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Open mike 24/04/2014

Written By: - Date published: 6:30 am, April 24th, 2014 - 239 comments
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239 comments on “Open mike 24/04/2014”

  1. Not a PS Staffer 1

    Collins: she and Key are guilty and they have to be held to account. Keep up the good work Grant Robertson.

    Dunne: allowing him to continue with the legal highs job while his son is making a fortune from the sales of the shit is not tolerable in this society. Key is failing in his role.

    Jones? An oxygen thief not worth any further effort.

  2. karol 2

    Jones afraid that a Labour-Green government was a real possibility?

    Mr Jones, ask not what your party can do for you: ask what you can do for your party.

    Left politics are not helped by politicians more focused on their own career ambitions than the good of the country.

  3. amirite 3

    Totally agree there, Karol.
    And so it continues. He just can’t help it, can he. It’s his overinflated ego and the imaginary hurt because the plebs haven’t figured out what a great leader he is.

    Seriously, Shane, can’t you just STFU?

    • karol 3.1

      I’m waiting for the term “naked ambition” to be applied to Jones – remember when it was used by the MSM regularly about Cunliffe? Compare and contrast.

      • Olwyn 3.1.1

        Far from it. In fact the sentence “Labour has now got to find a way of appealing to its traditional blue collar workers” and variations on it, has been repeated like a mantra on this morning’s Morning Report, with David Shearer and Damien O’Connor among those quoted.

        Never mind the fact that Jones offered such people nothing concrete – that whatever appeal he had rested on a smoko-room-anecdote way of talking. Never mind either that the whole sentence seems code for “the building contractor who owns several rentals and hires people from overseas, having judged the locals as bloody useless,” and others of similar persuasion.

        The whole business looks more and more like an attempt by the right wing from both inside and outside of the Labour Party to subvert the will of left-voting people while pretending to heed it.

        • Ant 3.1.1.1

          Shearer has been a bit more of a dick over the past few days.

        • Rogue Trooper 3.1.1.2

          Well said Olwyn.

        • Karen 3.1.1.3

          +1

        • phillip ure 3.1.1.4

          “..“Labour has now got to find a way of appealing to its traditional blue collar workers”..”

          there is a simple three word answer/solution to that:..

          ..policy..policy..policy..

        • phillip ure 3.1.1.5

          @ olwyn..+ 1…

        • David H 3.1.1.6

          Well I for one am appalled at what’s been happening in the Labour Party. Jones? a minor distraction, blown out of all proportion by the MSM, and reinforced by dickheads in the Labour Party. Glad it happened now, so I can now look to another party that will WANT my vote (Greens, Mana). and not Labour saying we don’t care if you vote for us. Because that’s the message I am getting. That and ‘We can’t organise Sex in a brothel’.

  4. Ad 4

    Here in Wanaka people just laugh when I talk about Labour or Greens. Phrases like “a house divided cannot stand” and “country’s doing great” for Labour, and “ewwww!” And “ha hahaaa” for Greens.

    Everyone’s income is addicted to real estate, tourism, and superannuation. Those in agriculture can’t get comprehensive irrigation fast enough.

    Quite bracing. Pour me a Pinot.

    • Colonial Viper 4.1

      you need to get to know more local Wanaka families, and fewer recent (last 10 years) imports from Auckland, Wellington and overseas.

      • weka 4.1.1

        lolz, nice on CV.

        The GP candidate in the Waitaki electorate is a well known Wanaka person and did quite well over there.

        “Everyone’s income is addicted to real estate, tourism, and superannuation. Those in agriculture can’t get comprehensive irrigation fast enough.”

        In other words, Wanaka is being turned into an industrial dairying cesspit like everywhere else. Will be interesting to see how the farmers get on with the tourism lobby and lifestyle block real estate agents in ten years time.

    • left for dead 4.2

      Is that where they truck in cheap labour,oh thats QTN.your next though.

  5. karol 5

    John Key in denial as he visits the front line for the war on the poor.

    He’s talking up the better state houses on offer, and fails to mention the cut backs in amount of state housing, while communtiies are destroyed.

    • bad12 5.1

      Ooops, didn’t see your comment here when i posted one on the same thing below, Slippery and un-Housing Minister Nick Smith must have picked up a sense of disquiet from among the voters in the ‘focus groups’ about the ripping apart of the HousingNZ estate to be using the media in what seems like a week long ‘charm offensive’ where they are spending time ‘highlighting’ what few new build HousingNZ complexes have been completed by this regime…

      • David H 5.1.1

        Nice to see that they were warmly received, and that the people were so happy with the truth they were being told by the TricKey one. Why they even donated eggs for his dinner. And still he moans.

        • Dan 5.1.1.1

          It’s nice to know the poor aren’t so badly off that they can’t afford to waste eggs… our brighter future

    • Molly 5.2

      Interesting framing for the first article to be posted on this in the Herald yesterday, which manages to insinuate Mana Party for staging it all: PM’s car egged during state housing protests.

      Comments allowed on this article, unsurprisingly, and some live up to the quality of reporting.

      • David H 5.2.1

        Molly. I notice that a lot of the comments have disappeared, and there are only 13 left. WTF.

  6. so..jones and mccully have been talking about this ‘job’ for jones since 2009..

    ..key sez that national ‘has had good dialogue with jone..for a long time’..

    ..basically..jones has been nationals’ mole/man within labour..

    ..since at least 2009…

    ..yeah..some ‘loss’ for labour he’s now surfaced/broken cover..and returned to his paymasters…

    ..and walk like a traitor..quack like a traitor..

    ..you probably are nothing more that a traitor..

    ..(jones gone is good news for labour..

    ..the braying/bought-fool will bray no more..

    ..but he still stays ‘bought’..

    ..forever..

    ..what a shabby ending to a political-career..eh..?

    ..by his ongoing treachery jones has guaranteed himself a small historical-footnote..

    ..but we are told..he ‘coulda been a contender!’…

    ..a man sunk by his hubris/ignorances/for sale sign around his neck..

    ..when you look at jones..

    ..he was/is pretty much on ‘the wrong side’ of everything..

    ..his latest move just confirms that long pattern..

    ..jones sells out to the planet-fuckers..

    ..those really on ‘the wrong side’..)

  7. bad12 7

    ”One, two, three, four, stop the war on the poor, Maraenui under attack, stand up and fight back”, so chanted the kids of Maraenui a Napier suburb with a heavy concentration of State housing as Slippery the Prime Minister arrived to gush over the opening of some new pensioner housing,

    Having all the gastronomic fortitude of your average Rat the PM then tried to do a bunk out the back way to avoid the protest, unfortunately someone forgot to tell the driver of the limo of the change of plan and the local kids again had the pleasure of voicing their displeasure in the face of the PM along with tossing the occasional missile in the direction of the limo which eventually left bearing the scars,

    Slippery later claimed that the kids, mostly 10 to 12 year old’s were ”saying things they didn’t understand” and i suppose to preserve His ego He has to think that, but, can assure the PM that subjecting HousingNZ estates to the forced evictions and demolitions of the current regime and its 20%– $2.5 billion HousingNZ sell off leaves those kids knowing full well what is in store for them,

    While it is hard to oppose such actions in the face of the publicity stunts being organized by the current regime where the tame media are being lead around by the nose by the likes of the PM and un-Housing Minister Nick Smith ‘gushing’ over the few completed ‘new build’ HousingNZ complexes we have to remember that for all their worth, and in the future pensioner housing will be like gold with the growth of the aged population, with the proposed shrinking of the States Housing stock by 20% it will be those 10 and 12 year old’s protesting befor the Prime Minister who will be all the worse off in the future,

    Poverty has not lessened in this country, the reverse is true, it is not 20% less State Houses that are needed now in our society, it is at least 20% more of such housing that is needed with urgency…

  8. David Cunliffe on Shane Jones “When a totara falls in the forest another totara grows to take it’s place”.

    How rooted is the Labour totara?

    • bad12 8.1

      :roll: , Not near as rooted as the United Future Party which you obviously helped along the way with your ”contribution” George,

      Your comment is obviously designed to inflame ‘Open Mike’ this morning and deserves nothing more then this, :roll: , this :roll: ,and this, :roll:

    • mickysavage 8.2

      What a silly comment Pete. I thought you would be coming out with the “Labour is ignoring the working class” line that is being perpetrated right now. By all means do that but how about you do a bit of fact checking beforehand. Read the party’s policy platform and then try and argue the party is not interested in ordinary people.

      • Pete George 8.2.1

        I think it’s a fair question Greg, it’s something that’s being widely discussed. I understand that it’s the done thing in politics to stoically say everything is fine and a win is imminent, but when the chasm between reality is so wide then it is counter-productive.

        The party’s policy is not the problem. The perception of the party is tending towards pathetic.

        The party might be interested in ordinary people but it doesn’t show much. I’ve seen here and elsewhere since the loss in 2008 that the Labour caucus in particular is out of touch and doesn’t want to hear from ordinary people.

        Ex Labour minister Michael Bassett may not be a party favourite but what he said on Radio New Zealand half an hour ago about Labour now are common sentiments.

        It’s a difficult hole to get out of, but continuing to dig and deny won’t do it.

        Labour looks out of touch with people and out of touch with reality. If they don’t turn this around very soon it could be terminal.

        The first step is admitting the problems. It’s to far gone for stoic bullshit.

        If the Labour totara uproots and crashes other parties will grow in the gap, but that takes time, and in the meantime Parliament will be significantly weakened.

        • bad12 8.2.1.1

          :roll: absolute drivel George, :roll: :roll: :roll:

        • mickysavage 8.2.1.2

          No it is not a fair question Pete. It is fact free loaded spin. I thought you were trying to appear balanced.

          Michael Basset reflecting common sentiments? Feck his party is now at less than 1% of the vote.

          There may be a perception problem. It is because of a bunch of nodding heads reinforcing all the right wing spin that is fed to them and you should reflect on your comments in this regard.

          • phillip ure 8.2.1.2.1

            “..a bunch of nodding heads reinforcing all the right wing spin that is fed to them and you should reflect on your comments in this regard..”

            given he is one of those (albeit less literate examples of) rightwing nodding-heads..

            ..that is a bit of an ask..

            ..and quoting/citing rabid-rightwinger michael ‘just walk on the poor!’ bassett..?

            ..as the voice of ‘the common man’..?

            ..heh..!

            ..that’s funny..!

          • Pete George 8.2.1.2.2

            I didn’t expect a sudden emergence from denial.

            Blame right wing spin.
            Blame National.
            Blame McCully.
            Blame the media.
            Blame Shane Jones.
            Blame small party support that’s irrelevant.
            Blame anyone pointing out the emperor’s clothes are in tatters here.

            And see how you get on in September.

            It may be that a million non-voters are suddenly attracted to a party fiddling while it’s Rome burns.

            • freedom 8.2.1.2.2.1

              getting a bit tetchy there Pete!

              hey, don’t you have a Budget for Poor People to be working on?

              or have you decided it is in the too-hard basket and Politicheck won’t be doing any fact-checking articles on poverty in New Zealand?

            • mickysavage 8.2.1.2.2.2

              Still waiting for the facts Pete. Go on. Have a look at Labour’s policies and tell me which ones will not help ordinary people.

              • It’s not about the policies Greg. I can agree with most of most of Labour’s policies, and sure, some of them would help ‘ordinary people’ (although spending too much on policies could have negative effects for ordinary people too).

                Very few voters read policies. Most people vote mostly on personalities and perceptions of competence.

                Policies without power are paltry. If voters think a party doesn’t have the people or competence to win power and run a government then they won’t care what policies promise.

                • mickysavage

                  So reality does not matter and perception is all important? So I guess fact checking is a waste of time.

                  • Both reality and perception matter, because people can perceive disconnects from reality.

                    People can be fooled to perceive things that aren’t real some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.

                    Fact checking isn’t a waste of time – it can help people perceive more accurately and not get fooled by party propaganda and ignorance.

                    • pg..

                      ..you fool none of the people…all the time..

                      (and..)

                      “..Fact checking isn’t a waste of time..”

                      ..when are ya gonna go and do some..?

                      ..how is that poverty-fact-check coming along.?

                      (and..)

                      “..and not get fooled by party propaganda and ignorance..?..”

                      but that is yr oxygen..there..petey..

                      ..’party propaganda and ignorance’..

                      ..eh..?

                      ..that is what you peddle here..

                    • mickysavage

                      Isn’t it important for a fact checker to put aside perception and determine matters on what is actually occurring?

                    • Ok, can you say what is actually occurring in Labour? Like, actually, and not party spin?

                      I get it that they are gradually releasing policies.

                      What is Cunliffe achieving? and What is Labour achieving? You can set the record straight.

                • “..It’s not about the policies Greg…”

                  fucken bullshit..

                  ..national promised tax cuts as their way to office..

                  ..an agreement on working towards a guaranteed minimum income from the progressive parties..

                  ..would get many of that million to the ballot-box..

                  ..and surely by now labour must realise this is their path to power..?

                  ..and labour may well have some good policy..

                  ..maybe now the jones-circus/obstacle has left town..

                  ..they can focus on selling that policy..

                  ..talking directly to those ‘blue-collar-workers’..

                  ..telling ‘blue-collar workers’ how a progressive coalition will improve their day-to-day life..

                • Pascal's bookie

                  Here’s some data Pete, it’s not as good as we might like, but if you know of better, please share.

                  What does this data say about who people think “Is out of touch with ordinary people”?

                  http://www.reidresearch.co.nz/TV3+POLL+RESULTS.html

                  fact check yo’self Pete.

                  • “Is out of touch with ordinary people”
                    National leader – 52%
                    Labour leader – 22%

                    Estimated from chart January 2014 (a bit outdated).

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Cool. There’s more data there too of course that my be relevant to this discussion.

                      As I noted, the data isn” as good as we might like it, but it’s what we have, unless you have better data to share of course.

                      So, bearing in mind that:

                      “Fact checking isn’t a waste of time – it can help people perceive more accurately and not get fooled by party propaganda and ignorance.”

                      have a quick look at the following statements, and see if the facts revealed by that data can help clear up any propaganda or ignorance regarding what people think:

                      1) “Labour looks out of touch with people and out of touch with reality. If they don’t turn this around very soon it could be terminal.”

                      2) ” The perception of the party is tending towards pathetic.”

                      3) “Ex Labour minister Michael Bassett may not be a party favourite but what he said on Radio New Zealand half an hour ago about Labour now are common sentiments”

                • Clemgeopin

                  If an election is held today, which party would get your party vote?

                  • If this question is for me – none. The election isn’t being held today. The parties and politicians haven’t put all their offerings and abilities on show yet.

                    If I vote I’ll decide who for close to or on election day.

                    But I’ll give you a possibility – if Labour are at 20% in the polls just before the election I’d consider voting for them to help keep them alive, if I thought they deserved it.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Save your pity vote Pete, it’s not needed.

                    • freedom

                      “If an election is held today, which party would get your party vote?”
                      Pete, you know full well it is a hypothetical question.

                      Now if you do not want to share who you vote for that is your choice, just stand up tall and proud and say that you prefer not to share such intimate secret knowledge of your deepest soul. People would respect that. But to hide behind such pitiful reasoning when discussing a hypothetical situation is even more bizarre than you being Editor in Chief of a fact checking site.

                      http://thesaurus.com/browse/hypothetical

                    • wtl

                      But I’ll give you a possibility – if Labour are at 20% in the polls just before the election I’d consider voting for them to help keep them alive, if I thought they deserved it.

                      So basically it seems that you will decide who to vote for near election day based on their polices, but you will not be voting for Labour unless they need you to “save them”.

                      In other words, it seems that you have a rather strong disdain for Labour, as you will not consider voting for them on the merits of their actual policies. This is also evident in many other comments you post: whether or not you will admit to it, many of your comments here are strongly anti-Labour in tone or message.

                      Given this bias against Labour, I fail to see how your position as an independent “fact-checker” is tenable.

            • bad12 8.2.1.2.2.3

              The has been Petty George trying to tell other parties how they should do their bizz, having helped make His own political vehicle United Future a political irrelevancy has to be the joke of the day,

              A piece of toilet paper while not being as ”transparent’ as Petty George is a 100 times more useful, and this :roll:

        • Draco T Bastard 8.2.1.3

          The perception of the party is tending towards pathetic.

          Only according to the RWNJs and their pets in the MSM.

        • Pete 8.2.1.4

          So what is the definition of “ordinary people”? Because according to the 2012 New Zealand Social Survey just 21% of New Zealanders reported satisfactory results across all four of the surveyed areas of health, money, relationships and housing.

          Now relationships generally isn’t the domain of government policy (unless it’s to keep abusive behaviour in check), but Labour is putting in the effort to address the other three areas. I know people who have been helped enormously by Working For Famiilies. Kiwisaver helped me buy my home and plan for my future. And interest free student loans has saved me thousands. By contrast over the past 5 years National has done nothing that it can point to that benefits the people of New Zealand, aside from not rolling back those Labour programmes in the first place. Further, Michael Cullen’s stewardship laid the foundations to weather the GFC better than most countries, although I think he could have done more to keep the housing bubble in check.

          Let me ask you a question, Pete. What do you think is the legacy of this government? How do you think history will remember John Key’s administration? Because I’m really struggling to see any area at all where Key has improved New Zealand social wellbeing.

          • Pete George 8.2.1.4.1

            Any improvements have been modest and you have to look hard.

            Key’s nearly two terms is best known for minimising things getting worse over the course of a New Zealand recession (started under Labour), a Global financial crisis, and major disasters in Christchurch.

            Many people see that as a creditable achievement, and probably at least as good as any alternative government could have managed.

            It’s been unusual circumstances of economic survival that the country seems to have come through better than expected.

            If the National government survives into another term then we will get to see the Key legacy – if it’s any more than a cautious conservative treading water or not when we are expected to recover and grow.

            • David H 8.2.1.4.1.1

              Oh FFS Petey can’t you just answer the fucking questions.

              What do you think is the legacy of this government? A: The Blatant Corruption,

              How do you think history will remember John Key’s administration? A:For the Corruption and deals for the Boys.

              See that’s how it’s done Question. Answer. Simple.. And none of your useless bullshit waffling and link whoring!. And no one screaming at you for being a useless T :roll:

    • Not a PS Staffer 8.3

      :roll:

    • @ pg..

      ..are you using ‘rooted’ in its’ conjugal-sense/meaning..?

    • Oh pete – labour are the forest not the tree and (even as a non-labour person I can see) that forest is an ecosystem that is complete – until the chainsaws arrive and start cutting – are you a chainsaw pete? Do you want the forest cut down? If a tree is old or diseased a big gust of Mcgully-wind can blow it down – that tree is uprooted. The forest remains, ever changing.

      • phillip ure 8.5.1

        in this case the ‘mccully-wind’..

        ..has proven for labour the axiom that ‘it’s an ill wind that bows nobody any good’…

        ..the diseased-totara has fallen..

        ..quick may it rot..

      • Chooky 8.5.2

        marty mars +100.. very good analogy

        .I would like to see what the new tree Kelvin Davis has to offer and what he stands on….get to know him….a guest post/interview ?…. or a statement from him on open mike would be much appreciated

        …particularly on where he stands on Charter Schools and Standards testing…there does seem to be a bit of confusion on where exactly he does stand on these issues

        …the sooner we get to know him the sooner Jones will recede into the past

      • Ad 8.5.3

        Labour’s caucus righties still don’t get how strong the base of the party is. We have comprehensively outplayed them. Jones simply figured that the path to leadership is now determined not by caucus factions, but by the whole.

        Goff and King and Mallard will see caucus slowly tilt away from factions, and towards merit alone demonstrated to us all.

    • rhinocrates 8.6

      Get back under your bridge, the Gruff family is due any minute.

    • united future..not so much a ‘totora’..

      ..as a twig of ti-tree…

    • miravox 8.8

      Trying to be clever? Beneath even you Pete :roll:

    • One Anonymous Bloke 8.9

      The Petty George Show roll(eye)s on.

      Yesterday he was offering his “support” to The Greens. Today he’s on a ring-barking mission, and he keeps his little bag of poison handy just in case.

      • fender 8.9.1

        This PG bullshit is getting tedious, I wish he would advise on how the TS site should be run…

        [lprent: ummm... I'm not sure how I feel about people trying to encourage push people into the propeller blades. Perhaps you should desist so I don't find out how I feel about it. ]

        • Not a PS Staffer 8.9.1.1

          Don’t argue with an idiot like PG. Onlookers might not be able to tell the difference. Just eye-roll him and he will go away. :roll:

        • fender 8.9.1.2

          Sure lprent I’ll “desist” from advising PG, cos he always takes my advice :roll:

    • David H 8.10

      PG just Fuck Off, you are nothing but a waste of Oxygen.

      [lprent: If you don't put a point or even some wit to go with the abuse, then don't make the comment. Otherwise I'll eventually get irritated and start banning repeat offenders. ]

    • weka 8.11

      David Cunliffe on Shane Jones “When a totara falls in the forest another totara grows to take it’s place”

      Is that a quote Pete? Can you please attribute it?

  9. Adrian 9

    So you see him ( as I do ) as a “Jonesling”, Phillip.

    • without doubt..

      ..and the further we get from these revelations of this ongoing treachery/double-dealing of/by jones…

      ..the stronger the stench will be..

      ..(i wonder if he/jones realises this yet..?..his guaranteed place in the halls of political infamy..?..)

      ..now..imagine were this a national party ‘high-flyer’..

      ..who had been in ‘good dialogue’ with the labour party ‘for a long time’..

      ..and had now left national..at a crucial pre-election moment..(designed to do the most harm to ‘his’ party..)..

      ..to ‘work for labour’..in a plum/created/troughing-’job’..

      ..i wonder how our corporate/access-media wd handle that scenario..?

      ..differently from how they are handling this breaking from cover of jones..?

      ..i’m betting it wouldn’t be ‘national in disarray’..

      ..it’d likely be all about ‘the treachery/undemocratic-practices of labour’..

      ..eh..?..

  10. tricledrown 10

    So Jones sells out for a few pieces of silver.
    The Noise Jones made over the Countdown super market chain
    Was obviously designed to up his transfer fees.
    The snide flipant attitude over shower flow rates prior to 2008 election were designed to unseat Labour so Hey could have a tilt at leading labour.
    Now all chances of becoming leader have gone.
    Sabotage is his payback for not getting what He wants .
    For all his intellect.
    Jones is just a self centered highly egotistical dickhead.

    • Puckish Rogue 10.1

      At least Shane Jones told us who donated to his challenge

      • anker 10.1.1

        I think what came up about Shane Jones donors supports the arguement for the Trust account DC set up. He didn’t know the donors, so could not be influence by them. That was the intention. Shows integrity.

        Jones knew whos his donors were and what a surprize! not. Anti green, pro mining and secret meetings with National about a job………….Shane “what’s in it for me” Jones.

        I seem to remember him saying about DC after the leadership contest that he lost, “I offer DC my unstinting loyalty”…………..Yeah right.

        Shane Jones……………good for Tui adds.

    • Not a PS Staffer 10.2

      Countdown’s proxies will be called on by National for donations. Ralph Norris will be very pleased.

  11. Ant 11

    LOL Trotter and Bassett on RNZ morning report commenting on Labour and Jones, no agendas there…

    • bad12 11.1

      Dover Samuels, John Tamihere, Bassett, all has been’s, yesterday’s men, all trumpeting the right wing framing of Jones having tossed His toys, class traitors in other words,

      Shane Who, has been a waste of space in both the Labour Government and the Labour Opposition, His quitting is the only positive in a career that has been singularly damaging to the Party,

      Jones touted as the ‘champion’ of the blue collar workers by the media and the ever growing list of political commentators is a joke, and those touting Him as such an even worse joke,

      Good riddance is what the left should be shouting back at the fools touting Jones as any champion of the working class,

      The sooner Labour clean out the old gaurd right wingers from the Caucus the better, Jones wont be missed past the next ‘frenzy item’ seized upon by what is an obviously bored media…

      • BM 11.1.1

        Yes what labour needs right now is a public purging of people such as Goff,Shearer,Cosgrove,O’Conner.

        If Cunliffe is any leader, he’ll start wielding his sword today.

        Their destabilizing influence is destroying labour and must be removed before labour can win this years election.

        • Te Reo Putake 11.1.1.1

          Thanks for your concern, T.R.O.L.L.

        • Puckish Rogue 11.1.1.2

          :)

        • bad12 11.1.1.3

          i don’t usually bother addressing your comments BM, that is probably because conversing with the dumb while having its amusing moments is really an exercise in futility,

          Take your current comment for instance, ”Labour winning the election” is the thinking of the Neanderthal,

          Labour has No chance of winning the election, in 2014 though, the Left has every chance of doing just that….

        • Clemgeopin 11.1.1.4

          As a right wing supporter, why do you post as a Labour party well-wisher?

          • BM 11.1.1.4.1

            The post to Bad12 was purely a piss-take of his ridiculous ramblings.

            I’m predominantly right wing but would have no issue voting labour, if they had decent people and policies.

            I hope one day labour ditches the unions,their last century thought process and becomes a decent party again.

            • Colonial Viper 11.1.1.4.1.1

              Employees must once again unionise and organise in order to exercise collective bargaining power over employers, particularly larger and corporate employers.

              Even better, co-ops of workers need to start taking over and democratically running their own work places, instead of taking orders from some faraway Man who doesn’t even understand the business.

              • Draco T Bastard

                I think all businesses need to become cooperatives with the present shareholders becoming either bond or loan holders and no say in the running of the company. Only those who work there would have any say in the direction of the company.

                • Why don’t workers just set up businesses like this? There’s nothing to stop them.

                  How many workers want to take on the responsibility of running the business they work for?

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    Why don’t workers just set up businesses like this? There’s nothing to stop them.

                    Yes there is. Several things in fact:
                    1.) Finances (this is systemic – our entire system is against it)
                    2.) Improper education
                    3.) Raised in an abusive and dysfunctional family (admittedly, 2 & 3 tend to go together)
                    and more that I just can’t think of right now.

                    How many workers want to take on the responsibility of running the business they work for?

                    I suspect more than most people realise.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      PG’s comments are those of someone completely ignorant of the power of corporate forces and big banking in our economy.

                      If he was serious about supporting small community owned businesses he would have more to offer us than “get to it then.”

            • Draco T Bastard 11.1.1.4.1.2

              I’m predominantly right wing but would have no issue voting labour, if they had decent right-wing people and policies.

              FTFY

              You’ll never vote anything other than radical right which means National or Act.

            • Clemgeopin 11.1.1.4.1.3

              Are you just thick or a complete idiot? The Labour party was formed for the betterment of the people and the country by the workers who were exploited by the wealthy. In the modern world, workers come from innumerable professions, not just miners etc that helped form the party in its beginning days. It is the Labour party principles, policies and programmes that has made New Zealand a better place for everyone, men and women, children and the elderly, employees and the employers, the unemployed and the poor, and even the rich pricks that now infest the greedy ungrateful right wing parties such as National and ACT that are spitting on the poor and the ordinary people with their unfair, unjust, selfish policies, while happily copying many of the great social policies of the last Labour government.

              But for the Labour’s socialist principles, you would be on pittance wages languishing on 12 hour days, women’s rights would be pretty much non existent like in some middle east countries, homophobia and discrimination would continue unabated etc, etc. Innumerable progress has been made and lots more needs to be done for justice, environment, equity, freedom, true prosperity etc

              Don’t bad mouth the Labour party, you nitwit.

      • miravox 11.1.2

        “Jones touted as the ‘champion’ of the blue collar workers by the media and the ever growing list of political commentators is a joke, and those touting Him as such an even worse joke,”

        He’d only be a class traitor if he was a blue collar worker. But he never was blue collar. Groomed as a future leader from a very early age, wasn’t he?

        Anyway as far as I’m concerned it’s a clean out out of the Labour right, who contradict L(l)abour ideals anyway.

        • BM 11.1.2.1

          Class traitor, phfft what a load of shit, you’re not Pomgolia now, we don’t do classes down here.

          This hang up you lefties have on putting people in boxes/classes is the reason why you’re failing.

          • Colonial Viper 11.1.2.1.1

            It’s a class war BM and you know that because you are one of its participants. An ongoing class war that the 1% who hold the largest share of capital wealth wages every day against the 99% who do not.

            You’re on a site with many who are well versed in political economics, so have some respect and please don’t treat the rest of us as ignorant.

            • BM 11.1.2.1.1.1

              It is not a class war, there will never be a class war in NZ.

              If you picked out 100 random people in the street and then told them we’re fighting a class war, they’d think you’re a complete lunatic that should be locked in a padded cell.

              • Colonial Viper

                “It is not a class war, there will never be a class war in NZ.”

                ROFL why are you still trying it on? When you are one of the participants in this very class war?

                Perhaps you should learn about NZ history, check out the great strike of 1913, also how the Liberal Government broke up all the large land holdings of the richest families in the 1890′s. And of course, the dispossesion of the entire working class in the 1980′s and 1990′s due to Rogernomics and Ruthanasia.

          • Draco T Bastard 11.1.2.1.2

            Class traitor, phfft what a load of shit, you’re not Pomgolia now, we don’t do classes down here.

            Really, and I could have sworn that we just had a couple of high-class bludgers go through NZ at our expense.

            This hang up you lefties have on putting people in boxes/classes is the reason why you’re failing.

            That has got to be psychological projection. It’s the left that are trying to break down the class barriers while the RWNJs always seem to be trying to build them up.

            • BM 11.1.2.1.2.1

              There are no classes to break down, do you not understand this?

              • Draco T Bastard

                Yes there are. there’s the rich, the middle class, the poor and now the precariat. Just because you want to deny reality and insist these classes don’t exist doesn’t make them any less true.

                • BM

                  But the poor can become middle class and the middle class can become rich.

                  Where are the barriers?

                  • Colonial Viper

                    Where are the barriers?

                    Debt peonage

                    Lack of cheap credit to start/expand your own business

                    Economic rentier behaviour from the 0.1% and corporatocracy

                    An economic and social system which inherently advantages white property owning males

                    • BM

                      Debt peonage

                      Examples?

                      Lack of cheap credit to start/expand your own business

                      last thing we need is under capitalized businesses starting up, fast way to the poor house

                      Economic rentier behaviour from the 0.1% and corporatocracy

                      Examples?

                      An economic and social system which inherently advantages white property owning males

                      it’s all the fault of white males, seriously?

                    • Colonial Viper

                      I’ve already given you the broad categories, look it up for yourself. Not your research service.

                      And I’ll add one more: deliberately reduced and declining income share of labour (i.e. workers) with respect to GDP, with the difference siphoned off to corporations and capitalist owners.

                  • felix

                    “But the poor can become middle class and the middle class can become rich.

                    Where are the barriers?”

                    Oh BM, I didn’t realise you were quite this lost. How do you think you’ll ever be rich without poor people?

                    • BM

                      But there’s no barriers if you want to make the effort, you may not succeed but the opportunity is there.

                    • Paul

                      No barriers at all.
                      Of course not BM

                      In their book on inequality The Spirit Level, British researchers Wilkinson and Pickett devote a whole chapter to showing the different ways that entrenched inequality reduces social mobility.

                      But you have researched this more of course by reading Slater’s opinion and then repeating it.

                      https://www.dur.ac.uk/resources/wolfson.institute/events/Wilkinson372010.pdf
                      http://norightturn.blogspot.com/2010/05/inequality-and-social-mobility.html

                    • felix

                      BM, would you like to address my question please?

                      How will you manage to be rich without poor people?

                    • freedom

                      “if you want to make the effort …. the opportunity is there.”

                      gee thanks BM,
                      I never knew the only reason I am poor, is I am lazy

                      In your world no rich person has ever actively worked against poor people doing better

                      know what?
                      for a guy who no-doubt imagines his initials stand for Big Man,
                      you sure do have a tiny mind.

                    • BM

                      There will always be poor people, it’s always been that way and always will.

                      How much money I make is irrelevant.

                    • McFlock

                      But there’s no barriers if you want to make the effort, you may not succeed but the opportunity is there.

                      [my emphasis]
                      lol
                      So even if you make an effort, you might remain poor? But there are no barriers?
                      Fuck you’re a slippery liar.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      “if you want to make the effort …. the opportunity is there.”

                      Ever play video games BM?

                      I ask coz there’s this thing on many of them in ‘settings’ where you can dial things up and down, and make the game easier.

                      You know?

                      Your dude might have more hit points, or it might make the enemies a bit dumber, or fewer, that sort of thing.

                      Imagine that in a multi-player game, and some folks get their settings set, by society, a bit easier on most of the settings. They will find it easier, and if they don;t get that are playing at an advantage, they are gonna think they are shit hot at this game.

                      Aren’t they?

                    • BM

                      Absolutely.
                      Many people have busted their nuts and never succeeded, that’s just how the game goes.

                      Maybe their idea was shit, maybe people didn’t want their product, maybe they ran out of money or the timing was wrong.

                      No one is ever guaranteed success.

                    • McFlock

                      So the poor can become middle class and the middle class can become rich, but even if the poor do everything right they might not succeed, in which case through no fault of their own they can’t become middle class / rich.

                      Are you suffering from severe cognitive dissonance, or are you just a shit liar?

                    • felix

                      Ooh ooh I know this one, he’s a shit liar McF.

                      He still won’t answer my q either: How can he be rich without poor people?

                      Who does he think is going to do the shit jobs? The other rich people? Good luck getting them to work for peanuts.

                      Fucking idiot liar.

                    • Descendant Of Sssmith

                      Cool BM will support 100% death duties and the law that makes it illegal to transfer your personal wealth to anyone else.

                      That way we all start with nothing and only the sum of our personal endeavors will get us anywhere.

                    • srylands

                      “Who does he think is going to do the shit jobs? ”

                      The failures. If we get rich enough the guest workers. You are being stupid.

                    • felix

                      Nope sryass, BM said the poor will become middle class, and then rich. So no more poor people.

                      You can’t have it both ways, dicks.

                • Colonial Viper

                  It’s in the interest of the Tories to pretend that they are not waging war against the under class and working class – stealth is the only way they can get away with it.

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    I know.

                  • srylands

                    That is ridiculous. The Government (I assume the “Tories” is some unheard of label you have for the New Zealand Government. Funny I thought it was some ancient English political faction) presides over a $27 billion welfare safety net. You are seriously deluded.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Hey Shitlands. All you’ve pointed out is that the Tories have some remnant electoral self preservation instinct. They know that they cannot dismantle the NZ welfare state expeditiously and have to instead dismantle it bit by bit, while demonising the vulnerable and the poor on the way. And your point is?

                      You are seriously deluded.

                      What’s a servant of the power elite like you who has never voted in NZ care anyway?

                    • McFlock

                      SSpylands, I have serious concerns about your memory. Your confusion about the word “tory” sounded familiar, and less that 30sec using the search box says you were taught about that word last September, and again in October. Try reading those comment branches again before (once again) removing all doubt as to your stupidity.

                      I’m especially concerned that such a stupid fucking idiot, as you obviously must be, claims to be/have been involved in formulation of government policy.

                      Perhaps that would explain why you are obviously unaware that the nats are destroying the $27bil welfare safety net loop by “application declined” loop.

                      Or maybe you think it’s a sophisticated distraction to plead ignorance about a two-syllable word and then argue that the fact the government hasn’t completely destroyed something means that the government must be actively preserving it. Well, an idiot feels compelled to double down on his own idiocy, I guess.

                    • felix

                      Oh god so stupid.

  12. a suggested sign-language-for-deaf ‘sign’ for ‘shane jones’:

    ..a rhythmic half-closed-fist hand-motion should do it/the trick..

  13. Not a PS Staffer 14

    Politics is hard mistress. I just watched the David Cunliffe interview on the Paul Henry Show from Tuesday night. Respect! Respect! David was very calm despite the best efforts of that psychotic arse. I’ll bathe in Dettol!

  14. tricledrown 15

    Education
    The US middle class income falling faster than any OECD country WHy.
    Education has been identified as the cause of decline.
    Decline in Pisa scores directly related to decline in income.
    And we are adopting the same policies that have lead to this decline.

    • Chooky 15.1

      Yes as Kelvin Davis is a teacher …i would like to see/hear his views on Charter Schools and Standards Testing enunciated here for all to see/hear…just so we can have confidence in him.

      On the surface he looks like a very fortunate replacement for Shane

      btw….why is Morning Report bringing out Bassett….of ACT to criticise the Labour Party and Cunliffe….Bassett is an old ‘has been’ Rogernom….he is the last person who should be critiquing Labour and Cunliffe….he was part of the cabal that just about destroyed Labour

      ….what is Morning Report doing?…is it now a mouthpiece for ACT?

      ….that said I thought John Tamihere was very good ….cant he be brought back into the Labour Party fold?…he has done his time for his ‘crime’ insensitivity to women ( a crime many others have committed on the Left) ….and he was very popular on radio …he could be a big draw card for Neathandral Man …Labour working men.

      • David H 15.1.1

        What did you really expect when they put Espiner in there the other week. I have listened only once to Morning Report since he took over, it took me about 40 mins of Espiner to change the channel to something reasonable, like Radio Live.

    • Colonial Viper 15.2

      The US middle class income falling faster than any OECD country WHy.
      Education has been identified as the cause of decline.
      Decline in Pisa scores directly related to decline in income.

      Uh, you’re incorrect on this count, unfortunately. You’ve mistaken cause and effect.

      What getting a higher education means today in the USA is being highly qualifiedand stacking shelves or flipping burgers on the minimum wage, with a massive and unrepayable student loan.

      The true cause of the collapse of the US middle class is far more complex – and has to do with the power elite exporting all solid working class jobs out of the nation and then systematically destroying the value of peoples property and pension funds.

  15. Rogue Trooper 16

    ONE News headline ” Labour in damage control “:National a safe pair of hands “.
    “Labour party has definately been hurt”- Corinn Dann.
    yet “Jones often acted as a wedge between Labour and the Greens” , refused to work with Norman – Michael Parkin with a side order of Pagani spin, “it’s a warning sign”
    Gower- “…risks being punished in the polls.”

    Plenty of balance there was, Not!

    Further to the harms of fructose, The WHO new recommendations for daily sugar intake, 5% of total daily food intake. Equals about 6 teaspoons.
    If cut back, takes about four days of unsettling withdrawals.

    • bad12 16.1

      That doesn’t quite make sense, the WHO 5% of daily food intake that is, i would have to weigh my total food intake for a day,(which is probably a good idea to do for a week), but, am pretty sure that if liquids are included then the daily intake is over ‘ a kilo’,

      Me thinks i will do that starting next Monday, weighing both solid food and liquid intake to see what my normal diet weighs,(weekends are now the ‘fasting diet’ to keep the kilo’s falling off),

      Dieting is interesting, i have found that even the vege and fruit diet can add body weight, which suggests weight loss is more a matter of ‘how much’ of ‘anything’ is the key,

      Still think unless a ‘scientific case’ can be made for adding sugar to food can be made then Legislation is needed to have it removed from food items that are not classed specifically as sweets,or at the least, a large label being a requirement to show the number of spoons of sugar a serving of the product contains per serving,

      Last nights Third Degree was a shallow look at the other side of the health issue ‘fats’, i wasn’t impressed at all,

      Obviously the body ‘needs’ some fat/oil so as to be able to transport vital nutrients around the body which otherwise would simply be discharged via the liver down the toilet, i am though sticking with the view of good fats/bad fats…

      • Draco T Bastard 16.1.1

        Dieting is interesting, i have found that even the vege and fruit diet can add body weight, which suggests weight loss is more a matter of ‘how much’ of ‘anything’ is the key,

        Weight loss is more a question of getting some exercise.

      • Chooky 16.1.2

        @ bad 12

        molasses can be a good substitute for sugar cravings…this is all the minerals /vits etc left over from sugar refining…it is very strong but it can be put in gravies and cakes or on porridge..or just a tsp as a tonic…Red Seal Black Strap Molasses has for a few dollars… manganese( lots), magnesium(lots), iron, calcium( lots), sodium

        …a good book to get is : ‘Stay Healthy by Supplying Whats lacking in Your Diet’ by David Coorey….for $25..(NZ publishing House .Private Bag 12029, Tauranga…(Tel: 0800 140 141)

        ( it gives an index of health symptoms/deficiencies /foods that supply essential vits/minerals for these deficiences eg …advice for weight loss, diabetes, alcohol cravings ,eye sight , dementia, gout, migraines , chloresterol, osteoporosis, gum disease, chronic fatigue, tinnitus….etc.etc.).. you can be your own doctor before your symptoms get out of control…it is very budget friendly …i hardly ever see a doctor!..nor does my family)

        • bad12 16.1.2.1

          Lolz thanks Chooky, but, spending 25 bucks on a book here isn’t an option, i have tho Google as a friend and can find it all out from the basic to the uni studies online,

          Molasses sounds quite interesting and i will check out the cost on my next food forage in the supermarket, still sugar tho,(even tho it contains a good amount of those essential minerals), and, i have to watch total intake,

          That sugar craving at a certain point as you cut down is quite an acute one, psychological more than physical,(for me anyway), i have cut down from 2 teaspoons in my tea mug all the time to 1 teaspoon and then onto 1 teaspoon every fourth cuppa,

          My fruit intake has tho tripled from what has been the lifelong (bad) habit and there are plenty of sugars in fruit, weight has dropped to 95 kilo from 110 kilo at Christmas, i am tho doing mini crash diets on weekends to make up for my bad habit of making big yummy veg and fish meals and then scoffing the lot…

    • Draco T Bastard 16.2

      If cut back, takes about four days of unsettling withdrawals.

      And here’s me thinking that was just the lack of coffee.

  16. fisiani 17

    Political junkie question of the day.
    What do Dunedin North, Mangere Maungakiekie, Mt Albert, Rongotai, and the 7 Maori electorates have in common and why is this grim news for Labour?

    • fisiani 17.1

      2 hours and no one got it.
      These are the only constituencies where National lost the Party Vote.
      New Zealand is blue and will get even bluer.

      • Draco T Bastard 17.1.1

        Nope, you don’t get it – it’s no longer a two horse race an no party will be the sole inhabitant of government ever again.

        • fisiani 17.1.1.1

          No party has been the sole inhabitant of government for more than 20 years – National may have the numbers to be sole inhabitant in September but John Key will share government with willing support parties as he plans to win in 2017 and 2021 assuming we have a 4 year term by then.

          • Draco T Bastard 17.1.1.1.1

            National don’t like sharing power – that was why they took over Act. Sure, they still had to get UF and the mP on board but they knew that they’d be able to buy them up quite easily and that, once bought, they’d stay bought as the mP just proved.

  17. Sure, I think davis is better than jones by a country mile but…

    “It gives me a platform and the resources of an MP to campaign. Otherwise, I would have just been an unemployed bum trying to be a candidate. So it helps my profile and there are more opportunities to get in the media.”

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11243097

    yeah don’t want to be an ‘unemployed bum’ do we – not for the ‘headhunted by jones’ davis who wants to be the electorate mp by beating Hone.

    Sure, I think davis is better than jones by a country mile but…

    • Chooky 18.1

      …yes Davis needs to be open about what he stands for ..we need to get statements from him so he is on record

      Shane chose him…this is a worry!…also that he worked for the Ministry of Education, which has been hopelessly compromised by its Minister and ACT private company lobbyists for Charter Schools

      We dont want another new Trojan Horse in the Labour Party

      Cunliffe’s job is hard enough as it is….. with all the old Rogernomes guard still unretired

      • bad12 18.1.1

        My view, Davis stands for the Labour Party that represents the New Zealand middle class, full stop…

  18. Jim47 19

    Has labour got so desperate that they have to have children protest.
    Can they no longer find any adults to do their protesting.
    Perhaps they are getting ready with twelve year olds to try and win the 2022 election.
    Just saying.
    I am a pensioner and this time my vote is with national.

    [lprent: Looking at your email address, I'd have been surprised if you'd ever voted for anyone apart from National and/or Act.

    In my experience, Labour and the left usually manages to turn out thousands for their larger protests when the right and National can usually turn out mere handfuls. So I'd suspect that the reason that children were turning out would probably have something to do with how whatever it is affects them.

    However, putting a link or even a reference into the story you're talking about would probably help people with understanding what you are indignant about. I currently have no idea and your comment gives no hint. Please try to do better next time.

    Could someone help this guy out. ]

    • Molly 19.1

      I don’t know whether anyone could help Jim47, given that he has obviously had 65 years to sort himself out, and this is the best he can do.

      However, I think he is referring to the story mentioned above by both karol and bad12, regarding the egging of the PM’s car in Maraenui.

      Jim47 seems to believe from this article that it was a Labour Party – day out holiday activity for the kiddies. Reading comprehension levels shown by his comment indicate that it is probably fairly unlikely that any written comment “helping him out” will do much to change his mind.

      After all, his vote is with National.

      • bad12 19.1.1

        Well put Molly, Jim47 is obviously an idiot by design or genetic irresponsibility on the part of other’s,

        The kids involved in giving Slippery the Prime Minister ‘the message’ were all locals who fully understand what is happening as the PM and un-Housing Minister Smith re-arrange the deck chairs of the HousingNZ estate using the publicity of the mass media to mask the 20%–42.5 billion dollar asset sale they are attempting by flogging off the housing of the poorest in our communities,

        The State Houses bowled over to make way for the ‘pensioner housing’ would have previously housed their cousins and friends so on whatever level they understand what is occurring understand it they do,

        The only visible political presence at this protest,was that of the Mana Party…

  19. Paul 20

    Real important news as opposed to the Jones beat up.
    Wonder what people think of Key and his crew as their mortgages rise.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11243323

    • bad12 20.1

      Lolz the Bank Robbery of the century, with inflation at a miserly 1.5% the Reserve Bank Governor in an act of ”kill it befor it grows” kneecaps the economy and acts to profit the Trading Banks with windfall profits of billions of dollars in added interest payments…

    • Puckish Rogue 20.2

      Meh, mortgage rates rise and mortgage rates fall

      • Draco T Bastard 20.2.1

        When there’s no reason for them to have interest rates on at all. No loans should have interest on them.

        • Colonial Viper 20.2.1.1

          +1

          • Paul 20.2.1.1.1

            Even if some people aren’t concerned by the rise in interest rates, Stuff’s website shows one of its notorious polls, just putting its foot in the water for the elite, as it knows damn well that people struggling to pay their mortgages is electoral poison.
            http://www.stuff.co.nz/

            BTW The wording of these polls is appalling.

            Will higher interest rates hurt you?
            Yes, I’m not happy
            No, I planned for them
            Bring them on, I’m a saver

        • freedom 20.2.1.2

          I disagree there Draco, assuming you are talking about NZ printing our own cash not continuing to borrow from the Central Banks.

          If a 1% interest rate was levied on all loans from the Government to home owners, new business ventures etc, then that is another stable resource for making contributions to the UBI fund. Of course this is in addition to the % taken by the Robin hood Tax when the loan is made operational.

          • Draco T Bastard 20.2.1.2.1

            You’re still working with the false assumption that the government needs a source of income. It doesn’t. The repayment of a loan is nothing more than the removal of money that has been injected into the economy so as to maintain the apparent value of money.

            • freedom 20.2.1.2.1.1

              Not sure I am completely clear on your endgame there Draco.

              No taxes of any sort?
              How does Government function without an income? Do Governments just print money with no controls at all? That is what the central Banks do now and look where that has gotten us.

              How do roads get built?
              How does Healthcare function?
              Education?
              Civil Defence?
              Police and the Military ?? (if we still have to have them :) )

              I must be missing something obvious …
              (no-job stress has me missing sleep, I know that much )

              Yes money is a lie and interest compounds that lie.
              Yes together they are a powerful force but it does not have to be a destructive force.

              As I said, maybe I have misunderstood what you mean.

              • Draco T Bastard

                No taxes of any sort?

                No, there’d still be taxes.

                How does Government function without an income? Do Governments just print money with no controls at all?

                It’s not a question of functioning without an income but realising that taxes are solely the destruction of money already created and spent into the economy by government. And, yes, there would be rules.

                How do roads get built?
                How does Healthcare function?
                Education?
                Civil Defence?
                Police and the Military ?

                The same way that they do now – by paying the people doing them.

                • freedom

                  (excuse the delay in responding Draco, I had stuff to do)

                  Originally you were talking about interest not being needed.
                  “When there’s no reason for them to have interest rates on at all. No loans should have interest on them.”
                  “The repayment of a loan is nothing more than the removal of money that has been injected into the economy so as to maintain the apparent value of money.”

                  You then seemed to shift the same idea onto taxes.
                  “realising that taxes are solely the destruction of money already created and spent into the economy by government”

                  In any economy, taxes and interest are not really the same thing.

                  “You’re still working with the false assumption that the government needs a source of income.” Taxes are Government income. As much as created or borrowed funds are.

                  The not repaying loans idea is pretty out there, I just do not see how an economy functions that way. Governments supply new money, check. It gets distributed into the economy via bank loans, mortgages etc, check. . . .and then what?
                  It just doesn’t get repaid ?

                  • Draco T Bastard

                    In any economy, taxes and interest are not really the same thing.

                    Good job I didn’t treat them as being the same then. Repayment of the loan does not include interest – that’s added on top in the present system and I’ve specifically said that loans won’t have interest.

                    The not repaying loans idea is pretty out there, I just do not see how an economy functions that way. Governments supply new money, check. It gets distributed into the economy via bank loans, mortgages etc, check. . . .and then what?
                    It just doesn’t get repaid ?

                    Well, you certainly didn’t get that from me either. Nowhere did I say that the money wouldn’t be removed from the system afterwards. All, I’ve said is that there was no need of interest and that there shouldn’t be any interest charged. In fact, you even quoted the bit where I said it would be returned/removed/destroyed.

      • ianmac 20.2.2

        When Interest Rates are low, Key/English trumpet their clever stewardship.
        When Interest Rates rise it is the independent Reserve Bank’s work.
        Funny that?

        • Puckish Rogue 20.2.2.1

          You mean like Clark and Cullen when the global market was booming? Its what politicians do on both sides

          • Draco T Bastard 20.2.2.1.1

            Can’t recall Labour ever boasting about low interest rates but I can remember them saying that the interest rates weren’t up to them due to the RBNZ being independent and the rates were the result of the market. I don’t think many people bought it though as most were already starting to realise that the market was code for the rich getting richer at everyone else’s expense.

    • Jackal 20.3

      The OCR increasing 3% won’t just hurt those who already have mortgages, it will lock many middle income home buyers out of the market. Also, the amount of mortgagee auctions will likely continue to increase under this regime.

      People having less money to spend will assuredly slow the economy, which is only showing signs of recovery because commodity prices have increased. Increased spending is a result of things costing more, not because people are buying more. A lack of competition in the retail sector will also effect the housing bubble in a bad way because people won’t be able to save for a deposit on their first home.

      Along with the 20% lending criteria, an already slowing market and unprecedented overinflation, now is clearly not the right time to be locked into a mortgage. Such assets will not be liquid because many thousands of Kiwis will be trapped renting forever.

      If some better policies aren’t implemented soon, homeowners and investors will start to lose equity and our housing stock will be further degraded. In the long run that won’t benefit anybody, not even the speculators.

  20. Paul 21

    If you prefer discussing the continuing evidence of climate change and our governments failure to amend our policies to avoid this, read this
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/science/9973720/Taupo-sized-iceberg-B-31-on-the-move

    Or you could talk to Pete about totaras..,..

    • Colonial Viper 21.1

      “policies” have a very limited role in halting climate change when a centuries worth of built economic and logistical infrastructure of your entire country is predicated on fossil fuels.

  21. Puckish Rogue 22

    I wonder what the rest of the Labour MPs are thinking about Jones leaving, I mean it must be pretty gutting knowing that National think that Jones is such a big threat that they create a job for him but for every other Labour MP theres nothing :)

    • Draco T Bastard 22.1

      Apparently, They didn’t think Jones was a big threat – they thought, and still think, of him as a good friend.

      • Puckish Rogue 22.1.1

        Of course he was a threat, waitakere man and all that. He was smart, spoke well and appealed to a cross-section of people and National took out one of Labours weapons

        Well played National

        • lprent 22.1.1.1

          Of course he was a threat…

          Mostly to Labour as far as I could tell from his screwups.

          • Puckish Rogue 22.1.1.1.1

            Yeah of course because Jones was responsible for:

            The baby bonus debacle
            The power generation announcement dogs breakfast
            Keys leafy suburb botch up
            Cunliffes secret trusts
            Nigella Lawson

            Just as an example

    • at this stage..p.r..

      ..it wd seem jones was the only(?) labour mp..in their pocket..

      ..’their’ man/mole in labour….

      ..and i am sure many labour mp’s are glad this embarassment has sprayed his way off the stage..

      • BM 22.2.1

        Wouldn’t be surprised if Shearer exits stage right.

        Maybe sometime in June?

        • Draco T Bastard 22.2.1.1

          That’d be another plus for labour but I doubt if he will. He actually seems to want to do something about poverty unfortunately he still thinks capitalism can.

      • Puckish Rogue 22.2.2

        The only Labour MP deemed a threat, he probably could have gone toe to toe with Key in the debates but we’ll never know now

        • phillip ure 22.2.2.1

          jones wouldn’t have gone ‘toe to toe’ with key..

          ..it’d be more lips (attached firmly) to arse…

          ..with key as the receiver..

        • bad12 22.2.2.2

          Drivel, 5 and a half years of Opposition and all Jones has come out with is a rave about supermarkets which the Commerce Commission is likely to have the final say of ”nothing to see here folks”, on,

          Jones is gone, good riddance, a waste of space in every sense of the word…

        • felix 22.2.2.3

          “The only Labour MP deemed a threat”

          Yeah, but weirdly the govt and the PM’s office spend all their time attacking Cunliffe and the Greens.
          :roll:

  22. Molly 23

    Revisiting the Fossil Fuel company contributions to global warming printed by the Guardian some months ago (noted by a Standardista), and thought to have a look at what other graphics may have been produced.

    They were working on an Open Corporates map, one that shows the complex web of company ownership and control on a global scale. One problem is that small countries often were the best locations for companies to operate from, and so would have too much overlap when plotting companies. Their solution: to upscale the country in a honeycomb fashion to indicate the company’s presence there.

    I had a look at Goldman Sachs – on their live version which was produced in UK summer of 2013, and was surprised to the relative size of NZ.

    (To see the chain of ownership, just hover over one of the companies (circles) on the map)

  23. aerobubble 24

    We discover now that ACC, Collins, thinks people having accidents is a choice. We’ve understood for sometime now that Bennett believes people choose unemployment and under-employment. How
    long is it before Key believes, like ACT, that proportionality is wrong in sentencing, and retrospective laws are all okay.

    It beggars belief that any liberty loving citizen could vote for this far right government and not vomit in shame.

  24. Clemgeopin 25

    Referring to Jones, Mr Cunliffe stated that when a totara falls, other totara will grow in its place. Mr Parekura Horamia was a true totara. To me, Jones is no totara. In my opinion he has instead just shown himself to be a farterer creating bad stink.

  25. Morrissey 26

    Why you should NOT wear a red poppy
    Far from apologizing, the RSA ran poems in its magazine praising this….

    In late 1918, after the war had ended, New Zealand and Australian soldiers rounded up more than one hundred boys and men in the Palestinian village of Surafend, then methodically clubbed them to death…..
    http://alh-research.tripod.com/Light_Horse/index.blog?topic_id=1115959

    • Blue 26.1

      This is one of many reasons people should wear a red poppy.
      http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/le-quesnoy/the-liberation-of-le-quesnoy.

      Courage takes many forms , being a keyboard warrior isn’t one of them.

      • JAK 26.1.1

        I asked my uncle about the first world war and he talked about the horses.
        I don’t remember exactly what he said, but it was along the lines that they shot horses who were stuck or could no longer pull the guns and he thought it was wrong that animals who had nothing to do with the war were made to suffer and die, while men who could choose did the goading and the killing.
        I don’t remember him going to Anzac Day Parades or wearing the red poppy, and he never showed me his medals.

        • Colonial Viper 26.1.1.1

          Yep. Let us remember…the sheer brutality and utter inhumanity of outright warfare, where it is virtually always the civilians and the children who suffer the most egregious crimes.

      • Morrissey 26.1.2

        Something calling itself “Blue” seemed just a tad bewildered the day before Anzac Day.

        This is one of many reasons people should wear a red poppy.
        http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/war/le-quesnoy/the-liberation-of-le-quesnoy.

        My post was not about Le Quesnoy, it was about something altogether different: the rounding up and murder of more than one hundred unarmed men and boys in the village of Surafend. And the fact that the RSA’s magazine ran poems PRAISING the massacre.

        Courage takes many forms , being a keyboard warrior isn’t one of them.

        And rounding up civilians and battering them to death certainly is not courageous.

        Or perhaps “Blue” thinks those Anzac murderers and the others who said nothing were courageous?

  26. Morrissey 27

    Blair’s anti-democratic tirade
    by SEUMAS MILNE, The Guardian
    Wednesday 23 April 2014

    The neocons are back. That toxic blend of messianic warmongering abroad and McCarthyite witch-hunting at home – which gave us Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantánamo and the London bombings – is coursing through our public life again. Yesterday the liberal interventionists’ hero, Tony Blair, was once more demanding military action against the “threat of radical Islam”.

    Reprising the theme that guided him and George Bush through the deceit and carnage of the “war on terror”, the former prime minister took his crusade against “Islamism” on to a new plane. The west should, he demanded, make common cause with Russia and China to support those with a “modern” view against the tide of political Islam.

    But he also demanded military intervention against Syria – backed by Russia – along with more “active measures” to help the armed opposition, which is dominated by Islamists and jihadists. It’s a crazy combination with an openly anti-democratic core: the Middle East peace envoy also warmly endorsed the Egyptian dictatorship, along with the repressive autocracies of the Gulf.

    Quite why the views of a man whose military interventions in the Muslim world have been so widely discredited, who has been funded by the Kazakhstan dictator and is regarded by up to a third of the British public as a war criminal, should be treated with such attention by the media isn’t immediately obvious. But one reason is that they chime with those of a powerful section of the political and security establishment.

    In Britain, the campaign against Islamist “extremism” is once again in full flow. In fact, it is open season on the Muslim community. For the past few weeks reports have multiplied about an alleged “Islamic plot”, code-named Operation Trojan Horse, to take control of 25 state schools in Birmingham and run them on strict religious principles.

    The education secretary, Michael Gove, a long-time neoconservative supporter of Blair’s wars and Islamist witchfinder general, responded by sending in an army of inspectors to hunt down extremists and appointing….

    Read more….
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/23/war-islamism-hatred-violence-blair-cameron-toxic

  27. logie97 28

    So Jones is off to help the Pacific Islands exploit the fish that swim in “their” waters.
    When is this organism – homo sapiens – going to understand that it does not have domain over
    and automatic right to gather the creatures of the sea?

    • Draco T Bastard 28.1

      When are we going to realise that we can’t extract wealth from the environment without consequences?

    • Blue 28.2

      The Treaty of Waitangi begs to differ

    • Roflcopter 28.3

      So you’ll be wanting to ban dolphins then?

      • logie97 28.3.1

        No problem with people catching fish off the rocks but once they put to sea in boats …
        I look forward to viewing your link showing where any cetacean comes ashore to pillage the land! :roll:

      • felix 28.3.2

        Roflcopter, what makes you think dolphins don’t have domain over
        and automatic right to gather the creatures of the sea?

        What a bizarre thing to suggest.

  28. RedBaronCV 29

    Just looking at ministerial expenses. Thanks No right turn. Why on earth doesn’t the NZ government have a blanket no alcohol policy. If you want to drink, you pay for it yourself. I’m sure other governments would be delighted to get their people back alcohol free.
    For example Tim Grosser went to the Atlantic on the 9th Oct 13 for a “working dinner” food was $678 and drinks $433 the bulk of which was alcohol.How much much work was likely to be done when drinking.
    And in New York he appears to be spending about $300 for three bottles of wine. And in July his P/S ( private secretary ) had lunch at the Circa Foggy Bottom. Near headquarters perhaps?

    • Tigger 29.1

      +1. MPs should lead then spread it right through government. They’re always looking to save money. Here’s an idea.

  29. Rosie 30

    Apologies if it’s has already been noted (I haven’t been around for the last two days since the news of Jone’s departure has hit) but aren’t the right getting all frothy about it?

    The RWNJ’s have come out from under their damp logs en masse to comment here, the media are spinning so hard that they could collectively, if connected to a generator power a large city (Just one example among many, from yesterday: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9968055/Jones-job-offer-not-shot-at-Labour-PM ) and the real life righties are agog.

    The real life examples:

    Discussion with visitor, a former ACT Party member and National voter on the topic of Shane Jone’s decision to leave, their view: ” I’m really disappointed, Shane Jones was the only decent down to earth one among the lot of them”…………Fine if you like misogynist corporate lobbyists, oh, right, you do………

    And this little gem seen one an outdoor cafe blackboard in the Ohariu electorate: “Shane Jones: A loss to us all”. This guys’ not taking the piss. Its the same business owner that had “The jury is always right” written on his blackboard the day after Clint Rickards was not found guilty of rape in 2006 and once had a sign saying “if you don’t want to pay the surcharge on public holidays turn around and leave now”. (Touching that Jone’s inspired such sorrow in such a RWNJ’s heart)

    What’s got them so ruffled? The prospect of a Labour Green led government advancing forward after 20th September, unencumbered by Jones, no longer there to “keep the Greenies in check”? I guess they are scared………….

    • Puckish Rogue 30.1

      “I guess they are scared………….”

      I am very scared at the thought of the Greens anywhere near finance books. Labour near the books is not so bad but the Greens will wreck this country quicker then you can say green economy

      • Rosie 30.1.1

        Lol you PR. If you’re scared (of your imagination telling you “the Greens will wreck this country…) does that mean you have reason to expect that there will be a win for the Left and the Natz will be out?

        • Puckish Rogue 30.1.1.1

          “does that mean you have reason to expect that there will be a win for the Left and the Natz will be out?”

          I expect National regain power (in fact I’d bet on it but most of the people on here are gutless so no one would take it) however a Labour/greens win is of course always a possibility

      • phillip ure 30.1.2

        “..I am very scared..”

        i hope you make sure to check under yr bed before retiring of an evening..

        ..just to be sure..!

      • Paul 30.1.3

        I’d be more worried by these jokers remaining in power.
        Gradually indebting the country to foreign interests.
        And yet you slavishly support them pr.
        Pathetic, really.

        “Government debt has reached $60 billion, having climbed $27 million a day since John Key became prime minister – and forecasts show it will rise for years to come.
        Despite tax revenue being higher than expected and expenses lower in recent months, Treasury figures show net Crown debt reached the highest yet at $60,015,000,000 at the end of September.
        It already equates to 28 per cent of New Zealand’s economic output, is more than $13,000 for every person in New Zealand and is forecast to climb by another $10b by 2017.
        When National took control of the Beehive in 2008, debt was just over $10b.”

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9380846/Public-debt-climbs-by-27m-a-day

    • Draco T Bastard 30.2

      What’s got them so ruffled?

      I think it’s because they know that Labour is more electable without Jones in it.

      • Puckish Rogue 30.2.1

        Its not ruffled, its the right trying to spread dissent so that less people will vote for Labour with the end effect being National regaining power.

        • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 30.2.1.1

          …because an approach of winning on merit just wouldn’t work for crap-policies-and-no-friends-National
          ….and spreading dissent is the only way they can get votes -that is by creating disharmony amongst us is it not?

          ‘Vote for National and have an increasingly divided country.’

          Sounds about Right.

          Great stuff National.

          • Puckish Rogue 30.2.1.1.1

            National in power is whats best for NZ so National will do what it needs to do to win, Labour will attempt to do what it needs to do to win (it will fail though)

            Thats politics

        • Rosie 30.2.1.2

          “its the right trying to spread dissent so that less people will vote for Labour”

          Aha! Which comes back to being scared. Or at least a bit anxious and uncomfortable about the possibility of a Left win, which you do admit above, could happen.

          I expect it could happen too, especially if UF, ACT and Maori fail to prop up the Natz.

      • Rosie 30.2.2

        Yep Drax, they know and we know it. The brakes are off.

      • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 30.2.3

        +100 DTB

  30. fisiani 31

    Why does the side banner record the amount of sunshine? Seems banal.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 31.1

      Monkey clicky linky?

      The earth has warmed rapidly over the past century due mainly to human activity, and especially over the past few decades. The increased greenhouse effect has warmed the land and air and melted ice, but most of it (about 90%) has gone into heating the oceans. Several Skeptical Science contributors worked together to publish a scientific paper1 which combined the land, air, ice, and ocean warming data. It found that for recent decades the earth has been heating at a rate of 250 trillion Joules per second.

      “Joules per second” is a difficult unit of measure to appreciate, and is especially foreign to people who are unfamiliar with science. This widget attempts to put that heating into terms that are easier to visualize. 250 trillion Joules per second is equivalent to:

      Detonating four Hiroshima atomic bombs per second
      Experiencing two Hurricane Sandys per second
      Enduring four 6.0 Richter scale earthquakes per second
      Being struck by 500,000 lightning bolts per second
      Exploding more than eight Big Ben towers, with every inch packed full of dynamite, per second

      Is “joules per second” too hard for you, Fisiani? That why they make picture books and widgets. Now remember to use your manners and say thank you.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 31.2

      Odd – comment disappeared: wordpress says “looks like you’ve already said that” but still no sign of it.

      In any case, click through the link in the banner for the explanation Fisi.

      Or, the short explanation: that “joules/second” is too hard for some monkeys to grasp so we made this widget to help them.

  31. idlegus 32

    sorry, couldnt reply to BM above. not all of us want to be rich, some of us like working for a wage, i enjoy my job. but that doesn’t mean i should get shit wages &/or job insecurity. there’s got to be a better way of structuring wealth & work, so people can earn decent wages & the bosses still get to buy their convertables for their latest barbie girl etc…

    • logie97 32.1

      Yeah and it’s a curious one that the establishment applies to the teaching profession, particularly primary level. Apparently the meme is that individuals enter teaching for the love of it and not for the money. This has been twisted to, “We don’t have to pay them much because they do it for love.”

      • idlegus 32.1.1

        same with the aged care workers, & nurses i imagine, where a lot of work gets done not because they get paid for it but because they care, they will go the extra mile & help each other out. must run into the millions this unpaid work ppl do.

        • Draco T Bastard 32.1.1.1

          It’s pretty much across every sector. If you love you’re work you’ll get paid less and no employer will hire anybody who doesn’t love the work and they won’t hire you if you show no enthusiasm for working for the company either.

          The ways and means of control are numerous.

  32. I sent an email to David Cunliffe and am interested in his reply. I wanted to know what his motives are for repairing the Gisborne/Napier rail if elected. There are concerns among the locals in Gisborne that Labour are using this to get Napier votes. Many locals here feel he wants to take a piece of Gisborne’s booming forestry to create opportunities for Napier. Unfortunately for us, this means making Napier Port busy, creating large volumes of logs for them. It seems a cynical move by Labour, compounded by the fact Mr Cunliffe and Ms Mackey are silent on the issue, declaring they want to open up the Gisborne to Napier rail line without properly explaining how it will benefit Gisborne. I am a Labour voter but personally I agree with National (which I have never done before) that it is not viable enough and will cost millions to repair the damaged line. It also hits home as we are employees in the forestry industry here, the good wages help us enjoy a reasonable quality of life and we can give our kids opportunities. I hope Mr Cunliffe can assure us that our jobs and our Eastland Port are not at threat and will not be impacted by diverting logs directly to Napier, affecting employees whom service those logs here.

    • Ad 33.1

      Napier port has far superior log handling and storage facilities than Gisborne. Major shipping lines actually stop in Napier. The rail line is no threat to the jobs from the forests.

      The alternative of no rail line is all those logging trucks going onto the highway on High Volume trailer trucks – which is dangerous and expensive. That highway maintenance and safety cost falls on us taxpayers. By rail that cost falls where it should onto the logging companies.

      Remember when there was a rail station and jobs in Gisborne? Time to bring those jobs back.

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  • The Greens Are Deep In Dirty Politics
    I have a confession, as a Green candidate I too have been involved in some dirty politics and it has been filthier than many would expect.I had someone contact me recently because of his concern about poor service from an...
    Local Bodies | 31-08
  • Pop-up Tea Shop
    Rose and vanilla tea, complete with cosy, and accompanied by old-fashioned carrot cake, Pop-up Tea Shop, August 31 2014This post is part of the 100 Days ProjectDay 52Some enterprising people ran a pop up tea shop in the Grey Lynn...
    Notes from the edge | 31-08
  • Collins gets a cheer
    This post is part of the 100 Days Project Day 51I was in my hairdresser's making an appointment today and the owner was on reception, so we got to shooting the sh*t a little, as you do.  Things turned political and...
    Notes from the edge | 31-08
  • When someone you care about goes left
    This post is part of the 100 Days ProjectDay 46I wrote earlier about how you get the chance to become a better person when someone you care about has a different political perspective, because this forces you to you listen...
    Notes from the edge | 31-08
  • John Key’s Top 69 Lies: Today no. 20 – The All Blacks would take do...
     John Key news conference 18 August 2014 Election 2014 Fact or Fiction?    Prime Minister John Key has made the  claim in relation to Dirty Politics. Asked about allegations that the National Party had been involved in gaining access to the Labour...
    Arch Rival | 31-08
  • 2014 SkS Weekly Digest #35
    SkS Highlights Nichael J.I. Brown's guest post, What I learned from debating science with trolls attracted the highest number of comments of the articles posted on SkS during the past week. Many commenters provided their own example of lessons learned. The post...
    Skeptical Science | 31-08
  • Poll of Polls update – 31 August 2014
    The latest One News Colmar Brunton poll has just been released, and there’s some interesting results there. National drop 2%, down to 48%. That’s on top of the 2% they dropped in the mid-August Colmar Brunton poll. On the left,...
    Occasionally erudite | 31-08
  • UKIP set to hammer Tories
    Douglas Carsewell stunned the British political establishment last week.Not by defecting to the UKIP - who cares how right wing fruitcakes arrange themselves? - but by doing the honourable thing and resigning his seat so he can legitimately continue to...
    Left hand palm | 31-08
  • Carbon
    CARBON is the first film in the Green World Rising Series.“Carbon” is narrated by Leonardo DiCaprio, presented by Thom Hartmann and directed by Leila Conners. Executive Producers are George DiCaprio, Earl Katz and Roee Sharon Peled. Carbon is produced by...
    The Jackal | 31-08
  • The National Party, Integrity and John Phillip Key
    There have been a few things floating around in my head over the last week. I’ve started this post several times and deleted it as I tried to gather those thoughts together into some kind of coherent narrative. Following the...
    My Thinks | 31-08
  • A Wicked Web Is Uncovered
    Following image is from the good work of some of the folks on the Facebook Page – ‘John Key Has Let NZ Down’ – you can request membership HERE...
    An average kiwi | 31-08
  • Matthew Hooton’s assertions re the Prime Minister’s Office
    ‘Explosive’ is one of those words that gets kicked around in politics and political reporting to the point where it’s almost lost its meaning. But it’s not an exaggeration to describe right wing spin doctor and self-declared National Party loyalist...
    The Paepae | 31-08
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Speech to Canterbury Chamber of Commerce
    Today I'm going to talk about our policy package to upgrade and grow our economy and how we turn that growth into a foundation for a decent and fair society. But first I want to address the issue of our...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Commission of Inquiry must have bipartisan support
    The Labour Party is drafting terms of reference for a Commission of Inquiry, Labour’s Shadow Attorney-General David Parker says. “It is abundantly clear there is a need for an independent Commission of Inquiry, chaired by a High Court Judge, into...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Rapid Transit to unclog Christchurch
    Labour will build a 21st century Rapid Transit system for Christchurch, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The long delayed recovery of Christchurch hinges on a modern commuter system for the city. “We will invest $100 million in a modern rail plan...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s commitment to public broadcasting
    A Labour Government will set up a working group to re-establish a public service television station as part of our commitment to ensuring New Zealand has high quality free-to-air local content. “We will set up a working group to report...
    Labour | 31-08
  • A new deal for the conservation estate
    The health of our economy depends on New Zealand preserving and restoring our land, air, water and indigenous wildlife, says Labour’s Conservation spokesperson Ruth Dyson. Announcing Labours Conservation policy, she said that there will be a comprehensive plan to restore...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s plan to end homelessness
    Labour has a comprehensive approach to end homelessness starting with the provision of emergency housing for 1000 people each year and putting an end to slum conditions in boarding houses, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes that homelessness is not...
    Labour | 30-08
  • Labour: A smarter approach to justice
    A Labour Government will improve the justice system to ensure it achieves real public safety, provides equal access to justice and protects human rights, Labour’s Justice spokesperson Andrew Little says. “Our approach is about tackling the root causes of crime, recognising...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Labour to foster Kiwi love of sport and the great outdoors
    A Labour Government will promote physical activity, back our top athletes and help foster Kiwis’ love of the great outdoors by upgrading tramping and camping facilities. Trevor Mallard today released Labour’s sports and recreation policy which will bring back a...
    Labour | 29-08
  • Pacific languages recognised under Labour
    Labour will act to recognise the five main Pacific languages in New Zealand including through the education system, said Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. Announcing Labour’s Pacific Island policy he said that there must be a strong commitment to...
    Labour | 29-08
  • No healthy economy without a healthy environment
    Labour recognises that we cannot have a healthy economy without a healthy environment, says Environment spokesperson Moana Mackey announcing Labour’s environment policy. “New Zealand’s economy has been built on the back of the enormous environmental wealth we collectively enjoy as...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Better protection, fairer deal for Kiwi consumers
    Tackling excessive prices, ensuring consumers have enough information to make ethical choices and giving the Commerce Commission more teeth are highlights of Labour’s Consumer Rights policy. “The rising cost of living is a concern for thousands of Kiwi families. A...
    Labour | 28-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki Annette Sykes, Waia...
    Media are advised that this coming weekend, the MANA Movement Candidate for Waiariki, Annette Sykes, will be on the Internet MANA Road Trip within the electorate of Waiariki. Speakers confirmed are Annette Sykes, Hone Harawira, John Minto, Laila Harre and Kim...
    Mana | 27-08
  • Internet MANA – Waiariki Road Trip: 29, 30, 31 Aug 2014
    The Internet MANA Road Trip hits Waiariki this weekend. It would be great if all MANA members in Waiariki could especially attend the public meetings and show their support for our Waiariki candidate Annette Sykes. Confirmed speakers Hone Harawira (except Taupo), Annette...
    Mana | 27-08
  • First home buyers $200 a week better off with Labour
    A couple earning around $75,000 a year would be $200 a week better off buying a two bedroom terraced Labour KiwiBuild home instead of an equivalent new build under National’s housing policy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe.  “National’s policy to...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Another Day – Another big power profit
    The latest profit announcement from Genesis Energy shows that the power company was sold for a song to the detriment of the country’s power consumers, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “A net profit of $ 49.2 million follows hard...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour embraces the rainbow
    Labour will work hard to ensure all New Zealanders enjoy the freedom to grow up and live their lives in dignity and security. Labour’s Rainbow policy, released tonight in Wellington, focuses on International Relations, Human Rights and Education....
    Labour | 26-08
  • National gets fast and loose with the facts
    In their desperation to make it look as though they are doing something about the housing crisis, National is playing fast and loose with the facts, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour will drop power prices for Kiwi families
    New Zealanders will get cheaper power prices under NZ Power, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The electricity market is clearly broken. With falling demand for electricity, prices should be going down. Instead prices are going up and companies are extracting...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Labour: Promoting sustainable tourism
    Ensuring New Zealand’s clean, green status continues to be an international tourism benchmark and reviewing MBIE’s oversight of the tourism sector will be on the radar under a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Tourism policy today, spokesperson Darien Fenton said tourism...
    Labour | 26-08
  • Skills shortage a result of National’s complacency
    The fact that there is still a severe shortage of skilled tradespeople, despite a growth in the number of apprentices, is a result of National’s failure to plan and develop the workforce, Grant Robertson, Labour Employment, Skills and TrainingSpokesperson says."The...
    Labour | 26-08
  • How much tax does John Key pay compared to a minimum wage worker?? – Mint...
    MANA Movement Economic Justice spokesperson John Minto is calling for a radical overhaul of New Zealand’s taxation system with calculations showing that a minimum wage worker pays a ten times higher tax rate than the Prime Minister. o Minimum wage...
    Mana | 25-08
  • Labour’s culture of science and innovation
    Labour will create a culture of science and innovation in New Zealand that will be the envy of the world, says Labour’s Innovation, Research and Development spokesperson Megan Woods. “Labour believes that good science lies at the heart of a...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Improving life for our new New Zealanders
    New Zealand’s international standing as a community that encourages and fosters all cultures will be bolstered under a Labour Government with an upgrade of the present Office of Ethnic Affairs to a Ministry. Releasing Labour’s Ethnic Affairs policy, spokesperson Phil...
    Labour | 25-08
  • South Auckland housing crisis
    National’s HomeStart package is nothing more than a political stunt designed to beguile South Auckland voters, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio. “Few working Pasifika and Maori workers in South Auckland will be able to buy their own...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Home buyer subsidy discredited in Oz
    Treasury advised against National’s policy of ramping up home buyer subsidies after it was discredited in Australia because it pushed house prices even higher, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “Documents released under the OIA (attached) show Treasury advised the...
    Labour | 25-08
  • Nursing hours explain turnover and high-stress culture
    A staff survey supports concerns nursing staff at Dunedin Hospital are under increasing pressure and that the emergency department is in a critical state, says Labour’s Associate Health Spokesperson David Clark.  “An ED nursing survey at Dunedin found that 80...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Underhand tactics prove case for axing donations
    Revelations that schools are using underhand tactics to coerce donations from cash-strapped parents further highlights the need for Labour's plan to increase funding so they aren't dependent on contributions from parents, Labour's Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “By law New...
    Labour | 24-08
  • National applies band-aid to housing crisis
    The Government’s flagship housing announcement is a band-aid approach that will push up prices rather than solve the housing crisis, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “House sales to first home buyers have collapsed as a direct result of the Government’s...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Climate change focus on the now for the future
    A Labour Governmentwill put in place a comprehensive climate change strategy focusing on bothmitigation and adaptation, establish an independent Climate Commission andimplement carbon budgeting, says Labour Climate Change spokesperson MoanaMackey."This is about future-proofing our economy. Making the transition to alow-carbon...
    Labour | 24-08
  • Labour’s 21st century transport pledge
    The next Labour-led Government will create a 21st century transport system for New Zealand that promotes the most efficient and sustainable combination of transport options, says Labour’s Transport spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour will rebalance the Government's transport spending away from...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Housing under National: the facts
    1.       House prices in Auckland Council valuations indicate Auckland house prices have gone up by one-third over the last three years. (Auckland Council) The average Auckland house price has gone up by nearly $225,000 since 2008, up over $75,000 in...
    Labour | 23-08
  • Labour irons out low income tax issue
    The increasing casualisation of work has led to many New Zealand families being disadvantaged through the tax they pay, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. "Many low paid workers are having to work two or three jobs to make ends meet...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Petition for Governor General of New Zealand to Investigate all the allegat...
      Now we see the inquiry will be a whitewash, that is secret, won’t be consulted with the Opposition, will have limited scope and will ignore Nicky Hager’s book, we must demand the Governor General step in and demand an...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Ashburton, 1 September 2014
    I NEVER WENT BACK to Aramoana after the killing. I had been a frequent visitor to the tiny seaside village back in the late 1970s and throughout the 80s. Its tall cliffs and broad beaches providing a colourful backdrop to...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Checkmate in 1 move – how could Slater have known what was in OIA request...
    And now we get down to the final few moves before checkmate. If the following investigation is right, how could Slater and Collins have known what was in the Secret Intelligence Service Official Information Act request that hadn’t been released...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Of Jennifer Lawrence Without Consent
    Today the Edge website – owned by Media Works – published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent. It is not OK to publish naked media of any woman without her consent, full stop. It is absolutely disgusting...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate ...
    Bomber, Laila and Maggie – a highlight from Auckland Broadcasting Debate 2014...
    The Daily Blog | 01-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, how good was I i...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Maggie Barry slags Laila Harre & blogger, audience erupt
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting held their public meeting in Auckland last night and it became a fiery shouting match when Maggie Barry decided to slag Laila Harre and me off. 250 people packed into the Pioneer Hall off High...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • It has to be a full independent public inquiry and Key MUST front
      You know things are bad when images like this start appearing in the media.  It isn’t a ‘left wing conspiracy’ to point out the over whelming evidence of what is clearly a right wing conspiracy! If it looks like a conspiracy, sounds like a conspiracy...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Political Party social media stats – National playing Dirty Politics on s...
    Interesting data from friend of the blog, Marty Stewart, on social media likes and it shows an interesting question that post Dirty Politics should probably get asked…   …it’s interesting that Key has so many personal followers.  One wonders if...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • The depth of the National rot and the compliance of our news media
    I’m so tired. Aren’t you? I don’t want to read the news anymore. It’s awful and I feel ashamed of it. We live in a country that people all over the world would give an arm, a leg; their life...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Conservative Party candidate links smacking ban with suicide, sexually tran...
    If Chemtrails, faked moon landings and climate change denial weren’t enough, welcome to your new Minister for Spanking,  Edward Saafi... The anti-smacking law is to blame for youth suicide, youth prostitution and even sexually-transmitted infections, a leading Conservative party candidate...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on the canonisation of Matthew Hooton
    Before we all start the canonisation of Matthew Hooton, let’s consider some home truths here shall we? While the Wellington Ruminator Blog, the blog who was previously mates with Judith Collins, now seems to have a crush on Matthew Hooton… …I...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word on undercover cops in bars
    Dunedin police booze operation labelled ‘creepy’ Undercover police officers drank in Dunedin bars as part of an operation targeting liquor licensing offences. While police said the inaugural operation was a success — with most bars found compliant — the Hospitality...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Judith Collins press conference
    Judith Collins press conference...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Angry Lawyer – Collins, Odgers, Williams and legal ethics
    We deserve better lawyers than Judith Collins Three of the worst offenders exposed in Dirty Politics are lawyers: Judith Collins, Cathy Odgers, and Jordan Williams. What Nicky Hager exposed them doing would be out of line for anyone, but from...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Necessary Defence
    Increasingly climate change is becoming the main fracture line between political parties. Where political parties stand on climate change defines political parties and movements like no other issue. The Mana Movement like the Maori Party it sprang from, came out...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Why it is all over for John Key
    Image: Melanie D I’ve been confident that National will lose this election and that our focus should be on what a progressive Government needs to establish as its agenda in the first 100 days. Past that point, the establishment pushes back...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • A brief word to everyone who voted National in 2011
    I received this interesting email from a National Party supporter today… …let me say this to anyone who voted National last election – you should be ashamed by what has been revealed and what your vote ended up enabling but...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Déjà Vu All Over Again: John Ansell confirms his participation...
      THE MAN BEHIND the Iwi-Kiwi billboards that very nearly won the 2005 election for Don Brash and the National Party has confirmed his involvement in businessman John Third’s and former Act MP Owen Jennings’ campaign to drive down the...
    The Daily Blog | 31-08
  • Public Broadcasting Auckland debate 6.30pm tonight now with Colin Craig &am...
    The Coalition for Better Broadcasting debate on public broadcasting happens tonight at 6.30pm in Auckland at the Pioneer Women’s Hall, High Street, Auckland City.  In the light of Dirty Politics and the manipulation of the media, public broadcasting is more important for...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Winners & Losers in Collins sacking plus what’s the latest on Slater...
      Make no mistake, there was no way this was a resignation, it’s a face saving way out for Collins, she was sacked.  My understanding is that National internal polls are haemorrhaging and that the powers that be within National...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Third party propaganda attacks incoming Labour-led government
    . . Further to a report by Daily Blogger, Chris Trotter, on receiving information regarding planned attack-billboards, the following billboard is highly visible to traffic on the southbound lane of the Wellington motorway, just prior to the Murphy St turn-off....
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Labour wins the Internet
    I’m sure I’m not the only one who tried to vote online for the leaders debate and couldn’t because the website was down. The next option was the txt vote, 75c a pop of course. So I’m not surprised that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Rotherham and the need to challenge willful bl...
    I haven’t been following the events in Rotterham too closely.  I’ve read about the basic issues and the culture of silence that stopped action been taken even after complaints were made.  That culture of silence is incredibly familiar, and described...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Review: Hairspray
      Oh Hairspray! What fun! Somehow I managed to miss the movie when it came out, I had no idea really what it was about though I felt it had a vague relation to High School Musical. In retrospect, that...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • Mounting global pressure against Timor-Leste’s ‘death sentence’ media...
    East Timor’s José Belo … courageous fight against ‘unconstitutional’ media law.Image: © Ted McDonnell 2014 CAFÉ PACIFIC and the Pacific Media Centre Online posted challenges to the controversial ‘press law’ nine months ago when it emerged how dangerous this draft...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Spies, Lies and When Campaigns Are Fried
    Like most of the rest of the nation’s political classes, I was eagerly affixed to TV One from 12:30 on Saturday afternoon to witness the downfall of Judith Collins.Whenever we witness the crumbling of a titan of the political landscape...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Whaleoil crushes Crusher
    Judith ends up shooting herself A new email has been released suggesting that Collins was attempting to undermine the head of Serious Fraud Office with the help of far right hate speech merchant Cameron Slater. Unbelievable!   She has been forced...
    The Daily Blog | 30-08
  • BREAKING: Rumours Judith Collins gone at lunchtime
    Brook Sabin first of the mark with rumours Judith Collins is about to resign – PM announcing a statement at 12.30pm… …Paddy follows… …Vance confirms..   …if Collins is gone by lunchtime, it will be because the PM understands the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • BREAKING: UPDATE on DIRT ALERT!
    Thanks to the information passed to Chris Trotter by “Idiot/Savant” from No Right Turn it is now possible to identify at least some of the persons involved in this latest example of attack politics. What follows is Chris’s response to Idiot/Savant’s timely assistance: Well done...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Comparing burning puppets, hip hop lyrics and drunk student chants to black...
    Watching the mainstream media try and obscure Cunliffe’s surprise win in the leaders debate  is a reminder the Press Gallery is in depressed shock. The current spin line from the Wellington bubble media in the wake of Dirty Politics is that...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Why has it all gone quiet on Charter Schools?
    They’re one of ACT’s flagship policies and the National Party have been gung ho in supporting them. So how come we’re not hearing Hekia Parata, Jamie Whyte, Catherine Isaac, et al singing from the rafters about what a resounding success charter...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall
    Moment of Truth – September 15th – Auckland Town Hall...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • EXCLUSIVE: Dirt Alert! Are the Greens and Labour about to become the target...
    WE’VE SEEN IT ALL BEFORE. In 2005 pamphlets began appearing all over New Zealand attacking Labour and the Greens. For a couple of days both the parties targeted and the news media were flummoxed. Who was behind such an obviously...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: the Press Council’s decision
    . . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • The difference between Cunliffe & Key in the debate
    It was with much interest that I watched the leaders debate on Thursday night.  I watched with an open mind, always happy to have my opinion changed.  Maybe John Key is all the wonderful things that many say about him,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – When Did We Agree To Our Data Being Shared with ...
    New shocking evidence has emerged from Edward Snowden’s trove of documents about a program called ICREACH under which data collected by the GCSB is shared with 23 US spy agencies. Under new sharing agreements which appear to have commenced immediately after...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Why Internet MANA are the best political friends the Greens could ever get
    Metiria at last nights #GreenRoomNZ: standing on the shoulders and camera cases of giants  NZers, regardless of political spectrum or apathy level, have a wonderful beach cricket egalitarianism about us. If we can objectively conclude a winner, then that person...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Sick of the Sleaze? Protest against National’s dirty politics THIS SATURD...
    Sick of the Sleaze? Protest now dammit! Three weeks before the election, action is being taken across the country voicing a rejection of the National Government’s track record and direction. Rallies are being held in Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Sir Edmund Thomas – Address at Nicky Hager public meeting
    I regard it as privilege to chair this public meeting. I have long had the greatest admiration for Nicky Hager’s work, and nothing I have read or heard in the media over the past week or so has caused me...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour and New Zealand Superannuation
    The kerfuffle in the wake of Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics has had a detrimental impact on our discussion of economic policies. Signs are that the main beneficiaries of the dirty politics revelations will be Winston Peters and Colin Craig; certainly National suffered...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Mike Hosking and the Leader’s Debat...
    A few weeks ago I blogged that Mike Hosking was a terrible choice as moderator for the TV One Party Leader’s Debate, because he is so embarrassingly biased in favour of John Key. So I watched the show with curiosity,...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Democracy and Cancer: A critical analysis of Dirty Politics
    Twenty years ago, England’s renowned television playwright Denis Potter died of pancreatic cancer.  Readers may recall his two masterpieces ‘Pennies from Heaven’ and ‘The Singing Detective’.  During a final television interview with Melvyn Bragg, Potter declared that he had named...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Cunliffe beats Key in First Leaders debate
    I watched the First Leaders debate at the Green Party #GreenRoomNZ, they were very kind to include me and the atmosphere was great. The debate was a resounding victory to Cunliffe. He won Round 1, Round 2, Round 3 and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • LIVE STREAM: The Green Room Leader’s Debate from 6:30pm
    The Green Room will be hosted by media commentator Russel Brown, and will feature Green Co-leaders Metiria Turei and Russel Norman responding to the debate live, along with comment from thought leaders and commentators. ‘The Green Room’ 6pm – 8.30pm...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • How many taxpayer funded staff does John Key need to prepare for a Leaders ...
    John Key is currently at the Auckland Stamford Plaza with 40 staff, 4 undercover police cars and an entire floor booked out in preparation for tonights Leader’s debate. Isn’t 40 staff including coms, flown up to Auckland for a debate...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • A brief word on National Party Rodney MP, Mark Mitchell
    MP considers legal action against Nicky HagerThe National MP says he is considering taking a defamation case after the September 20 election.“Someone needs to be held accountable,” he said. Oh really champ? Brothers and sisters, there is a long way...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Greens advertise on Whaleoil – but not on The Daily Blog?
    PaknSave have shown ethical compass and blocked adverts on Whaleoil, yet the Greens are advertising on Whaleoil, and not The Daily Blog? I would imagine there are far more potential Green voters on The Daily Blog then ever are on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • It’s about the stupid economy stupid
    In focus group meetings, the sleepy hobbits of NZ by a staggering amount all believe that National are better economic stewards of the country than Labour, that’s why, instead of answering questions about blackmailing MPs, trawling brothels for dirt on...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Labour Policy vs National Policy
    John Key’s favourite defence spin at the moment is people want to talk about policy and not hear answers on the ethics of trawling brothels, why Slater was given SIS information, blackmailing MPs into standing down, rigging candidate elections and hacking...
    The Daily Blog | 28-08
  • Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton
    Personal Statement by Matthew Hooton 1 September 2014 For Immediate Release “This morning I made comments on Radio New Zealand’s Nine to Noon programme about an attempt by staff in the Prime Minister’s Office to interfere in the appointment...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Worm turns down for John Key
    John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s Reactor, the original Worm. John Key struggled to coax The Worm above the line in Thursday’s Leaders Debate, according to Roy Morgan’s...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Edge Posts Naked Photos Without Consent
    The Edge website, owned by Media Works have published fully naked photographs of Jennifer Lawrence without her consent....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Statement from the Governor-General on Ashburton Shootings
    The Governor-General, Lt Gen The Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae, has expressed his deep shock following the shooting of three people in Ashburton today....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Update on IGIS inquiry into release of NZSIS information
    In recognition of the public interest, the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security, Cheryl Gwyn, took the unusual step of providing an update during the course of an inquiry and confirmed today that she would be summoning a number of individuals...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • An Open Government Plan developed in secrecy
    The State Services Commission sent NZ’s Open Government Action Plan to the international Open Government Partnership (OGP) Secretariat on 31 July. The countries involved in the OGP since its inception - from the UK and US to Indonesia and Brazil...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • KiwiRail; another year older and deeper in debt
    That is a lot of money and there are lessons that need to be learnt before we pour in another $1 billion....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Fonterra China Deal Demands Safe Supply Chain
    The future success of Fonterra’s deal to sell infant formula in China [1] requires all milk it uses be safe and for Fonterra to secure its supply chain from contamination by GE DNA and pesticide residues. There is now significant...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • HRC praises Auckland mum for speaking out
    Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy has praised an Auckland mother of four who went public after humiliating treatment by staff at The Warehouse....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Southern DHB refers disputed issue to Serious Fraud Office
    Following advice from forensic investigation firm Beattie Varley Limited, Southern District Health Board has referred the expenditure at the centre of its long running dispute with South Link Health to the Serious Fraud Office. The parties have been...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • The Letter 1 September 2014
    Last night’s TVNZ Colmar Brunton poll puts the left and right 60 MPs each. United and the Maori Party say they will go with the side that gets to 61 MPs. ACT just needs just 1.3% or 28 thousand Party...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Shopping Giveaway Harmless Fun For Kids
    Family First NZ is rubbishing claims by critics including Gareth Morgan that the New World ‘Little Shop’ promotion is harmful for kids, and says that kids should be allowed to be kids. “Children love acting like their parents and pretending...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Red Cross launches employment service for former refugees
    New Zealand Red Cross is encouraging employers to give refugees a fresh startwith the launch of Pathways to Employment, a nationwide work assistance service....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • EDS welcomes Labour’s Conservation Policy
    The Environmental Defence Society has welcomed Labour’s Conservation Policy including the key objective of halting the current pattern of indigenous biodiversity decline within ten years....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Poverty is falling and income inequality is not rising
    “A Roy Morgan poll shows that the issue people are most concerned about is income inequality. This just goes to show how the persistent repetition of a lie bewilders the public. Income inequality is not in fact rising. And the...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Rotary NZ responding to Fiji water and sanitation issues
    Clean water and sanitation are vital to health. In Fiji Rotary New Zealand have been targeting 22 communities that are experiencing severe hardship mainly because they don’t have access to clean water for their drinking, cleaning and cooking needs....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Work & Income shooting a Tragedy
    Kay Brereton speaking on behalf of the National Beneficiary Advocacy Consultancy group says; “Two people shot and another wounded, this is a tragedy and our deepest sympathy goes out to the family and whanau of the victims, as well as...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • 1080 Poison Deer Repellent not Effective – Farmers
    Four deer have been found dead within a farmer's bush block, after an aerial 1080 poison drop applied with deer repellent. The drop was part of a 30,000 hectare drop across the Northern Pureora Forest Park....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Employment Charter will strengthen migrants’ rights
    Establishing an Employment Charter for construction companies is a critical step to strengthening the rights of migrant workers that are fast becoming the face of the Christchurch rebuild, according to an alliance of union groups. The charter has...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Global March For Elephants and Rhino
    It’s a trans-national business that funds terrorist organisations, fuels conflict in Africa, and poses environmental, development and security challenges. The illegal wildlife trade is also a lucrative business, generating an estimated USD$20 billion...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • New series of videos aimed at disengaged youth
    From the people who brought you 'NZ Idle' (NZ's favourite web series about an artist on the dole) comes a new series about election time: Choice Lolz....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Picket Of Leaders Christchurch Debate
    KEEP OUR ASSETS PICKET OF LEADERS CHRISTCHURCH DEBATE TUESDAY SEPTEMBER 2nd, 6 p.m. ST MARGARETS COLLEGE, SHREWSBURY STREET, MERIVALE...
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Vega Auriga should be detained in NZ until problems fixed
    Maritime Union of New Zealand National Secretary Joe Fleetwood says that the ship Vega Auriga should be detained in a New Zealand port until it is deemed seaworthy and crew issues have been fixed....
    Scoop politics | 01-09
  • Minor Parties Added to Election ‘Bribe-O-Meter’
    The Taxpayers’ Union have added the Green, ACT, United Future and Conservative Parties to the ‘ Bribe-O-Meter ’ hosted at taxpayers.org.nz . Excluding ACT and New Zealand First, the total election ‘bribes’ - that is new spending not already...
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Fiery Broadcasting Debate in Auckland
    Over 250 people turned out for the Auckland Broadcasting and Media Debate in Auckland City last night to hear politicians give their solutions to NZ’s media and broadcasting woes....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Independent Epsom Candidate: Adam Holland
    Today I am very proud to have been nominated to run as an independent candidate by the people of Epsom in order to work hard for the people of Epsom, Mount Eden, Newmarket and Remuera....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Voters favour parties with factory farming policies
    A Horizon Research poll shows that 64.7% of adults are more likely to vote for a political party with a policy against factory farming....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Collins And Dirty Politics Drive The #nzpol Wordcloud
    After Judith Collins' resignation as Minister from Cabinet on Saturday, the data insight organisation Qrious collected all tweets that used the hashtag #nzpol and for approximately the 24 hours since the announcement to produced this wordcloud....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Bill English: allegations against Judith Collins are serious
    Deputy Prime Minister Bill English told TV1’s Q+A programme that the allegations against Judith Collins are serious and that’s why an inquiry is needed....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Culture Change Required
    "There are serious issues raised in an Employment Relations Authority judgement released this week. The culture within the Whangarei District Council (WDC) organisation must change. The culture of any organisation is defined by its leadership starting...
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Reducing Reoffending Statistic Challenged
    In Rethinking’s latest blog, http://blog.rethinking.org.nz/2014/08/th-bps-reducing-crime-and-reoffending.html it closely examines the current claim that reoffending in New Zealand has reduced by 12.5% since June 2011, and reveals how that figure has been achieved. It argues...
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • University economics team studying workers’ comparing wages
    A University of Canterbury economics research team is looking at fairness of the job assignments and whether workers are sensitive to the wages of their co-workers....
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Statement by State Services Commissioner
    30 August 2014 "The State Services Commission was contacted by the Prime Minister's Office over the last 24 hours on this issue." “Any activity that undermines, or has the potential to undermine, the trust and confidence in the public service...
    Scoop politics | 31-08
  • Christchurch Council Circus … Continued
    In 2010 the UK Daily Mail investigated the antics of a major bureaucratically bloated London Local Authority and reported with THE GREAT INERTIA SECTOR ....
    Scoop politics | 30-08
  • The Nation Housing Debate
    Patrick It's the great Kiwi dream, but is owning the roof over your head now just a pipe dream for many Kiwis? Homeownership is at the lowest level in half a century. National's answer is to double subsidies to first-home...
    Scoop politics | 30-08
  • Time to Shine Light on Shadowy Spies
    Internet MANA has promised to set up a Royal Commission of Inquiry into New Zealand’s intelligence agencies, with a view to transferring oversight of spying operations to a new, independent authority....
    Scoop politics | 30-08
  • New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues
    New Zealand’s biggest problems are Economic Issues (41%) while the World’s most important problems are War & Terrorism (35%) just three weeks before NZ Election...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • NZ 2014 Leaders Index – week ending 29 August
    Below is iSentia’s first weekly Leaders’ Index, showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. We will produce these reports for the next three...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Judgment in Paki v Attorney General
    Tamaiti Cairns said that today’s Supreme Court decision is complicated, but, in essence opens the door for Maori people to go forward with their essential claims to water. Further work is required and Pouakani Trust will continue to pursue its...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Supreme Court Decision on Maori Water Rights
    “ … the Supreme Court refused to give Pouakani people what they asked for, but may have given them something much, much better instead. The Appellants had argued that the Crown’s ownership of the River was as a fiduciary for...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Leaders Dinner with Campbell Live, Dessert with RadioLIVE
    John Campbell is hosting Colin Craig, Winston Peters, Laila Harre, Metiria Turei, Peter Dunne, Jamie Whyte and Te Ururoa Flavell LIVE from Auckland’s Grand Harbour Restaurant on Wednesday 3 September at 7pm....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Credit unions in the political spotlight
    Dirty politics was put aside last night as senior politicians outlined their universal support for growing the cooperatively owned credit union and mutual building society sector in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Maryan Street on issues of importance to older people
    Liam Butler interviews Hon Maryan Street MP on issues of importance to older New Zealanders...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • John Hanita Paki and others v The Attorney-General
    JOHN HANITA PAKI, TORIWAI ROTARANGI, TAUHOPA TE WANO HEPI, MATIU MAMAE PITIROI AND GEORGE MONGAMONGA RAWHITI v THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL OF NEW ZEALAND FOR AND ON BEHALF OF THE CROWN (“THE CROWN”) (SC 7/2010)...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Last Nights Leaders Debate Drives The #nzpol Wordcloud
    Following last nights leaders debate on TV One between John Key and David Cunliffe, the data insight organisation Qrious collected all tweets that used the hashtag #nzpol from approximately the last 24 hours to produce this wordcloud....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Campaign suggests reason behind suicide gender statistics
    An online campaign about meaning and belonging has revealed an interesting connection with the difference in suicide rates between men and women....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Act Policy Vindicated by Sensible Sentencing Data
    ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte says the Sensible Sentencing Trust's just released analysis of 3 Strikes legislation "proves ACT was right to promote the policy and that it has made New Zealand a much safer country. The figures show beyond...
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • “Robin Hood tax and other clever ways to help our kids”
    It’s time to talk about tax. Not just income tax but other kinds of tax too....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • Cannabis Laws Breach Treaty – ALCP
    Cannabis prohibition is neo-colonial oppression resulting in the disproportionate imprisonment of Maori, the Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party says....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
  • 2014 Variation Broadcasting Allocation Decision Released
    The Electoral Commission has released a variation decision on the amount of time and money allocated to political parties for the broadcasting of election programmes for the 2014 General Election....
    Scoop politics | 29-08
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