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Polity: The Greens’ draft list

Written By: - Date published: 12:37 pm, March 17th, 2014 - 107 comments
Categories: election 2014, greens, Politics - Tags: ,

polity_square_for_lynnRob Salmond at Polity looks at the draft Green party list.

The Greens have released their draft party list today, in advance of a party member STV vote. The top 20 is:

1 Turei, Metiria
2 Norman, Russel
3 Hague, Kevin
4 Sage, Eugenie
5 Delahunty, Catherine
6 Hughes, Gareth
7 Graham, Kennedy
8 Genter, Julie Anne
9 Logie, Jan
10 Shaw, James
11 Walker, Holly
12 Clendon, Dave
13 Roche, Denise
14 Mathers, Mojo
15 Davidson, Marama
16 Browning, Steffan
17 Coates, Barry
18 Hart, John
19 McDonald, Jack
20 Leckinger, Richard

The big movers upwards are Julie Anne Genter (up 5 from 2011), James Shaw (up 5), and Marama Davidson (new). The rest of the list rankings are fairly conservative.

At least one, and really two, of those big moves show a desire by the Greens’ central team to present a list more palatable to business than in the past. The real question now is whether the Greens’ members will agree. Steffan Browning, for example, has been poorly ranked in the draft list before. But he has a strong vein of member support, that jumped him up six spots from 16th to 10th in the 2011 exercise.

James Shaw in particular will be nervously waiting the results of the member vote, due back around the start of May.

107 comments on “Polity: The Greens’ draft list”

  1. fambo 1

    “At least one, and really two, of those big moves show a desire by the Greens’ central team to present a list more palatable to business than in the past.”

    Actually, there’s is no such thing as a “central team” determining the list rankings. All the branches make up their own preferred list (based on the wishes of their branch members) with all the branches’ choices aggregated to create a final list which every Green Party member can then vote for in their preferred order. Their choices are then aggregated again to arrive at the final list. So it’s very hard for personalities within the party to influence the final list.
    That said, the guts of your points do have a certain amount of truth to them. One of the qualities that has made James Shaw attractive is that he does have a good relationship with business. He may fall down the final list however, as those qualities may not be as well recognised and appreciated by the rank and file members as by those who participated at the branch level.
    I for one think it is vitally important that the Greens broaden their scope by having more MPs from right across the spectrum of society and I am sure many other members feel the same way. I think the Greens in general are very open to having a broader range of people both in membership and its MPs. It is a simply a case of people stepping up and becoming part of the party. The party would love to have more farmers and business people join, for instance.

    • Stephanie Rodgers 1.1

      +1 to the first part of your comment. The Greens’ media release makes it clear that this is a list voted on by candidates and delegates at their conference:
      http://www.voxy.co.nz/politics/greens-announce-initial-party-list/5/184752

      Of course, the wider membership may have differences of opinion on it, but that’s why they put it to a membership vote.

      I think Genter’s rise is just as likely due to her success as transport spokesperson as any perceived ‘business-friendliness’.

    • Ant 1.2

      Isn’t there a candidate selection committee who vet candidates before it even gets to that point. They also control admission to a candidate pool which also seems to be able to be influenced by input by the Green’s campaign manager.

      You’d think they can very much shape the list by admission and omission just like all other parties.

  2. Tamati 2

    I see Bomber has already labelled the list ‘Gerrymandered’. He should probably stick to four letter words, rather than trying to use complex political terms he doesn’t understand.

    • McFlock 2.1

      irregardless of the upcoming (even eminent) election, the pacific criticizing of Bomber for his using of sapphisticated wordiage belittlises you. :)

      • Tamati 2.1.1

        A while back he started going on about Saltwater Economics, without the slightest idea what he was talking about. Embarrassing!

      • Tamati 2.1.2

        IMO he’s more of a hindrance to the left than a help. He should stick to muck raking on the right rather bashing his own team.

        • McFlock 2.1.2.1

          He’s a nextgen Trotter – a bombast who hypes his withered left-wing cred.

          More machine now, than man – twisted and bloody boring.

        • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 2.1.2.2

          @ Tamati,

          Where has Bomber labelled the list ‘Gerrymandered’?

          For someone objecting to bashing one’s own team – you appear to be doing a very good job of it yourself – if a left-wing government is what you are aiming for.

          Bradbury has been very instrumental in setting up The Daily Blog – which along with this site – allows for more information and discussion of left wing issues and real issues than our mainstream media permits – this allows for more chance of more people making an informed vote than before The Daily Blog was set up – for this fact alone I find accusations that Bradbury is ‘more of a hindrance than a help’ entirely without foundation.

          • Tamati 2.1.2.2.1

            He sent off a tweet this morning.

            Bomber isn’t a member of my team. He won’t be near any left wing government anytime soon.

            • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 2.1.2.2.1.1

              Thanks I’ll check it.

              You ignore the point I make. He has allowed for a huge amount more discussion on leftwing issue and information re this current bunch of incompetents being available to the public – you may not like his style – nor agree with everything he says – however I do not think you can assert him as a hindrance toward a left wing government forming – quite the opposite is true – he has created something that makes a left wing government being voted in far more likely to occur.

              • Tamati

                On that point he may not have been specifically referring to the Greens party list. All he said was “Gerrymandered Party list” with no reference to the party. It was only a few minutes after the Greens released their list though.

              • Tamati

                On your second point, I don’t think he’s done much for the left movement. If anything he’s demonised moderates in the Labour party and presents politics as an actual battle, rather than a battle of ideas. This may be red meat to his followers, but it only isolates himself from moderate swing voters. As a result he gets very little mainstream media coverage.

                The only really effective left blog at the moment is Auckland Transport Blog. Rather than mindless mudslinging, they present a rational argument with an alternative vision for the future. The Standard is pretty good, but is again, preaching to the converted.

                • Ant

                  Bit of a stretch describing Transportblog as ‘left’.

                  • Ad

                    Seriously? Total car-haters.

                    • Ant

                      Efficiency in transport planning is fairly agnostic. Their views are technocratic in nature not really left/right.

                    • Ad

                      Tamati’s point that TransportBlog present excellent cases for their argument is correct. But their policy sympathies go far beyond the merely technocratic. They are pro-city, but they are pro- a very specific kind of city. In New Zealand only Labour and the Greens even think about imagining in this space. They have no friends in Act or National caucuses.

                  • Tamati

                    It’s pretty clearly a left leaning blog.

              • Populuxe1

                No he doesn’t. He generally only promotes the party that’s hired him at the time and if anyone disagrees with him (easy enough to do because he quite often has no idea what he’s talking about or wilfully distorts facts) they get shouted down or deleted. The man is an arsehat.

          • Disraeli Gladstone 2.1.2.2.2

            I don’t know if I would call Bomber a hindrance. He’s just, in my opinion, laughably incompetent. He makes outlandish claims that never come true (Matt McCarten is the MP for Mana, anyone?) and has limited understanding of the law (give people free internet for votes!).

            His posts are poorly written and full of simple mistakes and are often put together from several of his tweets. A lot of the time is spent creating poorly photoshopped, unfunny “memes”.

            When ColeyTangerina decided she no longer wanted to write for The Daily Blog, Bomber gave away her real life identity out of revenge. He pleads for unity on the left and then often drops in snide remarks about other left-wing bloggers (Danyl McLauchlan, Imperator Fish, QoT).

            He posted an anti-semitic image on The Daily Blog. It was an honest mistake. Instead of just saying so, he lashed out at everyone who pointed it out, censored the comments and so on until he eventually realised he should’ve apologised.

            He made a mistake on one of his posts about Hone Harawira and his trip to South Africa. I pointed it out to him in the comments section. He deleted my comment and then amended his post. He wrote about the Internet Party while not declaring he was involved (no matter how briefly) in it.

            He wants to be important and famous. He worked for Mana and then when that ship didn’t set sail, went off to Kim Dotcom with half-baked policy ideas. The Internet Party wouldn’t exactly be a left-wing utopia, either. He wants to be known. He doesn’t want to help.

            Fuck it, Bomber is a hindrance and the left would be far better served if someone like Jessie Hume or Frank Macskasy went and held a virtual coup on The Daily Blog.

            • Papa Tuanuku 2.1.2.2.2.1

              mY HUNCH is that bomber isn’t too schooled on reflection and agency. Reflection – the ability to see where mistakes are made and to correct them, or to look around at what words and to do that, and agency: u dont just ID the prob, u suggest an action or solution. sure he talks about wide policy platforms, but as a reader i want to be presented with an idea that im joining a million others, and to be given ideas about where to go to bring change.

            • Murray Olsen 2.1.2.2.2.2

              A good précis of Bumbler there, DG. I think of him as an angry semi-literate peacock that is missing its tail feathers. He does some things very well but always seems to let the fact that he has the emotional maturity of an angst ridden teenager get in the way. If he made it less about him, he’d be far more useful.

              I hadn’t heard about Coley Tangerina. That absolutely sucks.

              • Tamati

                He’s basically the Whale Oil of the left, without the page views and the media scoops.

            • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 2.1.2.2.2.3

              @ Disreali,

              Whilst you list a major negative that Bomber has managed re Coley Tangerine (and a propensity for putdowns of his own team) – you also manage some putdowns that are either a matter of opinion (and a warped ones too) or simply not negatives.

              Perhaps you sign up to the NZ culture of insularism: not speaking up or standing up to be counted, not rocking the boat, culture of the lowest common denominator and apathy – judging by your comment you do -if not, you have to admit that Bradbury rails against such peer pressure and is doing his bit (and more) to shift such apathy.

              Because I do not sign up to the negative aspects of this country’s culture I find Bradbury’s writing refreshing – he cuts through crap (another heresy) I don’t agree with all he says yet I disagree with you thoroughly -I think he gets a lot correct.

              His style is a great relief to the watered down mediocrity I have come to expect from every main stream source and believe that this aspect of his expression would be particularly appealing to younger people who are more likely to appreciate blunt opinion and more likely to view ‘carefully phrased’ writing for the self censored passionless-more-fearful-of-being-shot-down-in-flames-like-you-have-just-done-than-bothered-about-getting-a-point-across that it is.

              I am glad that I can go to one place and read the many writers listed here who write articles on the Daily Blog and fairly much have Bradbury to thank for that.

              Bradbury is in the public eye – his errors are there for all to see – I am glad that his passion for getting information across wins over any concern about any criticisms small-minded armchair critics hold toward him for speaking out strongly on things that matter in this country and encouraging others to do the same.

              • Disraeli Gladstone

                I guess it’s a lot to do with intention. The Daily Blog is a useful site (with many, many flaws) but there’s not a bone in my body that thinks Bomber did that out of selflessness. He did that because he wasn’t get enough page views at Tumeke for his ego. And unfortunately, he manages TDB in that manner. Which means that the great writers get lost in pages of his rubbish. Or he protects his friends over writers who may have the far stronger point (Trotter and Tangerina).

                Also, I find it hard that anyone views Bomber’s -writing- as “refreshing”. Maybe his style and his political positioning, sure. But his actual writing is quite bad. Like I said, it suffers from technical errors. Some people say that’s not a problem. And I want to agree with you. If we limit political discourse to people who can only type Oxford English then we’re doing the wrong thing and losing important voices. Heck, I’m not always right on these things (but editing internet comments =/= editing internet articles). But for crying out loud, would it kill him just to read up a little on the usage of the comma?! I also find his writing very condescending. His use of “wahine” is just cringe-worthy.

                There’s also this fallacy that Bomber is popular with the younger generation which I’ve seen nothing to suggest he is. I won’t get into which, where and why I’m there, but at one university campus he’s treated as a bit of a political joke by the politically savvy students who know about the rise of the politics in blogs. I think this comes back to the “memes”. He thinks he’s hip and cool (the fact that I’m using hip shows that I cannot also not talk on the subject of being cool) but he’s just forcing it. I don’t think he speaks to young people. He speaks to a very small sub-section of political people.

                Also, I’d argue that The Daily Blog is actually very insular. I admire the Standard’s moderating policy. I don’t think it’s any surprise to say I’m not a dyed-in-the-wool leftist. I’m a Third Way, New Labour, perpetual disappointment at Blair and Clinton for not getting it right, type of person. But you guys allow me to comment here and have good discussion, let me state my opinion and sometimes my opinion changes from these discussions.

                The Daily Blog heavily censors comments. I’ve had comments deleted by TDB because I stated, without an ounce of personal abuse, that I disagreed with Bomber’s “there’s no centrist voters because United Future is the proof”. Worst still, Bomber actually made a post to my first comment, counter-arguing. And then refused to let my reply through moderation. So essentially it makes him look good.

                • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill)

                  O.k you are now assessing his intention – that is pretty impressive of you – to know what his intentions are.

                  It is plain to see, having followed some of his writings on Tumeke prior to setting up the Daily Blog, that Bradbury was entirely frustrated by the lack of information in the mainstream media and how this is effecting the election results. If personal ambition is in existence that is not a crime and it is only part of the equation and I think you really are grasping at straws to put forward that as the sole reason.

                  It was very clear that I was talking about his style and not his ability to write English with perfect grammar – what are your priorities here ? Content or form?

                  Citing ‘politically savvy students’ opinions as a justification that his writings do not appeal to all young people is hardly conclusive. Although I do concede it may not be solely a younger generation that finds his ‘cutting the crap style’ refreshing – I am aware of [rather well educated] people 20 years older than me that consider him as having an above average understanding of what is really going on in our society and beyond and consider his being banned from the radio as yet another clear attempt at ensuring NZers are not well informed.

                  This conversation has cleared one thing up though – that it matters more to those responding negatively re Bradbury that someone has good social skills than what they do or promote. This is enlightening and helps me understand how Key keeps getting positive polling – it doesn’t matter what he says or promotes – such as selling out NZ interests left, right and centre, the main thing is that he relates well to people and ‘looks like a great guy to have a beer with’.

                  Thanks for the insight – I’ve had a great deal of trouble understanding why people would vote for a complete sell-out and now I understand; it is all about prioritising form over content.

            • QoT 2.1.2.2.2.4

              “drops in snide remarks” is putting it a bit bloody diplomatically, DG. I’m no fucking Miss Manners myself, but it’s hilarious how Bomber oscillates between whinging about “unity” and then savaging every single person who doesn’t support his pet crusades – and stabbing them in the back whenever possible.

              I just thank fuck he doesn’t know who I am, because I am absolutely certain he’d have outed me as he did Coley.

              blue leopard: yeah, there are awesome writers at TDB. It’s just a fucking pity you have to wade waist-deep through hundreds of posts by boring white dudes to get to them.

              • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill)

                Yes, he does oscillate in that way and it was hideous what he did to Coley :(

              • Disraeli Gladstone

                I edited my original post which had words like “vindictive” and “zero journalistic integrity” but then thought that just made me seem too shrill!

          • Penny Bright 2.1.2.2.3

            Oh really?

            Then how come the PHONY Martyn Bradbury banned me from making any comments on HIS ‘Daily Blog’ after I refused to bow to his attempted bullying and continued to stand as an Independent candidate in the 2013 Auckland Mayoral campaign?

            The following comments are from facebook correspondence between myself and Martyn Bradbury – read it for yourself:

            Martyn Bradbury 9:05pm Apr 17
            If you run against Minto we have nothing to speak about ever again Penny – to run against Minto says you have an ego that is out of control and only focused on your own self-agrandment. I am bitterly disappointed by your selfishness Penny. Consider my door closed to you

            Whatever Martyn. Your ‘door’ was never really ‘open’ to me anyway, as far as I am concerned. When was the last time you gave me the opportunity to raise issues to do with corruption, the lack of transparency, the way the 1% run the Auckland $upercity on your show? errr…… NEVER? How is my trying to ‘clip the wings’ of the 1% in whose interests the Auckland region (and NZ) is run ‘egotistical’? You can stick your ‘boys’ club bullying’ where the sun don’t shine Martyn. Not impressed. Penny Bright 2013 Auckland Mayoral candidate.

            Martyn Bradbury 10:36pm Apr 17
            bullying Penny? That’s rich coming from you. Running against Minto is the worst thing you can do – v disappointed in your betrayal of solidarity

            Martyn – you are so FULL OF SHIT.

            As I first put my ‘hat into the Auckland Mayoral ring’ – I could argue that John Minto is standing against me?

            However – unlike you – I am consistent in my position.

            I think it’s good that John is standing – he can raise the anti-poverty issues that Mana are campaigning on, and this will help raise both his and Mana’s profile for the 2014 General Election.

            I will continue to expose the $upercity as a ‘corrupt corporate coup’ as I did in the 2010 campaign, but now with the benefit of far more FACTS and EVIDENCE (as outlined in my legal documents that were filed in the High Court as part of the Occupy Auckland Appeal) which prove how Auckland Council works in the interests of the 1%.

            Personally Martyn, I prefer to work with good people, with good hearts, brains, guts and a basic understanding of the principles of fair play and natural justice.

            Not interested in working with idiots, sheep, amateurs, saboteurs or provocateurs.

            I’m targeting the 1%.

            You appear to be targeting me Martyn.

            So – whose side are YOU on?

            ‘Solidarity’ – with whom?

            Penny Bright

            2013 Auckland Mayoral Candidate

            • Tamati 2.1.2.2.3.1

              That hardly surprises me. It just further underlines the fact he is an egotistical cunt.

            • blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 2.1.2.2.3.2

              That is odd, I am sure it was from The Daily Blog that I was made aware you were standing.

              Do you consider that because you had a disagreement with him that everything else that he does doesn’t stand for anything? – that he is ‘a hinderance to the left’ that his interaction with you and others will cause less chance for a leftwing government getting in despite his part in the existence of The Daily Blog?

              It is clear that he has had a fair few problems relating decently with quite a few people – this would be unpleasant to experience – and it would be better if he was perfect – however is it possible for you and others to get things in perspective and look at the bigger picture for a moment?

              n.b It may sound strange, yet I was disappointed that so many people with decent ideas were standing for the Auckland mayoralty – this clearly splits the vote of those that would vote for such ideas – one would hope that there was some sort of co-operative strategy involved in such a case – I am guessing when those from the left learn the advantages of cooperating is when such views will become more and better represented, perhaps that is where Martyn was coming from – although it does sound heavy handed on his part.

              • Populuxe1

                Bombast doesn’t need to be perfect, he just needs to be consistent, more reasoned, and less of a giant bullying arsebramble.

            • One Anonymous Bloke 2.1.2.2.3.3

              Off with his head!

            • Disraeli Gladstone 2.1.2.2.3.4

              “says you have an ego that is out of control and only focused on your own self-agrandment.”

              This is my new favourite quote.

              I don’t think there’s ever been a greater lack of self-awareness.

  3. George D 3

    It’s a reasonable hypothesis, but fortunately it’s not true.

    If it were, why keep Delahunty (the most radical woman in Parliament) at number five? Why push Davidson to an electable spot, and put relatively-conservative Browning behind her?

    The truth is much simpler. Shaw is both extremely competent and extremely well-liked.

    • Tamati 3.1

      They’re scared of Browning because he has a tendency to say rather stupid things. He represents the old school hippies greens, anti-GE ,anti-Vaccination, anti-Fluoride, anti-Monsanto etc. Popular with the members, but potentially embarrassing for a government.

      • Chooky 3.1.1

        @ Tamati….disagree….Steffan Browning would be an asset to any Left government. He is very intelligent and hard working. He is also quite moderate and an extremely good listener and coordinator. He gets on very well with farmers…because he was one himself. One of his sons has a PhD in agri- science I think.

        I say this because I have on occasion been co-opted by him and co-ordinated by him to do work for the Greens and I am not a member of the Greens…lol…where is the wild Chooky Party?… or Weka Party?….I want to join

        • Tamati 3.1.1.1

          He may be intelligent and well educated but he represents the agrarian-organic faction of the party. Flick through his posts on Frog Blog and you’ll see he spends most of time bashing Monsanto and GE. The Greens want to move on from these issues, it may have got them votes in 2002 but it’s not a good look in a modern government.

          • Chooky 3.1.1.1.1

            @ Tamati…au contraire….he is completely in sync with where young Europeans are at , which is agrarian -organic….this is surely where modern govts should be at !….

            uncontaminated food * clean rivers * water conservation *environmental protection * soil protection and soil health

            multi-national, industrialised farming, spray poisoned food , depleted soils , dead bees, depleted and polluted rivers and aquifers …is so yesterday… and passe …and short term

            …we should be aiming at high end markets where the terroir is valued not thrashed and trashed

            • Tamati 3.1.1.1.1.1

              He basically rabbles on about GE scaremongering and Monsanto conspiracy theories, whilst ignoring objective science.

              Clean rivers and water conservation aren’t part of his portfolios.

              We hardly sell any food to Europe anyway.

              • McFlock

                just fyi, it seems to me that you guys are arguing past each other.

                Ignoring the relative framing, you guys seem to have the same policy description of Browning, but disagree as to whether he’s liable to ShaneJones it every so often.

                FWIW, I can’t say I’d ever heard of the dude before today.

                • Tamati

                  Yeah I can’t be bothered engaging in a GE debate. Been there done that.

                  The Greens also know that this guy is yesterday’s man with yesterday’s ideas. They try their best to keep him under wraps. Hence why you’ve never heard of him. At the moment all he’s doing is blocking young talent from moving up the ranks.

                  • Chooky

                    @ Tamati…you sound very threatened by him…he must be doing a good job

                    …btw he would fit very well into the Greens in France , Germany or Italy

                    • Tamati

                      Yeah I’d be pretty terrified if he was Minister of Agriculture or something. Not that I think all Greens are all that bad. Kevin Hague would be an excellent Minister of Health. Very smart, very informed in the issues.

                      Greens in Germany often form coalitions with the centre-right CDU. I’m not sure if many Green MP’s would be in favour of a similar arrangement here.

                • Chooky

                  McFlock fyi…he is the complete opposite of Shane Jones

              • Ergo Robertina

                ‘We hardly sell any food to Europe anyway.’
                Not the point. We compete with the Europeans as a food producer.

        • weka 3.1.1.2

          “where is the wild Chooky Party?… or Weka Party?….I want to join”

          Nah, what we really need is the Lemming Party, one with global reach :twisted:

    • toad 3.2

      +1

      Agreed, George. I support Shaw having a high position on that basis, even though I am generally considered to be on the left within the Greens.

      • lprent 3.2.1

        I support Shaw having a high position on that basis, even though I am generally considered to be on the left within the Greens.

        It is the same for me in Labour.

        While I’m usually to the right in many policies inside Labour, especially economic | defense | education | science, I’ve frequently been known to support candidates from the left purely because I think that they’re more competent or potentially competent. I figure that someone who is competent will be swayed towards dealing with reality when it inevitably conflicts with dogma or ideology. But someone who is incompetent and runs with a dogma and/or ideology will tend to stand/retreat to where they feel comfortable – usually to the detriment of us all.

        I know that changing your mind is what happens when you present right-wingers like myself with enough information to decide a different course of action is required than the one we feel comfortable with. That is why I oppose most mining in NZ (economically useless deposits), the TPP (economically destructive for the NZ economy), the way WINZ operates (inefficiently wasting resources on talkback obsessions), national standards (wasting resources of moronic testing), charter schools (destroying opportunity for all kids), voting Green (I despise the factions in the Labour caucus for choosing the wrong person because it is better for the faction in the short-term) etc etc. Some people may note a trend in how I judge things BTW.

        And I’ve seen it happen from the left to the centre as well. Most notably with Ms Clark.

        After all, when putting people on a list what you are doing is selecting the people you want to help govern this country for all of its citizens. Competence (or a potential for it) is the first criteria. After that you look at other attributes.

      • phillip ure 3.2.2

        “..I am generally considered to be on the left within the Greens..”

        wow..!..that’s pretty scary..!

        ..a reactionary like you is considered ‘left’..?

        ..whoar..!

        phillip ure..

  4. Disraeli Gladstone 4

    It would be great to have Genter, Shaw and Davidson all in high list positions so that they can become MPs. All very capable.

  5. The Real Matthew 5

    There is a real lack of ethnic diversity in that List.

    As a white person myself I’m disappointed at the lack of minority representation in the Party.

    The Green Party as a list party has every ability to provide a voice to ethnic minorities yet refuses to do so.

    Time for an ethnic quota?

    • McFlock 5.1

      maybe you should put forward a remit to that effect, being a member and all… /sarc

    • Papa Tuanuku 5.2

      I agree, nine Pākehā in the top 10.

      • BM 5.2.1

        Greens are a white middle class party.

        The only time you get any sort of ethnic diversity with the greens is when the cleaning crews turn up after their meetings.

        • felix 5.2.1.1

          That’s why BM votes for this diverse bunch with one brown face in the top 24.

          • karol 5.2.1.1.1

            2 or 3….. Parata, Bennett, Bridges.

            • BM 5.2.1.1.1.1

              Unless they’re wearing a flax skirt, poking out their tongues and bearing their buttocks they just don’t register as Maori with felix.

              • felix

                Yeah that must be it. :roll:

                Or it could be that I meant just what I wrote: “one brown face in the top 24″.

                Confusing, I know…

              • karol

                Don’t get too complacent, BM. The GP also have Jack MacDonald on their lit of 20 – and Maramar Davidson – that’s 3 Maori to 3 on the Nats’ list of 24.

                • toad

                  Metiria Turei, David Clendon, Denise Roche, Marama Davidson & Jack MacDonald all identify as Maori.

                  That’s 5 of the top 20 on the draft list.

            • felix 5.2.1.1.1.2

              Hi karol,

              I note that BM referred to ethnic diversity. I also note there is no use pointing this out to him, so I didn’t bother. ;)

              • The Real Matthew

                Ethnic diversity is not just looking at the ratio of Maori to White people.

                Our country is a multicultural country yet there appears to be no Pasifika or Asian representation.

                Comparing the Greens top 24 with Nationals top 24 is silly because we all know the Greens wont get 24 seats and National will get more than 24 seats.

                My understanding is National has approximately 9 Maori MP’s as well as MP’s from Pasifika and multiple Asian backgrounds.

                If National can do it why can’t the Green Party?

                • felix

                  I never said anything about maori. I was looking at white/other, as you suggest I should.
                  I never compared the greens top 24 to anything, I believe it was the top 10 that was under discussion at the time.

                  I compared that to the Nat’s top 24, which is
                  a) somewhere in the region of the type of ratio you recommend, and
                  b) the point at which the Nats stop numbering their list on the webpage I linked to, and I don’t have all day to count the number of shitheads in the National party.*

                  as Toad pointed out above, you’re fuckshit wrong anyway.

                  *I guess the web designer didn’t have all day either. Or maybe they stop numbering them at 24 because that’s where the darkies start to appear.

                  Who knows? Who cares? But if you’re going to put words in my mouth can you please make them more interesting ones? Thanks.

    • karol 5.3

      I’m hoping Maramar Davidson will get a higher position on the list after member votes.

      I thought the Greens started recruiting more Maori/Pacific candidates in the last year or so – maybe for electorate candidates? I’m wondering if it will take a while longer for their capabilities to become more known within the Green Party?

      • George D 5.3.1

        Turei, Clendon, Roche, Davidson, and MacDonald are all Maori. That’s five from twenty.

        Agree entirely about lacking representativeness on other spectrums, but that is a representation of the membership, which is a representation of the policy issues the Greens have made important. There is a Pasifika Greens, but it has lacked energy after a key person left to pursue other interests.

  6. Dan1 6

    Sorry to see Stefan Browning possibly demoted. Always speaks sense; he gives crediblity to Greens philosophy.

    • Chooky 6.1

      Dan 1…+100…. yes he is very measured and tolerant….and listens carefully to all sides before making up his mind…and then still keeps an open mind…like a true scientist

      • Tamati 6.1.1

        Like a true scientist … except he rambles on about GE and Monsanto conspiracy theories, despite overwhelming science.

        I’d be interested to hear his views on fluoridation and vaccination, does anyone have any links?

        Also interested in Catherine Delahunty views on these issues.

        • Chooky 6.1.1.1

          @ Tamati …obviously some countries are still concerned with this issue ….so NO …he is not “yesterday’s man with yesterday’s ideas”……

          France bans Monsanto GM maize ahead of sowing season

          http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/15/france-monsanto-idUSL6N0MC0BR20140315

          “Longstanding differences between EU countries resurfaced in February when they failed to agree on whether or not to approve another GM maize variety, Pioneer 1507, developed by DuPont and Dow Chemical, leaving the way open to the EU Commission to clear it for cultivation.

          France is trying to win support to overhaul the EU rules.”

          • Ergo Robertina 6.1.1.1.1

            +100 The EU’s GDP has overtaken that of the USA, and it is now the world’s biggest economy. So if it’s holding the line on GMO, that hardly constitutes ‘yesterday’s ideas’, which is just Tamati’s lame attempt to marginalise Steffan Browning. The Green Party needs at least one MP, preferably more, who is knowledgeable about this issue.

            • Tamati 6.1.1.1.1.1

              The E.U. has a larger GDP than the U.S. because they keep adding countries, not because they ban some G.E. crops.

              • Ergo Robertina

                Nope, that’s not the point. How it grew is not the issue – it is the world’s biggest economy. It is holding the line on GMO. This is an issue in play.
                Your claim that this is yesterday’s issue is quite simply wrong.

          • Tamati 6.1.1.1.2

            If the Greens really cared about this issue they would have Norman or Turei making speeches about it once in a while. It’s yesterday’s issue, even the Brits are lobbying the EU to stand down from their sanctimonious approach to Biotechnology.

            • Ergo Robertina 6.1.1.1.2.1

              Why do you say ‘even the Brits’? The British traditionally identify with the Americans (the special relationship etc), so it’s no surprise they would be soft on GMO.

        • Chooky 6.1.1.2

          @ Tamati…why are you interested in their fluoridation and vaccination views?.. ie why, given your context of criticism of Browning and the Greens , are you out to get Steffan Browning and Catherine Delahunty?

          ( you wouldnt be the man with the pie and the Penthouse in his briefcase would you?….trying to infiltrate and get evidence on the ground …..of shock /horror… subversion of state security by naughty Greens !…evidence you cant get through other interception methods( …you know, nudge , nudge,wink, wink,….GCSB, SIS?…naughty , naughty….)

          ….as far as I know the Greens don’t hold any particularly unusual views on fluoridation and vaccination…..no more so than members/voters of any other political party …..These are highly idiosyncratic, individual health subjects not connected directly with particular political parties in a democracy…(now under fascism it could be a different story)

          imo….How one feels about these health issues depends on how much one knows or is/has been affected by them ..eg similarly with mercury fillings , aspartame in diet fizzy drinks etc

          ……Do you want to go around questioning all the mummies , doctors , virologists etc ….who have questions about blanket fluoridation and vaccination of populations…and find out what political parties they belong to?….or are you just trying to make a case against the Greens?

          • alwyn 6.1.1.2.1

            My goodness Chooky, you must be getting on a bit if you remember that old story about the SIS agent and his copy of Penthouse. That must have been about 35 years ago?

            I’m sure they would be much more up to date now. They would probably emulate Shane Jones and get their porn off the internet on tax-payer supplied smart phones these days.

          • Tamati 6.1.1.2.2

            I just want to know where they stand on these issues. No hidden agenda, I just want to know.

            Fluoridation is absolutely a topical issue at the moment. The thread is about the Greens so I was asking questions about their potential M.P.s.

            Do you know where they stand on these issues? What do you mean by ‘particularly unusual views’ ?

            • Chooky 6.1.1.2.2.1

              @ Tamati …if I knew ( which i dont, because i dont know many Greens ) I wouldnt tell you.!…why dont you ask them yourself…or look up the Green Policy ?…and why do YOU want to know?!….especially as you are highly critical of Steffan Browning and you are pro the multi-national Monsanto’s GM… You ask :”What do you mean by ‘particularly unusual views’ ?”…I mean , “particularly unusual” to very conservative people like yourself

              @ alywn…yes well i am older than 35…ha ha…( I also remember that there was WW1 and WW2 and the Charge of the Light Brigade)…….also i dont know how old Tamati is…he /she might be ninety and still getting around in a light raincoat with an umbrella and with a pie in a briefcase and ….urmm a gidget with access to porn ( I have heard some of those magazines no longer exist)

              …Lets face it, there is only so much you can learn through spying on peoples computers and cell phones …. especially in this day and age when the quarry is very leery…..You have to get out your old spy craft and work and gather information where ever and whenever on the ground …and who better to do it than the old geriatric spies?….i digress

              • Tamati

                I’ve looked on their website numerous times and tried to find press releases on the subject. Neither Browning nor Delahunty have mentioned either. Despite fluoridation being a very topical issue in this last year.
                Why do I want know? Because I have a suspicion that Greens hierarchy are trying to silence his views on these issues and I want to know what his views are. What wrong with wanting to know want a member of Parliament believes?
                Yes, I’m pro biotechnology. I’m pretty pro science in general really, hence why I’m currently studying it.
                You were the one who used the phrase “particularly unusual”. Why do you think I’m , conservative?
                I’m much younger than 35 and have no idea what you are talking about with regards to pies and briefcases.

                • Chooky

                  @ Tamati…Seems like you have already made up your mind….and are hunting for anecdotal or other Greens to give credence to your accusations….and you are trying to destroy Steffan Browning from within the Green Party.( again it tells me he is a very effective MP for the Green Party)

                  Tamati 3.1
                  17 March 2014 at 1:25 pm
                  “They’re scared of Browning because he has a tendency to say rather stupid things. He represents the old school hippies greens, anti-GE ,anti-Vaccination, anti-Fluoride, anti-Monsanto etc. Popular with the members, but potentially embarrassing for a government.”

                  Tamati are you working for Monsanto or some other multi-national?… Yes they do pay people to advocate for them and destroy any critical thinking or critical thinkers which threaten their money making…Do you get paid for your work by a multi-national ?…If so what multi-nationals are paying you either directly or indirectly? What PR/ advocacy company do you work for ? Who is this company paid by?

                  What political party do you belong to?….NACT?…I bet it isnt the Greens. This is where I think you are at (from one of your previous comments) :

                  “Greens in Germany often form coalitions with the centre-right CDU. I’m not sure if many Green MP’s would be in favour of a similar arrangement here”.

                  I think you are a desperate NACT who would love to get the Greens on side…..you know there isnt a chance in hell ….so you are working to destroy the core things that they stand for ( again from one of your comments above):

                  “…he represents the agrarian-organic faction of the party. Flick through his posts on Frog Blog and you’ll see he spends most of time bashing Monsanto and GE. The Greens want to move on from these issues, it may have got them votes in 2002 but it’s not a good look in a modern government”.

                  Conclusion: You are scared of the Greens getting into a NZ Government and in particular Steffan Browning .

                  I also note you say “not a good look in a modern government”……however this is where the modern governments in Europe are at.!….this is where Greens are at around the world!….so one can only conclude that you think the multi-.nationals should take over and dictate to New Zealand agriculture ….and dictate anything else which makes a profit out of New Zealanders….whether it be what they consume or health….multi-national profits must come first.

    • Penny Bright 6.2

      I agree.

      I’ve got a lot of time and respect for Steffan Browning and his consistent and persistent work on these issues.

      Penny Bright

      • dpalenski 6.2.1

        I think he and Steffan Browing were at an event once and Steffan Browing bumped into him and spilt coffee all over him and didn’t apologize so Tamati was like ‘what a bastard I’ll nitpick this guy until he’s out parliament’ or something to that effect

  7. Te Reo Putake 7

    Quick question to Green party members: why isn’t Mark Servian on this list? He’s easily the most effective non MP in the GP, so why is he being snubbed?

    • Flip 7.1

      He has chosen to remove himself from the ranked list and run as an un-ranked candidate for Hamilton East.

    • toad 7.2

      Green candidates apply to go on the ranked list only if they want to be MPs. Other candidates stand in electorates as a platform to maximise the Green party vote in their electorate, but do not aspire to be MPs so do not go on the ranked list. When the final list is submitted they will appear on it, but listed alphabetically in positions below 41 which are obviously not electable.

      And before someone points it out, I know that realistically positions below 20 are likely not electable give current polling, but we can always hope.

    • SeanMartell 7.3

      If you can get hold of today’s Waikato Times it’s in there, but because he didn’t have an electable position he thought it’d be better to pull out.

      Annoying though, because he was right- the greens really need a Waikato/central north island based MP.

  8. outofbed 8

    I think the most effective non MP in the GP is in fact James Shaw
    James put together the team that got 5 councilors elected at the Wellington local elections
    and also put the team together who relegated Labour to third Place in Welly Central.
    He has been rightly rewarded for this.
    Mark has been effective, but is paid staffer, so one would hope he was effective.
    To the best of my knowledge Mark has not been snubbed.

    • Te Reo Putake 8.1

      Cheers, outofbed. I note that Shaw is number ten on the list, so almost certainly an MP post election. It seems weird that an ‘effective staffer’ and popular local organiser like Mark can’t even make the top twenty.

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    Both the Government and police need to take action to ensure that, in future, sexual abuse victims know they will be taken seriously, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “The young women involved in the Roast Busters case, and...
    Labour | 30-10
  • Te Wakaputanga – What we did not learn at school
    This week saw the 179th anniversary of the signing of Te Wakaputanga, the Declaration of Independence of the United Tribes of Niu Tireni. Most of us did not learn about this fundamentally critical document at school, we barely learned about...
    Greens | 30-10
  • NZ goes backwards on gender equality
    It is no coincidence that in the same week New Zealand is singled out for going backwards on child poverty under National,  we’ve also dropped in global rankings for gender equality. In one year New Zealand has dropped from 7th...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Kevin Hague questions the Minister of Health on management of Katherine Ric...
    Is he satisfied that all conflicts of interest that arose by the head of Food and Grocery Council Katherine Rich being a member of the Health Promotion Agency were managed in accordance with the provisions of the Crown Entities Act...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Bennett parks numbers on social housing
    Social Housing Minister Paula Bennett admitted today that well over 1000 families have been subsidised through the accommodation supplement to stay in the Ranui campground, somewhere she has previously described as not the right place for children to be growing...
    Labour | 30-10
  • 50,000 sign petition against anti-worker law
    More than 50,000 Kiwis have signed Labour’s petition against the Government’s scrapping of tea break entitlements, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “That’s the equivalent of five people signing our petition every minute for a week. It shows the...
    Labour | 30-10
  • Address in Reply Debate – Dr Kennedy Graham on UN Security Council- 2...
    In the Speech from the Throne last week the Prime Minister identified the usual domestic goals for his Government. I counted 17. They are not my subject today. I wish instead to focus on matters beyond our shores. In the...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Climate change harming ocean health
    New Zealand is responsible for one of the largest areas of sea in the world – an area 14 times the size of our land area. The National Government is promising new marine protected areas legislation with a discussion document...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Key misled public over Jason Ede
    Information contained in a new chapter of the book Key: Portrait of a Prime Minister, that Jason Ede stopped working for the National Party on the night the book Dirty Politics was released, shows Mr Key and senior ministers hid...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Greenpeace report highlights better path for NZ agriculture
    A Greenpeace International report highlights a better way forward for New Zealand agriculture than the GE and chemical mutation technologies supported by Federated Farmers, and the National Government through its research funding packages, the Green Party said today. "This report...
    Greens | 29-10
  • BNZ post record profits while leaving savers vulnerable
    A small part of the $850 million record profit posted by the Bank of New Zealand (BNZ) today needs to be set aside to protect savers' deposits in the future, said Green Party Co-leader Dr Russel Norman today.Dr Norman was...
    Greens | 29-10
  • RBNZ U-turn shows monetary settings were wrong
    The Reserve Bank's U-turn on interest rates today shows monetary policy settings were wrong and New Zealanders have suffered unnecessarily through the loss of jobs and having to pay higher interest rates, the Green Party said today.Reserve Bank Governor Graeme...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Ports must take responsibility for shameful death toll
    Port companies must step up and take responsibility for a shameful toll of seven deaths and 133 serious accidents in the past three years, Labour MP Iain Lees-Galloway says. The frightening figures – released by the Rail, Maritime and Transport...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Please help me get my Feed the Kids Bill to Select Committee
    Last week I took over the Feed the Kids Bill that Hone Harawira had introduced to Parliament. If passed, my Bill will provide government-funded breakfast and lunch in all decile 1 and 2 schools. Hungry kids can’t learn and are...
    Greens | 29-10
  • TVNZ Outsourcing Pasifika and Maori Programmes
    I’ve always been a big fan of our state broadcaster and I’ve particularly liked their range of current events programmes. But after Friday’s announcement that TVNZ will be sacking up to 40 staff by contracting out the Pacific and Maori...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Labour urges iwi leaders to meet with National
    Labour’s Māori Caucus has called on iwi leaders and national Māori organisations to seek urgent meetings with the National Government to directly express their concerns about employment law changes which will harm Māori workers. In an open letter sent today...
    Labour | 29-10
  • ACC’s reputation needs fix, not glitz
    Restoring public trust and confidence in ACC will take a lot more than a new communications strategy or social media blitz, says Labour’s ACC spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway. “Under National, ACC has come to be perceived as insensitive, difficult to deal...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Lessons to be learned from police investigation
    The outcome of the so-called Roast Busters case should not put victims off reporting sexual crimes, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “This case has been mishandled from the start. Within days of police initially saying no charges had...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Anti-worker legislation is anti-Pacifica
    The Minister for Pacific Peoples, Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga, will go down in history as being part of a Government that harmed his own people through anti-worker legislation, says Labour’s Pacific Island Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “Pacific people are among...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Five-year tax holiday for overseas tax dodgers
    National has just gifted a five-year tax holiday for foreign companies dodging their tax payments, says Revenue spokesperson David Clark. “Todd McClay has pretended he is doing something about overseas companies dodging their tax duties by joining an international initiative...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Traffic Jam Tax must be given the red light
    Auckland Council’s proposed Traffic Jam Tax could cost some households thousands of dollars a year just to use roads they had already paid for with their taxes and must be rejected, says Labour’s transport and Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 29-10
  • National has chance to show leadership on limos
    The National Party has the opportunity to show leadership by transitioning our vehicle fleet towards renewable electricity when a new contract to supply Government limousines for VIPs goes to tender next month, the Green Party said today. "This is a...
    Greens | 29-10
  • The Māori Party can’t have it both ways over labour laws
    The Māori Party has to fess up over its voting record on the Employment Relations Amendment Bill, says Labour’s Māori Caucus.  “It’s simply not good enough to oppose the bill at the same time  as they helped speed up its progress through...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Equal pay and the aged care sector
    Today the High Court upheld the historic ruling by the Employment Court that our Equal Pay Act could be used to consider work of equal value cases; the government has been telling the UN and ILO that it could for...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Court case perfect opportunity for Government to improve gender pay gap
    If the Government wants to halt New Zealand’s slump in international rankings on the gender pay gap it should act on the court finding that women deserve equal wages, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Sue Moroney says. “The World Economic Forum’s...
    Labour | 28-10
  • All Auckland transport options should be considered
    All options for meeting Auckland's transport needs should be considered, including reprioritising the transport budget away from wasteful spending on motorways, the Green Party said today.Auckland mayor Len Brown is today releasing a transport report by the Independent Advisory Board,...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Another report highlights Govt failure on child poverty
    An international report measuring the impact of the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) on child poverty rates, showing children in New Zealand have done worse than children in other countries, is further proof the Government needs to urgently take additional steps...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Child poverty: No more wake-up calls
    A new report which shows the National Government has made no inroads whatsoever into child poverty should do more than just set alarm bells ringing, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “UNICEF’s  latest Innocenti Report Card highlights the fact...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Eugenie Sage speaks in the 2014 Address in Reply Debate
    I congratulate you, Assistant Speaker Mallard, as Assistant Speaker and look forward to your knowledge, your fairness, and your light touch in being a referee of proceedings in this House. I congratulate also the other Assistant Speaker, Lindsay Tisch; the...
    Greens | 28-10
  • James Shaw’s Maiden Speech
    Tena Koe, Mr Speaker. I would like to take this opportunity to speak a little of the past, the present and the future. The privilege to serve in this Parliament was given to me by all those who gave their...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Govt airs real views on public broadcasting
    An admission by the Government that it is happy to experiment with Pacific and Maori audiences shows just how weak its vision for public broadcasting in New Zealand is, Labour’s Broadcasting spokesperson Kris Faafoi says. “National today admitted it doesn’t...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Does Judith Collins have a get out of jail card?
    Former justice minister Judith Collins appears to have been gifted a get out of jail free card based on the Prime Minister’s answers in Parliament today, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “Judith Collins claimed in an Official Information...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Solid Energy decision delay sensible
    Today’s announcement by the Board of Solid Energy that it will delay making a final decision on re-entering the Pike River mine is a sensible move, Labour’s MP for  West Coast-Tasman Damien O’Connor says. “It has been clear for some...
    Labour | 28-10
  • New York Green Bank off to a $1B start
    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced late last week the New York Green Bank’s first NZD$1 billion tranche of green energy investments. The projects, which are difficult for the private sector to finance, are now possible by New York Green...
    Greens | 28-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Blockade the Budget
    The ‘Independent’ Police Conduct Authority’s report into the policing of student protests in 2012 is a whitewash The report released by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is a whitewash riddled with inaccuracies....
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • When National claim new anti worker laws provide ‘flexibility’ they mea...
    And so it comes to pass. The first law National ram through as part of their victory march are new anti worker laws they pretend will generate ‘flexibility’. The new law denigrate the unions ability to protect workers and provide...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • City Transport: A Taxing Matter
    This week the prospect of paying tolls on Auckland motorways became a hot topic. (See Mathew Dearnaley:Motorway tolling could hit some hard, NZ Herald, 30 Oct 2014.) As we might expect, the kneejerk response has been quite negative. But, as with...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Open Letter to Amy Adams: Please Reopen The Review Into Sexual Violence Cou...
    Ms Amy Adams, Justice and Courts Minister, Right now in this country it seems that although rape is illegal, it is not being prevented by the agents who uphold the law. It almost feels like rape is only illegal on paper,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: Does ‘No-Surprises’ Also Apply To TVNZ News?
    When you stand back and look at NZ media outlets, most of them have at least one or two people who attempt to hold the government to account: John Campbell on TV3, Guyon Espiner and others at Radio NZ, David...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Things That Make You Go Hmmmmmmm
    Every so often in politics, a public figure comes out with something so absurd and so outlandish … that it really does just make you go “Hmmmmmmmmmm”. We’re accustomed to this from certain quarters – by mid point through the...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Poverty & inequality don’t need protest marches – they need a riot:...
    The global level of inequality continues to skyrocket… Number of billionaires doubled since financial crisis The number of billionaires has doubled since the start of the financial crisis, according to a major new report from anti-poverty campaigners. According to Oxfam,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • If Key knows who Rawshark is…
    I’m sorry, what? John Key ‘given Rawshark’s name’The Prime Minister believes he knows who hacked Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater’s computer and produced the source material for Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics, according to a new edition of a recently published...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Child Poverty stats in NZ
    Child Poverty stats in NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Crimes Act + Police Investigation = WTF
    Just to frame the farce that is the Roastbuster’s investigation and conclusion – here are the parts of the Crime Act http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/whole.html#DLM329057  the Roastbusters are proven to have violated – that the police (and some suspects!) themselves acknowledge occurred: Crimes...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Publishing Journalists’ Home Addresses Is A Tactic Of The Right, Not The ...
    I think I’m starting to get rather annoyed with the conduct of some pro-MANA people over this ongoing Parliamentary Services crew complement issue. Yes, we get that there are legitimate issues to be raised with how some political reporters in...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Aucklanders caught between a tarseal-addicted government and a weak mayor
    Len Brown’s proposal for motorway tolls to reduce congestion and provide funding for better public transport is a weak response to a critical issue. The $12 billion dollar shortfall on transport funding he talks about is mainly for projected new...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • A Very Weird Story: Deconstructing Darren Aronofsky’s Noah.
    NOAH is a curious movie. Conceived as a biblical epic, it’s target audience was originally the millions of Americans who regard the Bible as God’s inerrant word. With the sin-filled works of Hollywood forbidden to these true-believers, Christian movie-makers have developed...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • You Can Get Away With Rape In New Zealand
    Jessie Hume with last years petition against rape     The police have sent a strong message today.  In fact they’ve been sending a strong message for a while; a message that our government supports. “You can literally get away...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Roast Buster case – no charges. In the immortal words of NWA…
    Roast Busters case: No prosecutions Police are to make an announcement this afternoon on Operation Clover, the investigation into the “Roast Busters” allegations. The Herald understands the victim has been told that the alleged offenders will not be prosecuted due...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Key’s flag change distraction to cost $26million!
    No. Way. Bid to change NZ flag to cost millions The cost of holding two referendums and consulting on a change of flag has been estimated to be just under $26 million. Look. We all appreciate that the sleepy hobbits...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Why NZ Herald’s Labour Party crocodile tears are so audacious
    The front page the NZ Herald would use if they thought they could get away with it No one can take the recent columns by NZ Herald seriously… John Armstrong: Shadow lingers on National John Roughan: Labour’s leadership vote matters...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • The beginning of the end of Cameron Slater?
    Slater postings on man bizarre, court told A businessman has changed his appearance and had to install extra security at his home after Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater posted his business and personal documents online, he says. Mr Slater has...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • We are a milk power republic and Fonterra our unelected senate
    Wow. Just wow… Deputy mayor says he’ll be sacked South Taranaki deputy mayor Alex Ballantyne says he expects to be sacked because he has spoken out about the impact gasses coming from dumped Fonterra dairy products have had on his...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: “…But *actually* this is about ethics in political-game jo...
    Yesterday, a piece of mine on the recent revelations about Hone Harawira employing several gentlemen either accused or convicted of sex offences was published on The Daily Blog. Predictably, given the fierce loyalty which Hone inspires in his party faithful and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Privilege cheque
    There was no race problem in my childhood. Living in central Wellington I was well-insulated from what was going on not so far away. This was the 60s and 70s, where the teachers enjoyed free love in the staff room...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • A brief word on Key’s claim that it will be raining carnage
    Isis will ‘rain carnage on the world’ – John Key Left unchecked Isis would “rain carnage on the world”, Prime Minister John Key says, but he has yet to make a decision on whether New Zealand troops will join a...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Meanwhile…
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    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • How does Andrew Little win Labour Leadership and unify the caucus?
    Audrey Young’s excellent column on how the Caucus vote  is shaping up shows how Andrew Little becomes the next leader of the Labour Party. She identifies the factions as the following… Andrew Little 6: Andrew Little, David Cunliffe, Iain Lees Galloway,...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Right of response to Curwen
    You have asked that Hone Harawira deserves to explain what happened, how would he explain when his next door neighbour is an alleged sex offender. What explanation can Hone offer he wasn’t involved, Hone had no idea this offending was...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: That Hella-Weird Feeling When You Defend Tova O’Brien
    Oh dear. Yesterday morning I blogged that Hone deserved a chance to explain what exactly had happened as applies his office’s Parliamentary Services crew complement – and, importantly, that we deserve to be able to judge him on the strength of...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Canadian Green MP warns against harsh anti-terror measures
    Canada’s Green Party has provided a welcome counterpoint to Prime Minister Harper’s call for tougher anti-terrorism laws in the wake of a soldier outside the Canadian Parliament. On October 22, while she was still locked in her parliamentary office, Green...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • When is an asset sale not an asset sale? When it robs from the poor and ste...
    National have turned state housing on its head. At no time during the 2014 election did the Key Government even hint that they were going to privatise 30% of the Housing NZ stock of state homes. Not once. Key even...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part To...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Rua) . Bill English comes clean on National’s intentions for HNZ privatisation . On 14 October, in a report on The Daily Blog, I wrote, In...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • The Questions Have Been Asked – They Deserve An Answer
    A few days ago, allegations that had been percolating for some time about Hone Harawira employing three either accused or convicted sex offenders on his Parliamentary pay-roll came to light. (one imprisoned before working for MANA; one who found himself convicted and...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • I have seen one future, and it is bleak
    . . Back in  March 2012, I wrote this story regarding a march to support striking workers at Ports of Auckland. It appears there was some prescience about some of my observations at the time… . | | 18 March...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • US air strike war Key wants us in has killed a civilian a day so far
      The US air strike war that John Key wants us to join has killed a civilian a day so far. From the Washington Post... The United States launched its first airstrikes on militants in Syria on Sept. 23, and has continued...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • The instant Jihad syndrome
    My favourite new term is ‘self-radicalised’ – it suggests the reasons for terrorism are totally divorced from the actions of the West. This need to suddenly ramp up terror laws because of lone wolf, self-radicalised Jihadists seems convenient and counter-productive....
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • We have nothing to fear from Ebola but fear itself
    I suspect most Americans perceive Ebola like this   I can’t work out if the fear being spread within the media about Ebola is deliberate or just ignorance. Yes Ebola is a terrible plague that kills a large percentage of...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – “Meritocracy? I wish.”
    I’d like to start by linking to a post I had published at another site in support of Nanaia Mahuta for the Labour Party leadership election.  She has a reasonable chance, given that she already has the endorsement of Te...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Chocolate milk shortage and creepy Santa? Let’s talk about real news
    Child poverty is still a scarily serious problem in this country and house prices are soaring through the roof to the point where it is simply impossible for the average New Zealander to buy a home. There is also little...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • It’s time to celebrate Kiwi schools and teachers
    Some would have you believe that New Zealand’s schools are in a state of collapse, that your children are not being educated well and that things are going to hell in a hand basket.  That there is no innovation, no...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Ideological Blitzkrieg – Privatization of state housing, more charter sch...
    Pundits in pundit land will tell you that this Government is boring, that Key is the great pragmatist and that it is his ability to create elegant solutions that keeps him the firm favourite in many Kiwi eyes. This ability...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • Hegemony rules but resistance is fertile
    The Prime Minister is a puppet. Not just our current Prime Minister, but given the forces of multinational globalisation, the role of any head of state, is less as independent actor, and more as a puppet of international trends and...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • An open Letter to Sir Bob Jones: demanding a ‘liveable wage’ is not “...
    How out of touch with reality is Sir Bob Jones? You know, that white dude who invested in privatised SOEs after the selling off of our assets in the eighties and made a ludicrous and disgusting amount of money and is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • My insecurity about the Security Council
    As I write this (on 24 October) it is international UN Day. Of course, you all knew that already, right? Well, the day celebrates the entry into force of the UN Charter in 1945. With the ratification of this founding...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Back in That House
    Parliament opened this week and I still find it a very odd place. Most of the people are reasonably courteous and friendly, but the rituals are archaic and the rules around issues like the swearing in oath are oppressive and...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Marae Investigates No More
    TVNZ yesterday announced the closure of their Māori and Pacific programmes department. That means they’ve chosen to stop making Fresh, Tagata Pasifika, Waka Huia and Marae Investigates to let independent producers get their hands on these lucrative contracts. This is...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • BLOGWATCH: An Un-Civil War in Labour, eh?
    Earlier today, my attention was directed to an entry that’s just recently appeared on the Slightly Left of Centre blog. It purports to contain the ‘inside word’ from a highly placed NZF source – which is funny, because I’m pretty sure...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Santanomics 101
    Santanomics could mean a number of things. It could be the study and practice of giving. Or it could mean the study and practice of rampant end-of-year commercialism. However, for me today it is the economics of erectingAuckland’s giant Santa...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • SkyCity boss misleads public over workers lost shifts
    SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison has defended the employment practices at his company in an “Opinion” piece entitled “Human Capital key to corporate success” in the NZ Herald on Thursday. A number of his claims are misleading, contain only partial truths...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Review: Perfect Place
    I went to a Perfect Place on Tuesday night, and what a delight it was. The marshmallows sweetly (and forcefully) handed out pre-show, set the tone for the next hour. Walking up the stairs at The Basement was a complete...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • 5AA Australia – NZ on UN Security Council + Dirty Politics Lingers On
    5AA Australia: Selwyn Manning and Peter Godfrey deliver their weekly bulletin Across The Ditch. General round up of over night talkback issues: Thongs, Jandals and flip-flops… ISSUE 1: New Zealand has been successful in its campaign to become a non...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • When I mean me, I mean my office & when I call whaleoil I mean not as m...
    This. Is. Ludicrous. Green Party co-leader Russel Norman put the first of what are likely to be many questions about Mr Key’s relationship with Slater, asking him how many times he had phoned or texted the blogger since 2008. “None...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • A brief word on describing the Government as ‘boring and bland’
    The narrative being sown is that this Government will be a boring and bland third term. Boring and bland. Since the election, Key has announced he is privatising 30% of state houses without reinvesting any of that money back into housing society’s most...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • Roast Busters: Turn Indignation into Action
    People raged about the Roast Buster case. The indignation was justified – it was horrible. “Where were their parents!?” Fair question. I am sure the Roast Busters’ parents and the victims’ parents all wish they had been more proactive in...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Stats NZ only have themselves to blame for postponement
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says Statistics NZ only have themselves to blame for the indefinite postponement of the release of the Food Price Index: November 2014....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • NZ Diversity Survey – benchmarking workplace diversity
    AUT University’s New Zealand Work Research Institute (NZWRI) has released a report on diversity in New Zealand workplaces....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Māori Language (Te Reo Māori) Bill
    Tutehounuku Korako, Chair of the Māori Affairs Committee, is inviting further public submissions on this bill. The closing date for submissions is Friday, 5 December 2014....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • ERA amendments a mixed bag
    The Employment Relations Amendment Act has the potential to put vulnerable workers in a more precarious position, says Equal Opportunities Commissioner, Dr Jackie Blue. However, the commissioner says the right for all to request flexible work hours is...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Sensible Sentencing calls for appeal of judicial activivism
    The Sensible Sentencing Trust is appalled that Justice Jill Mallon has today refused to apply the Life without Parole (LWOP) provisions of the Three Strikes law as enacted by Parliament....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Global Rally against ISIS – for Kobanê – for Humanity, Nov 1
    The New Zealand Kurdish Community will march in solidarity with Kurdistan as part of the “GLOBAL RALLY AGAINST ISIS – FOR KOBANÊ – FOR HUMANITY” on 1 November 2014, 2pm....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Does ‘No-Surprises’ Also Apply To TVNZ News?
    When you stand back and look at NZ media outlets, most of them have at least one or two people who attempt to hold the government to account: John Campbell on TV3, Guyon Espiner and others at Radio NZ, David...
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Safer roads are better for everyone
    Recent pedestrian versus vehicle incidents highlight the real issues being addressed by delegates as the 2Walk and Cycle conference concludes....
    Scoop politics | 31-10
  • Law change creates more flexible labour market
    The Employment Relations Amendment Act, passed yesterday, will bring new flexibility to the labour market and will reduce the ability of unions to organise and to recruit....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Bumper ANZ profits mean no excuse for insecure hours
    A big rise in profits at New Zealand's largest bank needs to be reflected in a better pay offer and more security around hours of work, the bank workers’ union said today....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Count down to lowered alcohol limit
    With just a month to go until a new lower alcohol limit for adult drivers comes into effect, Police and road safety agencies are reminding drivers of the impending change....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • WorkSafe Supports Forestry Review Findings
    WorkSafe NZ says the Independent Forestry Safety Review has clearly identified the problems facing an industry in which ten workers were killed last year. “The Review’s analysis matches our own view and leaves no doubt about the need for comprehensive,...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CTU welcomes forestry review recommendations
    The CTU is welcoming the today's release of the independent forestry safety review panel findings. "These recommendations must be implemented to ensure that everything possible is done to make forestry safer." CTU President, Helen Kelly said....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Activists will confront animal abusers
    Today animal rights activists will confront a group of wealth advisers who want to build the biggest egg factory-farm in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Turia: Women’s Refuge Conference 2014
    This is a milestone moment in my life. This will be my last official address as Co-leader of the Maori Party. On Saturday night at our Hui-a-Tau, I will be standing down from that role and enabling a new co-leader,...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rodeo Code of Welfare ‘Sick Joke’
    Animal advocacy organisation SAFE says the revised Code of Welfare for Rodeos just released is nothing but a sick joke. “Rodeo animals are goaded, tormented and forced to endure needless suffering and gross mistreatment, all for the sake of so-called...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Conservative Party applauds binding referenda on flag
    The Conservative Party are congratulating the Government on the decision to hold two binding referendums to decide the fate of New Zealand’s flag – and believes it will pave the way for binding referenda to form part of New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Walk the Talk – Opposing violence against women
    Soroptimist International of Auckland have organised a walk on 22 November from Silo Park at the Wynyard Quarter through the Viaduct and back to Silo Park, to show their opposition to violence against women. This event hopes to raise awareness...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Recommendations on the Design of Pecuniary Penalties
    The Law Commission has reviewed the use of pecuniary penalties as a regulatory tool. Pecuniary penalties are financial penalties that policymakers are increasingly opting to use in place of criminal sanctions in order to punish and deter misconduct in...
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  • Every worker will be affected by employment law changes
    Every worker will feel the effects of the government’s new employment laws and should join a union if they want to maintain and increase their wages and conditions, says New Zealand’s largest private sector union, the EPMU....
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  • Shameful attack on all workers
    The Government has passed the Employment Relations Amendment Act slashing the rights of all Kiwi workers. “These changes are shameful. New Zealand now has some of the worst employment protections in the OECD. It is embarrassing that a country which...
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  • Unnecessary law changes more to do with ideology
    The government’s employment law changes are simply ideological and are at odds with its approach in the related areas of health and safety and immigration law, FIRST Union said tonight....
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  • CTU Runanga calls on iwi leaders
    Maori workers are calling on iwi leaders to speak out against the employment law changes expected to go through today. “Iwi leaders have previously spoken out when workers in Aotearoa have been under attack, we believe they should do so...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Educating children not the best solution to alcohol harm
    Alcohol Healthwatch says we need to look beyond educating children and young people to address deeply embedded attitudes and behaviours concerning alcohol....
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  • New code of welfare for rodeos released
    New standards to strengthen the animal welfare requirements for rodeos have been issued today by the Minister for Primary Industries, Nathan Guy....
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  • IPCA report riddle with inaccuracies, say students
    A report by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is riddled with inaccuracies, say students who laid the original complaint with the IPCA....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CT v The Queen – indecency convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rameka v The Queen – murder convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
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  • Auckland Council Out of Control
    Responding to the NZ Herald article that some Auckland households will face a rates rise of up to 9.6 per cent next year, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “Len Brown’s pledge to cap rates rises at 2.5 per...
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  • Stats NZ staff escalate action with ‘no more meetings’ rule
    Statistics NZ staff have voted to escalate their ongoing industrial action in an effort to get Stats NZ back to the bargaining table with a reasonable offer. The staff, who are members of the Public Service Association (PSA), have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Rape Crisis calls for changes to criminal justice system
    Wellington Rape Crisis has added its voice to the public outcry following the announcement that there will be no charges in the teen rape gang case. Butterworth says the decision not to lay charges will not have been a surprise...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Police action justified in Blockade the Budget demonstration
    Police actions in dealing with a demonstration in Central Auckland known as Blockade the Budget on 1 June 2012 were justified and appropriate, an Independent Police Conduct Authority report released today found....
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  • NZDF Joins with Australia to Commemorate WWI Centenary
    A contingent of New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel will join their Australian counterparts at Australia’s first major commemoration of the First World War centenary in Albany, Western Australia this weekend....
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  • Reserve Bank should reduce interest rate
    “The Reserve Bank should be reducing its policy interest rate, the OCR”, says CTU Economist Bill Rosenberg in response to the Bank’s announcement today that it is not increasing it....
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  • 2015 Stout Fellow will write about Māori & Criminal Justice
    Kim Workman, founder and advocate for the Robson Hanan Trust, which administers the Rethinking Crime and Punishment and Justspeak initiatives, has been awarded the 2015 John David Stout Fellowship at Victoria University....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • What John Key thought about ‘dirty politics’
    On September 20, John Key swept to victory to become one of New Zealand’s most successful and popular Prime Ministers. Rocked by scandal, the 2014 election campaign was one of the most brutal – and riveting – in recent history....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Trade Deal Threatens Farmers and Food Businesses
    The secret Trans Pacific Partnership negotiations are a direct threat to food businesses and farmers, and a moratorium on the release of GE crops must be enshrined in law before the TPP is signed....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • CTU announces election of new Secretary
    The contested election for the position of CTU Secretary has been won by Sam Huggard. Sam officially takes office on Monday 1 December 2014. Sam has worked in the union movement and brings a wealth of experience and a commitment...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kim Workman awarded 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship
    The Victoria University of Wellington 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship, funded by the Stout Trust, has been awarded to justice reform advocate Kim Workman. Mr Workman (Ngati Kahungungu ki Wairarapa, Rangitaane) is well known for his work on criminal justice,...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • TPPA causing concern
    Concern over the secretive Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) negotiations is being expressed in two public meetings over the next week; one at a presentation on 5th November by former councillor Robin Gwynn to the Napier City Council, the...
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  • Kiwis rally to demand justice for ‘Roast Buster’ survivors
    Over 1,500 kiwis have rallied to demand justice after the announcement of the NZ Police decision not to lay charges in the ‘Roast Busters’ saga....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • New employment law will hurt the most vulnerable NZers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says changes to the Employment Relations Act, expected to be passed in Parliament tonight, will hurt vulnerable workers and their families more than anyone....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Consultation to close on proposed place names
    The New Zealand Geographic Board (NZGB) Ngā Pou Taunaha o Aotearoa today advised that only one month remains before public consultation closes for 18 name proposals for geographic features and places around Te Ika ā Māui (the North Island)....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Operation Clover – Statement from Police Commissioner
    I have taken a close interest in this investigation and I am confident police have conducted a thorough and professional enquiry in what has been a challenging and complex case. The Operation Clover team has ensured that victims have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Better policy would have protected children from recession
    Child Poverty Action Group says an international report released by UNICEF today shows good policy can protect and improve child well-being, even during a recession....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Outcome of Operation Clover investigation
    Police have completed a multi-agency investigation, Operation Clover, into the activities of a group calling themselves “The Roast Busters”. The 12 month enquiry focused on incidents involving allegations of sexual offending against a number of girls...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • False birth registration brings home detention
    A Whangarei woman who attempted to register the birth of a fictitious child to claim a sole parent benefit was sentenced to six months home detention in the Whangarei District Court today....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Family of Robert Ellis demand a proper investigation
    The family of a New Zealander killed in Indonesia are growing increasingly concerned at the lack of information they’ve received, and the handling of the investigation into his murder....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Minister of Health must account for aged care workers’ pay
    The New Zealand Federation of Business and Professional Women (BPW NZ) congratulates rest-home worker Kristine Bartlett on her landmark claim for equal pay from her employer and successfully pursuing this to the Court of Appeal....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
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