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Open mike 23/12/2012

Written By: - Date published: 6:00 am, December 23rd, 2012 - 176 comments
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Step right up to the mike…

176 comments on “Open mike 23/12/2012”

  1. KhandallaViper 1

    The continual decline in the quality of life for the majority of Kiwis started before the GFC. The decline in the productive sector commenced during the last Labour Government.

    There is a “conventional wisdom” in Wellington that involves pro-forma tut tutting about the high levels of emigration, youth unemployment and the current account deficit.
    The dangerous dependence of primary sector exports while R&D based innovation and entrepreneurship are dis-incentivised is acknowledged but not solutioned.

    Wellington is not working. Our Politicians do not have any sense or urgency!

    Why? Because they are unconnected with the people who are at the receiving end of he policy failure. Sadly this applies to both National and Labour.

    This is most obvious to a Labour supporter who sees that the most vulnerable part of our society, those 800,000 people who saw no value in voting in 2011, are ignored by the current leadership, while we use scarce funds to engage ” focus groups” to tell us what voters are thinking!

    WTF? Our Labour Party is so dis-jointed that our MPs and their Wellington staff do not realise that they can find out what the voters want by engaging with the membership. For free!
    The party needs to get back to working with the membership, get back to its roots, work with ALL New Zealanders.

    We have been loosing for the past 6 years because we ave failed to give Kiwis a reason to vote for us. To win in 2014 we have to have a party that is exciting to those 800,000.

    • Jenny 1.1

      Hear, hear.

    • Another Viper 1.2

      The Constitutional Review should be celebrated because it gives a new framework in which the members can engage in policy making.
      The MPs can’t ignore us. Members must make sure their wishes are heard and that there is mindset in the leadership team that will take them seriously.
      That is the only way we can gaze a united party that will win in 2014.
      Real people politics and genuine (& competent communications) does not need a layer of marketing people. Dump the bullsh*t and get connected with the members. Then we will know what is needed to be relevant to the 800k.

      • Fortran 1.2.1

        AnotherViper

        Changing the leadership framework will do nothing unless constructive understandable policy is formulated for the 2014 Election.
        On paper, with the Greens, we can be in power, but it is cohesive Labour Policy that people will expect, and accept.
        Weasel words and pious incoherent platitudes, as expounded by the Greens, will not do.
        Labour must identify it self alone, and not as an adjunct of the Greens

    • Tim 1.3

      Ditto hear hear!
      Which is why, after a long time (lifetime) supporting Labour, I can no longer vote for them. Ever since the neo-liberal capture it’s been a matter of voting for a least, worst option – that is until the realisation that there are alternatives whereby one can vote for parties that are closer to Labour traditions than that bearing the flag – Greens and Mana (for example).
      There are benefits too – one doesn’t have to support insipid little creatures that pop up on “Breakfast” with equally insipid creatures from a Gnat Party.

    • Napkins 1.4

      Why engage with the wider membership when all the wisdom of the world exists within 500m of Boulcott St, Wellington? /sarc
      More seriously, you are correct, Labour has been undermining itself for many years now. Even a growing proportion of the middle class (household incomes above $50K but less than $100K) are beginning to see that things are very wrong.

      • GeoffCartwright 1.4.1

        That is my position too, everyone o talk to from the marginalised non voter to the so called middle class is getting it these day, even entrenched Tories know something’s up just can’t admit that it’s the system failing.
        So Hear Hear, hear the people voices and act now.

        • TiggerViper 1.4.1.1

          Nicely put KV.

        • Jenny 1.4.1.2

          Here is a rap song that sez it all.

          http://soundcloud.com/homebrewcrew/home-brew-listen-to-us-feat

          “GST will rise to 15%”, John Key

          “This is a complete and utter hoax, even if you believe in global warming sir and I am somewhat suspect on it” John Key

          ….cos this ain’t no fuck’n joke, we’re fuck’n broke.
          Far from cutting coke.
          All we got is luck and hope.
          Dreams going up in smoke.
          “One day, some way”, Yeah, that’s what we used to say.
          Now we black out, simply write so the futures not great.
          The youth that we threw away ain’t never coming back.
          Our permanent record won’t end up forever like a cat.
          Where I come from, minimum wage is what we run on.
          No wonder why we are spending our pay getting drunk on some cheap shit.
          Standing in line for some free shit, to eat, and contemplating crime, with the weetbix
          The same old story that you have heard a million times before.
          I bet their party doesn’t even let it cross their mind no more.
          Fuck’n Prime Minister ain’t even got the time to talk.
          Cutting off the dole.
          Trying to justify why we’re poor.
          Acting like we’re happy, working underneath the iron claw.
          Where you don’t even need to give a reason why we’ve been fired for.
          Trying to fight the law is like trying to fight a tiger for. Ask my old man they locked him for just trying to score. Fuck working in a factory until your 94.
          Course we resort to crime
          And all you get from crime is court. And that’s a fucked up system where justice is just a, juxtaposition between the police and the justice system. Who the fuck is going to listen to us.
          What do they know about missing the bus, it is just another prison of dust. They keep the bread and they give us the crust. And the system is such that there is no politician to trust, that’s gonna listen to us…….

          Thanks to Cut Your Hair, for bringing this slice of genius to my attention

          All transcription errors are my own.

    • Anne 1.5

      Khandalla’s comment is so good and so on the money, I should like to see it as a separate post.

      Something on which all can ponder over the holiday break. You never know, some of our illustrious Labour MPS might see it too – and ponder themselves. There are some Lab pollies who understand what needs to happen, but I fear they have been largely silenced. We have seen what was done – and continues to be done – to David Cunliffe because he dared to stand up and support the membership having a greater say in the management of the Labour Party.

      Yes, I can hear the ABC club now… rubbish, it suited Cunliffe’s political ambitions to support them. A cop out – beltway crap from beltway career pollies who don’t give a damm about the members except at election time.

      One small point in the last sentence KV. It’s losing – not loosing.

    • David Viperious H 1.6

      But the big difference between the parties is that the Nats know they can afford to alienate the 800,000 votes because they’ll pick up the ‘redneck’ vote. Now Labour NEED the 800,000 votes BUT they have NO idea on how to connect with those voters. So unless the Greens connect to those voters and get up to 20% of the vote. Then the Nats will win the same way they won last time. By APATHY

      • Crimson Nile 1.6.1

        That analysis might not be quite correct. The Nats don’t want to alienate or antagonise those 800,000 non-voters. The Nats want those people apathetic, seeing no alternatives, and having insufficient motivation to actually turn out and vote. Supporting Shearer in charge of Labour is part of the strategy to ensure that Labour does not present a strong, credible, alternative vision of New Zealand.

        The last thing the Nats want to do is to make those 800,000 non-voters angry enough to actually turn up at voting booths.

        Hence, we will see a small increase in the minimum wage, etc.

        The reason that Labour has no idea how to connect with those voters is fairly simple I believe – the Labour hierarchy is too full of people who have no personal connection with those voters.

    • NoseViper (The Nose knows) 1.7

      Hear +100 KV
      I’m afraid we’re stuck in current management style which proscribes listening to the people and prescribes the clever and smart use of funding to have huddles no doubt arranged by PR fairies. These can actually be seen by human eyes as they flit around all the smart places and talk the talk and wear the executive dress and work hard at creating mythical scenarios. And we have been told that Peter Jackson and Weka Workshop are the most creative and imaginative people in the land! And at the back of my mind I feel the words ‘ best practice’ coming to the fore why I don’t know. Maybe because this is a term that all these smart, prissy little smarties speak as they talk about going forward.
      GHU.

      It makes sense to ignore ‘the people’ in general especially as they get poorer. Stick to where the money is and do its bidding and reap the benefits of a good salary and who cares if the people without initiative and the right fit struggle on benefits of another sort.

  2. Two more tracks and off, hopefully not with another name to add to the list.
    Going to be some album cover. All those I’ve emailed and pestered for help, to stop a one percenter from shafting my community, and to grow food to feed the hungry. All those names that did fuck all when it really counted, I got you covered.

    Still need legal help to set up a trust and sign contracts to show I’m 100% genuine. So if you’re a legal beagle and want in, let me know.

    Track 5: Humanoid Logic Machine. http://www.al1en.org

    So you know.
    Nothing to prove. Nothing to fake or hide.
    Nothing to lose. Nothing to break inside.
    Nobodies fool. Nobodies mistake.
    Nobodies fear, I couldn’t take apart and remake.

    I know that I’m old and I’m grey and I’m wasting here,
    But I fight every day, in my way, just to stay clear.
    Breathing ultrasound, buried underground, living like a light unseen.
    I’m not breaking down, I’m just counting down. A Humanoid Logic Machine.
    Counting down and down. Just so you know.

    So you know.
    Nothing to prove. Not even my innocence, Nothing to fake. not even my fake.
    Nothing to lose. There’s no-one or anything, Nothing to break. I couldn’t replace.
    Nobodies fool. Nobodies second choice, Nobodies mistake. Regrets go unclaimed.
    No one I fear. There’s no-one I ever met, I couldn’t take down. could ever get near.

    I know that I’m old and I’m grey and I’ll waste down here,
    But I fight every day, in my way, just to stay clear.
    Breathing ultrasound, buried underground, living like a light unseen.
    I’m not breaking down, I’m just counting down. A Humanoid Logic Machine.
    Breathing ultrasound, buried underground, living like a light unseen.
    I’m not wasting time, I’m defining ‘fine’. The AL1 Logic Machine.
    Counting down and down and down. ‘Til you know.
    And now you know.

    • leftriteleft 2.1

      Cheers Al1en,
      That’s cool music. Keep up the good work.

    • Napkins 2.2

      A very rare humanoid logic machine, a compassionate one.

      • The Al1en 2.2.1

        Thank you very much, both of you.

        As soon as I get the paperwork sorted and get someone to do the website, I’ll put a donate button up and see where it goes.
        “Download for free if you need a dollar more than a hungry child needs a meal” sort of thing. ;)

        They’re the best I can do with limited equipment and talent, but it’s the thought that counts.
        I’m more than happy for music biz lefties to put up, stand up and form a super group and release them for real, just as long as it’s all done for the cause.

        Perhaps there are some out of work animation guys who can do a video or two. Full credit, just as long as you’re free.
        Any help to save Stan Heather Park for the community of Hamilton West, and do something for real to end child poverty will be warmly received.
        The Al1en.

  3. Morrissey 3

    Comedy in the service of terror, mass murder and defamation
    Look what you were unwittingly endorsing if you laughed at Bruno

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/9413864/Sacha-Baron-Cohen-settles-slander-suit-over-grocer-portrayed-as-terrorist-in-film.html

    Sacha Baron Cohen settles slander suit over grocer portrayed as terrorist in film

    A Palestinian grocer portrayed as a terrorist in the movie Bruno has settled his slander suit against film star Sacha Baron Cohen and David Letterman, his lawyer said on Thursday.

    6:30AM BST 20 Jul 2012

    Ayman Abu Aita’s “case is settled to the mutual satisfaction” of everyone involved, attorney Joseph Peter Drennan said. Court records show the case was designated settled and closed Wednesday. Drennan wouldn’t discuss the terms. Lawyers for Baron Cohen, Letterman and other defendants involved with the movie and Letterman’s Late Show didn’t immediately return calls.

    In the 2009 comedy, Baron Cohen plays an Austrian fashion journalist aiming to make peace in the Middle East. He interviews Abu Aita, who’s labelled in a caption as a member of the militant Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade.

    Baron Cohen discussed Bruno’s encounter with a “terrorist” on Letterman’s show on CBS.
    A Christian and “a peace-loving person” who was living in the West Bank, Abu Aita has never associated with the Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigade or any terrorist activity, his court papers said.

    He went to the interview that appeared in Bruno thinking he was talking to a journalist about peace activism, his court complaint said. Instead, the movie spurred death threats against him, damaged his business and made him fear for his family’s safety, the complaint said.
    The suit sought millions of dollars in damages.

    A British comedian, Baron Cohen is known for crafting outlandish characters and he often dupes people into interviews to film their reactions to his antics.

    His lawyers and Letterman’s attorneys have said in court filings that free speech rights protected the statements about Abu Aita in Bruno and the Late Show interview.

    Abu Aita’s “name or likeness was used in a newsworthy context in a documentary-style movie that conveys matters of legitimate public interest,” Baron Cohen’s lawyers said in papers filed last year.
    Source: agencies

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/9413864/Sacha-Baron-Cohen-settles-slander-suit-over-grocer-portrayed-as-terrorist-in-film.html

    • Te Reo Putake 3.1

      I see you’re still unable to justify your racist attack on Baron Cohen, Moz. Perhaps you should get some help for that. Maybe work on your misogyny at the same time?

      • Morrissey 3.1.1

        It’s clear who is racist, and a fanatical, brutal slanderer of democratic protestors.

        Clear if you read the article, that is, and the two I supplied for you yesterday and the day before.

        Still, you refuse to concede, and you remain defiant in your refusal. Your stance would win admiration from a Flat Earther or someone like Leighton Smith, but in the court of rational opinion, your iron-headed intransigence in the face of evidence only makes you look foolish.

        • Te Reo Putake 3.1.1.1

          Any time you find some evidence, feel free to put it up. 4 days and waiting …

          But all you’ve done in the last few days is destroy your credibility, Moz, without damaging Sacha Baron Cohen’s in any way. I note that righties in your position usually retire their names and return under a new handle hoping noone will notice. Perhaps you might consider that clean sheet option, before you move irrevocably to the white sheet with eye holes position?

          • Morrissey 3.1.1.1.1

            The evidence I post is not actually there. And now I’m a “righty”. You’re desperate my friend, as well as foolish.

            • Te Reo Putake 3.1.1.1.1.1

              Your first sentence confirms the paucity of evidence to support your claims against SBC. The second confirms your difficulties with the English language. Comprehension is a vital part of literacy! The third sentence is irrelevant; this is about your complete failure to back up a statement you made, remember? You made the claim, grow some balls and apologise if you can’t substantiate your position.

              • Morrissey

                Your continued defiance in the face of the evidence I have provided you for three days running is remarkable.

                If this was a court of law, you would be punished for flagrant contempt.

            • Daveosaurus 3.1.1.1.1.2

              What makes you a ‘righty’ isn’t your attack on Baron-Cohen; it’s your strident defence of a rapist, using language straight out of the Tory blame-the-victim manual. What is it now? ‘Surprise sex’?

              • Morrissey

                Someone calling himself “Daveosaurus” has decided to step out of his comfort zone….

                He writes, fantastically, of my “strident defence of a rapist, using language straight out of the Tory blame-the-victim manual.”

                If someone could furnish evidence of me ever defending a rapist, could he or she please post it up some time for us?

                No, Daveosaurus, not you. You’re out of your depth, buddy.

                • Te Reo Putake

                  Aways happy to assist. Handy collection of your excuses for Assange’s sexual misbehaviour here:

                  http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-29082012/comment-page-1/#comment-514836

                  • Morrissey

                    Sexual misbehaviour, as in “offends me.” There is no evidence that he raped anyone, and the women being handled by the tender agents of the state in this grotesque persecution of a dissenter did not complain about him.

                    Not that you’d recognize the concept of dissent, being an admirer of state-friendly clowns.

                    • Te Reo Putake

                      If the victims didn’t complain, why is Assinge hiding? Oh, sorry … they didn’t complain to you, so the assaults aren’t real. Glad we cleared that up.

                    • Morrissey

                      You know perfectly well why he’s taken refuge.

                      By the way, I wonder how Joe Strummer would have felt about being endorsed by an enthusiastic supporter of state terror.

                      Irony is not your strong point, is it?

                    • Te Reo Putake

                      So you know even less about Strummer than you know about me, Jews, comedy and women. Quelle surprise.

                    • Populuxe1

                      So basically you are not only a rabid froth-at-the-mouth Antisemite, you’re a misogynistic victim blamer as well. I feel truly vindicated. If you have a go at brown people or Asians you can probably get the trifecta.

                  • QoTViper

                    Gosh, TRP, it’s so unfair of you to provide evidence of things when Morrissey is clearly playing the Don’t Provide Evidence game.

                    • Morrissey

                      I’ve provided three readings (one for each of the last three days) for Te Reo and anyone else to see for themselves. They detail how a popular mainstream comedian targeted and ridiculed an ethnic group for laughs, libeled a Christian activist on American television by calling him an Islamic fighter, then told merciless lies about it, then had to pay out money to the victim of that libel. Te Reo Putake still pretends that “is not evidence” that the perpetrator of that libel is a racist and a bigot.

                      In the same way, of course, there is no absolute evidence that Paul Holmes is a racist, in spite of all his on-air rants against Maori, “darkies” and Ay-rabs. He tearfully insisted that he was “a good man”, so no doubt that lets him off the hook, just like Baron Cohen is off the hook.

                    • Colonial Weka

                      “They detail”

                      No, they don’t. One of them lends some support to your opinion, one of them is next to useless at telling us anything. I outlined that here –

                      http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-23122012/comment-page-1/#comment-566153

                      But your links don’t prove anything at all, and don’t come close to being evidence.

                      You do understand the difference between opinion and fact don’t you? (that’s a rhetorical question).

    • Colonial Weka 3.2

      That Telegraph link shows SBC to have made a colossal mistake that’s impacted very negatively on other people. Possibly that mistake is a result of him being a self-entitled, idiotic jerk. Can’t see anything about his politics and beliefs about race etc.

      • muzza 3.2.1

        So the repeated *mistakes* made in SBC’s movies are to be interpreted how Weka?

        • Colonial Weka 3.2.1.1

          No idea muzza, I don’t know anything about his movies. I was just replying to the stand alone example that Morrissey gave above.

          • Morrissey 3.2.1.1.1

            “Stand-alone example”?

            You’re not simply bewildered as I thought; you’re dishonest to boot.

            • Colonial Weka 3.2.1.1.1.1

              There’s only one example in that post. And it’s not presented with any context or explanation. I guess that’s the problem with cut and pasting.

              • Morrissey

                I provided examples of Baron Cohen’s right wing provocations masquerading as comedy yesterday and on Friday too. That article came from the hard right Daily Telegraph, and it provided plenty of context and background.

                How many examples do you need before you accept something is objectively a fact?

                • Te Reo Putake

                  No, you didn’t. You’ve provided opinions, not facts. You can’t back up your hate filled comments, Morrissey. And this despite you hassling another commenter last week for exactly the same failing. Hypocrite much?

                  Just for context, Morrissey’s unproven (and contradictory) statements include:

                  “That guy’s not funny. He’s even unfunnier when you look at his actual (not “satirical” or “ironic”) support for the mass murder perpetrated by his favorite real-life regime.”

                  “I did think he was funny until I realized how hardline and shameless he is in real life. He actually IS Borat, with all of Borat’s brutal anti-Semitism and callous disregard for others.”

                  “However, it is not conspiratorial or paranoid to see that Sacha Baron Cohen is a brutal and unapologetic supporter of Israel, and a ruthless defamer of the Holy State’s victims.”

                  You’re a gutless wonder, Moz. Put up or shut up.

                  • Morrissey

                    When you’re in trouble, stop digging: not a lesson that’s been learned by our friend Te Reo Putake….

                    No, you didn’t. You’ve provided opinions, not facts. You can’t back up your hate filled comments, Morrissey. And this despite you hassling another commenter last week for exactly the same failing. Hypocrite much?

                    The hate is all on the part of Baron Cohen, activist comedian in service of the Israeli state. I have provided you with THREE articles detailing that politically inspired, ideological hatred in action, but you just keep throwing up your hands and denying the obvious.

                    Just for context, Morrissey’s unproven (and contradictory) statements include:

                    “That guy’s not funny. He’s even unfunnier when you look at his actual (not “satirical” or “ironic”) support for the mass murder perpetrated by his favorite real-life regime.”

                    “I did think he was funny until I realized how hardline and shameless he is in real life. He actually IS Borat, with all of Borat’s brutal anti-Semitism and callous disregard for others.”

                    “However, it is not conspiratorial or paranoid to see that Sacha Baron Cohen is a brutal and unapologetic supporter of Israel, and a ruthless defamer of the Holy State’s victims.”

                    Nothing I said there is “unproven”, unless you refuse to read the links or refuse to watch this…
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2GAwn7Xc0Q

                    Of course, worshippers of Baron Cohen will think it funny to watch the clip of the Christian activist’s bewilderment during the stunt, but even if they concede it’s funny, they must admit the dishonesty and the rancorous political motive for the fiasco.

                    By the way, You’re a gutless wonder, Moz. Put up or shut up.

                    I’ve put up three times in a row so far. Tomorrow I’ll post a transcript of the atrocity on the link above.

                    • Te Reo Putake

                      You’ve put up nothing, you racist tosser. You berate others for not being able to back up their positions, but you fail to live up to your own standards.

                    • copperhead

                      honestly guys, we have big problems in this country, who cares about sbc? he is a comedian, most get laughs by shocking people, sometimes they go too far, i notice you have not included billy t or mike king for being rascist, bill maher for showing no compassion for the muslim religion etc etc

                • Colonial Weka

                  Strange as it may seem Morrissey, I don’t actually read everything (or even most) of what you post here.

                  “How many examples do you need before you accept something is objectively a fact?”

                  One would be a good start.

                  • Morrissey

                    Strange as it may seem Morrissey, I don’t actually read everything (or even most) of what you post here.

                    I don’t believe you.

                    “How many examples do you need before you accept something is objectively a fact?”

                    One would be a good start.

                    I’ve given you three examples. But it’s quite clear that you’ve decided to follow the Te Reo Putake model of defiant ignorance. That’s not helpful for your credibility.

                    • Te Reo Putake

                      Morrissey. You’ve given three opinions, but no facts. You are unable to justify your comments. The only credibility under threat is your own and given your weird attacks in recent days on feminism and literacy, you have bugger all left. Why don’t you just pack it in or show some dignity and apologise for your hyperbolic and incorrect position? Or are you just too immature to recognise how deep the hole you’ve dug really is?

                    • Colonial Weka

                      “I don’t believe you.”

                      ROFL. That’s so funny, it’s like you think that if you just assert something, then it’s true. And I think you said the same thing to someone else recently who said they don’t read everything you write.

                      “I’ve given you three examples”

                      My comments up until now have been based solely on the Telegraph link, which doesn’t support your assertion. However I’ve now gone and read the discussions from the past three days. I can see you asserted many many times, and that you eventually provided two links. One is an opinion piece analysing Cohen’s work in a political context.

                      The other is a short report about the response by Hollywood stars to a protest that happened three years ago at the Toronto film festival. It doesn’t describe what the protest is about, nor talk about Cohen’s politics or beliefs about race.

                      You may of course be right about Cohen, and it’s perfectly ok for you to form an opinion about him based on your reading. Just stop pretending it’s a fact. You might find that people are more willing to debate your opinion when it’s presented as opinion.

      • Morrissey 3.2.2

        Can’t see anything about his politics and beliefs about race etc.

        An English comedian goes into the Occupied Territories, interviews a Christian peace activist on the pretence he is genuinely seeking to engage in diaglogue, and then turns the ensuing fiasco into “comedy”, portraying the Christian peace activist as an Islamic terrorist.

        And you claim that you “can’t see anything about his politics and beliefs”.

        I don’t believe you are THAT dim.

        • Colonial Weka 3.2.2.1

          Actually I missed that that happened in the West Bank (I was thinking England). But see my reply to muzza – I was going simply off the link you provided, and don’t know anything else about the situation.

          In general I would have to say that the actions could be politically motivated, or they could be just fucking stupid. Not the first time a comedian has done something stupid, nor the first time for an Englishman abroad.

          But really, my comment was just pointing out that the stand alone argument didn’t work.

          • Morrissey 3.2.2.1.1

            In general I would have to say that the actions could be politically motivated, or they could be just fucking stupid.

            A comedian pretends to be a journalist and dishonestly and cynically obtains an interview with a Christian Palestinian peace activist, who assumes he is acting in good faith. The comedian then pretends that the victim of his stunt is an Islamic terrorist, and repeats the slander on David Letterman’s television show.

            And you really, seriously think that was merely “something stupid”?

            • Colonial Weka 3.2.2.1.1.1

              No, I’m saying you could have provided context that explained your point instead of just cut and pasting something that you think makes your argument really obvious but doesn’t.

              What I find interesting (still going off just the one Telegraph link) is that someone in his position would consider the dishonesty acceptable. I mean, what did he think was going to happen?

              There’s a whole lot of stuff getting out of hand. We live in an age where people have no sovereignty within themselves in relation to the celebrity world. They are fair game for whatever someone wants to do in terms of the internet, tv, publicity etc. The radio station prank calls is another example. There’s no respect for people having the right to be who they are and have control over that, they can just be used for the next piece of entertainment.

              • Morrissey

                What I find interesting (still going off just the one Telegraph link) is that someone in his position would consider the dishonesty acceptable.

                Baron Cohen was engaging in an exercise of black propaganda, i.e. telling lies, ridiculing and blackening the reputation of a representative of an ethnic group decreed to be an official enemy. And the man he humiliated was not the person he claimed he was. Dishonesty of the type and scale that Baron Cohen committed on the Letterman show is not just acceptable, it is the modus operandi.

                I mean, what did he think was going to happen?

                He did not care. He can wriggle away from anyone who remonstrates by calling it “humour” or “satire”.

    • AwakeWhileSleeping 3.3

      Who else wants to see SBC interview our only Sikh MP?

      • Morrissey 3.3.1

        There is no mileage in that. Sikhs are not a designated target group with the extreme right in Israel.

        Not yet, anyway.

    • Populuxe1 4.1

      Ok, good. We’ve established that you’re anti-Catholic as well as anti-Jew and anti-women. Go on, say something about Asians or brown people.

      • Morrissey 4.1.1

        That top-class analyst Populuxe1 has excelled himself with a sterling piece of analysis of this writer, i.e., moi. Let’s sit back and appreciate the workings of a top-class mind at the top of its form….

        Ok, good. We’ve established that you’re anti-Catholic

        Well, I’m certainly anti-Pope Benedict. I don’t think much of the Kennedy family of Massachusetts, either. Devout Catholics, every one of them. And I had zero respect for that Catholic fellow Ryan who was Mitt Romney’s running-mate. Ergo, I am anti-Catholic. Thanks for that, my friend. It’s like you’re a genius!

        …as well as anti-Jew…

        Oh, I see what you’re doing! You’re so clever! I speak out against Israeli crimes and a court clown who supports those crimes, and that means I’m “anti-Jew.” In the same way that speaking out against John Key, whose mother is a Jew, makes me anti-Jew. I don’t think much of Winston Peters, Tau Henare or Pita Sharples, either—therefore I am anti-Māori. I have criticised the corrupt Patsy Wong, which makes me anti-Chinese. I don’t like Robert Mugabe, which makes me anti-African. I’m very opposed to Barack Obama, which makes me anti-African American, I guess.

        …and anti-women.

        Yes, I guess it started when I realized what a nasty fascist ideologue that awful Margaret Thatcher was. She was a WOMAN! That makes me anti-women. And I despised Golda Meir—yikes, she was not only a woman, but Jewish, too, wasn’t she! Which damns me twice over!

        Go on, say something about Asians or brown people.

        Already covered that, my friend. Way ahead of you!

        • Rogue Trooper 4.1.1.1

          “there is a light, that never goes out”.

          -Salford Boys :)

          (did you know, every time i come to this I.C, there is the “correct” music playing? Thats the “power” of the internet) Go on c. and df, take me on… :)

          • Morrissey 4.1.1.1.1

            “there is a light, that never goes out”.

            I think poor old Populuxe1’s light has gone out.

  4. veutoviper 5

    Well, what is the Herald coming to?

    I usually don’t read either Kerre Woodham or Rodney Hide’s columns in the online opinion section, but did so this morning and just about fell off my chair!

    Firstly Hide’s column entitled ‘Note to Collins: We want to see justice being done’. A taste of the first and last paras – the meat is in the middle.

    Imagine the scene at police HQ and Crown Law: Justice Binnie has done the unthinkable; he’s written an independent report. Worse, he’s damned Crown Law and Police to hell.

    The Government response has been masterful … but hardly justice.

    …Justice Binnie – and the Privy Council – raise a disturbing question about whether our justice system has the ability to self-correct. The Government’s response, sadly for us, provides the answer, loud and clear.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10855740

    I never thought I would ever agree with anything Hide said or wrote – this must be the one exception that makes the rule.

    AND then Woodham’s column entitled “Nats run out of fuel” which covers more than just the increased fuel tax.

    In what should have been a lovely, relaxing wind-down to the year, I found myself getting wound up instead.

    Normally, talkback in the week before Christmas is full of callers ringing in with lovely stories of family get-togethers and their own personal Yuletide traditions, and we wish each other well for the holiday season. Nice, warm, fuzzy stuff.

    This year, however, the news of a fuel tax hike on the same day the Remuneration Authority announced a pay rise for MPs – backdated to July 1, what’s more – had us incensed.

    Well, I’m not. Why can’t he just concede that this politics lark is a darn sight more difficult than he thought it would be? National was voted in because they promised voters they had the answers. They’d be a breath of fresh air. They were business people who knew a thing or two about making money, not academics who’d spent most of their lives in ivory towers.

    Well, they may know how to make money for themselves but they don’t seem to have any answers when it comes to making the country richer.

    If, after four years of government, the best strategy they can come up with to produce a surplus is to raise the fuel tax, they are devoid of initiative and bereft of imagination.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10855729

    Never thought Woodham would get incensed at anything this NAT govt did.

    • LynWiper 5.1

      Ditto, and especially Rodney Hide’s column. Fortunately I was sitting up in bed doing my usual early morning read of opinions and news before starting the day, so no falling! I found both columns surprising, refreshing and encouraging!

      • KJT 5.1.1

        Occasionally I am pleasantly surprised by Rodney Hide.

        When he talks about police and democracy he often makes sense. Just keep him off economics, and social justice, please

        • veutoviper 5.1.1.1

          Agreed.

          I have just had another look at Hide’s column and the comments, the majority of which are supportive of Hide’s position.

          BUT what is really interesting is that after just 34 comments, debate has now been closed off. The first comment is timed at 11.08am and the last at 11.19am – ie comments were closed off after only 11 minutes! What gives?

          Re Woodham’s column, comments are now up to 142 and still coming which is amazing for two days out from Christmas day – and have not been closed off. In terms of Likes, the most liked comment is at 125.

          From a quick trawl through the comments, my perception is that there are a lot of different commenters compared to the usual regular Herald commenters – and many seem to be previous Nat voters who are ‘seeing the light’. Perhaps the worm is on the turn.

          Compared to the numbers of comments on Woodham’s article, yesterday’s Armstrong and O’Sullivan columns have only attracted 43 and 29 comments respectively.

          • Anne 5.1.1.1.1

            The first comment is timed at 11.08am and the last at 11.19am – ie comments were closed off after only 11 minutes! What gives?

            That is interesting. Who moderates the MSM online comments? An on duty sub-editor perhaps?

            What might have happened: someone with authority in the Nat. Party (umm, from the Justice Minister’s office or maybe the Justice Minister herself?) has been in touch with someone at the HoS and told them…

            What the hell do you think you’re up to. You’re supposed to be on our side. Stop the comments immediately or I will have your membership of the Back Scratchers Club indefinitely suspended.

            If it wasn’t for the continued commenting on Woodham’s column I’d say it was a lazy moderator sleeping off too much Xmas cheer.

  5. Dr Terry 6

    I have for long been a supporter of Matt McCarten for his column in the Sunday Herald. But more recently, I have become somewhat bewildered by some of the directions he is taking. Am I alone here, or do a few others think similarly? Frankly, Paul Little is rising in my estimation. And today, even Kerre Woodham provided the best column I have ever seen from her!

    Today Matt picks his TOP 10 politicians First there is Shane Jones (congratulated for being the only Labour MP “who smacks the Greens when they get too sanctimonious” Since when were the Greens sanctimonious?) Tony Ryall has been superb in the health portfolio. Fair comment on Hone Harawira. Judith Collins at no. 6, can you believe? (“Probably National’s scary next next leader” proclaims Matt.)
    Fair comment re. Phil Twyford. But who other than Paula Bennett is placed at no. 4!! “The darling of the masses”. The poor believe she’s “one of them” can you believe? Now where the hell does he get this from? Happily, Russel Norman comes in at no. 2 for he “actually understands economics” (yet he heads a “sanctimonious Party?) And who else is at no. 1,but Matt’s “politician of the year” , David Shearer, the leader who foiled the “covert campaign” of David Cunliffe (who was rightly dispatched to sit among the back benches). “It was a masterstroke to seek a unanimous vote for his leadership” Do I need to comment upon this?)

    Maybe I have got it all wrong, in which case I am ready to castigate myself. Nevertheless, I would like to know responses of other readers.

    • I read it too Dr Terry and I am still shaking my head.

      Shane Jones a pollie of the year for mucking up something that bad that he is an adverse Auditor General’s report from being toast? And his redeeming behaviour is abusing Labour’s only realistic coalition partner?

      I agreed about Ryall. He has neutered problems with Health, at least for now. I also agree about Hone.

      Twyford though? He has precious little to do with the reorganisation of Labour in Auckland. He has kept the Te Atatu seat electorate intact, thanks heavily to some very dedicated supporters but he has had very little to do with the rest of Auckland. Activists rather than MPs can be credited with the shape of Labour in Auckland.

      Collins, he has to be kidding. Paula, what is he smoking?

      Russell, fair enough.

      And Shearer? At a time when Labour in opposition is 10 points ahead of the tories in the United Kingdom and Labor in Australia has, according to some polls, gained the lead over the Coalition, Labour in NZ is still double digits behind National and leaking support elsewhere. And this is despite the Nats being in all sorts of turmoil.

      I feel like Matt and I exist in different realities.

      • muzza 6.1.1

        I feel like Matt and I exist in different realities.

        Morning MS –

        You certainly do, as do we all, those who are not in politics or the media are simply locked out of the *game* , which is played by those who are involved.

        Thats the feeling you have, think about it!

    • veutoviper 6.2

      As you will see from my comment @ 5 above, I am somewhat bewildered by some of the Herald columnists of late. (Another one was Toby Manhire’s column entitled “John Key a likeable dork” – but he got a pounding in the comments!)

      Just looking at the Herald’s “Top 10 politicians for 2012″ and this seems to be the HOS editorial – not Matt McCarten’s column. Haven’t read the article properly yet.

      http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10855714

      However, I have been bemused/disappointed by some of Matt’s more recent columns.

      • LynWiper 6.2.1

        Agree with all of the above comments. I also miss Matt’s columns of the past, although read the Top 10 Politicians as the HOS editorial and was similarly in disagreement with the choices.

    • alwyn 6.3

      Don’t take it so seriously. Matt is clearly just joking. If that wasn’t obvious earlier it should become glaringly obvious when he gets to number 2.
      Anyone who can read a comment like “The Greens co-leader is one of the few MPs in any party who actually understands economics” without bursting into laughter clearly has no sense of humour.
      Can anyone show me a genuine economist who agrees with Norman’s idea that we can solve our problems by printing money?

      • KJT 6.3.1

        That comment shows you have no comprehension of either economics, or history.

        A country lending to itself for employment and infrastructure “printing money” as economic ignoramuses like to call it is much more sensible than paying overseas banks through the nose to do the same thing.

        We did it in the 30’s. That is how New Zealand paid for much of the infrastructure we still use now, and got ourselves out of the depression before most other countries, I may add.

        The USA new deal was also “printing money”. Not to mention Germany “printing money” to change an inflationary path after WW2.

        It was also done later for housing corporation loans and the DFC.

        Even the conservative economists in the IMF recommended that NZ do so.

        Have a look at Icelands recent growth, they told the banks, and neo-liberal economists, to get stuffed, “printed money” and imposed exchange controls, (all the things the dogma insists we cannot do) compared to Ireland, still desperately trying to get out from under the huge price they are paying to the banks.

        http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/dan-white-the-economic-return-of-iceland-has-proved-that-the-joke-was-on-us-3327164.html

        “Remember when the Icelandics did the unthinkable and, unlike Ireland, told bank creditors to take a hike? They also imposed capital controls and allowed the value of their currency to fall – the Icelandic krona has lost almost half of its value against the euro over the past five years.

        The “experts” queued up to assure us that these latter-day Vikings would be severely punished for their impertinence. While no one forecast that a hole would open up in the North Atlantic and swallow Iceland whole, some of the predictions came pretty darned close.

        Meanwhile, we in Ireland did what we were told and repaid over €70bn of bank bonds at par. By doing so, even at the cost of bankrupting the State, the “experts” assured us that we would retain the confidence of the markets. Now, four years later, it is clear that, not for the first time, the “experts” have got it wrong. Catastrophically and utterly wrong.

        Since putting the taxpayer on the hook for the banks’ debts, the domestic economy has shrunk by almost a quarter in nominal or cash terms. And any real recovery is still a long way off. The documents along with this month’s Budget reveal that the Department of Finance is expecting Irish GNP, basically the domestic economy, to grow by 1.4 per cent in 2012 and 0.9 per cent next year. Other forecasters are taking a far more pessimistic view.

        Way out in the North Atlantic, things have turned out rather differently. Economic growth is expected to be 3.1 per cent this year and 2.2 per cent in 2013″”.

        • alwyn 6.3.1.1

          I read the article in The Independent that you referenced with some interest. Quite what it has to do with what Russel Norman is proposing is unclear.
          A few comments I would make are –
          Norman has claimed he wants to reduce the value of the NZ dollar. Iceland’s currency has dropped to half its value in five years. What would happen if we did that here? Most of NZ’s imports and exports are priced, in NZ, at world trade prices. Thus on these we would have inflation of 100% over five years or about 14% per annum. To keep overall inflation below that figure would require, in practice, that wages rise at a slower rate than goods prices. If this is what Norman wants he wants falling real wages.
          The Iceland Government refused, as I understand it, to take responsibility for the borrowing, by nominally Icelandic banks, from people outside Iceland which was then loaned to people outside Iceland. Can you tell me what money the NZ Government ever paid out in an equivalent situation? The only large payout was for money loaned to SCF, largely by New Zealnders and which was then “loaned” to other organisations in NZ. SCF should never have been included in the scheme in the first place. Perhaps Michael Cullen will someday explain why his Government did it.
          Russel Norman has proposed that the Reserve Bank hand over to the Government money which the NZ Government will then use to but overseas assets to replenish the Earthquake and War Damage Fund. This is to be free of interest.
          The Independent article however talks about the Iceland borrowing $1 billion at about 400 basis points over a US reference rate. This means that they are BORROWING from a foreign lender at quite a high interest rate. What resemblance does this have to Russel’s scheme.

          • KJT 6.3.1.1.1

            Iceland shows the B-s inherent in your support of “conventional” “economics”

          • bad12 6.3.1.1.2

            More National Party lies!!! South Canterbury Finance was not included in the Banking guarantee scheme by Cullen, it was with deliberation that English included South Canterbury Finance in the scheme despite Treasury advice not to do so,

            Russell Norman has never claimed that He want’s the New Zealand dollar devalued by 50%, which is just another lie on your part pathetically trying to smear Norman,

            For 2 billion dollars of printed cash per annum over 3 years the NZ dollar could be devalued by up to 15% with an inflation rate of less than 3%…

            • alwyn 6.3.1.1.2.1

              Ok. To your three points.

              The deposit guarantee was announced by Labour in their election campaign.
              Labour remained the Government until 19 Nov 2008 which was the day that John Key was sworn in as PM. Treasury announced that SCF was included in the scheme on the same day. I hardly think that English had time to make the decision do you. The decision was definitely made when Cullen was still Minister of Finance.

              I have not claimed that Russel Norman has said he wants to devalue the dollar by 50%. Norman has said he wants to develop the dollar but, when asked, he will never say what he thinks the “correct” exchange rate should be. KJT was quoting with approval a story about Iceland and implying that this is what we should do. I simply gave an opinion on what the Icelandic actions would mean here.

              Perhaps you have some refernce as to WHY you say that “2 billion dollars … less than 3%”.
              There must be something other than your unsupported word for this.

              • KJT

                I did not say that, Alwyn, I was giving an example of how divorced from reality your type of economic ideas, and NACT’s, really are.

                • alwyn

                  I don’t understand you reply. I was commenting on a post by Bad12. What is it you are talking about KJT.
                  I don’t see anything that I have claimed you said and I don’t understand what it is that you say is an example “divorced from reality’ that you think I am talking about.
                  Please note. If you have seen a rather fuller response it was because when I was writing it I thought that your comment, and the one I was responding to, were by the same person.
                  I deleted it when I realised that they were not.

          • Draco T Bastard 6.3.1.1.3

            Perhaps Michael Cullen will someday explain why his Government did it.

            It was this government that signed them back into the scheme after they were told that SCF were most likely breaching the conditions of the scheme. Can’t blame that on Cullen.

            • alwyn 6.3.1.1.3.1

              I have heard rumours that the reason their membership in the scheme was continured was that it was certain that if it had not happened SCF would have instantly gone bust and the losses would have been immediately fallen due. As much as anything it appears that the Government hoped that keeping going a bit longer might enable the business to be cleaned up without having the large losses realised. I don’t know whether this was really the case but it makes a certain sense. It was the original inclusion of SCF that was the real mistake and as I have noted in the Chronology above that can be blamed on the then Labour Government.

              • KJT

                It was continued because a large number of National supporters and funders, who, surprisingly, :-) invested after they knew it was going to fail, and be bailed out with interest, stood to lose their money.

                Actually this has a name, insider trading!

                • alwyn

                  To correct your story a little.
                  Lots of people invested because they saw it as an investment that paid a very high return and that was guaranteed by the Government so that there was very little risk of losing anything. Once it had been guaranteed by the Government it really didn’t matter how risky the company really was.
                  Neither you nor I have any idea who they were and whether the were National, Labour, Green or New Zealand First supporters. Given the published material a lot of the investors with the group probably voted NZF although I doubt if they really appreciated what was going on.
                  They did not KNOW that the company was going broke. They simply didn’t care. It’s not called Insider trading. It’s called moral hazard.

                  • Crimson Nile

                    Your analysis is naive in the extreme. The Government guarantee was deliberately set up so that private investors would take massive gains and the public massive losses.
                    Your assumption that the highly efficient network of high net worth individuals did not know about the faltering state of SCF and the opportunity to make a quick short term gain cannot be substantiated, given how closely knit the network of high networth individuals is.
                    Public money went to private individuals. The list of the top 20 beneficiaries needs to be published.

                    • alwyn

                      I don’t think you are actually to different in your views than I am.
                      I don’t think the scheme was really set up to transfer large amounts of public money into private hands. It was cobbled together in a hurry, and not fully thought out or publically considered for two reasons. The first was that once Australia had announced their scheme for bank deposits we had to or there would have been a massive outflow of funds to Australia. The second, and very unfortunate one, was that the Labour Party wanted to announce it as part of their election campaign launch and kept its components secret from the public, and the other parties. It was not properly planned and should never have included groups like SCF. For that we can fairly blame Labour.
                      It didn’t need anyone to KNOW that SCF was faltering and their collapse wasn’t a necessary to make a gain. It was only necessary that the return they were offering was essentially risk-free. It wasn’t SCF going broke that led to the return. A high return would have been achieved whatever happened to SCF.
                      As a final point you talk about “the highly efficient network” They aren’t really any more knowlegeable than anyone else. You only have to look at the people who invested with Bernie Madoff to see that. Ross Asset Management appears to be another.
                      The fact you say that the top 20 investors with SCF need to be published also indicates that you do not KNOW who the investors were.

                    • Crimson Nile

                      Nonsense Alwyn. Grnated, the scheme was ORIGINALLY set up in a rush yes. But they had over a year to reset its terms and conditions before resigning SCF up to it for the last time. English could have easily tightened up the conditions to limit the Crowns losses, in its final iteration. He didn’t.
                      So what you present is not an excuse, its not even a reason.
                      And we’re not talking about Bernie Maddoffs scheme are we, we’re talking about a well connected group of wealthy Canterbury, farming and National based insiders.
                      Time to publish the list of top beneficiaries from the Government’s bail out so that EVERYONE KNOWS.

                    • alwyn

                      A brief response to Crimson Nile’s 9.20am comment.
                      There is no reply showing so I hope that this ends up in the right place.
                      A very brief chronology.
                      The original inclusion of SCF in the DGS was announced on 19 Nov 2008.
                      It would apply until 12 October 2010.
                      The Receivers for SCF were appointed on 31 August 2010.
                      This is BEFORE the expiry date of the first guarantee scheme. It wouldn’t have mattered whether or not they were included in the extended scheme. The Crown would still have been liable.
                      As I suggested earlier if SCF had not been included in the extended scheme there would have been an IMMEDIATE attempt by depositors to withdraw all their funds which would have caused the group to fail immediately, so the Crown would have to have paid out then. As it was there were some stories that they were included in the extended scheme to try and get the company back into a stable state. That failed, and may have been wishful, thinking but it might have prevented the fall.
                      There was no way however to avoid the original committment of a guarantee.

                  • KJT

                    Of course they knew it was going broke.

                  • KJT

                    You are in a bit of a rush to assume I do not know who at least some of them were.

                    People rather closely connected to National and ACT.

                    I was even told by one what was going to happen, and that I would be silly not to get in on a sure thing.

                    They didn’t seem to see anything wrong with rorting the tax payers, though the same person has a different view on “bloody bennies”.

                    Accusing them directly of insider trading, a criminal act, by name, is not something we can do on a blog though.

                    • alwyn

                      I totally fail to see how one can gain by the company collapsing, as opposed to getting ones capital and interest returned from a successful business.
                      I am quite prepared to accept that someone would say that one might as well take 10% (or whatever it was) from SCF with the investment being Guaranteed by the State as opposed to getting 4% (or whatever) from a trading bank with the same security.
                      Naturally one would, if interested in a maximum return, take the higher rate at the same level of risk.
                      How the fact that the company was expected to collapse made it better than it being successful is nonsensical.

      • bad12 6.3.2

        The United States, Britain, and Japan, just to name a few country’s are chock full of economists who agree with ‘printing money’,

        Barak Obama President elect having taken advice from economists and while ‘inflation’ is at basement level will, in His own words print money monthly until unemployment falls,

        As of last week the newly elected Prime Minister in Japan has indicated the same thing,

        At the point of the New Zealand general election in 2008 the interim report to the incoming National Government from the IMF was that the Government of New Zealand should seriously consider ‘printing money’ as a tool to stabilize the economy,

        While employment continues to flee off-shore to the Asian and Indian economy’s it is unsustainable for the Slippery National Government and it’s village idiot Finance Minister to continue to borrow 300 million dollars a week which has lead in 4 years to a growing debt mountain that will soon rival that of Greece, Ireland, or Italy, that has produced not an iota of ‘growth’ in the New Zealand economy,

        Imposing further petrol taxes in order to ‘balance the books’ is in fact futile as this will simply lead to a direct transfer of ‘disposable income’ to the Government leading to less transiting the local economy and even more recessionary pressure within that economy,

        In effect robbing Peter to pay Paul will simply lead to the point where Peter must again be robbed,

        Perhaps a genius of your stature has the answer to the current ‘depression’ occurring within the New Zealand economy, so instead of bagging The Greens Russell Norman over His support for ‘printing money’ you should have the testicular fortitude and the intellectual rigor to, while you criticize, offer an economic solution yourself…

      • Draco T Bastard 6.3.3

        Can anyone show me a genuine economist who agrees with Norman’s idea that we can solve our problems by printing money?

        I’ve got a better question or two: Can you show me a genuine economist that actually knows what an economy is? and Can you show me one that actually knows what the purpose of the economy is?

        Listening to the “economists” is what got us into the problems that we have. This does tend to indicate that they have NFI WTF they’re talking about.

      • RedLogix 6.3.4

        Can anyone show me a genuine economist who agrees with Norman’s idea that we can solve our problems by printing money?

        Tell us alwyn … where exactly do you think money comes from?

        • Rogue Trooper 6.3.4.1

          Amen brother; we are in the House. :)

        • alwyn 6.3.4.2

          I really can’t be bothered giving you lessons in elementary economics.
          If you really want to know why don’t you visit your local library and borrow a book on the subject.
          Even a very elementary, ie High School level, one will explain it to you.

          • Draco T Bastard 6.3.4.2.1

            Translation: alwyn doesn’t have friggen clue where money comes from.

          • RedLogix 6.3.4.2.2

            @alwyn,

            Fundamentally we use money for two related but distinct purposes:

            1. A medium of exchange

            2. A store of value.

            Note carefully that the first of these purposes is essentially de-coupled from time. In this sense we are mostly using money as a convenient way to avoid the complications and inefficiencies of barter. When we are thinking about money like this we really don’t care how much money is in circulation; just as long as it continues to circulate we don’t really care if a load of bread costs one cent or a million dollars … as long as incomes match.

            The second purpose however is fundamentally different. We want one unit of currency to be able to buy what today what it did yesterday … or ten years ago. Now suddenly the time value of money is important. This is critical when debt (or savings) come into the picture.

            Those people who think of money purely in it’s ‘store of value’ aspect have a great deal of trouble getting their heads around the fact that money in itself has absolutely zero worth in itself.

            Which is why so many people struggle with the concept of what money really is in the modern economy. The actual amount of coins and notes in circulation (M0) is typically around 1% of GDP. In this country it’s about $3b while GDP is in the order of $200b.

            The vast majority of money (M3) is pure credit money. It was effectively ‘printed’ by the banking system. Now of course the retail banks in this country are very low in the feeding chain; they don’t get to create the credit … they have to borrow it from much bigger and more powerful fish in the pond overseas.

            This is the hard part for most people used to the idea that money has to represent something ‘real’. It doesn’t. What we really have is a pure credit system. All the ‘money’ we use is nothing more than electronic blips which amount to nothing more than a ‘promise to pay’.

            If everyone went to their bank tommorrow and demanded cash out on their accounts, AND everyone attempted to pay back ALL their debts … the amount of cash available would fall short by many orders of magnitude. Credit money is not real; it’s nothing more than a vast system of bookeeping.

            Of course interest is charged on all this credit money that is created by the private banking system. This is how they exploit their privileged position to become such a large portion of the US and UK economies; why the very largest banks simply become “too big to fail”. They’ve become a tumour too large and advanced to surgically remove without also killing the patient.

            Which of course demands the obvious question; how did the private banks get to have a monopoly on credit creation? And if it’s a good thing for banks to create it, why is it such a bad thing for governments to do so?

            • Colonial Weka 6.3.4.2.2.1

              Great explanation, thanks.

              So when Norman talks about printing money, he’s talking about the govt creating credit (rather than coins and notes)? How does the govt do that?

              • Draco T Bastard

                How does the govt do that?

                By typing numbers into the computer at the Reserve Bank.

                here’s the important bit though: That money means absolutely nothing until the government actually spends it into the economy. At that point it means something because it then starts moving the nations resources about in ways that the society needs.

              • bad12

                And after having created the credit, a debt it owes it’s self the Government at any time can simply forgive that debt,

                It’s a chicken and egg story of what comes first, money or production, capitalists will tell you that production must be expanded befor there can be an expansion in the supply of money,

                That of course is one of the major lies of the ism, monetary expansion can be used to create an asset(production) to the value of the monies printed and the debt owed by Government to it’s self is then negated by the value of the asset owned by the Government…

            • alwyn 6.3.4.2.2.2

              That is quite good actually. One normally includes money as being a unit of account but you probably don’t need it here.
              On the other hand why did you feel you need me to explain it for you?

      • Dr Terry 6.3.5

        alwyn – I think you might be the “joker” somehow! Don’t you know that numbers of other countries have printed, and are printing money? Norman will have no problem finding economic supporters. But then, to you, just everything is a big laugh, eh? (Even the ultra-serious McCarten (I know him well) does not joke around).

    • Morrissey 6.4

      And today, even Kerre Woodham provided the best column I have ever seen from her!

      Considering Kerre Woodham’s Herald on Sunday column has included the condemnation of a mother for showing too much grief at her murdered son’s funeral and the denunciation of rape victims as “slags” and “tarts”, that’s not saying a lot.

      • QoTViper 6.4.1

        the denunciation of rape victims as “slags” and “tarts”, that’s not saying a lot.

        *snort* Oh wait, I suppose you vetted their stories and determined they were real rape victims (big points in their favour: not accusing Julian Assange of rape), so carry on.

        • Morrissey 6.4.1.1

          Poor old QoVTripe has tried, unwisely, to be clever….

          *snort*

          Cocaine? That explains it, I guess.

          Oh wait, I suppose you vetted their stories and determined they were real rape victims (big points in their favour: not accusing Julian Assange of rape), so carry on.

          Even if you had the ability to write that elegantly and stylishly, it would still be nonsense.

          • QoTViper 6.4.1.1.1

            Awwwwww, poor diddums. Did the mean feminist point out your blatant hypocrisy? What a meanie, you should totally make a joke about her being a drug user, that’ll put her in her place.

            • Morrissey 6.4.1.1.1.1

              Awwwwww, poor diddums.

              My friend, you’re not clever enough to do this sort of thing.

              Go and read a book, there’s a good fellow.

              • QoTViper

                Oh shit. You haven’t even noticed I’m not a dude. That’s so not a good look for someone who suddenly pretends to care about rape victims.

                • Morrissey

                  A dull writer is a dull writer. Gender doesn’t really come into it. Thanks for the heads-up, though.

                  • QoTViper

                    I know you think you’re being really cutting, but referring to me as “dull” is the funniest thing you’ve ever written.

                    • Morrissey

                      No it’s not. Not even when you try to bolster yourself by pretending it’s all ironic.

                      You deliberately slandered me; I am not slandering you.

                      [RL: OK have you two had your fun? Flamewars are never a good look.]

                    • KJT

                      QOT.

                      Profane, pedantic about words, (I would say ballsy, but then she would have mine) up-setter of sacred cows and challenger of the establishment and a bit too inclined to bite those on her own side.

                      But dull,

                      never!

                    • QoTViper

                      Naughty KJT! Why use ballsy when gutsy, stroppy, take-no-prisoners and in-your-face are available? :P

    • JK 6.5

      “David Shearer, the leader who foiled the “covert campaign” of David Cunliffe (who was rightly dispatched to sit among the back benches). “It was a masterstroke to seek a unanimous vote for his leadership” Do I need to comment upon this?)

      When Matt first started writing in favour of Shearer, I thought “someone has got to him” and I still think that. He’s been persuaded by one of his former union mates who is still in Labour that Shearer et al are going down the “right” track for Labour and somehow, for some reason, Matt is not seeing straight. So yes Dr Terry his recent columns are bewildering – are they worth reading ?

      • Anne 6.5.1

        Yes, McCarten has been in receipt of a load of hogwash – but well presented hogwash and he’s fallen for it hook, line and sinker. There’s quite a few of them. Mike Williams is another…

        You see, they’re very busy people and they lead very busy lives rushing from one well paid MSM political celebrity slot to another – be it on TV, radio or an opinion column in a newspaper. They have their political contacts – most likely people who have assisted them in their lucrative careers as opinion leaders – and they rely on them to provide a plausible story for their column inches.

        They all belong to the Back Scratchers Club. (Well, that’s my word for it but in my view it’s appropriate). They don’t pay subs etc. but it’s an exclusive club and anyone who dares challenge them is turned into a pariah. I am expecting notification of my ‘pariah’ status in the Labour Party any day now. (joke)

  6. freedom 7

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/8113718/937k-top-up-for-failing-teachers-pay-firm

    now it’s only a $29 million system ??? wtf, it was $30 million last week, wow at this rate it’ll be free by the time they actually sort it out

    If the Ministry expects to pay $100 million over the next eight years that is 12.5 mil a year.
    Was the previous system, that actually seemed to work, really costing 12.5 million a year??
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/7979570/Novapay-firm-blames-teething-issues

    • Dv 7.1

      No, Novapay is NOT paying, it is the moe, and the schools.
      AND it appears that the data is from the last update available on Nov 11.

      • freedom 7.1.1

        “No, Novapay is NOT paying” ? what are you referring to?

        and the second link was there for reference to the stated 100 m figure and is clearly dated at the top of the article

        • Northshoreguynz 7.1.1.1

          FFS schools pay their staff out of their grant. So what do you think happens when Novopay fucks up? The schools just ask the MOE for more? Yeah right.

        • Dv 7.1.1.2

          Freedom

          I interpreted your comment to mean the novapay was covering the short fall. The schools covered $562,000 and the ministry $376,000

          The most up-to-date data available is from November 11.

          Both these are from the first reference.

          • freedom 7.1.1.2.1

            people misinterpret stuff all the time,
            ( referring mainly to journos and the Speaker of the House)
            but the 2 points of my comment were quite straightforward

            1: why is the reported price tag getting smaller??? it has been 30 mil since first talked about publicly, the amount of who is covering what amount of which shortfall/error each round does not change the fact it was a 30 mil project now being reported as being 29 mil.

            2: Was the previous system really costing 12.5 million a year??

    • NoseViper (The Nose knows) 7.2

      When the police tried to get a magic computer system that did everything and fell into the INCIS black hole, the Police Commissioner gave up his post and was moved sideways into Helen Clark’s administration. I can’t remember that it was allowed to balloon out over decades.

    • KJT 7.3

      How much would the school secretary with an excel spreadsheet cost? again!

  7. muzza 8

    *Celebs* against gun violence

    I’m sure I won’t have to point out the naked hypocracry here, in that the names in the article who are paid by the establishments entertainment propaganda, brainwashing machine, are those same people who peddle violence, S&M, B&D, verbal and physical abuse, murder and so on, as *artists*

    More lies, more spin, more Hollywood stories being made up on cue, to fool and ever limited in thinking capacity public!

    These people are professional actors, they know whats going on, and they are lying opening about it!

    Lifting the lid on Hollywood!

    • Colonial Weka 8.1

      “Approximately 50 high profile celebrities including Diva singer Beyonce, Selena Gomez, We’re The Millers star Jennifer Aniston, Michelle Williams, Steve Carell, Reese Witherspoon, Jennifer Garner, Gwyneth Paltrow, Cameron Diaz, Mad Men star Jon Hamm, comedian Will Ferrell and Jason Bateman have joined forces in the powerful public service announcement demanding a plan to end gun related atrocities”

      Hardly a rollcall of actors who make violent films ;-)

      The problem is that violence per se in a film isn’t the issue, it’s how it’s portrayed.

      • muzza 8.1.1

        The problem is that violence per se in a film isn’t the issue, it’s how it’s portrayed.

        Weka, its nothing to do with how the violence is portrayed, sheesh, that reads as if you think violence is acceptable, as long as it is *portrayed*, in some *acceptable fashion*???

        Its more to do with how the violence is interpreted, and digested by the viewer Weka, and follows what happens in an individuals perception balance, of what is acceptable and what is not.

        Hollywood can take a very large % of the wrap for where society finds itself, and the continual lowering of the standards , read:, making unacceptable behaviour, acceptable through the medium of *entertainment* is one of the primary causes!

        • Colonial Weka 8.1.1.1

          Do you mean that a film maker can make a violent film however they want and the responsibility is with the viewer and they interpret and digest that?

          For me it’s nothing to do with violence being acceptable, but the responsibility that goes with having influence. If someone has the capacity to make a blockbuster film, then there is a responsibility that goes with that around what messages the film sends.

          • Populuxe1 8.1.1.1.1

            Nonsense. Clockwork Orange is an incredibly violent film, but it’s also full of artistic merit and social message

            • Colonial Weka 8.1.1.1.1.1

              So you think there should be no censorship of any kind, nor film classifications and film makers should just do what they want?

              (I’m not debating the merits or otherwise of Clockwork Orange btw, I just think you have misunderstood my point).

              • Populuxe1

                Film classifications are fine – I don’t particularly want young children watching Caligula, but on the whole I’m not in favour of censorship without good reason. Obviously there are limits – child pron and snuff films etc, but otherwise no to censorship.

                • RedLogix

                  If it was just Kubrik and Tarantino I’d have less of a problem. But that’s not it … too much of our ‘entertainment’ is saturated in violence. I just read this piece an hour ago.

                  But when we looked into the impact of violence in the media, we were shocked at what we found. We, like many people we know, and perhaps you reading this, had a series of wrong-headed notions about the nature of the problem. We found that the issue has been studied for well over 40 years, and has been the subject of over 1,000 studies — including reports from the Surgeon General’s office in 1972, and the National Institute of Mental Health. The studies “point overwhelmingly to a causal connection between media violence and aggressive behavior in some children,” according to the American Academy of Pediatrics.

                  We were especially surprised to learn that researchers, as summarized by the French Canadian media activist and researcher Jacques Brodeur, claim to have proven that “the effect of media violence is bigger than the effect of exposure to lead on children’s brain activity, bigger than the effect of calcium intake on bone mass, bigger than the effect of homework on academic achievement, bigger than the effect of asbestos exposure on cancer, bigger than the effect of exposure to secondhand smoke on lung cancer.”

                  It always struck me as bizzare how the act of making life was deemed basely pornographic while the act of destroying it was deemed fine entertainment.

  8. muzza 9

    Original Bain Lawyer passes comment

    David Bain’s first defence lawyer – the man who fronted in court when his client was convicted of the 1994 murders of his parents, brother and two sisters – says a compensation report from a Canadian judge does contain errors, but still thinks he deserves a payout

    But hang on a minute

    Speaking to the newspaper yesterday, Guest, struck off for professional misconduct in 2001 for lying to a client and taking $25,000 more in costs than he was entitled to,

    Struck off for misconduct read, theft/lying, and still being asked for comment, geez we are in a fucked up mess in NZ!

  9. beatie 10

    The MSD welfare ‘reforms’ are closely following the British model. Here’s a taste of whats to come with next year’s move to a ‘universal’ benefit.

    http://johnnyvoid.wordpress.com/2012/12/22/jims-christmas/

    • bad12 10.2

      Jim’s story with a small tweak or two could be my own, obviously the trashing of our welfare system isn’t as advanced as that of the English and having managed to kick 2 of my 3 addictions and found a way to negate the costs of the 3rd i am managing,

      Should ‘time limits’ and such other BS become the norm here i will most definitely not be resorting to Jim’s solution, if anyone is to in the end pay an ultimate price for the impoverishment and humiliation that goes with the territory it will as far as i am concerned have to be those who impose such on people…

  10. felixviper 11

    This is over a year old, but it’s also a hilarious refutation of exactly the sort of fallacy that gets raised here anytime the status quo is questioned.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WvAkhW-XNI

  11. muzza 12

    Paedophile escapes jail because of health

    A judge today sentenced a repeat paedophile to home detention, rather than jail, because the former Salvation Army volunteer is sick with smoking-related emphysema.

    Trevor Hall had admitted four charges of indecent assault and had previously been jailed for similar offences in Australia.

    The 60-year-old is a heavy smoker with emphysema, who claims his health has worsened since being charged with molesting a seven-year-old girl.

    And today, despite advice that Hall could be cared for in jail, the judge sent him home.

    “The point is your medical circumstances would make a sentence of imprisonment disproportionately severe to you and therefore out of kilter,” says Judge Peter Rollo of Tauranga District Court.

    As Hall was sentenced to 12 months home detention, a $2000 fine and $30 a week in reparation, one man screamed at the judge from the public gallery, “Was it okay to sexually assault children?” and was escorted outside.

    Protecting NZ’ s paedos, one Judge at a time….Why on earth would judges continue protect these types…/rhetorical!

    • muzza 12.1

      Bail for former Catholic brother facing 252 child sex charges

      Bernard Kevin McGrath, a former St John of God brother appeared in Christchurch District Court today over a warrant to extradite him to Australia to face charges laid in Newcastle in June.

      He was jailed for five years in 2006 for sexually abusing boys at Marylands School in Christchurch in the 1970s and paroled in 2008.

      McGrath, 65, is alleged to have repeatedly raped, molested and abused dozens of young boys at church-run institutions in the Newcastle-Maitland diocese during the late 1970s and 1980s.

      Yeah, kids in this country are well looked after….

      He was bailed on strict conditions, including a ban on contact on children aged under 16 and from coming within 100 metres of a school, despite opposition from the Crown

      Oh, thats ok then, he has been told to stay away from children, and schools, wonder how thats worked out for his victims previously!

      Glad theese judges are protecting the Children as well as they do in the family courts!

  12. Morrissey 13

    NEWS FROM THE POLITICAL FRINGE
    Larry “Lackwit” Williams is the BEST POLITICAL JOURNALIST in N.Z.

    No, that was not a joke, it’s the result of the latest scientific poll over at Cameron Slater’s blog. Either there are a lot of very st000-pid people posting there, or a lot of guys and gals with a WICKED sense of humour….

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2012/12/whaleoil-awards-best-political-journalist/

  13. bad12 14

    Betcha NZFirst’s Winston Peters has a good Christmas, having dispatched Mr ‘overly-ambitious’ Brendan Horan to Siberia as an independent Winston will be patting Himself on the back for a job well done,

    What i, and possibly Winston, ‘saw’ in the recently disposed of Mr ‘overly ambitious’ Brendon was another future bad buzz for NZFirst in the vein of ‘the tight 5′ who quit NZFirst to help prop up a previous National Government,

    We have to take it upon ‘face value’ as to the reasons that Winston disposed of Horan but who would have any confidence in a politician who could turn on and off an obviously fake smile faster than even Slippery the Prime Minister can,

    I have the sneaky ‘feeling’ that the number of calls made to the TAB Winston got to view via the Horan phone record was not the only series of phone calls that lead Winston to be rid of Horan,

    Was there not also a series of phone calls made from that phone between Horan and a as yet un-named National back-bench MP tasked by the Party hierarchy to ‘get close’ to the now disposed of MP…

  14. Rogue Trooper 15

    testing :)

  15. I would like to ask our Standard readers their view of nationalizing the Casinos.? Is this a vote winner for a left wing government like the next Labour led Green government/. My personal view is that it would be a good source of revenue for a government that wants to have a decent future for all society. .

    • Crimson Nile 16.1

      “I would like to ask our Standard readers their view of nationalizing the Casinos.? Is this a vote winner for a left wing government like the next Labour led Green government/.”

      The irony would be that casinos make most of their money from the working class who cannot afford to gamble. So sure, this would be fitting.

      Perhaps we’d be better off to nationalise Telecom and Contact Energy, just as two suggestions. Then run them as not for profits, giving the economic benefit of state ownership back to the people of New Zealand.

    • BillODrees 16.2

      We already have “bullshit community trusts” taking money from the poor and under-educated via slot machines and transferring that money to middle class rugby and racing communities.

      We need less gambling in this country.

  16. Rogue Trooper 17

    just gonna have a leak, and i shall share my thoughts, yet, while I think of it, before I put some Cat on the ol’ walkman, do you really want me to travel to ak, down a litre of Dewars and visit you c.
    Is that want you really want? I know you… and (obviously) you, along with 100’s of people in HB know me (witnessed at the Reformed congregation this am; long “chat” with the incumbent shepherd, appears we have the same teleological journey). Do you really want to take me on c.?; I master fear early in the morning, from time to time; lift the Rock, and there is the slater. :)
    (yes, you and df have taken on the Wrong Man; power grows, if you do not abuse it, just like plants)

    -autobiographical memory brother ( brother is 81).mmmm…smell that fear. (it’s only 81 and the dogs, with a little Confuscian backing). well, while i take a leak, i shall hug my Dog brothers for the third time this afternoon.

    -servant

  17. Rogue Trooper 18

    testing; back from tending to the leeks :)

  18. Rogue Trooper 19

    well, Pop, you have certainly grown, along with The Standard; (Joe. S? well obviously I know his work well) :). anyway, climate change IS real; foolishness to deny it; speaking as a fool. Have you been snooping on my “stored” library ad?;i certainly do not have Amnesia, well, i traded in my copy, and as fore Vargas Llosa and Salman?; passing on fiction at the moment; adhere myself to The Monk Downstairs when the Spirit is willing. ;) ; whatta ya wont to do? place me under “house observation” like our wise Chinese Taoist friend? (just tryin’ to stay outa jail; nz Aotearoa does not require a Dog Day Afternoon as we have just witnessed in Amerika;sic.) AS I wrote earlier this year, however, despite the “massaged” statistics, the “outsiders” are gonna outbreed the law in the west.(i fought the Law and…i won; thanks North :))

    -caesure (when one has nothing, one has nothing to lose; interesting, i do Bear the responsibility for the Big Red seed that was sown with my brother, yet there is always the Joker and the “bow” to play out) Play on. :)

    (apologies for forgetting you Red, and our excellent disciple muzz in recent eulogy)

    however, I had been recently “sucked” back into nicotine by “eve ” nonetheless, passed on now, Thanks be to our Lord.the “boids” have faded away, now it is just the “anasthetic” to be abandoned; one day at a time; This Too, Will Pass.

    -God Bless The Standard. (you are doing Excellent work karol and Bill)

  19. Rhinoviper 20

    Watched… accidentally… a few minutes of OneNews before turning off in disgust. First item seen: a report on how people pressured to buy presents were falling behind in paying for rent and food, cooed over by sanctimonious reporters and newsreaders – and then an immediate cut to what was no more than an advertisement for more consumer crap that is the must-buy present this year. More expressions of emotion from the reporters and presenter-bots, this time enthused.

    Oh well, just another reminder why I don’t bother with the MSM. I suppose I need those from time to time.

  20. freedom 21

    Sad news form the USA
    The NDAA has passed, so now you can be put in jail for discussing the US constitution

    how? well you can be (and people have been) put on terrorist watchlists for quoting/referring to the US Constitution, especially when referencing the right to free speech and public assembly

    it is a very short walk from that to using the NDAA to imprison those that believe in the founding document of Obomber’s America, the Constitution of the United States

    now, Obomber has a veto, but will the guy who signed the first draft into law really change tack?

    We are talking about a dude who gifted F-16 fighters, the same week he got a Noble Peace Prize

  21. AC 22

    Performance Pay for politicians is needed. The performance of many of our MPs has been disgusting this year. How could we go about this? We may be able to do this by pulling names from a ballot each year- like jury service. These chosen few get to decide how much each MP deserves. Crazy as it sounds, this is what this government wants to do to teachers (Judged by the Principal or BOT). Politicians need to lead by example. How many lies an MP makes during their term would be a good criteria to start from. The world’s economic problems should not be an excuse for the NZ unemployment rate, as poverty should not be an excuse for children failing in our school system. Speaking of our education system- we have a top shelf education system and I am concerned that this government is going to change something world class into something at a 3rd World standard. Our children were performing much better under the previous government and the curriculum was more balanced catering for the strengths of individual children. Our children deserve the best and I believe this government does not have the same view of our children.

  22. muzza 23

    Given the *Thick Blue Line* and piss poor record of solving crimes, let alone *homicides* in this particular part of NZ.

    Some of the articles have some glaring overlaps, poor reporting, call it what you will. It also strikes that Detective Senior Sergeant John Rae (who plays many roles in Canterbury policing), appears to have been caught out by the *efficiency* of the investigation “It came really unexpectedly,” Detective Senior Sergeant John Rae said.”

    The following links, in approximate order of publication, based on time/date stamps only.

    1 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10854323

    2 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10854546

    3 http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/porirua/8088676/Mischievous-loving-mother-dead-in-doorway

    4 http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8087424/Young-mum-dead-Possible-weapon-found

    5 http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8094470/Sina-Solomona-murder-Bloody-handprint-discovered

    6 http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10855162

    7 http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/auckland/news/nbnat/488757004-youth-charged-with-murder-of-sina-solomona

    8 http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8101705/Arrest-in-Sina-Solomona-murder

    9 http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/8106863/Relief-over-murder-arrest-in-Ashburton

    • McFliper 23.1

      What’s your point?

      • Colonial Weka 23.1.1

        I was wondering that too.

        Also why Stuff used the word ‘boy’ to describe the person arrested. Does that mean a pre-teen?

        • muzza 23.1.1.1

          19 December 7.49pm

          Sense of Urgency

          Police are reinterviewing some of the people they spoke to in the early stages of their inquiry into the murder of Ashburton woman Sina Solomona.

          Detective Senior Sergeant John Rae said police still believed it was likely the suspect would be among the 25 to 30 people they had already spoken to, however they had an open mind and were seeking as much information from the public as possible.

          “We still have an open mind, it could be someone out there we don’t know anything about yet.”

          Police were no closer to making an arrest and there was no list of suspects at this stage.

          That is truly awful writing – Reinterviewing, police believe likely suspect will be among those already spoken to, but yet no list of suspects ???

          20 December 10.54 – (Updated)

          Arrest Made

          A male youth has been arrested and charged with the murder of Ashburton mother Sina Solomona.

          “It came really unexpectedly,” Detective Senior Sergeant John Rae said.

          The youth appeared at the Christchurch Youth Court this morning. (Thursday)

          Rae said it was “certainly” good to have an arrest and it had given investigators a clear definition of where they were going in the investigation, which was still continuing.

          There was also no evidence of a fight or scuffle, and there was no sign of any defensive wounds to Solomona’s hands and arms.

          So within what would be a matter of hours in reality, a few more in the reporting timeline, police were no closer to an arrest, nor a list of suspects, 19/12 Herald – to a youth arrested charged with murder and remanded following a court appearance 20/12 Stuff, and no evidence of a fight or scuffle, or defensive wounds.

          Sergeant John Rae has gone from believing the suspect (not that there was a list of any) would come from those spoken to already, 19/12 Herald, to “it came really unexpectedly” 20/12 Stuff.

          Now perhaps the police did not want to let on they were within hours of making an arrest, which could explain some of these statements and reporting, possibly…

          21 December 0500 (pre written 20/12 or earlier)

          Relief

          Ashburton residents are relieved at news of an arrest for the murder of Sina Solomona, saying they did not want “another Kirsty Bentley” case.

          A boy appeared in the Youth Court yesterday charged with Solomona’s murder after being interviewed by police on Wednesday. He was remanded in custody to reappear on January 14.

          Solomona was killed in her Cass St home between 2.20am and 2.40am on Saturday. The 22-year-old mother suffered blunt trauma and blade injuries to her head, face and throat.

          A boy/youth, blunt trauma, blade injuries to face a throat, but yet no sign of “a fight or scuffle or defensive wounds.. So we have to believe that either, she has hit from behind, then her face and throat were cut, or that she was hit from the front, and did not defend herself

          Remembering that a “possible weapon” had already been found 17/12 Stuff

          Police investigating the death of Ashburton woman Sina Nerisa Solomona say they have recovered a possible weapon from the scene.

          Detective Senior Sergeant John Rae would not be drawn on what the possible weapon was, other than to say some “items of interest” had been obtained by police.

          Rae said the items would be shown to family members to determine whether they were from the house or “introduced”.

          “There are possibilities that we have a weapon, but we can’t guarantee it,” he said.

          “After the post-mortem, we will have an indication if the items we’ve got were used in the attack.”

          Terribly confused reporting, and so much of it compared to many other homicides read about. Alongside that there are some rather strange/mixed comments by Sergeant John Rae (could be the poor reporting, although they are quotes)

      • marty mars 23.1.2

        Yes, why are you linking to that case again?

        You got a quota or something muzza?

        • marty mars 23.1.2.1

          So muzza do you stand by your statement made when you first alluded to the msm report of this terrible story where you said “Reads like a *clean up* job is being done!” ? Is that how it ‘reads’ muzza or just what you wish. Heart is not that hard to come by you know.

          http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-16122012/comment-page-1/#comment-563498

          • muzza 23.1.2.1.1

            Hi Marty..

            Yes I stand by it, and yes it is a terrible incident, just like every other rape, murder or act of violence/abuse which this country produces!

            The original article certainly read like a *clean up job*, and the reporting of it still reads like incompetance, along with the quotes from John Rae!

            Why so hostile Marty, your attempts to read through my posts is failing you, talk of my wishing for ???, and lack of heart etc, ive touched a nerve with you somewhere.

            Having read the articles and my comments/observations, perhaps you have somethig more detailed to add Marty?

            TRP/McFlock – They’re observations, read the links and make your own, instead of just asking what the point is!

            • marty mars 23.1.2.1.1.1

              Not really muzza I just have something inside that reacts to injustice and exploitation. When an innocent person or community is used by someone else for their own ends and without consideration of the actual people involved it pisses me off, and it especially pisses me off when the person doing it pretends some sort of innocence or consideration when that is the opposite of what they are doing. Much of the stuff that you post has some merit but this type of post is rubbish mate, pure shit. Up your game for next year fella.

              and have a great festive season :)

              • muzza

                Hi Marty, so thats a resounding no from you to the addition of any useful/detailed commentary, and yes to what pisses you off personally, very good!

                Next time, feel free to comment on my querying of the articles, that would be a contribution.

                If you’re going to throw mud, at least have something constructive to say, not just fire back with your own prejudice and nothing else!

                Anyways…

                All the best to you too bro, have a enjoyable festive time, to you and yours.

                • still don’t get it eh muzza – never mind. Leave the innocent alone and we’ll get on fine.

                  • muzza

                    Marty you know what, if you feel I’m not getting your view, that’s down to your own perception of things, your bias if you will, but we are on the same page with the sentiment of leaving the innocent alone!

                    • cool mate we are good – anytime (I think that) you cross the line i’ll point it out as I have with this case, and you can do the same for me.

                      The ascension was great and amazingly the fifth dimension looks remarkably like Golden Bay – who’d have thunk it :)

            • McFliper 23.1.2.1.1.2

              Well, the points I draw from it seem to be:

              a) a tragic incident has occurred and has been investigated, with a young man going before the courts which will then seek out the truth of the matter; and

              b) you seem to have drawn some conclusion or opinion about (a) along the lines of something is untoward in the investigation; and

              c) you have just enough shame (or maybe just an awareness of the standards tolerated by some moderators) to stop short of explicitly stating your sick little theories in direct connection to the real pain and suffering the families of all involved are enduring this holiday season.

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    Transport has been one of the big dividing lines between the parties in this election. How is a voter supposed to make an informed decision? Given the current state of public information, they can’t. On one hand we have the...
    Gareth’s World | 17-09
  • National plans to cut numbers by 25%
    The National Party has today announced plans to cut all numbers by 25 per cent....
    Imperator Fish | 17-09
  • The Pullman Hotel – Pulled into line?
    Greetings from Barcelona, where I’m currently winding up a 3 week European holiday that has also taken me to Amsterdam, Paris, and Porto. But my thoughts on those cities will have to wait for another day, because right now I want to engage in some bloated,...
    Transport Blog | 17-09
  • Taking a stand against dirty politics
    A month ago, Nicky Hager published Dirty Politics, and set this election on fire. Today, over 2,100 people took a stand against the dirty politics he revealed, through a crowdfunded full-page ad in the Herald (Image stolen from @DirtyPoliticsNZ) Collectively,...
    No Right Turn | 17-09
  • Revealed: Which parties will do the most to reduce New Zealand’s growing ...
    The Equality Network, a group of New Zealand organisations dedicated to reducing inequality, is today releasing a rating of political parties and their policies on tackling income gaps The ratings reveal the Greens out in front, with a rating of...
    Closing the Gap | 16-09
  • New Fisk
    Islamic State: Assad lures Obama into his web...
    No Right Turn | 16-09
  • Fiji votes
    Fijians are heading to the polls today in the first elections since the 2006 coup. Good - Fiji deserves an elected government, not an unelected dictator. But the dictator is fighting hard to stop it. There's the weird ballot paper...
    No Right Turn | 16-09
  • John Key’s Top 69 Lies: Today no. 3 – GCSB mass surveillance would take...
     John Key defends the GCSB bill  “If GCSB this afternoon, were to decide they’re going to listen to every phone call, and read every txt message in New Zealand, do you know how many people that would take? A hundred...
    Arch Rival | 16-09
  • Hard News: Interview: Glenn Greenwald
    I was offered an interview with Glenn Greenwald yesterday in the wake of his appearance at the Moment of Truth event. What follows is the transcript of that interview. It covers both the specifics of what he reported at the...
    Public Address | 16-09
  • Great family policy from the Greens
    I’m not just saying this because I suggested exactly this policy three months ago on Twitter, though it is always satisfying to see great minds thinking alike! The Greens’ Welcome Pack for newborn babies is modelled on Finnish baby boxes...
    Boots Theory | 16-09
  • Sell your house privately in New Zealand – the book.
    Over at 200 Square we help people sell their house by using the latest internet tools, and avoiding expensive print and high agent overheads like fancy offices. Our licensed real estate agents  to the wheeling and dealing for clients, and are very...
    Lance Wiggs | 16-09
  • Population-weighted densities in New Zealand and Australia
    Urban population density is a hot topic – some people complain that it’s getting too high in Auckland, while others worry that it’s too low to get the urban outcomes we want. Either way, density matters – it can have...
    Transport Blog | 16-09
  • Access: Disability: Election Promises for the 24%
    In the latest census 24% of the population were identified as disabled, that is 1.1 million people New Zealanders. Many of those are older people with physical impairments, but for young people learning disability is the most common. Then there...
    Public Address | 16-09
  • Speaker: The plan against the rebuild
    There is a great deal of ruin in a city, to paraphrase Adam Smith’s calm reply to those heralding the doom of Britain after the battle of Saratoga. In other words, it takes a lot to really wreck either a...
    Public Address | 16-09
  • A conspiracy theory too far
    Just over a month ago, the Prime Minister of New Zealand claimed that an award-winning writer was nothing more than a "screaming left-wing conspiracy theorist" and in so doing hoped to dismiss all his exceptional work that documents the National...
    The Jackal | 16-09
  • Attack! Attack!! Attack!!!!
    We’ve had several weeks now since the release of Dirty Politics and just as we thought it might be dying down as our lords and masters in the mainstream media decided followed National’s argument and moved on to reporting about...
    My Thinks | 16-09
  • 2014 Party Gender Balance
    Out of interest I have looked at each party's list rankings and worked the ratio and percentage of women who would be elected if they got the best possible vote. I compared the parties on the so called 'left' and...
    Local Bodies | 16-09
  • Katherine Rich – resign!
    . I reprint the following from the Herald, in full, as I believe it tells the story better than I could;  . I don’t usually write columns about politics but I’m going to talk about smear campaigns and conflict because...
    Frankly Speaking | 16-09
  • Katherine Rich – resign!
    . I reprint the following from the Herald, in full, as I believe it tells the story better than I could;  . I don’t usually write columns about politics but I’m going to talk about smear campaigns and conflict because...
    Frankly Speaking | 16-09
  • Gordon Campbell on first time voting (centre right)
    For the next two days, I’m turning my column over to two guest columnists who are first time voters. I’ve asked them to explain why they were voting, for whom and what role they thought their parental upbringing had played...
    Gordon Campbell | 16-09
  • It’s time for Key to go!
    Key – it’s time to resign! .   .   John Key is no longer fit to lead this country. Sign the petition. Tell him it’s time to go! Sign Here . . = fs =Filed under: The Body Politic...
    Frankly Speaking | 16-09
  • It’s time for Key to go!
    Key – it’s time to resign! .   .   John Key is no longer fit to lead this country. Sign the petition. Tell him it’s time to go! Sign Here . . = fs =Filed under: The Body Politic...
    Frankly Speaking | 16-09
  • Think of these things: whence you came; where you are going; and to whom yo...
    I gave the ODT my thoughts on "The Moment of Truth" event last night - the tl;dr of which is that there are some important questions about the issue of data collection and surveillance to be addressed, but that the...
    Pundit | 16-09
  • Political joke of the week…
    . NEWSFLASH: Dotcom email almost certainly a fake, says handwriting expert hired by the National party!   . . = fs =Filed under: On A Lighter Note, The Body Politic Tagged: Dear Leader lies through his teeth, GCSB, Hollywood, Kim...
    Frankly Speaking | 16-09
  • Political joke of the week…
    . NEWSFLASH: Dotcom email almost certainly a fake, says handwriting expert hired by the National party!   . . = fs =Filed under: On A Lighter Note, The Body Politic Tagged: Dear Leader lies through his teeth, GCSB, Hollywood, Kim...
    Frankly Speaking | 16-09
  • Certain Arctic lakes store more greenhouse gases than they release
    This is a re-post of an NSF press release New research, supported by the National Science Foundation (NSF), counters a widely-held scientific view that thawing permafrost uniformly accelerates atmospheric warming, indicating instead that certain Arctic lakes store more greenhouse gases...
    Skeptical Science | 16-09
  • A Working Majority
    Constitutional Guardian: Only the person who can assure the Governor-General Sir Jerry Mateparae, that he or she commands a majority on the floor of the House of Representatives has the right to assume the office of Prime Minister. If John...
    Bowalley Road | 16-09
  • Stuart’s 100 #27 Civic Uses for a Civic Asset
    27: Civic Uses for a Civic Asset What if we found better uses for the old Beach Road Rail Station? Continuing the series on forgotten and under-utilised spaces in the city, some of them, like the former Beach Road Railway...
    Transport Blog | 16-09
  • A Matter of Simple Logic
    One of the few journalists to do his job properly over the course of the dirty politics scandal has been Guyon Espiner. He has, without in any way breaching his duty of impartiality, seen it as his responsibility on Morning...
    Bryan Gould | 16-09
  • Eminem Publishers Sue New Zealand National Party
    Ha! Those of us who thought, Gee, that sounds pretty close to Eminem … Will the real Slim Shady please stand up? - P h/t: Radio NZ’s Chris Bramwell...
    The Paepae | 16-09
  • I am so sick of this obvious lie, pt 2
    Another obvious lie too many National supporters believe is that Labour are bad for employment (because they raise the minimum wage too fast), and National have “solved unemployment” (because they’ve made it harder to maintain benefits): Now, it is true that Labour raise the minimum wage much...
    Cut your hair | 16-09
  • Advance voting again
    Another day, more incredible advance voting statistics: 287,735 of us have already voted. And with four days to go, I think we can safely assume that it will reach 650,000. Which on current enrolment figures, means almost 20% of the...
    No Right Turn | 16-09
  • Maritime Union backs change of Government to put workers first
    A change of Government is required to deliver secure jobs and decent wages for New Zealand workers....
    MUNZ | 16-09
  • A solid policy
    While National is teasing people with promises of tax cuts maybe sometime, the Greens have introduced another small but solid policy: a maternity box. Based on the Finnish maternity box (which reduced their infant mortality and is one of the...
    No Right Turn | 16-09
  • “Hello, David Cunliffe calling!”
    It’s a familiar campaign scene at Fraser House, Labour’s HQ. Around 30 volunteers are staffing the phone canvassing banks. There’s lots of familiar faces - Rama, Paul, Jessie, David, to name but a few. David, coffee cup in hand, has...
    Labour campaign | 16-09
  • Just because I can….
    "Listen, we have to stop doing these tobacco sponsored modelling jobs - we're starting to look like cadavers.""I tell you, my corset's so tight I can't breathe and I think my stomach just emptied into my lungs."Woman thinks: "Lord I'm...
    Te Whare Whero | 16-09
  • John Key’s Top 69 Lies: Today no. 4: New Zealanders have never been subje...
     Without a doubt - Key  Snowden: New Zealand’s Prime Minister Isn’t Telling the Truth About Mass Surveillance   Derek Cheng: Guest star leaves it all out there     ...
    Arch Rival | 16-09
  • Who’s Running The Show & In Whose Interests?
    A video of the CAFCA (Campaign Against Foreign Control – Aotearoa) pre-election tour presentation....
    Watchblog Aotearoa | 16-09
  • Getting out the vote!
      It’s a lovely sunny morning in Hamilton as we pull up with the big red bus at Wintec, the local polytechnic. Early polling booths had officially opened today at Wintec, and I was excited to see how long the...
    Labour campaign | 16-09
  • One of the more populist catch phrases of the Left in this election has been to ‘feed the kids’. With both the Greens and Internet Mana backing the policy, it seems to be a vote winner for politicians. But is...
    Gareth’s World | 16-09
  • The difference between Traffic Engineers and Planners
    We often deride traffic engineers for the road dominant nature of Auckland. Sometimes this can be a bit unfair as we know not all engineers are bad and the term is often be a bit of a catch all phrase for those involved in...
    Transport Blog | 16-09
  • With enemies like these…
    An analysis of Kim Dotcom's big event....
    Imperator Fish | 16-09
  • NZ Inc: Frightening the invisible horses of the market
    Today’s anonymous Herald editorial is scathing of Labour’s NZ Inc policy, which defies all logic and reason by assuming that there are better ways to build our economy than flogging off profitable assets, built by New Zealanders, to foreign investors....
    Boots Theory | 16-09
  • Speaker: In Tribute: Peter Gutteridge and the Hypnotic Groove
    Peter Gutteridge changed my life. In December 1988 I came to Dunedin on holiday for a week from my hometown of Gisborne. I was eager to see some of the fabled Dunedin bands live and I couldn’t have timed it...
    Public Address | 16-09
  • Wendyl Nissen leaves NewstalkZB
    Despite the Prime Minister attempting to downplay the serious issues raised by Dirty Politics, a month on from Nicky Hager's book release and we're still learning more about those who were adversely effected by the numerous Whale Oil smear campaigns...
    The Jackal | 15-09
  • The big picture: Who precisely is monitoring us, and is the GCSB in cahoots...
    The destruction of Dotcom’s credibility last night is a real shame, not because I have any great sympathy for the man (I don’t), but because the wrecking ball that just swung back and collected him will now distract for the very important questions...
    Occasionally erudite | 15-09
  • Thumbs up for the Green Party’s water policy
    At the weekend the Green Party  announced a policy about irrigation – they would charge farmers for the water they use. They’re going to be criticised for saying it, but my word, we all owe them a word of thanks...
    Gareth’s World | 15-09
  • The Chewbacca defence
    People may remember this old South Park classic. Faced with a case he cannot win, a lawyer attempts to distract the jury by introducing irrelevant material and claiming it's a defence. That's pretty much what John Key has done over...
    No Right Turn | 15-09
  • The MANA Plan for Beneficiaries and Income in Waiariki
    Median Personal Income for Waiariki is $21,700. Over 13,000 Maori who live in Waiariki rely upon a form of government benefit including the Unemployment Benefit, Sickness Benefit, Domestic Purpose Benefit and the Invalids Benefit. “If you’re lucky enough to have...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Māori development crucial to New Zealand’s future
    Labour recognises the concern of Māori about child poverty and the rising costs of living, and in Government will make a real difference to the wellbeing of whānau and iwi, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “As our Māori...
    Labour | 16-09
  • MAORI PARTY – DON’T COMPLAIN … WALK
    “If the Maori Party are serious about stopping government spying on NZ citizens then they should tell the Prime Minister to either stop doing it or they will walk away” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira, on...
    Mana | 16-09
  • JOHN KEY SUPPORTING LABOUR
    “There is something really sick about a National Party Prime Minister coming out in support of a Labour candidate” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira, after hearing that John Key is urging voters to back Labour in...
    Mana | 16-09
  • SHUT DOWN THIS GOVT NOT KAITI WINZ – Nikora
    “I’m going to make it as hard for you to get help as I can” is Paula Bennett’s message to the people of Kaiti  said MANA candidate Te Hāmua Nikora today in response to the news that National will close...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Winegums make for better polling – Harawira
    I wanted to laugh when I saw the Native Affairs poll the other night (Hone Harawira 38%, Kelvin Davis 37%) because it was almost the same as the one they did back in 2011”, said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau...
    Mana | 16-09
  • The Leadership of MTS Lied – Harawira
    “Normally I’m happy to tell people that I was right but when I received the news about the staff cuts at Maori Television, I had nothing but sympathy for the three Maori media leaders who are going to be made...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Privileges Complaint Laid against Prime Minister – Harawira
    MANA Movement Leader and Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira has today lodged a Privileges Complaint with the Speaker regarding the Prime Ministers denials in parliament that he knew anything about Kim Dotcom before 2012. “Information made public today appears...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Sharples’ new appointments are out of order
    The new appointments to the Waitangi Tribunal announced by Dr Pita Sharples this morning are completely out of order given the election is just five days away, says Labour's State Services spokesperson, Maryan Street. “This Government continues to show disdain...
    Labour | 15-09
  • MANA Movement Housing Policy
    “When families are living in cars, garages, cockroach-infested caravans and three families to a house then we have a housing crisis”, said MANA leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira. “When you have a housing crisis for low-income...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Bigger than the Foreshore and Seabed – Sykes
    “Over the past week I have received some disturbing information that has led myself and a number of Maori lawyers to conclude that this National - Maori Party - ACT and United Future Government are going to put an end to both...
    Mana | 14-09
  • MANA wants Te Reo Māori petition fulfilled
    Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Annette Sykes, MANA candidate for Waiariki Te Hāmua Nikora, MANA candidate for Ikaroa Rāwhiti  “More than four decades have passed and the petition calling for Te Reo Māori in schools...
    Mana | 14-09
  • Primary focus on the critical issues
    A Labour Government will prioritise New Zealand’s agricultural sectors by recreating a Rural Affairs Minister and appointing a Primary Industry Council and a Chief Agricultural Adviser. Releasing Labour’s Primary Sector and Rural Affairs policies today, spokesperson Damien O’Connor says the...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Maori Television fears confirmed – Harawira
    ...
    Mana | 12-09
  • More ghost houses from National
    The Government’s desperate pre-election announcement of more ghost houses won’t fool Aucklanders wanting action on the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “These are ghost houses, to go with National’s ghost tax cut. Families cannot live in ghost...
    Labour | 12-09
  • National bows to union pressure over travel time
    National has reluctantly bowed to pressure from unions and adopted Labour’s fair and sensible policy to pay home support workers for the time they spend traveling between clients, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “This decision is long overdue...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Predators on Poverty – Harawira
    “As poverty has ballooned out of control, the Predators on Poverty have emerged to suck the lifeblood from whole families and communities” said MANA Movement leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira. “They are deliberately targeting low-income areas, particularly those...
    Mana | 11-09
  • MANA Movement Policy Launch
    Predators on Poverty (pokie machines, alcohol outlets and loan sharks) 1pm, Thursday 11th September Corner Great South Road and Criterion Street Otahuhu Shopping Centre...
    Mana | 10-09
  • Eliminating Poverty – Sir Edmund Hillary Collegiate, Otara | Internet MAN...
    A campaign to Eliminate Poverty, Feed the Kids, build more houses, and create thousands of new jobs, was outlined by Internet MANA at a public meeting in Otara this evening. When MANA and the Internet Party first sat down to...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Housing in Waiariki – Sykes
    Fact:  Under this National-Maori Party-ACT-United Future Government 61% of Maori in Waiariki do not own their own home and nearly 70% of Maori rentals in Waiariki pay $200 or more per week. “Maori in Waiariki have low rates of home ownership...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Charter school crisis shows time to axe costly experiment
    Dysfunction from day one at a Northland charter school shows it is time to dump this costly and failed experiment by the National-ACT Government, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Te Kura Hourua ki Whangaruru received $27,000 in government funding...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Labour will crack down on loan sharks
    A Labour Government will crack down on predatory loan sharks by making it illegal both to charge exorbitant interest rates and to exploit uninformed borrowers, Labour’s Consumer Affairs Spokesperson Carol Beaumont says. Labour today released its Consumer Affairs policy which...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Let’s do the FEED before the weed
    “Last week I put out a very strongly worded email to my colleagues about an online promotion about cannabis law reform” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira “and I stand by that criticism today.” My concern was...
    Mana | 08-09
  • TE KAEA and NATIVE AFFAIRS live to fight another day
    “I understand that both the chair of the Board of Maori Television, Georgina Te Heuheu, and new CEO, Paora Maxwell, are now saying that my comments this morning about their plans to cut Te Kaea and Native Affairs, were wrong, and that...
    Mana | 08-09
  • How come the PM only pays 2.8% of his income in tax – Harawira
    “Before John Key talks about the piddling tax cuts he plans for low and middle income families today he needs to explain why he only pays 2.8% of his income on tax while a minimum wage worker pays 28% tax,”...
    Mana | 07-09
  • THE DEATH OF INDEPENDENCE FOR MAORI TV
    “If what I’m hearing is true, tomorrow Maori Television Service (MTS) will dump its news programme, Te Kaea, and staff will lose their jobs” said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira “and the Minister of Maori...
    Mana | 07-09
  • Labour recommits to Pike River families
    An incoming Labour-led government will do everything possible to recover the bodies of the Pike River Miners and return them to their families, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “This tragedy and its aftermath has left the families of the 29...
    Labour | 06-09
  • Voting has started and still no tax plan or fiscal budget for voters to see
    "Even though voting for the election has already begun, National still refuses to provide any details of its proposed tax cuts. And Bill English admitted this morning that he won’t provide any specifics until after the election", Labour’s Finance spokesperson...
    Labour | 06-09
  • National’s partners’ tax plans cost at least $42 billion
    If National forms the next government its partners’ tax plans will cost the country at least $42 billion, and maybe as much as $50 billion, wreaking havoc with the books, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National claims to be...
    Labour | 05-09
  • Labour: Providing more opportunities for young Kiwis
    A Labour Government will ensure every young Kiwi under the age of 20 is given the opportunity to be in work, education or training, and plans to develop a conservation apprenticeship scheme to help do that, Labour’s Youth Affairs spokesperson...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Candles out on teachers’ slice of birthday cake
    Today may be Novopay’s second birthday, but there’s little to celebrate, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Novopay has cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars already, and the cost is still climbing....
    Labour | 04-09
  • National’s blatant broadband pork barrelling misses the mark by a country...
    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Speech to Canterbury Chamber of Commerce
    Today I'm going to talk about our policy package to upgrade and grow our economy and how we turn that growth into a foundation for a decent and fair society. But first I want to address the issue of our...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Commission of Inquiry must have bipartisan support
    The Labour Party is drafting terms of reference for a Commission of Inquiry, Labour’s Shadow Attorney-General David Parker says. “It is abundantly clear there is a need for an independent Commission of Inquiry, chaired by a High Court Judge, into...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Rapid Transit to unclog Christchurch
    Labour will build a 21st century Rapid Transit system for Christchurch, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The long delayed recovery of Christchurch hinges on a modern commuter system for the city. “We will invest $100 million in a modern rail plan...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s commitment to public broadcasting
    A Labour Government will set up a working group to re-establish a public service television station as part of our commitment to ensuring New Zealand has high quality free-to-air local content. “We will set up a working group to report...
    Labour | 31-08
  • A new deal for the conservation estate
    The health of our economy depends on New Zealand preserving and restoring our land, air, water and indigenous wildlife, says Labour’s Conservation spokesperson Ruth Dyson. Announcing Labours Conservation policy, she said that there will be a comprehensive plan to restore...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Bad luck National
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    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • The incredible changing John Key story on mass spying – why the Moment of...
    While the mainstream media continue to try and make the Moment of Truth about Kim’s last minute decision to prolong his battle against John Key past the election into the Privileges Committee, the reality is that the Moment of Truth...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Themes of the Campaign
    There’s one area of a political campaign that just about everyone, at some point, falls afoul of. The campaign song. I’m not sure quite why it is, but it seems to be almost impossible for political parties to come up...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Denis Tegg – The NSA slides that prove mass surveillance
    The evidence presented by Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden on The Intercept of mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB is undeniable, and can stand on its own. But when you place this fresh evidence in the context of...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland
    The Ukrainian civil war discomforts me. It seems to me the most dangerous political crisis since the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. And it’s because of our unwillingness to examine the issues in a holistic way. We innately prefer to...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man – the relationship intensifies
    John Key’s love affair with the straw man is now a fully-committed relationship. It’s now the first love of his life. Sorry Bronagh. Yesterday I pointed to Key’s constant assurances that there is no mass surveillance of New Zealanders by...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • A brief word on why Wendyl Nissen is a hero
    Wendyl Nissen is a hero. The sleazy black ops attack on her by Slater and Odgers on behalf of Grocery Council chief executive Katherine Rich is sick. All Nissen is doing in her column is point out the filth and...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Eminem sues National Party for unlawful use of ‘Lose yourself’ bhahahah...
    …ahahahahahahahaha. Oh Christ this is hilarious… National Party sued over Eminem copyright infringment US rapper Eminem is suing the National Party for allegedly breaching copyright by using his song Lose Yourself in its campaign advertisements. The Detroit-based publishers of Eminem’s...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Are the Greens about to be snookered by a Labour-NZ First Government?
    I wrote last week that it was smart politics that the Greens pointed out they could work with National, the soft blue vote that’s looking for a home in the wake of Dirty Politics isn’t going to Labour, so the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • BLOGWATCH: Fonterra join 2Degrees and boycott Whaleoil
    In the wake of Dirty Politics, advertisers are pulling their advertising out of Whaleoil. PaknSave, Evo Cycles Pukekohe, Localist, 2 Degrees, Fertility Associates, iSentia, NZ Breast Cancer Foundation, Maori TV, Bookme.co.nz, Dobetter.co.nz and the Sound are now joined by Fonterra...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • PM Key accused of allowing secret ‘spook’ cable sensors to spy on citiz...
    Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald (left) and Kim Dotcom at the “moment of truth” political surveillance meeting in Auckland last night. Image: PMW By ANNA MAJAVU of Pacific Media Watch NEW ZEALAND Prime Minister John Key has been accused of...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Fiji pre-election ‘politics’ blackout stirs media protests, frustration
    BLACKOUT DAY – Monday, day one of the “silence window” in Fiji leading up to the close of polling in the general election at 6pm on Wednesday. And this is under the draconian threat of a $10,000 fine or five...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • “Now the work of movements begins”: government corruption, media bias, ...
    I am so tired of the dirty politics of the National government, aren’t you? I am tired of John Key and his pathetic attacks on award-winning journalists who have spent their careers fighting and digging for truth and good. The...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Moment of Truth review, smoking guns and the awful coverage by the NZ msm
      There were queues unlike any the Town Hall has seen, 1000 were turned away once it became full…     …full to the rafters. The energy and atmosphere within the room was extraordinary, and it begun…   …Glenn Greenwald...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Why Maori TV’s Te Tai Tokeraou Poll will be proved wrong
    If Hone Harawira had a dollar every time the media wrote off his chance of winning Te Tai Tokeraou, he would have more money than Kim Dotcom. Remember the by-election? Hone was 1 point ahead of Kelvin in an exact...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • September 15 RNZ interviews – and then the Moment of Truth
    . Acknowledgement: Emmerson . 15 September – Leading up to the Moment of Truth public meeting this evening, these Radio NZ interviews are worth listening to; . Alt link . Alt link . Alt link . Alt link . Alt...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Live Stream: Moment of Truth Tonight 7pm
    Live Video Stream by eCast: The Daily Blog will Live Stream the Moment of Trust public meeting from 7pm. The meeting will feature Glenn Greenwald, Kim Dotcom, Robert Amsterdam, and a very special guest…...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • The proof Key lied about GCSB mass surveillance
    And we start getting to the evidence that proves Key has lied about mass surveillance. The article by Glenn Greenwald is out and it is beyond damning… Documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden show that the government worked in...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • A brief word on the Ede-Slater emails
    Every day I have rushed to read the paper to see if a breaking story on the Ede-Slater emails had broken yet. They haven’t. Day after day, where are these emails? We know Rawshark sent the emails to David Fisher...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • The email that proves Key is a liar
    This is the Email proving Key knew about Kim Dotcom before he claims he did… “We had a really good meeting with the Prime Minister. He’s a fan and we’re getting what we came for. Your groundwork in New Zealand...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Henchmen
    Henchmen...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Why it simply isn’t credible that Key stepped in and shut down the mass s...
    Key’s staggering admission that yes there was a year long business model by the GCSB to mass spy on all of NZ but  that he stepped in and shut it down after Cabinet had signed it off just sounds like make...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man
    Politicians like putting up straw men for the purpose of self-righteously knocking them over. Prime Minister John Key has a particular straw man he loves to punch over. He raises it whenever he’s asked about mass surveillance of New Zealanders...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • John Armstrong turns on Glenn Greenwald
    Where does a mediocre journalist like John Armstrong get off attacking a journalist with the credibility of Glenn Greenwald as he has in his ridiculous column today? Armstrong has the audacity to try and play the terrorism card to justify why...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – Which of John Key’s many statements on the GC...
    We already have Glenn Greenwald’s assertion on The Nation that John Key has misled New Zealanders as to whether the GCSB has engaged in mass surveillance of Kiwis. But Key has made many other statements about the GCSB’s powers and...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Election 2014: Numbers and Faces
    Democratic politics is a game of numbers and faces. How can we translate the numbers into the 120 or more faces that will be in the next Parliament? Below is my prediction of a likely result: 120 people, divided by...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Scotland the brave
    The possibility that Scotland will vote for independence this Thursday has panicked the British establishment. An unholy alliance of Tory, Labour, Liberal and corporate leaders has resorted to fear-mongering and bullying on grand scale in a last ditch effort to...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Why Key’s denials sound so off and why Dotcom’s fight is all our fight
    The shrillness of Key is the issue. His denials just too forced and rehearsed. Key has gone from Hollow Man to Shallow Man with his lashing out at Pulitzer Price winning Journalist Glenn Greenwald by calling him a ‘henchman’. This...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Letters to the Editor – Spies, Lies, Five Eyes, and other matters on a S...
    . . Sharing a few thoughts and observations with newspaper editors around the country… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com>to: Sunday Star Times <letters@star-times.co.nz>date: Sun, Sep 14, 2014 subject: Letter to the Editor . The Editor Sunday Star Times . Our...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Letters to the Editor – Spies, Lies, Five Eyes, and other matters on a Su...
    . . Sharing a few thoughts and observations with newspaper editors around the country… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com>to: Sunday Star Times <letters@star-times.co.nz>date: Sun, Sep 14, 2014 subject: Letter to the Editor . The Editor Sunday Star Times . Our...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • As TDB predicted, Labour to use universal super fund to buy back assets and...
    Greens about to be snookered again?   As The Daily Blog has pointed out several times now, Labour will use a universal super fund to buy back NZs assets in a bid to offer Winston a legacy project… Labour plans...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • A lesson in caring for our most vulnerable
    Some of the comments on this article make me sick. Because I am so very much over people who think they are better than others because things have gone their way in life and think those who aren’t as functional...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Please vote positive
    One of the features of campaigning is the meet-the-candidates event.  As an opportunity to present policies to the voter, they aren’t the best vehicle but still serve a useful purpose.  The problem is that there are too many candidates and...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • For this who don’t vote this election
    For this who don’t vote this election...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Where does Key get off abusing a Pulitzer prize winning Journalist like Gle...
    We are seeing the Dirty Politics PM today when Key decided the best way to counter the Glenn Greenwald claims of GCSB mass surveillance was to denigrate Greenwald… Prime Minister John Key says he will prove Glenn Greenwald’s claims by the...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Teflon Man No More
    . .   On 26 August, as Nicky Hager’s expose on New Zealand’s right wing politics hit public consciousness and confirmed our worst fears, I wrote, “Dirty Politics” has achieved more than simply revealing  unwholesome machinations between National party apparatchiks,...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Dear mainstream media – regarding Key’s promise to resign if GCSB expos...
    Dear Mainstream media. How’s it all going? I would like to acknowledge the deep depression many members of the Press Gallery are going through as their boy Key looks less and less likely to win. I appreciate how a loss...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • It’s official: ACT’s Jamie Whyte is several-sandwiches-and-a-salad sho...
    .   . There aren’t very many times I agree wholeheartedly with our Dear Leader – but on this occassion I believe he spoke for those 99% of New Zealanders for whom common sense is as natural as breathing air....
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • ‘I’ll not be intimidated … by cowards’, says Fiji death threat jour...
    Fiji Sun’s Jyoti Pratibha … death threats via fake Facebook profiles. Image: Pacific Scoop THE PARIS-based media freedom advocacy organisation Reporters Sans Frontières and the Pacific Media Centre have condemned threats and intimidation against political reporters this week covering Fiji’s...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Glenn Greenwald on TV3s ‘The Nation’ – Everyone remember when Key pro...
    Glenn Greenwald has just given his first NZ interview on TV3s ‘The Nation’ and what he had to say was incredibly damaging. Glenn is here for Kim Dotcom’s Moment of Truth on Monday and what he has just had to...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • What will soft National vote do, why Colin Craig will be a focus in final w...
    In what has been the most unpredictable elections of our time, the final week promises more shocks and bombshells than World War One trench warfare. We have the media who still have the Rawshark emails that detail the Ede-Slater exchanges....
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Would a National-Conservative Party reduce rights to an abortion? Legalise ...
    With the possibility of a Conservative-National Party coalition looming, let’s consider the impact of this new hard right religious Government on social policy. We know Conservative Party candidate Edward Saafi, believes the inability to legally bash your kids is responsible for teenage prostitution, teenage pregnancy and...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • ACTs solution to crime – more guns?
    How insane are the ACT Party? Honestly? Their solution to crime is to arm every shop keeper with a sawn off shotgun??? “Criminals are well aware that shopkeepers are defenceless and are taking advantage of this in brutal robberies. What...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • John Key’s gift to teenage girls…
    Yesterday I was at the MANA Movement policy release on “Predators on Poverty” in the Otahuhu Shopping Centre. Successive Labour and National governments have left vulnerable communities on their own to face these merciless thieves who prey on the poor...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Poverty denial – Where does National get its advice from?
    National is displaying a quite inadequate understanding of their own policies and worrying inability to respond to criticism. When John Key trots out his old, tired example of how ‘work pays’ on Morning Report this week to justify leaving 260,000...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Education reformers mean well, so what’s the problem?
    The thing about education reformers is that, mostly, they mean well. Whether it’s charter schools, National Standards, Teach First, or another reform, many people involved have good intentions.  They want to improve things, try something new and innovate, they say. The thing...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • My brain hurts
    My brain hurts.  This election year has been a really long nine months.  The lies, the headlines, the spin, the policy, the chat, I am literally overloaded with information.  At times it’s been exhausting trying to keep up.  However I...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Slater loses Blomfield defamation case – has to pays costs & must dis...
    Great victory for Journalism today. The Defamation case Matt Blomfield took against Slater has jumped its first hurdle, Slater has been told he might be a ‘Journalist’, but he has no right to journalistic protection of his sources because there was no...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Seeing an Economic Vision
    It has been some time since my last post to TDB. I was fortunate to recently come back to NZ briefly for a bit of a break from my work in Pakistan. While my visit was super short, I took...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • New national secretary announced
    The PSA is pleased to announce the appointment of Erin Polaczuk to the role of national secretary....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Public Secotr & TISA: On the cusp of something very special?
    Is the National Party keeping some things out of sight in case they frighten the electorate? Here is some worrying evidence that this may be the case....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • MPI ups yacht biosecurity ante
    Yachts arriving in Northland from overseas this season will face greater biosecurity scrutiny, says the Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI)....
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • iPredict Election Update
    John Key’s National Party now has an 88% probability of leading the next government , most probably with the support of NZ First, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. There...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • Crowdfunding to Save Native Fish
    NZ Landcare Trust is offering an exciting project designed to assist native fish, as part of the launch of a new global crowdfunding category called 'The Landcare & Environment Collection.' This exciting step, aims to help raise funds and support,...
    Scoop politics | 17-09
  • New methods needed to reach non-voters
    Non-voters are much heavier users of the internet than those who do vote, while 43 per cent of non-voters say they never read a newspaper according to research released today by the Election Data Consortium....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parties sent home with report cards
    More than 2000 New Zealanders came together to run a full page ad in the Herald today asking all Parties what they will commit to do to clean up politics. The answers are in, and ActionStation has graded Parties on...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • One in 10 Kiwis want Winston Peters to Run the Country -Poll
    New Zealand First leader, Winston Peters has seen his personal popularity reach a three-year high in the final 3News/Reid Research poll ahead of Election Day....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Shut Down This Govt Not Kaiti WINZ
    "I’m going to make it as hard for you to get help as I can" is Paula Bennett’s message to the people of Kaiti said MANA candidate Te Hāmua Nikora today in response to the news that National will close...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • New methods needed to reach non-voters
    Non-voters are much heavier users of the internet than those who do vote, while 43 per cent of non-voters say they never read a newspaper according to research released today by the Election Data Consortium....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Conservatives Break Through 5% Threshold
    Reports in today’s Dominion Post that the Conservative Party is polling at 6% in Nationals internal polling are not surprising says the Conservative Napier candidate Garth McVicar....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • The MANA Plan for Beneficiaries and Income in Waiariki
    Median Personal Income for Waiariki is $21,700. Over 13,000 Maori who live in Waiariki rely upon a form of government benefit including the Unemployment Benefit, Sickness Benefit, Domestic Purpose Benefit and the Invalids Benefit....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • IGIS: No Indiscriminate Interception of NZers’ Data Found
    “As part of my role as Inspector-General, I review whether the GCSB complies with the restrictions upon interception of New Zealanders’ communications and with the requirement to intercept communications only for authorised purposes. That review...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Conservatives Break through 5% Threshold
    Reports in today’s Dominion Post that the Conservative Party is polling at 6% in Nationals internal polling are not surprising says the Conservative Napier candidate Garth McVicar....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Hundreds of Students Turn Out for Political Debate
    With only a few days left before the general election, over 500 Victoria students packed the central Hub space on campus today to listen to a political debate on student issues organised by the Students’ Association. Victoria University of Wellington...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Ex-prisoners make most of mentoring to make most of life
    It’s not every day that an organisation triples a programme in size, but PARS Inc (formerly known as the Prisoners’ Aid and Rehabilitation Society of the Auckland District Inc) has managed to do just that with their Community Mentoring Scheme,...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Unscrupulous worker highlights why 90-days works
    Federated Farmers believes the experience of a husband and wife farming team in Taranaki underscores why the 90-days provision is so important to small businesses. “Yesterday a member called 0800 FARMING to alert us to a guy doing the rounds...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Eye to Eye Uploaded
    Leading Maori broadcaster and political commentator Willie Jackson previews Eye to Eye Uploaded, a multi-platform series of interviews that he’s aiming to put in front of media radars next year....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Party Rankings against Inequality
    Revealed: which party will do the most to reduce New Zealand’s growing inequality crisis...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Maritime Union backs change of Government
    The Maritime Union says a change of Government is required to deliver secure jobs and decent wages for New Zealand workers....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Green Party package for newborns welcomed
    16 September 2014 Media Release The New Zealand College of Midwives has welcomed a policy announced today by the Green Party which would provide a package of essential items for every newborn baby. The College is a non partisan organisation...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • ALCP Release Election Manifesto
    The Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party has released its manifesto in the lead up to the election on Saturday....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Election Daily Update #9
    John Key’s National Party appears to have received a major boost from last night’s “Moment of Truth” event, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Despite no major changes...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Eminem Publishers Sue New Zealand National Party
    Detroit-based music publishing companies sue National Party for damages for unauthorised use of song in election campaign advertising...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parties Back Rethink of WINZ Shared Care Parenting Laws
    Overwhelming Majority of Parties Back Rethink of WINZ Shared Care Parenting Laws. Press release- Fifty Fifty Campaign, 16 September 2014 National is the only political party willing to defend the way WINZ treats separated parents who share their kids...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parents Smacking Down Prime Minister
    "John Keys failure to deliver on his promise to change the anti-smacking law is costing National votes, and helping the Conservative Party," says Colin Craig....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Political Debate on Family Violence – Video & Audio
    The Dunedin Collaboration Against Family Violence was happy to host a political debate on Family Violence chaired by Professor Nicola Atwool of the University of Otago. Family Violence is a huge problem in our community and we invited representatives...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Greens Take Nanny State To A New Level
    Family First NZ is labelling the Green’s ‘welcome package’ for newborns policy as wasteful and misdirected. “This policy is taking ‘nanny state’ to a new level but indicates just how much the Greens want to intervene in family life,”...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • 2,100 people send message about dirty politics
    2,100 people have signed their name to a full-page open letter featuring in the New Zealand Herald this Wednesday. The letter is designed to send a message to politicians that dirty politics is an important election issue....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Are DoC manipulating Rat Numbers?
    Ban 1080 Political Party co-leader Bill Wallace says there are serious rumours DoC has changed their rat counting technique to cover up the lack of the mythical “Rat Plague” claimed by the Department in Kahurangi National Park, and also that...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Average Full time Student Is in Financial Distress
    A new survey has found that nearly half of all full time students are in significant financial distress....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Key and Cunliffe, research revealed by Ancestry.com.au
    Contrasting family histories of John Key and David Cunliffe, revealed by research from Ancestry.com.au....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Revelations a Damning Indictment of Key’s Honesty
    The Prime Minister’s honesty is now central to the election, says Internet Party Leader Laila Harré, following the revelations of whistleblower Edward Snowden that there is mass surveillance of New Zealand citizens by the GCSB....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Organisations Have ‘Duty of Care’ for Players says Law Firm
    Concussion injuries in amateur and professional sporting arenas are currently highly topical. Concussion potentially appears to have been implicit in the recent death of a young player in Northland....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Media Release from Closing the Gap on Health and Housing
    “Inequality is the biggest problem facing New Zealand at the present time” says Peter Malcolm National Secretary of Closing the Gap. It underlies many of our social ills, poverty, lack of trust, an economy that could do much better, and...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Expanding Whānau Ora – a bottom line for Māori Party
    Leaving the best to last, the Māori Party has launched its Whānau Ora policy today following a fun family event at Te Ore Ore Marae in Masterton last night. “When we change what happens in our homes, we change what...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Colin Craig’s Incredible Claims Continue
    Hot on the heels of a Conservative Party candidate proposing to double the price of a bottle of wine, Colin Craig has come up with an even more fantastic idea to buttress his uncosted tax policy....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • The Letter: Jamie Whyte is going to Parliament
    Friday night’s TVNZ Colmar Brunton poll puts Jamie Whyte in Parliament. TVNZ rounded down the poll result (ACT was on 1.2%). With the high wasted Conservative vote, just 1.2% makes Jamie an MP. It is ACT, not NZ First that...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Why are we letting Dotcom steal our election?
    Why are we letting a convicted German fraudster and his American polemicists steal our election?...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ACT’s five point plan
    ACT has a five point plan to grow the economy by a third. To lift economic growth from the Treasury's long term forecast of just two percent to three....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Christchurch rebuild cost sharing plan must be improved
    “The agreement between the government and the Christchurch City Council about sharing costs of the rebuild is due to be revised in December, as some costs are more accurately known now than they were originally,“ says Warren Voight, Local...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ‘Key vs. Cunliffe’ Final Live NZ Election Reactor
    ohn Key and David Cunliffe go head to head for the final time on TV One on Wednesday as Election Day looms. Roy Morgan wants to know what you think about their performance as the leaders try one last time...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Chamber welcomes Business Growth Agenda priorities
    Wellington Employers’ Chamber of Commerce welcomes the National Government’s 10 highest priorities for its Business Growth Agenda as essential to continuing strong business performance and economic growth....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • #SafeSource NZ – A secure way to share the truth
    Dirty politics and a dirty environment go hand in hand. Our country’s future as a fairer, cleaner, more prosperous place is being threatened by backroom deals, corporate cronyism and a lack of transparency....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Last vid to encourage youth vote
    Here's the third and final in our series to boost the youth vote. It's called CINDER and it's a play on the popular dating app....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Fee hikes restrict student choices
    A survey of 5000 students from across the tertiary sector shows that tuition fees have increased at the maximum level permitted. Fees are constraining students’ choices more than ever before. Although tuition fees are only permitted to increase...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ACT’s five point plan to grow the economy
    ACT has a five point plan to double the rate of economic growth. The Treasury long term forecast for growth is 2% a year. We can lift it to 4%....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • iPredict Daily Election Update
    National’s forecast party vote has risen to 45.3% over the last day, at the expense of Labour and the Greens, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. A National/Act/UnitedFuture/Maori...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • National’s economic strategy attack workers’ rights
    The National Party’s ‘Workplaces’ policy confirms that their economic growth strategy relies on attacks on workers rights, according to FIRST Union....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Questions Raised Over Cow Deaths
    The death of 200 cows after eating a new variety of PGG Wrightsons HT swedes [1] is a disaster for New Zealand farmers....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
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