number three or four on the table of any blogsite, and from what I hear of Labour’s caucus, feared by all those in caucus who ought.

          • Pete George 3.2.2.1.2

            On cue my point is supported. Thanks.

        • McFlock 3.2.2.2

          A less patsy question would be “surely your support for the National Party’s asset sales, as they announced prior to the election, is contrary to your repeated position of keeping national in check. Or did that just apply to things National weren’t going to do anyway?”

          • Pete George 3.2.2.2.1

            UF (with some help from The Standard) kept National in check exactly as we said we would. UF negotiated a C&S agreement on minimum ownership (51%), National actually changed it through a cabinet decision to voting rights only, and UF enforced the agreement and had it changed back to ownership

            http://yournz.org/2012/06/21/politicians-journalists-and-bloggers-fix-mom-bill/

            • McFlock 3.2.2.2.1.1

              Nice of Dunne to correct their grammar and punctuation for them. 
              Shame the essay is repulsive. 

              • felix

                Remember also that Dunne wanted any single overseas owner to be able to own 15% of the shares.

                The Nats, being apparently slightly less bloodthirsty than Dunne on this aspect of privatisation, managed to talk him down to 10%.

        • felix 3.2.2.3

          Pete, we’ve been over this plenty of times. Yes, if you look hard enough at the literal interpretation of the language you could conclude that Dunne supported privatising everything except water, kb, and rnz.

          The focus however was always on saving three particular assets, not on selling the rest of them. The way this was presented is the very definition of weasel wording.

          And I know you know this yourself, because it took you the best part of a day to find any references to his pro-privatisation policies when challenged.

          • Pete George 3.2.2.3.1

            The focus however was always on saving three particular assets, not on selling the rest of them.

            Ah, yeah, that’s because the United Future emphasis was on United Future policy. I think you’ll find other parties tend to promote their own policies most too.

            The reason why it took a while to find references was:
            – it wasn’t a full time job, I fitted it in when I could
            – there weren’t many references BECAUSE it was never an issue that was raised because it didn’t concern anyone then.

            PETER DUNNE: In fact, in every electorate meeting during the campaign, this issue was raised. I set out the position exactly as I intended to follow, what our policy was.

            I have never seen any credible dispute of this. Even Ohariu People’s Power accepted this as indisputable.

            If there was any evidence supporting your case don’t you think it would have been found and trumpeted loud and wide now?

            You continue repeating your argument against known evidence and with no evidence to support your case.

            You’re the one trying to weasel something out of nothing on this.

            • felix 3.2.2.3.1.1

              Pete, the evidence I’ve presented is the United Future campaign videos and print material. It is entirely consistent with everything I’ve said and you have entirely failed to even address my argument. Every time.

              And enough of the bullshit about you “fitting it in” when you could. We all watched you run around madly trying to find references. You were doing it here, in public. I’ll save you the embarrassment of posting a link for now but I don’t recommend repeating such an obvious lie so soon after the event.

              • We all watched you run around madly trying to find references.

                You’re making things up again felix. But it’s worth noting that I did find references. Something you have failed to do.

                Did you go to any of Dunne’s campaign meetings? Any campaign meetings where there was a UF candidate? I expect if you had and you had evidence to back up what you keep repeating about you would have said it by now. But all you have uis your ‘opinion’.

                I’m sure if Dunne was guilty of your accusations Charles Chauvel and Gareth Hughes would have been all over it, as would at least one Standard author.

                But there’s nothing. Nothing from the parties. Nothing from the mainstream media. Nothing except a few anonymous repeating commenters.

                • felix

                  I presented my evidence and my analysis and conclusions. If you disagree with my analysis then dispute the contentious aspects of it, dick.

        • felix 3.2.2.4

          ps I’m very pleased to learn that Pete George now considers posting on The Standard to be a waste of time and look forward to him backing up that opinion by fucking off forthwith and posthaste.

          • Pete George 3.2.2.4.1

            You’re making things up again felix. You’re again claiming something falsely or incorrectly.

            You seem to have some intelligence and are sometimes are very pedantic with specific meanings of phrases, so my opinion tends towards deliberate misrepresentation, it’s hard to see it any other way.

            It’s not a waste of time pointing this out.

            • McFlock 3.2.2.4.1.1

              pete continues yodelling in an echo-chamber…

              • he’ll probably do his version of bohemian rhapsody soon

                Is this the real life?
                Is this just fantasy?
                Caught in a landslide,
                No escape from reality
                Open your eyes,
                Look up to the skies and see,
                I’m just a poor boy, I need no sympathy,
                Because I’m easy come, easy go,
                Little high, little low,
                Any way the wind blows doesn’t really matter to
                me, to me

                • prism

                  marty mars
                  Any way the wind blows doesn’t really matter to
                  me, to me

                  It does if its a fart.
                  But I like your choice of verse. It’s a different way to being terse.

                  • McFlock

                    Commenting in rhyme
                     
                    Might be sublime, 
                       
                    But it’s not as cathartic
                       
                    As just abandoning concepts such as rhythm and style and just swearing at some fucking obtuse moronic trool.

            • felix 3.2.2.4.1.2

              Sure Pete.

              But if this place is just an echo chamber and nothing of any consequence happens as a result of anything written here, why bother correcting me?

              • Becasue you keep giving me the opportunity. Thanks.

                • felix

                  Wow. Sometimes I think you’re just taking the piss, but I’m beginning to wonder if you really aren’t aware of all these inherently contradictory statements you keep making.

                  How does it feel to willing spend so much time writing in a pointless meaningless echo chamber for no purpose?

          • prism 3.2.2.4.2

            “You’re making things up again felix.” Besides wishing for PGs absence, which would not make the heart grow fonder, can you think of some viable relief?

        • mike e 3.2.2.5

          Peters Groupie You can’t even get your idol’s facts right obviuosly you didn’t watch Q&A.
          Wait until I tell Dunny.
          Dunny said that he had been pushing that policy in ohairyu for the past 3 elections.
          Not 3 years .

  4. Bored 4

    Been off the air for a while….in which time I contemplated a number of mindsets that keep the rank and file in line with received wisdom no matter how unreal it is.

    I saw a bit of Max Keiser on a MSM hosted talk show being accused of being a “ conspiracy theorist” for pointing out the very obvious fraudulent behavior of the Wall St bankers. Labeling somebody a conspiracy theorist is the ultimate smokescreen for the avoidance of reality by the mainstream media. And Joe Average is so bloody dumb he takes the easy route of not questioning but agreeing. Its a form of abrogation of personal responsibility to question: political power certainly does not want Joe questioning.

    Then there is the pukesome Godwin crap. I see a f**scist yet I cant call them on it. Give me a break.

    • muzza 4.1

      Yes, it seems that the only defense for the establishment is to use the CT call as some sort of way to throw the sheep off the scent, it seems to be working still, and the message was obviously given to Key, as he used the term multiple times of late.

      The Keiser comments are interesting in that it shows explicitly who is really pulling the strings in the background. The cross over of finance and media working together to label as a, conspiracy theorist, Max Keiser, for commentating on the crumbling financial systems, the destruction ofwhich is the result of the greatest conspiracy every being pulled off. The irony of the MSM comments are immense, not to mention the hypocracy!

      Keiser did not “invent” the stories, they are in fact happening in real time. People who use the term conspiracy theory, lack the intelligence, and or the mental strength/self esteem, to question what is in front of their face.

  5. Tiger Mountain 5

    Jeez, various site statistics at the Standard blog hardly portray a “small echo chamber” Pete, quite the reverse.

    The obsequious Dunne will not be judged well in history by many New Zealanders for his sell out self serving actions.

    • To clarify – The Standard is a significant and significantly sized forum, the largest catering for mainly leftish views.

      The “small echo chamber” comment refers to a vocal but small subset of The Standard commentariat.

      • McFlock 5.1.1

        So it’s a small echo chamber in a large forum?
             
        Wouldn’t that make it a cone of silence?

      • Lanthanide 5.1.2

        “The “small echo chamber” comment refers to a vocal but small subset of The Standard commentariat.”

        Given that something like less than 1% of readers actually comment, it doesn’t matter if it’s only a “small vocal subset” of people that post any particular content here, because there’s a large readership.

        Surely that’s why you keep peddling your crap here. Although I would hope that a lot of readers do what I do and skim, or skip, your comments entirely.

      • mickysavage 5.1.3

        Petey, Petey, Petey, Petey …
         
        Your original comment this morning has generated considerable response that essentially can be categorised into two different types:
         
        1.  The coiffured one may have well indicated support for MOM type privatisation but this does not mean he had to sign up to every single MOM privatisation proposal, especially the really silly ones.
         
        2.  There may have been this policy in the fine print but whenever the coiffured one spoke he made it sound like he was against privatisation of strategically important assets.  He then turns lap dog and lets them go through.
         
        You as a self confessed opponent of “politics as usual” and talk about “smear tactics” but then denigrate various commentators, presumably including myself, as being part of a “small echo chamber” suggesting that their thoughts are not their own without addressing their concerns.
         
        See the problem?

        • Pete George 5.1.3.1

          The problem is micky – you’ve got it wrong. You’re a part of the small echo chamber here that keeps peddling misinformation that isn’t taken seriously elsewhere.

          The more you do it the more you confirm your own futility. Important people in Labour don’t even push your lines.

          Can’t you try something that will actually help Labour rebuild and prepare for government? Surely that’s a party priority?

          • McFlock 5.1.3.1.1

            Surely you should direct your petey powers of polling perspicacity towards helping United Future achieve 1% at election time? Oh, you did. How did that go for you?

            • Pete George 5.1.3.1.1.1

              UF maintained the same number of seats and gained influence from the last election. How did that go for Labour?

              I’d like to see UF support increase next time, I think that would add to the balance of parties in parliament.

              I’d also like to see Labour get their act together and build a viable capability towards running the next government from 2014 or 2017 – that’s far more important for the country as a whole. So I have an interest in that too. Do you think I shouldn’t?

              • McFlock

                Labour did about 20 or 30 times better than UF, even with a reduction in support.
                            
                If anything, I think that your “interest” should be monitored as sort of a reverse pit-canary: as soon as you start extensively approving of anything controversial Labour does, they should immediately apologise and reverse course. As long as you keep providing helpful advise on how Labour should change to improve its popularity, they can’t be too far wrong.

                • Colonial Viper

                  If anything, I think that your “interest” should be monitored as sort of a reverse pit-canary

                  Same as if the NBR, John Armstrong or Fran O’Sullivan start praising Labour and its policies as being “pragmatic”, “realistic”, “sensible” and “moderate”.

                  • McFlock

                    I do recall an Alliance comrade saying that he really knew Lab4 was off the rails when the ODT started running positive editorials about their economic policies.

                  • gareth

                    Meanwhile… over at kiwiblog… Pete finally admits that he’s proper right wing….

                    “Of all the commenters here DPF would be as close as just about anyone to my views and aims”

                    • Ah, but of Labour politicians I think I’m closest to David Shearer. I’d rate Kevin Hague and Julie Anne Genter, amongst those in the Greens I’ve had anything to do with. And I like Pita Sharples. I’d be happy to work with any of them.

                      Make what you want of that.

                    • felix

                      I make that you’re delusional.

                    • McFlock

                      What about current MPs excluding Dunne?

                    • gareth

                      So bearing that in mind, if you sat in a room with say Farrah, Shearer, Hauge, Genter & lets throw Key in there too, which would be as close as just about anyone to your views and aims?

              • “I have an interest in that too”

                Do you see yourself in Parliment as a labour member pete?

                • I think it’s unlikely I’ll be in Parliament with any party.

                  When I decided to get more into politics I first approached Labour. After initial contact I volunteered some outside real world experience and they didn’t get back to me.

                  I doubt I’ll join Labour unless they change their approach substantially, and I doubt I’m the sort of person they’d chose as a candidate, I’ve got too much practical life and business experence.

                  I certainly wouldn’t fit into the current Labour culture of being a negative talking point repeater.

                  • McFlock

                    I certainly wouldn’t fit into the current Labour culture of being a negative talking point repeater.

                     
                    A typically hypocritical statement.

                  • You are such a crack up Pete.

                    Hate to break it to you but your inability to argue and your rather strange world views would not get you within a million miles of a Labour party nomination. You are right that you are not the sort of person who would be chosen as a candidate.

                    As for “being a negative talking point repeater” you should read this and hundreds of other threads you have strangled the life out of and then reconsider your statement.

                  • North

                    Pete George; “I’ve got too much practical life and business experience.”

                    What a hoot ! You do have too much pomposity, too much passive aggression, and too much of a view of the wonder of you. That’s about it though Petey.

                    • McFlock

                      lol – I just saw his line:
                         

                      When I decided to get more into politics I first approached Labour. After initial contact I volunteered some outside real world experience and they didn’t get back to me. 

                       

                      I suspect he was correctly identified as waaaaaaay outside the real world, hence their lack of follow-up. “oh noes, I accidentally lost his phone number”[rips paper into very small pieces]

              • mike e

                Peters Groupie you are obviously trying to grease up the labour party so the follicle freaks can have another MP outside cabinet with the remuneration that goes with it.
                PGroupie.
                You could change the name of your party to .
                P ontificating
                U nbridled
                F uckwits &
                F ools&
                E ndangered
                R idiculed
                Y awns

              • felix

                “UF maintained the same number of seats and gained influence from the last election.”

                Bullshit. He maintained the same number of seats from the election and maintained precisely the same amount of influence from the post-election negotiations, not from the election.

                ps for all this supposed influence you’ve still never listed all the awesome things he’s achieved (things that National weren’t going to do anyway) and you’ve still never listed all the Govt bills that he’s voted against, despite being asked several times.

                Probably close to zero in both cases, but set the record straight anytime you like.

                • McFlock

                  nononononono felix, Dunne stamped his foot over the typo in the asset sales after other people had pointed it out.

                • There were two bills in the last week that parliament sat that I’m aware of that Dunne supported and National didn’t:
                  – Phil Twyford’s depleted uranium bill
                  – David Clark’s holiday Mondayisation bill

                  But I don’t follow every vote. Do you? Or are you making things up again based on no facts?

                  From the Q+A interview:

                  …my crystal ball doesn’t tell me where other parties are going to be on these issues. So I don’t factor into the decision, and I can’t, actually, whether my vote will be the determining one or not. What I have to do is decide what is the right course for me as the United Future member of Parliament to follow.

                  And this is what happens in my experience, when I ask him whether he will support a bill or not he openly considers it in association with UF policy. Not with the policy of any other party.

          • mickysavage 5.1.3.1.2

            I am still trying to work out Petey if you are a terribly sophisticated CT plant receiving advice from CIA and Kremlin experts in propaganda and misinformation or if you actually believe what you type …

            You are an expert at running away from a debate and then making out as if it is everyone’s elses fault. Such expertise is either evidence of very sophisticated training or evidence that you exist in a different dimension to the rest of us.

            You still did not answer my original proposition, nor Felix’s. Yet you accuse us of peddling misinformation. How does that work?

            And I am curious, which of my lines is Labour not pushing? I would prefer that you answer my first question first though. Just to show that you are actually interested in engaging in a proper debate and not doing politics as usual …

            • Pete George 5.1.3.1.2.1

              I didn’t think your first question justified an answer, it was a very dumb question.

              Did the coiffured one promise hand on heart that no matter how stupid or ludicrous the privatisation proposal was he would back it no matter what? If this is what you are saying then it is the dumbest policy ever support by a political party.

              Not to my knowledge – it’s a stupid suggestion.

              And I haven’t said anything like that.

            • Tiger Mountain 5.1.3.1.2.2

              Oh for another PFD–Pete Free Day.

              Maybe PG has been inspired by CERN findings and imagines himself a ‘quantum commenter’, squiggling about, able to be in two or more places at once.

      • mike e 5.1.4

        Pete’s Groupie Dunne’s groupie.Pontificating Guile .
        Your leaving no room for any one else’s opinion.
        You haven’t learned that less is more when it comes to politics.

  6. john72 6

    Does the youth of New Zealand understand what Austerity is?
    When food is controlled by a Ration Book. Petrol is rationed. Clothing is either rationed or just not available. Many people are dependant on Rain Water, collected from the house roof.
    Our standard of living has improved tremendously over the last 100 years but where does one “draw the line”? We cannot all lead the life of an English Gentleman. Someone has to play the part of a servant.

    The envious will never be happy.

    • I agree john72, but it’s not just the ‘youth of New Zealand’ who have no idea what austerity or real hardship is. I think I have a better idea about it but my generation (baby boomers) is the first of the lucky generations so it’s just based on what I’ve learned from previous generations.

      Life is still tough for many people, even some in New Zealand, but relative to the past we’ve never had things so good – and possibly never appreciated what we do have so little.

    • Jenny 6.2

      Someone has to play the part of a servant.

      john72

      I take it guvnor, that you are not volunteering for the role?

    • McFlock 6.3

      Actually, no.
      “Austerity” is when there is more than enough food, but most people can’t afford it.
      “Rationing” is when the government ensures that nobody gets more than their fair share, so as few people as possible miss out.
                
      Issues like child welfare and inequality aren’t races, where you’ve done well if you get a podium finish. They’re issues of constant self-improvement, like maintaining an ideal weight or exercising or minimising the sodium in your diet if that’s an issue. Why do we care? 1: they are bad. 2: like obesity or smoking, if they go on too long they fester in society and cause heart failure and collapse.
             
      Maybe it was worse in your day. Not the issue. The issue is that it’s worse in our day: we can do much better, but we just don’t care. Like a diabetic gorging on chocolate eclairs. 

    • Uturn 6.4

      When food is controlled by a Ration Book. Petrol is rationed. Clothing is either rationed or just not available. Many people are dependant on Rain Water, collected from the house roof.

      Sounds like life as a labourer in rural NZ. Long hours working outside, but work somewhat blends into life in general (because natural systems don’t listen to or attract people with flow charts and arbitrary deadlines); wages aren’t so great, so food is rationed by budget, so is petrol and because of wage levels and relative isolation, so are clothes. Water supply is from tanks filled by rain off the roof. Cost of trucking extra in over a dry summer often isn’t an option. Workplace employment laws and law in general doesn’t extend to them. It’s a melange of applied cultural beliefs and the wishes of the local “gentry”. Forget the expectation of medical assistance, unless you’re already half dead.

      Lots of people live like this and they’re young. It’s all they’ve ever known. So I don’t know what the envy comment is about. Maybe it’s you who is envious of the resources of Yoof who could make you richer at their expense, but choose not to? The greedy are never happy.

      • prism 6.4.1

        Uturn It’s good to hear things spelt out like this and probably many farming people don’t know how bad it is for many of the workers, or choose not to know. Certainly townies don’t.

        Have you read about the Tolpuddle Martyrs in South England. They were tried for setting up a farm workers union on a dodgy bit of law that wouldn’t have succeeded but for the fact that the law, the landed gentry and the church were united against them. There was fire in the bellies of poor people then trying to improve their lot and they massed with huge crowds and collected funds to bring them back, all alive, from their convict sentence in Australia.

        I have had a lurking feeling for some time that it is a whole different ‘lifestyle’ for the low income in the rural areas. And I noticed that the roads there seem to be used mainly by young men a lot of whom seem to be loose cannons. Certainly there are a lot of road accidents usually after drugs, alcohol etc. Life there seems a bit brutish.

        I have read about marjuana being grown with vicious defence traps, but not lately. I have read about a farmer who had been robbed and for a second time some years later, took a pot shot and found that the second burglary was by the original perp who had gone to Australia, returned and gone back to stock up. He was wearing some of the farmer’s stolen clothes apparently. That was a while ago. I don’t think things have changed much, probably got worse but we aren’t hearing about it.

        I have read about a man who had a project that he was spending time on, but every time he left his property parts of it were stolen. Theft like this means that you can’t create anything, make anything. It’s killing to improving your conditions and any initiative.
        I have read about growing rustling. In the recent Guy case, Macdonald had been rustling deer, and what else? There is a nice comfy feeling about how helpful farmers are to each other and how they will come forward for neighbours in difficulties. But what do you do about neighbours or nearbys that are stealing from you? There are the good things but possibly just the obvious tip of an iceberg with depths of dishonesty or danger.
        There isn’t much of a police presence for farmers, and I don’t think they have a good service at all, because there is such a weight of work on one or two officers it could be that rural people just don’t make formal complaints to them.

        Is there a rural underclass that is growing quietly like mushrooms and is only noticed briefly when there is some bad outbreak? Such as the recent theft from tourists, who were fortunate they weren’t female (would they have been raped and perhaps then killed as has happened to other decent, trusting females expecting to be travelling in a civilised country). And perhaps women in particular should be warned about past happenings.
        The outback of Australia has some feral males floating around who have committed awful crimes, and I thought we had higher standards but I’m not sure now.

      • Fortran 6.4.2

        Uturn

        Sounds like Britain during the second World War.
        I know – I lived with it in London – and we were healthier as a result.

      • Bored 6.4.3

        Thanks UTurn for stating it how it is: I noted reading Trotters Bowalley Rd on the Guy trial that there is definitely an excessive rural income divide between farm owners and labourers (or so Trotter claims). He makes the point that the whole us/ them divide makes for ugly societal impacts.

        Myself, I regularly employ people, every time I do its a million c.v’s, from sub 25 years olds, most of whom are in “training” (studying to be something they will never do and being saddled with a debt for the benefit of doing so) OR are working a part time minimum wage go nowhere job.

        Meanwhile the “greedies” from Labour seem to think it would be a good idea to not pay superannuation for a couple of years till people are 67 because (with no evidence to support it) “we cannot afford it. Who are the “we” Mr Shearer?

        • prism 6.4.3.1

          Bored
          And about that 65 to 67 years gap before the old age pension. If these older people can’t get a job that supports them fully, or can only do part-time work, or no work at all then the government should be paying them out of another benefit category, the unemployment or minimum income fund. That means that the government must afford it or have people begging even dying on the street.

          And things got that way after Nats Ruth Richardson introduced her new slimmed down benefits and hospitals were turned into CHEs paring service centres. I seem to remember that someone was in hospital, their bed was needed so they were sent home by taxi about midnight and left by the side of the road. I think a woman had her baby by the road, or in a bus, which could always happen but is not the service we want for our vulnerable people. And poor people die before their time under the bean-counting approach to humanity.

          If on unemployment these older people will have to abase themselves to these brutalised people in WINZ offices and possibly be ordered to attend courses to learn skills that if they didn’t know already, it would be too late to teach them. And then there are the draconian controls of the enemployed benefit (a Freudian slip – combining enemy and unemployed which is how attitudes are developing towards the strugglers). They need to be available to look for a job all the time, looking for a job becomes their job, yet they can’t go on holiday without asking permission which may not be granted. Particularly if your children have gone to Australia. You may have scrimped enough to get there but you have removed yourself from the job market. If your children sent you the fare and you went anyway, that money could be counted as increased income and your benefit docked to that amount. And you are registered as leaving the country when you go through the check-in so the Department finds out, and could stop your benefit. This system, allegedly caring for the low income, is equivalent to home detention though less rigid than for criminals and certainly not the treatment of the retired that is envisaged by the better off.

          This is how I understand the system from anecdote and some personal experience. If someone knows differently or has an experience that sheds light on the benefit for older people, it would be interesting to read.

          • Bored 6.4.3.1.1

            All sounds so familiar Prism. You get shitted on as you begin your working career, indebted up to the eyeballs with a useless “degree”. You work at Makkers to pay off that sum on minimum wages, then when your body gives out on you there is an expectation that an extra couple of years can be dragged out of you….St Peter dont you call me cos I cant go, I owe my soul to the company store” syndrome.

            The real issue at hand is the failure of the economic system to provide sufficient jobs, and sufficient wage levels. In this country we generate sufficient wealth to do both, the problem we have is that we just seem far too good at distributing this wealth to the wrong people. My business’ market is shrinking because the amount of consumption drops with the number of people unemployed and the lower rates of pay: the corporate sector (including government) are buying business or overcharging my sector. Consequently I don’t employ as many people as I could.

            Which is why I gave Shearer and Labour a serve: to blindly retort failed shibboleths of some Right wing think tank rather than addressing the real issues indicates Labour are still arse about face.

          • Vicky32 6.4.3.1.2

            If on unemployment these older people will have to abase themselves to these brutalised people in WINZ offices and possibly be ordered to attend courses to learn skills that if they didn’t know already, it would be too late to teach them

            That’s sort of where I am now, although I have not yet turned 60… inasmuch as I’ve been informed that I have only a 20% chance of getting an office job because of my age (the leader of a course WINZ referred me to, told me that.) 
            I have the skills, I don’t have the yoof or the looks that are apparently required by any woman seeking an office job!
            (Neither do I have leukaemia, which is another, weirder story.)

    • Draco T Bastard 6.5

      Many people are dependant on Rain Water, collected from the house roof.

      Um, so?

      We cannot all lead the life of an English Gentleman. Someone has to play the part of a servant.

      No we can’t and no we don’t. Only have to have servants in a dictatorial hierarchy.

      The envious will never be happy.

      As we keep pointing out: It’s not envy but pure, unadulterated, disgust with the greedy smucks whom you seem to worship.

  7. prism 7

    There is an interesting juxtaposition of offerings on Radionz this a.m . At 10.45 there is a serial play on the beneficiary getting into work by starting your own business thing. Very funny.

    And Alex Mackay, who has just published a cookbook is a chef who talks at express train speed. Cookbook for Everybody, Everyday, published by Bloomsbury about $45.
    His career was the result of hard work, and looking for opportunities and taking them. Being able to express yourself well would count too. He had to leave school voluntarily or the other way. So he got started as a dishwasher in restaurants here and ended up going to France on a one way ticket. At one place he worked he was in charge of pastry, left after everyone else and no transport home, a hotel four miles away was the only bed he could get, so had to walk there. Hotel was locked up so he had to climb over the garden wall and up to his second storey bedroom. Good story, whether it’s true. He certainly has Drrive.

    Also at http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon
    11:45 Off The Beaten Track with Kennedy Warne
    The latest offering in the NZ Cycle Trails network – the Motu Trails, in the Bay of Plenty, which opened a couple of months ago. There are three interconnecting trails that take a rider between Opotiki on the coast and Matawai in the Raukumara Range.
    Also have a look on the site at this beautiful bridge – Newly opened Pakowhai suspension bridge over the Otara River, Opotiki.

  8. Draco T Bastard 8

    A great pic of the Martian landscape.

    • McFlock 8.1

      Either that or national’s wet dream about conservation land :)
         
      Good snap though 

    • bad12 8.2

      I am always intrigued by pics of the red planet, specially the one a while back of what looked like a human type figure running among rocks on the Planet Mars, (perhaps one of the underground inhabitants caught out-side),

      Whats amusing is that we seem to know what makes up the Mars ‘atmosphere’ and soil types around the ‘voyager’,

      It would seem a reasonably bright suggestion to attempt to recreate the same enviroment in a dome like structure here on Earth so as to be able to test what trees, plants, crops, might grow on Mars,

      If something indicates under such an experiment that it might grow up there then perhaps they should be bombing the place with seeds, such in 1000 years may just go a little toward making the place habitable…

      • ‘human type figure’

        Na, was just a rock formation

      • McFlock 8.2.2

        There are ethical issues, as well as practical.
             
        Mars atmospheric pressure is much less that the pressure at which human blood boils – i.e.  the pressure at twice the altitude of everest. And it’s pretty cold much of the time, too. So it won’t be Earth’s grain basket.
             
        On the ethical flipside, there might still be enough water etc for bacteria to grow (not to mention the minute possibility of large subterranean life forms), and of course any seed bombardment could result in either of two “worst case scenarios”: the eradication of unique life forms; or outbreaks of untreatable alien diseases or even triffids. Either one is a bad outcome.
            
        Not to mention the “climate change / peak oil will make it all futile!” perspective. Not entirely sure where I go to on that one yet.
           
        Basically we’re probably looking at at least 100 years of exploration and  technology development (e.g. ion boosters or similar funky engines for inner-system navigability) to determine A) what’s there; B) what was once there; and C) if B is nothing lifelike or unpreservable, is there any point to putting anything there, anyway?

        • TheContrarian 8.2.2.1

          Anyone seen Mission to Mars? Fucking hilarious. One of the main characters spends a year living on Mars in a tent, flapping in the breeze, which he survives because he had plants.

          • McFlock 8.2.2.1.1

            Did they do the cunning hollywood get-around-the-laws-of-physics-with-one-line-of-dialogue ruse? A quick “lucky the pressure gauges on every single probe we sent here were wrongly calibrated, eh”?

          • felix 8.2.2.1.2

            One of the main characters spends a year living on Mars in a tent

            More or less in real time from what I can remember of that soporific bit of cinema.

            • TheContrarian 8.2.2.1.2.1

              I only went because it had Brian De Palma’s name attached as director.

              The worst thing about the whole movie was when a couple of friends and I decided “fuck it, lets go” so we stood up and the credits started rolling. Man, I felt gypped. 

    • Vicky32 8.3

      A great pic of the Martian landscape.

      Gorgeous! Wow, thanks…

  9. BEWARE!

    MINORITY NATIONAL GOVERNMENT WANTS TO RAILROAD THROUGH CHANGES TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT ACT TO FURTHER SUIT CORPORATE INTERESTS!!

    Here’s your chance to have your say!

    PUBLIC MEETING: Botany MP Jami-Lee Ross’ public meeting is at 7pm on July 10 at Pakuranga Country Club, 199 Botany Road.

    THINK THE AUCKLAND SUPERCITY IS A SUPER RIPOFF?

    AGREE THAT THE ‘BOOKS SHOULD BE OPEN’ AND CITIZENS SHOULD GET THE ‘DEVILISH DETAIL’ ABOUT HOW MUCH PUBLIC MONIES ARE BEING SPENT ON ‘CORPORATE WELFARE’ (on consultants and private contractors – whose contracts have not been subject to any ‘cost-benefit’ analysis??

    “RATEPAYERS deserve assurances that councils are spending their money wisely on services that matter to them, says Botany MP Jami-Lee Ross.”
    http://www.times.co.nz/news/mp-explains-law-change.html

    Submissions on The Local Government Act 2002 Amendment Bill close on July 26. Botany MP Jami-Lee Ross’ public meeting is at 7pm on July 10 at Pakuranga Country Club, 199 Botany Road.

  10. WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE LOCAL GOVT ACT?

    Here you go….

    http://www.dia.govt.nz/pubforms.nsf/URL/RISBetterLocalGovernment-signed.pdf/$file/RISBetterLocalGovernment-signed.pdf

    Penny Bright
    ‘Anti-corruption campaigner’
    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

  11. Sam Hall 11

    In local paper explanation given by MSD insider via txt that half desks at winz office empty on a given workday due to morale and stress-related issues.hmmm.

    Hello U-turn, prism, dtb olwyn drt bored et al. I sorta missed your thoughts but at the time weighed up the benefits of having a wee caesure from the aggression on the blog between some posters. Dogs, fleas and all that.

    Never a dull moment watching the impending societal train-wreck though.

    Saw this Hong Kong Chinese gentleman on BBC with thousands of accumulated or repatriated Chinese art at his property. Leaning here and there were pieces “valued” at 500m stirling etc.

    And that was just one of the new chinese wealthy. Im glad I ceased to measure anything about myself by the rulers I have bought or traded for in the “market”.

    The chinese and other east asian ubercapitalists are gonna eat up and spit out our local grass-reared capitalists all over their paddy fields and coal mine tailings.

    Ol western whitey and his colonised adherents are wising up to the neccessity of “political” “relationships” to do “business” with the mass of mainland china.

    The ol proddy scot wont wanna be puttin his hand too deep into the other mans pocket..

    • prism 11.1

      Sam Hall Sounds possible even probable. But Dr Feelgood says don’t think of more than one negative future scenario a day to ensure your mojo keeps alive!

  12. captain hook 12

    penny bright.
    did you listen to MIke Williams and Stephen Franks this morning on 9-noon.
    Franks admitted that wodney had drawn up the akl super city plan on the back of an envelope and what has happened now is that elected councillors are left out of the loop.
    the departments now consider they dont have to give info to councillors and the only one with any say is the mayor.
    Our whole democracy is descending into the post modern equivcalent of the inferno and alice and wonderland combined.
    those fuckers have gone crazy with power and they have diverted all avenues of disclosure so that they are sealed off from the gaze of their employers.Thats you and me and all other ratepayers.
    Whats needed now is transparency.
    But hey it used to be but now it has been taken away.
    what the fuck is going on in Godzone.

  13. bad12 13

    The economic recovery is upon us, well nah if you want to consider Trademe as an economic indicator things have gone from really bad to really f**king bad,

    Paula Benifit is wont to chastise us all with Trademe job figures, (that’s probably coz Paula has trouble with the more complicated household labour survey),

    Does appear tho that employment ads on Trademe are UP like mega-big-time, but only IF you either live or are planning on shifting to Christchurch,

    Job ads on the same web-site show Auckland is down 4% and Wellington down a massive 7%, who would have thunk that the Slippery led National Government could have wrought such an economic miracle in such a short time,

    The score so far, 2 F’s, the government gets a failed and the economy is even more f**ked…

    • McFlock 13.1

      How long has Trademe been doing job ads? I know it’s been a while, but I’m wondering if it’s still in the growth phase as a job exchange, as opposed to say W&I or newspaper classifieds (although similarly the latter in particular might be going down with the ship)

      • bad12 13.1.1

        I couldn’t say how long Trademe has been running job ads for, what i do know is that a large % of the advertised jobs on there are filled within a week but advertised for a month,

        So using Trademe as economic data as Paula Benifit is wont to do is just another form of National Government mis-information, (there’s 8000 jobs advertised on Trademe you know), further demonizing the unemployed in the eyes of those without the intelligence to understand how such a site works,

        When liars like Paula use such figures of 8000 jobs listed on Trademe , at any given time only 3000 of those jobs are vacant with the lower skilled vacancies the first to be filled and the brain surgeon types jobs staying vacant the longest,

        As a raw data source of jobs advertised over a period tho, Trademe is possibly an easy mode of charting economic progress, or in the case of the latest figures, economic regression…

    • QoT 13.2

      I had a go at Patrick Gower when he pulled that crap. It was deeply disappointing (especially since he had the sheer gall to *add together* the number of “vacancies” on TM and Seek like they were mutually exclusive listings), but also kinda screamed “guess which journo hasn’t had to seriously look for work in a while?”

  14. ropata 14

    The market says: Everything and everybody has a price, and is for sale. Faith says: The most valuable things in our lives — good health, safe food, strong families, a clean environment, a just economy, meaningful work, access to opportunity — are beyond price, and should by right be available to us all. Our faith communities (especially, but not always exclusively, the progressive ones) have always held this light up within our culture, and it’s never been needed more than it’s needed right now.

    [In America,] where over 90% of everybody has some kind of God-belief — and the overwhelming majority of them ground their political decisions in that belief — abandoning the entire landscape of faith to the right wing amounts to political malpractice. For most Americans, our religious worldviews are the epistemological soil in which every other decision we make is rooted — the basic model of reality that we use to navigate the world. When we stopped engaging people’s basic model of moral order, we effectively ceded the entire moral landscape of the nation to our enemies. It was, in retrospect, perhaps the most self-destructive error we’ve made over the past 40 years (and that’s saying something).

    To our credit, a lot of our best organizers and activists are starting to realize the magnitude of this mistake. We’re paying a lot more attention these days to learning to clearly articulate progressive values, to express ourselves in explicitly moral language, and to put forward more strongly progressive frames, narratives, and future visions to counter the bankrupt conservative worldview that’s brought us to this sorry place in history.

    Alternet: Six Reasons We Can’t Change The Future Without Progressive Religion

    • Vicky32 14.1

      The market says: Everything and everybody has a price, and is for sale. Faith says: The most valuable things in our lives — good health, safe food, strong families, a clean environment, a just economy, meaningful work, access to opportunity — are beyond price, and should by right be available to us all

      Awesome Ropata! Thanks so much..

  15. The Government spends all its energy trying to “fix” education when it isn’t broken and ignores a real crisis! http://localbodies-bsprout.blogspot.co.nz/2012/07/housing-crisis-demands-immediate-action.html

  16. rosy 16

    So, weather/climate people… what’s with the jet stream moving south being the blame for the UK’s exceedingly wet summer? I get that this is true, but is it climate or weather and is it a ‘normal’ shift? What makes a jet stream shift? If it’s moved south I guess this is also to blame for an exceedingly warm early summer in central Europe?

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    Student leaders around New Zealand will meet in two weeks to discuss the future of student representation after the decision made last week by the Victoria University Students’ Association (VUWSA) to give one year’s notice terminating their membership of the...
    Tertiary Education Union | 01-10
  • Collective agreements get more pay rises
    Does it pay for you to be on a collective agreement rather than an individual agreement, asks CTU economist Bill Rosenberg? The evidence available suggests that yes, workers on collective agreements get bigger and more frequent pay rises. They may...
    Tertiary Education Union | 01-10
  • Maybe you’re not cut out for this kind of work
    I attended a great buddies wedding in the bay of islands recently. It was everything […] The post Maybe you’re not cut out for this kind of work appeared first on Connected....
    Potentia | 01-10
  • Maybe you’re not cut out for this kind of work
    I attended a great buddy’s wedding in the Bay of Islands recently. It was everything […] The post Maybe you’re not cut out for this kind of work appeared first on Connected....
    Potentia | 01-10
  • 2014 – Ongoing jobless tally
    . . Continued from: 2013 – Ongoing jobless tally So by the numbers, for this year, January OceanaGold/Macraes Mine: 146 redundancies Fitzroy Yachts: 100 redundancies OceanaGold: 76 redundancies Tenix: 15 redundancies February Goodman Fielder: 125 redundancies Pacific Steel Group: 70-90 redundancies...
    Frankly Speaking | 01-10
  • 2014 – Ongoing jobless tally
    . . Continued from: 2013 – Ongoing jobless tally So by the numbers, for this year, January OceanaGold/Macraes Mine: 146 redundancies Fitzroy Yachts: 100 redundancies OceanaGold: 76 redundancies Tenix: 15 redundancies February Goodman Fielder: 125 redundancies Pacific Steel Group: 70-90 redundancies...
    Frankly Speaking | 01-10
  • Media malice
    There has been a lot of talk, over on the Standard and elsewhere, about media bias.  The election was lost because of it.  Cunliffe's leadership ruined because of it.  The Scottish independence referendum lost because of it.  The media are...
    Left hand palm | 01-10
  • How to Create a Divided Society: New Plymouth’s Maori Seat
    Last week New Plymouth District Council opted to create a Maori ward for the next local government election. That means local Maori who choose to go on a Maori-only role get to elect a representative directly to the council. Everybody...
    Gareth’s World | 01-10
  • Trickle Down Economics? No way. Rather it’s wealth capture by the sel...
    If You Look At One Graph About Inequality Look At This!Henning MeyerYou might have heard about recent reports stating that global inequality is decreasing. This is a nice example of constructing the comparison according to the result you would like to...
    the Irascible Curmudgeon | 01-10
  • A Study in Party Stability
    . In terms of long-term stability, one party above stands above all others, with the exception of personality-driven groups such as NZ First and United Future. That party is the Greens. If the Labour Party wants to look elsewhere for...
    Frankly Speaking | 01-10
  • A Study in Party Stability
    . In terms of long-term stability, one party above stands above all others, with the exception of personality-driven groups such as NZ First and United Future. That party is the Greens. If the Labour Party wants to look elsewhere for...
    Frankly Speaking | 01-10
  • PPTA’s EDUCANZ battle continues
    1 October 2014 The legislation around the government’s EDUCANZ body is so sloppy it is impossible to know what kind of monster will eventually be unleashed, says PPTA president Angela Roberts.This afternoon PPTA members voted to empower the association’s executive...
    PPTA | 01-10
  • AT’s surveillance system
    Concern erupted yesterday about whether Auckland Transport was going to by effectively spying on us all as part of a new surveillance system they are buying. Surveillance technology that uses high definition cameras and software that puts names to faces and...
    Transport Blog | 01-10
  • Deep thought vs Deep prejudice
    . . This letter to the editor appeared in The Listener, on 27 September, and caught my attention; . . Mr Dawson wrote in response to one of those typically unthinking comments which  condemned the poor for their “unbridled, reckless...
    Frankly Speaking | 01-10
  • Deep thought vs Deep prejudice
    . . This letter to the editor appeared in The Listener, on 27 September, and caught my attention; . . Mr Dawson wrote in response to one of those typically unthinking comments which  condemned the poor for their “unbridled, reckless...
    Frankly Speaking | 01-10
  • Limiting global warming to 2 °C – why Victor and Kennel are wrong
    In a comment in Nature titled Ditch the 2 °C warming goal, political scientist David Victor and retired astrophysicist Charles Kennel advocate just that. But their arguments don’t hold water. It is clear that the opinion article by Victor &...
    Real Climate | 01-10
  • New and Improved Ice Loss Estimates for Polar Ice Sheets
    In a previous post, several years ago, I discussed the various ways that we measure changes in the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets. Today, scientists still use these main methods for identifying ice changes but recent technological and data processing...
    Skeptical Science | 01-10
  • Crime Reporting Hides Reality
    The National Government has been clever at fudging data and hiding unwanted statistics. It has refused to measure the extent of child poverty, stopped independent environmental reporting and while there has been some worrying crime statistics, we only hear of...
    Local Bodies | 01-10
  • What Labour needs to hear: the 4th voice
    As he pops back and forth between New Zealand and the Pacific Islands, Shane Jones must look on himself as the luckiest of the three men who took part in the Labour leadership race just a scant 12 months ago.read...
    Pundit | 01-10
  • Extremes report 2013: NZ drought and record Aussie heat made worse by warmi...
    The latest climate extremes report finds that 9 out of 16 extreme weather events from last year were influenced by climate change. In particular, the conditions that led to New Zealand’s severe North Island drought — the worst for 41...
    Hot Topic | 01-10
  • On holiday
    Quick PSA: I won on holiday this week, which is why I'm not blogging much at all. Next week I will post once and only once on the Labour leadership contest....
    Polity | 01-10
  • World News Brief, Wednesday October 1
    Top of the AgendaAfghanistan and United States Sign Security Deal...
    Pundit | 01-10
  • Dancing Traffic Lights
    As a pedestrian it can be easy to become a bit impatient, especially when traffic lights are prioritised solely around the movement of vehicles which can leave a long wait between phases. Here’s one idea to keep people occupied while...
    Transport Blog | 01-10
  • Secure work, health and safety and pay rises
    This week the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions (the NZCTU) released their latest economic bulletin today with economist Bill Rosenberg answering the question about whether workers who have a collective employment agreement get bigger pay rises than those on...
    frogblog | 01-10
  • Shock! Horror! Wife defends husband!!!!
        In recent posts I’ve made some fairly trenchant comments about David Cunliffe, primarily about his media performance. Others, including some of his Caucus colleagues, have gone even further. The now resigned Leader of the Opposition has been under...
    Brian Edwards | 01-10
  • September ’14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
    PLEASE NOTE: Sitemeter is playing up again making it impossible to automatically get the stats for some blogs – those I list below. Maybe more bloggers will shift to StatCounter or other counter. No stats could be found for these blogs: Works...
    Open Parachute | 01-10
  • September ’14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
    PLEASE NOTE: Sitemeter is playing up again making it impossible to automatically get the stats for some blogs – those I list below. Maybe more bloggers will shift to StatCounter or other counter. No stats could be found for these blogs: Works...
    Open Parachute | 01-10
  • Auckland: the world’s friendliest city
    UK travel magazine Conde Nast Traveler has just named Auckland the world’s friendliest city in its 2014 rankings. It introduces Auckland with a great photo that highlights the city’s growing urbanity: FRIENDLIEST: 1. Auckland, New Zealand Score: 86.0 (tie) We...
    Transport Blog | 01-10
  • Waterview Breakthrough
    On Monday Alice the Tunnel Boring Machine broke through at Waterview after tunnelling for the last 10 months. And here’s a video of it happening. One of the things that is really impressive is just how accurate the machine is...
    Transport Blog | 30-09
  • Fundamental incomprehension II
    Another day, and another journalist who just doesn't get it about the Greens. This time its Duncan Garner:The Green Party needs a serious rethink. For as long as they have been in Parliament, they have been a left wing party...
    No Right Turn | 30-09
  • An Open Letter to Green Party Supporters: Why I slagged off your Party
    Last week I called for a Bluegreen Party – an environmental party that I could in all conscience, vote for. It prompted a huge response, which confirmed to me there is a clear constituency that is not being serviced. I...
    Gareth’s World | 30-09
  • Parliament should decide
    Yesterday John Key began laying the groundwork to deploy kiwi troops to Iraq to fight in another pointless American war. And with the Labour Party distracted by its autocannibalism, its left to Winston Peters to stand up for democratic values...
    No Right Turn | 30-09
  • The problem with warmongers
    The problem with warmongers is they appear to have no empathy for their fellow human beings. That's because war, and the industrial complex behind it, is invariably built upon people's prejudices.History is littered with examples of prejudice being used as...
    The Jackal | 30-09
  • Australia to criminalise journalism
    Imagine this scenario: Australian spies seeking to fight domestic terrorism borrow the tactics of their American counterparts and start running agent provocateurs to "flush out" those with terrorist leanings. But an operation goes horribly wrong, and actually results in a...
    No Right Turn | 30-09
  • School funding failing vulnerable students – time for a better way?
    1 October 2014 Schools with the greatest needs get too little to meet those needs, says PPTA president Angela Roberts. The current school funding system is failing to support our most vulnerable students and this morning delegates at PPTA’s annual...
    PPTA | 30-09
  • Waiho Papa Moana Hikoi
    More than 1,000 people marched up Queen Streen in Auckland yesterday, as part of the Waiho Papa Moana Hikoi, to protest outside Sky City at the New Zealand Petroleum Summit against plans to begin deep sea oil drilling in the...
    Greenpeace NZ blog | 30-09
  • Hold fast to your Mana – Harawira
    Hone Harawira today called on the voters of Tai Tokerau to hold fast to their mana, and not be dictated to by those party leaders who have ganged together to tell them how to vote. “I call on our people...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Media Advisory – Interview availability
    This is to advise all media that Hone Harawira will be available in Auckland tomorrow, Friday the 19th of September from 7am to 4pm for interviews relating to his recent press releases. If you are interested in interviewing Mr Harawira on...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Labour stands on proud record on Suffrage Day
    Women have come a long way in the 121 years since New Zealand became the first country to give them the vote on September 19 1893, but there is still more to do, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Carol Beaumont says....
    Labour | 18-09
  • Polling Booths asked to treat Maori voters with respect
    “Polling booths without Maori roll voting papers, Maori people not being offered assistance to vote, people getting sent from Whangarei to Wellsford to vote, Maori people getting turned away from voting because they didn’t have their ‘easy vote’ card, Maori...
    Mana | 17-09
  • Aussie Liberals embroiled in Key campaign
    John Key needs to explain why Australia’s Liberal Party is interfering in New Zealand domestic politics and is encouraging Kiwi voters across the ditch to vote for National just days out from the election, Labour’s campaign spokesperson Annette King says....
    Labour | 17-09
  • The MANA Plan for Beneficiaries and Income in Waiariki
    Median Personal Income for Waiariki is $21,700. Over 13,000 Maori who live in Waiariki rely upon a form of government benefit including the Unemployment Benefit, Sickness Benefit, Domestic Purpose Benefit and the Invalids Benefit. “If you’re lucky enough to have...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Māori development crucial to New Zealand’s future
    Labour recognises the concern of Māori about child poverty and the rising costs of living, and in Government will make a real difference to the wellbeing of whānau and iwi, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “As our Māori...
    Labour | 16-09
  • MAORI PARTY – DON’T COMPLAIN … WALK
    “If the Maori Party are serious about stopping government spying on NZ citizens then they should tell the Prime Minister to either stop doing it or they will walk away” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira, on...
    Mana | 16-09
  • JOHN KEY SUPPORTING LABOUR
    “There is something really sick about a National Party Prime Minister coming out in support of a Labour candidate” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira, after hearing that John Key is urging voters to back Labour in...
    Mana | 16-09
  • SHUT DOWN THIS GOVT NOT KAITI WINZ – Nikora
    “I’m going to make it as hard for you to get help as I can” is Paula Bennett’s message to the people of Kaiti  said MANA candidate Te Hāmua Nikora today in response to the news that National will close...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Winegums make for better polling – Harawira
    I wanted to laugh when I saw the Native Affairs poll the other night (Hone Harawira 38%, Kelvin Davis 37%) because it was almost the same as the one they did back in 2011”, said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau...
    Mana | 16-09
  • The Leadership of MTS Lied – Harawira
    “Normally I’m happy to tell people that I was right but when I received the news about the staff cuts at Maori Television, I had nothing but sympathy for the three Maori media leaders who are going to be made...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Privileges Complaint Laid against Prime Minister – Harawira
    MANA Movement Leader and Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira has today lodged a Privileges Complaint with the Speaker regarding the Prime Ministers denials in parliament that he knew anything about Kim Dotcom before 2012. “Information made public today appears...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Sharples’ new appointments are out of order
    The new appointments to the Waitangi Tribunal announced by Dr Pita Sharples this morning are completely out of order given the election is just five days away, says Labour's State Services spokesperson, Maryan Street. “This Government continues to show disdain...
    Labour | 15-09
  • MANA Movement Housing Policy
    “When families are living in cars, garages, cockroach-infested caravans and three families to a house then we have a housing crisis”, said MANA leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira. “When you have a housing crisis for low-income...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Bigger than the Foreshore and Seabed – Sykes
    “Over the past week I have received some disturbing information that has led myself and a number of Maori lawyers to conclude that this National - Maori Party - ACT and United Future Government are going to put an end to both...
    Mana | 14-09
  • MANA wants Te Reo Māori petition fulfilled
    Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Annette Sykes, MANA candidate for Waiariki Te Hāmua Nikora, MANA candidate for Ikaroa Rāwhiti  “More than four decades have passed and the petition calling for Te Reo Māori in schools...
    Mana | 14-09
  • Primary focus on the critical issues
    A Labour Government will prioritise New Zealand’s agricultural sectors by recreating a Rural Affairs Minister and appointing a Primary Industry Council and a Chief Agricultural Adviser. Releasing Labour’s Primary Sector and Rural Affairs policies today, spokesperson Damien O’Connor says the...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Maori Television fears confirmed – Harawira
    ...
    Mana | 12-09
  • More ghost houses from National
    The Government’s desperate pre-election announcement of more ghost houses won’t fool Aucklanders wanting action on the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “These are ghost houses, to go with National’s ghost tax cut. Families cannot live in ghost...
    Labour | 12-09
  • National bows to union pressure over travel time
    National has reluctantly bowed to pressure from unions and adopted Labour’s fair and sensible policy to pay home support workers for the time they spend traveling between clients, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “This decision is long overdue...
    Labour | 12-09
  • I feel sorry for Labour Party members and supporters
    I feel really sorry for the members and supporters of the Labour Party as they watch their caucus tear itself to shreds. And no matter what the outcome of the coming leadership race Labour members and supporters will be the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • Ummmm, why is Auckland Transport spying on Aucklanders?
    Ummm. What? Sophisticated surveillance coming to Auckland Surveillance technology that uses high definition cameras and software that can put names to faces and owners to cars is coming to Auckland. The surveillance has the capability to also scan social media...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • It. Is. About. The. Economy. Stupid.
    Liam Dann does a good job of explaining the positive and negative issues looming for the NZ economy and as dairy prices plunge again overnight alongside a large Wall st sell off  and China Bank rumours begin, his case for the negative...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • Don’t think of it as reinvading Iraq, think of it as redecorating Iraq
    I think some NZers view Iraq like an episode of The Block. Yes Iraq is the worst country on the street, but with a bit of elbow grease by our SAS and some great deals down at Bunnings, hey presto we...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Mana Maori alliance
    Most Maori you speak to on the street can’t understand why Mana movement and  Maori Party don’t combine it confuses them why Maori are divided cross benches in Parliament instead of a unified political power that represents 15% of the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • Party members and affiliates – the real losers in Labour’s leadership f...
    Hey, wanna do a back room deal that cuts the members and affiliates out? Cunliffe must be reeling. He has lost failed Ilam candidate James Dann. It must cut as deep as the loss of Steve Gibson. Apart from providing Claire...
    The Daily Blog | 30-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, the election res...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, the election result...
    The Daily Blog | 30-09
  • The rich get richer
    Nobel prize winner Paul Krugman highlights the growing inequality in this article in the New York Times. The left wing slogan that the “the rich get richer” is a fact of almost perverse power. The most recent period of expansion in the...
    The Daily Blog | 30-09
  • A brief word on reinvading Iraq
    So after telling the country before the election that NZ would not send forces to Iraq, lo and behold now he’s won the election with a full spectrum dominance political majority, Key is suddenly now looking to join the re-invasion of...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • A brief word on the importance of ACT, Maori Party and United Future to Nat...
    I’m a far right wing clown who attacks tax money going on anything collective, gimmie some cash and privilege.  One of the great successes of National has been to implement hard right policy but have it sold as moderate. For some NZers,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • Labour’s Angst
    Was Labour’s predictably low vote David Cunliffe’s fault? Was it policy? Was it something else that has aroused perceptions of electoral carnage? My analysis of the numbers suggests that, as uncertain voters made up their minds, there was a late...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • Information wars: Gaza as “the last taboo”, the threat of mass surveill...
    “When the truth is replaced with silence” wrote the soviet dissident Yevgeni Yevtushenko, “the silence is a lie.” There has been a silence these past months full of noise, static and sound bites of those in power justifying their violence,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • When the media say they covered Dirty Politics – did they?
    I was watching The Nation in the weekend, and watched the defenders of NZ media up against Minto telling him he was wrong in his claims of media bias and that the media covered Dirty Politics. I laughed. When the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG – P Campbell – To the Left with love
    A week after the general election results I feel wrung out emotionally, having been through the disappointment, depression and anger of seeing  another right wing government elected overwhelmingly by winning support from the parts of NZ that will never benefit...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – I will be the new Labour Leader!
    One week after the election, while I was still waiting to be consulted about contributing to the review on what went wrong, what do you know? There is a leadership challenge. So instead of opting for a united, thoughtful and...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – A Prescient Post
    A very prescient pre-election post by Martyn Bradbury tells us why the Labour Party are at war now. “The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work” Despite Martyn Bradbury warning them this Right Wing strategy “Better Work”...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – W(h)ither Labour (!/?)
    There’s an old saying that success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan. Not so in the Labour Party, wherein soul-crushing defeat on a scale unseen since 1925 definitely has many fathers (and more than a few mothers and...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • At the end of the day…
    At the end of the day…...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • Cynicism towards Key’s sudden desire to help children in poverty
    Cynicism towards Key’s sudden desire to help children in poverty...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Internet MANA the election and the media
    I’ve been very critical of media reporting of Internet MANA during the election campaign and not surprised at the predictable response from representatives of the corporate media establishment. I wasn’t going to carry this further but was asked at the...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Rachel Jones – A superficial discourse analysis of a superfic...
    On Sunday there was a story about Paddy Gower and his detached retina in the Herald on Sunday. Really? I hear you ask. Really? Yes, really. Pam Corkery will have sprayed toast crumbs over her dressing gown. The reporter has become...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Terrorising Australia’s Muslim population
    We should be suspicious when 800 police conduct “terror” raids across Australia, but only one person is charged with a relevant terrorism offence (of which we know few details). We should be suspicious of the lurid tales of terrorists planning...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Another Labour leader has resigned and as per usual, the media lost its min...
    Another Labour leader has resigned and as per usual, the media lost its mind. I know the Labour party has its problems and I’m not even going to try to prescribe what should be done about it. But what I...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Loyalty, Leadership and the Labour Party
    My first after the election and I can only say I’m feeling pretty sad.  It was a terrible result, and feels even more so knowing the number of volunteers hours, hard work & sacrifice made by so many people who...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • A Study in Party Stability
    . In terms of long-term stability, one party above stands above all others, with the exception of personality-driven groups such as NZ First and United Future. That party is the Greens. If the Labour Party wants to look elsewhere for...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • Cunliffe vs Robertson – Round 2
    Much to the disappointment of the NZ Herald and other right wing pundits who have decided they would like to appoint the next Labour leader, Cunliffe has surprised by deciding to damn the Caucus and appeal directly to the members...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • The tasks before the left and labour movement
    Anyone on the left would have been disappointed at the result of the election. There was an opportunity to win, but that got lost through a combination of factors. There were tactical decisions made by Labour, the Greens and Internet-Mana...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • From Fiji’s dictatorship to ‘democracy’ – the AUT student team on t...
    Mads Anneberg’s profile on Ricardo Morris and Repúblika. David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. THREE STUDENTS from AUT University covered Fiji’s historic “from dictatorship to democracy” general election this month. While the election arguably legitimised Voreqe Bainimarama’s so-called 2006...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • David Cunliffe Resigns As Labour Leader – Forces Robertson Out of the Bel...
    David Cunliffe has made a smart move, resigning as the leader of the Labour Party so as to force a leadership primary campaign. The move draws rival Grant Robertson out of the beltway to parts of the country where he...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • Deep thought vs Deep prejudice
    . . This letter to the editor appeared in The Listener, on 27 September, and caught my attention; . . Mr Dawson wrote in response to one of those typically unthinking comments which  condemned the poor for their “unbridled, reckless...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • The NZ National voters elected
    The NZ National voters elected...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The post election postmortem is giving me post p...
    I feel the need to contribute to the discourse. This is a new experience for me. Not having an opinion, but expressing it on a popular forum in a public sphere. That’s why I have waited till now and put...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • A dictionary of education terms and definitions, brought to you by the let...
    Free to all TDB readers, please enjoy your very own cut-out-and-keep handy primer of terms that I predict you will need to know over the next three years… Achievement Gap (noun) Synonym for wealth gap. ACT (abstract noun) Intangible. Reported to exist in...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • A Mines Rescue brigadesman’s perspective on the Pike River Mine
    My husband and I lived in Greymouth in 2010, we were a coal mining family.  The day Pike River Mine blew up and the days following changed us profoundly, as it did for so many.  This is a Mines Rescue...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • The Left Triumphant! A Counterfactual History of the Last Twelve Months.
    DID IT REALLY HAVE TO END LIKE THIS? Reading through the commentary threads of the left-wing blogs it is impossible to not feel the anger; the sense of betrayal; the impression of having had something vital ripped from their grasp;...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Myles Thomas: The media won it!
    Make no mistake, John Key is a clever communicator – reasonable, authoritative and relaxed – but without the media he wouldn’t be PM. Depending on your viewpoint, New Zealand’s news media are either a bunch of Grey Lynn lefties or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • Not Learning Lessons Past: the West’s Response to IS
    In an earlier posting Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland, I noted that the first lesson of conflict learned by Robert McNamara was “understand your adversary”. If we have honourable objectives, our first and most important weapon is empathy. In the Vietnam War,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Dr Jarrod Gilbert – Proof of David Farrar’s deception: my ...
    In the lead up to the election the Minister of Corrections Anne Tolley launched a gang policy. In order to justify the government’s approach she used gang figures that overstated the gang problem. Not by a little bit, but a...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • SPECIAL FEATURE: Stuart Nash – Red To The Rescue?
    SPECIAL FEATURE by Selwyn Manning. IF THE ELECTION RESULT which was dished out to Labour was not enough to incite an immediate leadership primary, then the caucus’ refusal to recognise David Cunliffe as the leader should cement it. Now is...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • Has the one party state crackdown begun already? Left wing NZ activist grou...
    Well known left wing activist social media group, ‘John Key Has Left Down NZ’ has been shut down on Facebook. At 11.40pm last night, Facebook, without any warning shut the group down siting a breach of terms of service as...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • Why Cunliffe should probably just let Nash & Robertson win
    We have to face some very unpalatable home truths. If you are a left wing political person, best you put your vote now to the Green Party, although you’ll have to do that all the while the Greens frantically tell you...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • The graceless win of Kelvin Davis
    The graceless win of Cameron Slater’s mate in the North, Kelvin Davis is difficult to swallow. Here Cameron Slater’s mate in the North is shitting on Hone Harawira by calling Hone all steam, no hangi as Kelvin rubs his ganged up win into...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • So Labour shifted too far to the left?
    So Labour shifted too far to the left?   Here’s the ill-judged view of Josie Pagani in the Pundit “Labour must change”: “At the last election I made myself a heretic when I wrote a column mentioning how unpopular the...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • Uncomplicated Loyalties: Why Cunliffe and the Labour Left Cannot Win
    THE STORY of David Cunliffe’s leadership of the Labour Party has been one of missed opportunities and unforced errors. That he was the only choice available to those who wanted to rid the Labour Party of its neoliberal cuckoos is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • So we can expect this now?
    So we can expect this now?...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Can Labour be saved? Why Whaleoil & National won and why we need a new ...
    As the shock of my optimism that NZers would recoil from the real John Key as exposed by Dirty Politics and mass surveillance duplicities wears off, I am surprised to find that the right in NZ are not content with...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Three more years (up shit creek and paddling hard)
    “If the future is not green, there is no future. If the future is not you, there is no future”. Emma Thompson’s stirring words to the climate marchers in London last Sunday are worth considering in the aftermath of the...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • One Party State
    In years to come this election will be seen as a historic turning point towards one party rule. I don`t mean this literally, absolute single party dictatorship is not in prospect. In the New Zealand context though, one party has...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • No More. The Left Falls.
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    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Hang tight everyone – Marama Davidson campaign reflection
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    The Daily Blog | 22-09
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    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Over 20% of Gold Production Now Pledged to Kiwifruit Claim
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    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • ‘Creepy’ Decision on Up-Skirt Filming Slammed
    Family First NZ says that a discharge without conviction given to a man who filmed up a woman's dress in a Wellington department store is a ‘creepy’ decision that should concern all people who value their privacy. “This decision by...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Speaker leads delegation to CPA Conference
    Strengthening New Zealand’s ties with parliaments from across the world will be the focus of the upcoming delegation to the 60th Commonwealth Parliamentary Association (CPA) Conference in Yaoundé, Cameroon from 4-10 October and the 131st Inter-Parliamentary...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Response to Russell Brown and Tertiary Education Union
    The allegation that I have worked with others to discredit public health efforts is wrong. My public comments in relation to public health researchers have been where academics have mislead the public about official support or endorsement, and where...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • 17 jobs lost as Bridon/Cookes reaches the end of its rope
    Seventeen workers at the iconic Bridon/Cookes wire rope company in Auckland are to be made redundant as the company ceases production in New Zealand. The company has blamed the high New Zealand dollar for making it uncompetitive to keep the...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Slip in University Rankings – Funding Not the Problem
    Responding to the slippage of New Zealand universities' rankings , Jordan Williams, Executive Director of the Taxpayers’ Union says:...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Time to rethink police chases, says safety campaigner
    Police chases are dangerous and generally unnecessary, says the American Federal Bureau of Investigation....
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Robertson now expected to be Labour leader by Xmas
    Grant Robertson is now overwhelmingly picked to become the next leader of the Labour Party by the end of the year, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Another potential Labour...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Documenting historic Māori land law cases for the first time
    A new book from Victoria University of Wellington’s Faculty of Law will continue to put the spotlight on Māori Land Law judgments which have never before been published....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • ‘Oily’ people greet Petroleum Summit diners
    Greenpeace activists smeared in fake oil have greeted guests arriving at the part-Statoil sponsored Petroleum Summit dinner this evening....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Key Decisions Made About Labour’s Leadership Election
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has made the key decisions about the timetable and process around the election of Labour’s Party Leader. The result will be announced on Tuesday 18th November, following a comprehensive and extensive process unique...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Suspected $6 Million Dollar Wananga Fraud Alarming
    The Taxpayers’ Union is calling on on the Te Whare Wananga o Awanuiarangi to front up over claims the Wananga has pocketed government overpayments amounting to $6 million of taxpayers' money. Jordan Williams, Executive Director of the Taxpayers’ Union...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Submissions sought on herbicide for weed control in maize
    The Environmental Protection Authority is calling for submissions on a herbicide to improve broadleaf weed control in maize. The substance CADET contains 100g fluthiacet-methyl in the form of an emulsifiable concentrate and would contain a new active ingredient...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Jesse Mulligan Lives Below Poverty Line
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    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Narratives from the 2014 Election: What do we learn?
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    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Voices from Oceania to speak out on climate change
    Voices from Oceania to speak out on climate change at launch of Pacific environment report...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Changes to Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre messages
    The Ministry of Civil Defence & Emergency Management advises that while changes to Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre messages come into effect from today (Wednesday 1 October), the Ministry has been, and remains, the authoritative voice for tsunami...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Police remove banner at Statoil Offices in Wellington
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    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Mixed massages raise concerns
    Mixed massages raise concerns for Te Taumata Kaumatua Ngapuhi nui tonu, and Te Wakaminenga O nga Hapu Ngapuhi....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Union Slams Port Boss’s Pay Rise
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    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Prisons expert Ron Nikkel to speak in Auckland October 15
    Prison Fellowship NZ and JustSpeak have the privilege of hosting the former president of Prison Fellowship International, Ron Nikkel....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Hundreds of educators protest IES in Rotorua
    Four hundred educators from around the country took their opposition to the Government's controversial Investing in Educational Success policy to the public today....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Crime drops by 3.2 % in the 2013 / 2014 financial year
    Criminal offences dropped by 3.2 % in the last financial year according to figures released today through Statistics New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Narratives from the 2014 Election: what do we learn?
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    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Oil Free Wellington drops banner from Statoil headquarters
    Today members of Oil Free Wellington have targeted the offices of Statoil, by attaching a banner reading 'Statoil out of Northland: Stop Deep Sea Oil' to the entrance of Vodafone on the Quay Midland Park, where Statoil's New Zealand office...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Media Statement from Karen Price
    “After a period of intense media attention and scrutiny of our family, I set up and used an anonymous Twitter account over the weekend and made a number of comments that I deeply regret....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Greenpeace disrupts Simon Bridges’ speech to oil industry
    Greenpeace activists have disrupted the opening speech by Energy and Resources Minister Simon Bridges at the Petroleum Summit in Auckland this morning....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • New Zealand Red Cross Responds to Drought in Tonga
    New Zealand Red Cross has sent an aid worker and two desalination units, to turn seawater into safe drinking water in the drought-hit Ha’apai islands of Tonga....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Can you ever tell if an email is real or forged?
    Computer industry veteran Brian Eardley-Wilmot warns that we should never take claims about stolen emails at face value....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • NZ MPs to attend the ASPG Annual Conference in Sydney
    New Zealand MPs to attend the Australasian Study of Parliament Group Annual Conference in Sydney...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Independent Maori seats still needed in Parliament
    “He’s got to be joking!” is the reaction of the president of the Maori Party, Rangimarie Naida Glavish to a call by a former Labour Minister of Maori Affairs, Dover Samuels, for debate by Maori on whether the Maori electorates...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Support for Democratic Rights in Hong Kong
    Rallies supporting the rights for universal suffrage will take place all over New Zealand today and tomorrow...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Trout Mass-Poisoned in New Zealand
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • New Zealand’s 2014 Hottest Vegetarians Crowned
    With winter gone things are heating up, and things just got even hotter with the crowning of New Zealand’s hottest vegetarians, says animal advocacy group SAFE. Marking World Vegetarian Day, 1st October, director James Napier Robertson and actor...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • A day to remember our duty to look after our senior citizens
    Human Rights Commissioner Dr Jackie Blue says International Day of the Older Person (1 October) is a United Nations day to celebrate our senior citizens, but also acknowledge the need to protect our kaumatua, or older people from abuse and...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Clear data needed on impact of benefit sanctions on children
    A lack of data on benefit sanctions means there is no way of knowing whether welfare reform is helping or harming children, says Child Poverty Action Group....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • The socialist alternative to austerity and war
    Public meeting: After the New Zealand election—the socialist alternative to austerity and war By Tom Peters 29 September 2014...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • New recruits to boost border protection
    Twenty six new recruits began an intensive nine-week training course in Auckland today that will see them graduate as Customs officers in time for the busy summer season....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Dwindling Mallard population shows up ‘pest’ myth
    The pro hunting organisation Fish & Game is researching the causes of the decline of the mallard duck population, upset at the prospect of fewer ducks to kill....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Support for Democratic Rights in Hong Kong
    New Zealanders in Auckland will gather on Wednesday to support the rights for universal suffrage in Hong Kong....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Campbell Live Exclusive Interview with David Cunliffe
    David Cunliffe resigned as leader of the Labour party on Saturday; but he still wants the top job....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Action needed on cycling safety
    “Clearly we aren't doing enough to protect the 1.5 million New Zealanders who ride bikes,” said Mr Morgan....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • World Rivers Day Passes Without A Whimper
    Sunday 28 September was World Rivers Day to celebrate clean, flowing rivers and caring about them. But a recreation-conservation advocacy the Council of Outdoor Recreation Associations of NZ (CORANZ) says the day seems to have slipped by without...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • The Kiwifruit Claim: Q&A
    1. Who is running The Kiwifruit Claim? The Kiwifruit Claim was founded by kiwifruit growers representing well in excess of 10% of the industry. 2. Why are you running this claim? The introduction of Psa into New Zealand had devastating...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Fed Farmers Need to Be Weaned
    The Taxpayers’ Union is calling on Federated Farmers to make a firm commitment to reject any future Government funding, after it was revealed that the lobby group had received over $200,000 of payments in recent years....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Children paying the price for charter school stitch up
    New Zealand children will be paying a high price for a one-seat deal between ACT and National, with an expansion of the beleaguered charter school system says education union NZEI Te Riu Roa....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Hikoi From North Reaches Oil Conference Tomorrow
    Today: The Hikoi opposing Statoil plans for seismic testing and deep sea oil drilling has marched through Dargaville and later be welcomed to Piringatahi Marae, West Harbour,Tamaki Makaurau/Auckland....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Communities Still Count
    The efforts of many organisations to influence the electorate and the political parties they voted for in the lead up to the 2014 Election is over. The voting public has spoken and provided a strong endorsement to the centre-right National...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Eleven social enterprises get ready to take off
    Eleven teams from across the country will take part in the Launchpad, Ākina’s programme to get social enterprise ideas off the ground....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
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