Open mike 12/04/2016

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  1. Penny Bright 1

    A year ago – who had even heard of Bernie Sanders?

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/sanders-become-democratic-nominee-even-if-clinton-leads-in-delegates_b_9657952.html?

    Bernie Sanders Will Become Democratic Nominee Even If Clinton Leads in Delegates
    ____________________________

    Penny Bright
    2016 Auckland Mayoral candidate.

    • Jenny 1.1

      Great point. Penny.

      An avowed socialist, a champion for raising the minimum wage, campaigning on recalling all overseas troops, and campaigning on climate change. And raising taxes on the rich, and controls on banks.

      The opposition parties in this country should be taking notes.

      https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/poll-flag-flop-fails-dent-governments-popularity

    • Lanthanide 1.2

      It’s a typically poor analysis. Obama was winning in pledged delegates by about 60 when they went into the convention – so the superdelegates seeing the “voice of the people” swapped to his side.

      Sanders is unlikely to have the pledged delegates lead in this race – so the superdelegates will see the “voice of the people” calling for Hillary and stay where they are.

      • Wayne 1.2.1

        Penny and Jenny,

        For this outcome to be credible, Sanders would have to win New York and Pennsylvania. This is not very likely. But we will all actually know in a week.

        Sanders claims 7 out of the last 8 primaries, but they are mostly small caucus run primaries comprising of party activists. It seems in the US, as with left wing parties elsewhere, that the activist membership is much more left than the general public who are inclined to vote left.

        Interestingly, at least in NZ and Australia, that seems less true of centre-right parties. The activists pretty much mirror the voters who are vote for their parties.

        • Bearded Git 1.2.1.1

          Sanders was 10 points behind in the last NY poll, so he has that in the bag.

        • adam 1.2.1.2

          Those who vote Wayne.

          We have seen one success of the last 30 odd years, that you lot are not quick to champion, and that is massive disillusionment with the political process. Your so called centre-right is about what, 1/3 of the population – if we lucky? Begs many questions, and yes of the labour party as well.

          That said, I find it funny that the narrative keeps changing on Sanders to fit your world view. Congratulations for not asking him to stand down, at least that old chestnut has stopped. I’d like him to win, then we would see what the centre looks like again. Because lets face it – Bernie is nothing if not centre.

          Also are you trying to deflect from the fact that many independents vote in the party primaries? And these people are not leftist on the whole, as you claim. Yes some are, some are even greens. But the overwhelming majority of these Americans see something is rotten in their system – that being corporate money in politics, and are voting against it.

          Good luck with your narrative Wayne, but more and more people are becoming disillusioned with a system set up to enrich the already rich, at the expense of the poor and middle class.

          • Wayne 1.2.1.2.1

            Adam,

            As I said we will all know within a week.

            In a literal sense only those who vote count.

            Bernie will not persuade a single super delegate by trying to say that all those who don’t vote would support him, or that he can dramatically improve voter turnout in the general election.

            Whoever wins, wins. Bernie cannot make a loss mean a win. He actually has to win on the votes.

            • adam 1.2.1.2.1.1

              Wayne,

              I’d say Bernie has done really well in getting disillusioned voters to vote. And independents are a group we don’t understand well in New Zealand.

              I don’t think Bernie has ever said he represent those who have not voted. Can’t think of a time when he has.

              I look at New York with much interest, it has been rather enjoyable to watch Bernie been written off so many times, only to see him come back stronger.

              • Ad

                But if Sanders loses, he will be following the spectacular fall of the left’s vote that has occurred in Australasia and Europe for a decade. It’s bad for your reflux to hope and risk so much on so little. You may have to learn to settle.

                • Bill

                  I’m glad I don’t have to wake up in the morning and wrestle with that kind of tortuous logic coming from my own head Ad. 😉

                  A guy who stood on a centrist (statist) programme, began at 5 or 10% (something like that) and will, at worst, run Clinton close. And that’s a ‘spectacular fall of the left’s (statist’s) vote’?

                  Still shaking my head here trying to get a grip on the thought processes behind your conclusion.

                • Jenny

                  “But if Sanders loses, he will be following the spectacular fall of the left’s vote that has occurred in Australasia and Europe for a decade. It’s bad for your reflux to hope and risk so much on so little. You may have to learn to settle.” Ad

                  Getting a wee bit previous there, aren’t we Ad? Be careful you don’t peak too soon. And blow the whole scam.

                  Ad, the left’s vote has fallen for the very reason you are promoting, the Tony Blair’s and the Roger Douglas’s and the Kevin Rudd’s who have taken their parties to the right, disillusioned their support base.
                  Personally I think you are being a bit premature suggesting that the Labour Party go down this path this early in.

                  Bernie Sanders genius, is in ignoring all this “accepted wisdom”.

                  As I said before; it is my opinion that Labour, (and the Greens) would be well advised to take a lead from Bernie Sanders and start openly promoting similar and even more radical left policies.

                  Let’s see how the electorate responds.

                  Like Bernie Sanders they might be pleasantly surprised at the support they receive.

                  And, what have Labour got to lose, they seem to be on a downward spiral at the moment.

            • Kevin 1.2.1.2.1.2

              Which recent state win did Bernie have recently where only days before the polls had him 20% behind Clinton?

            • Kevin 1.2.1.2.1.3

              Which state win did Bernie have recently where only days before the polls had him 20% behind Clinton?

            • Jenny 1.2.1.2.1.4

              “Penny and Jenny,

              For this outcome to be credible, Sanders would have to win New York and Pennsylvania.” WAYNE

              Though it is contained within the link. I didn’t, make any comment on the outcome.

              It is my opinion that it is a pretty foregone conclusion that the establishment will close ranks to avert the threat from their left posed by Sanders. (Probably more effectively and with more determination than they will to oppose the threat from their right.)

              What is noteworthy is the thirst for openly expressed Left wing policies by the American public.

              Which seems to go against all accepted wisdom. Or so we are told.

              Just watch this space:
              When the Labour Party lose the next election, (which seems from all polling quite likely), I expect a huge hue and cry will be raised from the media and all the establishment pundits, (even from those within their own Party) that for Labour to win they need to be more like National and John Key, and even more conservative than they are now.

              The real lesson of Bernie Sanders will be buried under an avalanche of right wing columnists and editorials and ernest to-camera monologue’s, urging Labour to move rightward.

              • Jenny

                The best Prime Minister New Zealand almost didn’t have.

                Norman Kirk, as leader of the Labour Party lost two elections before he was elected Prime Minister.

                The best Prime Minister New Zealand will never have.

                David Cunliffe lost one election and was tumbled in an undemocratic coup by a right wing cabal inside the Labour caucus calling themselves the ABC group.

                It can be strongly argued that Labour lost the election not because of David Cunliffe’s leadership but due to the fact of his very last minute promotion (over the objection of the ABC cabal) that the die had already been cast. That and the fact that David Cunliffe had to make some unpopular compromises with his right wing dominated caucus.

                It is my opinion that David Cunliffe could have turned Labour’s fortunes around if he had been given the chance during this election cycle.

                Instead from where we are now it looks certain that Labour is looking down the barrel of another defeat.

                It is all water under the bridge now. But the sacking of David Cunliffe compared to the retention Norman Kirk, is a good example of how the conservative establishment do their best to make sure that Business Continues as Usual.

                So how can this situation be remedied.

                I would strongly suggest that Andrew Little start listening to David Cunliffe and promote him to a senior role in his shadow cabinet, and that Andrew Little needs to show more ABC neo-liberal hardliners where the door is.

                This would be a good organisational start. But more than this Andrew Little needs, contrary to the advice of Wayne and others like him, take on board the lesson of Bernie Sanders.

        • swordfish 1.2.1.3

          @ Wayne

          “It seems in the US, as with left wing parties elsewhere that the activist membership is much more left than the general public who are inclined to vote left.”

          And yet Sanders does appreciably better than Hillary in all of the one-to-one match-ups with the various possible Republican nominees (interestingly, that’s also true in the New York State Polls).

  2. Jenny 2

    Was Unaoil one of the oil industry lobbyists for New Zealand deep sea oil concessions?

    Serious questions need to be asked in parliament by opposition MPs of the government and the Labour Party.

    The two biggest companies and only individual named so far in the New Zealand Shell company tax haven scandal,

    Mossack Fonseca (Tax evasion)

    Unaoil (Bribery)

    And their Kiwi Frontman Ian Taylor (Gun running)

    Have all been raided by the police, and are facing serious investigation, in overseas jurisdictions.

    Have any government, (or opposition) MPs ever met with agents of Mossack Fonseca, Unaoil, or Ian Taylor?

  3. vto 3

    So all the world’s rich bankers and wankers avoid their tax all over the planet…

    … meaning that the people’s representatives (the government) does not receive proper tax income for use in that society….

    … so how about this for a means of raising income for the government…..

    Abandon tax.

    Government issues its own money as a proportion of the economy each year and uses that. That hits the entire economy equally across the board – fat cats, bankers and wankers, everyone, especially those with wealth and richness, who then suffer the proportionately same amount as the cleaners, drivers, teachers and preachers.

    Of course there would inflationary / deflationary and other effects as well, but that cancels itself out.

    So – no more tax.

    Government issues its own money, at a set proportion of the economy each year, and spends it into the economy as necessary.

    No more hiding from tax.

    • Draco T Bastard 3.1

      Government issues its own money as a proportion of the economy each year and uses that.

      Kinda. The government would create the money that it needs to fully fund itself every year. None of this proportionate BS.

      But can we abandon tax? I’m not sure on that one. I think it would be more that we would be changing what, when and how things are taxed.

      We would be looking at demurrage. And we’d make it progressive so that the more money you had in the bank the more you would pay.

      We would be looking to decrease interest rates to zero.

      With these two actions we make hoarding money worthless.

      We would, of course, bring natural monopolies back into government ownership and make it so that they cannot be sold. In fact, no government service will be provided by private businesses. They’re government services for a reason or three: More efficient, benefit from economies of scale but are limited to the people in the nation (i.e, extending outside the nation doesn’t extend the scale), Everyone benefits from them.

      Limit income to $100k. Anything over $100k will be taxed at 100%. Really, no one needs an income greater than $100k and so anything more than that is just greed and greed is destroying our society and the environment.

      These will make it so that no one will own major assets at all and remove the incentives to own ever more minor assets.

      Ban offshore ownership. This will keep the prices in NZ within the bounds of those living in NZ. As far as owning housing and businesses go the market is local, not global.

      That’s for starters. Haven’t got time to too much in depth but my posts and comments on TS cover quite a bit.

      • Reddelusion 3.1.1

        Under your system Draco what incentive is thier to be industrious, innovate, efficient ( ie the opposite of monopolies) , etc. How competitive would NZ be as an economy if we went with your prescription over time, Would our best and brightest stay, would we evolve or end up like eastern Europe under communism living in a time warp as the west moved on in nearly every human endeavour

        • Brutus Iscariot 3.1.1.1

          Yes, comical.

        • Draco T Bastard 3.1.1.2

          Under your system Draco what incentive is thier to be industrious, innovate, efficient ( ie the opposite of monopolies) , etc.

          Lots. People aren’t motivated the way that RWNJs think that they’re motivated and, in fact, they fuck up badly when paid more.

          How competitive would NZ be as an economy if we went with your prescription over time,

          Massively so.

          Would our best and brightest stay

          Yes they would as they would actually have something to challenge them rather than being forced into being a bloody farmer.

          What’s destroying NZ is RWNJ ideology. In fact, it’s destroying the environment and all other societies as well.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

          • Reddelusion 3.1.1.2.1

            Not convincing Draco, sorry and F

          • vto 3.1.1.2.2

            Draco and others…

            I mean tax the economy. Don’t tax the people – they are too tricky…

            The economy would effectively be taxed because the additional money issued would lower the value of the existing money in the system. This would happen equally and across the board. Kinda like a flat tax – so it doesn’t address the “progressive tax” issue…

            But taxing people is all too hard. I was trying to think of a way to tax something inert and large and unable to be individually fiddled.. and something that applies across everyone….

            … which is f course the whole lot of it…. the entire economy …. just take slice of the economy each year to pay for the essentials etc … and a slice can be taken by issuing more money….

            conceptually I think it works…

            • Reddelusion 3.1.1.2.2.1

              Just print money and trust the politicians, who decides essential, when does can’t be bother just print me money become an essential. Both Draco and yourself fail to appreciate human nature in your prescription assuming we just all live in one big homogenous hippy community re our values, goals, aspirations and motivations,likewise we are totally disconnected from of the rest of the world, thus no unintended consequences ie every one chose to stay in our little paradise

    • Ad 3.2

      If the UK required one single set of tax laws across its Caribbean protectorate we would start narrowing further the Rabbit holes of the 1%.

      I suspect the UK review will broaden to this.

    • Ad 3.3

      Very few would trust the government to have this amount of power.

      I wouldn’t.

  4. Nick 4

    Winston Peters was excellent this morning on RNZ. The interviewer was very cynical and didn’t know his stuff, Winston schooled him.

    • TC 4.1

      Yes winnie runs rings around these jonolists we have.

      The opposition in general need to treat them as the shills they are to wrest back the narrative from CT spin lines

  5. Sirenia 5

    On Martyn Bradbury’s Waatea TV last night Nicky Hagar gave an example of an Indonesian billionaire who burned down the rainforests for palm oil and all the profits were channelled through paper companies in untraceable tax havens so he paid no tax in Indonesia to benefit the local population. Or anywhere.

    Meanwhile, as a result of this destructive industry orangutangs die (and the NZ dairy industry imports the palm kernel for cow feed). These are the stories we should be told in the mainstream media.

  6. Tiger Mountain 6

    Tolley office “Molotov firebombing”–anyone got any updated info on this?

    the PM smeared the TPPA movement via TV and other media on 5 Feb after the impressive actions of 4 Feb, by attempting to link TPPA protests to graffiti and an apparent attempted fire setting in one of Anne Tolley’s four electorate offices (one is shared with another Nat MP)

    no statement from Police or Nats since, Tolley’s office is situated in an alley near a bank, with various security cams in place so some idea should have been gained as to the perpetrators

    another cold case? it is frustrating that the Nats get a nationwide “hit” on the TPPA movement for free

  7. esoteric pineapples 7

    This Waatea Fifth Estate panel discussion with Winston Peters, Grant Robertston and Nicky Hager on the Panama Papers is excellent – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7F54KgYjkQ

  8. ianmac 8

    I don’t get it. This morning on National Radio a man was describing how careful his firm is before accepting Trusts from overseas. But why are, say English rich, putting their money in NZ Trusts? Why do they not put their Trusts in their own country like the Honorable John Key?
    Oh. And no one has ever asked his firm for Trust details. Not IRD or anyone else!

    • Peter 9.1

      His views are more relevant to the UK situation, and are superficial at best. I really hate the word ‘Islamophobia’, but I think that many who are dragging up his comments are guilty of just that. Its less about Muslims and more about the source of the Muslim immigrants.

      Just do the maths: India (133m Muslims), China (133m Muslims), Indonesia (196m) Muslims, and so on. How many terrorists come from these populations? Many people from these Muslim populations are already well settled and reasonably well integrated in NZ and Australia.

      The common thread in the Islamic terrorists, lack of integration and so on in European countries (with a few exceptions) are more related to Middle Eastern and Bangladeshi immigrants. Most of these have had to make a quantum change from poverty, oppression and so on.

      Don’t tar all Muslim immigrants around the world with the same brush.

      Muslim population data:
      http://www.islamicweb.com/begin/population.htm

      • Puckish Rogue 9.1.1

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Phillips

        Superficial? He’s the former chair of the EHRC, a former leader of his student union

        “When I was chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, I played a principal role in the creation of UK laws against religious discrimination — and it was a report that I commissioned exactly 20 years ago that first introduced the term Islamophobia to Britain”

        I think he’s well qualified to talk about this subject

        • Peter 9.1.1.1

          Being a former head of his student union is relevant how exactly?

          Former head of EHRC does not mean his views now are correct, any more than his views then were correct.

          Its superficial in that he treats all muslim immigrants as though they are of one mind.

          • Puckish Rogue 9.1.1.1.1

            You are part of the problem and that’s why I hope that our refugee intake isn’t increased unless we give equal measure to other religions because I don’t want NZ to become like Europe

            • McFlock 9.1.1.1.1.1

              You are part of the problem and that’s why I hope that our refugee intake isn’t increased

              Lol

              You want to determine immigration policy based on Peter’s comments? sounds rational. /sarc

              As for your idea of a quota system to allow equal representation of other religions, we could probably do with more Zoroastrians and Satanists in the country, although agnostics and atheists should be recognised, too. But is this consistent with your previous stance on Labour’s so-called “man ban”?

              • Puckish Rogue

                Not quite sure how you’re linking man-bans with religion but that does remind me of something, where’s Tracey got to?

                I always enjoyed reading her posts

                • McFlock

                  I’m just intrigued as to why you favour a quota for religion but not for gender.

                  • Puckish Rogue

                    I’m ok with adding atheists and agnostics in as well but its more that why does one religion seem to get more publicity then any other religion (or indeed those without religion)

                    • McFlock

                      You sure it’s not more why some people get their knickers in a bigger twist over one religion than they do over many others?

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      I don’t mind saying that I’d like to stop all Muslim refugees from entering NZ from this point on if that’s what you’re getting at

                      There are plenty of refugees out there we can take from many religious beliefs or none at all

                    • McFlock

                      ISTR watching John Oliver a while back, and he made a persuasive case that “muslim” refugees (and refugees in general) have a lower crime rate than the population into which they flee.

                      Just food for thought, should you decide to think.

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      So what?

                      I’m sure a case can be also made for child sex rings run by Muslims:

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal

                      As can cases for random bombings (far too many to link to but I’m sure you’ll agree that I don’t need to prove it)

                      Or the dangers school kids face:

                      https://www.rt.com/news/270214-bavaria-muslim-school-clothes/

                      Or how about this: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cologne-attacks-what-happened-after-1000-women-were-sexually-assaulted-a6867071.html

                      So yeah bring in our quota of refugees but lets leave the Muslims to other countries

                    • McFlock

                      Not, the proposition wasn’t that there was no crime associated with immigrants. Just that the crime rate, even of the “muslim” immigrants who scare you so much, is lower than the general population they flee to. So a higher proportion of slave trafficking rings would be ruin by non-muslims, similarly with other sexual assaults. And your link to the school was about the local school princopal being as racist as you.

                      Like I say, if you want to start actually thinking, there are places you can go for help.

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      No McFlock, we have enough problems in NZ without importing more, known, problems into NZ

                      What makes you think that whats happening in Europe and, recently in Australia, can’t happen here

                      I know you’re that naïve so what is it?

                    • McFlock

                      What do you think is happening in europe and aus, first?

                      Let’s say criminals in a population are like alcohol concentration: if you take a drop of wine and put it in a bottle of whiskey, is the resulting concoction more or less alcoholic? Wine is refugees, whiskey is the population they flee to.

                    • adam

                      Wow so adding child like xenophobia to your list of faults Puckish Rouge.

                      Desperate for a distraction from you corrupt and bent mate John Key.

                      Woken up the fact that this national government is possibly the worst in our history have we, so looking for scape goats and new things to raise false flags about.

                      What a sad, sad human being you are.

                      Look the Alpha programme may help, let me know where you live and I’ll see if we can infuse some love into your heart.

  9. Graeme 10

    Well, whatever happened to the Special Housing Areas being for “affordable” homes?

    The first one to come on stream in the Wakatipu hits the market with a house package at $755,000.00 More like special developer profits

    http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/379362/entry-level-home-755000

    • Rosie 10.1

      That’s an astronomical price for a 124 square metre house on 360 square metres of land. Who’s going to be fool enough to buy that?
      I thought it was bad enough around our way. One developer has been trying to flog off 124 square metre houses in an MDH project. 30 units crammed onto a hillside, with the plan that they will be developed in 3 stages. Well, they started out on stage one two years ago with the units being marketed at $465K. It went up to $485K, then to $494K and now they are $508K. 3 units have sold from the first stage. The first purchase was 18 months ago and none of the units have been completed yet. Developer logic is “houses won’t sell, raise the price”.

      Time will tell how any of of these SHA’s around the country will contribute to the stock of “affordable homes”. I’m not holding my breath for the Wellington region. Our council has a disturbingly cosy relationship with developers.

      • saveNZ 10.1.1

        The SHA is another government farce and botch up – in Auckland they are selling for 1 million in Huapai.

        It really is some sort of Marie Antoinette moment of the government.

        Thanks for those ‘affordable’ houses Key. Neoliberalism really works! A bit like how NZ is ‘not a tax haven’ for his offshore buddies even though we are mentioned 60,000 times. sarc.

    • Puckish Rogue 11.1

      I guess the issue is, from what I’ve read, is that the offending is at the lower end of the scale so there’s no other physical evidence to back the complainant up so it comes down to their word against his and since you need to be sure beyond reasonable doubt…

      • Rosie 11.1.1

        Which is always the case with the nature of this type of offending. It’s so easy for offenders to get away with it, they have the immediate advantage of a lack of physical evidence of their offending, over their victims.

        I worry that these girls, alongside thousands of others that have gone before them, won’t get the justice they deserve.

        • Puckish Rogue 11.1.1.1

          Yes but only if what they say is true of course (I’m inclined to believe them as their stories seem to corroborate each other but of course I haven’t sat in on the case)

          • b waghorn 11.1.1.1.1

            Firstly why would two young girls lie and put themselves thru the wringer,
            And secondly if you were going to lie to get someone in the shit wouldn’t your allegations be of a more serious nature than these ones are?

        • James 11.1.1.2

          You are assuming that he is guilty. It may be that the people who have heard the evidence think he isnt (well enough of them to cause this stalemate).

          It could be that he is innocent – so no justice to the girls is required. Just the opposite in fact.

          I guess we have to wait for the jury decision to know huh.

          • Rosie 11.1.1.2.1

            Yes, well I guess the girls thought it would be a real hoot to make something up, make a police complaint, talk to adults about intimate parts of their bodies that a young girl is only getting used to the idea of, spend ages waiting for it to go to trial and then have their experiences laid bare to strangers and cope with a defence that rips them to shreds and belittles them.

            Totally in it for the lols.

            So yes, I do have a bias to support girls and women who make such allegations, knowing how often such experiences are never reported and how much strength and courage it takes for a person to go through this process. So if I’ve got my blinkers on, it’s for good reason.

            • Puckish Rogue 11.1.1.2.1.1

              Its good you have your blinkers on and the stats are skewed against complainants but its still innocent until proven guilty

              Peter Ellis may have a different view though

              • The lost sheep

                Comments above show why similar cases often end with Jury stalemates.

                In any group of 12 jurors there is highly likely to be at least one who believes the victim/s would not make the claim unless it was true, and at least one juror who believes that an accusation without evidence cannot possibly meet the test of ‘beyond reasonable doubt’.

                if neither is prepared to shift their position, Jury is stalemated. I was involved in one of those juries once, and before dismissing us the judge informed us not to feel bad because we were the third jury to be ‘hung’ on the same case.

                So the victims and accused had been through the wringer 3 times….and the expense to taxpayer was?
                Personally, I would rather see such cases be tried purely by a Judge.

                • Draco T Bastard

                  Pretty sure that’s why we no longer go for unanimous jury decisions.

                  Or is that still in the too hard basket for National?

                • left for dead

                  Very good point The lost sheep, thanks for making It.
                  I feel being a prom…… in NZ and being tried in your home base,Judge along wound been mandatory, does anyone now were the law stands, will the defendant choose.

            • James 11.1.1.2.1.2

              I can understand that Rosie.

              But there are also cases of where men have been unjustly complained against, and had their lives ruined.

              Im not saying that in this case at all (I havn’t been watching it that closely) – but I do know that cases like this people need ALL the information and blinkers (from any side) – are harmful.

              however, you obviously have some history – and I can understand that impacts your view on things – which is only natural. So can understand (as much as I can) where you are coming from.

              But there are a lot on here that want him found guilty – simply because of the damage it could do to [you know who].

              Honestly – I just hope that justice prevails – whatever the outcome and that people can accept the verdict from people who have heard all the facts.

              Note – if he is guilty – I hope they throw the book at him.

              • Puckish Rogue

                Agreed, if found guilty then he needs to be named while suppressing all details of the victims and his relationship to the victims

              • Rosie

                He’s been found not guilty. Stuff still have the story under the original heading:

                http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/78824702/prominent-new-zealander-trial-jury-at-stalemate.html

                You know what? I do know of one man who was accused of attempted rape and he was actually innocent. The complainant had a certain motivation against this man. I do know how his life was affected for quite some before the charges were dropped.

                However, the issue is that, to quote a completely misunderstood politician, “family and sexual violence is perpetrated overwhelmingly by men, so the first message to men out there is to wake up, stand up man up and stop this bullshit”.

                Key word is “overwhelmingly”. So you know the odds are stacked against women and children.

                http://areyouok.org.nz/family-violence/statistics/

                I think it was quite normal to be suspicious of the man in this case, given our statistics in NZ. But he has been not found guilty. That has to be accepted.

              • left for dead

                To james

                But there are a lot on here that want him found guilty – simply because of the damage it could do to [you know who].

                You believe that, your fucken idiot.

                To many prominent people are getting away with this heinous crime, and you Mr are politicizing this, their is censorship, so I will stop here for the moment.

  10. Puckish Rogue 12

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/78821057/labour-leader-andrew-little-to-release-tax-records-back-to-2010-but-key-refuses

    – Wow a publicity stunt from a Labour leader…theres no way this could backfire

    Little said he could not speak for his finance spokesman Grant Robertson. “He tells me his tax affairs are more boring than mine.”

    A publicity stunt and a mention of Grant Robertson… this is smart from Andrew Little

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/news/snapper-review/9065298/David-Shearers-dead-snapper-stunt

    • James 12.1

      Do you think thats little trying to push robertson under the bus?

      • Puckish Rogue 12.1.1

        Well anything’s possible and he is a lawyer but in this case I’m thinking it wouldn’t be the first time Mr Robertson has set up a rival

  11. saveNZ 13

    I think we are more interested in seeing Key’s tax returns for the last 8 years he has been PM.

    Nothing to hide nothing to fear and all that.

    Plus John Key is sooooo honest, cos he tells us that. And gives all his salary to charity. NZ is not a tax haven and he his blind trusts are irrelevant. I’m sure he doesn’t have quillions in his kids names around the globe.

    Lets find out if he is telling the truth?

    • Puckish Rogue 13.1

      Oh you poor blind, deluded fool (and I don’t mean that harshly) you and others like yourself have so much irrational hatred for John Key built up that you’re just like a dog barking at any passing car in the forlorn hope that’ll finally be the issue to bring down John Key

      Most people will see it for what it is and that’s just a cheap, meaningless political stunt.

      They’ll think that they wouldn’t want their tax returns published so why should John Key

      They’ll think of course John Key has trusts because he’s wealthy (he’s never hidden it) and they’ll think they’d do the same if they were in his position

      They’ll think as long as he’s following the rules then its ok

      and then they’ll think of Labour and all they’ll think of is spite, negativity and malice

      • Gabby 13.1.1

        It’s not really all that irrational.

      • b waghorn 13.1.2

        I have meet people who still think saint key gives all his pm wages to charity so at least it would clear that little myth up.

      • BM 13.1.3

        Most people will see it for what it is and that’s just a cheap, meaningless political stunt.

        This, especially when Littles tax records are just his pay slips for the time he’s been a MP.

        Obvious political stunt is obvious.

        • saveNZ 13.1.3.1

          I can see this has clearly rattled a nerve with our Troll Key Cheerleaders.

          Not really irrational when David Cameron is releasing his tax returns.

          And the Icelandic PM has had to resign.

          But Key still claims NZ is not a tax haven he himself advocated for when NZ is mentioned 60,000 times in the Panama papers.

          • BM 13.1.3.1.1

            Not really irrational when David Cameron is releasing his tax returns.

            And the Icelandic PM has had to resign.

            What has that got to do with John Keys tax?

            • Macro 13.1.3.1.1.1

              What has that got to do with John Keys tax?

              That’s what we want to know!
              What is it that he is desperately trying to hide?
              Remember that this is the result of only one of the four largest firms dealing in this sort of stuff. It implicates 140 politicians around the globe avoiding tax in their own countries or worse.
              We know Key has “blind” trusts.
              The chances are he is as heavily implicated in this sort of shinanagans as the rest.

              • BM

                Has John Key been implicated?

                • Puckish Rogue

                  Apparently that doesn’t matter, he just looks guilty

                  • Macro

                    If he looks guilty and he is not – then he should prove that he is not.

                    • McFlock

                      Or in other words, it’s not good enough for our public officials to merely be honest. They must be demonstrably honest.

                      That’s one thing I learned from my security days – someone checking up on me wasn’t that they didn’t trust me, it was so that if shit happened in a high risk environment, they could vouch that I’d done everything properly.

                    • Puckish Rogue

                      “If he looks guilty and he is not – then he should prove that he is not.”

                      I think you may have had an intimate relationship with a farmyard animal because you look guilty of it, please provide proof that you haven’t.

                      *Just as an example of why that line of reasoning is not a good one to use

                    • BM

                      Or I think you have child pornography on your computer.

                      If you don’t hand over your computer so we can check it out, you’re obviously guilty.

                      Maybe someone should run that one past Andrew Little, see how he reacts.

                    • McFlock

                      Seems only fair that the people know whether the person who railroaded through the changes that made NZ a tax haven (and then ignored advice on seven separate occasions to rectify the problem) benefitted personally from those changes.

                • Macro

                  that is what we want to find out!
                  We know he is a lying bastard – especially where his personal trusts are concerned. He has been the one driving, the new zero tax regime for foreign investors (quid pro quo?), and he is the one who has appointed the sham Shewan to do a whitewash of the whole affair. His actions speak of one giant arse cover-up!

                • saveNZ

                  Yep, in the panama papers NZ has 60,000 mentions.

                  I’m sure with all those long holidays in the US, that is probably the tax haven of choice for Key though, and with friends there to protect him.

                  • ranfurz

                    60,000 mentions out of what, 1.1 million documents?

                    So mentioned in 0.55% of them? Amazing.

                    • dv

                      Ooooooh another who can do arithmetic
                      WOW

                    • ranfurz

                      I’ve seen much higher percentages (falls in Labour polling for example) dismissed on this forum as not important.

                    • McFlock

                      yes. Because numbers get their meaning and importance from their context. 60 is a number. $60 in your pocket is pretty good. 60 charges against you in court is pretty bad. But your IQ of 60 should get you off most of those charges due to mental incompetence.

                      The meaning and importance comes from the context.

                    • Hi ranfurz,

                      You might want to check your arithmetic.

                      1,100,000 documents. 60,000 mentions. Think about it.

                      Here’s a clue: 60,000 is 1% of 6,000,000

                      More than 1 in 20 documents, on average, mentioned New Zealand.

                      (Of course, presumably some documents mentioned New Zealand more than once.)

                    • The lost sheep

                      @ Mcflock
                      60 is a number. $60 in your pocket is pretty good. 60 charges against you in court is pretty bad. But your IQ of 60 should get you off most of those charges due to mental incompetence

                      60 is pretty good or pretty bad? And this from someone who once claimed that…
                      “75,000 might or might not be significant”

                      It’s all in the context….and the context is what suits you at the time as far as I can see.

                    • McFlock

                      That’s because you can’t see very far at all.

                      Fuck 75,000, 75 million might be insignificant: 75 million tonnes of gold or 75 million gold atoms would have significantly different value, no?

                      But you’d argue that 75 million gold atoms (a tiny fraction of a gram) is just as a significant amount of gold as around 100 times all the gold ever mined. Because you’re a moron.

                      context is what suits you at the time

                      No, context is “the parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.” Learn english, fucko.

                • adam

                  Oh stop with the poor me routine BM, it was tiresome days ago. Today it just a bit sickening. Add to the conversation.

                  If you want to winge, go over to whale oil, I’m sure that hate munger will wallow in crap you are spinning.

                • Sabine

                  I really don’t see what the fuss is about. If dear Leader has got nothing to hide he should simply roll out his tax returns.

                  Fuck, we ask for more from someone who is simply applying for an unemployment benefit after they lost their jobs.

                  If he has nothing to hide he should show his returns.

                  • Puckish Rogue

                    “If he has nothing to hide he should show his returns”

                    Because hes done nothing wrong or been shown to have done anything wrong or theres been nothing to link him to anything wrong because you’re just fishing for evidence…any of the above really

                    How long have these documents been out for…over a year, I’d bet Nicky Hagers already had a look so if there was anything it’d be known about already

                    Unless of course Nicky just sits on it until about 4 weeks out from the next election like the little creep he is

                    • Graeme

                      There’s really only one response to that, and that’s a quote from Frank Marvin, the late editor of Mountain Scene, my local paper.

                      “If you don’t want it on the front page, don’t do it”

                      Frank was a top man, and utterly fearless in his reporting of the goings on around Queenstown and always had plenty of material. He was very effective at keeping the place in order. His world view was quite different to Hager’s though.

                    • Macro

                      Every year since 2006 MP’s have been required to declare their Financial Interests
                      MP’s should also be unaverse to declaring their tax returns as well if they have nothing to hide. They are the ones who set the taxes – they should show they they are above board in that regard as well.

          • Puckish Rogue 13.1.3.1.2

            Seriously, some on the right comment on something dumb a Labour leader does and its taken as we’re rattled

            So let me guess if we don’t comment on something dumb the Labour leader de jour does then that also proves we’re rattled?

            • adam 13.1.3.1.2.1

              When you cry wolf all the time, when most of what you say is a lie, and sorry Puckish Rouge, but your track record is quite bad – especially when you parrot the party line.

              So here is some hints; Try not lying, try being reasonable, try not ranting with hyperbole some time, and we may listen.

              Then again in this case the national government dropped the ball, they created a tax haven, tarnished our good name and besmirched us all.

              The problem is national party supporters like yourself rather than own up to that, go on the attack. Engage in dirty politics and then moan about it when we call you on it.

              The poor me routine is very bloody tiresome. As is the distractions. I see your boy Brash decided Racism was the distraction the government needed this time.

              So quite frankly Puckish Rogue, a amoral punter like yourself, could take a look at the lack of morals shown in the last few days or you could just carry on moaning.

      • Macro 13.1.4

        But when one thinks of Key and Trusts – all one can think of is lying and feathering his own nest

  12. ianmac 14

    Andrew Little has just tabled his Income Tax Records in the House. Now where is Key’s?

    • BM 14.1

      Everyone already knows Andrew Little’s tax record, MP’s salaries are public knowledge.

  13. Anno1701 15

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/78824702/prominent-new-zealander-trial-jury-at-stalemate.html

    “Prominent New Zealander trial: Not Guilty”

    Any one really surprised ?

    • Magisterium 15.1

      Since I wasn’t on the jury and didn’t hear the evidence, I’m neither surprised nor unsurprised.

      • Anno1701 15.1.1

        “I’m neither surprised nor unsurprised.”

        clearly some kind of nihilist….

        edgy !

    • McFlock 15.2

      Not really. Tough on the kids.

      Still, I doubt that many people who know him would now ask him to be a child-minder.

  14. ianmac 16

    Prominent Kiwi sex charge case: Not guilty to all charges

    • saveNZ 16.1

      Helps so much if you are protected by people in high places, what career you used to have and expensive lawyers to plant seeds of doubt.

      • Macro 16.1.1

        Exactly – I’ve sat on the jury one of these sort of cases and after 2 weeks of evidence and a whole raft of “prominent NZers” giving “evidence in support” of the accused – convicted and discharged.
        Anyone else would be in the big house.

        • James 16.1.1.1

          He was found not-guilty based on the evidence.

          and far from a whole raft of “prominent NZers” giving “evidence in support”

          It sounds like it was more the evidence of the girls not being backed up, or changing.

          You were not there, nor did you hear all the evidence – so its stupid, to suggest that anyone else would be in the “big house”.

  15. ianmac 17

    I suppose we have to accept the jury decision. Assuming he is innocent it will find it hard to be left alone with other people’s kids. Stigma is not always fair.

    • McFlock 17.1

      Fuck, I avoid being left alone with kids anyway, and haven’t been accused of a damned thing.

      Massaging kids is a bit weird (regardless of everything else), too.

      • BM 17.1.1

        Physios, fucking deviants.

        • McFlock 17.1.1.1

          There’s a difference between that and doing it socially. Although I’m prepared to accept it might be a cultural variation I have, but the only people I’ve given or received social massages from have been folks with whom it added a little frisson of enjoyment to both. Just as Tony Rockyhorror should have known.

      • Anno1701 17.1.2

        “Massaging kids is a bit weird ”

        we had a teacher who did exactly that at my primary school many many years ago….

        he was arrested, charged and did 18 months…

      • ianmac 17.1.3

        I wonder how it would have panned out had it been a teacher giving massages to kids?

        • Puckish Rogue 17.1.3.1

          Will the guy get his old job back…will they want him back?

        • Expat 17.1.3.2

          I wonder if he’ll be [r0b: deleted for obvious legal reasons] now?

          History repeating it’s self, ignoring evidence from children, because their children, and therefore lack credibility.

          • McFlock 17.1.3.2.1

            that’s one of those comments that you expect to be replaced by modface bold reasonably soon…

            Aye!

          • James 17.1.3.2.2

            That has to be close to be breaking suppression orders.

            Mods may want to make a call on that one.

            Indeed.

          • Expat 17.1.3.2.3

            Ooops, apologies!

            Regardless of this case, all too often, the “privileged” are able to manipulate outcomes in court hearings, justice, sometimes, appears to be a commodity.

            • Anne 17.1.3.2.3.1

              http://thehandmirror.blogspot.co.nz/2016/04/making-him-stop.html

              Excerpt:

              See, here’s the thing. I don’t believe you, Mr “Prominent Man.” I think you were grooming the girls so you could keep sexually abusing them. I think that’s why you were buying them things. I think it was going to get worse – as one girl said, she was scared you were going to rape her – and I think the best outcome of this whole travesty is that the girls actually got it to stop.

              I was up against a Public Service superior years ago who was terrorising me (no, not sexually but something equally as frightening) both in the workplace and beyond. I reported him to the management. He lied to them. They believed him because of his superior position. My career ended in tatters but at least the terrorising stopped.

              • Expat

                Anne

                My wife had a similar experience with one of her previous employers, at the final hearing, the employer thought they had the case wrapped up, my wife is not good at defending herself, so knowing the circumstances of the case, I spoke up and put forward a couple of very pertinent questions surrounding the validity of the accusations against my wife, these questions resulted in a win for my wife, but if I hadn’t been there, the employer would have won, he had tried to pay off our lawyer with a bribe as well, I’m just glad Iv’e got a big mouth and a willingness to challenge the BS.

            • The Gormless Fool formerly known as Oleolebiscuitbarrell 17.1.3.2.3.2

              Yeah, fucking Doug Graham and Bill Jeffries buying their convictions.

  16. ianmac 18

    “Prime Minister John Key has declared a short term deposit to a company specialising in foreign trusts.

    The latest register of MPs pecuniary interests listed the Antipodes Trust Group Limited as a debtor in Key’s entry. The register was released today.

    On its website, the Antipodes Trust calls itself a specialist provider or trustee and associated services for foreign trusts using New Zealand as their jurisdiction of choice.”
    Anyone know what this means? Good or Bad?
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/78838228/prime-minister-john-key-deposited-money-with-company-specialising-in-foreign-trusts

    • ranfurz 18.1

      It’s the firm his lawyer works for now. So likeliest explanation is that Key’s lawyer held the deposit for something in trust (the firm’s trust) for a short time, as is usual when making decent sized financial transactions. One example – many here bought a house? The usual process is the deposit is held by your lawyer in a trust until settlement.

      Keep in mind the declarations for this register were made before 31st Jan 2016 – it’s not like Key has suddenly declared this transaction in the wake of the Panama Papers.

      • te reo putake 18.1.1

        Its not like he declared it publicly himself either in all those interviews he’s done since the Panama papers came it. It must have slipped his mind.

      • William Joyce 18.1.2

        Unfortunately, it’s not a smoking gun. This appears to be just a financial “interest”, held in trust by a lawyer, acting on Key’s behalf, for some as yet unknown purpose.
        There appears to be no tax avoidance or evasion that we can see. He was required to declare it and was right to do so.
        Despite the attempts by Patrick Gower et al to suggest that the funds held are suspect by association with the company the lawyer now works for are a bit much.
        To have Key caught out would a delight but alas – but I will be watching this space

        • Muttonbird 18.1.2.1

          Not sure any legitimate poster here has suggested this is a smoking gun. BM and his right wing allies are suggesting the socially conscious left believe it to be a smoking gun but that is not the case.

          Given the current attention around New Zealand being a soft touch for secretive funds, this is what the media says it is – embarrassing for John Key.

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  • Should the RBNZ be looking through climate inflation?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
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  • Gordon Campbell on the public sector carnage, and misogyny as terrorism
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  • Meeting the Master Baiters
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  • How extreme was the Earth's temperature in 2023
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  • Backbone, revisited
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
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  • Ministers are not above the law
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    2 days ago
  • What’s the outfit you can hear going down the gurgler? Probably it’s David Parker’s Oceans Sec...
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    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    2 days ago
  • Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago
  • Matt Doocey doubles down on trans “healthcare”
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    2 days ago
  • A TikTok Prime Minister.
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    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    2 days ago
  • Texas Lessons
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
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  • Fighting poverty on the holiday highway
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    2 days ago
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • At a glance – Is the science settled?
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    3 days ago
  • Apposite Quotations.
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    3 days ago
  • What’s a life worth now?
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    3 days ago
  • Howling at the Moon
    Karl du Fresne writes –  There’s a crisis in the news media and the media are blaming it on everyone except themselves. Culpability is being deflected elsewhere – mainly to the hapless Minister of Communications, Melissa Lee, and the big social media platforms that are accused of hoovering ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • Newshub is Dead.
    I don’t normally send out two newsletters in a day but I figured I’d say something about… the news. If two newsletters is a bit much then maybe just skip one, I don’t want to overload people. Alternatively if you’d be interested in sometimes receiving multiple, smaller updates from me, ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    3 days ago
  • Seymour is chuffed about cutting early-learning red tape – but we hear, too, that Jones has loose...
    Buzz from the Beehive David Seymour and Winston Peters today signalled that at least two ministers of the Crown might be in Wellington today. Seymour (as Associate Minister of Education) announced the removal of more red tape, this time to make it easier for new early learning services to be ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    3 days ago
  • Bryce Edwards: Will politicians let democracy die in the darkness?
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    Democracy ProjectBy bryce.edwards
    3 days ago
  • Was Hawkesby entirely wrong?
    David Farrar  writes –  The Broadcasting Standards Authority ruled: Comments by radio host Kate Hawkesby suggesting Māori and Pacific patients were being prioritised for surgery due to their ethnicity were misleading and discriminatory, the Broadcasting Standards Authority has found. It is a fact such patients are prioritised. ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • PRC shadow looms as the Solomons head for election
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    3 days ago
  • Climate Change: Criminal ecocide
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    No Right TurnBy Idiot/Savant
    3 days ago
  • Is saving one minute of a politician's time worth nearly $1 billion?
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    3 days ago
  • Long Tunnel or Long Con?
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  • Smoke And Mirrors.
    You're a fraud, and you know itBut it's too good to throw it all awayAnyone would do the sameYou've got 'em goingAnd you're careful not to show itSometimes you even fool yourself a bitIt's like magicBut it's always been a smoke and mirrors gameAnyone would do the sameForty six billion ...
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  • What is Mexico doing about climate change?
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    3 days ago
  • State of humanity, 2024
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    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    4 days ago
  • Govt’s Wellington tunnel vision aims to ease the way to the airport (but zealous promoters of cycl...
    Buzz from the Beehive A pet project and governmental tunnel vision jump out from the latest batch of ministerial announcements. The government is keen to assure us of its concern for the wellbeing of our pets. It will be introducing pet bonds in a change to the Residential Tenancies Act ...
    Point of OrderBy Bob Edlin
    4 days ago
  • The case for cultural connectedness
    A recent report generated from a Growing Up in New Zealand (GUiNZ) survey of 1,224 rangatahi Māori aged 11-12 found: Cultural connectedness was associated with fewer depression symptoms, anxiety symptoms and better quality of life. That sounds cut and dry. But further into the report the following appears: Cultural connectedness is ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Useful context on public sector job cuts
    David Farrar writes –    The Herald reports: From the gory details of job-cuts news, you’d think the public service was being eviscerated.   While the media’s view of the cuts is incomplete, it’s also true that departments have been leaking the particulars faster than a Wellington ...
    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    4 days ago
  • Gordon Campbell On When Racism Comes Disguised As Anti-racism
    Remember the good old days, back when New Zealand had a PM who could think and speak calmly and intelligently in whole sentences without blustering? Even while Iran’s drones and missiles were still being launched, Helen Clark was live on TVNZ expertly summing up the latest crisis in the Middle ...
    4 days ago
  • Govt ignored economic analysis of smokefree reversal
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    The KakaBy Bernard Hickey
    4 days ago
  • True Blue.
    True loveYou're the one I'm dreaming ofYour heart fits me like a gloveAnd I'm gonna be true blueBaby, I love youI’ve written about the job cuts in our news media last week. The impact on individuals, and the loss to Aotearoa of voices covering our news from different angles.That by ...
    Nick’s KōreroBy Nick Rockel
    4 days ago
  • Who is running New Zealand’s foreign policy?
    While commentators, including former Prime Minister Helen Clark, are noting a subtle shift in New Zealand’s foreign policy, which now places more emphasis on the United States, many have missed a key element of the shift. What National said before the election is not what the government is doing now. ...
    PolitikBy Richard Harman
    4 days ago
  • 2024 SkS Weekly Climate Change & Global Warming News Roundup #15
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    5 days ago
  • Feline Friends and Fragile Fauna The Complexities of Cats in New Zealand’s Conservation Efforts

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  • Or is that just they want us to think?
    Nice guy, that Peter Williams. Amiable, a calm air of no-nonsense capability, a winning smile. Everything you look for in a TV presenter and newsreader.I used to see him sometimes when I went to TVNZ to be a talking head or a panellist and we would yarn. Nice guy, that ...
    More Than A FeildingBy David Slack
    5 days ago
  • Fact Brief – Did global warming stop in 1998?
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    6 days ago
  • Arguing over a moot point.
    I have been following recent debates in the corporate and social media about whether it is a good idea for NZ to join what is known as “AUKUS Pillar Two.” AUKUS is the Australian-UK-US nuclear submarine building agreement in which … Continue reading ...
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  • No Longer Trusted: Ageing Boomers, Laurie & Les, Talk Politics.
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  • Mortgage rates at 10% anyone?
    No – nothing about that in PM Luxon’s nine-point plan to improve the lives of New Zealanders. But beyond our shores Jamie Dimon, the long-serving head of global bank J.P. Morgan Chase, reckons that the chances of a goldilocks soft landing for the economy are “a lot lower” than the ...
    Point of OrderBy xtrdnry
    6 days ago
  • Sad tales from the left
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    Point of OrderBy poonzteam5443
    6 days ago
  • In Whose Best Interests?
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  • Don’t Question, Don’t Complain.
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    6 days ago

  • Minister to Europe for OECD meeting, Anzac Day
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    1 hour ago
  • Comprehensive Partnership the goal for NZ and the Philippines
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with the President of the Philippines, Ferdinand Marcos Jr.  The Prime Minister was accompanied by MP Paulo Garcia, the first Filipino to be elected to a legislature outside the Philippines. During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon and President Marcos Jr discussed opportunities to ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    12 hours ago
  • Government commits $20m to Westport flood protection
    The Government has announced that $20 million in funding will be made available to Westport to fund much needed flood protection around the town. This measure will significantly improve the resilience of the community, says Local Government Minister Simeon Brown. “The Westport community has already been allocated almost $3 million ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    18 hours ago
  • Taupō takes pole position
    The Government is proud to support the first ever Repco Supercars Championship event in Taupō as up to 70,000 motorsport fans attend the Taupō International Motorsport Park this weekend, says Economic Development Minister Melissa Lee. “Anticipation for the ITM Taupō Super400 is huge, with tickets and accommodation selling out weeks ...
    BeehiveBy beehive.govt.nz
    19 hours ago
  • Cost of living support for low-income homeowners
    Local Government Minister Simeon Brown has announced an increase to the Rates Rebate Scheme, putting money back into the pockets of low-income homeowners.  “The coalition Government is committed to bringing down the cost of living for New Zealanders. That includes targeted support for those Kiwis who are doing things tough, such ...
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    21 hours ago
  • Government backing mussel spat project
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    22 hours ago
  • Government focused on getting people into work
    Benefit figures released today underscore the importance of the Government’s plan to rebuild the economy and have 50,000 fewer people on Jobseeker Support, Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston says. “Benefit numbers are still significantly higher than when National was last in government, when there was about 70,000 fewer ...
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    1 day ago
  • Clean energy key driver to reducing emissions
    The Government’s commitment to doubling New Zealand’s renewable energy capacity is backed by new data showing that clean energy has helped the country reach its lowest annual gross emissions since 1999, Climate Change Minister Simon Watts says. New Zealand’s latest Greenhouse Gas Inventory (1990-2022) published today, shows gross emissions fell ...
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    1 day ago
  • Earthquake-prone buildings review brought forward
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    1 day ago
  • Thailand and NZ to agree to Strategic Partnership
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and his Thai counterpart, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin, have today agreed that New Zealand and the Kingdom of Thailand will upgrade the bilateral relationship to a Strategic Partnership by 2026. “New Zealand and Thailand have a lot to offer each other. We have a strong mutual desire to build ...
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    2 days ago
  • Government consults on extending coastal permits for ports
    RMA Reform Minister Chris Bishop and Transport Minister Simeon Brown have today announced the Coalition Government’s intention to extend port coastal permits for a further 20 years, providing port operators with certainty to continue their operations. “The introduction of the Resource Management Act in 1991 required ports to obtain coastal ...
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  • Inflation coming down, but more work to do
    Today’s announcement that inflation is down to 4 per cent is encouraging news for Kiwis, but there is more work to be done - underlining the importance of the Government’s plan to get the economy back on track, acting Finance Minister Chris Bishop says. “Inflation is now at 4 per ...
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    2 days ago
  • School attendance restored as a priority in health advice
    Refreshed health guidance released today will help parents and schools make informed decisions about whether their child needs to be in school, addressing one of the key issues affecting school attendance, says Associate Education Minister David Seymour. In recent years, consistently across all school terms, short-term illness or medical reasons ...
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  • Unnecessary bureaucracy cut in oceans sector
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  • Patterson promoting NZ’s wool sector at International Congress
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  • Removing red tape to help early learners thrive
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  • RMA changes to cut coal mining consent red tape
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    3 days ago
  • McClay reaffirms strong NZ-China trade relationship
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  • Prime Minister Luxon acknowledges legacy of Singapore Prime Minister Lee
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon today paid tribute to Singapore’s outgoing Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.   Meeting in Singapore today immediately before Prime Minister Lee announced he was stepping down, Prime Minister Luxon warmly acknowledged his counterpart’s almost twenty years as leader, and the enduring legacy he has left for Singapore and South East ...
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  • PMs Luxon and Lee deepen Singapore-NZ ties
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon held a bilateral meeting today with Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. While in Singapore as part of his visit to South East Asia this week, Prime Minister Luxon also met with Singapore President Tharman Shanmugaratnam and will meet with Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong.  During today’s meeting, Prime Minister Luxon ...
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  • Antarctica New Zealand Board appointments
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  • Finance Minister travels to Washington DC
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  • Pet bonds a win/win for renters and landlords
    The coalition Government has today announced purrfect and pawsitive changes to the Residential Tenancies Act to give tenants with pets greater choice when looking for a rental property, says Housing Minister Chris Bishop. “Pets are important members of many Kiwi families. It’s estimated that around 64 per cent of New ...
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  • Long Tunnel for SH1 Wellington being considered
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  • New Zealand condemns Iranian strikes
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon and Foreign Minister Winston Peters have condemned Iran’s shocking and illegal strikes against Israel.    “These attacks are a major challenge to peace and stability in a region already under enormous pressure," Mr Luxon says.    "We are deeply concerned that miscalculation on any side could ...
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  • Huge interest in Government’s infrastructure plans
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    7 days ago
  • Health Minister thanks outgoing Health New Zealand Chair
    Health Minister Dr Shane Reti has today thanked outgoing Health New Zealand – Te Whatu Ora Chair Dame Karen Poutasi for her service on the Board.   “Dame Karen tendered her resignation as Chair and as a member of the Board today,” says Dr Reti.  “I have asked her to ...
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  • Roads of National Significance planning underway
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  • Navigating an unstable global environment
    New Zealand is renewing its connections with a world facing urgent challenges by pursuing an active, energetic foreign policy, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.   “Our country faces the most unstable global environment in decades,” Mr Peters says at the conclusion of two weeks of engagements in Egypt, Europe and the United States.    “We cannot afford to sit back in splendid ...
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  • NZ welcomes Australian Governor-General
    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon has announced the Australian Governor-General, His Excellency General The Honourable David Hurley and his wife Her Excellency Mrs Linda Hurley, will make a State visit to New Zealand from Tuesday 16 April to Thursday 18 April. The visit reciprocates the State visit of former Governor-General Dame Patsy Reddy ...
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  • Pseudoephedrine back on shelves for Winter
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  • NZ and the US: an ever closer partnership
    New Zealand and the United States have recommitted to their strategic partnership in Washington DC today, pledging to work ever more closely together in support of shared values and interests, Foreign Minister Winston Peters says.    “The strategic environment that New Zealand and the United States face is considerably more ...
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  • Joint US and NZ declaration
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