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Open mike 14/06/2014

Written By: - Date published: 6:30 am, June 14th, 2014 - 224 comments
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224 comments on “Open mike 14/06/2014”

  1. (jamaica has decriminalised marijuana..mon..!

    ..here are some classic reggae pot-songs..

    ..so you can celebrate with a suitable soundtrack..)

    http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/jun/13/classic-reggae-ganja-anthems-jamaica

    • joe90 1.1

      Meanwhile, six months into Colorado’s green experiment, money is flowing and crime is decreasing.

      This week, official data from the U.S. revealed that the murder rate in Denver (capital city of the state of Colorado) is down 52.9% since the use of recreational marijuana was legalised in the state last January. This means that while there were 17 murders in Denver alone from January to June 2013, in 2014, the number went down to 8.

      Not only that, but sexual assaults have also dropped by 13.6%, auto theft is down 36.3%, robberies in general by 4.8%, crimes against property by 11.4% and aggravated assaults by 3.7%.

      According to experts, although very little time has passed since marijuana was legalised in the state, the results do not seem to be the product of mere chance.

      https://www.lamota.org/en/blog/colorado-crime-legalisation/

      • phillip ure 1.1.1

        wow..!..that’s some cool stats/facts there..

        ..(they should be sent to every politician..

        ..and maybe that high-profile pot-fretter..jim mora..?..)..

        ..chrs..i’ll link to it..

        ..and over on the financial ledger side..

        ..the pot industry in california is worth $23 billion to the californian economy each year..

        • phillip ure 1.1.1.1

          and no wonder cops oppose legalisation..eh..?

          ..it’s all a matter of patch/funding-protection for them..

          ..if crime dropped here by such radical-rates..+ no pot-criminals to chase/lock-up..

          ..there wd be less need for them getting ever-increasing funding/new-tasers/fun in helicopters hunting pot etc..etc..

          ..they would get less resources..

          ..it’s as simple as that..

      • Colonial Viper 1.1.2

        This week, official data from the U.S. revealed that the murder rate in Denver (capital city of the state of Colorado) is down 52.9% since the use of recreational marijuana was legalised in the state last January.

        Give the masses their soma; the power elite might find it quite an agreeable thing to do going forward if it keeps the riots and civil disobedience at bay.

        • phillip ure 1.1.2.1

          it could go either way..

          ..as in once that is sorted..it’s a matter of ‘what’s next..?

          ..that could temper their soma-urges..

        • Lanthanide 1.1.2.2

          With a bleak future between energy scarcity and climate change, I think soma is a distinct possibility.

        • emergency mike 1.1.2.3

          “Give the masses their soma; the power elite might find it quite an agreeable thing to do going forward if it keeps the riots and civil disobedience at bay.”

          I think you might be confusing cannibis with television there CV. Also, you might want to look up civil disobedience in wikipedia (there’s a picture of Ghandi), because I couldn’t find murder, sexual assault, nor car theft in the ‘techniques’ section.

          Furthermore, in my experience cannabis culture reliably leads to an increased distrust of authority, greater interest in creative pursuits, and much, much less interest in the working trap pay your taxes get a mortgage train your kids to do it too then you die ain’t it grand lark. Soma it’s not.

  2. “..Teen Marijuana Use Remains Flat Nationwide – As More States Legalise..”

    “..As marijuana’s national popularity continues to grow-

    • and more states have legalized either medical or recreational use of it -
    • a new federal survey shows that those shifting attitudes have not produced a surge in teen use..”

    (cont.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/13/teen-marijuana-use-flat_n_5492135.html?ref=topbar

    • JanM 3.1

      What on earth makes anyone think that making something legal is going to attract a teenager, for goodness sake?

      • phillip ure 3.1.1

        well..that is one of the main arguments of the prohibitionists..

        ..should we call it the mrs reverend lovejoy-syndrome..?

        ..’won’t somebody think of the children..!..’

      • Colonial Viper 3.1.2

        What on earth makes anyone think that making something legal is going to attract a teenager, for goodness sake?

        Lowering the drinking age to 18 did.

      • Lanthanide 3.1.3

        Making it legal certainly would increase incidental and ‘first-time’ usage, but I doubt it would do much to swell the ranks of regular users.

        • phillip ure 3.1.3.1

          in america the uptake has been seen in those in their 40′s – 50′s – and 60′s..

          ..because..any teenagers wanting to smoke..wd already be doing it..legal or illegal..

          ..it is their elders who have been cowed into submission by prohibition..

  3. Saarbo 4

    This is actually a bloody good article from Fran O in todays Herald.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11273606

    I think she is calling for a tougher CGT as well!

    • Draco T Bastard 4.1

      Key would be a shoo-in at the September 20 election as political leader if this country enjoyed a presidential system instead of the rag-tag MMP system we have here.

      There’s the attack on MMP.

      Not simply being skilled at finding the centre of politics. Or managing the economy – where his Government does deserve credit.

      And that’s just a small portion of the kissing of John Key’s arse in that piece.

      Can’t really say I saw anything of worth in there.

    • Ad 4.2

      Irrespective of her politics she is a wise head. Something needs to click inside a Prime Minsiter who is coasting to victory at the end of his third term: it’s a will to monumentality, that will to rank oneself in the history books for having achieved something. To become one of the greatest.

      There will be many reviews of his Prime Minsitership as the election looms – and he deserves the praise Fran awards him.

      But with such momentum going into a third term, including in particular many parts of the economy, he needs to ask whether a merely excellent managerial record will be enough.

      Helen Clark bequeathed us the Rugby World Cup, and the greatest sustained economic boom we have ever had outside of a world war.

      John Key will leave us with a similar economic surge, the Sky City Casino, the Lord of the Rings second set of films, management of the Christchurch earthquake rebuild, and a recovery after the GFC that largely left the social service network New Zealand has been used to intact. Pretty rare if we look across the OECD.

      A part of his ego needs to kick in that only leaders have: what greatness will he leave? Will he simply be a more inspiring and secure Bolger? Can he leave us in a better place than Clark? Regrettably it is currently likely that he and his party will win the election, and in that circumstance I want him to go big.

      • Colonial Viper 4.2.1

        Helen Clark bequeathed us the Rugby World Cup, and the greatest sustained economic boom we have ever had outside of a world war.

        Yes, as long as we remember that it was all built on an unsustainable massive local and international private sector debt and asset price bubble. Just keep saying that so no one forgets, it’s where all the money flowing into the NZ spending economy came from.

        • Ad 4.2.1.1

          Without high internal savings rates, the only alternative is external debt.
          You’re about to provide a counterfactual history for Helen Clark’s economic leadership in which New Zealanders could or should have put their debt into something besides housing? They weren’t “transformational” enough?
          Or did you miss Labour’s unemployment stats for that era?

          • Colonial Viper 4.2.1.1.1

            Steve Keen the Australian economist has demonstrated over and over again that employment is the inverse of debt acceleration. The money which accelerating debt levels pushes into the economy is the major driver in creating jobs.

            The moment debt acceleration halts – unemployment significantly worsens. Which is to be expected as debt supplied money into the economy dries up.

            Without high internal savings rates, the only alternative is external debt.

            High levels of household savings significantly depress consumer spending into the economy. Remember the mantra of our leaders has been “growth.” While increasing savings or paying off debt may indeed be a personal good, if everyone does it a severe recession will result.

            • Ad 4.2.1.1.1.1

              To get back to the actual point Fran has made, here’s a poser for you:
              If John Key is re-elected, what’s the best he should deliver for the New Zealand economy?

              Remember, he’s not a no-growth, no-debt, socialist, nationalising guy.

              • Colonial Viper

                I just spent 15 minutes composing a comment describing a policy platform for National constructed around concretely realising the “New Zealand Inc – Open to the world for New Business” vision of the nation.

                Then I deleted it because if National ran with anything along those lines, Key would win a 3rd term hands down.

          • Draco T Bastard 4.2.1.1.2

            Without high internal savings rates, the only alternative is external debt.

            BS. We savings as much as we need foreign investment – not at all.

            • Colonial Viper 4.2.1.1.2.1

              Very few on the Left accept that government can spend NZ dollars into existence by spending money from a designated Reserve Bank account operated by Treasury, into the general economy.

              Once those dollars are in circulation they can then be saved and spent by the citizens, as appropriately encouraged by government. And that’s one way of getting internal savings.

              • Draco T Bastard

                Very few on the Left accept that government can spend NZ dollars into existence by spending money from a designated Reserve Bank account operated by Treasury, into the general economy.

                That’s because they’ve been listening to the RWNJs for too long.

                • Colonial Viper

                  And have no leverage to push back at the international banking system with. Even if they had the will.

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    And have no leverage to push back at the international banking system with.

                    Don’t really need it. Sure, we’ll probably become a pariah state but we can survive that – and the Rest of the World will go WTF??!

                    Even if they had the will.

                    And that is the problem. Of course, it’s not the politicians that need the will but the populace to push the politicians in the right direction.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      IMO only peaceful mass movements can bring about the change we want in Parliament. Which is why they try as hard as they can to keep the populace sedated and uninformed.

                      Don’t really need it. Sure, we’ll probably become a pariah state but we can survive that – and the Rest of the World will go WTF??!

                      There are actually some advantages to being aligned with Empire. I’ll admit that much. Problem is that this Empire appears to be edging into an age of insanity and is determined to go down in flames – we shouldn’t follow.

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      Which is why they try as hard as they can to keep the populace sedated and uninformed.

                      And they don’t seem to like it when you throw the truth at them. Especially when it comes to money.

                      There are actually some advantages to being aligned with Empire.

                      There certainly can be but I think I’m glad that we’re not Inner Circle in this one. Makes it easier to break off and go a different way.

                      Problem is that this Empire appears to be edging into an age of insanity and is determined to go down in flames

                      Considering that all empires have gone down in flames perhaps it’s empire that is the insanity.

      • miravox 4.2.2

        John Key will leave us with a similar economic surge, the Sky City Casino, the Lord of the Rings second set of films, management of the Christchurch earthquake rebuild, and a recovery after the GFC that largely left the social service network New Zealand has been used to intact.”

        Surely you omitted the /sarc tag?

        • Ad 4.2.2.1

          Not saying I like it, and I leave that to you to winnow fact from fiction.
          But as GDP climbs and unemployment tracks below 6%, Key could claim things are going right.
          And NZ popularity polls consistently agree.

          • Tracey 4.2.2.1.1

            fiction is the new fact

            • Colonial Viper 4.2.2.1.1.1

              The Left may think that the values it holds and its policy positions clearly represents the best interests of the bottom 90% of the population.

              However, approximately half of them don’t agree.

              • Tracey

                Agree with you. But you also know that political parties such as national and labour and ACT dont just control the message they pay money to mask it.

                Lots of people think that john key is ordinary and honest, which is exactly the image they set out to create. That half the people believe that is down to the success of the dark arts of advertising and marketing. Which is different to those who, when presented with cracks in the veneer, put their fingers in their ears and say la-a-la

                • Colonial Viper

                  Also, Labour has left a huge political space vacant on the Left. It gave plenty of room for the Greens to fill, and as the Greens have gradually marched towards the centre (accepting that they are still fairly left), breathing space for parties like Mana has opened up.

          • Ergo Robertina 4.2.2.1.2

            “John Key will leave us with a similar economic surge, the Sky City Casino, the Lord of the Rings second set of films, management of the Christchurch earthquake rebuild…’

            The Government isn’t trumpeting its actual ‘management’ of the rebuild as a success though. It’s relying on the economic stimulus for its growth figures, which is different.
            The likely effect of Chch on the ballot in Sept is being underestimated because of the Auckland-Wellington focused media.

      • phillip ure 4.2.3

        ..it won’t be his ignoring of child-poverty he will be reviled by future historians for..

        ..it won’t be his putting his boot on the back of the poors-necks..and screwing..that he will be reviled by future historians for..

        it won’t be his blowing out our debt to ‘foreign-bankers’ from $12 billion upon taking office…..to over $60 billion..(and growing..)..accompanied with/by massive tax-cuts for the wealthiest that he will be reviled by future historians for..

        ..it won’t be the asset-stripping of commonly-owned/paid-for assets that he will be reviled by future historians for..

        ..it won’t be his wholesale fanning of the evils of inequality that he will be reviled by future historians for..

        ..it won’t be his allowing american-spooks to spy all over us that he will be reviled by future historians for..

        ..it won’t be his opening up of our national parks for wholesale drilling/mining-exploration..

        ..it won’t be his attempts to sell out our sovereignty to corporates..via the tpp..that he will be reviled by future historians for..

        (i could go on..but you get the idea..)

        ..what key/this government will be reviled by future historians for..

        ..will be for what those future historians will still be wrestling with the consequences of/from..

        ..the ignoring..for craven reasons..of what they knew/had been told..

        ..namely their uncaring/ongoing trashing of the environment/world..

        ..by their just continuing to do what they knew would wreck the future..

        ..and in fact ..not only ‘doing nothing’..but actually just doing even more to ensure to fuck that future..

        ..for those future historians..

        ..it is for this that john key (and all who sail with him..)

        ..will be writ large in the annals of infamy…

        ..this is his ‘heritage’..

      • Lanthanide 4.2.4

        Why are you giving Key credit for not destroying something against the wishes of a large section of his voting base, who would love nothing more than to put strict restrictions on welfare?

        The credit goes to Labour for paying down national debt, giving the following government the financial headroom largely continue with BAU + a large tax cut.

    • ianmac 4.3

      Yes Saarbo. I had to check twice that it really was Fran’s writing! I always have the feeling that Key and his mates English, Joyce, and Brownlie make their announcements then away from the camera snigger and say of us, “Suckers!” Can you imagine agreement to cross-party discussion on Super or Electoral Reform or CGT?
      The importance of the Farrar research is to let Key know how much he can get away with rather than what is right for National philosophy. And we the people fall for it.

      • phillip ure 4.3.1

        “..The importance of the Farrar research is to let Key know how much he can get away with rather than what is right..”

        ..+1..

  4. (i just linked to a mindblowing-stat..)

    china has used more cement in the last three years..

    ..than the usa used in the whole of the 20th century…

    ..whoar..!..eh..?

    • and the clowns that rule over us..

      ..can’t even make a decent start on rebuilding christchurch in that time..

      ..that time when china has used more cement than the usa used in the whole of the 20th century..

      ..kinda puts the whole ‘we’re doing all we can!..as fast as we can..and don’t you dare question me..!’ hand-flapping of that fucken idiot brownlee into some perspective..eh..?

      ..i’m surprised the people of christchurch haven’t rioted..

      ..(must be all those ‘good schools’ they went to..eh..?..

      ..all that standing in line..does inculcate obeisance to ‘authority’..

      ..all those little..and not so little..cartmen-clones..

      ..insisting/demanding you obey their dictum:

      ..’respect my authority..!’..)

      ..three years later..?..still shivering in broken homes..

      ..but hey..!..the stadium-plans are proceeding apace..!..eh..?

      ..and rugby will be the winner on the day..eh..?

    • Chooky 5.2

      scarey!…at that rate they could concrete New Zealand several billion times over….anyone for a concreted New Zealand?

      imo….no more immigration from grossly over populated countries… They have to sort out their own over population, exploitation of women and consequent environmental trashing and pollution problems out at home…. and not export them

      Keep New Zealand Green!

      • phillip ure 5.2.1

        chooky..

        ..have you driven around new zealand lately..?

        ..are you saying we don’t have enough room..?

        ..you do know the japanese call new zealand ‘the empty islands’..eh..?

        ..and there is more than a whiff of the pull-up-the-ladder paula bennetts about anti-immigrant sentiments..

        ..i’m here..but you can’t come..

        ..and of curse the environmental-realities from future climate-change will likely make a lifeboat of nz..

        ..(libertarians must daydream about ‘taking over’ new zealand..eh..?

        ..no need fot those utopian-fantasies of building ‘free’ nation-states on discarded oil-platforms and the like..

        ..fanciful notions all..

        ..but new zealand..?..mm!!..now yr talking..!)..

        ..so given that invasion will be a likely future if we insist that ‘nobody can come here..!’..

        ..i think we should start ‘getting real’ about this..

        ..and be much more open/welcoming to economic/refugee-immigrants..

        ..(my ancestors..five generations back..were economic-refugees..

        ..celts looking for a better life..)

        • Chooky 5.2.1.1

          Depends on whether you are ecocentric or anthropocentric …..I am with the Greens and Winnie on this… and many Labour voters I know …and not a few National voters I suspect

          ….also I dont think the Tibetans or the Palestinians, who have had their lands flooded with new immigrants in recent history and been marginalised in their own countries , would agree with you…nor would the early Maori or many of the later Maori…..who were ecocentric in their Gods and ecocentric in their values and where women were respected.

          …Sorry over- population does not go with respect for the Earth or its animals or with it flora or with respect for women!

          …Over population happens in patriarchal societies where males lord it over females ..and the female population is uneducated, economically exploited and denied control of their own fertility….these countries with a gross overpopulation imbalance need to face up to social and environmental issues they have created at home!…then they will have the respect of everyone.

          In the West, feminists have fought long and hard for control over their fertility , for equal access to education and equal career opportunities and pay…Depends on whether you are ecocentric or anthropocentric …..I am with the Greens and Winnie on this… and many Labour voters I know …and not a few National voters I suspect

          ….also I dont think the Tibetans or the Palestinians, who have had their lands flooded with new immigrants, would agree with you…nor would the early Maori or many of the later Maori…..who were ecocentric in their Gods and ecocentric in their values and where women were respected.

          …Sorry over- population does not go with respect for the Earth or its animals or with it flora or with respect for women!

          ….Over population happens in patriarchal societies where males lord it over females ..and the female population is uneducated, economically exploited and denied control of their own fertility….these countries with a gross overpopulation imbalance need to face up to issues they have created at home..then they will have the respect of everyone….and they should be encouraged by developed nations to do just this!.

          In the West feminists have fought long and hard for control over their fertility , for equal access to education and equal career opportunities and pay….and the environment is also the winner ……we are not keen to see this eroded ……

          • Colonial Viper 5.2.1.1.1

            …Over population happens in patriarchal societies where males lord it over females ..and the female population is uneducated, economically exploited and denied control of their own fertility….

            Human over population has only occurred as a result of knowledge, technology and energy availability.

            Patriarchal societies have been the rule for tens of thousands of years but for almost all that time the human population has stayed at 200M or less.

            these countries with a gross overpopulation imbalance need to face up to issues they have created at home..then they will have the respect of everyone….

            This is a completely imperialist attitude. Why should these nations seek the approval of white western European-based societies, ones whose population make up only a small minority of the world population but who grab and use up the majority of the world’s resources?

            • Chooky 5.2.1.1.1.1

              @CV…Tell that to the Tibetans!…Tibet was not overpopulated by Tibetans….. and nor did they exploit their natural environment..it was treated with reverence.

              ..also Tibetans have quite a lot of support in the West for their culture and religion Buddhism and their cause against Chinese imperialism and invasion…and persecution and genocide…not to mention and overpopulating Tibet

              ….and the Tibetans also seek the support of western European-based societies

              • Colonial Viper

                Tibet fell to a regional power. That’s what happens when your country is colonised.

                • Chooky

                  no excuse for what happened in Tibet in this day and age…and what is still happening in Tibet!

                  …and we dont want it to happen here!

                  …does China regard itself as a regional power?…over all of South East Asia?….this is what we were told when we were in China

                  • Colonial Viper

                    Yes.

                    This is why the US is moving additional aircraft carrier groups to the Pacific and encouraging Japan to re-arm and re-militarise in a big way.

          • Chooky 5.2.1.1.2

            ( that comment to philip ure got mangled in the editing…should read as follows)

            Depends on whether you are ecocentric or anthropocentric …..I am with the Greens and Winnie on this… and many Labour voters I know …and not a few National voters I suspect

            ….also I dont think the Tibetans or the Palestinians, who have had their lands flooded with new immigrants in recent history and been marginalised in their own countries , would agree with you…nor would the early Maori or many of the later Maori…..who were ecocentric in their Gods and ecocentric in their values and where women were respected.

            …Sorry over- population does not go with respect for the Earth or its animals or with it flora or with respect for women!

            … Overpopulation happens in patriarchal societies where males lord it over females ..and the female population is uneducated, economically exploited and denied control of their own fertility….these countries with a gross overpopulation imbalance need to face up to issues they have created at home..then they will have the respect of everyone….and they should be encouraged by developed nations to do just this!.

            In the developed West where population is static or declining, women have acquired status ….Feminists have fought long and hard for control over their fertility , for equal access to education and equal career opportunities and pay….and the environment is also the winner !……we are not keen to see this eroded! ……

            • bad12 5.2.1.1.2.1

              The settlement of Aotearoa by Maori was in fact a story of population pressure, my lot originally from the far North a 1000 or so years ago were forced by the burgeoning population there to seek new homes,

              Their migration down the Motu to Wellington accomplished over many years through both friendly and hostile tribes, with some elements of the tribe opting to stay on in friendly places further north was essentially the same migration that the South Island tribe Ngai Tahu had made befor them,

              Mamoe having recently vacated the lands the original inhabitants Ngati Tara had allocated them for the South allowed Manaakitanga to be extended and my lot who then occupied those vacated lands,

              Thus the situation existed for a further 500 years until the next wave of internal migration occurred in the later part of the 1700′s and the early years of 1800…

        • bad12 5.2.1.2

          Interesting this ”better life” Phillip, to gain this better life your ancestors first had to remove from those that were already present here their ”standard of living”…

  5. dimebag russell 6

    they must be pretty stoned then.

  6. DH 7

    There’s been a lot of claims about Kiwis being poor savers and other claims that renting is better than owning a home. I thought I’d try some maths on it, may interest people;

    The basis of the rent discussion was this article here;

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/9776610/Low-rents-deter-home-buyers

    With a follow up here;

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/personal-finance/news/article.cfm?c_id=12&objectid=11237251

    To summarise; a person renting a $427k house at $450 per week paid $7193 pa less than a person buying the $427k house with a 20% deposit of $85k. Therefore the renter was financially better off and was renting by choice. So says the property investors federation.

    The numbers tell a different story. For the below calculations we’ve assumed a longrun interest rate on savings of 4% after tax and annual inflation of 3% on both housing and rents**.

    A person who rented and saved the $85k & $7193 pa would have saved $499,000 after 25 years (that’s with interest compounded).

    A $427,000 house will be worth $868,000 in 25 years time.

    A person paying $450 week rent now will be paying $915 week in 25 years. They will have paid an extra $268,000 in rent increases, for total rent payments of $853,000.

    The home buyer will have a $868,000 freehold house in 25yrs. They would have some increased costs from inflation on maintenance, rates, insurance, interest rate changes etc so allow $100k in ownership costs. They would have no rent increases, they’d save the $268k-$100k which would compound to $228,000.

    The renter will have nett savings of $499k and continue to pay rent.
    The home buyer will have nett savings of $1.09 million and have no more mortgage payments.

    A Kiwisaver account returning 4% after tax will need a $1.19 million balance just to pay $915 per week rent, deduct the $499k savings and the renter would need to contribute $699,000 more than the home owner. You’d have to save over $293 per week, at 4% compounding, to achieve that $699k in 25 yrs. Even at an optimistic 6% return you’d still need to save almost $180 week for a balance of $470k. And that’s just to pay the rent in your retirement… without allowing for future rent inflation.

    Clearly the renter is worse off financially by a very wide margin while we have housing inflation. It’s also clear that buying your own home ranks as saving, no real surprise why people are borrowing rather than paying more into Kiwisaver.

    Feel free to find flaws in my maths…..

    ** 4% is fairly generous, that’s term deposit rates after withholding tax is deducted and you wouldn’t get that much compounding when you’re banking your savings weekly. 3% rent & housing inflation is conversely conservative, historical inflation was higher.

    • Ad 7.1

      Nice work there.

      Do you think overall New Zealanders are saving more for their retirement than prior to Kiwisaver?

      What futher instruments beyond Kiwisaver should a future Government propose that would acelerate our savings rate?

      • DH 7.1.1

        “Do you think overall New Zealanders are saving more for their retirement than prior to Kiwisaver?”

        I don’t know the figures, a point I was making there was that paying off a mortgage is saving. The word ‘saving’ really needs to be reappraised in this context.

        “What futher instruments beyond Kiwisaver should a future Government propose that would acelerate our savings rate?”

        Well again, what do you call ‘saving’ ? As things stand most renters would be saving more for their retirement paying off a mortgage than they would putting the money into Kiwisaver.

        • Colonial Viper 7.1.1.1

          Bear in mind the big difference in liquidity between having half a million accessible in savings accounts and a million dollars not accessible locked up in the bricks and mortar of a house.

          • DH 7.1.1.1.1

            Is there really that much difference? To get decent interest rates on savings you need to lock them up on term deposit for 5 yrs. (90day TP rates are 3%, 12month 4% and 5yrs 5.5%, before tax) There’s other options but anything offering good returns usually requires locking the funds up for a period. Can sell a house quicker than that.

            • Colonial Viper 7.1.1.1.1.1

              Uh, no. Firstly you haven’t thought that you might only need say $100K in a hurry. Trying to sell a $1M house to try and find $100K of liquidity is silly. Your commission would set you back an extra $30K upfront, for instance, which is a very big cost on trying to access just $100K.

              And, no one puts $500K into a single 5 year term deposit.

              What they might do is split it into ten $50K deposits. Put them in for 12 month rolling terms, just over a month apart. That way every 5 weeks or so you have the option of accessing one lot of $50K with no interest penalty.

              • Lanthanide

                Firstly you haven’t thought that you might only need say $100K in a hurry. Trying to sell a $1M house to try and find $100K of liquidity is silly.

                That’s why we have these things called “mortgages”, where they lend you money held against your “security”, aka the house.

                • Colonial Viper

                  That’s fine Lanth, but when you’re retired, living on a significantly lower income, and almost all your net worth is tied up in your house as in this scenario, how are you going to service the mortgage without selling your home?

                  • Lanthanide

                    If you’re retired and need $100k for something, and don’t want to sell the house, then a reverse equity mortgage is the instrument you need.

                    What you’re actually saying here is “you need $100k to pay for some emergency”. In the case of access to readily liquid money, the costs on accessing this $100k will be much less than if you owned a house. Big whoop. If you own a house and end up with several hundred thousand more in assets than in the other case, even if there’s more of a penalty if you need to access the cash, you still come out ahead.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Look that’s fine. Using your home as the basis of your retirement savings has been the NZ way for decades. Retirees don’t usually get reverse mortgages in NZ though, they just tend to “downsize.”

                    • Lanthanide

                      Reverse equity mortgages have only been available recently, IIRC first available around 2004-2005, and then dried up during the GFC, but they are now available again.

              • DH

                “Firstly you haven’t thought that you might only need say $100K in a hurry.”

                No big deal, the homeowner has saved $228,000 in cash from avoided rent increases.

                I added that rather than deducted it off the renters savings because it would equate roughly to wage increases that the home owner can save and the renter has to pay in rent increases.

                I’ve applied the same scenario to both because it’s the only way you can make an honest comparison. In reality many people would probably downsize or move during a 25yr term but if you keep doing the comparison it would still work out similar.

    • ianmac 7.2

      And when I saw my sister’s final mortage repayments a few years ago it was funny. She was paying $3.50 per week back to the State Advances. Wow! Cheap rent eh? Decades earlier the mortgage repayments would have been huge against their income but steadily as wages increase so the difficulty of repayments diminish.

    • Colonial Viper 7.3

      The home buyer will have a $868,000 freehold house in 25yrs. They would have some increased costs from inflation on maintenance, rates, insurance, interest rate changes etc so allow $100k in ownership costs.

      Ownership costs are going to be closer to $200,000, I think.

      Just looking up the typical $260,000 ~median house here in Dunedin. (Yes it’s that low).

      City council rates of $1900, regional council rates of $130, p.a. If rates kept completely static that’s $50K just in rates over 25 years – and we know that those rates are going nowhere but up.

      • DH 7.3.1

        “Ownership costs are going to be closer to $200,000, I think.”

        They included that in the $7193 pa difference, I just added more to cover inflation and possible changes in interest rates.

      • Tracey 7.3.2

        Sorry, are you saying rates on a 260k house in dunedin are 1900pa

        • Colonial Viper 7.3.2.1

          yes. Approx. to say +/-5%.

          • Tracey 7.3.2.1.1

            That seems way higher than auckland

            • Colonial Viper 7.3.2.1.1.1

              Well we have a nice covered sports stadium to pay off. I also suspect that trying to service a city with a much lower population density than Auckland (the official city boundaries for Dunedin are huge) is expensive.

    • karol 7.4

      Well, it also depends on a lot of factors, for me, and the kind of life/society I want to live in. As a single person, I am quite happy with minimalistic rental accommodation – less than half the weekly cost you cite above.I am a lifetime renter by choice. I have reasonable freedom of movement, and no desire to perpetuate the self-centred profiteering outlook that permeates the home buying market ethos. It’s always been a turn-off for me.

      And your comment is just all about the benefits to the individual home buyers, while renters who don’t have a choice are exploited by the whole ethos.

      I have watched while my parents generation end up having to give up their homes and go into resthomes. Ultimately, home ownership is no guarantee for life accommodation. I have enough money in life savings and pension schemes to see me through my retirment. Others don’t, and their circumstnces will not be fixed by perpetuating the focus on the benefits to the individuals who can afford it, to buy their own homes.

      • DH 7.4.1

        I’m not making a punt for home ownership Karol, I’m merely putting up some numbers to show how seriously disadvantaged people can be financially if they put their cash in the bank (or Kiwisaver et al) instead of buying a house.

        I would think the message is that the situation needs rebalancing, possibly even reversing. If the Govt wants us to save then they need to do something to make it worthwhile. Instead they feed us bullshit.

      • geoff 7.4.2

        +1 karol

        The obsession with owning property is just a coping strategy people have adopted to protect themselves from the economic decline that is happening all around them.

        While plastic crap and electronics gets ever cheaper, all the essentials in life, food, shelter, electricity get more expensive year on year.

        I was going to say NZ should take a leaf out of Germany’s book, but it seems even they have succumbed to the Western disease:

        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/13/berlin-property-boom-germans-end-home-rental

        • Colonial Viper 7.4.2.1

          The obsession with owning property is just a coping strategy people have adopted to protect themselves from the economic decline that is happening all around them.

          It’s the natural and intelligent response to the increasing rewards of participating in a property price bubble and the decreasing rewards of hour by hour wages.

          • geoff 7.4.2.1.1

            Some mix of fear plus greed. The key ingredients for capitalism.

          • karol 7.4.2.1.2

            It’s the natural and intelligent response

            For those on middle and upper range incomes.

            • DH 7.4.2.1.2.1

              “For those on middle and upper range incomes.”

              Yup. I do take it for granted that people understand this is primarily about those on lower incomes who for whatever reason are not, and probably never will be, in a position to buy a house. I’m not personally affected by it, I have the luxury of choice.

              In reality few people would be able to save the $85k deposit in the first place, they wouldn’t save anything like $499k even if they did have the $7193 pa in disposable income.

              We’ve had housing inflation since the seventies, what’s changed is back then NZ had similar inflation on everything and regular wage rises to cover it. Since the RBNZ started meddling we’ve had high inflation only on housing and wages are pegged to consumer inflation which is much lower.

              IMO the root cause of the growing inequality in NZ is housing.

      • geoff 7.4.3

        http://www.thebubblebubble.com/germany-housing-bubble/

        This article is interesting, it suggest the German property boom is a reaction to the very low euro-zone interest rates which were implemented to stop the eurozone collapsing.

    • Draco T Bastard 7.5

      There’s been a lot of claims about Kiwis being poor savers and other claims that renting is better than owning a home.

      I’m pretty sure that that is a fiction spread by the rentiers so that they can boost their own income.

      Things is, I actually think renting is better – so long as it’s state rentals done at cost and that cost doesn’t include getting the price of the building back.

    • felix 7.6

      The renter will have nett savings of $499k and continue to pay rent.
      The home buyer will have nett savings of $1.09 million and have no more mortgage payments.

      Not really. The home buyer EITHER has a million bucks OR a mortgage free house. You can’t cash up the house AND have no mortgage/rent payments.

      • DH 7.6.1

        I think you’re missing the purpose. I presented a snapshot of the relative financial positions people would be in after a 25 yr term. Whether freehold house or cash in the bank, they’re both savings in this context. I used 25 yrs because that’s how long a mortgage is, it’s easier to do the calculations. Take it out to 35-40 yrs as a retirement projection for 25-30yr olds and the homeowner would probably be up by another $million.

        • Colonial Viper 7.6.1.1

          Worth bearing in mind that these are all smooth-run scenarios

          Redundancies, divorces, illness, housing crashes etc can drastically change the picture

          • DH 7.6.1.1.1

            Yeah they can, it’s a generalisation but I can’t think of any better way to do it. I do think it would apply to the majority though, can proportionately cut all the figures for cheaper houses & they’d still work out to the same ratios.

            There’s also the provinces to be covered, my numbers are really about the big cities. Homeowners in many provincal areas may be worse off than renters. All this newfound property wealth hasn’t been spread evenly around has it.

        • felix 7.6.1.2

          Yes DH they’re obviously both savings but in the case of the home owner you’ve counted the same savings twice.

          You counted a million-odd in savings AND a mortgage-free house. That’s just not true.

  7. yeshe 8

    Controls on GMO’s too tight, according to the ignorant, self-serving and dangerous Amy Adams in the Herald overnight .. but gone this morning from the web page, anyway as far as
    i can see.

    THIS HAS TO BE AN ELECTION ISSUE. Adams has prevented other councils from having their individual non-GMO status — for sure, this insane govt will change the laws if they get another term.

    Her submission to Auckland on Unitary Plan includes this:

    “Proposals to control genetically modified organisms were also unduly and unnecessarily stringent, she said.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11273582

    No thanks Amy, sod off.

    • Tautoko Viper 8.1

      +1 Yeshe
      Amy Adams, Tim Groser and Phil Goff all need to read the article entitled “Pesticide and GMO Companies Spend Big in Hawai’i”
      https://www.commondreams.org/view/2014/06/12-1

      “Kaua’i County — consisting primarily of the island of Kaua’i, known as Hawai’i’s “Garden Isle” and home to Waimea Canyon State Park — passed a law in November 2013 that requires disclosure of pesticide use and GMO crops sewn by growers and created buffer zones around schools, parks, medical facilities, and private residences. The law is set to go into effect in August 2014.

      Hawai’i County banned GMOs altogether in November 2013, and a Maui County initiative to ban GMOs recently obtained enough citizen signatures to be placed on the November 2014 ballot.

      Since experiencing these setbacks, the big agricultural firms have retaliated in a big way.

      Syngenta, DuPont Pioneer, Agrigenetics (doing business as Dow AgroSciences), and BASF have sued Kaua’i to block its law.”

      NZ needs to say NO to GMO, No to TPPA (which allows these Big GMO and Pesticide companies to sue under the investor-state dispute system and NO to Amy Adams’s efforts to remove the voices of people in the regions.
      Tim Groser-Hoping that agricultural tariffs are removed in 20 year’s time in return for selling out to these amoral Corporate Bullies is treason. (Hear that Phil Goff?)

      • yeshe 8.1.1

        +1 back again! It’s remained my greatest fear from the TPPA that Monsanto will destroy our food and environment … I can but say again, it has to be an election issue .. appreciate your thoughts, thanks. They all need to sod off !

  8. geoff 9

    I’m not even going to link to it but Chris Trotter’s last blog piece on Bowalley Road is dire.
    The guy has clearly got it in for the Labour party, attacking Cunliffe at every chance.

    I’ll add that this isn’t just his internet bletherings like the rest of us, this was published in 5 NZ newspapers.

    I probably wouldn’t mind his criticism if it was well founded but Chris’s arguments have degenerated into mysticism. In the last one he essentially says that he thinks that Cunliffe just doesn’t have the ‘gut instinct’ whereas key does.

    He then goes on to compare with previous leaders ( Gough Whitlam, Norm Kirk), all who according to the political oracle, Chris Trotter, had the ‘gut instinct’

    It all reads a bit like something Steven Colbert would do, the truthiness levels are sky high.

    And as one commenter said beneath the article, both Whitlam and Kirk lost elections before they won them. As did Helen Clark I believe.

    • swordfish 9.1

      “And as one commenter said beneath the article…”

      Yeah, that was me, I’m afraid. Always been markus on Bowalley Road and Brian Edwards Media and, of course, swordfish here and occasionally on one or two other blogs.

    • ianmac 9.2

      As Fran Sullivan says Key is heavily reliant on polling to decide directions safe enough to pursue. His gut instinct is thanks to Farrar. I doubt that Opposition parties can afford the luxury of polling. But would they if they could afford it?

      • geoff 9.2.1

        National does way more polling than any other party. They can afford it.

        But you’re right, and Fran O’Sullivan has hit on a major difference between Key and Cunliffe.
        One has polls and the other has principles.

      • Tracey 9.2.2

        Relying on polling, as you rightly say, is not the same as gut feeling or instinct.

    • amirite 9.3

      “And as one commenter said beneath the article, both Whitlam and Kirk lost elections before they won them. As did Helen Clark I believe.”

      geoff, the difference being that if David Cunliffe loses the election he’ll probably lose the leadership too.

      • geoff 9.3.1

        I don’t think he will.

        Remember that Cunliffe signifies the power of the membership & the unions over the self-serving members of the caucus.

        If the caucus manage to pry the leadership from Cunliffe, against the wishes of the membership and the unions, then that will be the end of the Labour party.

        • Lanthanide 9.3.1.1

          It’s ultimately Cunliffe’s decision. If he doesn’t want the job, for whatever reason, he’ll step aside and the membership and unions can’t do anything about that.

          • geoff 9.3.1.1.1

            It’s not his decision if he wants to stay and gets kicked out.

            • Lanthanide 9.3.1.1.1.1

              How would you know he got “kicked out”?

              • geoff

                Huh?
                Are you being obtuse?

                If Cunliffe is challenged for the leadership and then gets voted out then that’s what i mean by being kicked out.

                • Lanthanide

                  “If the caucus manage to pry the leadership from Cunliffe, against the wishes of the membership and the unions, then that will be the end of the Labour party.”

                  “If Cunliffe is challenged for the leadership and then gets voted out then that’s what i mean by being kicked out.”

                  This would require at least some of the unions and membership to vote against Cunliffe, since the caucus only gets 40% of the total share. It’s also likely that Cunliffe would get at least 8-10 votes out of the total caucus, so I would suggest any challenger that fairly won in a vote would have had to be supported by a large share of the membership and unions, if not the majority. Which is, you know, democratic.

                  • geoff

                    That’s correct. I’ve no argument with that.

                    But that is all irrelevant when addressing what you originally stated which is, It’s ultimately Cunliffe’s decision..
                    As you said yourself, if he’s democratically voted out then it isn’t his decision at all.

  9. karol 10

    It’s bad to hear that some people in West Auckland still have no power after this week’s storm. There should have been, and continue to be, more public information about the current and on-going state of play on this.

    Good on the Weekend Herald for giving an update.

    The worst cases are the people still without any electricity – as with the Glen Eden couple featured in the article.

    I and a neighbour have been without hot water since the storm. We have been told it’s on the to do list, but not the highest priority. Of course, people with no electricity at all should be attended to first, but we’ve had no info on what’s happening on that front.

    We are fortunate in having electricity for everything else but hot water.

    But, it’s been hard to get anything other than some very general comments about the current situation.

    It’s mainly the showers I miss – washing in a bowl of heated (in a kettle, on the stove) water is getting to be a pain, but do-able.

    • Draco T Bastard 10.1

      Privatisation and profit drive are just sooo much better than the government providing adequate services at cost.

      /sarc

      • karol 10.1.1

        Yeah, that to. What is appalling is that the lack of info about what is happening. At first I accepted the information given. Last night and this morning I had begun to fear nothing was being done, and our situation had been overlooked – or that maybe our situation was failure just at delivery of hot water to me and my neighbour due to a very local fault at point of delivery.

        The powercos don’t seem to respect their customers enough to provide adequate public info about what is happening.

    • Ad 10.2

      Pull down the Vector app onto your phone and you will get pretty fast updates.

      Also a smart electrician can fix your hot water cylinder so that the lines company cannot trip the water heater mechanism again.

      • karol 10.2.1

        Fixing the heater mechanism is up to my landlord.

        Why do you assume I have a phone with access to such aps?

        • Ad 10.2.1.1

          Then pull it onto your computer.

          The heater mechanism is supposed to be able to be shut off by the lines company so that they can respond to the whole grid in times of high stress. Over to you if you don’t want a way around that.

        • ianmac 10.2.1.2

          A while ago I lost my hot water heating. Everything seemed in order but it was the meter itself that had failed. Trustpower replaced the meter but in the meantime a friendly electrician by-passed the meter to give us H/W.
          That is no help to you but a phone call to your supplier should get action. Don’t you miss it when it is not there. Sympathy.

          • karol 10.2.1.2.1

            The thing is, the landlord lives on premises and all the electricity, heating etc goes through their supply. I am dependent on their communications with the suppliers, and on how they arrange the connections etc.

            So, ultimately, if the companies gave full information to the public then I would be certain of what is happening. There is no news on the powerco website.

      • bad12 10.2.2

        True Ad, such rationing hasn’t happened here in Wellington for so long i cannot remember when the last time the ability for the power Co to shut off the hot water heating component of electricity supply was used,

        i have tho lived in areas where this form of rationing has been more common place, my fix, wire in the 3 point end of a extension cord alongside of the existing wiring, make this safe by cutting from the extension cord the female end with no wiring protruding,

        Then, at times when the power supply to the hot water cylinder has been cut all that is required is an extension cord plugged into a normal household socket and plugged into the cylinder by removal of the dummy female plug end,

        Warning!!! do not try this at home, it could be described as dangerous for the electrically illiterate and is more than likely illegal as well…

  10. Draco T Bastard 11

    Testing a six-hour work day

    Greece, on paper, is the second-hardest working country measured by the OECD, its people putting in an average of 2033 hours of toil a year.
    Greece is also bankrupt.

    Evidence is mounting that long hours do not equal productivity, and may even indicate the opposite. It’s one of the reasons Sweden is about to try a six-hour working day in Gothenburg with a view to making it a national policy. Swedish workers already put in considerably fewer hours than New Zealanders, but are economically considerably better off – counter-intuitive to our constant self-exhortations to “work harder!”

    For the last 30 years, since the neo-liberal revolution brought in by the 4th Labour government, NZers have been working ever harder but we’ve pretty much failed in working smarter. We’ve been doing things the same way but doing more of it rather than looking for better ways to do it.

    • geoff 11.1

      Why pay for expensive capital to improve productivity when you can just change the employment laws and pay people less. Easy eh?

    • Tracey 11.2

      Thats cos more and more people are doing one and a half to two peoples jobs for thw same money

  11. why is gower interviewing an e.t.-impersonator..?

    ..and brace yrslves for farrar pontificating on child-poverty (falsely) thus:

    ..’you can’t solve problems like this by just throwing more money at them..

    ..it’s much more complicated/complex than that..’

    ..as the excuse to continue to just do nothing..

    ..this is the pile of stinking-randite/neo-lib bullshit farrar has been peddling since forever..

    ..he probably has it on an app..titled ‘rightwing-lies..a daily guide/how-to..’..

    • well..i was wrong..

      ..despite the interviews with boston and the childrens’ commissioner on child-poverty;..what to do..?..being the most interesting part of what came before..

      ..the numpties @ the nation instead deciding that banging on about the e.t.-impersonater for most of their on-air time..

      ..will key..?..won’t key..?..

      ..is/was much more important an issue than that child-poverty frivolity..

      (pfftt..!!..eh..?..best just ignore that ‘silly’ wills..our paychecks/tax-rates are at risk here..this is serious..!..(see later..)

      ..and there is ‘a moment’ in the interview owen does with the childrens’ commssioner..

      ..(where she spent half the time trying to play wedge-politics oldies vs. children in poverty..who would we prefer to hurt..?)

      ..the moment comes after the commissioner disabuses her of that fanciful-’wedge’-notion/solution..

      ..and she..her thesis thrashed/demolished.. (querolously) says:..’so who do we have to look to to help solve this..?’

      ..wills/commissioner (calmly) answers:..’people like you and me ..lisa..’

      ..owen actually squirmed in her seat/looked decidedly uncomfortable..shaken even.. at that revelation from wills..

      ..that was ‘the moment’..

      ..(that maybe dictated that panel-silence..?..on that frivilous/trivial issue of child-poverty..)

      ..this is the sad/irrelevant excuse for public/current-affairs commentary/taxpayer-funded broadcasting we are forced to endure..

      • phillip ure 12.1.1

        i hope the next govt keeps on wills as the childrens’ commissioner..

        ..(one of the few good things key/this govt did..appointing wills as childrens’ commissioner..

        ..and i don’t think he turned out as they hoped/expected..)

        ..he so much looks like he knows what to do..

        ..to fix up what is so wrong..

        ..and is just itching to get cracking..

        ..and it wd be a shame to lose those skills/that institutional-knowledge gained..

        ..and he would fit in very nicely with the aspirations of a progressive government..

        ..that childrens’ commissioner wills..

  12. Chooky 13

    Home Thoughts From Abroad:

    ‘Taking freedom for granted’

    By Michael Timmins / June 11, 2014

    “At the moment I am writing this in Quetta, Baluchistan, scene of a current insurgency with simmering sectarian violence thrown in as well. There are differing reports, but there was a bomb here this weekend killing over 20 people. Regular news in these here parts….Men’s egos and desire for power overcoming the ability of regular folks to live without fear. This is not at all helped by the “advances” of technology and the use of unmanned aerial vehicles to mete out a peculiar form of justice with a direct relevance in this part of the world…..

    In saying that, and I want to emphasise that I am not suggesting a parallel between the two countries, I got to thinking today about our little country. I had to acknowledge, as I acknowledge my own privilege in writing this, that there are people who live in New Zealand in fear. To them, the rock-star economy is illusive. They can’t even buy a ticket to see the rock-star economy. Actually, many don’t even get to join the queue.
    The egos of men, this relentless pursuit of short-term profit at any cost, the commodification of education, our covert surveillance, an elected elite providing consistent evidence of corruption, and the decision to ignore or even deny privilege, all narrows the scope of our achievement and ultimately denies our potential…..

  13. Penny Bright 14

    Ok folks – focusing on the IMPORTANT stuff? :)

    5 sitting weeks to go and corrupt Minister of Justice Judith Collins’ ‘Organised Crime and Anti-Corruption Legislation Bill’ (whose passage is required before NZ can ratify the UN Convention Against Corruption (UNCAC) is still nowhere to be seen on the Parliamentary Order Paper.

    http://www.parliament.nz/resource/en-nz/00HOHOrderPaper1/557820959ded99caaa42250414a4391d6d0fa908

    How does NZ deserve a seat on the UN Security Council when we (and I use the ‘we’ word very lightly’ haven’t even got our domestic anti-corruption legislative framework in place?

    Seriously?

    How competent and ‘fit for duty’ is Judith Collins as Minister of Justice – swanning around overseas, getting her ‘look at me me me’ photo taken with celebrities, when CRITICAL legislation, which is HER responsibility – the ‘Organised Crime and Anti-Corruption Legislation Bill’ – which she PROMISED would be introduced last year, is nowhere to be seen ….

    What a disgrace.

    And NZ Prime Minister John Key still supports this corrupt, incompetent Minister?

    What does that say about his ‘fitness for duty’ as Prime Minister and Leader of the National Party?

    Penny Bright

    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

  14. Penny Bright 15

    No disrespect – but Chris Trotter knew nothing about the Committee for Auckland (who really run the Auckland region) until after the 2013 Auckland election – when I potted them to 1.4 million people in my 150 word candidate statement.

    So – in terms of how informed Chris really is as a political commentator?

    Not particularly, when it comes to some KEY issues, in my considered opinion.

    Penny Bright

    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

  15. Good article worth a read entitled,

    ” The Dark Side of the “Green Economy” – Why some indigenous groups and environmentalists are saying no to the “green economy.”

    A quote from the body

    “The Green Economy is a perverse attempt by corporations, extractive industries, and governments to cash in on Creation by privatizing, commodifying, and selling off the Sacred and all forms of life and the sky, including the air we breathe, the water we drink, and all the genes, plants, traditional seeds, trees, animals, fish, biological and cultural diversity, ecosystems and traditional knowledge that make life on Earth possible and enjoyable.”

    http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/its-your-body/going-against-the-green

    I like green but too often these ideas get co-opted by capitalism and the elite for their own gain.

    • Colonial Viper 16.1

      looking forward to you speaking out against dairy intensification and the pillaging of protein from the sea – no matter who is benefitting from it.

      • geoff 16.1.1

        Are you vegetarian, CV?

        • Colonial Viper 16.1.1.1

          Nope not at all

          • geoff 16.1.1.1.1

            What are your thoughts on the contribution that meat-eating has to climate change?

            • Colonial Viper 16.1.1.1.1.1

              China used 3.5B tonnes of coal last year. That’s 800kg for every man woman and child in NZ. Ask yourself how much of that was used to produce the meat patties in the Double Whopper I had today. If you answer “none” then you would be correct.

              • Lanthanide

                “Food miles” are really over-represented when it comes to actual carbon emissions, because food is transported in bulk.

                By far the highest emission point in getting food from the farm to your table is the final ~1-10km trip from your house to the supermarket and back again in the car.

                There was a study down showing that beef and lamb shipped to the UK and consumed there had lower carbon emissions than UK-sourced lamb and beef, simply because in NZ we have open paddocks to keep the livestock rather than heated/ventilated/serviced/etc sheds.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Inputs like the manufacture and application of fertiliser and pesticides are the biggies IMO…and that includes for feedstock…

              • geoff

                CV, that’s the same argument the right uses to say we shouldn’t bother taxing carbon.

                http://www.salon.com/2014/03/31/we_cant_stop_global_warming_unless_we_start_eating_a_lot_less_meat/

                • Colonial Viper

                  Well, I would agree with them that we shouldn’t bother taxing carbon. It’s a waste of time.

                  What we should be doing within the next 3 years:

                  Get 25% of cars and trucks off the road, put in place public transport powered by renewables, reinstitute trains all over the country mostly electric ones, get coastal shipping up and running properly, and get rid of half the cows in the country.

                  That’s what needs to happen. IF we are serious about setting a climate change example and if we are serious about readying for energy depletion. How much of that will a carbon tax achieve – none of it.

                  IMO what is a carbon tax for except to delay and make it appear like Govt is being proactive about climate change. The Tories will be back in power in 3 or 6 or 9 years and gut the carbon tax so its symbolic at best.

                  We don’t have 20 years to start making in roads to this problem. That was back when Limits to Growth was published, in the early 70′s. Now, we have 20 years to get sorted full stop and waiting 10 years for a carbon tax to kick in and have effects is too too late.

                  • geoff

                    nevertheless, the huge required drop in emissions means people will have to eat far less meat, at least as it is presently produced.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      I have no problem with that. 3.5B people in the world would be lucky to have any meat even once a week. But its this kind of personal lifestyle fixation which really gets me when the problems we are facing are on a societal/civilisation scale.

                      We have to get a quarter million or half a million fossil fuel vehicles off NZ roads in the next few years and replace that capacity with renewable energy powered alternatives and public transport. Worrying about an end to Big Macs is the least of our concerns.

                    • geoff

                      I don’t see how it is personal lifestyle fixation.

                      It’s just recognising that less meat has to be eaten.

                      I think you could be wrong to dismiss agriculture’s contribution to climate change.

                      This page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_and_agriculture

                      has a graph at the top which shows contribution to greenhouse gas emissions by sector.
                      The agricultural by products contribution (12.5%) is almost as big as the transportation fuels (14%) contribution.
                      That suggests you could save as much by laying off the big macs as you could by your preferred option of cutting back on fossil-fuel-based transport.

                      That article also states:

                      Land use change such as deforestation and desertification, together with use of fossil fuels, are the major anthropogenic sources of carbon dioxide;

                      and the deforestation wiki page states:

                      According to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) secretariat, the overwhelming direct cause of deforestation is agriculture. Subsistence farming is responsible for 48% of deforestation; commercial agriculture is responsible for 32% of deforestation; logging is responsible for 14% of deforestation and fuel wood removals make up 5% of deforestation.

                      This suggests to me that agriculture is a huge contributor to climate change.

      • marty mars 16.1.2

        I am against dairy intensification especially very large herd sizes, the draining of wetlands to create areas to grow cows where cows shouldn’t be, pollution of our waterways (I’d make the farmers get their water downstream of their farms for their personal use and the commodification of animals. I don’t eat animals. I am opposed to commercial fishing especially where slave labour is used on ships and the overfishing of species. I don’t eat fish.

        I oppose those activities no matter who is doing it.

    • Ad 16.2

      Sounds like you’ve come straight out of too much postwar Heidegger; The Question Concerning Technology.

      I am quietly amazed by the many who are still quoting absurdist theory this close to an election.

      The time for policy rumination and moist Left melancholy is gone. All we have time for is mobilisation and fundraising. After the next month, even fundraising will be too late.

      • marty mars 16.2.1

        “Sounds like you’ve come straight out of too much postwar Heidegger; The Question Concerning Technology.”

        Not really but it was an interesting read – thanks.

  16. Penny Bright 17

    To keep Chris Trotter directly in the loop – I’ve just posted this on his blog.

    (It’s yet to be published – all posts are subject to moderation):

    “No disrespect – but Chris – you knew nothing about the Committee for Auckland (who really run the Auckland region) until after the 2013 Auckland election – when I potted them to 1.4 million people in my 150 word candidate statement.

    So – in terms of how informed you really is as a political commentator?

    Not particularly, when it comes to some KEY issues, in my considered opinion.

    John Key is an ex-Wall St banker, who helped to set up the dodgy derivatives market when he worked at Merrill Lynch, the collapse of which caused the Global Financial Crisis.

    That’s one of the main reasons why I shall be standing against John Key in Helensvile as an Independent Anti-Corruption / anti-privatisation Public Watchdog’ – in order to confront him directly on such issues.

    You may recall that I polled 4th in the Auckland 2013 Mayoral campaign, polling nearly 12,000 votes.

    Did YOU predict that Chris?

    How about the committal for trial and subsequent guilty verdict of John Banks for electoral fraud?

    Did YOU predict that Chris?

    Kind regards,
    Penny Bright

    http://www.dodgyjohnhasgone.com

    • Clemgeopin 17.1

      Penny Bright, I do not know much about you apart from reading your posts here which show that you are a determined person pursuing important public interest issues. That is really commendable when we see the lack of active interest and apathy shown by many people towards politics. Good on you.

      Have you tried putting yourself as a candidate for any of the progressive parties to fight the election? If not, why not?

  17. fisiani 18

    21% is the crucial number for Labour List MP’s. With Labour likely to gain Kelston and Christchurch Central electorates the number of List MP’s shrinks to 0 when the Labour vote collapses in September. Goff Shearer Mallard, King would all be safe but the stalwarts like David Parker would be gone.

    • North 18.1

      As alerted by someone recently…….FizzyAnus hard out sweet talking himself while one hand typing…….again.

    • McFlock 18.2

      47% is the crucial number for National. Any less than that and they are in opposition, or have a neolib pyrrhic coalition with “no asset sales” NZ1.

      • fisiani 18.2.1

        Correct for once McFlock. That’s why National currently polling 52.5% is aiming to go even higher and given the unstable fragmented backwards looking extremist opposition seems highly likely to do so.
        BTW 47% with Winston First polling 4.5% is equivalent to National polling 49.2% which would easily be enough.

        • bad12 18.2.1.1

          You have to wonder whether Fis doesn’t see His huge ability as the ”sage” as wasted here at the Standard,

          Such a grand display of matakite coupled with an immense flight of fantasy evident in every comment would make Fis a sitter as the author of fantasy in some soft porn publication…

          • fisiani 18.2.1.1.1

            As a sage I can give you some free advice. Ian Lees-Galloway in Palmerston North needs a high list ranking to be an MP after the election. National have attracted a star candidate in Jono Naylor who is the current and three time mayor of Palmerston North. He is admired by both Left and Right and has higher name recognition than anyone else in the Manawatu.
            That is one of two seats that National will gain.

            • bad12 18.2.1.1.1.1

              As a sage Fis you are stuck in the FPP past, who cares who the representative for Palmerston North is except those who live in the past of the First Past the Post electoral system,

              (geez don’t say that you live there, now that would explain a thing or two, a mind such as found in ”the Tron” but twice as small)…

              • fisiani

                Who cares? Are you thick? ILG was ranked number 37. If he does not win PN then he is a goneburger. If he somehow wins then someone higher ranked on the list loses out eg Jacinda.

                • McFlock

                  so IF labour do as badly this time as national did in 2002, you might have a point.

                  Keep that hubris, it can only help the country get the government it needs, rather than this current regime of the corrupt and the incompetent.

                  • fisiani

                    I do not expect Labour to score as high as National in 2002. The phone is off the hook.

                    • bad12

                      Fis, the phone is definitely off the hook, if your wanting to find it just engage in a little contortion, its jammed in that place the sun don’t ever shine…

                    • McFlock

                      Fisi says Labour <21% in September.
                      you heard it here first.

        • McFlock 18.2.1.2

          the difference between what national polls and what it gets in the election was palpable last time.
          And they’re polling lower now.

          And Winston just needs to get to 5% to be in on the tory-fucking party.
          Tell us, oh sage, did you make any predictions about how banksies court case would go? :)

          • fisiani 18.2.1.2.1

            Got Banks verdict spot on and took money off suckers who longed for a by-election on ipredict. Going to make a packet on Palm North and one other electorate.

            • bad12 18.2.1.2.1.1

              Bullshit…

            • McFlock 18.2.1.2.1.2

              got a link for you predicting banks verdict here?

              • fisiani

                Never predicted it on The Standard and never claimed to have done so.

                • McFlock

                  Never said you had.
                  Simply asked whether you were supporting an unsubstantiated prediction with an equally unsubstantiated claim of brilliance. It appears you were.

                  but now you’ve made a verifiable prediction as to what Labour will get in september.

                  • fisiani

                    Yes I predict sub 22%

                    • BM

                      25% would be my prediction, but sub 22% if the Cunllife implodes.

                    • Clemgeopin

                      For National I predict SUB 44%
                      For Labour I predict 36% Plus
                      For Internet-MANA 6 % Plus.
                      For the GREENS….? 10 % plus

                      For CONS, SUB 3 %
                      For Maori, 1%

                      For ACT 0%
                      For UFUT 0%

            • Lanthanide 18.2.1.2.1.3

              The by-election was predicated on Banks resigning over the whole situation 18 months ago. He never did, despite obviously being guilty. The police utter failure to lodge the case they clearly should have ended up delaying everything, and here we are today.

              So if you placed those bids after the police chose not to prosecute, then it was hardly a long-shot prediction.

              • fisiani

                Placed the prediction after he was found guilty! That’s how thick some rabid Lefties are.

                • McFlock

                  Wow, so a market failed to adjust to new information in a timely manner?
                  And you think taking advantage of that counts as a “prediction”?

                  there’s a double fucking surprise. /sarc

    • srylands 18.3

      I would be surprised. 25% support for Labour is likely rusted on for now. These are people who will vote Labour because they don’t think, are stupid, or because their parents did or all of the above.

      • fisiani 18.3.1

        25% bedrock I agree but if 20% of them stay at home that takes it down to just 20%.

        • dimebag russell 18.3.1.1

          that makes it about five eights of sweet f*ck all. goodbye national.

  18. bad12 19

    More on the Buses here in Wellington, it appears that the Chairperson of the Wellington Regional Council understands the story of Cinderella at the ball in its entirety,

    Fran Wilde heading the Regional Council, which looks remarkably like an old peoples home for old politicians who have long past their use by date on the national stage but still crave, well crave something best not addressed here, now says that the Wellington City Council Mayor is opposing the scrapping of Wellington’s trolley buses based upon not having ALL the information,

    Such a statement from Wilde raises the specter of ”Granny State” and a following query of just who does have all the relevant information,

    In the world according to Fran, a new text brought about by the all seeing eye, She does and the wiring for the Wellington trolley buses will have to go because in 2017 this network covering a huge swathe of Wellington City ”Will become too dangerous to use”,

    And i have it on good authority Cinderella’s Prince will turn into a fucking Frog, worlds on this date will also collide giving George Powell’s bride the most terrible thrills,

    My view would be that such thinking as exhibited by the Wellington Regional Council will eventually make the planet too dangerous to use as well and they best be got rid of at the earliest oportunity, the next Council elections should do nicely…

    • srylands 19.1

      Christ whatever that means. Are you saying the technical report is wrong and they are cost effective after all? Really? Or you could be saying something else entirely because as usual, you write in discursive riddles.

      • bad12 19.1.1

        Yes SSLands, you have to have at least 3 working neurons crashing around inside the cranial cavity causing electrical discharge to be able to understand some of the stuff i publish here,

        You obviously fail at the first hurdle, and, being drunk doesn’t help matters either…

    • dimebag russell 19.2

      too dangerous my bum. if that is the case then renew it. I dont trust fran wilde one iota. she has probably already got a finders fee from the the other alternative supplier.

  19. bad12 20

    Lolz, is it the word ”buses” that the computer so dislikes that it captures such comments into moderation…

    Edit: obviously not…

  20. dimebag russell 21

    the national party must have stumped up some cash to pay fizzyanis overtime on a Saturday and he spent most of it on mind bending drugs.

  21. JanM 22

    I am absolutely horrified – having just acquired my son’s chooks I went off to RD1 to buy them some food seeing I can’t totally free-range them (they are in a large cage that can be moved around with access to greenery and soil). I had heard from a local source that at least one product contained palm kernel so when I went in I asked about that and was told they all did except one!!!
    Needless to say, that’s the one I have ( it’s from North Country Grains in Kaitaia, by the way – a GM-free company), but I would have been there for hours reading the small print had I not asked, and how many people taking innocent pleasure in keeping their own chooks have any idea that they are doing so at the cost of the orangutans – not many, I bet!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • veutoviper 22.1

      Thanks for that information, JanM. I will possibly be acquiring a neighbour’s chooks when they move back to Auckland in a few months and I would not have known this. Will check out North Country Grains for availability in Wellington.

    • BM 22.2

      David Cunnlife has chooks.

      His chook feed better be free of palm kernel otherwise I have no idea how he’ll be able to form a coalition with the greens!!!!!.

  22. dimebag russell 23

    they all trying to make monkeys out of everyone. they like the thing in the ‘Fifth Element’ that wants to eat the earth. Only these humans have no idea what they are doing. Its a period of mass delusion and madness that we will be lucky to escape from.

  23. a great movie on tv4 @ 6.30..

    ..chicken run..

    ..it’s made by the wallace and grommit crew…

  24. Tracey 25

    according to the herald

    ” The current theory circulating around Parliament – albeit one apparently denied by McCully himself – is that the foreign minister will announce he is withdrawing from the race for East Coast Bays, and do so so close to the election that National will not have time to pick another candidate”

    • Lanthanide 25.1

      Which is funny, because that would be so utterly transparent to the voting public, especially since the rumour is public now, so far in advance.

      • Colonial Viper 25.1.1

        Yeah it risks a loss of party vote support nationwide and Opposition parties would have a field day. It would likely set up a Labour win in the electorate.

        • Lanthanide 25.1.1.1

          I wouldn’t go as far as to suggest Labour would win the electorate. Remember that National voters are being told “we need support parties or we won’t be in government”. Suggesting National voters in the electorate would knowingly vote in a Labour candidate with the high chance of them blocking a National government, doesn’t make a lot of sense.

    • srylands 25.2

      Yeah well if you believe that you will have some of the ipredict action won’t you? No? I thought not. Because it won’t happen.

      • dimebag russell 25.2.1

        i-predict that Labour will open a big can of whipass on National and sh*t in carrying a pig!

      • Daveosaurus 25.2.2

        Because nothing else says ‘verifiability’ the same way as does an internet gambling site…

  25. Draco T Bastard 26

    Death From Above: How American Drone Strikes Are Devastating Yemen

    Symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, trauma and anxiety are becoming rampant in the different corners of the country where drones are active. “Drones hover over an area for hours, sometimes days and weeks,” said Rooj Alwazir

    And this is the sound of the drones

    The US, such a shining example of humanity – NOT.

    • Colonial Viper 26.1

      The US have fucked up the Syria and Iraq situation so much that ISIS/ISIL are only tens of kilometres away from marching on Baghdad.

      There was a report that 800 ISIS militants routed 30,000 Iraqi army personnel out of Mosul.

      • phillip ure 26.1.1

        this is going to end up the same clusterfuck as the fall of saigon…

        ..helicopters pulling americans off the roof of the embassy..

        ..the american empire..routed yet again..

        • Clemgeopin 26.1.1.1

          I heard on the radio this afternoon that America is making preparations to evacuate their embassy personnel from Baghdad. Not looking good for Baghdad and Iraq.

          • Colonial Viper 26.1.1.1.1

            And this is funny but not funny haha…the Iranians are sending in elite units to help the Shia govt in Baghdad out against the Sunni extremist forces – just as the US is considering launching an air war against those same Sunni forces – i.e. Iran and the USA will be fighting on the same side to try and salvage the Shia govt

            BTW the only reason ISIS/ISIL have got so far is that the Shia govt has been playing a corrupt game of divide and rule and the Sunnis around Saddam’s home town have fucking had enough of it and so are helping the militants on the ground.

            • phillip ure 26.1.1.1.1.1

              it gets even more complicated..

              ..isis have been/are being funded by americas’ ‘good-friend’..saudi arabia..

              ..it’s all getting kinda surreal..

              • Colonial Viper

                Yes the very armaments that the US Qatar and Saudis let flow into Syria to try and get rid of Assad are now being used in Iraq against the Baghdad govt.

                (Bear in mind that the [mostly Sunni] Saudis are totally fine with this as Iraq has become way too aligned with their regional [Shia] enemy Iran over the last few years).

  26. karol 27

    I just finished watching Al Jazzera documentary that I recorded this morning: “Goldman Sachs: The Bank that Rules the World”. On again at about midnight tonight on Freeview.

    Promo for it. The full doco doesn’t seem to be online yet.

    Sobering. How Goldman Sachs has no ethics, and leads the banking world in supporting an oligarchy.

    • Mike the Savage One 27.1

      Are you talking about the Federal Reserve and US Dollar currency program they recently showed, or is this another one?

      I saw the one on the FS and the GFC and bailout recently, and it just repeated what we knew already, apart from little bits of new info.

      Why is it, that this is repeated again and again, and that informed people at least, know all this now, and why is it, that most in public were scared to shit a few years ago, and now, all is back to “normal”? NOTHING is back to normal, the debt is larger than ever, is less likely to ever being paid off, and we have too many vested interest parties now report to us daily economic stabilisation, even “success” with growth figures and so???

      So the stock exchange is a “surface event”, really, as that is NOT connected anymore, nor was it years ago, before and during the GFC, to the REAL economy. The REAL economy is on slippery slopes, China is easing, likely to face the limitations after years of growth, Japan is not moving, Europe is snail growing, and the US is in territory not seen before, with sluggish “growth” and with a totally destabilised Middle East close to contraction again.

      WTF are people and media on about, with a “rock star (shite) economy” built on molten ice?

      WTF is this dumb populace here on about, to trust the crap we get reported, and WTF is a Labour opposition about, to not call it what it is, a kettle full of rotten, stinking manure, nothing else?

      Maybe they all bought into this corrupt, about to collapse system, and now where we have Islamic Radicals take over the Middle East, make no doubt about it, that is how Muhammad the Prophet started, your oil wells will soon be outside reach, and we will all have to pay extra premiums to fill the tank.

      Hah, get the horses and donkeys on the road, bet a bicycle, the quarter acre and two to three car household in Kiwiland lifestyle is GONNER, FOR GOOD!

  27. Once was Tim 28

    Anybody else catch Paxman’s Newsnight – the Hilary Clinton interview?
    Christ!
    Paraphrasing ….. the US is not about imperialism, rather “promoting values”.

    Strewth!

  28. Mike the Savage One 29

    Sorry, I have not been here a while.

    What is going on, here, where there is usually a hive of activity?

    Where is the “light bearer” of “the left”, our trusted opposition leader David, David Cunliffe? Where are the ground breaking policies to decide this election, where are the lined up champions of the Labour opposition to serve as the gladiators to take Key and his line-up out, if I may ask?

    There is such a damned silence around, a lack of news, a dearth of information, have they already given up the fight?

    Or is this the quiet before the storm, where Parliament will start again on Tuesday? I am desperate to learn and hear, what the damned hell is going on.

    I have never seen TS so silent and void of activity over a weekend for a long time, and I wonder, have all the staunch vocal defenders of the left and liberal cause resigned, started their own business, or focus on their paid jobs, as they may realise, Teflon Key is not to be beaten?

    Gosh, I thought that Standardistas were fighters, were is the fighting spirit, does it need to be reignited, and how?

    • geoff 29.1

      Said the 204th comment on Open Mike.

      • Colonial Viper 29.1.1

        And the All Blacks were playing tonight, being fair :twisted:

        • Mike the Savage One 29.1.1.1

          They play every two or so weeks, that is no excuse, dear comrade! Fighters fight on a number of fronts, while in the stadium, watch the outside and prepare the missiles for targeted firing. It is election year after all, I trust you wore your red scarf.

  29. Philj 30

    xox
    Finally TVNZ have provided quality broadcasting in their coverage of the Word Cup,so far…

  30. Anne 31

    Internet Party petition to get rid of coat-tailing and reduce the threshold:

    https://internet.org.nz/petition

    Sign now. Only running for a week.

    Every public protest, whatever form it takes, will help.

    • Colonial Viper 31.1

      Uh, don’t you think the IP running a no-coat tailing policy but not specifying the level they want the threshold dropped to, is seriously counter-productive to their own best interests?

      • Draco T Bastard 31.1.1

        Actually, they say that they want a discussion and point out that the commission recommended dropping from 5 to 4 and then to 3 and that Rob Salmond says 2% wouldn’t cause problems.

    • Mike the Savage One 31.2

      Seems like a bloody smart tactic, to do this, and gather names, phone and email details, to then use to promote Internet Party. Surely this is not quite straight dealing, but then again, what have we to lose?

      • Anne 31.2.1

        Sorry to disappoint MtSO, but there is an ‘OUT’ feature if you don’t want the information provided to be used in any way to promote the I.P., and to decline any updates or news by way of email. I used it.

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    A recent hui of representatives from some of TEU’s smallest branches said the union’s priorities on fair pay and decent working conditions were aspirational rather than a reality for some of their workers. The hui, which included TEU members from...
    Tertiary Education Union | 27-08
  • TEU leadership up for vote
    Campaigning for TEU’s new president is well under way, with both candidates, Lesley Francey and Sandra Grey, answering questions from the public on their campaign websites....
    Tertiary Education Union | 27-08
  • Dirty polls, what Winston wants & debates
    If the 3News-Reid Research poll has captured a snap shot of the voters' mood, then it shows that the campaign at the moment is all about trust. It is of course only one poll, but it shows a flight from...
    Pundit | 27-08
  • A positive story of political co-operation!
    .   . Wellington, NZ, 23 August - The following is a true story and shows how the natural inclination of the rank-and-file of our main left-wing parties is to work together… I’ve been in contact with both the Green...
    Frankly Speaking | 27-08
  • A positive story of political co-operation!
    .   . Wellington, NZ, 23 August - The following is a true story and shows how the natural inclination of the rank-and-file of our main left-wing parties is to work together… I’ve been in contact with both the Green...
    Frankly Speaking | 27-08
  • “Dirty Politics” – the fall-out continues…
    . . As the shock-wave from Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics” continues to engulf everything in it’s path, it’s worthwhile looking at the damage caused by the ever-expanding fallout… Fallout Dispersal Zone: 1oom Farrar wrote on 19 August  (and later...
    Frankly Speaking | 27-08
  • “Dirty Politics” – the fall-out continues…
    . . As the shock-wave from Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics” continues to engulf everything in it’s path, it’s worthwhile looking at the damage caused by the ever-expanding fallout… Fallout Dispersal Zone: 1oom Farrar wrote on 19 August  (and later...
    Frankly Speaking | 27-08
  • Why There is so Much Hate for John Key
    Kiwis, real Kiwis that is – not ‘Kiwis’ who have been living here for a couple of years, are mostly decent hard working and honest people.  They earn their living by getting out there and making a difference by what...
    An average kiwi | 27-08
  • The first head-to-head leaders’ debate – tonight!
    The first head-to-head debate between David Cunliffe and John Key (tonight, 7pm, TV One) could be a real turning point of the election. (Yes, I’m very biased.) But the fact is – ignoring questions about Mike Hosking’s moderation, and the...
    Boots Theory | 27-08
  • Why hasn’t Collins resigned?
    It seems highly unusual for a Minister of the Crown who has repeatedly transgressed and abused her position to still be a Minister. Not only has Judith Collins been found to have leaked the private information of a public servant...
    The Jackal | 27-08
  • 2014 SkS Weekly News Roundup #35A
    Act now on climate change or face growing health risks - UN Climate change may disrupt global food system within a decade Climate sceptics see a conspiracy in Australia's record breaking heat Cutting emissions pays for itself, research shows Greenhouse...
    Skeptical Science | 27-08
  • Legal Beagle: Crown appeals in criminal cases
    While the Crown has a lot of advantages in the criminal justice system - the resources and powers of the police foremost - many aspects of the system, are tilted in favour of a defendant - for example, the requirement...
    Public Address | 27-08
  • Election Transport Debate
    Last night was the Transport Election Debate and so this is a recap of what happened. Unfortunately it wasn’t filmed so we can’t put up a video for you all to watch. If I miss anything important please add it in...
    Transport Blog | 27-08
  • National: Not our Future Marches across New Zealand
    Press Release – Joe Carolan Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government’s track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin to oppose...
    Its our future | 27-08
  • IPCC attribution statements redux: A response to Judith Curry
    I have written a number of times about the procedure used to attribute recent climate change (here in 2010, in 2012 (about the AR4 statement), and again in 2013 after AR5 was released). For people who want a summary of...
    Real Climate | 27-08
  • Gordon Campbell on Winston Peters’ latest bout of immigrant bashing, and ...
    So in the latest 3News-Reid Research poll, New Zealand First and the Conservatives have been the big winners. It is only one poll, but rather than cannibalising each other’s vote, Colin Craig and Winston Peters do seem to be managing...
    Gordon Campbell | 27-08
  • Democracy – Leonard Cohen
      Because I've just come back from Nicky Hager's extraordinary public meeting in the Mt Eden War Memorial Hall, here's Lenny's magnificent paean to the democratic ideal. If it's coming to the USA - why not here too? Sail on, sail on,...
    Bowalley Road | 27-08
  • The Pilgrim Of Light: Nicky Hager And New Zealand Politics
    Admonishing Angel: Nicky Hager descends periodically to trouble our consciences and wreak merry havoc with the orderly conduct of our political affairs. But, more than any other journalist in New Zealand, he has taught us to read the actions of...
    Bowalley Road | 27-08
  • Positive!
    The public are being turned off by dirty politics. Our opponents are scum, but let's focus on the issues....
    Imperator Fish | 27-08
  • Lack of information on Port of Tauranga death extremely concerning
    The Maritime Union is extremely concerned about the lack of public information about a Tauranga port worker who died last week....
    MUNZ | 27-08
  • Climate Change: the Terminological Timeline
    It is often said that a picture speaks a thousand words. The run of pictures below, it is hoped, will do a little more. They exist as a counterpoint to that laziest of claims - that, a few years ago,...
    Skeptical Science | 27-08
  • No healthy economy without a healthy environment
    Labour recognises that we cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment, says Environment spokesperson Moana Mackey announcing Labour’s environment policy. “New Zealand’s economy has been built on the back of the enormous environmental wealth we collectively enjoy as...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Better protection, fairer deal for Kiwi consumers
    Tackling excessive prices, ensuring consumers have enough information to make ethical choices and giving the Commerce Commission more teeth are highlights of Labour’s Consumer Rights policy. “The rising cost of living is a concern for thousands of Kiwi families. A...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki Annette Sykes, Waia...
    Media are advised that this coming weekend, the MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will be on the Internet MANA Road Trip within the electorate of Waiariki. Speakers confirmed are Annette Sykes, Hone Harawira, John Minto, Laila Harre and Kim...
    Mana | 27-08
  • Internet MANA – Waiariki Road Trip: 29, 30, 31 Aug 2014
    The Internet MANA Road Trip hits Waiariki this weekend. It would be great if all MANA members in Waiariki could especially attend the public meetings and show their support for our Waiariki candidate Annette Sykes. Confirmed speakers Hone Harawira (except Taupo), Annette...
    Mana | 27-08
  • First home buyers $200 a week better off with Labour
    A couple earning around $75,000 a year would be $200 a week better off buying a two bedroom terraced Labour KiwiBuild home instead of an equivalent new build under National’s housing policy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe.  “National’s policy to...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Another Day – Another big power profit
    The latest profit announcement from Genesis Energy shows that the power company was sold for a song to the detriment of the country’s power consumers, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “A net profit of $ 49.2 million follows hard...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour embraces the rainbow
    Labour will work hard to ensure all New Zealanders enjoy the freedom to grow up and live their lives in dignity and security. Labour’s Rainbow policy, released tonight in Wellington, focuses on International Relations, Human Rights and Education....
    Labour | 26-08
  • National gets fast and loose with the facts
    In their desperation to make it look as though they are doing something about the housing crisis, National is playing fast and loose with the facts, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour will drop power prices for Kiwi families
    New Zealanders will get cheaper power prices under NZ Power, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The electricity market is clearly broken. With falling demand for electricity, prices should be going down. Instead prices are going up and companies are extracting...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour: Promoting sustainable tourism
    Ensuring New Zealand’s clean, green status continues to be an international tourism benchmark and reviewing MBIE’s oversight of the tourism sector will be on the radar under a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Tourism policy today, spokesperson Darien Fenton said tourism...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Skills shortage a result of National’s complacency
    The fact that there is still a severe shortage of skilled tradespeople, despite a growth in the number of apprentices, is a result of National’s failure to plan and develop the workforce, Grant Robertson, Labour Employment, Skills and TrainingSpokesperson says."The...
    Labour | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker?? – Mint...
    MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is calling for a radical overhaul of New Zealand’s taxation system with calculations showing that a minimum wage worker pays a ten times higher tax rate than the Prime Minister. o Minimum wage...
    Mana | 25-08
  • Labour’s culture of science and innovation
    Labour will create a culture of science and innovation in New Zealand that will be the envy of the world, says Labour’s Innovation, Research and Development spokesperson Megan Woods. “Labour believes that good science lies at the heart of a...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Improving life for our new New Zealanders
    New Zealand’s international standing as a community that encourages and fosters all cultures will be bolstered under a Labour Government with an upgrade of the present Office of Ethnic Affairs to a Ministry. Releasing Labour’s Ethnic Affairs policy, spokesperson Phil...
    Labour | 25-08
  • South Auckland housing crisis
    National’s HomeStart package is nothing more than a political stunt designed to beguile South Auckland voters, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Few working Pasifika and Maori workers in South Auckland will be able to buy their own...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Home buyer subsidy discredited in Oz
    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • Labour will facilitate regional Māori economic development agencies
    The next Labour Government will facilitate the creation of regional Māori economic development groups lead by iwi and hapū to work in partnership with business and public agencies as part of its Māori Development policy. “Labour is committed to working towards...
    Labour | 16-08
  • PRIME MINISTER’S DENIAL AT ODDS WITH NATIONAL PARTY STATEMENT
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has today released an email from the General Manager of the National Party that directly contradicts recent statements from the Prime Minister in relation to the 2011 breaches of Labour Party website databases. In his stand-up...
    Labour | 16-08
  • Cunliffe beats Key in First Leaders debate
    I watched the First Leaders debate at the Green Party #GreenRoomNZ, they were very kind to include me and the atmosphere was great. The debate was a resounding victory to Cunliffe. He won Round 1, Round 2, Round 3 and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • LIVE STREAM: The Green Room Leader’s Debate from 6:30pm
    The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding to the debate live, along with comment from thought leaders and commentators. ‘The Green Room’ 6pm – 8.30pm...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • How many taxpayer funded staff does John Key need to prepare for a Leaders ...
    John Key is currently at the Auckland Stamford Plaza with 40 staff, 4 undercover police cars and an entire floor booked out in preparation for tonights Leader’s debate. Isn’t 40 staff including coms, flown up to Auckland for a debate...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • A brief word on National Party Rodney MP, Mark Mitchell
    MP considers legal action against Nicky HagerThe National MP says he is considering taking a defamation case after the September 20 election.“Someone needs to be held accountable,” he said. Oh really champ? Brothers and sisters, there is a long way...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Greens advertise on Whaleoil – but not on The Daily Blog?
    PaknSave have shown ethical compass and blocked adverts on Whaleoil, yet the Greens are advertising on Whaleoil, and not The Daily Blog? I would imagine there are far more potential Green voters on The Daily Blog then ever are on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • It’s about the stupid economy stupid
    In focus group meetings, the sleepy hobbits of NZ by a staggering amount all believe that National are better economic stewards of the country than Labour, that’s why, instead of answering questions about blackmailing MPs, trawling brothels for dirt on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour Policy vs National Policy
    John Key’s favourite defence spin at the moment is people want to talk about policy and not hear answers on the ethics of trawling brothels, why Slater was given SIS information, blackmailing MPs into standing down, rigging candidate elections and hacking...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • The Green Room live streamed on TDB 6.30pm tonight for First Leaders debate
    The ‘Green Room’ will stream 6.pm tonight on The Daily Blog during the TV One leaders’ debate.Use #GreenRoomNZ to join in. The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Manukau East – the next Coalition in action
    A couple of weeks ago I had the pleasure of opening Voice Up – a youth forum run by young people in Otara. I had been asked as Chair of the Local Board to set the scene, encouraging young people...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – The Big Bang Theory
    It’s a shame that it took a brain injury for me to start seeing things with such startling clarity. The realisation that lawyering, fishing, parenting, selling cars and racing yachts had common themes was stunning. Not perhaps as stunning as...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how much Key aro...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls
    MIL OSI – Source: Selwyn Manning – Analysis Headline: 5AA Australia – New Zealand’s Dirty Politics Aftermath and Polls 5AA Australia: On this week’s Across the Ditch bulletin on 5AA Australia, host Peter Godfery and Selwyn Manning discuss the aftermath...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • La’o Hamutuk calls for inquiry into Timor GAP ‘mismanagement’ of oil ...
    The Suai project on the South Coast … “liberated” land but confused communities.Photo: La’o Hamutuk David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. AN INDEPENDENT Timor-Leste development and social justice agency has called for an inquiry into the Timor GAP corporation...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • What Is Nicky Hager?
    WHAT WILL HISTORY MAKE of Nicky Hager? That slight, perpetually boyish, journalist who descends periodically, like the admonishing angel in a medieval mystery play, to trouble our consciences and wreak merry havoc with the orderly conduct of our political affairs....
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Can anyone in msm explain how after Dirty Politics that they all got played...
    Would you not think, that after reading Dirty Politics, that our mainstream media wouldn’t allow themselves to get tricked and played again by the VERY SAME discredited pundits? The best new feature on Radio NZ is their ‘Blog Watch’ and their...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Crusher Collins caught out lying about Privacy Commissioner – is this her...
    Crusher angry. Crusher smash own career. Crusher more angry. You would think that after getting outed as such a nasty, vicious piece of work in Dirty Politics, that Crusher would be scrambling to dial back the lies and manipulations. Apparently...
    The Daily Blog | 27-08
  • Cunliffe vs Key – first leaders debate
    This is your election ‘moderator’ – just one more reason an incoming Government need to sack everyone at TVNZ and reform it into an actual public broadcaster. The first leaders debate happens this Thursday, 7pm on TV One. I have...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – An Old and Honourable Profession
      When Dirty Politics started to reference an ex-prostitute I began to get antsy. My first response was “come on Nicky, we decriminalised in 2003. Its sex worker.” My second response was “Ah oh. Who was it and did they...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Bought and paid for: the dirty politics of climate denial
    Has climate denial in New Zealand been bought and paid for by corporate interests? We already know that the ACT Party’s routine denial is closely linked to the financial support the party receives from wealthy free market fundamentalist Alan Gibbs,...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • If the msm read The Daily Blog, THIS wouldn’t be a surprise – explainin...
    Yawn. How embarrassing for Hamish Rutherford and Andrea Vance, their breathless article today suggests that the idea of Labour and NZ First cutting a  deal over the buy back of assets  is some how new news. Silly mainstream media  journalists. If...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker??
    Yesterday I did some calculations to find out what tax John Key pays compared to a worker on the minimum wage. And I put out this media release for the Mana Movement: MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Hip hop death threats – the selective outrage of our media
    PM death threat in hip hop songAn Auckland hip-hop crew slammed for releasing a song with lyrics that apparently include a threat to kill Prime Minister John Key are urging young people to enrol to vote. Kill The PM, by...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes
    Watch Slater turn into Key right before your eyes...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this!
    I don’t always agree with Patrick Gower – but he didn’t deserve this weird spear tackle from behind by his own company. I was listening to this interview at the time, and the awkwardness of it must be the worst...
    The Daily Blog | 26-08
  • Is it weird Radio NZ ban me yet still have….
    Is it weird Radio NZ ban me for life because I criticised the Prime Minister yet still have Matthew Hooton, David Farrar and Jordan Williams, 3 of the main protagonists revealed in Dirty Politics as part of their ongoing political...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Christchurch GCSB meeting – why mass surveillance matters in 2014
    This is the video for last weeks GCSB meeting in Christchurch. Don’t forget Nicky Hager’s public meeting Wednesday night in Auckland, TDB will live stream the event in the interests of our democracy. Broadcast starts 7.30pm here on TDB....
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Assange, Greenwald to appear at Town Hall meeting? + KDC is not the hacker ...
    Wikileaks founder and the engineer of revealing some of the largest abuses of power in the modern era, Julian Assange, is rumoured to be appearing at the September 15th Town Hall meeting. Assange would join award winning investigative journalist Glen...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Why Paula Bennett will be the next leader and Hooton throws the Prime Minis...
    I don’t think the public have any idea of the behind the scenes meltdown now occurring within National. There are plenty of decent right wingers who all have ethical standards who have looked at what their leaders have been doing and...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – That Awkward Feeling When Your Campaign Goe...
    Urgh. It’s a thankless and nearly impossible task politically firefighting some days. Somebody (who isn’t you, but who’s in your care, or whom you’ve got a close professional relationship with) does or says something stupid; somebody from the Media’s there...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Dirty politics goes viral
    Join the latest social networking craze this election that every Dog Cat and Jabba is putting on their facebook pages.     Joe Trinder – Ngāti Awa Born and born in Ōtepoti Ōtākou, Ex RNZN he is an Information Technology...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Blogwatch: An open letter to David Farrar: Please, be that guy
    Dear David, In light of  Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics, you wrote a blog entitled ‘Some changes on Kiwiblog’ and you suggested it was time to tighten up ship on your website, saying “I want to improve trust in myself,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • What The Hell Was That! Reflections on the media’s coverage of the Intern...
    WHAT, EXACTLY, DO WE KNOW about the confrontation outside Internet-Mana’s campaign launch? Well, we know the news media was there in force. We also know Internet-Mana’s media person, Pam Corkery, blew her stack. We know that Corkery’s outburst led the...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • NZ First candidate – homophobic, bennie bashing anti-intellectual clown
    Oh God, apart from Ron Mark, Tracey Martin, Curwen Rolinson and Winston before midday, the woeful cavalcade of political circus freaks NZ First seem to attract has picked up another hitchhiker. This time Epsom candidate Cliff Lyon who said this about Labour… “If...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Nicky Hager Public Meeting LIVESTREAM on The Daily Blog 7.30pm Wednesday 27...
    As part of our commitment to the 2014 Election debate, The Daily Blog will Livestream the Nicky Hager public meeting in Auckland, 7.30pm live from the Mt Eden War Memorial this Wednesday on this site. Doors open at 7pm. It...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Opening Night. It’s like an opera!
    On Saturday night just gone, we collectively experienced one of the premier panegyrys of political pageantry in our three yearly electoral cycle. For one glorious weekend evening every three years, it’s not the All Blacks or some Super 14 team, or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Unions – what ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 25-08
  • Timor-Leste’s Parliament handed ‘humiliating’ defeat over harsh media...
    East Timorese journalists raise their hands to approve the Timor-Leste JournalistCode of Ethics in October 2013. Photo: Tempo Semanal/Cafe Pacific   David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. PACIFIC SCOOP reported this week that East Timor’s Appeal Court had scrapped...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • THIS is why we need a public broadcaster!
    The richest 20% of us in NZ own 70% of the wealth, with 18% in the hands of the second richest quintile, and 10% in the hands of the middle quintile. Just 2 per cent was owned by people in...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • A vote for Key is a vote for this
    A vote for Key is a vote for this...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Why the Secret Intelligence Service feeding Cameron Slater information is s...
    Folks, it doesn’t matter if you are Right or Left, the issue of the Secret Intelligence Service being forced to feed a far right hate speech merchant like Cameron Slater with sensitive information is an ‘us’ issue. The SIS are...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • How lost and irrelevant are ACT?
    So ACT had it’s ‘launch’. Well, what passes as an ACT launch these days. Lot’s of anorak’s with that 1000 yard star and dreams of a Milton Friedman Free Market dancing behind their eyelids all crammed into a room small...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Party rowing advert aimed at Gen Xers
    Unkind wags such as myself would suggest that if the above were a real representation of National, it would look more like this…   National know they have the rural mob and the angry provincial vote locked in, with their...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • National Housing propaganda – McGehan Close Revisited
    .   . Housing has become a major, defining issue in New Zealand. We have critical shortages and escalating prices in  in the main centres and falling house values in the regions. The National government has addressed the supply &...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • The boldest, most creative and dynamic policy on employment for two generat...
    If you watched TV news last night you could be forgiven for thinking that a circus was on when Internet MANA launched its election campaign today. The reporting was abysmal but I won’t rehash it here because it’s been described...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Call for Aaron Bhatnagar’s resignation from govt body
    .   . One of the many sordid “bit”-players in Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“, and one of Cameron Slater’s inner-cabal, is businessman, National Party card-carrying cadre,  and former city councillor, Aaron Bhatnagar; . . In 2008, Bhatnagar was caught...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Internet MANA announce free tertiary education & full employment – me...
    Internet MANA launch their campaign after an extraordinary road tour and after gaining 4% in the Colmar Brunton Poll, today should have been the start point for a momentous occasion  in progressive political history. It was, but sadly most won’t...
    The Daily Blog | 24-08
  • Privilege denies true representation of disability rights
    The human right of people with disabilities in New Zealand has come back into the spotlight by the Human Rights Commission. The report named ‘Making Disability Rights Real’ highlights some of the main issues as being adequate data collection, accessibility,...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Election TV campaign ads – Opening Night
    . .The infamous National Party ‘Dancing Cossacks’ Attack advert  NZ, 23 August -  The election campaign “kicked off” on Saturday evening, with a one hour “televisual feast”. Party advertisements were broadcast for National, Labour, Greens, NZ First, United Future/Peter Dunne,...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Blogging vs Journalism vs Politics – The 7 latest revolting revelations
    So we now enter the most dangerous phase for National, the phase where the minutia of detail is so great now, the media have all the ammunition to keep asking questions that clearly show Key isn’t being honest in his...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • A positive story of political co-operation!
    .   . Wellington, NZ, 23 August - The following is a true story and shows how the natural inclination of the rank-and-file of our main left-wing parties is to work together… I’ve been in contact with both the Green...
    The Daily Blog | 23-08
  • Labour’s environment policy welcomed
    The independent conservation organisation Forest & Bird says that overall the Labour Party’s newly released environment policy would go a long way towards protecting New Zealand’s natural heritage....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • National: Not our Future Marches across New Zealand
    Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government's track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin to oppose National's...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Tune in to tonight’s debate from 7pm
    The countdown is on! You can watch the first leader’s debate for 2014 tonight, 7pm, on TV One ....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Gamblefree Day 1 September
    It's Gamblefree Day this Monday 1 September, the national awareness day for problem gambling in New Zealand. While traditionally celebrated on the first day of September, many events and activities are held both before and after this day to raise...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Success through captioning should be a given as a Right
    Success through captioning should be a given as a Right per the Convention on the Rights of People with Disabilities...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Alcohol Marketing Committee Questions Government’s Motives
    An Independent Expert Committee on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (IECAAS) has been formed out of concern amongst alcohol and public health researchers about the government’s Ministerial Forum on Alcohol Advertising and Sponsorship (MFAAS)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • How Much Higher Can Auckland Prices Go?
    National's plan to liberalise the use of Kiwisaver funds and its proposal to raise ts cheap "Welcome Home" loan thresholds to help buyers purchase a new home has been welcomed by home building companies but attacked as a "welfare scheme...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • OPC submission period extended
    We have extended the submission period for the modified reassessment of a bee control affecting five organophosphate and carbamate insecticides (APP202142)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Vinay Deobhakta struck off roll of barristers and solicitors
    The New Zealand Lawyers and Conveyancers Disciplinary Tribunal has ordered former Tauranga lawyer Vinay Deobhakta to be struck off the roll of barristers and solicitors....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Major parties to front up for Climate Voter election debate
    New Zealand’s main political parties will take part in ‘The Great Climate Voter Debate’ on September 3....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Family violence… too big to be ignored
    As Annah Stretton gears up for her New Zealand Fashion Week show on Thursday she is utilizing her spotlight to help change the face of family violence in this country saying “the problem is far too big to ignore”....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Candidate’s SOS to northern Maori voters: Save our seats!
    (Extract from address by Rev Te Hira Paenga to Kura Hourua Maori Political Leaders hui, in Whangarei this evening)....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Mary O’Neill to Stand for the Alliance in Napier
    The Alliance Party has confirmed Mary O’Neill as the Alliance candidate in the Napier Electorate for the 2014 election....
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • TONIGHT [28/8/14]: The Great Political Comedy Debate
    It's a night for debating. You could stay home frowning at tonight's Leaders debate, or laugh it up with us at BATS!...
    Scoop politics | 28-08
  • Cunliffe against personal responsibility over billboards
    The accusation by David Cunliffe that the Conservative Party is subscribing to a surveillance society by protecting its billboards via the use of motion sensor cameras reveals an anti-personal responsibility position by the about-to-be-retired Leader...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Groundbreaking health and climate conference
    The World Health Organization (WHO) is holding its first conference on climate change and health at its headquarters in Geneva this week, with New Zealand health experts in attendance....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te Tai Tokerau Party
    Last night at the Leadership Academy of Company A debate Clinton Dearlove announced the creation of a new political party supported by Whanau and Hapu....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Significant fallout from Dirty Politics allegations
    Dirty politics ... costing National up to 3.8% of its pre-publication support Large numbers of New Zealanders are aware of and talking about the issues raised as a result of the publication of Nicky Hager’s book, Dirty Politics, according to...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Colin Craig is “deluded and dangerous” – Act
    “Colin Craig is proposing a radical transformation of our constitution. The Conservatives are proposing to overthrow of one hundred and fifty odd years of parliamentary democracy and replace it with binding referenda” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • WoF law will evict the poor and students from their houses
    The Green warrant of fitness law will evict the poor and students from their houses, if they’re lucky enough to find a place to rent in the first place...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Police response to IPCA report on ‘out of control’ parties
    Police accept today's Independent Police Conduct Authority report recommendations regarding the handling of 'out of control' parties and has already improved its policies and practices for managing these complex and sometimes violent situations....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Review of Police handling of ‘out of control’ parties
    An Independent Police Conduct Authority review has found that Police are working to ensure officers called upon to deal with out of control gatherings in future are better trained to deal with the situations they may face....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Wynyard and NZ Police Announce Ground-breaking Partnership
    Auckland, 28 August 2014 - Wynyard Group, a market leader in advanced crime analytics software and services, today welcomed the New Zealand Police as a long term partner in its Crime Science Research Institute (CSRI)....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Polls confirm dirty politics out and the Conservatives in
    The latest 3News-Reid Research poll has the Conservative Party on 4.6 per cent which means they are virtually on their way to Parliament. Garth McVicar, the Conservative Party candidate for the Napier electorate believes the polls are proof that the...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Toke the Vote 2014: NORML’s guide to NZ cannabis policies
    NORML’s policy, renewed at our recent national conference , is to encourage supporters to vote for parties and candidates who will work to reform our cannabis laws....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Internet Mana List Embodies Modern Aotearoa
    An impressive mix of personal and professional skills, cultural backgrounds and ages marks the release of Internet MANA’s combined party list. “Our list highlights the calibre of talent woven throughout Internet MANA,” said leader Hone Harawira....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • The Dirty Politics Fallout
    Tonight’s 3News-Reid Research poll shows that the Conservative Party is on the verge of making it into the next Parliament, even without an electorate deal with National. The poll, conducted in the week following the release of Nicky Hager’s...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Te reo Māori trending at New Zealand Fashion Week
    Language and fashion express culture and identity so it’s fitting for the Māori Party to launch its te reo Māori policy at New Zealand’s premiere fashion event in Auckland....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Party And Candidate Lists for 2014 Election Released
    The Electoral Commission has released the nominations for the 2014 General Election, with 15 registered political parties and 554 candidates contesting the election....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Take Steps Against Child Poverty with Us!
    TAKE STEPS AGAINST CHILD POVERTY WITH US! Britomart to Aotea Square, Auckland, 11am, Saturday 6 Sept Music * Interactive Art * Stilt Walkers * Great Speakers * Plus more!...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Leading politicians to debate NZ’s role in the world
    Have you ever wondered where New Zealand stands when it comes to issues beyond our borders? Join Amnesty International's North Shore Group on Monday 1 September for a lively cross party debate and the chance to find out the answer...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Political Debate on Family Violence – Livestream
    The Dunedin Collaboration Against Family Violence is happy to announce the upcoming political debate on Family Violence chaired by Professor Nicola Atwool of the University of Otago. Family Violence is a huge problem in our community and we invite representatives...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Politicians ignore 20% of New Zealanders
    Despite 20% of New Zealanders supporting it, none of the parties currently represented in Parliament endorse the legalisation of cannabis....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Company tax rates
    The Op Ed pages of the left-leaning New York Times are full of articles by economists supporting proposals to dramatically lower Company Taxes. These economists are urging the United States to lower company taxes and point to Canada where the...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Stephen Dudley Case: No appeal or review of discharge
    On 8 August 2014 Crown Law received a request from the office of the Auckland Crown Solicitor to consider a Crown appeal against the discharge without conviction entered in respect of M in the High Court at Auckland on 7...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Dudley Family Statement
    “We are utterly devastated at the news regarding the law not allowing for this unjustified discharge without conviction to be appealed....
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Chief Judge: Chief Sized Offender Bias
    “Justice by name, not by nature” states Ruth Money Sensible Sentencing Trust National Spokesperson, of Justice Helen Winkelmann’s decision to discharge without conviction the offender charged with the fatal attack on 15 year old schoolboy Stephen...
    Scoop politics | 27-08
  • Confusion over BPS Reducing Crime and Reoffending Results
    A survey has revealed widespread confusion – even amongst professionals in the justice sector – about what the government’s reducing crime and reoffending progress reports actually mean....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Commission condemns violent attack on Gay Wellingtonians
    The Human Rights Commission has condemned a violent attack on staff and patrons at a gay bar in central Wellington last Friday. GayNZ reported that the alleged attackers were abusive and violent when they realised the bar and the people...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • One down, 12 to go says Community Housing Aotearoa
    The Waimahia Inlet is a step in the right direction for community housing to deliver 20% of New Zealand’s social and affordable housing by 2020, says Community Housing Aotearoa. CHA Director Scott Figenshow says the sector has been set a...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Research considering changes to pedestrian crossing laws
    A University of Canterbury research project has been considering the costs and benefits of a range of potential changes to pedestrian crossing laws that would bring New Zealand in line with the rest of the world....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Dairy farmers and consumers at risk from unapproved GE Grain
    The Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) must immediately test all maize and soy for presence of unapproved GE lines coming from the Americas....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • NZ on Air Refuse to Condemn “Kill the PM” Song
    New Zealand On Air has refused to condemn @peace’s 'Kill the PM' song, and will not provide any assurance that no further taxpayer money will be used to support groups that promote violence and political hate. Earlier today the Taxpayers’...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • iPredict Ltd 2014 Election Update #32
    The combined wisdom of iPredict’s 8000 registered traders suggests National has begun a recovery after its prospects crashed last week following the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics . The governing party’s forecast party vote is back...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Juicy carrot for prisoners alarming suggestion – McVicar
    The Conservative Party Justice Spokesman, Garth McVicar says the public will be alarmed to learn that the only tool the Corrections Department has available to get prisoners to behave is to offer them a juicy carrot....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Panel: Fiji’s Return to Democracy
    Fiji’s post-coup elections and their impact in the Pacific o What is the role of the media in the Elections? o How might New Zealand help Fiji on its return to democracy?...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Cross-party consensus on climate change critical
    Senior NZ health professionals welcome recent policy announcements on climate change by major political parties, saying cross-party consensus is critical to address this leading health issue....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Minister of Transport to Attend Election Debate Tomorrow
    Organisers of tomorrow night's transport debate in Auckland are delighted that Minister of Transport Hon. Gerry Brownlee will now be attending....
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Society Applauds Proposed NZ-Wide Risk Assessment
    The Wise Response Society is heartened to see that Labour' just released Climate Change policy includes formal support for the Society's call for a New Zealand-wide Risk Assessment. The Green Party has also formally acknowledged support for the Wise...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
  • Iwi Leaders welcome Labour policy on climate change
    Labour’s policy to stamp out price – gouging by big polluters that has cost New Zealand tax-payers $1.4 billion over the last 3 years and especially impacted low – income Maori households has been welcomed by Dr. Apirana Mahuika, Chairman...
    Scoop politics | 26-08
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