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Open mike 28/04/2014

Written By: - Date published: 6:31 am, April 28th, 2014 - 246 comments
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246 comments on “Open mike 28/04/2014”

  1. mickysavage 1

    Over the next couple of weeks the country is going to witness significant stockpiling of synthetic drugs by individuals, many of them young. No doubt use will go up for a while until personal stashes are used up.

    Who should be blamed for this? Peter Dunne and the government. They could have let Labour make its announcement, which obviously needed a positive government response for it to be effective, and released their response much closer to the next sitting day. They would have suffered some political embarrassment. Instead they decided to make the announcement early for political gain.

    Shame on them.

      • aerobubble 1.1.1

        There’s an easy way to fill the gap. Marijuana pills. They are safe. Take some weed stock pile at the Police station, turn them into pills.

        Oh, that would be the sane way forward, but the legal high industry are making far too much money and must be protected.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 1.2

      “Do you really think the government would have given you a victory on this?”

      National Party tr0ll and Associate Minister of Harm Peter Dunne.

    • Draco T Bastard 1.3

      Instead they decided to make the announcement early for political gain.

      But at least they gave the shop owners plenty of warning to get rid of their stocks so that they won’t lose any money on them. /sarc.

      • Mainlander 1.3.1

        Whats more shocking is Cunliffe pretending to have policy on banning legal highs the same day as its announced Dunne is shutting them down, DC is shameless

        • Draco T Bastard 1.3.1.1

          Oh, get your head out of your arse. Labour obviously had the policy long before Dunne did and Dunne was obviously reacting to what Labour were doing.

    • freedom 1.4

      So to avoid a period of panic buying that would only occur if there was knowledge that an amendment to the law was coming, Peter Dunne announces an amendment to the law is coming. If they had held off the announcement of the amendment until the amendment was passed then the panic buying would never occur. Pure reactionary games from the Government to Labour’s announcement. Then there is the questionable use of Parliamentary urgency to play games with your vote. All in all, pretty sickening

    • Tinfoilhat 1.5

      Couldn’t Dunne just have phone Cunliffe and told him what was in the pipeline and to hold off on his announcement until just before parliament reopened or is that too obvious a solution for dunne to think of ?

      • Pete George 1.5.1

        I wondered that too but it’s politics in election year rather than common sense at play.

        Stephen J said last night:

        I don’t think this is our finest hour, to be honest. We should be aspiring to evidence based policy that aims at harm minimisation. There has been a moral panic based on nothing more than a few horror stories in the press.

        It’s worth reading Stephen’s other comment as well. He’s not quite right, it’s the Psychoactive Substances Regulatory Authority that “may, at any time, by notice in the Gazette, revoke an approval of a psychoactive product granted under section 37 if the Authority considers on reasonable grounds that the product poses more than a low risk of harm to individuals using the product.”

        http://legislation.govt.nz/act/public/2013/0053/latest/DLM5043062.html

        But instead we have politicians, as Ross Bell at the Drug Foundation said, “playing silly buggers”. I haven’t heard any suggestions yet on how the addiction problems will be addressed, especially as supply of synthetic highs goes underground.

        • mickysavage 1.5.1.1

          You did not answer my question Pete. Dunne had three options:

          Consider Labour’s proposal and do nothing.
          Consider Labour’s proposal and agree to enact it urgently later on so there is only a short time for stockpiling.
          For political advantage announce a change early to try and head off Labour’s announcement even though it will mean there is increased stockpiling.

          So what do you think of Dunne’s choice?

          • Pete George 1.5.1.1.1

            He had more options than that. For example he could have put evidence based decisions ahead of reactive politics. Perhaps he has but it hasn’t looked like it.

            I don’t think Dunne has handled it well. He was dragged out of his comfort zone by Campbell last week and has been bombarded by mayors, parents and probably by some Government MPs.

            And he seems to have reacted politically to a political play by Labour. No credit to either side there, but as others have said Dunne is ultimately responsible for what happens with this, he’s the Minister.

            It’s not a disaster, yet. We’ll have to wait and see if the ban bandwagon works and if the expected and unintended consequences are manageable and are not any worse than the situation we have now.

            • vto 1.5.1.1.1.1

              You don’t have to wonder and wait PG, there is ample evidence of what happens when bans and prohibition are put in place.

              That is what will happen.

            • freedom 1.5.1.1.1.2

              “And he seems to have reacted politically to a political play by Labour.”

              I find it hilarious that in an Election period you try to criticise Labour for releasing Policy.

              lame lame lame you are,
              spinning in a dream
              terribly terribly terribly wrong
              your drivel makes us scream

              and another has week gone by,
              so how is the Budget for Poor People coming along Pete ?

              • One Anonymous Bloke

                Not even wrong: deliberately dishonest at every level. No purpose other than conscious disruption.

                Do not feed the tr0ll.

            • Disraeli Gladstone 1.5.1.1.1.3

              Peter Dunne also could have quoted an anonymous source that blamed synthetic cannabis on single mothers, but only so people could debate the point and not that he believed it.

              Eh?

              • Over-reactions here are to be expected but where it mattered the point was acknowledged and understood by Kelvin. He was one of the few prepared to think and discuss.

                • Disraeli Gladstone

                  I read Kelvin’s response as the biggest eye-roll but knowing he’s soon an MP and shouldn’t engage in internet fights.

                  He basically acknowledged the exact same thing I did yesterday and then stopped to not look like an internet troll.

                  Which as of yesterday, I can only assume you are.

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  Yes, the number is becoming vanishingly small. Soon you’ll be on your own :D

                • NZFemme

                  Kevin’s response to you was as follows:

                  ” Mate, no violence is acceptable by any gender towards any gender, but if you think that some bloke smacking over the missus all comes down to his solo mother beating the crap out of him when he was a toddler you are a fool. The reasons for sexual, physical and emotional abuse are many and varied, and I’m not going to change the whole world, but as a man I can stand up and tell men to keep their bloody fists to themselves and their dicks in their pants.”

                  https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kelvin-Davis/776784779020038?fref=ts

                  Perhaps your ongoing obsession to somehow be “relevant” is what blinds you to your utter irrelevancy and how people actually view you. i.e. A fool. Or perhaps you simply have a masochistic streak, and enjoy public humiliation.

                  • I’ve had other communication with Kevin. He’s willing to listen and engage, which is a good sign.

                  • One Anonymous Bloke

                    You’re right Weka. Pete George is a habitual relentless liar.

                    • Says a habitual relentless liar.

                    • weka

                      Was that a habitual lie Pete?

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      Link or it didn’t happen.

                    • Is that a joke or unintentional irony? Very funny anyway.

                    • One Anonymous Bloke

                      Oh, you need examples? “He was one of the few who was prepared to think and discuss” “I’m working with the Greens” “Bill is trying to choke discussion” “Micky Savage has been well briefed”.

                      That’s just off the top of my head. The full picture, your body of work as a whole, gives a far more rounded account. Deliberate, calculated dishonesty, every single day, and you don’t have to take my word for it: anyone can see it to draw their own conclusions.

            • Clemgeopin 1.5.1.1.1.4

              So do you think that dunne should take responsibility for his ineptness, show some integrity and honour and resign immediately?

              • Why? The Bill passed through Government 119-1 votes last year. It was working much as many people expected it to work. The number of products wee substantially reduced, the number of outlets were substantially reduced. It’s been reported that ED harm has reduced.

                Labour have just seen fit to announce an urgent amendment yesterday – why not a month ago? Six months ago?

                Should David Cunliffe resign immediately? If it’s been such a problem for so long why hasn’t he done anything about it until now?

                • Ant

                  No one would have expected Dunne to be that inept with its implementation, a new low of incompetence even for him.

                  I suppose it gave sonny-boy a good chance to cash a few cheques in the process though…

                • Ant

                  Oh and the supposed reduction in ED harm was based on claims by the MoH based on anecdotal reports, perhaps you should FACTCHECK that.

          • One Anonymous Bloke 1.5.1.1.2

            :roll:

            Every syllable dripping with bad faith and deceit. No life-signs at Politicheck.

          • Jim in Tokyo 1.5.1.1.3

            Dunne had three options

            He had more options than that.

            I’m afraid that Pete George has it right on this one, a truly strange state of affairs and one which just goes to show how quickly sensible people lose their heads once a good’ol media fueled drug panic sets in.

            I believe the correct option would have been for Dunne to make some appearances explaining the legislation (it’s pretty clear that most of the people commenting on these threads could do with a refresher) and reiterating that as soon as some evidence of adverse effects is collected through the medical practitioner reporting scheme, the offending substances will have their interim licenses revoked on a case by case basis as per the original intention of the law.

            Of course there’s a strong chance that Dunne’s branch of the ministry botched the implementation of the legislation and that the adverse effects reports are piling up on some understaffed public service desk. In which case the opposition could have dined out on “Dunne killed my Kid” headlines from now until the election. But that would have taken the opposition to show the guts to stand behind the original legislation they all voted for.

            I think anyone who has ever smugly dropped a [citation needed] on a right winger should take a deep breath, do some background reading on the 2013 Psychoactive Substances Act, and take a moment to reflect on this clusterfuck.

            http://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/regulation-health-and-disability-system/psychoactive-substances

            • mickysavage 1.5.1.1.3.1

              I believe the correct option would have been for Dunne to make some appearances explaining the legislation (it’s pretty clear that most of the people commenting on these threads could do with a refresher) and reiterating that as soon as some evidence of adverse effects is collected through the medical practitioner reporting scheme, the offending substances will have their interim licenses revoked on a case by case basis as per the original intention of the law.

              I agree with you Jim that on the face of it the system looked like it was reasonably robust and should have been able to handle problem drugs. But I cannot reconcile what was happening on the ground with what the Health Ministry thought was happening. There may be a big pile of reported adverse effects sitting on a desk somewhere waiting for a damn back office public servant to deal with but for whatever reason the legislation was not working.

              • “The Authority has received anecdotal reports demonstrating the number of severe presentations to emergency departments has reduced since the Act came in.”

                Nicola Kean, a producer for The Nation, asked the Ministry of Health last week:

                “What’s the trend (if any) for people presenting at A+E for problems with psychoactive substances since the law was introduced?”

                A written reply on Thursday said:

                “While it is early days the Authority has received anecdotal reports demonstrating the number of severe presentations to emergency departments has reduced since the Act came in.

                The Authority monitors approved products received from the Centre for Adverse Reactions Monitoring (CARM), and calls from the public to the National Poisons Centre on a regular basis.

                These reports also show a reduction in the number of severe issues being reported. Where severe adverse reactions are reported the Authority has the power to act and has already removed products from the market where reports to CARM identified they posed more than a low risk of harm”.

                So again the evidence is only anecdotal, but the official line was that if anything reports of severe harm caused by legal highs was DOWN since the law was introduced.

                Only it made for bad optics; the public didn’t like what it saw. The political risk to the government became too high. Hence the de facto ban via councils becomes a temporary ban via a government-mandated product recall.

                http://www.pundit.co.nz/content/legal-highs-leave-mps-dazed-confused

                This suggests that harm has been actually reducing, the visible impact has just been concentrated around the far fewer retail outlets.

                Politicians seem to have been spooked by bad publicity and are set to change something that appeared to be working more or less as intended.

                Sure, any drug harm is bad, but I’m not sure that ditching an approach that seems to have been working is the best approach, including for election jitters.

                • mickysavage

                  Ok …

                  You still have not answered my previous question. Dunne’s announcement smacks entirely of political expediency. If he was serious about a ban and on there being no stockpiling he would have held off from his announcement.

                  So I am waiting for you to say that his decision was wrong and that the timing is cynical politics.

                  And instead of saying they are all wrong just remember that Labour are in opposition and do not have the power to change the law.

                  • I don’t agree with Dunne’s decision, time will tell if it was wrong or not. And I don’t think he’s presented himself well, there does seem to be political expediency involved (but not entirely).

                    It also seems that Key is onside with him. I don’t know what sort of advice he’s getting, MP or polling seems most likely.

                    Labour haven’t handled it well either but I agree they have less responsibility.

                    The NZ First response was awful from Lole-Taylor.

                    I have seen one MP so far who gets it and has responded sensible. @KevinHague

                    Interim prohibition will fuel black market, increase harm, make treatment harder and may undermine full regime. #119-1

                    just saying a visible, regulated drug market is vastly preferable to an underground, uncontrolled one.

                    Even from opposition it’s possible to talk sense.

                    • freedom

                      “Labour haven’t handled it well either but I agree they have less responsibility.”

                      Remembering Pete, this discussion is about current events, not last year’s votes in the House or a press conference from Chesapeake circa 1908.

                      The current events are (in case you get confused) are as simple as 1,2,3:

                      1 April 22: Cabinet made a decision to introduce a new amendment and planned to abuse Parliamentary process yet again when parliament resumes, it is reported most likely to occur on May 8 .

                      2 April 27: Labour announced it was about to release some policy, you know as political parties are asked to do before before an Election.

                      3 April 27: 20 minutes after Labour’s press release, Dunne had a brainfart

                      So you said

                      Labour haven’t handled it well either but I agree they have less responsibility.

                      Remembering that I am unlikely to be a Labour voter, so really don’t have a dog in this fight, my question is this:
                      What does Labour have to defend?
                      What could they or should they have done better, exactly?

                      Specifics please. i.e: not in Petey-speak if you would be so kind.

              • Skinny

                Meanwhile Key out smarts us with ‘the delay was due to the animal testings issue rodents yes, but rabbits umm nah’. End result thanks for coming we will mop up these soft animal rights votes. Simple & smoothly played again!

            • Bill 1.5.1.1.3.2

              Correct me if I’ve got this wrong. But since synthetic substances are able to be tweaked at the molecular level, any banned substance invariably just comes back around in a tweaked form.

              Way I see it is that there are possibly going to be severe repercussions from withdrawal symptoms for many users. And banning these piles of shite, without legalising the natural product they’re an alternative to, is a hiding to nothing.

              So, ban them. But make absolutely damned sure that withdrawal services are up to speed and in place first. (They are currently fucking woefully inadequate).

              And, don’t just legalise the drug we’ve used for thousands of years, but encourage the development of different strains vis a vis the ratio of THC to other cannabinoids present. (The reason for that last bit is that the ratio determines the experience in the user. If I’d the time, I’d hunt out the study where subjects were given pure THC and then another cannabinoid and the reactions compared. The conclusion was that THC ‘out of whack’ with other balancing ingredients was responsible for feelings of debilitating paranoia in the subjects tested)

              • Draco T Bastard

                But since synthetic substances are able to be tweaked at the molecular level, any banned substance invariably just comes back around in a tweaked form.

                Which is why we need a blanket ban.

                But make absolutely damned sure that withdrawal services are up to speed and in place first.

                Considering that our addiction health services weren’t up to scratch to start with I suspect bringing them up to scratch would be damn near impossible in a reasonable amount of time especially for a once off surge. People are going to hurt – not much we can do about that now.

                And, don’t just legalise the drug we’ve used for thousands of years, but encourage the development of different strains vis a vis the ratio of THC to other cannabinoids present.

                Putting standards in place would be part of the legalisation process.

              • weka

                Bill, yes, this is why herbal medicines in the form of the whole plant affect the body quite differently than drugs made from parts of the plant. In that sense cannabis is a safer drug thatn legal highs.

                I heard a bit of the discussion on nine to noon this morning, and I do think that many people don’t realise that this is about the synthesised outside of the whole plant issue AND there is other shit in the high too (eg amphetamines). I’m guessing that makes withdrawal nasty not least because no-one know what is being detoxed.

                I’m also not sure that cannabis would work as a replacement to prevent withdrawal, except where it is a pleasure inducing drug to soften the blow ie the cell receptors for cannabis are different than those for speed etc. I totally agree that cannabis should be legalised first though, or at least be made available on prescription to people who have been using legal highs.

                Re the ban and why they thought they couldn’t ban before (tweaking turnaround is a matter of weeks or a few months). Why not just ban sale of any synthetic substance being sold as a psychoactive, unless the substance is registered and deemed safe?

                “but encourage the development of different strains vis a vis the ratio of THC to other cannabinoids present.”

                I think there are many people in NZ waiting in the wings for decriminalisation who will be more than happy to release their special strains.

                • Bill

                  Why not just ban sale of any synthetic substance being sold as a psychoactive…

                  Just off the top of my head, I’d imagine there is plenty of leeway for manufacturing a substance for sale that is not psychoactive until you add or do ‘x, y or z’ to it.

                  Or to manufacture a product that has dual use, and selling it, ostensibly on its benign, non-psychotropic use.

                  Just legalise natural recreational drugs we have used for thousands of years – all of them – and provide high quality, non-alarmist info for users and potential users within a regime that ensures high levels of purity.

                  Won’t solve the problem of people using synthetics if they want to, but the incentive would be (I think) largely gone. I mean – they’re manufactured to mimic the effects of age old recreational drugs, no? So why punt for second rate chemical trash when you can get the real McCoy? Some will, but hey…

                  • politikiwi

                    I’ve had a lot of people say to me “The only reason I use legal highs over cannabis is that there’s no chance of a life-destroying conviction.”

                    It’s anecdotal, but it tells me a lot about the mindset of users.

                    Keeping cannabis illegal is doing more harm than good.

      • One Anonymous Bloke 1.5.2

        No need: Labour isn’t the government. It was Minister Dunne’s announcement that did the damage.

      • Draco T Bastard 1.5.3

        Of course not, that would have required that there be something in the pipeline.

      • aerobubble 1.5.4

        Unlikely. Dunne is damaged goods. Key needs to protect him at all costs. Another of Dunne’s high points in politics comes down in a shambles. Dunne needs help. Send to rehab.

    • Jim Nald 1.6

      A bloody cock-up by the government. Absolutely outrageous.

      • The Al1en 1.6.1

        The best thing, apart from finally getting the synth rubbish out of our shopping precincts, is the total humiliation deservedly heaped on Dunne.
        Claiming for more than a year and a half that nothing could be done about the products, only for the cabinet to cut him off at the knees and totally undermine him with the upcoming total ban policy announcement.

        Dunne’s biggest anti kiwi failure yet and a fitting political legacy of a career of incompetence and self serving bauble chasing.
        I hope he never gets to be forgotten as the minister who did so much damage to NZ society.

      • alwyn 1.6.2

        Damn right it is.
        The Government could have announced it when they agreed to do it, two weeks ago I understand. Instead they tried to bring it in in a well-organised way, only to have it leak to an ignorant opposition who decided to jump in and claim the credit for something they were stealing from another parties policies.
        Oh well, what can one expect. The Labour Party hasn’t had an original idea since about 1988..

        • Draco T Bastard 1.6.2.1

          Oh, BS. Neither PD nor National had any plans around it two weeks ago. They learned that Labour was going to make an announcement and, due to the fact that they’ve been getting torn about their inaction on this, panicked.

        • Lanthanide 1.6.2.2

          On the radio this morning Key admitted the cabinet decided on Tuesday. That is 6 days ago, not 2 weeks.

          • The Al1en 1.6.2.2.1

            And since then Dunne been on TV saying he did his best and nothing else could be done about it. In anyone’s book that’s called being hung out to dry.

            To be fair, Dunne does flappy wet really well, so all seasons flag maybe a new career opportunity for him post election.

          • alwyn 1.6.2.2.2

            You are right, I misread Dunne’s press release.

            The decision appears to have been made a week earlier, not two weeks. I read Dunne’s statement and confused the statement that they would “be banned within two weeks” with the one week since Cabinet had agreed to the proposal.

            Gee, my mistake is at least as serious as DC claiming his Grandfather was a war Hero I suppose.

            • One Anonymous Bloke 1.6.2.2.2.1

              His grandfather and his great-uncle. Get it right.

              • Get it right.

                His grandfather served and received service medals. Heroism unknown.
                His great uncle served and was awarded a Military Medal for valour (and will have received service medals).

                • mickysavage

                  Are there any other members of Cunliffe’s extended family dead or alive that you want to insult for political purposes?

                • lprent

                  One of my grandparents and many of my extended cousins of his generation were in WW2. Most of them have medals and I was astonished about what they were when I went to the war memorial museum to figure out what they were.

                  None of them would tell me a damn thing until after I’d been in the army. My great-aunts and other family who did tell me about those bits of ribbon and metal were dead wrong.

                  Such is life and the veracity verbal family histories. A rather pointless wankfest for useless gunwaving fools like Cameron.

                • One Anonymous Bloke

                  :roll:

                  War heroes, you petty asshole. And fuck off – I’m not interested in any response you might vomit up, because you embody deceit and bad faith like a maggot embodies decay.

        • One Anonymous Bloke 1.6.2.3

          “I understand”.

          No, you don’t.

          Where did you get the mistaken impression that the decision was made two weeks ago? Have you been duped, or did you invent that all on your own?

          Either way you’re untrustworthy, and your bitterness is showing.

          • alwyn 1.6.2.3.1

            There, there diddums. Time for your tranquiliser and a good rest.

            • One Anonymous Bloke 1.6.2.3.1.1

              I see you admitted your “error”, but immediately made another one. Keep trying, but.

    • Skinny 1.7

      Well I have to say Micky is this any real surprise to you?

      Obviously they are going to react swiftly to any issue in society that will get votes, or cost votes. I heard Iain Lee-Galloway harping on like chicken little this morning. Is this not a repeat of the Governments U-turn on lowering of the drink driving level?

      Dunne had to react to keep his thin dream alive of retaining his seat in parliament, as did National.

      Where a real opportunity went begging was not bringing in the cruel animal testing element of the whole issue. Do we have a Nationwide campaign committee planning events? Christ I have members here ready and rearing to get stuck in on rallies/demonstrations. We should have had a nationwide day of action, expanding on the legal highs issues to include animal testing. The amount of animal lovers that couldn’t give a hoot about politics, but would be soft enough to support any party that is out to protect their precious little pooch or fluffy cat etc. What a start to the week.

    • tc 1.8

      It’s all about clinging to power with Dunne and the nats, social consequences are irrelevant to them.

      The hairdo has been consistent and at least honest admitting to be a willing seller with something for a willing buyer.

      NZ’s very own Krusty the clown of politics where it’s not so much what he’s endorsing but rather the act of selling out he can’t resist as it’s in his DNA.

      • Rosie 1.8.1

        +1. Exactly tc – it IS all about clinging to power with Dunne. What a cheap shot this announcement was, and so cynical. Playing games of one upmanship comes first before anything. I wonder if Dunne is starting to feel uncertain about his future as an MP?

        I bet this week’s edition of the Independent Herald will be full of praise for the man who came to save the day. He loves to get his propaganda in the local paper has much as possible

    • TightyRighty 1.9

      shame on labour for not being able to control it’s caucus members, or it’s party officials. Which is it mickey? selling secrets to the enemy. not a good look for unification.

  2. There has been an obvious answer to drug addiction since the days of prohibition of alcohol.

    Banning drugs means that most addicts end up getting ‘treatment’ in jail.

    The only reason we have a high rate of drug addiction is the war on drugs designed to criminalise the working class and justify a police/penal state.

    Legalise dope and this will reduce the harm from both dope and alcohol addiction.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1

      Not necessarily.

      Substance abuse is linked to inequality. Higher levels of inequality, higher levels of substance abuse. Legality is more-or-less irrelevant.

      • bad12 2.1.1

        Disagree OAB, throughout history humans have found psycho-active substances and used them with regularity,

        Us humans rich or poor just love to change our reality, obviously those who are more monied can more afford their habits than those who are less so…

          • bad12 2.1.1.1.1

            Karol, i am not sure i would rest anything on the research of Bingham Dai, i did tho notice the quote about the ”disorganized” druggies and their low socio economic status,

            Show me a Lawyer or Doctor, a Manager, or your local Linesman who is willingly going to involve themselves in a ”drug study” let alone admit to using any illegal drug on a regular basis, from personal experience tho i know that plenty of professionals regularly use illegal drugs,

            Obviously the lower down the economic pecking order drug users are then the worse the effects on their lives drug use/abuse are going to be…

            • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1.1.1.1.1

              It’s a common misconception that the effects of inequality only apply to those “lower down the economic pecking order”. Or a right-wing false frame – I’m not sure of the exact provenance of the misconception.

              In any event, the socio-economic status of substance abusers is a red herring.

            • karol 2.1.1.1.1.2

              Well, in my experience of middle class people, their drug of choice is alcohol – I suspect they over-indulge that more than may on lower incomes, largely because of affordability.

              From the stuff I’ve read so far on legal highs, it is a major attraction to many because it is legal and available in their area.

        • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1.1.2

          Bad, your remark is entirely consistent with mine.

      • phillip ure 2.1.2

        “..Substance abuse is linked to inequality..”

        i agree in the sense of the despairs of poverty often driving people to seek a/any escape/respite..

        ..(been there..done that..)

        ..but i’ve done too many drugs with to many wealthy-folks to accept the other possible interpretation..(ie..that rich people don’t get out of it..?..).

        ..the only inequality in that sense being that their drugs are usually of the highest quality..

        • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1.2.1

          Inequality increases stress levels across the board: the poor person doesn’t have enough to live on, the rich person has to work harder to maintain position, the rungs of the socio-economic ladder are further apart.

  3. Chooky 3

    Bomber Bradbury on why Marijuana should be legalised…i agree it should …….(personally i dont smoke it because the few times i tried it in my youth it gave me red eyes and a woolly head for several days, not good for university essays …but i know for some people it is their drug of choice for many years and above alcohol and it does agree with them better than alcohol )

    ….While I do think anyone under the age of 20 should be very wary of it …and it should be prohibited for school age children ( because their brains are developing and they arent the full biscuit)……i think it is way better than the synthetic stuff

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/04/27/and-the-winners-of-banning-synthetic-cannabis-will-be-organised-crime/

    ….and on whether Trevor Mallard is up to the job

    http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/04/28/is-trevor-mallard-really-the-best-person-to-lead-drug-reform/

    • freedom 3.1

      I had a quite serious FB chat with a nephew in Oz this weekend on a range of issues and that under 20 topic was raised. I always had a strict R18 policy with him consuming anything anywhere. My nephew, who is almost 30 and runs his own business, is watching many of his friends who started young lose their way. He actually thanked me for repeatedly ignoring his youthful pleas and being such a general pain in the arse whenever I caught him out. :)

      • Disraeli Gladstone 3.1.1

        I’m not always sure a strict R18 policy works on consumption (at least with alcohol). My family has always operated with a very mainland European relationship with alcohol. I was allowed very, very weak shandies on special occasions as a boy. And once I got to 14-15, I was allowed the odd half-glass of wine or beer (once every two or three months) as long as it took me several hours to finish it.

        It meant when I got to 18, I had a pretty decent relationship with the stuff and I can say that in several decades, I’ve never once been properly “drunk”. True for all my family. The one who does have a problem with her drink was never allowed to drink until she was an adult.

        • freedom 3.1.1.1

          That is a sensible process and I wholly support it. It is a supervised attentive scenario which builds good relationships with the substances and within the family unit. I would look to the parents, if they said it was ok for him to have the odd beer at a bbq, that was their decision, (and he can drink their beer ;) ). If they weren’t around to confirm it, he missed out.

          p.s. just joking about being a stingy uncle, if his folks said it was ok, my beer was in the fridge alongside everyone else’s. :)

      • Chooky 3.1.2

        Yes agree freedom…..caregivers walk a fine line….because kids with peer pressure will likely experiment …. for some alcohol abuse and tobacco addiction is far worse in the end than marijuana…and some of the more reckless will experiment with anything that is going ….including doctor prescriptions…..and get caught in a web of addiction

        ..it is best to keep young people away from drugs of any kind if possible ( except perhaps a glass of wine with family …my children generally dont like wine) and give them emotional support and coping behaviours for peer group pressure , anxiety disorders/depression , problem solving and sensible decision making… if you can …..until their brains are developed ( 25yrs!)and they are adults sensible enough to have made their own way and make their own decisions

        imo depression is a major issue in New Zealand …and this feeds drug addictions…. as distinct from experimentation or sensible social use

        very good interview with Kathryn Ryan with toxicologist (09:10 With Dr. Leo Schep from the National Poisons Centre.)on toxicology side effects of of synthetic marijuana ….sounds far far worse than marijuana!!!! .. also very good discussion on depression

        http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon

        http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/ninetonoon/audio/2593876/government-move-to-stop-the-sales-of-all-legal-highs

        • tc 3.1.2.1

          ‘ imo depression is a major issue in New Zealand …and this feeds drug addictions as distinct to experimentation…’

          With alcohol as a major depressant readily available in cheap nasty spirit, RTD and Tui sized servings.

          Those RTD’s are particularly nasty the way they are manufactured with a large brewer done a few years back for using the beer process as the alcohol base they added flavouring to.

          • Chooky 3.1.2.1.1

            RTDs?…are these alcopops?…if so, agreed!….young teenagers love them…..and yes alcohol is a depressant and insidious in its effects with long term overuse …i wonder how many people know this?

          • Rosie 3.1.2.1.2

            RTD’s. The insidious thing about them is they were launched on to the market around the same time as the minimum purchase age was lowered to 18.

            Brightly coloured sugary flavoured soft drink styled drinks that appeals to young undeveloped taste buds that don’t have to go through the learning stages of becoming accustomed to the adult taste of beer and wine. Just straight into it, no training wheels required. Easily marketed in bright packaging for teens. Easy money for the booze industry. Ca Ching!

            PS: Oh, a double up on the word insidious with Chooky. Yes, Chooky, these are drinks are alcopops

            • Chooky 3.1.2.1.2.1

              yes alcopops or RTDs re very questionable when marketed at the very young …probably the reason for many youth alcohol abuse problems

    • tc 3.2

      Drugs are fine in moderation and individuals need to consider their own physical and emotional toll on a case by case basis with each drug. Personal responsibility can’t be legislated for.

      The legal ones do the most damage to society, such as alcohol tobacco as big pharma products and these have the spin, lobbying and power to keep themselves entrenched.

      We should be decriminalising first not removing all illegalties, this removes the criminal elements ability to profit from it and allows the dust to settle for a considered review down the line.

      As one expert on drug abuse stated, taking ecstasy is safer then riding a horse in terms of coming to harm. That line cost him his job despite it being statistically accurate due to the emotive and self interests at play.

      • Draco T Bastard 3.2.1

        We should be decriminalising first not removing all illegalties, this removes the criminal elements ability to profit from it and allows the dust to settle for a considered review down the line.

        No it doesn’t. Decriminalisation only means that people won’t be charged for possession of it but selling it is still illegal which means that the only supply chain for most people will still be through organised crime.

        What we need is full legalisation.

        • tc 3.2.1.1

          I said we shouldn’t remove all the laws. This would create an open season, just engineer it so if people want to indulge if they desire it’s not illegal.

          Making it legal to possess but not legal to procure is just idiotic if you want to drain the revenue streams the crim’s get from it.

          Seems to be working well in other parts of the world.

        • MaxFletcher 3.2.1.2

          “Decriminalisation only means that people won’t be charged for possession of it but selling it is still illegal”

          It doesn’t mean that at all – it means whatever the terms of the decriminalisation are.

          Alcohol, for example, doesn’t have full legalisation. It is still a criminal offence to sell to under 18 year olds, to sell it without a license etc. Alcohol is a decriminalised substance.

          • Draco T Bastard 3.2.1.2.1

            No, alcohol is a legalised substance. There are serious regulations around production and sale. Decriminalisation effectively leaves the illegality in place while making it so that you won’t be charged for possession.

            • MaxFletcher 3.2.1.2.1.1

              “Decriminalisation effectively leaves the illegality in place while making it so that you won’t be charged for possession.”

              No it doesn’t. Decriminalisation doesn’t automatically mean anything. You could decriminalise it and make possession and the sale of any amount under 20grams legal for example. Or possession and sale could both result in a fine instead of prosecution.

              Alcohol doesn’t have full legalisation. And if you think it is does try to start selling it yourself out of your home, to the public.

              • Draco T Bastard

                Alcohol doesn’t have full legalisation. And if you think it is does try to start selling it yourself out of your home, to the public.

                Yes, that would be what legalisation means – full regulation.

  4. vto 4

    That nutty Texan rancher who has been at odds with his government spouted off the other day about how negroes were better off as slaves, he thought, than they are today….

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2612095/The-shocking-racist-rant-Nevada-rancher-Cliven-Bundy.html

    … of course there have been all kinds of uproar about the racist angle of what he said, but the most important aspect of his rant has flown right over everyone’s heads. And the silly old fool didn’t even realise himself what he said…

    …which was that yes, most working people today would be better off as slaves. This applies equally in NZ where it is in fact cheaper to pay minimum wage, which is insufficient to support a family, than it is to keep a slave. This fool of a man has highlighted the biggest failure of all of the capitalist / ‘free’ market system we have been operating under, namely that it is no better than slavery. Cliven Bundy has unwittingly highlighted the complete failure of the system he bows down to – he is right – the lot of poor working people in NZ and in the US today is no better than that of the slaves of the past.

    I wonder if Bundy and his tea party extremists can appreciate the abject failure of the capitalist / free market system that he has highlighted. Srylands would be another to do well to think on it too.

    • Will@Welly 4.1

      You can argue any viewpoint if you’re determined/ biased. I am still amazed at the amount of racialism still prevalent in parts of the US. In South Africa, much of that racialism has reversed, or the “hatred” has reverted back to a tribal basis.

  5. Rosie 5

    Seen this web based series? Here’s the one minute intro

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrhp48poP_Y

    NZ IDLE: Friends with unemployment benefits is made by Poor Sailors Art Collective and is funded by NZ on Air.

    It’s a satirical series about an unemployed artist. In the intro you’ll meet Able Twerk, benefit reformer who works for LOSE: Labour Office of Sustainable Employment.

    Satire, the missing piece of gentle dissent. Enjoy.

  6. Bearded Git 6

    Notice the way Espiner cuts off Cunliffe when he mentions credit should be due to Labour MP Ian Lees-Galloway on the legal highs issue. Would he do this to Key?

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2593848/labour-leader-responds-to-government's-move-on-legal-highs

    Though on the other hand Sarah Ferguson does a good job with Key making it clear that this is a u-turn, National’s hand was forced by Labour and she pings Key’s “some time ago” as being actually only 5 days ago. Key lying again and pinged. Well done that woman!

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/morningreport/audio/2593862/pm-defends-timing-of-legal-highs-decision

    • greywarbler 6.1

      Have you noticed that both eSpinner and Susie are using the stake in the ground approach in their interviews. Everything stops while they wait for a yes or no answer on some point they have raised, which gets repeated continuously as the interviewee keeps on with his/her other thoughts.

      It can be useful to tie some flip-floppy speaker down to something definite, and on the way extract some unintended information to arise, but it can also close down interesting flows for the sake of some irrelevant point so that it seems just a way for eSpinner to assert himself as dominant – ‘Look at me Atlas of the Airwaves’.

      @ BG
      Sarah Ferguson, Duchess of York!
      Susie Ferguson, Radionz Morning Report.

    • Rodel 6.2

      BG -I marvel at Cunliffe’s patience with Espiner, calm, unflustered , in possession of the facts and focussed- Good PM material, unlike the other guy.

  7. karol 7

    McCready & Bright going after McCully for corruption – bribing Jones to destabilise Labour.

    • Chooky 7.1

      Lol …Go Penny Bright and McCready!

    • Skinny 7.2

      I got a bit of a laugh reading Penny Bright’s formal complaint paper that she posted on here. However reading on and seeing the good work she done to get John Banks in the docks made me stop giggling. Good for her, McCully and the Nats should be drawn over the coals for plucking a job out of thin air, in what a lot of the public must see as political interference/job offer bribery.

      I loved her optimism when someone queried her success rate, pretty much whack the numbers through and the odd one sticks lol.

      • srylands 7.2.1

        The premise of the complaint is wrong. Jones will be appointed under the Foreign Affairs Act, NOT the State Sector Act. That Act is clear that the Governor General appoints overseas representatives on the recommendation of the Minister.

        • Skinny 7.2.1.1

          Oh the tax payer union spokesperson pipes up. Yes that is how it rolls Shrillands, however public opinion, should the MSM give Bright and co coverage should do the trick. People see it for what it is. Plucking a job out of thin air, politicals games on the taxpayers ticket. I’m very disappointed your outfit isn’t putting out press realeases admonishing the blantant abuse of the taxpayers purse.

          • srylands 7.2.1.1.1

            Sorry are you saying he won’t be appointed under the Foreign Affairs Act? Or are you saying that the job is a poor use of our foreign aid budget? What exactly are you saying? Or are you simply frothing away?

            • Skinny 7.2.1.1.1.1

              Yes McCully reverts to his old form. Shall I start quoting passages of his ‘old form’ from Hollow Men or shall I stick to Muzza getting cracked and demoted for previous sketchy/dodgy appointments. Well aware as Minister of International Holiday he can recommend any sap he wants to be paid on the taxpayers dime.

              I can just picture Matua Muzza & King Dick Jones being carried aloft by natives sitting in high chairs like 2 Budda gods surrounding by topless beauty queens.

          • srylands 7.2.1.1.2

            Also you know full well I am not a spokesperson for the Taxpayers Union. Stop lying. And stop being rude.

            • Skinny 7.2.1.1.2.1

              Strange for some reason I thought you were, my sincere apologises.

              Ok I will show a smidgeon of empathy for you Shrillands, knowing your crews pinup boy ‘Bent Bankie’ is off to the old bailey soon. Just refresh my memory again please what date is that? Oh can understand your fretting and all about a possible by election?

              Anyway I’ve cut you enough slack with niceities above. Now in the event of a by election in the leafy suburb of Epsom. Pondering the idea think I might have to suit up and go house to house door knocking on behalf of the National Party. You know canvassing the Candidate vote. All I need is a party rosette, just to look the full dapper part. The snake oil pitch will be that much easier for the local toffs to digest after the incestuous comments your leader made recently. Don’t worry the party vote is yours, if that is part of the deal. Any hints?

        • bad12 7.2.1.2

          Are you lying to us again SSLands, put up a link to your latest little squeal or have it disbelieved like everything else of supposed fact that you have ever posted here that has been proven to be utter BS…

          • srylands 7.2.1.2.1

            Don’t be so stupid. He will be an ambassador. He will be appointed under the Foreign Affairs Act.

            http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1988/0159/latest/DLM138725.html

            Funny that. Why would the Minister of Foreign Affairs not appoint someone under the Foreign Affairs Act? Which you will see explicitly exempts such appointments from any appeals mechanisms that apply under the State Sector Act.

            And stop being rude and hyperbolic. It is ridiculous the way you carry on when I post something completely factual.

            • Chooky 7.2.1.2.1.1

              surely professional diplomats should become the ambassadors (not wanna be politicians who have burnt their political bridges)?

              …otherwise Foreign Affairs has been corrupted…just like appointing non trained men/women off the street to be teachers ..it undermines education and the professionalism of the teaching profession…not to mention the NZ Education System

              …are we becoming John Key’s NACT haven Banana Republic?

            • freedom 7.2.1.2.1.2

              It’s not the appointment to the post, but the actual creation of the post that needs some questions answered. Are there not processes in place for the creation of Foreign Affairs posts? What quite a few people want to know, is were these processes correctly followed ?
              Is there the expected trail of reports and considerations and costings and proofs that such an investment by our Government would be expected to meet in the creation of what is a not insignificant role in the Pacific theatre.

              From back here in the cheap seats, it all looks pretty dodgy.

              Hopefully, those that know of these things will clarify it all.

  8. greywarbler 8

    A good political discussion this morning well refereed by Kathryn Ryan.

    Matthew H not on instead someone who has passed the speed-talking, confident, know-all speaker test, hardly needs to breathe between the flow of her divinely-sourced oration –

    Mike Williams and Trish Sherson, a former journalist, former press secretary for the ACT party and now runs a PR company.

    • Bearded Git 8.1

      Yes Grey but when Sherson said Labour was in “a shambles” Williams should have jumped in and said just one old MP of dubious value had been bribed to leave the party in a devious manner by McCully, meanwhile 14 MP’s are leavng the sinking National ship. So which party is in a shambles?

      If the narrative is allowed that Labour is in a shambles (which it isn’t) it will stick.

      • Skinny 8.1.1

        What a wet blanket Williams was, fancy running down the handful of MP’s that had the guts to be critical of Jones exit style. Thought his bob each way on the matter was weak, it got insulting when he rambled on about supporters commenting negatively through social media as ‘kamikaze
        stuff’. While he may agree that Jones can go untested slamming the Greens with what is ‘his opinion’, in effect backing National’s narrative of the loony Left.

        I’m affaid it was you that asked to be my F/B friend and quite frankly you have now abused that friendship so on ya bike Mike your deleted.

        • phillip ure 8.1.1.1

          williams supported jones in the leadership race..

          ..he only flipped in the home straight..

          ..to make sure he voted for the winner..?

          .and i have noted before..that the only times williams turns left..

          ..is when he comes out of his driveway..

          ..he is a neo-lib-apologist trout..

      • Jim Nald 8.1.2

        Mike Williams did jump in with a sweet message to some of you lovely souls out there:

        “.. I’d also say to the people who went online saying ‘good riddance’, that is kamikaze stuff, that’s just dumb!”

        14’43” @

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        • Skinny 8.1.2.1

          Jim tell me this, does Labour need the Greens support to form a Government or does Labour need a retiring MP (considering taking a job offer by National) to form a Government?

          Simple question Jim which is it?

          • Jim Nald 8.1.2.1.1

            Quite simple. The former. That would be obvious to Mike Williams?

            Thanks for not ‘kissing’ the messenger (it would have been helpful @ 8.1.2 if the messenger’s facial and vocal expressions could be conveyed online) :-)

        • blue leopard 8.1.2.2

          I would just like to remind Mr Mike Williams that those posting their opinions on this website are not political parties that have to keep to a disciplined line – please discern the difference; they are not political parties they are potential voters. And on this site I am guessing the majority are likely voters of left-wing parties.

          Last time I checked democracy was about representatives noting the viewpoints of ones constituency and taking that into account with ones policies and these days this includes factoring opinion into how one presents ones policies to the public.

          Telling your constituency to shut up doesn’t play any valid part in this important process. Expressing opinion does.

          • Jim Nald 8.1.2.2.1

            Some of the people who are supposed to be commenting ‘for or from the Left’ would do well to be put through and pass the test consistent with Pascal Bookie’s advice.

            Sorry for posting the link again, but here it is … which should be read in full and a key bit is reproduced as follows:

            “In the media, you are the left. Don’t tell activists or blog commenters what we ought to be bloody saying to make your job easier. Your job, is making activists jobs easier. Our job is just being citizens. If you can’t convince us to vote for you, then you have no bloody show of changing swing voters minds (emphasis added)

            “You are not, (if you are a pundit), an academic analysing the left. You are the bloody left as far as the average punter sees things. So you should be attacking the right by highlighting the ways in which the right is out of step with the centre. One fucking job.”

            http://thestandard.org.nz/josie-pagani-replies/#comment-753124

            • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 8.1.2.2.1.1

              What a pity Mr Jones didn’t follow such advice.

          • Chooky 8.1.2.2.2

            +100 blue leopard…and many of the opinions expressed on this and other blog sites are the equal if better than Williams and Hooton

            …after all the contributors here do not have direct appointment /job vested political or monetary interests…because they are generally under pseudonyms…and not broadcasted

          • Ant 8.1.2.2.3

            Blaming blog commenters (not even the bloggers LOL) is weak as.

            Almost as laughable as those who try and tell you not to comment negatively because “our enemies are reading” and will use it against the left, 9 times out of 10 it’s the bloody left pundits using it against the left.

      • Mary 8.1.3

        Sure, but Williams is Jones’ mate so he wouldn’t say that.

        He was exceptionally bad this morning, though. Every answer was as usual prefaced with an “I’m an expert on this so what I say is the truth” but today when asked about the Jones fiasco he said “I’ve actually had time to think about this.” That has to be something straight out of Monty Python. I often wonder when RNZ is going to cut Williams loose for being such an idiot but I guess if they did that we wouldn’t be able to hear gems like that. You could probably get a script for an entire political comedy series just by going back over interviews with Williams.

      • greywarbler 8.1.4

        Bearded Git
        Yes I wasn’t actually looking at Williams. Seems that the elastic that holds him together has loosened and his pants are falling down. Fix that small problem and perhaps he can concentrate and sharpen up his act.

        How do we make application to Radionz for someone better? Surely there is someone sharp and incisive and really interested in the left who will defend and support it when it is trying to do good, and explains it when it falls on its nose. At present it’s a bloody disgrace – the type of comment that is. Labour itself is showing signs of vitality. Hold that mirror close to the face-book!

        As for Mike Williams and kamikaze commenters – there was some film called Dumb and Dumber wasn’t there? He must have been thinking of that.

        • Anne 8.1.4.1

          Surely there is someone sharp and incisive and really interested in the left who will defend and support it when it is trying to do good, and explains it when it falls on its nose.

          Gordon Campbell would be my pick. Not afraid to speak the truth and to do it intelligently and cogently.

  9. Finally got my work disciplinary hearing today.
    Ready to respond to my bosses imaginary tales of subordination, disobedience and breaking employee/employer good faith.
    I have this bloke for falsifying wage date records, claiming I was off sick when I wasn’t, supplying false statements among many other things, all proven and supported by a qualified paper trail, yet I will be ‘due processed’ and no doubt in my mind, dismissed some time after 3.30 this afternoon.

    Shameful stuff, but makes the full hearing more exciting when it eventually happens.

    Party X, the woman who was sexually harassed by the boss is awaiting her date for full hearing after he turned down mediation, so plenty more to come when not bound by confidentiality.
    I’ll do an update when able.

    :)

    • Rosie 9.1

      Good luck with your disciplinary hearing The Allen. Yes, do let us know how you get on.

      • The Al1en 9.1.1

        Thanks for that Rosie.
        My lawyer is busy elsewhere today, so I’ll be unrepresented, though I will have a note taker, and as the outcome of today is already known, hopefully it will be quick.
        I’m not arguing points, other than to deny his version of events. I’ll save that privilege and the several ‘gotcha’ moments for my guy in front of a judge, not him and his legal pitbull, forewarning them of the coming poostorm headed his way.

        • Rosie 9.1.1.1

          Go get ‘em! :D

          You know, it never ceases to amaze me how often socially impaired and unscrupulous people (and even criminally accused) end up as employers in NZ. I seem to have come across more than my fair share of them.

          • Anne 9.1.1.1.1

            Me too Rosie. They don’t like strong women who aren’t too afraid to speak their mind and most of them are psychopathic. My experiences were inside the public service and they knew how to pull the wool over their superior’s eyes.

            • Rosie 9.1.1.1.1.1

              Interesting Anne. My work and the observations of others experiencing inept, bullying, sociopathic managers/bosses have all been in the private sector, mainly SME’s.

              Yes, agree, the male bosses that cause trouble seem to be quite threatened by women who break their stereotype of how a woman should act. They are unsettled by strong and on to it women.

        • Colonial Viper 9.1.1.2

          I’ll be having a quiet pint in your honour tonight, mate.

    • freedom 9.2

      all the best Al1en, sounds like you are in a good head space to deal with it all.

    • Te Reo Putake 9.3

      Good luck! You know you can postpone till lawyer’s ready? And tape it to make sure the notes are accurate. Don’t talk too much and concentrate on the issues in front of you, not other battles. All the best.

    • The Al1en 9.4

      “Go get ‘em!”

      Grrr said the Bulldog breed, chewing at their ankles. :)

      “I’ll be having a quiet pint in your honour tonight, mate.”

      Have two and be damned with the calories. Cheers Tat.

      “all the best Al1en, sounds like you are in a good head space to deal with it all.”

      I am now, thankfully. Had a while to stew on it and get the facts listed, but there’s an end in sight now and I can move on with my head held high, what ever happens.

      “+100″ And infinity and beyond.

      “Good luck! You know you can postpone till lawyer’s ready? And tape it to make sure the notes are accurate. Don’t talk too much and concentrate on the issues in front of you, not other battles. All the best.”

      Cheers TRP, means a lot.

      Got out at 6.15. No decision yet, but betting is closed on the result.
      My boss sat there and never said a word as I had to respond to his bs. At least I got the chance to call him a perverted dirty old man again as I relayed the contents of one of our discussions. Don’t know if it was anger or embarrassment as he turned red, but not unnoticed by the two women present, even if one is ‘on his side’.

      Any one in Hamilton got a 20 hour a week job going? Ask my ex wife, I’m cheap. :)

      • McFlock 9.4.1

        good work, and good luck :)

      • weka 9.4.2

        “At least I got the chance to call him a perverted dirty old man again”

        :-D

        You’re an inspiration mate.

        • The Al1en 9.4.2.1

          I said it three times during the meeting, and when asked by his disgruntled lawyer if I thought having a quiet word with the owner of a subletting business, responsible for the well being of his mainly young female employees left alone in the building after closing time was more important than breaching the employer employee relationship? I said of course it was, and I’d have done the same if were my father, brother or son who was the sexual predator. Adding, ask every dad of those girls what they think what I did before condemning me on this man’s hurt feelings. My conscience is perfectly clear.

          Inspiring? More just a day in the life, but nearly all done and dusted now.
          Waiting for the the Dear Al1en email tomorrow.

          • Rosie 9.4.2.1.1

            Awesome! Love ya work :D

            • The Al1en 9.4.2.1.1.1

              You mustn’t be talking about me songs then. :lol:

              I feel a bit sorry for the person who clicked my Alien link today and got ‘Little bird I’m a worm’ for their wanton clickery.
              Just hope their speakers were turned way down low and I don’t get a subpoena for earhole gbh.

              I do appreciate the sentiments and comments here, and of course, the opportunity for a bit of anonymous venting on my part.
              Cosmic love to you all…. Except PG :lol:

      • miravox 9.4.3

        If people always got what they deserve your manager would be out of a job, not you worrying about yours, Al1en. All the best for the next few weeks as this plays out.

        • The Al1en 9.4.3.1

          The manager is the owner, and if people really got what they deserved, he’d be in stocks in the town square for a week and on a pervo register for life, banned from employing female staff.

          I have just had a mail from my lawyer tonight, in reply to the allegation he made a week or two ago, whilst I was on sick leave, they forgot to ask about in this afternoons meeting.

          Q. Did I give the finger to him as our cars passed at approx 8.20am, outside my daughter’s school?
          A. No, of course not, but if I’d actually been there as claimed, I would have waved, though an angincourt long bowman’s response could have also been a valid option.

  10. Bill 10

    A while ago I asked my doctor if they could script me nicotine. They checked and found that they couldn’t. (Only able to script highly subsidised, pharmaceutical profit generating, gum, patches etc) I vape. I import the nicotine and mix my own liquids (~2% nicotine, 10-15% food grade flavouring and the rest made up of vegetable glycerine). Total weekly cost is about $2. Health benefits? Feel a lot better.

    Meanwhile, I’m constantly coming across shit in newspapers and elsewhere claiming that vaping is not a way to get off tobacco and nicotine.

    In NZ, ASH and just about every agency decries vaping. Meanwhile, in the UK….

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/apr/28/e-cigarette-users-triple-ash-survey

    The anti-tobacco charity Ash (Action on Smoking and Health) says the number of e-cigarette users has tripled from 700,000 in 2012. Nearly two-thirds of users are smokers and the other third are ex-smokers, Ash says, while use of the devices among non-smokers is negligible, at only 0.1%

    “While it is important to control the advertising of electronic cigarettes to make sure children and non-smokers are not being targeted, there is no evidence from our research that e-cigarettes are acting as a gateway into smoking.”

    A study from University College London earlier this month had similar findings. The Smoking Toolkit Study carried out in England found that e-cigarettes were taking over from nicotine gum and patches as an aid to giving up smoking.

    The leader of that study, Professor Robert West, said: “Despite claims that use of electronic cigarettes risks renormalising smoking, we found no evidence to support this view. On the contrary, electronic cigarettes may be helping to reduce smoking as more people use them as an aid to quitting.”

    • blue leopard 10.1

      Ta for the links Raa, they look great!

      • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 10.1.1

        Weird, sorry Bill, that comment of mine clearly was put in the wrong place :)

    • just saying 10.2

      Laurie Penny:

      http://www.newstatesman.com/2013/12/its-not-harming-anyone-so-why-brussels-trying-remove-my-robot-cigarette

      The idea that e-cigarettes should be subject to the same restrictions as the leaf-burning variety once again confuses ethics with petty moral panic. To encourage addicts not to indulge their addiction where it might cause harm to children or the sick is ethical. To claim, as some do, that evidence of addiction is itself offensive and unsightly is simple prudishness. I find it unsightly when otherwise attractive young men grow ridiculous hipster moustaches but I would stop short of regulating public display of facial hair. I just avoid certain bars during Movember.

      You can take my fake smokes from my warm, blood-beating hands. No, really, you probably can take them, if “you” are the EU, or the state of New York. We cannot have a compassionate, effective policy on drugs and addiction without starting from a place of compassion, and if our stance on smoking stops with an idea of moral weakness, we have forfeited compassion. Now, stick that in your flashing electronic pipe and smoke it.

      edit: what I find weirdly inconsistent is those anti-smoking fanatics who find e-cigarettes so offensive, aren’t bothered if nicotine is chewed in gum. They just can’t seem to get their heads around people wanting to smoke and being able to do so relatively safely – for themselves and those around them. It offends their snobbish sensitivities.

      • weka 10.2.1

        E-cigs are not harmless. The exhaled vapour can be problematic for people with chemical sensitivities. I find it probably as bad to be around as cigarette smoke (albeit in a different way). I think vaping is an excellent alternative for smokers, but let’s not pretend that it doesn’t have effects including secondhand ones.

        Unfortunately the person whose story you linked to doesn’t know what she is talking about when she says

        And that’s where the prospect of a ban on e-cigs, whose vapour is lighter than tobacco smoke, and rarely reaches the lungs of another person, makes no sense. It’s not about public health. It’s about morality.

        She might be right about who is lobbying against vaping in terms of morality (I don’t know, haven’t looked at what the ban is about), but that degree of ignorance about health makes her whole argument suspect.

    • I have a co-worker who vapes, and I find the process fascinating. It’s certainly counter-intuitive to me to suggest that vaping would normalise or encourage leaf-smoking – the whole taste/smell experience is completely different.

  11. Raa 11

    Meditations on a rock star as prime minister

    Is he copying Mick Jagger’s moves ?

    No one seems to have read Ehrenreich’s demolition of positive political psychology …

    http://getebook.org/?p=6353

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113758696

    http://kickass.to/bright-sided-how-positive-thinking-is-undermining-america-ideusex-t7809713.html

    http://www.ebook3000.com/Bright-sided–How-the-Relentless-Promotion-of- Positive-Thinking-Has-Undermined-America_113335.html

    http://vimeo.com/7346047 (video ~ 1 hr.).

  12. Raa 12

    Amid Devastation of Aleppo, Syria, Archaeological Museum Fights to Preserve Heritage

    Curators at Aleppo National Museum Struggle to Protect Ancient Heritage From Civil War’s Destruction

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304626304579507231417505084?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304626304579507231417505084.html

  13. Rosie 13

    Can’t disagree with what Le’aufa’amulia Asenati Lole-Taylor from NZ First has to say about Dunne’s lack of action on legal highs and the call for his resignation. (Not that he would go mind, he will cling on desperately, even if his fingers are bleeding as he slips away from the centre of power to the edge).

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1404/S00409/dunne-should-resign.htm

    • “The number of people using legal highs is now vast and families, communities, police and hospitals must now deal with a new stream of addicted users.

      Do you agree with this claim?

      • freedom 13.1.1

        The number of people using alcohol is now vast and families, communities, police and hospitals must now deal with an ongoing stream of addicted users.

        Do you agree with this claim ?

        • Pete George 13.1.1.1

          Yes, but the problem there is not just with addicted users, there’s vast problems caused by casual users as well.

          Over the weekend locally one young person killed in a drink related car accident and one died after an assault in a bar toilet.

          This problem is much larger – and more difficult to find solutions to. There’s no ‘safer natural alcohol’ option that’s being kept illegal.

          • freedom 13.1.1.1.1

            Why do you think those deaths were linked to casual use? How do you know they were not problem drinking related? If they were linked to casual use, then surely that only suggests alcohol is very unsafe.

            so you know the question that comes next….

            Why have you not stood up and called for the complete banning of alcohol sales until it is fully tested, found to be safe, and proper resources for the treatment of its addicts and victims can be established?

            A call for sense and reason, like you sort-of-almost posted on your blog.
            http://yournz.org/2014/04/28/not-our-finest-hour-on-drugs/
            (folks might like to scroll down the home page too for a pithy little posting about The Standard’s 14k posts)

            why can’t we see Collins in the emergency room on a Saturday night looking at the alcohol damage?

            -note how he quotes it, but won’t say it himself.

            I know it is not an appetizing destination on a cold wet Monday, but thought the opening line of his post also deserved a little direct attention.

            Stephen J goes against the political flow at The Standard on the sudden rush to ban currently legal psychoactive substances, saying “there has been a moral panic based on nothing more than a few horror stories in the press”

            Quite the unsubstantiated claim there Pete George. And no external links of course.

            • Pete George 13.1.1.1.1.1

              I didn’t say those incidents were due to casual use, obviously there’s a potential problem with both of them. Everyone knows alcohol can be unsafe. In the vast majority of cases it’s used safely, but with the number of users (80% of the adult population from memory) there’s a big number of problems compared to other drugs with smaller numbers of users.

              Why have you not stood up and called for the complete banning of alcohol sales until it is fully tested, found to be safe, and proper resources for the treatment of its addicts and victims can be established?

              Have you? Has anyone recently?

              I haven’t because it wouldn’t work and would have major adverse effects to our society. And most people are responsible and safe users of alcohol.

              Depending on the threshold it may not be found safe enough (for significant numbers of users) if it was a new product. But trying to compare something that has been entrenched in human societies for thousands of years to products created in laboratories this century is ridiculous.

              I don’t know what your point is. Should I only speak up on one thing if I also speak up on anything that someone suggests might be remotely related?

              Why are you challenging and questioning me when you aren’t challenging and questioning everyone else here? Aren’t you being a bit selective?

              • freedom

                Most others don’t carry the same stink of sanctimonious hypocrisy.

                The only thing more easily quantified than the lack of integrity in your statements for a better world, is the apathy of the spirit within them.

              • felix

                “I don’t know what your point is. Should I only speak up on one thing if I also speak up on anything that someone suggests might be remotely related?”

                Depends. Are you interested in ends?

                Or only in means?

                • felix

                  Also, the other day when I raised the matter of how our culture glorifies and encourages the ritual of weekly wreckings, you pretty much denied it was that big of a deal.

                  So it’s a bit fucking rich of you now to start whinging about the death and violence surrounding our socially acceptable drug abuse.

                  I eagerly await you shoving it all back on the individuals involved and denying, as usual, any interconnectedness and any context.

          • Rosie 13.1.1.1.2

            Pete. Somehow my reply to you ended up as a reply to me. My reply is at 13.2

      • Skinny 13.1.2

        What a stupid question Pete. Obviously this was going to happen, where was the prevention is better than cure mentality? This should have been put to bed years ago at the start of this dirty trade? And low and behold it’s an election year and the National Government finally act. Where was their coalition partner the Maori party, while all this was allowed to happen? You know the one so strongly opposed to that other (legal) drug tobacco.

        Now Key-National are taking the piss at us by trying to mop up soft votes by blaming the delay on ‘the animal testing issue.’ After performing rather badly this morning when interviewed Key comes out with this gem. I knew for the cruel animal testing reason they should have banned them altogether. Be little arguments there.

    • Rosie 13.2

      Whoah. You talking to me Pete? We don’t talk, that’s the arrangement, no matter how provocative you are.

      I guess you are trying to lead me down one of your traps with your question. If you ask me if legal highs are damaging people’s lives, relationships and health then I would say yes and yes I want them banned.

      It’s also bleeding obvious that the announcement to ban them is cynically timed and is a platform for a game of one upmanship – that is the issue with Dunne and the Government. Nothing more than race to be “The Good Guy” and a pathetic grab at a diminishing vote come election time.

  14. Red Rosa 14

    Maybe this has been missed. Apologies if pointed out above.

    The Nats are gifting one of the safest seats in the country to a brat fresh from lobbying for Big Tobacco.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11245502

    Even for them, this has to be a low point. Don’t they have any values at all, even economic?

    Tobacco is costing the country millions, maybe hundreds of millions, each year in direct healthcare costs. Lung cancer, heart disease, emphysema, etc. All costly to fix, if they don’t kill you.

    Plus premature deaths as above, innocent passive smoking victims…well… all that aside…

    He must be a slick customer. And Key and Collins must be proud of him.

    • thechangeling 14.1

      This is clear evidence of the connection between the National Party and big Tobacco corporations that I would have thought they would stay clear of:

      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/polls/9984445/Ex-lobbyist-to-contest-Englishs-seat

      Todd Barclay has blood on his and now (if they didn’t have it before which I seriously doubt) the National Party’s hands.

      • Jim Nald 14.1.1

        Ex-Gore High Sch Boy and Karori resident’s intern. Been doing the rounds for Office of the Prime Story-Maker, the immensely talented multitasker Brownlee, and was last Paratised at the Beehive. He was out and about in the corp comms world the past year or so. Now shepherded into the MP-in-absentia’s seat.

        He is a fine puppet chap.

        • Anne 14.1.1.1

          Now let me tell you what I detect based on his photo.

          Arrogant, conceited, snotty nosed spoilt brat only a few years out of nappies. Knows nothing about anything and never will. Would steal the last blanket from his old grandmother’s bed and leave her with none in the middle of winter. Has a mediocre brain but plenty of guile and cunning. Perfect attributes for an up and coming Nat. political star.

            • Rosie 14.1.1.1.1.1

              Oh FFS! Look at that smarmy kid. I bet you’re right in your assessment of his personality Anne.

              • Colonial Viper

                The only way you get to be corporate affairs manager for a major firm like Phillip Morris at 24 years old, especially with only public sector parliamentary experience on your CV, is through personal networks, mentors and sponsors.

                • I find it interesting his CV has nearly two years as “intern” in English’s office. Was this an unpaid internship? There’s a lot of discussion going on in the US at the moment, where it’s a far more common practice, about how unpaid internships are really only available to the kids from wealthy families who can afford to work for free. (There’s another thread, about how many organisations now use unpaid internships as a permanent source of free labour and very few genuine opportunities for interns to move into paid positions, but that’s obviously not the case here.)

                • anker

                  @CV I will add one further criteria to how you get toTodd B, position. Be without a conscience and we all know what that means. It begins with P

                  • Colonial Viper

                    Yes, these kinds of organisations deliberately screen for, and fast track promote, those particular kinds of people.

          • Not Petey 14.1.1.1.2

            [deleted]

            [lprent: Let me tell you what I detect from your comment. It is pointless abuse. Do it again and you won't be able to comment here for some time. This is your warning.

            Read the policy. ]

          • greywarbler 14.1.1.1.3

            Anne
            Very percipient not to say prescient. And he probably doesn’t know what either means because neither of them start with $.

    • karol 14.2

      From the Blingish-Brownlee-Joyce school of economics, business and politics.

      Stat-skewing, bully-boy, smarmy cronyist approach to politics.

    • Clemgeopin 14.3

      Will be interesting to see how many of the Dipton voters will give their votes to this young lad of 24.

      At the last election, of 29,365 electorate votes, English got 19,726, a big lead of 14,915.
      There were 773 informal votes!

      http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/election-2011/6041227/Clutha-Southland-update

  15. this one is kinda interesting..

    ..a former australian tory prime minister..fraser..

    ..is now urging australia to cut all military ties with america..

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38345.htm

  16. thechangeling 16

    Another attack by a messenger of the right-wing on the validity or otherwise of the Living Wage:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/opinion-analysis/9985312/Living-wage-reinvents-the-wheel

  17. and it’s been an intense few days..wot with shane/legal-highs..

    ..a little bit of light-relief is called for..

    ..here are ten well-written/funny demolitions of crap..but over-rated albums from the 90’s..

    ..this on red hot chilli peppers:

    “..George Clinton and the Minutemen alchemically combined by completely talentless frat rock morons –

    into bone dumb funk punk – minus the funk.

    As usual the ballad (“Breaking the Girl”) goes above and beyond in its remorseless pursuit of maudlin tuneless shittiness –

    and emo-tough gibberish ..”

    http://www.salon.com/2014/04/26/the_10_most_overrated_albums_of_the_90s/

  18. Some discussion points.

    Schedule of inaccuracies in David Parker interview on The Nation – April 26 2014

    1. “Export prices are going down”

    Export prices in fact rose 13.8 per cent in the year to December 2013 (Statistics New Zealand).

    The ANZ NZD Commodity Price Index rose 11.6 per cent in the year to March 2014 and is just 6 per cent below its all-time March 2011 peak.

    2. “We are not covering the cost of our imports (and interest)”

    Statistics New Zealand reported a merchandise trade surplus for New Zealand in the year to February 2014 of $649 million (1.3 per cent of exports).

    January and February’s merchandise trade surpluses were the highest ever for their respective months.

    3. “We are losing jobs in the export sector”

    The number of people employed in the agriculture, forestry, fisheries, mining and manufacturing sectors has increased by 16,100 in the last twelve months.

    Total New Zealand employment increased by 66,000 in the last year or 3.0 per cent in one year. This is the fastest employment growth since December 2006. (Statistics New Zealand Household Labour Force Survey December 2013).

    4. “This challenge of getting New Zealand’s current account deficit under control”

    New Zealand’s balance of payments deficit is currently 3.4 per cent and has averaged only 3.1 per cent over the last four years.

    Under Labour the Balance of Payments peaked at 7.9 per cent in December quarter 2008 and averaged 7 per cent over their last four years.

    New Zealand’s Net International Investment Position is currently down to 67 per cent of GDP after peaking at 85.9 per cent in March 2009.

    5. “Ridiculously high interest rates”

    Interest rates have just edged up above 50-year lows.

    Floating mortgage interest rates are currently between 6 and 6.25 per cent. They peaked at 10.9 per cent between May and August 2008.

    6. “Exporters…. Aren’t willing to invest in plant”

    Investment in plant, machinery and equipment by New Zealand companies was up 7.5 per cent in the December quarter and 3 per cent for the year. Investment in plant, machinery and equipment is now at its highest level ever (Statistics New Zealand – December quarter 2013 GDP release).

    Just yesterday, long term New Zealand forestry processor Oji Limited announced a $1 billion investment to purchase Carter Holt Harvey Processing assets.

    7. “House prices are up 40 per cent under them”

    House prices under this government have increased at around 5.7 per cent per annum, compared to 10.7 per cent per annum under Labour, according to REINZ figures. Total house price increases over the period is 30 per cent, not the 40 per cent Mr Parker claims. That compares with a 96 per cent increase in house prices under Labour.

    8. “You need to tax the speculators. They are not taxing speculators”

    Taxpayers who buy and sell houses for income are currently taxed at their personal income tax rate on their capital income.

    9. “They are not building any more houses”

    The actual trend for the number of new dwellings, including apartments, is up 95 per cent from the series minimum in March 2011.

    The trend is at its highest level since October 2007 (Statistics New Zealand February 2014 Building Consents Release).

    http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/parker-wrong-nine-times-one-interview

    I hope Parker responds to these counter-points. Some of those are disputable or subjective.

    • Tigger 18.1

      PG your. ‘Facts’ need context. For example, 7. What figures are you quoting? One street, the whole country?

      • Ant 18.1.1

        His whole right-wing spin factchecking bullshit would fall apart if he kept his ‘facts’ in context.

    • Te Reo Putake 18.2

      Firstly, great to see confirmation of the right wing, anti-labour bias of the fuctchecker in chief. Secondly, Oji is not a NZ company. Look it up, it’s a Japanese group, named after a Japanese city, who happen to have a NZ arm. Guess where the profits go, Pete … c’mon, you’re a clever boy …. It’s just as likely to be buying the opposition with a mind to closing them down.

    • Colonial Viper 18.3

      2. “We are not covering the cost of our imports (and interest)”

      Statistics New Zealand reported a merchandise trade surplus for New Zealand in the year to February 2014 of $649 million (1.3 per cent of exports).

      January and February’s merchandise trade surpluses were the highest ever for their respective months.

      Look mate, the chronic current account deficit is clearly what Parker is referring to here, don’t know why the fuck you would narrow it down to the “merchandise trade” balance.

      6. “Exporters…. Aren’t willing to invest in plant”

      Just yesterday, long term New Zealand forestry processor Oji Limited announced a $1 billion investment to purchase Carter Holt Harvey Processing assets.

      Purchase of existing assets is not new investment. It’s just moving existing assets around to someone elses balance sheet. Big fucking deal.

      • miravox 18.3.1

        “Purchase of existing assets is not new investment. It’s just moving existing assets around to someone elses balance sheet. Big fucking deal.”

        Anyway, why would they invest in plant while people are so cheap?

    • Don’t you think it’s a little dishonest to copy-and-paste an attack piece by Steven Joyce under the heading ‘Some discussion points’? Isn’t this the sort of thing Politicheck should be fact-checking instead of fodder for you to run off to another site and breathlessly report on people’s predictably annoyed responses?

      • Pete George 18.4.1

        I think you’re getting a bit try-hard. It’s obviously a quote with an obvious link.

        How about you do what you want to do and not keep trying to tell me what you think I should do. This is Open Mike. Discuss or ignore is the standard practice isn’t it? Otherwise you are in danger of becoming yet another member of a tryhard tag team that disrupts threads with irrelevancies and then complains about the disruption.

        • Te Reo Putake 18.4.1.1

          :roll:

        • felix 18.4.1.2

          Oh look, Pete George telling a Standard author what to do.

          :roll:

          [lprent: OpenMike and not a particularly personal attack. Didn't trigger the instincts. ]

          • miravox 18.4.1.2.1

            “Otherwise you are in danger of becoming yet another member of a try hard tag team that disrupts threads with irrelevancies and then complains about the disruption.”

            Nah… That’s a self-deprecating joke, right? :roll:

        • marty mars 18.4.1.3

          Learned to use quotation marks now eh pete – lol – what a dishonest wanker you are. You are yet another member of a tryhard rightwing tag team that disrupts threads with irrelevancies and then complains about people not liking it.

          • Pete George 18.4.1.3.1

            Very funny mm. What’s this supposed to be, a place to debate things or not? To some it is. Others seem more intent on attacking any message or messenger they don’t like in order to shut down debate.

            And it’s somewhat hypocritical for you to accuse of dishonesty. You make things up to try and disrupt and discredit. That’s called lying. You lie to try and shut down debate on things you don’t want talked about. That’s gutless. And it’s counterproductive. Thanks for drawing attention to things.

            that disrupts threads with irrelevancies

            The deputy leader of the opposition who wants to be Minister of Finance making false and/or misleading claims is irrelevant?

            • felix 18.4.1.3.1.1

              No actually Pete, this is not a place for you to debate anything you like.

              Read. The. Fucking. About.

              The purpose of this site has been pointed out to you many, many times but you still treat it as your own personal soapbox.

              The only possible conclusions are:

              1) you haven’t bothered to read it. which would make you an arrogant prick.
              2) you read it and didn’t understand it, which would make you an idiot.
              3) you read it and ignored it, which would make you a tr0ll (and an arrogant prick).

              My guess is 3. Also you’re an idiot.

              • You should read About felix. Then try reading Rules.

                Rules

                We encourage robust debate and we’re tolerant of dissenting views. But this site run for reasonably rational debate between dissenting viewpoints and we intend to keep it operating that way.

                What we’re not prepared to accept are pointless personal attacks, or tone or language that has the effect of excluding others. We are intolerant of people starting or continuing flamewars where there is little discussion or debate. This includes making assertions that you are unable to substantiate with some proof (and that doesn’t mean endless links to unsubstantial authorities) or even argue when requested to do so.

                The bar is high because we like robust debate, but there is a bar.

                Some are more tolerant of dissenting views than others.

                • felix

                  Oh, you have “views”?

                  That’s odd, you’ve been saying for ages that you don’t necessarily agree or disagree with the tripe you copypasta from the National party and kiwiblog.

                  Guess you were lying.

                • It’s interesting that you didn’t continue your bolding into the second sentence, which I would consider relevant to the discussion at hand.

            • One Anonymous Bloke 18.4.1.3.1.2

              :roll:

              “…false and/or misleading…”

              You forgot “or true”, and your bias/dishonesty/bad faith is showing. Again.

            • marty mars 18.4.1.3.1.3

              “Thanks for drawing attention to things.”

              Thanks for thanking me but I don’t require any thanks from the likes of you.

              “You lie to try and shut down debate on things you don’t want talked about.”

              I think you’re talking to yourself there pete – pretty soon you’ll be moaning, “why doesn’t anybody take me seriously” and when people explain why, you’ll start your denial cycle all over again.

        • Please don’t try to use slang, Pete, it’s a little sad. Especially when you try to use it twice to put me down.

          It’s very clear that you have not presented that quote in a transparent way. Like infomercials putting ‘results not typical’ in unreadably small type at the bottom of the screen, you have made a deliberate effort to get people to read your comment under false pretences. You are the person disrupting the conversation here and I am choosing not to ignore your obvious attempts to stir shit up.

      • felix 18.4.2

        Pete is a non-partisan fact-checker who is only trying to stimulate discussion. In the interests of balance he copypastas National Party press releases and kiwiblog comments.

        • Draco T Bastard 18.4.2.1

          :twisted: :lol:

        • North 18.4.2.2

          Hey yous stop attackin’ PGTipsy on the Legals aye don’t ya know he the most araldite fulla un NooZilnd he the Dag of The Hair don’t ya know when ya feelin’ bit Psychoactive Psychoactive feelin’ they draggin’ ya ‘way from 35 year at The Trough shit stick to that fulla better than a blanket mate Jeez’ me glad that dairy closin’ tomoromoromoro awwh shucks thanks The Hair and PeeGee I owes yous guys………

  19. Philj 19

    xox
    What legal or illegal substances can explain PG ‘s thinking(?)?

  20. joe90 20

    The Mastersons – “Birds Fly South” – were great – Steve Earle & The Dukes – “Pocket Full of Rain” – were magnificent. That is all.

    • Tony Parker 20.1

      In Wellington last night? It was good. Worth the trip down from Napier. Better than the last time I saw him. This band is probably his best for covering all his bases. Liked his little talk about noticing more and more American ideas/influences happening here now than when he was here before especially with regards to the environment. Got some applause for that but I bet half the people clapping will still vote for this current government.

      • joe90 20.1.1

        Yup, last night and fortunately I brought earplugs so I was able to muffle the bass/double bass which was a little too unfiltered for my ears but a great show with Eleanor Whitmore’s voice a real highlight.

        As for the the audience and their reaction, rather uniform although I suspect I fitted right in, the Chris Masterton quip about the Texas filibuster went clean over most heads so I think you might be correct.

        • Tony Parker 20.1.1.1

          I think the biggest culprit soundwise was the kick drum from where I was sitting. The bass was inaudible at times.

        • joe90 20.1.1.2

          Sitting a half dozen seats left of centre in row L, around two thirds of the way back, and being just under the balcony was probably why the bass was so dominant. Drums were fine though and vocals from the left of stage crisp and sharp whereas Steve’s Pocket Full Of Rain (my favourite) vocals from right of stage were the only real low spot.

    • Tony Parker 20.2

      In Wellington last night? It was good. Worth the trip down from Napier. Better than the last time I saw him. This band is probably his best for covering all his bases. Liked his little talk about noticing more and more American ideas/influences happening here now than when he was here before especially with regards to the environment. Got some applause for that but I bet half the people clapping will still vote for this current government.

    • Tony Parker 20.3

      In Wellington last night? It was good. Worth the trip down from Napier. Better than the last time I saw him. This band is probably his best for covering all his bases. Liked his little talk about noticing more and more American ideas/influences happening here now than when he was here before especially with regards to the environment. Got some applause for that but I bet half the people clapping will still vote for this current government.

  21. Tony Parker 21

    Sorry folks. No idea why that posted 3 times!

  22. ScottGN 22

    Probably my excitable imagination but it seemed to me that in TVNZ’s piece on legal highs/animal testing tonight Key said ‘tha-lido-mide’ very carefully and very slowly. Can’t afford to trip up over the big words and have everyone think you’re a dummy?

    • ianmac 22.1

      I really think that Mr Key has pronunciation problems for words more than 2 syllables. I have watched/listened carefully. As soon as he meets this problem he mumbles/slurs. No doubt he knows and understands all the words but has I think a sort of impediment. Sort of verbal dyslexia.

  23. Ron 23

    News flash!
    Exciting candidate elected to represent Labour in the Upper Harbour electorate. Should prove great opponent for Benefit and the guy that doubts Moon walk.
    Details tomorrow

    • Jim Nald 23.1

      Sounds good. Looking forward to the announcement and hoping for a pleasant surprise!

      Btw, tomorrow is when Parker will speak about “monetary policy”?

      It would be really good if Cunliffe and his team also update and generate the kind of videos like the ones he did years ago, eg ‘Own Our Future': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjyHctIljPM

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    I gave the ODT my thoughts on "The Moment of Truth" event last night - the tl;dr of which is that there are some important questions about the issue of data collection and surveillance to be addressed, but that the...
    Pundit | 16-09
  • Political joke of the week…
    . NEWSFLASH: Dotcom email almost certainly a fake, says handwriting expert hired by the National party!   . . = fs =Filed under: On A Lighter Note, The Body Politic Tagged: Dear Leader lies through his teeth, GCSB, Hollywood, Kim...
    Frankly Speaking | 16-09
  • Political joke of the week…
    . NEWSFLASH: Dotcom email almost certainly a fake, says handwriting expert hired by the National party!   . . = fs =Filed under: On A Lighter Note, The Body Politic Tagged: Dear Leader lies through his teeth, GCSB, Hollywood, Kim...
    Frankly Speaking | 16-09
  • A Working Majority
    Constitutional Guardian: Only the person who can assure the Governor-General Sir Jerry Mateparae, that he or she commands a majority on the floor of the House of Representatives has the right to assume the office of Prime Minister. If John...
    Bowalley Road | 16-09
  • Stuart’s 100 #27 Civic Uses for a Civic Asset
    27: Civic Uses for a Civic Asset What if we found better uses for the old Beach Road Rail Station? Continuing the series on forgotten and under-utilised spaces in the city, some of them, like the former Beach Road Railway...
    Transport Blog | 16-09
  • A Matter of Simple Logic
    One of the few journalists to do his job properly over the course of the dirty politics scandal has been Guyon Espiner. He has, without in any way breaching his duty of impartiality, seen it as his responsibility on Morning...
    Bryan Gould | 16-09
  • Eminem Publishers Sue New Zealand National Party
    Ha! Those of us who thought, Gee, that sounds pretty close to Eminem … Will the real Slim Shady please stand up? - P h/t: Radio NZ’s Chris Bramwell...
    The Paepae | 16-09
  • I am so sick of this obvious lie, pt 2
    Another obvious lie too many National supporters believe is that Labour are bad for employment (because they raise the minimum wage too fast), and National have “solved unemployment” (because they’ve made it harder to maintain benefits): Now, it is true that Labour raise the minimum wage much...
    Cut your hair | 16-09
  • Advance voting again
    Another day, more incredible advance voting statistics: 287,735 of us have already voted. And with four days to go, I think we can safely assume that it will reach 650,000. Which on current enrolment figures, means almost 20% of the...
    No Right Turn | 16-09
  • Maritime Union backs change of Government to put workers first
    A change of Government is required to deliver secure jobs and decent wages for New Zealand workers....
    MUNZ | 16-09
  • A solid policy
    While National is teasing people with promises of tax cuts maybe sometime, the Greens have introduced another small but solid policy: a maternity box. Based on the Finnish maternity box (which reduced their infant mortality and is one of the...
    No Right Turn | 16-09
  • “Hello, David Cunliffe calling!”
    It’s a familiar campaign scene at Fraser House, Labour’s HQ. Around 30 volunteers are staffing the phone canvassing banks. There’s lots of familiar faces - Rama, Paul, Jessie, David, to name but a few. David, coffee cup in hand, has...
    Labour campaign | 16-09
  • Just because I can….
    "Listen, we have to stop doing these tobacco sponsored modelling jobs - we're starting to look like cadavers.""I tell you, my corset's so tight I can't breathe and I think my stomach just emptied into my lungs."Woman thinks: "Lord I'm...
    Te Whare Whero | 16-09
  • John Key’s Top 69 Lies: Today no. 4: New Zealanders have never been subje...
     Without a doubt - Key  Snowden: New Zealand’s Prime Minister Isn’t Telling the Truth About Mass Surveillance   Derek Cheng: Guest star leaves it all out there     ...
    Arch Rival | 16-09
  • Who’s Running The Show & In Whose Interests?
    A video of the CAFCA (Campaign Against Foreign Control – Aotearoa) pre-election tour presentation....
    Watchblog Aotearoa | 16-09
  • Getting out the vote!
      It’s a lovely sunny morning in Hamilton as we pull up with the big red bus at Wintec, the local polytechnic. Early polling booths had officially opened today at Wintec, and I was excited to see how long the...
    Labour campaign | 16-09
  • One of the more populist catch phrases of the Left in this election has been to ‘feed the kids’. With both the Greens and Internet Mana backing the policy, it seems to be a vote winner for politicians. But is...
    Gareth’s World | 16-09
  • The difference between Traffic Engineers and Planners
    We often deride traffic engineers for the road dominant nature of Auckland. Sometimes this can be a bit unfair as we know not all engineers are bad and the term is often be a bit of a catch all phrase for those involved in...
    Transport Blog | 16-09
  • With enemies like these…
    An analysis of Kim Dotcom's big event....
    Imperator Fish | 16-09
  • NZ Inc: Frightening the invisible horses of the market
    Today’s anonymous Herald editorial is scathing of Labour’s NZ Inc policy, which defies all logic and reason by assuming that there are better ways to build our economy than flogging off profitable assets, built by New Zealanders, to foreign investors....
    Boots Theory | 16-09
  • Speaker: In Tribute: Peter Gutteridge and the Hypnotic Groove
    Peter Gutteridge changed my life. In December 1988 I came to Dunedin on holiday for a week from my hometown of Gisborne. I was eager to see some of the fabled Dunedin bands live and I couldn’t have timed it...
    Public Address | 16-09
  • Wendyl Nissen leaves NewstalkZB
    Despite the Prime Minister attempting to downplay the serious issues raised by Dirty Politics, a month on from Nicky Hager's book release and we're still learning more about those who were adversely effected by the numerous Whale Oil smear campaigns...
    The Jackal | 15-09
  • The big picture: Who precisely is monitoring us, and is the GCSB in cahoots...
    The destruction of Dotcom’s credibility last night is a real shame, not because I have any great sympathy for the man (I don’t), but because the wrecking ball that just swung back and collected him will now distract for the very important questions...
    Occasionally erudite | 15-09
  • Thumbs up for the Green Party’s water policy
    At the weekend the Green Party  announced a policy about irrigation – they would charge farmers for the water they use. They’re going to be criticised for saying it, but my word, we all owe them a word of thanks...
    Gareth’s World | 15-09
  • The Chewbacca defence
    People may remember this old South Park classic. Faced with a case he cannot win, a lawyer attempts to distract the jury by introducing irrelevant material and claiming it's a defence. That's pretty much what John Key has done over...
    No Right Turn | 15-09
  • Hard News: Vision and dumbassery
    Part way through last night, the Moment of Truth event at the Auckland Town Hall felt history-making. Journalist Glenn Greenwald had presented documentary evidence -- not a lot, and it was more blasted Powerpoint slides, but easily enough to be...
    Public Address | 15-09
  • The small picture: Dotcom blows it
    For what seems like the longest time, Kim Dotcom has sworn black and blue that he has documentary evidence that categorically proves John Key a liar. John Key has repeated time and again that he had no knowledge of Dotcom...
    Occasionally erudite | 15-09
  • The Moment of Truth
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    The Jackal | 15-09
  • Key left holding the SPEARGUN
    What was by far the most important revelation to come out of the Moment of Truth was Edward Snowden's information about SPEARGUN, which was a project completed in mid 2013 to tap the Southern Cross cable. There is no doubt...
    The Jackal | 15-09
  • Arrest the NSA
    Last night's "Moment of Truth" produced only one big revelation: according to NSA leaker Edward Snowden, the NSA have two bases in New Zealand: one in Auckland and in the north. Lets be clear: if the NSA are intercepting communications...
    No Right Turn | 15-09
  • Allegations re mass surveillance by NZ’s GCSB
    Here are the articles published by Glenn Greenwald and Edward Snowden about mass surveillance of New Zealand citizens by spy agencies that form part of the FIVE EYES intelligence alliance. These were released in the lead up to the anyway-you-look-at-it...
    The Paepae | 15-09
  • The smoking SPEARGUN
    To me the big reveal yesterday wasn’t in the ‘Moment of Truth’ event, it was in Glen Greenwald’s column on The Intercept, and it was this excerpt from an NSA planning document: So during the huge, bitter debate about the new...
    DimPost | 15-09
  • The smoking SPEARGUN
    To me the big reveal yesterday wasn’t in the ‘Moment of Truth’ event, it was in Glen Greenwald’s column on The Intercept, and it was this excerpt from an NSA planning document: So during the huge, bitter debate about the new...
    DimPost | 15-09
  • The cost of a bowl of Weet-Bix
    One of the most dishonest arguments the right ever put forward on the subject of poverty is around one of the simplest things in life: a bowl of Weet-Bix. Yesterday Nikki Kaye approvingly re-posted a letter to the editor which...
    Boots Theory | 15-09
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: The OIA Gambit
    . . - Frank Macskasy & ‘Hercules’ What appears to be an orchestrated  Beehive plot to dig dirt for throwing at Labour leader, David Cunliffe, ahead of a crucial parliamentary debate is revealed in a paper trail linking Immigration Minister,...
    Frankly Speaking | 15-09
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: The OIA Gambit
    . . - Frank Macskasy & ‘Hercules’ What appears to be an orchestrated  Beehive plot to dig dirt for throwing at Labour leader, David Cunliffe, ahead of a crucial parliamentary debate is revealed in a paper trail linking Immigration Minister,...
    Frankly Speaking | 15-09
  • Letter to the Editor – Key makes up any old sh*t, again
    . . From a Fairfax story on 13 September, about visiting investigative journalist, Glenn Greenwald, .   . It was time to take Key to task on his lying BS… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com> to: Dominion Post <letters@dompost.co.nz> date:...
    Frankly Speaking | 15-09
  • Letter to the Editor – Key makes up any old sh*t, again
    . . From a Fairfax story on 13 September, about visiting investigative journalist, Glenn Greenwald, .   . It was time to take Key to task on his lying BS… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com> to: Dominion Post <letters@dompost.co.nz> date:...
    Frankly Speaking | 15-09
  • The costs and trade-offs of free public transport in Auckland
    One perennial discussion in transport circles is whether we shouldn’t just do away with public transport fares completely and make the whole network free of charge. Why not fully subsidise the network as a public service using public monies as...
    Transport Blog | 15-09
  • OnPoint: “Project SPEARGUN underway”
    Let's get this out of the way: The Warner Bros email was a complete clusterfuck. Faced with claims that the emails were fake, TeamDotcom did a TeamKey - they got Hone to send it off to the Privileges Committee then...
    Public Address | 15-09
  • Beef + Lamb NZ Outlines Priorities Ahead of Election
    Press Release – Beef And Lamb NZ Beef + Lamb New Zealand has outlined what it sees as the policy priorities for the incoming government.16 SEPTEMBER 2014 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Beef + Lamb New Zealand Outlines Priorities Ahead of General...
    Its our future | 15-09
  • Spies, education, finances, a star and a forecast
    John Key pulled the election date forward. He said it was to avoid clashes with likely global leaders’ visits after the G20 meeting in Australia in November. But clouds were looming too. One was John Banks’ conviction, widely expected. By...
    Colin James | 15-09
  • Gordon Campbell on the aftermath of the Greenwald/Snowden revelations
    The credibility issues have come down to two main ones: 1 The email. This has to do with whether Key knowingly agreed to use our immigration rules as a tool to ensnare and ultimately extradite Kim Dotcom, and do so...
    Gordon Campbell | 15-09
  • This government should (but probably won’t) be over
    The revelations last night (and leaked during the day) SHOULD end this government. In brief: 1) Even if Key is telling the truth (which is pretty far-fetched and increasingly unlikely given Snowden’s evidence), they still got a plan underway for illegal...
    Cut your hair | 15-09
  • Mass surveillance and sexual violence: Assange and Snowden
    Article – Fightback Mass surveillance and sexual violence: The difference between Snowden and Assange by Fightback Admin 16 September 2014Mass surveillance and sexual violence: The difference between Snowden and Assange by Fightback Admin 16 September 2014 Chelsea Manning and Edward...
    Its our future | 15-09
  • The Moment of Truth #2 – Humpty Dumpty words
    Words matter, never so much in New Zealand politics as they do right now. Remember Humpty Dumpty in Through the Looking Glass?'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose...
    Pundit | 15-09
  • MAORI PARTY – DON’T COMPLAIN … WALK
    “If the Maori Party are serious about stopping government spying on NZ citizens then they should tell the Prime Minister to either stop doing it or they will walk away” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira, on...
    Mana | 16-09
  • JOHN KEY SUPPORTING LABOUR
    “There is something really sick about a National Party Prime Minister coming out in support of a Labour candidate” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira, after hearing that John Key is urging voters to back Labour in...
    Mana | 16-09
  • SHUT DOWN THIS GOVT NOT KAITI WINZ – Nikora
    “I’m going to make it as hard for you to get help as I can” is Paula Bennett’s message to the people of Kaiti  said MANA candidate Te Hāmua Nikora today in response to the news that National will close...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Winegums make for better polling – Harawira
    I wanted to laugh when I saw the Native Affairs poll the other night (Hone Harawira 38%, Kelvin Davis 37%) because it was almost the same as the one they did back in 2011”, said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau...
    Mana | 16-09
  • The Leadership of MTS Lied – Harawira
    “Normally I’m happy to tell people that I was right but when I received the news about the staff cuts at Maori Television, I had nothing but sympathy for the three Maori media leaders who are going to be made...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Privileges Complaint Laid against Prime Minister – Harawira
    MANA Movement Leader and Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira has today lodged a Privileges Complaint with the Speaker regarding the Prime Ministers denials in parliament that he knew anything about Kim Dotcom before 2012. “Information made public today appears...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Sharples’ new appointments are out of order
    The new appointments to the Waitangi Tribunal announced by Dr Pita Sharples this morning are completely out of order given the election is just five days away, says Labour's State Services spokesperson, Maryan Street. “This Government continues to show disdain...
    Labour | 15-09
  • MANA Movement Housing Policy
    “When families are living in cars, garages, cockroach-infested caravans and three families to a house then we have a housing crisis”, said MANA leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira. “When you have a housing crisis for low-income...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Bigger than the Foreshore and Seabed – Sykes
    “Over the past week I have received some disturbing information that has led myself and a number of Maori lawyers to conclude that this National - Maori Party - ACT and United Future Government are going to put an end to both...
    Mana | 14-09
  • MANA wants Te Reo Māori petition fulfilled
    Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Annette Sykes, MANA candidate for Waiariki Te Hāmua Nikora, MANA candidate for Ikaroa Rāwhiti  “More than four decades have passed and the petition calling for Te Reo Māori in schools...
    Mana | 14-09
  • Primary focus on the critical issues
    A Labour Government will prioritise New Zealand’s agricultural sectors by recreating a Rural Affairs Minister and appointing a Primary Industry Council and a Chief Agricultural Adviser. Releasing Labour’s Primary Sector and Rural Affairs policies today, spokesperson Damien O’Connor says the...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Maori Television fears confirmed – Harawira
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    Mana | 12-09
  • More ghost houses from National
    The Government’s desperate pre-election announcement of more ghost houses won’t fool Aucklanders wanting action on the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “These are ghost houses, to go with National’s ghost tax cut. Families cannot live in ghost...
    Labour | 12-09
  • National bows to union pressure over travel time
    National has reluctantly bowed to pressure from unions and adopted Labour’s fair and sensible policy to pay home support workers for the time they spend traveling between clients, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “This decision is long overdue...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Predators on Poverty – Harawira
    “As poverty has ballooned out of control, the Predators on Poverty have emerged to suck the lifeblood from whole families and communities” said MANA Movement leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira. “They are deliberately targeting low-income areas, particularly those...
    Mana | 11-09
  • MANA Movement Policy Launch
    Predators on Poverty (pokie machines, alcohol outlets and loan sharks) 1pm, Thursday 11th September Corner Great South Road and Criterion Street Otahuhu Shopping Centre...
    Mana | 10-09
  • Eliminating Poverty – Sir Edmund Hillary Collegiate, Otara | Internet MAN...
    A campaign to Eliminate Poverty, Feed the Kids, build more houses, and create thousands of new jobs, was outlined by Internet MANA at a public meeting in Otara this evening. When MANA and the Internet Party first sat down to...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Housing in Waiariki – Sykes
    Fact:  Under this National-Maori Party-ACT-United Future Government 61% of Maori in Waiariki do not own their own home and nearly 70% of Maori rentals in Waiariki pay $200 or more per week. “Maori in Waiariki have low rates of home ownership...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Charter school crisis shows time to axe costly experiment
    Dysfunction from day one at a Northland charter school shows it is time to dump this costly and failed experiment by the National-ACT Government, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Te Kura Hourua ki Whangaruru received $27,000 in government funding...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Labour will crack down on loan sharks
    A Labour Government will crack down on predatory loan sharks by making it illegal both to charge exorbitant interest rates and to exploit uninformed borrowers, Labour’s Consumer Affairs Spokesperson Carol Beaumont says. Labour today released its Consumer Affairs policy which...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Let’s do the FEED before the weed
    “Last week I put out a very strongly worded email to my colleagues about an online promotion about cannabis law reform” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira “and I stand by that criticism today.” My concern was...
    Mana | 08-09
  • TE KAEA and NATIVE AFFAIRS live to fight another day
    “I understand that both the chair of the Board of Maori Television, Georgina Te Heuheu, and new CEO, Paora Maxwell, are now saying that my comments this morning about their plans to cut Te Kaea and Native Affairs, were wrong, and that...
    Mana | 08-09
  • How come the PM only pays 2.8% of his income in tax – Harawira
    “Before John Key talks about the piddling tax cuts he plans for low and middle income families today he needs to explain why he only pays 2.8% of his income on tax while a minimum wage worker pays 28% tax,”...
    Mana | 07-09
  • THE DEATH OF INDEPENDENCE FOR MAORI TV
    “If what I’m hearing is true, tomorrow Maori Television Service (MTS) will dump its news programme, Te Kaea, and staff will lose their jobs” said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira “and the Minister of Maori...
    Mana | 07-09
  • Labour recommits to Pike River families
    An incoming Labour-led government will do everything possible to recover the bodies of the Pike River Miners and return them to their families, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “This tragedy and its aftermath has left the families of the 29...
    Labour | 06-09
  • Voting has started and still no tax plan or fiscal budget for voters to see
    "Even though voting for the election has already begun, National still refuses to provide any details of its proposed tax cuts. And Bill English admitted this morning that he won’t provide any specifics until after the election", Labour’s Finance spokesperson...
    Labour | 06-09
  • National’s partners’ tax plans cost at least $42 billion
    If National forms the next government its partners’ tax plans will cost the country at least $42 billion, and maybe as much as $50 billion, wreaking havoc with the books, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National claims to be...
    Labour | 05-09
  • Labour: Providing more opportunities for young Kiwis
    A Labour Government will ensure every young Kiwi under the age of 20 is given the opportunity to be in work, education or training, and plans to develop a conservation apprenticeship scheme to help do that, Labour’s Youth Affairs spokesperson...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Candles out on teachers’ slice of birthday cake
    Today may be Novopay’s second birthday, but there’s little to celebrate, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Novopay has cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars already, and the cost is still climbing....
    Labour | 04-09
  • National’s blatant broadband pork barrelling misses the mark by a country...
    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • There’s Only One Poll That Counts
    “One of the oldest sayings in politics is that there is only one poll that counts – the one on Election Day – and that’s the one that I am focusing on” remarked the MANA Movement candidate for Waiariki, Annette...
    Mana | 02-09
  • Local communities critical to Civil Defence
    Labour will focus on empowering New Zealand communities to be resilient in Civil Defence disasters, says Labour’s Civil Defence spokesperson Clare Curran. Announcing Labour’s Civil Defence policy, she says that Labour will work with schools, voluntary agencies and community groups...
    Labour | 02-09
  • Labour looks to long-life passports, gambling harm review
    A return to 10 year passports and a review of gambling laws are highlights of Labour’s Internal Affairs policy released today. “More than 15,000 New Zealanders signed a petition calling on the Government to revert to the 10 year system...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement Leadership stands strong behind Internet MANA relationship
    “There is now, and always will be, a range of views about many issues within our movement and members are free to express them, but Georgina’s views on Kim Dotcom are not shared by the MANA Movement leadership or the vast majority...
    Mana | 01-09
  • Rebuilding the New Zealand Defence Force
    A Labour Government will make it a priority to rebuild the capacity of the Defence Force to carry out the tasks expected of it, says Labour’s Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff. Releasing Labour’s Defence Policy today he said the NZDF has...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Speech to Canterbury Chamber of Commerce
    Today I'm going to talk about our policy package to upgrade and grow our economy and how we turn that growth into a foundation for a decent and fair society. But first I want to address the issue of our...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Commission of Inquiry must have bipartisan support
    The Labour Party is drafting terms of reference for a Commission of Inquiry, Labour’s Shadow Attorney-General David Parker says. “It is abundantly clear there is a need for an independent Commission of Inquiry, chaired by a High Court Judge, into...
    Labour | 01-09
  • Rapid Transit to unclog Christchurch
    Labour will build a 21st century Rapid Transit system for Christchurch, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “The long delayed recovery of Christchurch hinges on a modern commuter system for the city. “We will invest $100 million in a modern rail plan...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s commitment to public broadcasting
    A Labour Government will set up a working group to re-establish a public service television station as part of our commitment to ensuring New Zealand has high quality free-to-air local content. “We will set up a working group to report...
    Labour | 31-08
  • A new deal for the conservation estate
    The health of our economy depends on New Zealand preserving and restoring our land, air, water and indigenous wildlife, says Labour’s Conservation spokesperson Ruth Dyson. Announcing Labours Conservation policy, she said that there will be a comprehensive plan to restore...
    Labour | 31-08
  • Labour’s plan to end homelessness
    Labour has a comprehensive approach to end homelessness starting with the provision of emergency housing for 1000 people each year and putting an end to slum conditions in boarding houses, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes that homelessness is not...
    Labour | 30-08
  • Labour: A smarter approach to justice
    A Labour Government will improve the justice system to ensure it achieves real public safety, provides equal access to justice and protects human rights, Labour’s Justice spokesperson Andrew Little says. “Our approach is about tackling the root causes of crime, recognising...
    Labour | 29-08
  • A brief word on why Wendyl Nissen is a hero
    Wendyl Nissen is a hero. The sleazy black ops attack on her by Slater and Odgers on behalf of Grocery Council chief executive Katherine Rich is sick. All Nissen is doing in her column is point out the filth and...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Eminem sues National Party for unlawful use of ‘Lose yourself’ bhahahah...
    …ahahahahahahahaha. Oh Christ this is hilarious… National Party sued over Eminem copyright infringment US rapper Eminem is suing the National Party for allegedly breaching copyright by using his song Lose Yourself in its campaign advertisements. The Detroit-based publishers of Eminem’s...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • Are the Greens about to be snookered by a Labour-NZ First Government?
    I wrote last week that it was smart politics that the Greens pointed out they could work with National, the soft blue vote that’s looking for a home in the wake of Dirty Politics isn’t going to Labour, so the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • BLOGWATCH: Fonterra join 2Degrees and boycott Whaleoil
    In the wake of Dirty Politics, advertisers are pulling their advertising out of Whaleoil. PaknSave, Evo Cycles Pukekohe, Localist, 2 Degrees, Fertility Associates, iSentia, NZ Breast Cancer Foundation, Maori TV, Bookme.co.nz, Dobetter.co.nz and the Sound are now joined by Fonterra...
    The Daily Blog | 16-09
  • PM Key accused of allowing secret ‘spook’ cable sensors to spy on citiz...
    Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Glenn Greenwald (left) and Kim Dotcom at the “moment of truth” political surveillance meeting in Auckland last night. Image: PMW By ANNA MAJAVU of Pacific Media Watch NEW ZEALAND Prime Minister John Key has been accused of...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Fiji pre-election ‘politics’ blackout stirs media protests, frustration
    BLACKOUT DAY – Monday, day one of the “silence window” in Fiji leading up to the close of polling in the general election at 6pm on Wednesday. And this is under the draconian threat of a $10,000 fine or five...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • “Now the work of movements begins”: government corruption, media bias, ...
    I am so tired of the dirty politics of the National government, aren’t you? I am tired of John Key and his pathetic attacks on award-winning journalists who have spent their careers fighting and digging for truth and good. The...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Moment of Truth review, smoking guns and the awful coverage by the NZ msm
      There were queues unlike any the Town Hall has seen, 1000 were turned away once it became full…     …full to the rafters. The energy and atmosphere within the room was extraordinary, and it begun…   …Glenn Greenwald...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Why Maori TV’s Te Tai Tokeraou Poll will be proved wrong
    If Hone Harawira had a dollar every time the media wrote off his chance of winning Te Tai Tokeraou, he would have more money than Kim Dotcom. Remember the by-election? Hone was 1 point ahead of Kelvin in an exact...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • September 15 RNZ interviews – and then the Moment of Truth
    . Acknowledgement: Emmerson . 15 September – Leading up to the Moment of Truth public meeting this evening, these Radio NZ interviews are worth listening to; . Alt link . Alt link . Alt link . Alt link . Alt...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Live Stream: Moment of Truth Tonight 7pm
    Live Video Stream by eCast: The Daily Blog will Live Stream the Moment of Trust public meeting from 7pm. The meeting will feature Glenn Greenwald, Kim Dotcom, Robert Amsterdam, and a very special guest…...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • The proof Key lied about GCSB mass surveillance
    And we start getting to the evidence that proves Key has lied about mass surveillance. The article by Glenn Greenwald is out and it is beyond damning… Documents provided by NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden show that the government worked in...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • A brief word on the Ede-Slater emails
    Every day I have rushed to read the paper to see if a breaking story on the Ede-Slater emails had broken yet. They haven’t. Day after day, where are these emails? We know Rawshark sent the emails to David Fisher...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • The email that proves Key is a liar
    This is the Email proving Key knew about Kim Dotcom before he claims he did… “We had a really good meeting with the Prime Minister. He’s a fan and we’re getting what we came for. Your groundwork in New Zealand...
    The Daily Blog | 15-09
  • Henchmen
    Henchmen...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Why it simply isn’t credible that Key stepped in and shut down the mass s...
    Key’s staggering admission that yes there was a year long business model by the GCSB to mass spy on all of NZ but  that he stepped in and shut it down after Cabinet had signed it off just sounds like make...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • John Key’s love affair with a straw man
    Politicians like putting up straw men for the purpose of self-righteously knocking them over. Prime Minister John Key has a particular straw man he loves to punch over. He raises it whenever he’s asked about mass surveillance of New Zealanders...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • John Armstrong turns on Glenn Greenwald
    Where does a mediocre journalist like John Armstrong get off attacking a journalist with the credibility of Glenn Greenwald as he has in his ridiculous column today? Armstrong has the audacity to try and play the terrorism card to justify why...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Denis Tegg – Which of John Key’s many statements on the GC...
    We already have Glenn Greenwald’s assertion on The Nation that John Key has misled New Zealanders as to whether the GCSB has engaged in mass surveillance of Kiwis. But Key has made many other statements about the GCSB’s powers and...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Election 2014: Numbers and Faces
    Democratic politics is a game of numbers and faces. How can we translate the numbers into the 120 or more faces that will be in the next Parliament? Below is my prediction of a likely result: 120 people, divided by...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Scotland the brave
    The possibility that Scotland will vote for independence this Thursday has panicked the British establishment. An unholy alliance of Tory, Labour, Liberal and corporate leaders has resorted to fear-mongering and bullying on grand scale in a last ditch effort to...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Why Key’s denials sound so off and why Dotcom’s fight is all our fight
    The shrillness of Key is the issue. His denials just too forced and rehearsed. Key has gone from Hollow Man to Shallow Man with his lashing out at Pulitzer Price winning Journalist Glenn Greenwald by calling him a ‘henchman’. This...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Letters to the Editor – Spies, Lies, Five Eyes, and other matters on a S...
    . . Sharing a few thoughts and observations with newspaper editors around the country… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com>to: Sunday Star Times <letters@star-times.co.nz>date: Sun, Sep 14, 2014 subject: Letter to the Editor . The Editor Sunday Star Times . Our...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • Letters to the Editor – Spies, Lies, Five Eyes, and other matters on a Su...
    . . Sharing a few thoughts and observations with newspaper editors around the country… . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com>to: Sunday Star Times <letters@star-times.co.nz>date: Sun, Sep 14, 2014 subject: Letter to the Editor . The Editor Sunday Star Times . Our...
    The Daily Blog | 14-09
  • As TDB predicted, Labour to use universal super fund to buy back assets and...
    Greens about to be snookered again?   As The Daily Blog has pointed out several times now, Labour will use a universal super fund to buy back NZs assets in a bid to offer Winston a legacy project… Labour plans...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • A lesson in caring for our most vulnerable
    Some of the comments on this article make me sick. Because I am so very much over people who think they are better than others because things have gone their way in life and think those who aren’t as functional...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Please vote positive
    One of the features of campaigning is the meet-the-candidates event.  As an opportunity to present policies to the voter, they aren’t the best vehicle but still serve a useful purpose.  The problem is that there are too many candidates and...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • For this who don’t vote this election
    For this who don’t vote this election...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Where does Key get off abusing a Pulitzer prize winning Journalist like Gle...
    We are seeing the Dirty Politics PM today when Key decided the best way to counter the Glenn Greenwald claims of GCSB mass surveillance was to denigrate Greenwald… Prime Minister John Key says he will prove Glenn Greenwald’s claims by the...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Teflon Man No More
    . .   On 26 August, as Nicky Hager’s expose on New Zealand’s right wing politics hit public consciousness and confirmed our worst fears, I wrote, “Dirty Politics” has achieved more than simply revealing  unwholesome machinations between National party apparatchiks,...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • Dear mainstream media – regarding Key’s promise to resign if GCSB expos...
    Dear Mainstream media. How’s it all going? I would like to acknowledge the deep depression many members of the Press Gallery are going through as their boy Key looks less and less likely to win. I appreciate how a loss...
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • It’s official: ACT’s Jamie Whyte is several-sandwiches-and-a-salad sho...
    .   . There aren’t very many times I agree wholeheartedly with our Dear Leader – but on this occassion I believe he spoke for those 99% of New Zealanders for whom common sense is as natural as breathing air....
    The Daily Blog | 13-09
  • ‘I’ll not be intimidated … by cowards’, says Fiji death threat jour...
    Fiji Sun’s Jyoti Pratibha … death threats via fake Facebook profiles. Image: Pacific Scoop THE PARIS-based media freedom advocacy organisation Reporters Sans Frontières and the Pacific Media Centre have condemned threats and intimidation against political reporters this week covering Fiji’s...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Glenn Greenwald on TV3s ‘The Nation’ – Everyone remember when Key pro...
    Glenn Greenwald has just given his first NZ interview on TV3s ‘The Nation’ and what he had to say was incredibly damaging. Glenn is here for Kim Dotcom’s Moment of Truth on Monday and what he has just had to...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • What will soft National vote do, why Colin Craig will be a focus in final w...
    In what has been the most unpredictable elections of our time, the final week promises more shocks and bombshells than World War One trench warfare. We have the media who still have the Rawshark emails that detail the Ede-Slater exchanges....
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Would a National-Conservative Party reduce rights to an abortion? Legalise ...
    With the possibility of a Conservative-National Party coalition looming, let’s consider the impact of this new hard right religious Government on social policy. We know Conservative Party candidate Edward Saafi, believes the inability to legally bash your kids is responsible for teenage prostitution, teenage pregnancy and...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • ACTs solution to crime – more guns?
    How insane are the ACT Party? Honestly? Their solution to crime is to arm every shop keeper with a sawn off shotgun??? “Criminals are well aware that shopkeepers are defenceless and are taking advantage of this in brutal robberies. What...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • John Key’s gift to teenage girls…
    Yesterday I was at the MANA Movement policy release on “Predators on Poverty” in the Otahuhu Shopping Centre. Successive Labour and National governments have left vulnerable communities on their own to face these merciless thieves who prey on the poor...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Poverty denial – Where does National get its advice from?
    National is displaying a quite inadequate understanding of their own policies and worrying inability to respond to criticism. When John Key trots out his old, tired example of how ‘work pays’ on Morning Report this week to justify leaving 260,000...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Education reformers mean well, so what’s the problem?
    The thing about education reformers is that, mostly, they mean well. Whether it’s charter schools, National Standards, Teach First, or another reform, many people involved have good intentions.  They want to improve things, try something new and innovate, they say. The thing...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • My brain hurts
    My brain hurts.  This election year has been a really long nine months.  The lies, the headlines, the spin, the policy, the chat, I am literally overloaded with information.  At times it’s been exhausting trying to keep up.  However I...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Slater loses Blomfield defamation case – has to pays costs & must dis...
    Great victory for Journalism today. The Defamation case Matt Blomfield took against Slater has jumped its first hurdle, Slater has been told he might be a ‘Journalist’, but he has no right to journalistic protection of his sources because there was no...
    The Daily Blog | 12-09
  • Seeing an Economic Vision
    It has been some time since my last post to TDB. I was fortunate to recently come back to NZ briefly for a bit of a break from my work in Pakistan. While my visit was super short, I took...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • 5 reasons why anyone identifying as Left with a capital L should party vote...
    There are 5 reasons why anyone identifying as Left with a capital L should consider casting their party vote for Internet MANA this election. 1 – Feed the Kids: There is no excuses now that National have flirted with the idea...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • What I want from a change of government
    The prospects for a change of government look a little brighter so I though I’d look at what we can expect. The only option being provided by Labour, the main opposition party, is for a Labour, Green, NZ First coalition....
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • Why is the “Progressive” Coalition so Regressive?
    Have you ever, when parallel parking, got yourself wedged into the curb? The car in front is centimetres away and your rear wheel is touching the curb at an angle. This is a metaphor for the state of economic policy-making...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • Of course the Greens could work with National
    A warm soy latte with John Key?   Sharp in take of breath moment as TVNZ last night reported Greens could work with National post the election if National win. It’s a smart move. The Greens are so viciously anti-tribal...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Quality of Journalism
    “Skilled journos getting unwarranted shit from hack bloggers & online warriors could earn big $ in PR/marketing, so thank you for what you do”. As this tweet rolled across my screen this morning the irony had me rolling my eyes. Why on...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – #BlueGreen2014 – Or: The Media Jetskiis O...
    During Thursday’s iteration of One News, I was virtually shocked off my seat to hear a reasonably well-known political pundit slash nominal “journalist” prognosticating about the likelihood of the Green Party “switching gear” on its electoral strategy … and deciding...
    The Daily Blog | 11-09
  • Conservatives Break through 5% Threshold
    Reports in today’s Dominion Post that the Conservative Party is polling at 6% in Nationals internal polling are not surprising says the Conservative Napier candidate Garth McVicar....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Hundreds of Students Turn Out for Political Debate
    With only a few days left before the general election, over 500 Victoria students packed the central Hub space on campus today to listen to a political debate on student issues organised by the Students’ Association. Victoria University of Wellington...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Ex-prisoners make most of mentoring to make most of life
    It’s not every day that an organisation triples a programme in size, but PARS Inc (formerly known as the Prisoners’ Aid and Rehabilitation Society of the Auckland District Inc) has managed to do just that with their Community Mentoring Scheme,...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Unscrupulous worker highlights why 90-days works
    Federated Farmers believes the experience of a husband and wife farming team in Taranaki underscores why the 90-days provision is so important to small businesses. “Yesterday a member called 0800 FARMING to alert us to a guy doing the rounds...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Eye to Eye Uploaded
    Leading Maori broadcaster and political commentator Willie Jackson previews Eye to Eye Uploaded, a multi-platform series of interviews that he’s aiming to put in front of media radars next year....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Party Rankings against Inequality
    Revealed: which party will do the most to reduce New Zealand’s growing inequality crisis...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Maritime Union backs change of Government
    The Maritime Union says a change of Government is required to deliver secure jobs and decent wages for New Zealand workers....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Green Party package for newborns welcomed
    16 September 2014 Media Release The New Zealand College of Midwives has welcomed a policy announced today by the Green Party which would provide a package of essential items for every newborn baby. The College is a non partisan organisation...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • ALCP Release Election Manifesto
    The Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party has released its manifesto in the lead up to the election on Saturday....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Election Daily Update #9
    John Key’s National Party appears to have received a major boost from last night’s “Moment of Truth” event, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Despite no major changes...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Eminem Publishers Sue New Zealand National Party
    Detroit-based music publishing companies sue National Party for damages for unauthorised use of song in election campaign advertising...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parties Back Rethink of WINZ Shared Care Parenting Laws
    Overwhelming Majority of Parties Back Rethink of WINZ Shared Care Parenting Laws. Press release- Fifty Fifty Campaign, 16 September 2014 National is the only political party willing to defend the way WINZ treats separated parents who share their kids...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Parents Smacking Down Prime Minister
    "John Keys failure to deliver on his promise to change the anti-smacking law is costing National votes, and helping the Conservative Party," says Colin Craig....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Political Debate on Family Violence – Video & Audio
    The Dunedin Collaboration Against Family Violence was happy to host a political debate on Family Violence chaired by Professor Nicola Atwool of the University of Otago. Family Violence is a huge problem in our community and we invited representatives...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Greens Take Nanny State To A New Level
    Family First NZ is labelling the Green’s ‘welcome package’ for newborns policy as wasteful and misdirected. “This policy is taking ‘nanny state’ to a new level but indicates just how much the Greens want to intervene in family life,”...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • 2,100 people send message about dirty politics
    2,100 people have signed their name to a full-page open letter featuring in the New Zealand Herald this Wednesday. The letter is designed to send a message to politicians that dirty politics is an important election issue....
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Are DoC manipulating Rat Numbers?
    Ban 1080 Political Party co-leader Bill Wallace says there are serious rumours DoC has changed their rat counting technique to cover up the lack of the mythical “Rat Plague” claimed by the Department in Kahurangi National Park, and also that...
    Scoop politics | 16-09
  • Average Full time Student Is in Financial Distress
    A new survey has found that nearly half of all full time students are in significant financial distress....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Key and Cunliffe, research revealed by Ancestry.com.au
    Contrasting family histories of John Key and David Cunliffe, revealed by research from Ancestry.com.au....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Revelations a Damning Indictment of Key’s Honesty
    The Prime Minister’s honesty is now central to the election, says Internet Party Leader Laila Harré, following the revelations of whistleblower Edward Snowden that there is mass surveillance of New Zealand citizens by the GCSB....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Organisations Have ‘Duty of Care’ for Players says Law Firm
    Concussion injuries in amateur and professional sporting arenas are currently highly topical. Concussion potentially appears to have been implicit in the recent death of a young player in Northland....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Media Release from Closing the Gap on Health and Housing
    “Inequality is the biggest problem facing New Zealand at the present time” says Peter Malcolm National Secretary of Closing the Gap. It underlies many of our social ills, poverty, lack of trust, an economy that could do much better, and...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Expanding Whānau Ora – a bottom line for Māori Party
    Leaving the best to last, the Māori Party has launched its Whānau Ora policy today following a fun family event at Te Ore Ore Marae in Masterton last night. “When we change what happens in our homes, we change what...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Colin Craig’s Incredible Claims Continue
    Hot on the heels of a Conservative Party candidate proposing to double the price of a bottle of wine, Colin Craig has come up with an even more fantastic idea to buttress his uncosted tax policy....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • The Letter: Jamie Whyte is going to Parliament
    Friday night’s TVNZ Colmar Brunton poll puts Jamie Whyte in Parliament. TVNZ rounded down the poll result (ACT was on 1.2%). With the high wasted Conservative vote, just 1.2% makes Jamie an MP. It is ACT, not NZ First that...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Why are we letting Dotcom steal our election?
    Why are we letting a convicted German fraudster and his American polemicists steal our election?...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ACT’s five point plan
    ACT has a five point plan to grow the economy by a third. To lift economic growth from the Treasury's long term forecast of just two percent to three....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Christchurch rebuild cost sharing plan must be improved
    “The agreement between the government and the Christchurch City Council about sharing costs of the rebuild is due to be revised in December, as some costs are more accurately known now than they were originally,“ says Warren Voight, Local...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ‘Key vs. Cunliffe’ Final Live NZ Election Reactor
    ohn Key and David Cunliffe go head to head for the final time on TV One on Wednesday as Election Day looms. Roy Morgan wants to know what you think about their performance as the leaders try one last time...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Chamber welcomes Business Growth Agenda priorities
    Wellington Employers’ Chamber of Commerce welcomes the National Government’s 10 highest priorities for its Business Growth Agenda as essential to continuing strong business performance and economic growth....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • #SafeSource NZ – A secure way to share the truth
    Dirty politics and a dirty environment go hand in hand. Our country’s future as a fairer, cleaner, more prosperous place is being threatened by backroom deals, corporate cronyism and a lack of transparency....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Last vid to encourage youth vote
    Here's the third and final in our series to boost the youth vote. It's called CINDER and it's a play on the popular dating app....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Fee hikes restrict student choices
    A survey of 5000 students from across the tertiary sector shows that tuition fees have increased at the maximum level permitted. Fees are constraining students’ choices more than ever before. Although tuition fees are only permitted to increase...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • ACT’s five point plan to grow the economy
    ACT has a five point plan to double the rate of economic growth. The Treasury long term forecast for growth is 2% a year. We can lift it to 4%....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • iPredict Daily Election Update
    National’s forecast party vote has risen to 45.3% over the last day, at the expense of Labour and the Greens, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. A National/Act/UnitedFuture/Maori...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • National’s economic strategy attack workers’ rights
    The National Party’s ‘Workplaces’ policy confirms that their economic growth strategy relies on attacks on workers rights, according to FIRST Union....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Questions Raised Over Cow Deaths
    The death of 200 cows after eating a new variety of PGG Wrightsons HT swedes [1] is a disaster for New Zealand farmers....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Final decision on Ruakura Development Plan Change
    The independent Board of Inquiry considering the Ruakura Development Plan Change has released its final report and decision. The Board has approved the plan change request but with amendments....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Confirmed – Smacking Law Needs Correction
    Family First NZ says that the ONE News Vote Compass survey showing only 23% support the anti-smacking law is no surprise, and confirms that it’s time the politicians listened to New Zealand families....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Kiwi voters urged to heed warnings
    Kiwi voters would do well to note the advice given this week to Queensland people by retired judge and renowned corruption fighter Tony Fitzgerald, according to Democrats for Social Credit health spokesman David Tranter....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Fisheries policy analysis produces surprising results
    Nine political party policies were analysed to determine which party had the most public friendly fisheries policy and the results surprised LegaSea, an apolitical fisheries lobby group. “For the first time, recreational fishers have been offered...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • $3m to help keep Hutt families healthy
    National Party candidate for Hutt South, Chris Bishop, welcomes news Hutt City Council has been selected to lead a $3 million anti-obesity initiative in Lower Hutt which will help families improve their health. “Healthy Families NZ is National’s new...
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • Community organisations struggling
    The survey, conducted by community sector network ComVoices, highlights the high level of frustration and urgency being felt by those who deliver services, says group Chairperson, Peter Glensor. 311 organisations completed the survey....
    Scoop politics | 15-09
  • NZ 2014 Election Index – 6-11 September
    Below is iSentia’s weekly Election Index for the period 6 to 11 September, showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. We will publish...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • Workers despair at Nationals lack of fairness
    “Nationals Workplaces policy, released today, fails to articulate any vison about how life for working New Zealanders can be improved.” CTU President Helen Kelly said. “Again if this policy focusses on removing work rights, its own documents...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • National tries to dodge the discussion on workers’ rights
    New Zealanders deserve a proper conversation about National’s plans to keep undermining the real value of their wages and conditions at work. “Today National has released a ‘workplace policy’ which will further widen the imbalance of power between...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • Didn’t Get Your Easyvote Pack? You Need to Enrol Now.
    If you didn’t get an EasyVote pack in the mail last week, you need to check your enrolment now as you may not be enrolled....
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • Survey shows television without adverts could be vote winner
    Survey shows television without adverts could be a vote winner Television news focuses too much on politicians' personalities and not enough on the real issues, according to a UMR survey commissioned by the Coalition for Better Broadcasting....
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • Which of Key’s many statements will Greenwald challenge?
    John Key's credibility and honesty will be tested on many more GCSB issues than whether there was / is mass surveillance of New Zealanders by the GCSB. I have put together this by no means comprehensive list of Key's statements...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
  • 4th tranche of Auckland Housing Accord licenses sprawl
    Youth organisation, Generation Zero, is appalled at the next stage of the Auckland Housing Accord, released today, as it is once again focussed on urban sprawl. The fourth tranche of 41 Special Housing Areas (SHAs), allows for 8000 dwellings, nearly...
    Scoop politics | 14-09
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