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	<title>Comments on: Open mike 23/11/09</title>
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		<title>By: Mac</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-231109/comment-page-1/#comment-176011</link>
		<dc:creator>Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scientific method. Like climategate, you mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientific method. Like climategate, you mean?</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-231109/comment-page-1/#comment-173924</link>
		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I love a good argument and have somewhat fixed views,I have never in my life wished someone dead,even though at times I tell them to FRO and leave me alone.They just have different views thats all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I love a good argument and have somewhat fixed views,I have never in my life wished someone dead,even though at times I tell them to FRO and leave me alone.They just have different views thats all.</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-231109/comment-page-1/#comment-173921</link>
		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We will see i guess?.Soon I would think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We will see i guess?.Soon I would think!</p>
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		<title>By: NickS</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-231109/comment-page-1/#comment-173885</link>
		<dc:creator>NickS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 04:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mentioned in yesterdays open mike thread, of which to add to the mocking of Andrei, here&#039;s a lovely deconstruction of CCD bs on the leaks from greenfyre:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/climate-deniers-hoax-themselves-again&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Climate change Deniers hoax themselves   again.&lt;/a&gt; 

And yes, when one is vexed and annoyed by morons, it&#039;s rather human to morbidly laugh at their demise, whether it be via death or banhammer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mentioned in yesterdays open mike thread, of which to add to the mocking of Andrei, here&#8217;s a lovely deconstruction of CCD bs on the leaks from greenfyre:<br />
<a href="http://greenfyre.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/climate-deniers-hoax-themselves-again" rel="nofollow">Climate change Deniers hoax themselves   again.</a> </p>
<p>And yes, when one is vexed and annoyed by morons, it&#8217;s rather human to morbidly laugh at their demise, whether it be via death or banhammer.</p>
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		<title>By: todd</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-231109/comment-page-1/#comment-173876</link>
		<dc:creator>todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 
No one here has mentioned the big story of today.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26386792-401,00.html

&lt;strong&gt;[lprent: Why is that a big story? Oh because you think so, and what qualifications do you have to be able to understand anything that is in those e-mails? Nothing? 
Probably why there hasn&#039;t been much here about this. But I can imagine that the illiterate CCD&#039;s are jerking off to it elsewhere.
Why don&#039;t you do something useful - read RealClimate on the subject. ]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
No one here has mentioned the big story of today.<br />
<a href="http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26386792-401,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26386792-401,00.html</a></p>
<p><strong>[lprent: Why is that a big story? Oh because you think so, and what qualifications do you have to be able to understand anything that is in those e-mails? Nothing?<br />
Probably why there hasn't been much here about this. But I can imagine that the illiterate CCD's are jerking off to it elsewhere.<br />
Why don't you do something useful - read RealClimate on the subject. ]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: the pinkpostman</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-231109/comment-page-1/#comment-173843</link>
		<dc:creator>the pinkpostman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both would be excellent electorale MPs .
Jacinda Ardern is a highly intelligent young lady ,with a most pleasing personality,.what is more she is the Chairperson of the Youth Branch of Socialist  International meaning that her political education is of the highest standard. This, plus she has proved to be a most hard working list MP. making  her an excellent choice for the people of Auckland Central. Having meet her  on a number of occasions I can truthfully say she has impressd me with not only her intelllegence but her obvious commitment to caring Social Democratic ideals. If Jacinda Ardern is  selected then I urge all Auckland Central Voters to get out and vote for an  MP who would serve you well.
 Bye the way I have been a member of the NZLP for nearly 50 years and before that a member of the Labour Party UK. I have meet many MPs and would be MPs this young  lady does impress me..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both would be excellent electorale MPs .<br />
Jacinda Ardern is a highly intelligent young lady ,with a most pleasing personality,.what is more she is the Chairperson of the Youth Branch of Socialist  International meaning that her political education is of the highest standard. This, plus she has proved to be a most hard working list MP. making  her an excellent choice for the people of Auckland Central. Having meet her  on a number of occasions I can truthfully say she has impressd me with not only her intelllegence but her obvious commitment to caring Social Democratic ideals. If Jacinda Ardern is  selected then I urge all Auckland Central Voters to get out and vote for an  MP who would serve you well.<br />
 Bye the way I have been a member of the NZLP for nearly 50 years and before that a member of the Labour Party UK. I have meet many MPs and would be MPs this young  lady does impress me..</p>
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		<title>By: anonymouse</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-231109/comment-page-1/#comment-173840</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New right wing New Zealand capitalist blog involved in &quot;comments for chocolate scandal&quot; learn more at:
http://www.democracymum.co.nz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New right wing New Zealand capitalist blog involved in &#8220;comments for chocolate scandal&#8221; learn more at:<br />
<a href="http://www.democracymum.co.nz" rel="nofollow">http://www.democracymum.co.nz</a></p>
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		<title>By: Gosman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gosman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you think the 9/11 Truthers are wasting their time trying to reopen the investigation then Zorr?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you think the 9/11 Truthers are wasting their time trying to reopen the investigation then Zorr?</p>
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		<title>By: Herodotus</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-231109/comment-page-1/#comment-173832</link>
		<dc:creator>Herodotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was under the illusion that NOT all titular honours were eliminated in 1999. Did not parliament still keep their own e.g Honerable etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the illusion that NOT all titular honours were eliminated in 1999. Did not parliament still keep their own e.g Honerable etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Zorr</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-231109/comment-page-1/#comment-173827</link>
		<dc:creator>Zorr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be perfectly honest, what does it matter these days?

The towers fell down and a whole bunch of war was made because of it. There is no way to take back that day or the years that have passed inbetween or the people killed in the fighting. It is wasted breath on both sides - be a 911 Truther and conspiracy theorist or just accept the official story, at the end of the day it just doesn&#039;t matter at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be perfectly honest, what does it matter these days?</p>
<p>The towers fell down and a whole bunch of war was made because of it. There is no way to take back that day or the years that have passed inbetween or the people killed in the fighting. It is wasted breath on both sides &#8211; be a 911 Truther and conspiracy theorist or just accept the official story, at the end of the day it just doesn&#8217;t matter at all.</p>
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		<title>By: gingercrush</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-231109/comment-page-1/#comment-173826</link>
		<dc:creator>gingercrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So any thoughts towards Twyford likely to stand for Waitakere and Ardern standing for Auckland Central?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So any thoughts towards Twyford likely to stand for Waitakere and Ardern standing for Auckland Central?</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-231109/comment-page-1/#comment-173822</link>
		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you saying that if she stops commenting, you&#039;ll go away?

Is that blackmail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying that if she stops commenting, you&#8217;ll go away?</p>
<p>Is that blackmail?</p>
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		<title>By: felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently? I don&#039;t think I &lt;i&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt; have.

So what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently? I don&#8217;t think I <i>ever</i> have.</p>
<p>So what?</p>
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		<title>By: Cascade</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-231109/comment-page-1/#comment-173816</link>
		<dc:creator>Cascade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oil and drugs would be the more menial bonuses.

I&#039;m sure the NWO can get their hands on these goods at anytime.

It is more about â€˜control&#039;.

First you install fear into the lives of humans, then (as a humanitarian ruse) beef up the security, while at the same time you â€˜prison&#039; the world population.
I doubt this is a â€˜religious&#039; thing, even though Islamic extremists are involved, but then I can imagine so are the CIA.

The NWO don&#039;t care about religion, they just use it, to trick people (the innocents and also- the foolish that are involved, with the crime itself)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oil and drugs would be the more menial bonuses.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the NWO can get their hands on these goods at anytime.</p>
<p>It is more about â€˜control&#8217;.</p>
<p>First you install fear into the lives of humans, then (as a humanitarian ruse) beef up the security, while at the same time you â€˜prison&#8217; the world population.<br />
I doubt this is a â€˜religious&#8217; thing, even though Islamic extremists are involved, but then I can imagine so are the CIA.</p>
<p>The NWO don&#8217;t care about religion, they just use it, to trick people (the innocents and also- the foolish that are involved, with the crime itself)</p>
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		<title>By: prism</title>
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		<dc:creator>prism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that VTR - Treasury would have required six months research and a big budget to come up with that summation (which they wouldn&#039;t of course).

I wonder if we can pare Treasury&#039;s costs down, sort of like politicians are now - they could pay for their own extravagant gear, furnishings etc.  I think one of their executive ilk had his (her) desk imported from Italy in the free-market feeding frenzy around 1990.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that VTR &#8211; Treasury would have required six months research and a big budget to come up with that summation (which they wouldn&#8217;t of course).</p>
<p>I wonder if we can pare Treasury&#8217;s costs down, sort of like politicians are now &#8211; they could pay for their own extravagant gear, furnishings etc.  I think one of their executive ilk had his (her) desk imported from Italy in the free-market feeding frenzy around 1990.</p>
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