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	<title>Comments on: Open mike 17/12/2009</title>
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		<title>By: lukas</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17122009/comment-page-1/#comment-179728</link>
		<dc:creator>lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In case you missed it the first time BliP

&quot;Is it wrong to compare a group to what he compared them too? Absolutley.&quot;

So, back to the question I just asked- Do you think mining should be compared to the lose of a child&#039;s life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In case you missed it the first time BliP</p>
<p>&#8220;Is it wrong to compare a group to what he compared them too? Absolutley.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, back to the question I just asked- Do you think mining should be compared to the lose of a child&#8217;s life?</p>
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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17122009/comment-page-1/#comment-179724</link>
		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you support the loony lord calling a young Jew a member of the H1tler Youth? Thought so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you support the loony lord calling a young Jew a member of the H1tler Youth? Thought so.</p>
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		<title>By: lukas</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17122009/comment-page-1/#comment-179719</link>
		<dc:creator>lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess, like Jeanette, you would also compare mining to the loss of a child&#039;s life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess, like Jeanette, you would also compare mining to the loss of a child&#8217;s life?</p>
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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17122009/comment-page-1/#comment-179715</link>
		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insomuchas the holocaust/AGW deniers are deliberately ignorant of facts concerning the death of millions. The only difference, really, is that there will be more deaths as a result of AGW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insomuchas the holocaust/AGW deniers are deliberately ignorant of facts concerning the death of millions. The only difference, really, is that there will be more deaths as a result of AGW.</p>
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		<title>By: lukas</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17122009/comment-page-1/#comment-179709</link>
		<dc:creator>lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 00:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mindless chanting of slogans over and over, perhaps.  Is it wrong to compare a group to what he compared them too? Absolutley.  Should they have taken over the meeting they way they did? No way.

So BLiP, you think comparing climate change denial is the same as denying the holocaust?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mindless chanting of slogans over and over, perhaps.  Is it wrong to compare a group to what he compared them too? Absolutley.  Should they have taken over the meeting they way they did? No way.</p>
<p>So BLiP, you think comparing climate change denial is the same as denying the holocaust?</p>
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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17122009/comment-page-1/#comment-179705</link>
		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While there is a clear parallel between those who deny the holocaust and those who deny AGW, do you really believe there is a correlation between international protests and the H1tler Youth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there is a clear parallel between those who deny the holocaust and those who deny AGW, do you really believe there is a correlation between international protests and the H1tler Youth?</p>
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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17122009/comment-page-1/#comment-179624</link>
		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See the second link. I guess that means YOU fail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the second link. I guess that means YOU fail.</p>
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		<title>By: lukas</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17122009/comment-page-1/#comment-179599</link>
		<dc:creator>lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also BLiP, you fail to mention when and where he called them that... incase you want to see it yourself, look here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPBxNVwD-uE&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also BLiP, you fail to mention when and where he called them that&#8230; incase you want to see it yourself, look here <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPBxNVwD-uE&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPBxNVwD-uE&#038;feature=related</a></p>
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		<title>By: lukas</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17122009/comment-page-1/#comment-179595</link>
		<dc:creator>lukas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like Jim huh?

http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2009/12/climate-scientist-jim-salinger-stoops-to-lowest-debate-level-ever.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like Jim huh?</p>
<p><a href="http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2009/12/climate-scientist-jim-salinger-stoops-to-lowest-debate-level-ever.html" rel="nofollow">http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2009/12/climate-scientist-jim-salinger-stoops-to-lowest-debate-level-ever.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: BLiP</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17122009/comment-page-1/#comment-179589</link>
		<dc:creator>BLiP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The loony Lord Monekytune proves he&#039;s all class when he calls a a young Jewish climate change activist &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDzU6HqxY5o&amp;feature=rec-r2-2r-6-HM&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;H1tler Youth&lt;/a&gt; after dropping in on the SustainUs booth in Copenhagen. The loony Lord&#039;s visit was retaliation for having his own moment in the spotlight &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b-vrBKMxy4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;trashed &lt;/a&gt;by acitivists at the denialist group Americans For Prosperity. Following the protest at the denialist group, Monkeytune is caught on camera discussing the use of the legal process to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWi1GvLQHFc&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;silence&lt;/a&gt;  IPCC scientists. 

Wattaguy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The loony Lord Monekytune proves he&#8217;s all class when he calls a a young Jewish climate change activist <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDzU6HqxY5o&amp;feature=rec-r2-2r-6-HM" rel="nofollow">H1tler Youth</a> after dropping in on the SustainUs booth in Copenhagen. The loony Lord&#8217;s visit was retaliation for having his own moment in the spotlight <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b-vrBKMxy4" rel="nofollow">trashed </a>by acitivists at the denialist group Americans For Prosperity. Following the protest at the denialist group, Monkeytune is caught on camera discussing the use of the legal process to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWi1GvLQHFc" rel="nofollow">silence</a>  IPCC scientists. </p>
<p>Wattaguy!</p>
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		<title>By: gobsmacked</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17122009/comment-page-1/#comment-179562</link>
		<dc:creator>gobsmacked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 21:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phew! New Zealand dodges a bullet ...

&quot;Prime Minister John Key has been bumped at the last minute from a worldwide televised climate change debate - in favour of Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.

The BBC World news debate today - dubbed The Greatest Debate on Earth - has been billed as the media highlight of the Copenhagen climate talks and the Prime Minister had announced he would be in it.

John Key was told only shortly before he arrived in Copenhagen the evening before the debate that he was not going to take part. The show promises to challenge leaders over their commitment to fighting climate change.

Spokesman Kevin Taylor said it was disappointing and that the PM would have to re-structure his day, which had been arranged around the debate.&quot;

(Herald)

So the world doesn&#039;t get to hear JK talk about our &quot;immshuns chading skeem&quot;, and make scripted &quot;spontaneous&quot; jokes like the embarrassing uncle at a wedding.

Thanks, BBC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phew! New Zealand dodges a bullet &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Prime Minister John Key has been bumped at the last minute from a worldwide televised climate change debate &#8211; in favour of Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.</p>
<p>The BBC World news debate today &#8211; dubbed The Greatest Debate on Earth &#8211; has been billed as the media highlight of the Copenhagen climate talks and the Prime Minister had announced he would be in it.</p>
<p>John Key was told only shortly before he arrived in Copenhagen the evening before the debate that he was not going to take part. The show promises to challenge leaders over their commitment to fighting climate change.</p>
<p>Spokesman Kevin Taylor said it was disappointing and that the PM would have to re-structure his day, which had been arranged around the debate.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Herald)</p>
<p>So the world doesn&#8217;t get to hear JK talk about our &#8220;immshuns chading skeem&#8221;, and make scripted &#8220;spontaneous&#8221; jokes like the embarrassing uncle at a wedding.</p>
<p>Thanks, BBC!</p>
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		<title>By: Mach1</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-17122009/comment-page-1/#comment-179513</link>
		<dc:creator>Mach1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 19:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And we think we have problems with our health system:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/12/why-progressives-are-batshit-crazy-to.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Why Progressives Are Batshit Crazy to Oppose the Senate Bill&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;i&gt;Add the $6,247 to the $13,149 and you get an annual cost of $19,576 -- for a family earning $54,000!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we think we have problems with our health system:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/12/why-progressives-are-batshit-crazy-to.html" rel="nofollow">FiveThirtyEight: Politics Done Right: Why Progressives Are Batshit Crazy to Oppose the Senate Bill</a>.</p>
<p><i>Add the $6,247 to the $13,149 and you get an annual cost of $19,576 &#8212; for a family earning $54,000!</i></p>
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