Phil O’Reilly – dumb enough to fail

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1. mouse 1

   29 December 2009 at 10:13 pm

   Phil is a

   sad

   Chap… He has no kid(s)…He has no vision of their future or their inheritance.

   Please try to understand him for what he is and where he is at…

   He’s know’s only how to speak ‘Balderdash’… and I suspect his conscience bothers him not… sad Chap.
   • Quoth the Raven 1.1

     30 December 2009 at 7:41 pm

     He has no kid(s) He has no vision of their future or their inheritance.

     And what does that matter? I’m seem to recall the same lame criticism of Helen Clark from the right. Conservatives it seems are abound on both sides.
     • mickysavage 1.1.1

       30 December 2009 at 8:11 pm

       The difference is that Helen did act as if she had kids and cared for their future but O’Reilly and a few others do not even think of the future when they talk. There is a very good Indian saying that we do not inherit the environment from our parents, we borrow it from our grandchildren.
       • Quoth the Raven 1.1.1.1

         30 December 2009 at 8:25 pm

         micky – So you have to have children or act as if you do to care about the environment. You can’t just care it about because you care for your fellow man. I believe Helen Clark did what she did, as much as I may disagree with things that she did, because she thought they were right. Face it you’re just shilling for a conservative attitude.
         • mickysavage 1.1.1.1.1

           30 December 2009 at 8:59 pm

           Not at all.

           If you care about the environment you will not want to damage it.

           The most powerful metaphor for doing this is agreeing to pass on to the generation after next an environment that is in the same shape as now.

           Theoretically you do not need to have grandkids. But it very eloquently states what is required.

           I do not have grandkids but just in case I do in the future I want them to have the same sort of world to live in that I live in now.
           • Quoth the Raven 1.1.1.1.1.1

             30 December 2009 at 11:30 pm

             If you care about the environment you will not want to damage it.

             The most powerful metaphor for doing this is agreeing to pass on to the generation after next an environment that is in the same shape as now.

             Right I agree, but we don’t need to jump from that to whether or not one is a breeder.

             Theoretically you do not need to have grandkids. But it very eloquently states what is required.

             I think it is needless. If you want to talk theoretically, theoretically it’s less a burden on the environment if you don’t breed.

             I do not have grandkids but just in case I do in the future I want them to have the same sort of world to live in that I live in now.

             You ought to want an even better world 🙂
             • lprent …

               30 December 2009 at 11:43 pm

               I don’t have any kids (or grandkids) – which explains why I can run this blog. But I sure care. Being an childless uncle or aunt (or cousin) means that you get hauled in whenever there is a need. You wind up with baby-sitting, tutoring, and helping the teens when they wind up over-indulging.

               Family goes somewhat beyond being a ‘breeder’. I always found that ‘childless’ meme from the right about Helen pretty damn ridiculous bearing in mind that way that she acts with her nephews and nieces. Just another short-sighted view.
2. Robert Winter 2

   29 December 2009 at 10:27 pm

   Mr O’Reilly has jumped on the Brownlee/Smith band wagon bigtime. The distinction that he makes between ‘extremism’ (environmentalists and their ilk) and ‘holism’ (right-thinking, decent chaps who understand the need of business) is pro-government spin in spades. However, not all businesses toe this line. Mr O’Reilly would have been more sensible to refrain from comments like this.
3. prism 3

   30 December 2009 at 10:37 am

   Really good points lprent says it all.
   I remember that one idea for colonists establishing what legal entity NZ might have was to define certain areas as factory areas, which would no doubt have all the British habits, procedures and laws and laissez faire attitudes that Britain was just coming out of because of determined efforts by activists. Slavery too was I think finally abolished as a practice only in 1838 and NZ was just getting started then.
   The type of thinking that some of those callous business men had still seems to flourish today and we have to be aware of the dangers of their gaining control over all we have built in our society, and have established in our land. It will be dismantled if there is money in it for them. The cold, calculating, greedy man and woman is present in every society, white or black, waiting to exploit it and further, to squeeze it dry.
4. Bill 4

   30 December 2009 at 10:38 am

   Phil ain’t being any more dumb than what is required when following the party line.

   http://www.thestandard.org.nz/national-will-lose-the-next-election/#comment-171785

   I guess we’ll be hearing more of this kind of thing and in the name of pragmatism any attempt to live up to the image of clean and green will be dumped ( at sea of course….out of sight/mind) allowing NZ Inc to shit itself in style.
5. prism 5

   30 December 2009 at 10:54 am

   BTW on back of recent NZ King Salmon smoked fish purchase, the environment comes top in description. “From the pure, crystal clear water of New Zealand’s Marlborough Sounds comes the naturally delicious Regal Marlborough Salmon.” Our image of fresh and pure and keeping the reality as close to it helps our exports, our perception by the world in general – people buy our stuff, come here to live and work and look around because of it.
   At the bottom of the world we need to have a drawcard, get money in from other things than cow fat, much as I like butter etc.
6. randal 6

   30 December 2009 at 1:36 pm

   capcha:blame.
   so why doesnt phil tell us how many profitable businesses were established last year and how many he expects to get going this year.
   lets have some facts instead of this airy fairy kiwi bluff and bluster that ultimately means nothing at all.
7. chris 7

   30 December 2009 at 1:45 pm

   can someone tell me what profitable businesses phil oreilly and roger kerr are responsible for?
8. randal 8

   30 December 2009 at 1:58 pm

   all the ones they managed to steal off the state.
9. prism 9

   30 December 2009 at 2:01 pm

   Roger and Phil are in the service sector, the giving advice sector, like financial, economic, business. The advice on how to run the government vehicle better, given from the back seat of their limo while the chauffeur handles the driving and looks after the dirty bits under the bonnet.
   Or perhaps to show they are flexible – from their 4Wd towering above the roadway, or their repro Spitfire, or their natty sports car with the top down, or their grunty Mercedes (new of course), or their nostalgic old Bentley which Dad used to transport sheep in across the farm.
10. Jum 10

    30 December 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Now that they’re growing beef in barns and the supermarkets can’t tell me if their meat is or it isn’t, meat is now off my shopping list once our homegrown beef is eaten.

    No KFC chicken, no McDonalds Angus beef or chicken burgers, no more instant meals. Could be good for the country’s health; not so good for the fast food animal cruelty joints, if enough New Zealanders actually give a damn about where their country is going. Has anybody thought to ask our youth – the people who have to pay for O’Reilly’s greed in the future when international judgment goes against our exports – what they think is the right thing to do.
11. mouse 11

    31 December 2009 at 6:36 am

    Quoth the raven – Gee… never thought of myself as being either Conservative, or Non conservative for that matter…
    I do however identify with the Clean and Green label, though… even if that means some personal sacrifice in changing some of my own behaviors to make the Halo fit… and it may never fit, but as an inspirational goal… I shall keep reaching for it.
    Phil is lobbyist for a section of the Business Community who is advocating re-branding our national inspirational identity so that his cohorts can carry on defiling NZ Inc without being called to account by those who do identify as being Clean and Green.
    Phil’s section of the business community would do better accepting some personal responsibility for positive change… rather than attempting to sweep their failings under the carpet.
12. economic growth 12

    6 January 2010 at 8:10 am

    response to Phil’s stupid article:

    Environment

    Dave Feickert: We need to do more to protect clean and green brand

    NZ should be in the vanguard of green industry, says Dave Feickert.
    We have a beautiful country and many in the Northern Hemisphere know this.

    The critical issue for the future of New Zealand’s economic performance is the survival of its clean and green brand….http://www.nzherald.co.nz/environment/news/article.cfm?c_id=39&objectid=10618367&pnum=0
13. Tony Everitt 13

    10 January 2010 at 8:06 pm

    The vast majority of the world`s people who know something about New Zealand will happily acknowledge us as a Clean & Green leader. That perception (and emerging brand) is the single most valuable asset our country has. See also http://www.greenbranz.org

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