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Open mike 29/04/2014

Written By: - Date published: 6:45 am, April 29th, 2014 - 175 comments
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openmike Open mike is your post.

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175 comments on “Open mike 29/04/2014”

  1. felix 1

    Pete laid down the law last night.

    Authors take note, you don’t get to tell him what he can or can’t do here. He makes the rules for the site now.

    http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-28042014/#comment-805885

    • vto 1.1

      I think the problem with PG Tips is that everything is so bloody wishy-washy and qualified that tedium rises instantly to the surface leading to complete and utter frustration. It is like the ultimate fence-sitting, discussing discussions, and never actually achieving anything. Or even ffs, never actually saying anything. Nothing is ever said methinks.

      There would seem to be no solution for these types, other than to banish them to local council ward board committee meetings about whether pansies or petunias should be planted in the roundabout.

    • mickysavage 1.2

      Yep. He seems to be on a one man crusade to wreck the left’s chances in the next election. His behaviour improved for a while but I agree that he is back to his disruptive worst.

      The problem is his control of the politicheck website. He has come out with a doozie this morning claiming that all land speculators do pay capital gains tax. The amount paid is exceedingly small and the number of transactions caught is also very small. But by applying a rather extreme interpretation and taking a few very short comments out of context he claims that Labour is not telling the truth.

      This site works best when there is an unfettered sometimes robust exchange of ideas. But I have seen a number of discussion streams get wrecked.

      The politicheck reference is at http://www.politicheck.org.nz/factchecks/2014/4/29/property-speculators-are-taxed

      It may be time to factcheck the politicheck website.

      • Pete George 1.2.1

        “claiming that all land speculators do pay capital gains tax”

        I didn’t claim that.

        “The amount paid is exceedingly small and the number of transactions caught is also very small.”

        Facts would help your case.

        • mickysavage 1.2.1.1

          I thought you were the fact checker Pete. Or do you ignore the facts that do not support your world view?

          • Pete George 1.2.1.1.1

            You made the claims. You should back them up.

            Tax raised from Property Speculation and volume of cases nationally by tax year:

            Year Ending 30 June 2011 386 Cases and $33,817,271
            Year Ending 30 June 2012 232 Cases and $23,069,492
            Year Ending 30 June 2013 (to 31 December 2012) 115 cases and $12,025,889
            Cases closed at 30 June 2013 – 450 cases

            http://tvnz.co.nz/business-news/property-speculators-targeted-ird-5550971

            If a 15% capital gains tax was applied instead those amounts would approximately halve.

            Also from that article:

            Property speculators targeted by IRD

            Inland Revenue is cracking down on people who do not declare tax on properties they have made a profit on.

            Under New Zealand Income Tax law, if you intend to make a profit on a property transaction, you are required to pay income tax.

            “The urban myths that abound, if you own a property for six months, or 18 months or two years and you live in it as a family, then you are outside the net. Those are not true,” Tony Wilkinson, Buddle Findlay Tax Partner told ONE News.

            Inland Revenue is drawing a hard line on property speculators, receiving a $6 million annual funding boost to audit property transactions.

            IRD is doing something, and National appear to be boosting what they do.

            • Paul 1.2.1.1.1.1

              What % of your fact checks are made of National Party claims?

            • mickysavage 1.2.1.1.1.2

              Pete you should have done the research before making your claim doncha think? So a couple of hundred cases a year. And the figures are small when you compare them to the total tax take. Thanks for confirming my previous statement.

              The CGT will apply across the board apart from the family home. Over time it will raise significant amounts of money.

              And did you see how the number of cases is decreasing each year, interestingly at the same time that there have been cuts to IRD’s staff. National do not appear to be boosting what they do. It has put the process into reverse.

              • “National do not appear to be boosting what they do. It has put the process into reverse.”

                In the link just above that you have just replied to:

                Inland Revenue is drawing a hard line on property speculators, receiving a $6 million annual funding boost to audit property transactions.

                The expectation is that this will recover about $45m.

                It’s impossible to know how much potential tax revenue is going into a black hole, but it is certainly substantial. A clue can be found in this year’s budget, which provided an extra $6.65m to chase property investment tax compliance. The expectation is it will return about $45m a year.

                Inland Revenue’s general reckoning is that the department will return in revenue five times the extra amount invested to investigate big-ticket areas such as property, the hidden economy and claimed losses.

                http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11118263

                That’s doing something, a boost. Not nothing, not “into reverse”.

      • vto 1.2.2

        the problem with property speculators and paying income tax in our country is that the vast bulk of rental property owners are simply dishonest lying bastards and bastardettes. They nearly all buy with a view to banking the gain in value and have little concern in the rent.

        Most NZ property investors simply lie about their intent when purchasing property. Liars.

        It is the single biggest rort in NZ and I think we need to introduce drug-testing on property owners and stop them from going to Australia, such is the cost to the taxpayer.

        • just saying 1.2.2.1

          I think we need to introduce drug-testing on property owners and stop them from going to Australia, such is the cost to the taxpayer.

          Lol.
          Ta.

        • Pete George 1.2.2.2

          Avoidance or evasion on property transactions has been a problem for yonks, and there’s a big grey area on ‘intent’ but governments have gradually been addressing it.

          Because proof of intent at the time of buying a property is central to whether tax should be paid, liability is not clear without some investigation and resources are always best directed to areas where the potential return is greatest.

          Investigators are more likely to be on the trail of dealers or speculators turning over several properties a year than the little guy who, over a lifetime, buys a couple of do-ups on rising markets and makes a nice little tax-free earner.

          However, don’t count on that so much in the future.

          The department receives data on every property transaction in New Zealand and says that after a few years focusing on education and awareness, it is moving to “a targeted audit response” with “increased risk assessment and profiling of cases along with developing a range of tools including complex data-matching, analysis, research and evaluation”.

          And it adds: “By improving our approach and techniques regarding compliance, we are able to better identify those who may be deliberately breaking the rules.”

          http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11118263

          • vto 1.2.2.2.1

            Pete, it is only a problem of enforcement, not a problem of existence, as your quote indicates. My point stands.

            Bottom line though – government raises revenue by taxing people who make money. Problem is that they only tax some of the money-making, i.e. wage and salary and income earners. There are several other ways of making money which are not taxed, such as making money by capital. Example: Some make money by pouring all their income into the capital value of their farm and minimise their income. Why should they be exempt and bludge off the wage and salary earner? Another rort.

            If the government is to raise revenue by taxing money-making then all forms of money-making should be taxed. For consistency and credibility purposes ….

      • felix 1.2.3

        I don’t think anyone is ever going to read ScrittiPolitti.

        But yep, Pete is on a mission to make this site unreadable. I have no idea why he is tolerated. He has no interest in or sympathy for the labour movement whatsoever.

        When did thestandard become a free-for-all for right-wingers?

        • Rosie 1.2.3.1

          I like the Scritti Politti reference Felix.

          As for PG (Personal Grievance). I’ve been coming here on and off for two and half years and particularly enjoyed the time when PG was “on leave”. There was a time leading up to that “leave” where there was a loose consensus among commenters to simply adopt the :roll: as a response to anything he said. Not only was it entertaining and humourous to see a huge line of :roll: all down the page it also took all the power away from him and minimised the disruption.

          I humbly would make the suggestion that the :roll: exercise is revived.

          Whaddya’s reckon?

      • karol 1.2.4

        Yep. As far as I can see, PG’s problem is a tendency to use slippery logic and very shallow analysis. It is why I rarely read or comment on his comments these days – waste of my time. More important things to focus on.

    • Ironic felix. You’re not trying to tell authors or moderators what to do are you? Sounds a bit like it. Contributing something positive is less stressful.

      • felix 1.3.1

        Where did I do that, Pete? Link or apology please.

      • mickysavage 1.3.2

        So Pete while you are here your latest politicheck post (http://www.politicheck.org.nz/factchecks/2014/4/29/property-speculators-are-taxed) is full of bunkum. Basically you are saying that because there is an obligation for speculators to pay capital gains tax they all pay capital gains tax. But if you had checked you would see that the number of transactions caught are exceedingly small and if someone buys a house to rent rather than immediately sell on then it is not payable.

        So you have twisted the words out of shape and then come out with an adverse conclusion.

        And looking at the site you are wrecking it. There is so much that could be analysed but you are mostly siding with the Government and bashing the opposition parties.

        Go on. Concisely justify your latest claim. Use figures and stuff. Then compare this with Labour’s draft figures from last time.

        • BM 1.3.2.1

          It’s true if you’re a legitimate property developer, spec builder etc you pay tax on any profit made.

          How else do you claim your building expenses, if you’re not legit.?

        • Pete George 1.3.2.2

          ” if someone buys a house to rent rather than immediately sell on then it is not payable.”

          That’s not correct.

          If you buy a property intending to:

          – resell it, or
          – you intend to sell it after making improvements to it
          you’re likely to be a speculator or a dealer. Renting your property temporarily doesn’t change your tax treatment either – you’re still a speculator or a dealer.

          How long do I need to hold the property to make it a capital gain?

          There is no time limit. If you buy a property with the firm intention of resale, it doesn’t matter how long you hold it – the gain on resale will be taxable (and any loss may be tax-deductible).

          Example
          You buy a property with a firm plan to resell it for a profit. The property market falls and you decide to hold onto it instead. You rent it out for 15 years and then sell it when the prices are again rising rapidly. Any gain on that sale 15 years later is likely to be taxable.

          http://www.ird.govt.nz/property/property-common-mistakes/mistake-dealing-with-investment/

          • mickysavage 1.3.2.2.1

            Um it is correct. If you buy the house intending to rent it then by definition you are not intending to resell it.

            • Pete George 1.3.2.2.1.1

              Um, you can buy a house intending to rent it and intending to sell it for a capital gain. Read the IRD link.

              Do you think speculators wouldn’t rent out a house if they intend to sell it? Unless it was a very quick flick that doesn’t make business sense much if not all what you gain in capital you would lose in cost of capital and non-earnings.

              • captain hook

                what the fuck does that mean.
                you are just spouting nonsense.
                why dont you fuck off.

                • weka

                  Lol @ hook. I reckon we should use that for Rosie’s suggestion rather than :roll:

                  Everytime PG says something, anything, respond with

                  what the fuck does that mean.
                  you are just spouting nonsense.
                  why dont you fuck off

                  Because it’s an appropriate response to pretty much everything he says.

                  • risildowgtn

                    +1
                    I may not have been here long but I agree.
                    PG talks absolute crap

                    Dont feed it . it might go back under its rock

                  • Rosie

                    Lol. By all means adopt that statement weka. My hazy memory tells me that the :roll: was previously adopted because it was non verbal and non aggressive. Also, very it’s funny, a massive army of :roll: marching on for miles down the page. It says so much.

          • lurgee 1.3.2.2.2

            From your own link, pete:

            If you’re an investor you buy a property to use it to generate ongoing rental income and not with any firm intent of resale. The property is a capital asset and any later profit or loss from selling the property is capital and isn’t taxable (apart from clawing back any depreciation, which is now recoverable).

            • Pete George 1.3.2.2.2.1

              Yes, that refers to an investor, which IRD clearly differentiates from speculators and dealers.

              • mickysavage

                Pete have you actually read what you are typing? It makes no sense. My head hurts …

                I am sorry everyone I have sparked this totally unproductive complete waste of time debate. It is as if the protagonists are arguing in different languages …

                I am going back to performing paid work …

              • lurgee

                Yes, that refers to an investor, which IRD clearly differentiates from speculators and dealers.

                A few posts up thread, MS posted, “if someone buys a house to rent rather than immediately sell on then it is not payable.”

                You replied to that post, quoting those very words, stating, “That’s not correct.”

                With me so far?

                I quoted an extract from the IRD guidelines you quoted, showing that MS was correct and you were wrong – if someone buy a property to use it to generate ongoing rental income and not with any firm intent of resale the property is a capital asset and any later profit or loss from selling the property is capital and isn’t taxable.

                You comprehend that the words I have marked in bold (which are taken near verbatim from the extract I quoted) confirm that if someone buys a house to rent rather than immediately sell on then capial gains taxis not payable?

                Virtually the same words that MS used, and which you said were wrong and which you now say are right, but only for investors, even though that is clearly what MS means because what on Earth do you think “buys a house to rent rather than immediately sell on” means?

                • But “if someone buys a house to rent rather than immediately sell on then it is not payable” is not correct.

                  If someone buys a house to rent rather than immediately sell on then tax on capital gain may not be payable, or it may be payable, depending on other circumstances and intent.

                  As I showed, immediacy doesn’t matter, nor does an intent to rent.

                  • lurgee

                    You understand what “if someone buys a house to rent” means, yeah?

                    It means the reason for buying the house was to rent it out. So “the property is a capital asset and any later profit or loss from selling the property is capital and isn’t taxable.”

                    Where as a speculator buys with the intention to sell it. that’s their purpose in buying the house, and their anticipated source of profit. Even if they don’t immediately realise that intention, due to the market collapsing or what have you it is still treated differently for tax purposes: “If you buy a property with the firm intention of resale, it doesn’t matter how long you hold it – the gain on resale will be taxable”

        • freedom 1.3.2.3

          ” There is so much that could be analysed but you are mostly siding with the Government and bashing the opposition parties.”

          To see the truth in that statement, scroll through the posts and look at the ratio of Politicheck articles that focus on the opposition parties and not the Government.

          OppositionCheck would be a more accurate title.

          But he is what he is and now, like many wiser heads, I will be doing my damnedest to step over every syllable he soils the site with. He has had so many chances to join in and help build the dialogue but he is a wrecker, and only wants to be the loudest voice at the table.

          Still wonder how his Budget for Poor People was shaping up though.

          bye bye Pete

        • lurgee 1.3.2.4

          But if you had checked you would see that the number of transactions caught are exceedingly small

          You appear to be talking about tax avoidance and evasion, i.e. lack of tax income, rather than a lack of tax code. That’s a different issue altogether.

          You can’t avoid non-existent taxes, after all.

  2. Ad 2

    Good stuff from Labour on the exchange rate. Plenty of commentators saying it’s not a populist issue. Clearly they don’t get the knowledge all our commodity producers (esp farmers) have of exchange rates and their personal financial interests.

    Looks like a great week for Labour, with a series of announcements and media hits.

    • karol 2.1

      As far as I can see the policy benefits the middle class property buyers/owners and export businesses. What’s in it for those on low incomes?

      • tinfoilhat 2.1.1

        “What’s in it for those on low incomes?

        More expensive everything.

      • bad12 2.1.2

        Lets see, for those on low incomes Labour is proposing a rise in the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour, yay hurrah, but wait, there is more,

        Labour is also proposing ”compulsory” retirement savings which i will speculate will be at least 2% of income, so scratch any benefit low income workers will gain from any pay rise to the new 15 dollar minimum wage,(and the flow on effect in wages above 15 bucks an hour if any),

        i could go on, but why bother, it looks like business as usual from where i sit…

        • Draco T Bastard 2.1.2.1

          According to their website it’s 3% and increasing yearly to 9%. To get this across they’re going to have to raise the minimum wage to at least $17 per hour or go for a Universal Income.

          • cricklewood 2.1.2.1.1

            Ouch thats really going to hurt people’s day to day living even 17ph is barely enough to scrape by in Auckland with two incomes at this level.
            I can imagine that the employer contribution will be the effective pay rise for the next few years… unless they have some kind of abatement for a couple it will leave a large hole in take home pay.
            The other thing I am extremely wary of is political interference in the coming years who is to say the eligibility age won’t be pushed out further etc. I worry that in 20 years or so when substantial amounts of kiwi saver come due they decide the large amount of money entering the economy will be inflationary and seek to restrict access.

            • Draco T Bastard 2.1.2.1.1.1

              I worry that in 20 years or so when substantial amounts of kiwi saver come due they decide the large amount of money entering the economy will be inflationary and seek to restrict access.

              That wouldn’t surprise me :(

              That said, I don’t think saving does anything for the economy except slow it down and boost returns to the financial sector which results, inevitably, in the economy collapsing again.

              • cricklewood

                Id tend to agree with that better to spend it now and the govt collects an appropriate amount of tax to fund super. Personal savings should be personal with the ability to use them as you wish

              • I was reading an article yesterday suggesting that we need to ‘encourage’ people to trade their KiwiSaver for annuities at retirement, because, in essence, we can’t ‘trust’ them to spend the money ‘wisely’. It’s an incredibly patronizing attitude.

      • Draco T Bastard 2.1.3

        Pretty much nothing. In fact, it’sl to hurt them in the short term but over the medium to long term it should increase work here and highly paid work at that.

        Of course, the real problem is that our exchange rate is set incorrectly (it’s based upon speculation rather than actual trade) and that our entire economic system is bunkum to boot.

    • BM 2.2

      Yeah, massive increases in living costs, nice one Labour.

      • Draco T Bastard 2.2.1

        The massive increases are going to happen one way or another as we’ve been living well beyond our means due to the misaligned exchange rate. National are, of course, promising that we can continue to live beyond our means forever.

    • Skinny 2.3

      +1 Agree, however it’s early in the day of politic’s, let alone the week.

      The PR spin merchants within National will be plotting with bullshit snake oil ready to feed their gushing shill media fan-club. Just heard the Nationals Minister of War on Terrorism, Coleman just bait Goff into commenting on their huge military spend up announcement. By Coleman’s quip of the Government is just following through on the previous Governments commitment.

  3. i am still reeling from the transformation of david cunnliffe into an animal rights activist..

    ..and am i silly to hope that the disgust expressed by cunnliffe on testing legal highs on rats/rabbits/dogs..

    ..that this will also apply/spread to the (approx) 370,000 such animals that are vivisected/tested to death..?

    ..(‘testing’ yr cosmetics/dishwashing liquids/makeup etc etc..)

    ..especially as as cunnliffe said..there is no need to test these on animals..when computer-models etc. can do the job..

    ..’cos..y’see that ‘no need’ also applies to most/all? of those over 370,000 animals that are tortured..and then killed..each and every year..

    ..computor-modelling etc would also do the job there..

    ..so why don’t they use computors then..?..i hear you ask..

    ..money..money..money..

    ..these vile excuses for human beings are part of a self-perpetuating industry..

    ..an unholy/bloody alliance between the torturers/breeders/’researchers’..

    ..a lot of money is made from being an animal-torturer..(they don’t want no computer-models messing with their gigs..

    ..it’s ‘a good little earner’..being a vivisecter..

    ..(the universities in nz alone vivisect 300,000 animals each and every year..’research/training’ being the reasons given for the/that need..)

    ..(what these stats/facts mean is that over 1,000 animals each and every day are killed after they have been used/tortured/vivisected..)

    ..so..as i say..i welcome the expected scrutiny/spotlight being shone on these torturing scumbags..

    ..by david cunnliffe/labour..

    ..in his/their reborn animal rights dudes roles…

    • Skinny 3.1

      A little harsh on Cunliffe Phil, it’s thanks to members of the Labour party like my vet nurse flatmate that campaign for animals rights and put forward well considered remits to be thrashed out. I give DC credit for responding to F/B private messages regarding another issue of concern to her, my opinion (which was ok anyway) of him rose as a result of his long thoughtful responses. Before a some fool (not you) fires a cheapshot that it was probably someone else, the typo’s & odd spelling mistake told me it was him, had the same lol.

      • phillip ure 3.1.1

        as i say skinny..i am optimistic the gaze (not only of cunnliffe) will now switch to this vivisection abomination..i do mean that..

        (see..!..i am blocking my usual/deep cynicism that the circus will move on..and this ‘deep’/important issue..will become yesterdays’ shane jones..and the torturing/killing will just continue..unabated..)

        ..and i don’t really mind how it comes about/who gets credit..

        ..and i tip my hat to those like yr friend..those active inside (blind/unthinking) organisations like the labour party..

        ..who are fighting for these same reforms this situation is calling/screaming out for..

        ..(trying to end the usual practice of green party bbq’s..when there..i am afraid burnt me out on that route..)

        • vto 3.1.1.1

          what are the alternatives …?

          ..testing on people.. ?

          .. a new role for those on Paula’s benefit .. perhaps …?

          • Jackal 3.1.1.1.1

            What are the alternatives? Use products that don’t require animal testing. For instance there is a huge amount of information showing that marijuana is far safer than these synthetic substitutes…no testing required.

    • ianmac 3.2

      Animal rights. Mr Key slid by yesterday saying that the excuse for not acting sooner on legal highs was his concern that animals might be used for testing. Smart move. Appeal to the Animal rights people and lets him off the hook.
      But wait. Mr Cunliffe agrees that he has a concern for animal rights. Check. Your next move John?

    • Rosie 3.3

      Too right phillip. I hear that Massey Uni in Palmy is one of our worst offenders for animal testing. Is that correct?

      I also think that is the place where the HRT medicine is made from mare’s urine. The mares are kept permanently in stalls, they don;’t get out at all and are kept pregnant so the levels of oestrogen necessary for the production of the medicine remain high. A tragic life for an animal who is so sensitive and emotional. (I have a strong connection with equines)

      Sorry, no link for that. I just recall an article on tv about it years ago and it stayed with me

    • Clemgeopin 3.4

      I think I heard some chap on Tv saying that they could get quite good results from testing this Sh*t on poor crustaceans! Poor crabs, prawns and snails! Oh dear. Next they will think of testing it on some bacteria and broccoli.

  4. Belladonna 4

    Quite agree Phil, it is a disgusting practice that needs to stop. These sick scientists who manage to convince themselves that it is unfortunate but necessary to torture animals need to be made to account for their actions. Good to hear David speaking up against it and informing the public it is possible to do this research using computers. This will win him votes.

    • Skinny 4.1

      Sure is Bella, I read some posts on facebook by some rat club people who were giving DC the voters nod after watching his interview on the tv news covering the issue.

      Got a laugh watching slippery Key who looked deceitful doing a flip flop, fronting the media with his bullshit ‘personally’ I’m uncomfortable with animal testing that’s the real reason for the hold up (funny he forgot to tell Dunne that porky, Pete didn’t utter a word about this to the press) umm not on rabbits, certainly not dogs, rodents yeah thats OK. A dog whistle to anymore nat rats thinking of jumping ship. Oh the pits, poor Johnny has to import dirty rats these days.

  5. a question for the ‘strategists’ in labour..

    ..who is/are the einstein/s that decided that david parker appearing on a political talkshow on sunday..

    ..was not a good enough platform for the announcement of new economic-policy..?

    ..who decided ‘no no!..we’ll put out a press-release on tuesday…!.’…was the better option..?

    ..and i guess it is a byre the bye..that after parker ‘teasing’ about his big tuesday announcement..(yep..!..we’re all wetting our pants in anticipation here..dave..)..that then there was nothing..

    ..the ensuing vaccuum leaving plenty of time/opportunity for parker to be pulled backwards thru a blackberry bush..

    ..over his/labours’ epic-fail/vote-killing policy to raise the age of the pension..

    ..who was/were the einsteins(s) who made that call..?

    ..you don’t need to answer that question..

    ..but you really need to do what needs to be done..eh..?

    ..you are getting some really shit tactic-advice..from whomever…

    • One Anonymous Bloke 5.1

      “Nothing”, Phil?

      Are you sufficiently versed in economics to make that judgement?

      What were you expecting? It’s finance policy.

      Parker raised interest in the proposal on Sunday. Today it’s getting headlines and has induced another of Key’s trademark lies:

      “What will make a difference is Labour spending so much money, rates will rise faster.”

      Fact: rates have risen “faster” since 2009.

      Pretty sure the Oravida party is spending more too.

      • phillip ure 5.1.1

        no..oab..

        ..he had nothing to talk about..hence the blackberry-bush episode..

        ..did you see it..?

        ..tell me how i have got that wrong..

    • Tautoko Viper 5.2

      Perhaps the reason for not launching the policy on Sunday was so that the launching was controlled- an uninterrupted speed followed by question and answers. Political talk shows are very dependent on the line of questioning by the interviewer who can derail the launch. If you consider the quality and motives of most of the panellists who take part in the post interview discussion, then the wisdom of using a breakfast speech launch becomes much more attractive.

  6. fisiani 6

    David Parker effectively states that if elected he will dip into your paypacket and leave you worse off. Is he one of the ABC majority in caucus? Democracy needs a strong and competent opposition.

    • concern-tr*lling there..fisi..?

    • Paul 6.2

      Fisiani, wouldn’t it be better if you concerned yourself with problems the Nats have, as you are one of their supporters?

      Is it a concern that they are taking on tobacco lobbyists?
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/polls/9984445/Ex-lobbyist-to-contest-Englishs-seat

      Is the government a competent manager of the economy having blown out the debt to over $60 billion?
      http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9380846/Public-debt-climbs-by-27m-a-day

      Just a couple of more important things for you to be concerned about…

      • fisiani 6.2.1

        Are you seriously claiming that ex-employees of a tobacco company are not supposed to be candidates? Should they be forced to wear a yellow star to let us know their sin.
        The government is a fabulous manager of the economy. Just watch for the Budget.
        On 20th September we have a stark choice.
        Forward to a brighter and brighter future or back to the seventies with a government that steals private land and steals from your pay packet to finance pet ideas.

        • Paul 6.2.1.1

          $60 billion debt and growing.
          Wonderful.

        • vto 6.2.1.2

          “back to the seventies with a government that steals private land and steals from your pay packet to finance pet ideas.”

          like the Central Plains Water scheme, backed by your government, stealing private land and using my pay packet to finance pet irrigation ideas (which are so woeful in terms of financial return that they cannot raise the money to pay for it within their dear private sector, hence steal from taxpayers. Total failure of your political philosophies fisiani. fail fail fail)

        • Draco T Bastard 6.2.1.3

          The government is a fabulous manager of the economy.

          The fact that you believe that shows just how disconnected from reality you are.

          Just watch for the Budget.

          Has the 170,000 jobs from National’s budgeting turned up yet?

        • Thread officially Godwinned. Recommended course of action: nothin’ but :roll:

    • Skinny 6.3

      Hey wingnut, listening to RNZ morning report, Slugger Bill Churlish saying NO to everything N-Spinner is front footing him on . Copped a bit of stick comparing the LP policy of raising to 9% super contribution, Bill got a hiding when comparing to the Ozzies 13%. Nice.

      Key-Joyce and their spin merchants will be sitting slumped in their chairs cursing English’s poor showing.

      Expect cheerleaders Hooton & Shrillands to turn up to try prop up PG who is already getting a pasting on here.

      • ffloyd 6.3.1

        English was as usual very predictable. Had to turn him off. Good to hear Cunliffe putting espiner in his place. GE got quite cross.

    • “.. Democracy needs a strong and competent opposition..”

      let’s hope national are up to the task..eh..?..

    • aerobubble 6.5

      Exporters see their profits disappear as printed money comes crashing through the NZ dollar door.

      Where have National been, we’re not talking about what may happen in the fruit loopy way National declares all Labour’s policies as awful, we’re talking how they failed in the housing market, failed exporters, failed children.

      And National are worried, Labour are aim full square at craving off exporters from the National party.
      Retailers are next when they realize Key’s aiming the economy at an almighty housing crash, with his high govt debt, do nothing and wait for thr GFC to have worked through and watch while milk, timber, are all sourced elsewhere.

      You have to pretty dumb to think that hot money isn’t holding up our economy.
      That hot money needs exchange goods, and so is buying up the cheapest bulkiest
      items on the economic menu and hurting our added value sectors.
      And t will all stop when the global banking system rights itself, then the banks
      will come for our homes.

  7. wyndham 7

    Most days I wake up feeling just fine, have a good breakfast, attend to my ablutions and then turn to The Standard for my daily share of intelligent comment (especially from karol) on matters political.
    Why is it that time and time again I then find the whole morning ruined by comments, if they can be called that, from someone called Pete George? There is something so snide, so dog-whistling about this person’s contributions that I end up having my day shattered. There is no end to his self-assumed expertise on everything, his implied criticisms disguised as something unbiased and apparently reasonable.
    Please, Pete George, for the sake of at least one person’s sanity – – – go away!

    • Paul 7.1

      +100
      He ruins this site.

      • phillip ure 7.1.1

        i see him as being the legal-high of political-dialogue..

        ..imitating the real thing..

        ..and getting it so so wrong…

        ..what particularly grates with him is the bullshit concern-tr*lling..the many ‘faces’..

        ..’faces’ dependant on the audience/issue being faced at that moment..

        ..if he came here and vigorously argued rightwing ‘ideas’..fair do’s..

        ..but it is the faux-concern/centreist poses he constantly strikes..

        ..and his never answering reasoned-challenges..

        ..in short..his outright/wholesale dissembling..

        ..(and this is kinda off the wall..i dunno a lot about astrological-profiles..but from what i do know/have observed in others..i reckon he is a virgo with taurus rising..

        ..or some such swamp-person mix…

        ..any other guesses..?..)

        ..and to end on a positive-note..

        ..like with the legal-highs..there will come a breaking-point..

        ..the queues of complainers will get too long/rowdy..

        ..we can but hope that comes soon..eh..?..

        ..’cos credit where credit is due..

        ..he is quite good at it..

        ..that dissembling..

        ..he is like an energy-sucking black hole on many threads..

        ..his paymasters should be rewarding him well..

        ..(and what’s with that edwards-the-younnger seriall=linking/being a fanboy of georges’ drivel..?

        ..and here is the scary bit..

        ..that edwards-the-younger moulds young/impressionable brains..

        ..at a university..(!)

        ..whoar..!..eh..?..

        ..does he have the unmentionable one as a guest-speaker..?

        ..does he scar their minds this way..?..

        • Rosie 7.1.1.1

          Yes, why does Bryce Edwards link “Your NZ” in his weekly round up. Not sure of the motivation or reasoning for that, but it does reduce his credibility.

    • Molly 7.2

      +100

      Have had the same reaction, but am trying now to use the glimpse of his avatar to practise empathy and compassion for those that are “without”.

      Will keep you updated on how I go…

    • ianmac 7.3

      I can never understand why the debate with Pete continues. He is as slippery as John Key. And the issues he seems to raise are never resolved. I tend to skip all the comments and replies after his name. Must be too old to bother.

    • Rosie 7.4

      Don’t let PG ruin your morning wyndham. There’s too much good thing going on, on this site. I share your frustration, however I when I see his name and a giant disrupted thread trailing in his wake. I just scroll- on- by until I get to something relevant . I have made a suggestion to readers and commenters at 1.2.3.1 at 9.52 am above.

      I would love to see the :roll: response reignited.

  8. Paul 8

    Open mike is rapidly degenerating into the Pete George hour.

    • ffloyd 8.1

      Totally. Is he related to m hooton?

      • Draco T Bastard 8.1.1

        To be honest, I think that may be an insult to Hooton.

      • David H 8.1.2

        Naa Hooten writes Hootens Horse shit on NBR.

        Petey writes Horse shit where ever he goes. He’s like a Puppy dog He just can’t help pissing on the carpet.

    • JK 8.2

      Yes -i’ve noticed that Open Mike has become a PG hour and its booooorrrrrrrrrring. Boring, Boring.
      Not at all what it was a few weeks ago. Is it time for the moderators to step up and put a ban on him for a while ? ?

      • Draco T Bastard 8.2.1

        Banning him for awhile doesn’t make any difference – you just feel the same pain when he comes back.

      • blue leopard 8.2.2

        That seems a little unfair JK, I note that the first comment was by felix today, fairly well inciting PG into making a comment. Yesterday’s (was it yesterday, can’t be arsed going to check) Open Mike was all about PG and he hadn’t even commented!

        I don’t agree with all Pete George says or his tactics at times, however a lot of the noise recently has been to do how people are responding to him, rather than due to PG. Some of his comments do assist some pretty important debates.

        It would be good if those responding to and inciting PG got a grip and thought a bit about how their own actions are affecting this ‘issue’…because it is starting to look more like a schoolyard dynamic that bring to mind a certain statement that Dick Emery was famous for more than anything else.

        There are some pretty important events occurring in this country, if you wish to focus on them – focus on them.

        • weka 8.2.2.1

          I think you underestimate how distruptive many people find PG. For those that don’t mind him so much, your comment makes sense. For those of us that see him as an out and out tr8ll*, then the upscaling of antagonism to him recently also makes sense.

          • blue leopard 8.2.2.1.1

            I don’t mind at all when people call bullshit on bullshit, it is good to do that.

            Sometimes DFTT is in order.

            Sometimes that doesn’t cut it but…

            I think it is getting a bit rubbish to incite him to comment and then complain about Open Mike being dedicated to him, when he hasn’t even started the subject. JK @ 8.2 didn’t do this – but this is what has occurred twice now on Open Mike.

            • weka 8.2.2.1.1.1

              DFTT implies that he is in fact a tr8ll. Which means the normal rules of discourse don’t apply.

              “I don’t mind at all when people call bullshit on bullshit, it is good to do that.”

              Everything PG does and says is bullshit. Even on the occasions that his comments make sense, it’s still bullshit because it’s part of the whole centrist, I’m more of a reasonable person than anyone else persona that masks the fact that he is right wing and undermines the left at any opportunity he gets. That persona does damage. He is not someone I am willing to take a face value, comment by comment, because every commment he makes is part of a larger context of clusterfucked communication and bullshit.

              • All that amounts to is you don’t tolerate views you don’t like so make things up to try and discredit. This demonstrates your intolerance and nastiness towards alternatives and helps highlight the issues being raised. It doesn’t seem to be a very smart approach but may reflect frustration at a lack of success with your own agenda. If you had a good case to argue that’s what you’d do instead of lashing out at different views and approaches.

                Anger doesn’t make a good argument. It’s curious to see such bitter anti-centrists.

                • felix

                  1) No, it shows that weka understands you very well. Probably better than you do.

                  2) It’s not your “views”, it’s your behaviour, The only views you have ever put forward are the occasional bit of racism.

                  3) You have never, ever offered an “alternative” to anything.

                  4) You’d be hard pressed to find anyone who has observed your behaviour online over a couple of years who wouldn’t agree with weka. You’ll always be able to fool a few noobs though.

                • weka

                  “All that amounts to is you don’t tolerate views you don’t like so make things up to try and discredit.”

                  Pretty strange coincidence then that of all the people on this site that I disagree with, the only person I call a tr*ll is you.

  9. Breaking news on TVNZ – The Government has announced it’s investing $100.9 million into strengthening the Defence Force.

    So what’s that then? Using not having money as an excuse to fund social welfare projects or night classes and the like, and after running the military down to save costs, they find enough to stump up enough to buy some nod doubt American made nonsense or half a wing of one of the Australian fleet that doesn’t work properly.

    Can’t wait for the spin show to start. My guess is Key hides the US request to curb the yellow peril in the pacific, in the style of drunken cabaret crooner.

    • Paul 9.1

      China won’t like that.
      We are being caught in a vice between two powers trying to control the Pacific.
      Key’s subservient approach to both will cost us big time in the future.

      • The Al1en 9.1.1

        And they will grip hard too. My best suggestion would be to declare NZ neutral, failing that, and the opposite of Key, choose the winning side at the UN and have productive trade negotiations minus the taste of corruption lingering on the lips of cabinet ministers.

      • Draco T Bastard 9.1.2

        NZ’s only real option at this point in time is to declare ourselves completely, totally and utterly neutral. Nothing less will do.

        • Colonial Viper 9.1.2.1

          There are some strong advantages to remaining allied to the west, albeit we need to bolster our reputation as fair and honest brokers in all international affairs.

          • Draco T Bastard 9.1.2.1.1

            There are some strong advantages to remaining allied to the west

            I can’t think of any. Did you read this? I have a tendency to agree with him about our Western allies.

    • Draco T Bastard 9.2

      Probably buying Australia’s F/A18’s after they buy the new F35 JSF.

      Doesn’t really matter what it is though as the end result will be more dependence upon the US for defence and a totally useless defence capability.

    • vto 9.3

      what’s happened to our benign strategic environment? (one of Helen Clark’s most gob-smackingly silly utterances, and there weren’t too many of those..)

      • The Al1en 9.3.1

        I’ve not googled it yet, so I don’t know. But milk, food and kiwi ingenuity to all who come in peace sounds better than the mess trying to butter both sides of the bread will make.

      • Draco T Bastard 9.3.2

        what’s happened to our benign strategic environment?

        The global economy is collapsing and, yeah, it was a rather stupid thing for Clark to say.

  10. Jenny 10

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/9987907/US-braces-for-more-tornados

    With more energy in the system, will Auckland see its third deadly tornado in three years?

  11. Bill 11

    Been coming across a lot of Pikkety lately. For those who haven’t, his book ” Capital in the Twenty First Century” has a central argument/observation that any democracy we have is inevitably devolving into plutocracy.

    Piketty’s argument is that, in an economy where the rate of return on capital outstrips the rate of growth, inherited wealth will always grow faster than earned wealth.

    http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/apr/28/thomas-piketty-capital-surprise-bestseller

    • pikettys’ book is the most important tome in a long time…

      ..put that together with the spirit level..

      ..and you have your rationales/a blueprint for a new/much better way of doing things..

      ..i consider myself an early-adopter of piketty..

      ..here is what i have found/collected…

      ..a (rough) primer/archive of his words/ideas..

      http://whoar.co.nz/?s=piketty

    • Draco T Bastard 11.2

      Yep, really need to read that one but, then, I’ve been saying that the biggest problem we have is the rich for years.

    • karol 11.3

      Thanks for the tip.

    • Ergo Robertina 11.4

      Piketty’s prescription includes (to quote from Bill’s link) ‘an 80% tax on incomes above $500,000 a year in the US, assuring his readers there would be neither a flight of top execs to Canada nor a slowdown in growth, since the outcome would simply be to suppress such incomes’.

      Labour and the Greens should adopt this as policy.
      It will not raise a lot in revenue in New Zealand, but that is not the point.
      These excessive salaries are immoral and extortionate.
      And even the CEOs themselves are starting to acknowledge the fact – The Warehouse boss Mark Powell recently described his $1.7 million salary as a ‘ridiculous amount’.

    • Colonial Viper 11.6

      Piketty’s ideas are decent, but they are 25 years too late. We’ve actually moved far past the time the assumptions he uses will actually hold. Care of one of favourite websites Zerohedge:

      By Charles Hugh-Smith:

      The real problem with Piketty’s taxation/social welfare solution to wealth inequality is that it does nothing to change the source of systemic inequality, debt-based neofeudalism and neocolonialism. Simply raising more taxes to fund more social welfare programs leaves the unjust, rapacious, and ultimately destabilizing Status Quo entirely intact.

      I have laid out another path in my books: refuse serfdom, abandon participation in neofeudalism and neocolonialism, and build parallel systems of cooperation and wealth-building that are not debt-dependent.

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/critique-pikettys-solution-widening-wealth-inequality

      And by James Kunstler:

      I doubt that the Warren Buffets and Jamie Dimons of the world will see their wealth confiscated via some new policy of the Internal Revenue Service — e.g. the proposed “tax on wealth.” Rather, its more likely that they’ll be strung up on lampposts or dragged over three miles of pavement behind their own limousines. After all, the second leading delusion in our culture these days, after the wish for a something-for-nothing magic energy rescue remedy, is the idea that we can politically organize our way out of the epochal predicament of civilization that we face. Piketty just feeds that secondary delusion.

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-28/second-biggest-delusion-us-culture

      In relation to today’s conversations, my view is that Reserve Bank goals and interest rate settings are akin to trying to cleverly keep steam pressure up on the Titanic’s engines while the compartments are filling up with water. At this point nothing apart from getting ready for fossil fuel energy depletion, climate change, GFC II and permanent global economic contraction matters one whit.

  12. TeWhareWhero 12

    I don’t think that PG ruins the site. He’s a bit pompous – and his theme song could be ‘I can see clearly now the brain has gone’ – but I think he’s an excellent example of a right-whinger trying hard to prove that he occupies the political centre – and that’s always good for a laugh.

  13. vto 13

    Why do those survey firms who phone and ask for a portion of your day to answer their questions never pay for the service? I make a point of responding “yes sure, I can participate but like you we charge for our time, so if you can give me a name and address for sending an invoice we can proceed”

    the responses range from a laugh to a pause to a short no. it brings the call to a rapid end.

    can I recommend that others take such an approach?

  14. Rosie 14

    Surprisingly good editorial in the Dom Post today on Dunne’s actions re the Psychoactive Substances bill. A good read:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/comment/editorials/9986208/Editorial-Dunne-drops-synthetics-ball

  15. Te Reo Putake 15

    Interesting article in the Grauniad about the difficulties of dealing to the racist party UKIP. One conclusion is very relevent to the upcoming election here; that attacking UKIP for being racist implies that voters attracted to them are also racist. The lesson for NZ? Attacking Key can be counter productive because it can seen as an attack on swinging voters who like him, even if it’s not in their interests to vote for him.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/28/ukip-european-election-accused-of-racism

  16. Jrobin 16

    Disappointing to see your negative comment on Monetary policy, Karol. As several Labour MPs noted recently, you have to generate income before you can redistribute it. I am making no aims as an economics expert but it looks like Parkers ideas are bold and very smart. Not more handouts or bleeding interest payments to foreign banks, instead he proposes to channel inflation control back into the local economy though kiwisaver. Note he has written in out clauses for low income earners Karol. Overseas banks will hate ths policy expect some vicious attacks by corporate interests. But the main thing is this will be great for higher wage employment and local industry. The guy is a genius and the miracle is that it didn’t get leaked. Key was left blundering around suggesting old hat mortgage controls. Well done Labour.

  17. Southland Times editorial on new Nat Clutha/Southland candidate Todd Barclay (tobacco industry lobbyist)
    OPINION: The staff of legal high shops up and down the country might suddenly find themselves contemplating a change of career. Can we suggest they consider trying for a National Party candidacy somewhere?
    It worked for Todd Barclay.
    Hard on the news that all legal highs will be off the shelves in a couple of weeks, what with them being so harmful and everything, the Nats have chosen for one of their safest seats, Clutha-Southland, a man whose job it was to represent the interests of the tobacco industry.
    The one that kills about 5000 of us each year.
    Not that Barclay’s employer, Philip Morris, is denying any more that tobacco is a dangerous product. It now openly acknowledges as much.
    The thing is, this oh-so-slowly dawning self-awareness hasn’t stopped the company defending, as best it can, its right to keep making money from the stuff anyway.
    Because, after all, it’s legal.
    Can we at least muster a sharp intake of breath, perhaps followed by a wheezy cough, at the audacity of this candidacy selection?
    To be fair, Barclay has come and gone from Philip Morris in short order. He had his tobacco job for eight months and says he joined the company to learn about corporate politics. In fact, he says he doesn’t condone smoking. (Small point: if you don’t condone something you really shouldn’t make money in its service.)
    There are things that an eager-to-learn young man should want to know about the tobacco industry even before he gets into it. And one of those, surely, would be the legitimacy of that whole “millions of dead people” kerfuffle. Was he really untroubled by that? Does he know something reassuring the rest of us don’t?
    Before this, Barclay was a Beehive insider. A 24-year-old who grew up in the south, he has worked for Cabinet ministers Bill English, Gerry Brownlee and Hekia Parata. Make what you will that after those three Big Tobacco seemed an agreeable next step.
    The extent to which his electorate will be willing to set aside this poisonous background remains to be seen. It’s up to Clutha-Southland voters to determine what significance, if any, to afford the fact that Barclay chose that career move, however temporarily. But it must be said that for a man barely in his mid-20s, he has a past to live down.
    In the meantime that hoary old line that a gumboot could get elected in Clutha-Southland if it was a National gumboot should be revisited on the basis that a gumboot would have a more benign public safety record.
    As for Associate Health Minister Peter Dunne’s announcement that, come to think of it, by golly it would be better if all legal highs were taken off the shelves and returned only once their safety was proven — that’s a case of better late than never. But not nearly as good as getting it right the first time.
    The grace period that had allowed 41 legal highs to keep being sold before the new testing regime was in place was far too long and intense public unhappiness resulted.
    Dunne’s insistence that had his hand not been forced by Opposition pressure the law change would still have gone ahead, but without warning and therefore without stockpiling, may be true. But the Opposition can hardly be blamed for preparing its own policy to do something the public wanted but the Government had not displayed any interest in doing.
    And something, we might and, that it had previously portrayed as pretty much impossible. Turns out where there’s a will, there’s a way.
    – © Fairfax NZ News

    • toad 17.1

      In the meantime that hoary old line that a gumboot could get elected in Clutha-Southland if it was a National gumboot should be revisited on the basis that a gumboot would have a more benign public safety record.

      Plenty of campaign fodder here. Has a Green candidate been selected for Clutha-Southland yet?

      I see another tobacco industry lobbyist, Chris Bishop, is contesting Hutt South for the Nats. Wonder if they will throw Carrick Graham a seat as well?

      • bad12 17.1.1

        Lolz, i lived in Clutha-Southland for a couple of years, Greens are more than frowned on down there, i remember walking into the post-shop the morning after 9/11 and one old bloke had to be quieted by the postie as he started whining in a loud voice that i was ”one of them”…

        • weka 17.1.1.1

          All the old hippies are coming out the wordwork down there, so I think things have changed a bit in recent years. Robert Guyton’s just been elected to his second term on the regional council and he doesn’t seem to hide his green light under a bushel ;-)

      • fisiani 17.1.2

        Chris Bishop has not been selected. The National Party has a lot of potential candidates and not one is a union hack and no one cares about their sexuality.

        • McFlock 17.1.2.1

          indeed.
          But in Clutha-Southland, national selected a corporate tobacco salesman and Labour selected a specialist in public health.

          Says it all, really.

        • Murray Olsen 17.1.2.2

          “no one cares about their sexuality”
          Well, apart from hoping that none of them will breed……..

        • Draco T Bastard 17.1.2.3

          Of course National is full of union hacks – they’re just called business associations instead. National are quite fine with their own unions, they just don’t like the workers having theirs.

  18. Draco T Bastard 18

    Here’s something that needs fact checking:

    “This significant investment in our defence force, combined with the savings and reinvestment achieved through recent reforms, means the Government is addressing the long term funding gap which we inherited,” Defence Minister Jonathan Coleman said.

    Because I’m pretty sure that Labour ramped up defence spending after National ran it down in the 1990s. It’s why we have the LAVs, the new aircraft and the new patrol boats. I’d heard that National had run it down from their first budget this term as well.

    • greywarbler 18.1

      NACTs have just announced that they are obtaining more defence infrastructure “which Labour had ordered”. Like spending is something that Labour does, the profligate wasters, whereas the high-minded wisearses of NACT make considered investments when they spend the taxpayers money in a very tight-fisted manner. Such poseurs.

      • dv 18.1.1

        “”“which Labour had ordered”.

        So why did we bother to change to NACTs?

        • greywarbler 18.1.1.1

          dv
          Are you trying to make sense of it all? If you haven’t so far then don’t think too hard, it can seem like the tea party in Alice in Wonderland where they all shift around one place every so often. At least that seems to have been the case in the recent past. Now we might change the scenario, and myself I’d prefer to move away from Alice’s arena this time.

    • Allow me to answer for Pete: ‘National didn’t completely de-fund the defence force when they got in to power so it’s inaccurate to say they ran down the budget. And Labour didn’t completely fund every single thing the defence force wanted with a few spare million on top, so it may be accurate to say they left a funding gap.’

    • McFlock 18.3

      if only there were an impartial,/i> fact checking website for NZ political claims…

    • Draco T Bastard 18.4

      Labour’s response

      “Today’s pre-Budget announcement shows the Government has been forced to admit the damage it has done in Defence. Minister Jonathan Coleman’s cuts have put our Defence Force at risk and seriously undermined our armed services.

      “Funding of about $134 million a year is less than half the amount the Government sought to cut from the Defence Force with its cost cutting target of $350 million a year.

      Yeah, that’s what I thought – National, despite always going on about having a decent defence force, had been cutting the defence budget again.

      • blue leopard 18.4.1

        +1 DTB

        National have been like rats in the pantry busy eating away at things behind the scenes.

        Quietly cutting spending on everything desperately in order to make up for the fact that they haven’t got enough revenue to achieve the targets they promised re returning to surplus – due to their stupid tax cuts and asset sales.

        It is a great pity people didn’t vote for a left-wing government last time around – who were making more conservative promises- that they most-likely would have achieved – and without doing the damage that National have done and are doing to our country.

  19. greywarbler 19

    Politicians – WTF
    In the discussion on synthetic marijuana moves I heard John Key say he was uncomfortable about something. Was that reported in the MSM? I realised a simple fact about the PM.
    He works on a simple binary principle – comfortable/uncomfortable!

    And the good old USA is stirring up controversy and commenting from its superior high ground on both the Russian/Ukraine afffair that the USA has had some effect on warming up through its activities along with its NATO sidekicks, and now on the China-Philippines argument over sea area control around their coastlines. UbiquitoUSA.

    • freedom 19.1

      and John Kerry is saying Israel is at risk of becoming an apartheid state.
      Past tense must mean something different in the northern hemisphere

  20. Rodel 20

    Great comment from John Banks a few minutes ago on TV3 news, re: testing synthetic drugs on animals….”rats need to live in dignity too” While to some extent I agree with him I think he should know best.

    • Belladonna 20.1

      I didn’t hear it but am somewhat cynical. He has been in a position for years when he could have done something about it but hasn’t.

      • phillip ure 20.1.1

        banks is an example of the premise that nobody is all bad..

        ..he had tears in his eyes when speaking opposing this bill..

        ..and on the grounds of his objections to dogs/animals being tortured/overdosed to death..

        ..testing this crap..

        ..so i don’t doubt his sincerity on that/then..

        ..and auckland has a lot of dog parks..

        ..and that is down to banks when mayor..

        ..(but that’s pretty much all i’ve got..)

        (oh..!..and i know he has given money to/supported animal rights groups..in a variety of ways..)

        ..but funny thing..i think he still eats them..(maybe not dogs..)

  21. CentreOfLeft 21

    From the Herald today:

    New Zealand infant formula exporters are having to take “corrective actions” over issues ranging from a dirty computer keyboard to factory air quality and temperature control in order to comply with strict new Chinese import regulations, a top official says.

    The Government announced last week that 12 of this country’s 13 baby milk manufacturers had to carry out changes at their production facilities before they could become registered for export under the rules that come into force on Thursday.

    The 13 manufacturers include Fonterra, South Island dairy processors Westland Milk Products and Synlait, as well as Auckland-based exporters Sutton Group and New Image. A ministry spokesman declined to name the one manufacturer that had been immediately able to comply with the new regulations.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11245825

    Who is the one manufacturer that met with the new regulations? Are there any ties to a certain company staring with “O” and linked to a compromised cabinet minister?

  22. Penny Bright 22

    FYI – Just posted this on Kiwiblog in response to this article:

    “Crime reduction targets on track

    April 29th, 2014 at 10:00 am by David Farrar
    Judith Collins announced:

    Justice Minister Judith Collins says the latest Justice sector Better Public Services results for reducing crime and re-offending, are the best quarterly results since the targets were set.

    The Better Public Services (BPS) targets set a goal of a 15 per cent reduction in total crime by June 2017, compared to baseline figures from June 2011.

    “It’s fantastic news that our latest Justice sector BPS results show the total crime rate has reduced by 14 per cent between June 2011 and December 2013,” says Ms Collins.

    “The latest results for this period also show the youth crime rate has dropped by 27 per cent, violent crime is down 10 per cent and overall re-offending is down by 11.7 per cent.

    “New Zealand now has the lowest crime rate since 1978 but most importantly, the results mean New Zealanders are experiencing around 56,000 fewer crimes a year, leading to fewer victims of crime. ….”

    MY COMMENT:

    Where are the ‘white collar’ crime statistics?

    Are there any?

    How about ‘bribery and corruption’ statistics?

    How come on the watch of Minister for CORRUPTION (oops!) Justice, Judith Collins , New Zealand has STILL not ratified the UN Convention Against Corruption (UNCAC)?

    How come Minister for CORRUPTION (oops!) Justice, Judith Collins promised Transparency International last year, that her ‘Organised Crime and Anti-Corruption Legislation Bill’ would be presented to Parliament in 2013, and it STILL has yet to surface in the NZ Parliamentary legislation ‘sausage machine’?

    (I double-checked with her Parliamentary Office).

    http://www.transparency.org.nz/UNCAC-Ratification

    Most Recent Report on UNCAC Ratification:

    New Zealand Almost Ready to Ratify UNCAC!

    Ten years after signing UNCAC in 2003, New Zealand appears almost ready to ratify the United Nations Convention against Corruption. New Zealand’s failure for a decade to take action to ratify the UN Convention disappointing for a country that prides itself on its clean international image. TINZ has actively encouraged ratification for the last 10 years as noted in our letter to several ministers in August.

    In a much welcomed development in a letter to Transparency International New Zealand dated 7 August 2013, the Hon Judith Collins, Minister of Justice, states that she has “announced a package of legislative reforms that will allow New Zealand to ratify UNCAC.”

    The necessary amendments to make New Zealand’s domestic law compliant with the treaty obligations will be included in the Organized Crime and Anti-Corruption Bill. Once passed, the minister has confirmed that “officials will promptly take steps to deposit New Zealand’s instrument of ratification of UNCAC.”

    http://www.transparency.org.nz/docs/2013/UNCAC-Letter-%20to-Hon-Ministers-McCully-Collins-Groser-30-May-2013.pdf

    http://www.transparency.org.nz/docs/2013/Hon-Judith-Collins-Minister-of-Justice-Letter-to-TINZ.pdf

    Has Transparency International New Zealand had anything to say about the recent developments involving Minister for CORRUPTION (oops!) Justice, Judith Collins and her (in my considered opinion) CORRUPT conflict of interest, in TOADYING for her friends and husband’s private company – Oravida?

    Has Transparency International New Zealand had anything to say about the recent developments involving Minister for BRIBERY (oops! ) Foreign Affairs – Murray McCully, with his, in my considered opinion offer of a job ( errr…. BRIBE) as ‘Pacific Economic Ambassador’ to shifty Shane JUDA$ Jones – treacherous, whopper waka swapper?

    After looking at the Transparency International New Zealand website – I see nothing covering these developments.

    I guess that if Transparency International New Zealand starts doing some REAL anti-corruption ‘whistleblowing’ – they might lose their Government funding from a variety of sources?

    Of which there seems to be a considerable amount?

    http://www.transparency.org.nz/Partners-and-Sponsors

    Penny Bright

    ‘Anti-corruption / anti-privatisation Public Watchdog’.

    http://www.pennybright4mayor.org.nz
    www,dodgyjohnhasgone.com
    http://www.occupyaucklandvsaucklandcouncilappeal.org.nz

    • North 22.1

      Actually if you work with police prosecutors on a daily basis as I do you’d know that the word from on police high is that now people gotta be given ‘warnings’ first off rather than charging and proceeding to court.

      Don’t really want to say – ‘unless you’re young, black and scum’ – but that’s the guts of it.

      The Milky Bar Krud is cooking the books. While keeping the confidence of Serco’s shareholders more or less

      Edit: sorry, this was meant to be a response to DTB below.

  23. Philj 23

    xox
    Did you know NZ has an arrangement for 1000 young Chinese to stay/work in NZ for one year? This has been going for a few years now. I spoke to one last weekend. Most illuminating. The offer is online in China and is snapped up in 5 minutes! I was lucky to talk about what is happening in China from a well spoken, albeit with an American accent, young guy about global and internet issues. A real highlight of my visit to Christchurch.

  24. Draco T Bastard 24

    Ah, Serco, the little big company that just couldn’t.

  25. North 25

    Aue ! This lady is pissed off…….wonder why ? That it might simply be ‘balance’ is a horrible thought.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/9989399/Legal-highs-about-face-a-mockery

    Hahahahaha ! What a Dork Dunney ? Gets nothing right. Except the salary and the super’ and the spot at the trough. And lay preacher at some bilious bastion of anal white privilege white wooden church somewhere out Karori way.

    Nearly sixty years ago there was a fulla used to turn up at Ellerslie Primary School where I started my education. Called the ‘Funny Doctor’ – wore a bow tie, clown’s nose, drove a little round mudguards Austiny thing – magic tricks – bold checked pants – we loved him us easily pleased five year olds.

    Reckon Petey’s the dodgy remittance man of that family.

  26. North 26

    Paul Henry. TV3. Tonight. Vicious Old Visceral Tory Queen ! On 3 Hundy. Couldn’t give a fuck about ChCh. Where he and his darling ShonKey Python don’t live. But Oh How They Care ! Piece of shit is that Old Queen.

  27. North 27

    Dull Old Parker. Had VOQ backing off a bit there. Well done DOP. Sad for you VOQ. On two and a half hundy now darling.

  28. vto 28

    This is a likely story http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/9992233/Immigration-controls-to-dampen-house-prices

    … a New Zealand government using immigration to keep house prices low? Yeah right. Everyone knows that every government opens the immigration taps 12-18 months out from an election. Helen Clark did it. John Key is doing it right now. As long as immigration sits at around 30,000 p.a. then we have upward pressure on house values, and that keeps everyone voting for the incumbent government no matter what.

    I just do not believe that a Labour government would not again open the immigration taps to enhance their chances of re-election in the future.

    It is the oldest trick in the book.

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  • Terrorising Australia’s Muslim population
    We should be suspicious when 800 police conduct “terror” raids across Australia, but only one person is charged with a relevant terrorism offence (of which we know few details). We should be suspicious of the lurid tales of terrorists planning...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Another Labour leader has resigned and as per usual, the media lost its min...
    Another Labour leader has resigned and as per usual, the media lost its mind. I know the Labour party has its problems and I’m not even going to try to prescribe what should be done about it. But what I...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Loyalty, Leadership and the Labour Party
    My first after the election and I can only say I’m feeling pretty sad.  It was a terrible result, and feels even more so knowing the number of volunteers hours, hard work & sacrifice made by so many people who...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • A Study in Party Stability
    . In terms of long-term stability, one party above stands above all others, with the exception of personality-driven groups such as NZ First and United Future. That party is the Greens. If the Labour Party wants to look elsewhere for...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • Cunliffe vs Robertson – Round 2
    Much to the disappointment of the NZ Herald and other right wing pundits who have decided they would like to appoint the next Labour leader, Cunliffe has surprised by deciding to damn the Caucus and appeal directly to the members...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • The tasks before the left and labour movement
    Anyone on the left would have been disappointed at the result of the election. There was an opportunity to win, but that got lost through a combination of factors. There were tactical decisions made by Labour, the Greens and Internet-Mana...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • From Fiji’s dictatorship to ‘democracy’ – the AUT student team on t...
    Mads Anneberg’s profile on Ricardo Morris and Repúblika. David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. THREE STUDENTS from AUT University covered Fiji’s historic “from dictatorship to democracy” general election this month. While the election arguably legitimised Voreqe Bainimarama’s so-called 2006...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • David Cunliffe Resigns As Labour Leader – Forces Robertson Out of the Bel...
    David Cunliffe has made a smart move, resigning as the leader of the Labour Party so as to force a leadership primary campaign. The move draws rival Grant Robertson out of the beltway to parts of the country where he...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • Deep thought vs Deep prejudice
    . . This letter to the editor appeared in The Listener, on 27 September, and caught my attention; . . Mr Dawson wrote in response to one of those typically unthinking comments which  condemned the poor for their “unbridled, reckless...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • The NZ National voters elected
    The NZ National voters elected...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The post election postmortem is giving me post p...
    I feel the need to contribute to the discourse. This is a new experience for me. Not having an opinion, but expressing it on a popular forum in a public sphere. That’s why I have waited till now and put...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • A dictionary of education terms and definitions, brought to you by the let...
    Free to all TDB readers, please enjoy your very own cut-out-and-keep handy primer of terms that I predict you will need to know over the next three years… Achievement Gap (noun) Synonym for wealth gap. ACT (abstract noun) Intangible. Reported to exist in...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • A Mines Rescue brigadesman’s perspective on the Pike River Mine
    My husband and I lived in Greymouth in 2010, we were a coal mining family.  The day Pike River Mine blew up and the days following changed us profoundly, as it did for so many.  This is a Mines Rescue...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • The Left Triumphant! A Counterfactual History of the Last Twelve Months.
    DID IT REALLY HAVE TO END LIKE THIS? Reading through the commentary threads of the left-wing blogs it is impossible to not feel the anger; the sense of betrayal; the impression of having had something vital ripped from their grasp;...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Myles Thomas: The media won it!
    Make no mistake, John Key is a clever communicator – reasonable, authoritative and relaxed – but without the media he wouldn’t be PM. Depending on your viewpoint, New Zealand’s news media are either a bunch of Grey Lynn lefties or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • Not Learning Lessons Past: the West’s Response to IS
    In an earlier posting Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland, I noted that the first lesson of conflict learned by Robert McNamara was “understand your adversary”. If we have honourable objectives, our first and most important weapon is empathy. In the Vietnam War,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Dr Jarrod Gilbert – Proof of David Farrar’s deception: my ...
    In the lead up to the election the Minister of Corrections Anne Tolley launched a gang policy. In order to justify the government’s approach she used gang figures that overstated the gang problem. Not by a little bit, but a...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • SPECIAL FEATURE: Stuart Nash – Red To The Rescue?
    SPECIAL FEATURE by Selwyn Manning. IF THE ELECTION RESULT which was dished out to Labour was not enough to incite an immediate leadership primary, then the caucus’ refusal to recognise David Cunliffe as the leader should cement it. Now is...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • Has the one party state crackdown begun already? Left wing NZ activist grou...
    Well known left wing activist social media group, ‘John Key Has Left Down NZ’ has been shut down on Facebook. At 11.40pm last night, Facebook, without any warning shut the group down siting a breach of terms of service as...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • Why Cunliffe should probably just let Nash & Robertson win
    We have to face some very unpalatable home truths. If you are a left wing political person, best you put your vote now to the Green Party, although you’ll have to do that all the while the Greens frantically tell you...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • The graceless win of Kelvin Davis
    The graceless win of Cameron Slater’s mate in the North, Kelvin Davis is difficult to swallow. Here Cameron Slater’s mate in the North is shitting on Hone Harawira by calling Hone all steam, no hangi as Kelvin rubs his ganged up win into...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • So Labour shifted too far to the left?
    So Labour shifted too far to the left?   Here’s the ill-judged view of Josie Pagani in the Pundit “Labour must change”: “At the last election I made myself a heretic when I wrote a column mentioning how unpopular the...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • Uncomplicated Loyalties: Why Cunliffe and the Labour Left Cannot Win
    THE STORY of David Cunliffe’s leadership of the Labour Party has been one of missed opportunities and unforced errors. That he was the only choice available to those who wanted to rid the Labour Party of its neoliberal cuckoos is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • So we can expect this now?
    So we can expect this now?...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Can Labour be saved? Why Whaleoil & National won and why we need a new ...
    As the shock of my optimism that NZers would recoil from the real John Key as exposed by Dirty Politics and mass surveillance duplicities wears off, I am surprised to find that the right in NZ are not content with...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Three more years (up shit creek and paddling hard)
    “If the future is not green, there is no future. If the future is not you, there is no future”. Emma Thompson’s stirring words to the climate marchers in London last Sunday are worth considering in the aftermath of the...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • One Party State
    In years to come this election will be seen as a historic turning point towards one party rule. I don`t mean this literally, absolute single party dictatorship is not in prospect. In the New Zealand context though, one party has...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • No More. The Left Falls.
    . We cannot be beaten down Because we are down already. We can only rise up and if you should beat us down, We will rise again. And again. And again… And when you tire of beating us down, We...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Hang tight everyone – Marama Davidson campaign reflection
    To the many people who had expressed their overwhelming support for me to enter Parliament this election – thank you. That the Greens held steady in a big loss for progressive politics is an achievement. We are hopeful that after...
    The Daily Blog | 22-09
  • New flag for NZ once Key signs TPPA
    New flag for NZ once Key signs TPPA...
    The Daily Blog | 22-09
  • Reflecting on Elections Past
    There are a number of past elections that can give the left in New Zealand guidance and hope. Two major points though. Major parties require leaders who can bridge the political divide through strength of personality, vision of what it...
    The Daily Blog | 22-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kelly Ellis – The Reptile Room
    I stress, at the outset, that I’ve got nothing against reptiles. Some of my best friends are reptiles. Some say I am one, but I’m not really. I just emulate that ability to sit, stationary for hours in court, eyes...
    The Daily Blog | 22-09
  • The success of right-wing counter messaging in the election
    One of the reasons National won the election was due to its success in counter messaging – and the way so many media commentators ran with th the right-wing spin. Here are some examples. Dirty Politics The original message was...
    The Daily Blog | 22-09
  • New Flag competition
    New Flag competition...
    The Daily Blog | 21-09
  • No time for self-pity
    After 23 meetings across the largest non-Maori electorate in the country – almost all of which went fantastically, approx 4,500km on the odometer, positive MSM and social media coverage, and polling well, I admit my team and I headed to...
    The Daily Blog | 21-09
  • The 30 second speech that could have saved the Moment of Truth
    As the dust settles and we struggle to understand what the bloody hell happened on Saturday, many point to Kim’s failure at the Moment of Truth to present his evidence. I think that Kim was poorly advised and that politics requires a...
    The Daily Blog | 21-09
  • Internet MANA and the 2014 election
    It was always going to be a hard task for Hone Harawira to hold onto his Te Tai Tokerau seat when the political establishment united in a coalition to defeat him and the chance for Internet MANA to bring more...
    The Daily Blog | 21-09
  • New Zealand Red Cross Responds to Drought in Tonga
    New Zealand Red Cross has sent an aid worker and two desalination units, to turn seawater into safe drinking water in the drought-hit Ha’apai islands of Tonga....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Can you ever tell if an email is real or forged?
    Computer industry veteran Brian Eardley-Wilmot warns that we should never take claims about stolen emails at face value....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • NZ MPs to attend the ASPG Annual Conference in Sydney
    New Zealand MPs to attend the Australasian Study of Parliament Group Annual Conference in Sydney...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Independent Maori seats still needed in Parliament
    “He’s got to be joking!” is the reaction of the president of the Maori Party, Rangimarie Naida Glavish to a call by a former Labour Minister of Maori Affairs, Dover Samuels, for debate by Maori on whether the Maori electorates...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Support for Democratic Rights in Hong Kong
    Rallies supporting the rights for universal suffrage will take place all over New Zealand today and tomorrow...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Trout Mass-Poisoned in New Zealand
    Trout Mass-Poisoned in New Zealand The Graf Boys New Zealand has some of the best trout fishing in the world! Every year thousands of international visitors wade pristine rivers in search of the freshwater game fish....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • New Zealand’s 2014 Hottest Vegetarians Crowned
    With winter gone things are heating up, and things just got even hotter with the crowning of New Zealand’s hottest vegetarians, says animal advocacy group SAFE. Marking World Vegetarian Day, 1st October, director James Napier Robertson and actor...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • A day to remember our duty to look after our senior citizens
    Human Rights Commissioner Dr Jackie Blue says International Day of the Older Person (1 October) is a United Nations day to celebrate our senior citizens, but also acknowledge the need to protect our kaumatua, or older people from abuse and...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Clear data needed on impact of benefit sanctions on children
    A lack of data on benefit sanctions means there is no way of knowing whether welfare reform is helping or harming children, says Child Poverty Action Group....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • The socialist alternative to austerity and war
    Public meeting: After the New Zealand election—the socialist alternative to austerity and war By Tom Peters 29 September 2014...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • New recruits to boost border protection
    Twenty six new recruits began an intensive nine-week training course in Auckland today that will see them graduate as Customs officers in time for the busy summer season....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Dwindling Mallard population shows up ‘pest’ myth
    The pro hunting organisation Fish & Game is researching the causes of the decline of the mallard duck population, upset at the prospect of fewer ducks to kill....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Support for Democratic Rights in Hong Kong
    New Zealanders in Auckland will gather on Wednesday to support the rights for universal suffrage in Hong Kong....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Campbell Live Exclusive Interview with David Cunliffe
    David Cunliffe resigned as leader of the Labour party on Saturday; but he still wants the top job....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Action needed on cycling safety
    “Clearly we aren't doing enough to protect the 1.5 million New Zealanders who ride bikes,” said Mr Morgan....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • World Rivers Day Passes Without A Whimper
    Sunday 28 September was World Rivers Day to celebrate clean, flowing rivers and caring about them. But a recreation-conservation advocacy the Council of Outdoor Recreation Associations of NZ (CORANZ) says the day seems to have slipped by without...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • The Kiwifruit Claim: Q&A
    1. Who is running The Kiwifruit Claim? The Kiwifruit Claim was founded by kiwifruit growers representing well in excess of 10% of the industry. 2. Why are you running this claim? The introduction of Psa into New Zealand had devastating...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Fed Farmers Need to Be Weaned
    The Taxpayers’ Union is calling on Federated Farmers to make a firm commitment to reject any future Government funding, after it was revealed that the lobby group had received over $200,000 of payments in recent years....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Children paying the price for charter school stitch up
    New Zealand children will be paying a high price for a one-seat deal between ACT and National, with an expansion of the beleaguered charter school system says education union NZEI Te Riu Roa....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Hikoi From North Reaches Oil Conference Tomorrow
    Today: The Hikoi opposing Statoil plans for seismic testing and deep sea oil drilling has marched through Dargaville and later be welcomed to Piringatahi Marae, West Harbour,Tamaki Makaurau/Auckland....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Communities Still Count
    The efforts of many organisations to influence the electorate and the political parties they voted for in the lead up to the 2014 Election is over. The voting public has spoken and provided a strong endorsement to the centre-right National...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Eleven social enterprises get ready to take off
    Eleven teams from across the country will take part in the Launchpad, Ākina’s programme to get social enterprise ideas off the ground....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • An open letter to the Prime Minister
    in which Transparency International New Zealand asks the Prime Minister to ensure integrity underpins all work he leads "in the best interests of all New Zealanders"...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Paula Bennett ‘great work’ acknowledged – McVicar
    “Paula Bennett, as Minister of Social Development, has contributed significantly in lowering our crime rate and preventing further victims.” - McVicar...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Key’s Restraint in Propping up ACT Welcomed
    The Taxpayers’ Union is welcoming the announcement that ACT MP David Seymour will not be appointed as a Minister....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Only Concession is from the Taxpayer
    Responding to the confidence and supply agreement reached between John Key and Peter Dunne’s United Future Party, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • A Tent for Any Tenant
    AUT students and Salvation Army Manukau Community Ministries team up to raise awareness, as South Auckland’s housing situation moves from crisis to collapse...
    Scoop politics | 28-09
  • Cycle Safety Panel Draft Report Seeks Comments
    The Cycle Safety Panel Draft Report and Recommendations was published on 25th September 2014 and the panel are inviting comments. Lucinda Rees from NZ School Speeds, the organisation campaigning for consistent speed limits outside schools, is encouraged...
    Scoop politics | 28-09
  • Labour’s Review – Terms of Reference Agreed
    Labour's Review - Terms of Reference Agreed Following a meeting of its ruling New Zealand Council yesterday, Labour has released the terms of reference for the comprehensive review initiated following its 2014 election result. The review will comprise three...
    Scoop politics | 28-09
  • The final countdown for Kiwi smokers
    There are just two days left until many smokers stubb out their cigarettes for the last time and embark on Stoptober – New Zealand’s first national quit-smoking month....
    Scoop politics | 28-09
  • “In A Democracy People Win And People Lose”
    “In A Democracy People Win And People Lose” – Chris Hipkins Labour Senior Whip I would say to all of the caucus and all of the members let's actually hear the arguments from the people who want to be leader,...
    Scoop politics | 28-09
  • Campaign to make Murder of Unborn ”Safe and Legal”
    The IPPF have launched an international campaign through its 161 affiliates including the New Zealand Family Planning Association [NZFPA] to make the murder of the unborn safe and legal and accepted as a human right. This is an acceleration of...
    Scoop politics | 28-09
  • Grant Robertson Labour leader hopeful on TVNZ Q+A
    “Look I think what we need to be is relevant, clear and consistent with New Zealanders about the Labour Party's values,” said Labour leader hopeful Grant Robertson on TVNZ’s Q+A programme....
    Scoop politics | 28-09
  • Labour Needs to Get House in Order Before Deciding Leader
    Ex Labour party leader and possible repeat contender David Shearer says the Labour Party is going about the post-election period in the wrong way....
    Scoop politics | 28-09
  • Hate merchants at it again with smear tactics
    “It’s disappointing to see the hate merchants at it again with yet another attempt to smear and silence a health professional who’s doing research they disagree with,” says Ian Powell, Executive Director of the Association of Salaried Medical Specialists...
    Scoop politics | 28-09
  • Women’s group heartened by response to promo girls
    The National Council of Women of New Zealand is heartened by the strong response to the inappropriate use of bikini-clad girls at a technology expo....
    Scoop politics | 27-09
  • Owen interviews Jim Anderton, Helen Kelly and Selwyn Pellet
    Lisa Owen interviews Jim Anderton, Helen Kelly and Selwyn Pellet ___________________________________________ The Nation on TV3, 9.30am Saturdays and 10am Sundays. Check us out online , on Facebook or on Twitter . Tell us what you think at thenation@mediaworks.co.nz or text...
    Scoop politics | 27-09
  • Owen interviews Mark Boyd, Jonathan Milne and John Minto
    Lisa Owen interviews Mark Boyd, Jonathan Milne and John Minto ___________________________________________ The Nation on TV3, 9.30am Saturdays and 10am Sundays. Check us out online , on Facebook or on Twitter . Tell us what you think at thenation@mediaworks.co.nz or text...
    Scoop politics | 27-09
  • Prime Time on Labour
    Mike Smith - former General Secretary of the NZ Labour Party Jim McAloon, Assoc Prof, Victoria University of Wellington History Department (currently writing official history of the Labour Party) Rob Salmond, consultant to Labour Leader's office and...
    Scoop politics | 27-09
  • Korero Mai Ki Ahau – Saturday 27 & Sunday 28 September 2014
    Saturday 27 September 2014 | One million people voted for National in last week’s election. Another million didn’t vote at all. In Kia Korero Mai this week, Eru Morgan talks to political commentator Henare Kingi about the figures and what...
    Scoop politics | 26-09
  • On The Nation this weekend: Labour, National, The Media
    This weekend on The Nation… Labour’s had its worst election result in 92 years, so what happens next? We’ll talk to former Labour president Jim Anderton, CTU president Helen Kelly, and tech entrepreneur and past donor Selwyn Pellett about the...
    Scoop politics | 26-09
  • Red Cross, Pacific leaders prepare for cyclone season
    The New Zealand Red Cross Pacific Advisory Group, met for the first time this week, to develop a disaster response plan for the upcoming Pacific cyclone season, which is forecast to be severe....
    Scoop politics | 26-09
  • Teachers support PM’s call for solutions to child poverty
    NZEI Te Riu Roa is pleased to hear that the Prime Minister is calling for new ideas to address child poverty....
    Scoop politics | 26-09
  • First batch of household protection kits arrives in Liberia
    Kits containing protective gear will equip a network of community-based Ebola care centres nationwide...
    Scoop politics | 26-09
  • Dr Paul Hutchison praised for work to reduce child poverty
    The Association of Salaried Medical Specialists (ASMS) has thanked retiring National MP Dr Paul Hutchison for his work to reduce child poverty....
    Scoop politics | 26-09
  • Bag snatch hero deserves a medal – McVicar
    The Justice Spokesman for the Conservative Party, Garth McVicar, is calling for the woman known as the bag-snatch hero to be awarded a medal for bravery....
    Scoop politics | 26-09
  • Police Remembrance Day
    This week, Police staff and others have been wearing the distinctive huia feather-shaped Police Remembrance Pin as they reflect on those who have lost their lives in service to the society they swore to protect. Police Remembrance Day falls on...
    Scoop politics | 26-09
  • Affordable Auckland Attacks Creeping Apartheid
    Affordable Auckland Leader Stephen Berry is disturbed by developments increasing the number of local body regions choosing racially based representation. The Waikato and Bay of Plenty Regional Councils already have Maori wards, while New Plymouth...
    Scoop politics | 26-09
  • Dairy Strategy Proving to be a Disaster
    The intensification of the dairy industry is proving to be a disaster, says SAFE. This comes after the forecast 2015 milk price payout was cut 12% by Fonterra this week. “Last year, the government effectively gave the green light for...
    Scoop politics | 26-09
  • Where Next for the Left?
    26 September 2014 A discussion of the post-election prospects for radicals, facilitated by Fightback. 6pm | Monday 28th September | 19 Tory St [ Facebook event ]...
    Scoop politics | 26-09
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