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Privileged try to turn Kiwis against each other

Written By: - Date published: 8:22 am, August 14th, 2012 - 213 comments
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National Party campaign designer John Ansell and Invercargill-based racist Louis Crimp are planning a $2 million campaign to whip up racial hatred between Pakeha and Maori. I don’t think people will be fooled, even if anyone publishes their material. We’ve moved past the Owera days. Everyone will see this is about NACToids’ privilege, not Maori privilege.

In shades of Key’s failed attempt to divide Maori – for the Pakeha audience – between the ‘good’ Iwi Leaders and ‘ bad’ Maori Council, Ansell wants to delegitimise any attempts for justice and advancement for Maori by saying there are ‘grievers and achievers’ among Maori.

The fundamental objective, of course, is to get Pakeha angry at Mori, rather than angry at the tiny rich elite who are getting richer while the rest of us get poorer. Ideally, he would like a Tea Party situation where poor whites blinded by racism fight for the privileges of rich whites.

Ansell says there’s nothing racist about wanting equal rights for all. And there’s not. But that’s not what he and Crimp want. They want the Crown to dishonour a treaty it signed. They want to foment the myth of Maori privilege. They want to stoke up racial division. Crimp and Ansell’s public comments are laden with racism. Ansell came up with the most racist National Party political campaign since the 1970s.

If they really spend $2 million, I think it will inevitably have an effect on people. Although I doubt that the mainstream media will run the level of overtly racist material that Ansell is hinting at when he refers to when he says that he wants to “enrage the public”. That’s not just because media bosses have some standards or because of the BSA and press council consequences – it’s because New Zealanders aren’t as racist as Ansell would like us to believe, or as racist as we once were, and media that run racist ads risk losing customers.

Finally, a wee smack for Farrar. He wrote a post of this so-called ‘Treatygate’ campaign without criticising it. That can only be taken as a tacit endorsement. Now, do I think Farrar’s a racist? No, not an active one. A passive structuralist one, perhaps, but not an active one. But he knows that many of the Right’s hardcore are racist – just look at the comments section below his post. And he knows that the point of encouraging racism in the masses isn’t the racism itself but the distraction and protection it brings for the elite. So, he draws attention to Ansell’s racism without condemning it.

Farrar’s quandary is also a problem for National. Will Key come out and condemn racism from his former ad-man? Or will he be seen as endorsing it?

213 comments on “Privileged try to turn Kiwis against each other”

  1. tracey 1

    *sigh*

    Its interesting that economic equality isnt important to these folks. They dont believe in equality they believe in might is right, be it numerical advantage or financial. They squeal like stuck pigs when anyone steals from them.

    • Gosman 1.1

      Why should it be important to them. Equality is mainly the concern of the left. People on the right are more interested in economic freedoms. You are essentially stating that you think these people should think like you. I certainly wouldn’t want a world where everyone thought pretty much the same.

      • tracey 1.1.1

        except they use equality when they want to remove legal rights from maori… They dont frame it as legal freedom.

        • Gosman 1.1.1.1

          Depends tracey. I think they want everyone to be equal under the law, (that is certainly what they say anyway). Now I’m not sure anyone would disagree with this. The Treaty doesn’t grant Maori any additional legal protection that non-Maori don’t have as far as I am aware.

          • bad12 1.1.1.1.1

            You have that about right, the Treaty of Waitangi was a document outlining Maori property rights and equal rights of British citizens…

            • Gosman 1.1.1.1.1.1

              Exactly. Amazing we actually agree on something here.

            • Colonial Viper 1.1.1.1.1.2

              Nah, from the Maori point of view the Treaty was largely about Rangatiratanga.

              I’m not sure what you guys think that is, but its not accurately translated as “Maori property rights”.

              • Gosman

                However the Brits took the view they were guarranteeing Property and cultural rights in return for Sovereignty. Given the fact that Sovereignty trumps pretty much everything it doesn’t matter much what the Maori thought they were getting.

                • McFlock

                  Assuming that’s the case (big assumption), most treaty claims and settlements are about property and cultural rights, AFAIK.
                           
                  So Crimp and Ansell want what already exists – one law for all?

                  • Gosman

                    Pretty much. Unless they can produce something in the way of evidence that Maori actually do get favourable treatment based on their cultural background. They might have a case for quotas in Tertiary education for example. Then again someother groups also get this I believe.

                    The one area that I would agree with them is on the Maori seats. I used to support the principle of them under FPP as the system was certainly not supportive of minorities getting a good level of representation in Parliament. However MMP has changed this. The only thing the Maori seats do now is to encourage Maori parties to spring up. The idea that a party can somehow reflect the asperations of an entire diverse cultural group is just nuts in my view. It is also ultimately racist.

                    • McFlock

                      lol.
                             
                      A $2mil advertising campaign all about the Maori seats.
                          
                      Why shouldn’t a certain amount of political representation follow existing social structures, rather than just geography? Particularly when it involves one of the two parties to the Treaty? 

                    • Gosman

                      Because it goes againt the notion of a broad based inclusive representative liberal democracy and is potentially divisive to society as a whole.

                      Ask yourself whether the Maori party would exist without the Maori seats and also ask yourself whether a single party can truly represent an entire ethnic group in politics.

                    • McFlock

                      Seriously Gos,
                            
                      You think a few Maori seats are big enough of a deal to raise equivalent advertising revenue to a governing-party re-election campaign?
                             
                      While 20% of our kids live in poverty, you can’t think of a better use for $2million and campaign professionals’ time other than debating whether Maori representation in parliament should be ensured? 
                             
                      While our assets are being sold in a massive and undemocratic waste of money, you want millions spent on the Maori seats?
                             
                      While the Chch “rebuild” limps on, you want millions spent on the Maori seats?
                              
                      While registered unemployment nudges 7%, you want to waste millions on debating the Maori seats? 
                             
                      Nice to know where your priorities lie. 

                    • Gosman

                      Ummmm… no, no I don’t want to do this. If someone else chooses to exercise their DEMOCRATIC right to express and promote an opinion then I am cool with that though.

                      You perhaps would place restrictions on topics that can be discussed in society based on your personal preferences would you?

                    • McFlock

                      If they have the right to spend money on such idiocy, then I have the right to point out how fucked up their priorities are.
                             
                         
                      Love how you went from defending their position to simply defending their right to hold that position (as do I as long as it’s shy of hate speech). Coincidentally when the opportunity cost of spending money on that position was pointed out to you. 

                • Pascal's bookie

                  “Given the fact that Sovereignty trumps pretty much everything it doesn’t matter much what the Maori thought they were getting.”

                  Umm. Who had sovereignty prior to the treaty?

                  If you are going to argue ‘Treaty as contract about property rights’ then what iwi thought they werre getting in return for cedeing soverieignty is vitally important. Surely?

                  • Gosman

                    The trouble for Maori is that under the British system, once they ceeded sovereignty to the Crown they pretty much lost the majority of power.

                    If they had a better understanding of Western systems of government they could have insisted instead on a formal constitutional arrangements whereby their rights could be better protected.

                    However they instead chose to hand over Sovereignty without these guarrantees so now we have a situation whereby their rights are only protected by statute and can be similarily removed via the Government at any stage.

                    That stated there is an moral obligation on the Crown to honour their side of the contract. What this means though has to be worked through politically.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      But hang on, if the treaty was breached then was soveriegnty legitimatly transferred? I’m asking wht you think , based on your commitment to right wing values, and contracts and what not. What political position do you take. Where do yuo start from, in answering the question; What should we do?

                    • Fran

                      Problem with your argument is that Maori would argue that they never handed over sovereignty only governance.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      It would also be helpful if you could explain why you think “it doesn’t matter much what the Maori thought they were getting”, based on those same right wing principles. It’s kind of the crux of the debate really.

                    • Gosman

                      Unfortunately Sovereignty is a little like virginity .Once you give it up it is kind of academic if the person who you gave it to screws you over on any promises made as you can’t really take it back.

                      There were possible ways that Maori could have taken control back though.

                      They could have bred faster and died later than the number of non-Maori arriving here. Then when the Crown handed the control of the Government over to representatives of the people they would have been in the majority and could control the State.

                      Alternatively they could have won any of the numerous Wars with the British during the 19th Century and declared themselves independent and got some other nations to recognise that and stop the British from trying to reclaim Sovereignty by force.

                      They failed to do any of these options which means they are limited to the moral persuassion argument. There is no legal option open to them.

                    • Gosman

                      @ Fran.

                      Irrelevant. The British, and other nations, recognised what the Maori were signing away was their Sovereignty. That is all the British needed. It really doesn’t matter if the Maori say we only wanted to be ‘governed’ , (whatever that vague term actually means) by you.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      All very fascinating I’m sure, but

                      I’m asking what you think , based on your commitment to right wing values, and contracts and what not. What political position do you take. Where do you start from, in answering the question; What should we do?

                      based on your values, where do you, Gosman, stand in the debate?

                      Seems to me that if you don’t stand with iwi then your stated values aren’t worth a bucket of piss Gos, but that does leave the question of why you think it doesn’t matter what iwi thought they were getting.

                      You can step outside the argument and say, ‘oh it doesn’t matter because facts on the ground changed everything'; but, when you say that it has to be resolved politically, you pretty much have to step back into the argument and say what your values lead you to believe ought to happen.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Though I must say it’s fascinating to see you come right and say that you view the treaty as a contract, and that one party to that contract’s views, (about the nature of that contract), just don’t matter.

                    • Gosman

                      I’ve already stated where I stand on this issue in my reply to mickeysavage. You must have missed that.

                      My point about the Maori position is that when they gave away sovereignty the way they did then it really doesn’t matter what they thought they were protecting.

                      Thre only authority they have for protection of their rights is a moral case. They have been reasonably successful recently using this to get acknowledgment of past wrongs and a certain amount of compensation for the contract breech.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Yeah, I read that, but I was after some clarity.

                      You made some pretty words about sanctity of contract, and how, on your honour as a right winger and by the hairs on your chinny chin chin, of course you think the treaty should be honoured.

                      And in the next paragraph, (and in this subthread), you introduced this idea that what iwi thought about what was/is in the ‘contract’ just ‘doesn’t matter’.

                      Now I’m just silly lefty of course, so I’m having a hard time understanding what ‘sancitity of contract’ means in a context where one parties beliefs about the contract don’t matter. That’s what I’m seeking clarity on. Is it a sanctified contract, cherished in the bosom of right wing thought, if one side can dictate what the other sides terms really are? Define this ‘contract’ for me.

                      And you point about moral force or what have you also alludes me. Pretty sure the Treaty can still be used din court. Pretty sure it carries legal weight. And even without the treaty, iwi have recourse to UN agreements that we have signed up to, fully enforceable by the courts in NZ.

                    • Gosman

                      The two positions are not irreconcilable.

                      The Maori signed away their sovereignty. That is a given. It is implicitedly acknowledged by the rest of the world in that the NZ Government, as opposed to a collection of Iwi, is recognised as having Sovereignty over the country by international bodies and most other nations

                      The Maori chiefs who signed the treaty did not get their rights codified in any constitutionsal manner. They signed up for the British system of Government which, unfortunately for them, allows the Crown an awful lot a lee way in determining such matters such as rights.

                      Essentially they have only a moral case to be made for honouring the Treaty. In this they have my support for much of their position especially around property rights and protection and promotion of their culture and language.

                      I also don’t think their moral argument case extends as far as some in the Maori communtiy would like to think. I personally think they start losing the argument when they start pushing for rights that were unknown when the treaty was signed. Hence I believe a strong case can be made for acknowledgment and recompense for land confiscations but I am unsupportive of claims like the one over Water rights.

                      However I am even cool with them receiving such rights if they become transferable. If they are able to sell such rights on the open market then it might even be a good thing.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Not seeing how ‘sanctity of contract’ informs that reasoning Gos.

                      Starting to think it’s a bit of a myth you like to tell yourself.

                      Try again perhaps.

                      How about start with this…

                      “The crown’s moral claim to sovereignty in NZ is based on …”

                      And remember, ‘sanctity of contract’.

                    • Gosman

                      Morality and Sovereignty have very little to do with each other.

                      Tell me what is moral about Sovereignty being vested in a single individual by dint of an accident of birth and a very bloody history?

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Nothing at all, which is why the english civil war happened. You may not have noticed Gos, but the monarch doen’t have much in the way of sovereign power. We have aconstitutional monarchy, rather than an absolute one.

                      Pretty convinced now that you aren’t one who should be lecturing iwi about the system they signed up for, or the manner in which they did so, or what any of that means today.

                      Also pretty sure you aren’t going to clarify the issue about what you mean by sanctity of contract either, with regard to what duty one party has to the other.

                      Oh well. Always figured it was not much more than pretty sounding words. Bit sad to have it confirmed in your case Gos.

                    • Gosman

                      I think I have detailed my view of what it means around the contract that was signed being sacrosanct. This means that the Crown has a moral obligation to attempt to honour the nature of what was signed. The question becomes what was the nature of what was signed. I have a more limited view of this than perhaps you do.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      This means that the Crown has a moral obligation to attempt to honour the nature of what was signed. The question becomes what was the nature of what was signed. I have a more limited view of this than perhaps you do.

                      huzzah! We are possibly getting somewhere.

                      Now, when working out the nature of what was signed, is what iwi thought, and think today, relevant. You have previoulsy said that it is not important, or doesn’t matter. You can revise this if you like, as it seems to be based not on the sanctity of contract principle, but on a ‘facts on the ground one’.

                      That latter case amounts to, ‘we cheated you fair and square, and now we’ve got all the guns, so let’s renogiate and see what you can get’ which doesn’t seem too sanctimonious to me.

                      So how do we decide what the deal was?

                      I say we let the courts decide. My opinion, or yours, about whether or not it includes water or what-have-you are not relevant. If they want to avoid court, they can negotiate of course. The base position however, as far as I can tell, is that unless the crown can show that it took possession of something legally and explicitly, then it remains in native title. Seems logical, no?

                    • Fran

                      Again rather large problem with your thesis. My understanding is that where a treaty is delivered in both the indigenous language and that of the colonisers then it is the indigenous version which has standing in international law so whether the British thought that Maori were handing over sovereignty is irrelevant. It is what Maori thought they were handing over that matters.

                    • Gosman

                      Name me one country or international authority that disputes the sovereignty of the Crown in NZ then.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Tell me why those opinions should interfere in the sanctity of contract.

          • tracey 1.1.1.1.2

            you are right the maori are seeking to enforce their legal rights not ask for special treatment as frequently implied by those from the right.

      • mickysavage 1.1.2

        So Gossie

        If your family owned land for centuries until one day it was taken off them by force even though the taker had previously signed a contract saying they would not do this, would you feel just a little bit aggrieved? 

        • Gosman 1.1.2.1

          I don’t know why you are addressing this to me. I’m a firm believer in the Treaty being essentially a contract guarranteeing certain property and cultural rights in exchange for Sovereignty. Contracts and property rights are sacrosanct in right wing politics.

          The only real question becomes though what property rights were protected and the degree of sovereignty that was given up. I tend to take the view that the property rights being protected do not include modern day definitions of terms like Water rights and that the sovereignty the Maori passed overwas absolute. The British crown has the ultimate authority in terms of determining the law of the land.

          • tracey 1.1.2.1.1

            well, i think we would all agree the water was already here before the treaty of waitangi and just because its use has changed doesnt change rights. I still own my house even if someone can make more money turning it into a restaurant.

            You might want to read up on contra proferentum to get a better understanding of the british law around the treaty and interpretation.

            • Gosman 1.1.2.1.1.1

              Changing use does impact on rights. It would be foolish to argue otherwise. The State has altered all sorts of property rights over the years due to changing usage.

      • Draco T Bastard 1.1.3

        People on the right are more interested in economic freedoms.

        No they’re not, or, to be more precise, they want economic freedom for themselves while everyone else is forced to work to make them richer.

        • Gosman 1.1.3.1

          In your opinion.

          How’s your effort at overthrowing the status quo going?

          Have you done anything practical on this front? Did you at least think about the idea of setting up a website to attract like minded people? There must be at least half a dozen of you out there.

          • tracey 1.1.3.1.1

            a majority thought the earth was flat, so is your point that nothing must ever change if the majority think its right

            • Gosman 1.1.3.1.1.1

              No that is not my opinion. I don’t know why you would think it would be.

              • McFlock

                swings and roundabouts, or pendulumous.
                       
                ’tis true we’re in a bit of an intellectual regression, like a miniNZ Dark Age, but I have faith in human nature. The pendulum will swing back to the left when people encounter enough ugly scrotes like Gos. 

                • Gosman

                  The level of your intellectual arrogance is a wonder to behold McFlap. I wonder how you deal with your abnormally large ego. It must get in the way of certain normal human interactions a lot of the time.

                  • McFlock

                    The arrogance is in someone who believes that history will suddenly change its practise of expansion:retrenchment of human rights and egalitarianism.
                          
                    Not that I’d expect you to know a damned thing about history.
                               
                    Even with the broadest regard for history, you are a fool. Several hundred years ago political and economic power was centred around a very small proportion of the population in any developed society you care to mention. Now, this power is much less concentrated, but becoming moreso again.
                         
                    For us to be swinging to the right, yet still be farther left than historical societies, we need to have swung farther left. So a pendulum analogy is apt. You fucking trool. 

            • Murray Olsen 1.1.3.1.1.2

              It wouldn’t matter to right wingers if either a majority or a minority thought the world were flat. They’d go along with whichever view made their paymasters richer. They have absolutely no belief in the sanctity of contract either, unless they gain more from holding to the contract. The right has no values except for that which benefit the rich, with who is rich being defined more narrowly by the day.

          • Draco T Bastard 1.1.3.1.2

            In your opinion.

            When you consider what actually happens under the policies that they want then no, it’s not opinion – it’s simple fact. Under their policies the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the poor are forced to work to make them richer as they have no other means of supporting themselves because the rich have control of all the wealth.

      • mike e 1.1.4

        Goose the people on the right are against economic freedom all they want is monopolies.
        And are racist because they can gather votes by taking the side of the bigoted impoverished . playing them off against each other.
        If Maori had their rights conferred instead of denied 172 years ago you would be picking on some other racial minority.

        • Gosman 1.1.4.1

          Once again you have a mindless brain fart on to the comments section of a post at The Standard. Your parents must be so very proud of you.

          • mike e 1.1.4.1.1

            Anything you say goosstepper.
            Doe that mean you parents weren’t proud of you.
            So you joined the neo liberal cult of the emotionally alouf.
            Quite happy to have young Kiwis go of and die in an unwinable war.

      • Polish Pride 1.1.5

        Gosman – do not delude yourself Whether you are talking Right or Left in this system BOTH sides are about the ‘Redistribution of Wealth’.
        The Left through taxation to give to the poor and pay for any number of services they think should be provided.
        The Right through changes to Labour laws removing workers rights, coupled with a fairly open immigration policy that when combined (or even on their own result in downward pressure on wages
        or through Corporate welfare paid for via taxes
        Or through restructures of organisations that cull middle management and worker positions.
        All of these Right wing policies are about redistribution of wealth upwards to CEOs and shareholders.
        So do not delude yourself and say it is about wanting economic freedom.

        • Gosman 1.1.5.1

          Do you have any actual evidence that this is their purpose or is this part of the giant right wing conspiracy that means only those in the know have the actual detail? I suspect it is merely your biased ideological view point only.

          • Polish Pride 1.1.5.1.1

            You mean apart from living in our society for many many years and seeing it with my own eyes and working it out with an intelligent mind and the ability to think for myself.
            It is common sense – Do you think each side does it for fun!?! or just for the hell of it perhaps!?!

            Interesting that on understanding this I gave up Right vs Left a few years ago. I now prefer to run with a little concept I like to call ‘right vs wrong’ It seems to serve me pretty will in sniffing out BS in this world.

            What sort of propoganda is they do it cause the want ‘Economic Freedom’!?! They do it because they want more money, more wealth!

            • Gosman 1.1.5.1.1.1

              So no real evidence then. Just your personal opinion.

              • Polish Pride

                What are you after? Perhaps you’d like to see the financials of companies that have employed such practices so that you can see the increase in profit. Perhaps you aren’t aware of the multi million dollar salaries now paid to CEOs.
                I forgot one too – offshoring company operations does the same thing.
                Do you actually believe there is no redistribution of wealth occuring when these activities occur happens.
                Why change labour laws, why remove Penal rates back in the day if not to reduce the cost of wages and provide more profit to the shareholder….
                Why have CEOs Salaries been able to increase so significantly in my lifetime.
                Before you keep going down this track I have been in business (still am). I have worked on projects for companies to enable them to do this so I am speaking from a little thing called personal experience with my observations.

                Do you have the ability to think for yourself? Here’s a concept for you to consider..

                Do you know that your TV works because you sit there and can observe that it is on, or is that just your opinion.

                Here’s another – you’d probably be a lot smarter if you got rid of it.

                • Gosman

                  Increased profits are bad are they? Interesting idea. Since you think you have a handle on this I’m sure you will be able to inform me what the average profit growth for NZ based companies has been over the past few years. This would actually go someway towards providing evidence for your view point. Surely you aren’t making your claims without researching this.

                  • Polish Pride

                    What so to help illustrate your argument you pick the years in which we are sufferring an economic downturn! Seriously! how dishonest can you get?
                    The average has nothing to do with it as some companies have employed these practices some have not. You would have to only look at the results from companies that have employed these practices. Or perhaps been in companies that have done this, or owned one yourself and seen the results first hand. Check, check.
                    I am not sure if you are purposely avoiding questions put to you such as

                    Do you actually believe there is no redistribution of wealth occuring when these activities occur happens?

                    Or whether you are purposely framing your responses to be void of ‘common sense’ on the issue but either way you are doing a stellar job.

                    Oh and if you do want an actual opinion on this matter. There is no better way tho understand these concepts than having been involved and having experienced them and their results first hand. But then I am sure you have at least some personal experience in this area.. right!! Please at least tell me you have experience! Or is it just ‘your’ opinion you are relying on to counter my argument..!?!

                    • Gosman

                      So what years would you prefer to pick then? Give me a ten year range where you show sustained increase in return on Shareholder assets for NZ companies.

                    • Gosman

                      Heck, you can even choose a dozen or so companies that have followed the approach that you abhore so much to compare. I suspect you will find it difficult to find many whose growth in Profits was much more than the overall economic growth of the country as a whole over a ten year period.

                    • Polish Pride

                      I suspected you would avoid all my questions for you so I’ll take that as confirmation you have zip experience and we are running on your opinion alone for the counter arguement.
                      But how about we don’t go for a 10 year range how about we pick one company or better yet how about I give you a list to pick from. You go away and research them an come back and tell me what you find. But look at the companies evolution since it began not just 10 years.

                      Exxon Mobil
                      Walmart
                      Chevron
                      Conoco Phillips
                      General Motors
                      General Electric
                      Microsoft
                      Nike
                      Goldman Sachs
                      Monsanto

                      After all we’d want to look at the most successful companies in the world and the practices they have employed to prove or disprove the validity of this point wouldn’t we.

                      oh and pay particular attention to the oil companies who increased their profits during the economic downturn. Feel free to check out a few of the largest banks in the world while you’re at it.

                      Seems you have a lot to learn about statistics too. Statistics are often more interesting for what they don’t show more so than what they do. Always keep that in mind it will serve you well when presented with stats from the left, or when presenting stats from the right.

                    • Polish Pride

                      Btw No one said I ‘abhore’ anything! It is simply that I undestand what both sides try to do and why the Left vs Right paradigm as a result can never actually solve any of the real problems society is faced with. Once people let go of Left vs Right only then will we start to make progress.

                    • framu

                      polish – dont worry too much about trying to argue with gossamer

                      Despite any evidence you put up – it would never engage honestly anyway – it will always shift the goalposts and deny that the sky is blue

                    • Gosman

                      I don’t think many of these are NZ companies. I thought you stated there was evidence for this in NZ. Is this not the case now?

                      BTW how does Microsoft exploit their staff to increase profits?

                    • Polish Pride

                      Thanks for the heads up Framu – I particularly liked your use of the word ‘it’ in reference to this fruitloop :)

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      Polish Pride, There’s really no point in engaging Gosman – he really won’t change his mind no matter what evidence or argument you put to him and he won’t supply any evidence himself to support his own beliefs.

                    • Gosman

                      So you’ve given up defending your frankly ridiculous asertion about increase of profits have you?

                    • Polish Pride

                      “I don’t think many of these are NZ companies. I thought you stated there was evidence for this in NZ. Is this not the case now?”

                      Then you thought wrong Gosman. Left vs Right and the redistribution of wealth is happening in many places around the world. I never mentioned that the paradigm was soley at work in New Zealand. It is not.
                      But if you’d like an NZ example. My company has increased turnover twofold and has increased profit in the last three years. we have ‘restructured’ twice in this time.
                      If you’d like one that you can research try Infratil.

                      “BTW how does Microsoft exploit their staff to increase profits?”

                      By structuring their business offshore in a way that they pay significantly less tax in their country of origin resulting in a need to tax the working class or salary and wage earners at a higher rate allowing them to increase profits and pay CEOs higher salaries.

                      Google Microsoft restructure – the first 4 of 5 results talk about staffing ‘restructures’.

                      Then google Microsoft Offshore – the first two results talk about shipping jobs overseas.

                      I am beginning to think that you live in a bubble sheltered from how the world really works.

                      All so in case you haven’t figured it out yet it was game set and match a long time ago..
                      Go back home and play with the other kids on your block sunshine.
                      You are now just wasting my time!

                    • felix

                      “I particularly liked your use of the word ‘it’ in reference to this fruitloop”

                      Yes, it has never produced any evidence that it isn’t a bot so according to its own rules it is fair to assume that it is one.

                    • Gosman

                      I’m just testing how robust Polish Pride’s view point was DTB. The answer is not very robust at all.

                      Made any effort to take over the Government today?

                    • Gosman

                      Pretty damning that you got shown up by a bot then felix. That kind of speaks volumes about your abilities, or lack there of.

                    • felix

                      Yawn.

                    • Gosman

                      Bravo. The most useful contribution you have made to a discussion in quite a while felix.

                    • Gosman

                      Wow Polish Pride. I did take a look at Microsoft and it looks like their profit margin has been drifting DOWNWARDS over the past few years.

                      http://ycharts.com/companies/MSFT/chart#series=type:company,id:MSFT,calc:gross_profit_margin&zoom=10&startDate=&endDate=&format=real&recessions=false

                    • Polish Pride

                      Gosman – Yes, that would be as a result of the economic downturn. You know the one that the entire world living outside your bubble know about.

                      Profit going up or down alone is not cannot be used as the sole basis for determining whether or not companies have employed those practices to redistribute wealth upwards. Like I said look at their entire history see if they have employed the practices I talked about bubble boy.
                      Then when your done their look at the other companies I gave you including Infratil.

                    • Polish Pride

                      Bubble go take a look at comment number 27….:)

      • blue leopard 1.1.6

        Gosman

        “People on the right are more interested in economic freedoms.”

        Inequality creates lack of economic freedom for large numbers of people, so perhaps you should qualify this statement to make it more correct:

        “People on the right are more interested in economic freedoms for themselves regardless of anyone else”

        • OneTrack 1.1.6.1

          People on the right tend to be more interested in freedom. People on the left, not so much.

          Fify

          • blue leopard 1.1.6.1.1

            @OneTrack

            Bollocks, thats simply a form of propaganda you are spouting there.

            Correction:

            People on the right tend to be more interested in their own freedom regardless of the effect such has on others’ freedoms

    • Dr Terry 1.2

      Now prepare for another Gosman controlled comments column! Suggest you look for something more relevant and interesting.

      • Dr Terry 1.2.1

        The above was intended to appear at the top!

      • framu 1.2.2

        i agree – c’mon folks. Not that hes new to this tactic – but gossamer is just doing a pete g.

        Ok sometimes it present just to good a target to resist – but as the saying goes – DNFTT

  2. ad 2

    Here’s a hope: The Orewa Speech vs Foreshore March Spring Tide – Neap Tide binge-purge cycle has gone. Key whistled as loud as he could to race during the Waitangi Tribunal water debate and fewer dogs came running.

    They still ran to him for sure. But fewer.

    I (hopefully) predict that this campaign will not have as much impact as it once would have.

  3. Dominic 3

    This whole thing has got me in a rage, but not for the reasons Ansell wanted. The way he says:

    “We should be saying ‘Look, show a bit more gratitude and get your hands back in your pockets, stop expecting money from other people, look to yourselves’,”

    With the same notions of the Kiwi/Iwi campaign, talking about “we” in a way which asserts pakeha as the dominant norm and Maori (or anything else) as different and the “other”. It’s like when people say “we are all New Zealanders” but what they really mean is ‘if you look like me you are’.

    What scares me is the fact that so many New Zealanders think like this and don’t know their own history. Resurrect Michael King!!

    • tracey 3.1

      Why is it so hard for some to understand the difference between enforcing/testing a legal right and asking for a handout.

      • Polish Pride 3.1.1

        No problem with that statenment but more than that is going on. When I grew up with a very good dose of Maori culture I was told that Maori do not consider themselves owners of the land or anything else. They are the caretakers of it and it is more correct to say it is they who belong to the Land not the other way around. This was something I was very proud of. It is no longer the case as now it is all about ownership. This is however a product of the system we have today in my view.

        That said if all Maori were benefiting then I might be comfortable with it but most Maori do not see any benefits from Treaty Settlements. The Cororate Elite Maori see plenty…

        • Gosman 3.1.1.1

          Maori caretakers of the land? Hmmmmm…. Not sure they did a great job of that considering the amount of forest cover lost under their ‘care’ and the fact they killed off the largest land animal in the country.

          • mike e 3.1.1.1.1

            goosestepper read the title of the page.
            Maori have changed just like the rest of us have changed but you are still the fermenter of cynicism and racism just proving the title of this column.

            • Gosman 3.1.1.1.1.1

              And you once again offer nothing to this debate except childish personal attacks on me.

              Perhaps you should learn some other ways of expressing opinions. In the real world attacking people personally tends to backfire and be unproductive (although you could get a job in a political campaign designing silly attack ads I suppose. They would be spectactularly laugable I suspect).

              • mike e

                So whats your angle goose offering nothing but racist forment and thinking that isn’t out of date you continually denegrate just about everybody who present hard facts including your own facts which have largely backfired.
                You are just a pathetic tory wind up Tr oll who can’t help himself but keep up boderline cyniscism.

                • Gosman

                  Where have I formented any racist views? I take objection to unsubstatiated claims such as this.

                  Are you going to back your allegation up or is this another one of your baseless cowardly personal attacks?

                  • King Kong

                    I would let it slide Gosman.

                    From the way he writes I think he might be retarded.

                    • mike e

                      that would put me in your league KK although their might be hope for you yet as the missing link has been redefined. Neanderthals

                    • Gosman

                      I suspect as much as well. Either that or he is being home schooled by some radical leftist family and has recently discovered the internet.

                      Edit: And as if on cue mike eeeeeee posts and provides evidence for the retard hypothesis.

                    • mike e

                      Whats this personal attacks thats all you have goose.
                      Above you claim you aren’t a racist but always have to have a we dig
                      just enough not to offend any one but Maori.
                      Cyniscism is all your about nothing more nothing less.

                    • Gosman

                      No evidence of any racist statements from me then? I thought not.

          • Polish Pride 3.1.1.1.2

            The majority of deforestation came at the hands of Europeans..

            • Gosman 3.1.1.1.2.1

              So? I don’t believe NZ European’s have ever made a case that their culture has a special affinity with the land and that they are the guardians of it. Individual ones may have but not the entire culture and certainly not in the 19th and early 20th Century where most of the forest cover was removed.

            • mike 3.1.1.1.2.2

              You are new here PP but you’ll quickly identify the time-wasting conversation-hijacking wannabe provocateur trolls like Gosman and King Kong. Just as quickly you’ll realize that engaging them in reasoned debate is pointless, you’d be better off banging your head against a wall. Then you’ll see that any obligation you might have felt to response to their puerile taunts is purely illusory. Best is to ignore, or join the conversation somewhere else.

  4. ChrisH 4

    Having Louis Crimp involved will discredit it from day one. Did you see him on the TV with that female reporter? He shouldn’t be allowed out, IMHO, an opinion that Steve Braunias also appears to share… http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/opinion/steve-braunias/6989030/The-Secret-Diary-of-Louis-Crimp

    • shorts 4.1

      agree – Crimp is toxic… his involvement will enrage Kiwis – against the campaign and rightly so

      • mike 4.1.1

        This guy? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10806938 He’s like a cartoon character called Mr B.Got or something.

        “Act’s president, Chris Simmons, said he disagreed with Mr Crimp on some areas but respected his right to have a view. He said he saw Maori culture as “part of our culture”.
        “One of the beauties of the Act Party is we believe everyone should have their say.
        “That’s his view.”
        Mr Simmons said the party would take Mr Crimp’s money again.
        Mr Banks, Act’s sole MP, did not respond to calls.”

        Good job Act, go ahead and grab another nail for your own coffin.

        Still, Simmons must know that his party will evaporate come 2014, so I guess why wouldn’t they squeeze another $125,000 out of this narcissistic racist wanker while they can? If this fool actually thinks that John Banks really gives a toss about ‘doing something about the Maaris’ when in fact his only role is licking John Key’s face, then he deserves to be strung along.

  5. chris73 5

    Didn’t think they needed a campaign, the Maori elite are doing a fine job of it themselves.

  6. ChrisH 6

    Oh yeah this too: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10807572 . I’m still not convinced that Crimp isn’t a made-up character, an incredibly dry pisstake in the style of John Clark, only more extended like the Yes Men or Ern Malley http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ern_Malley : “Let’s create this red-neck businessman from Invercargill … no, Palmerston North … no, Hastings … oh alright Invercargill it is then!” Are Farrar and Ansell in on the Act (no pun intended?) OMG what if they are not?

    • tc 6.1

      Just another Hollowman so yes he’s is sort of made up of a shell with no substance beyond racism and enjoyment at creating division.

    • aj 6.2

      Unfortunately he is real, but I can assure you he is widely disliked in the far south because of the way he conducted business dealings a few decades ago.

    • weka 6.3

      Nah, Crimp’s been around for a very long time. People have posted in comments about his history before, if you want to look it up.

  7. I’ll point out that it is entirely possible to write about something uncritically without it being a tacit endorsement. I wrote an essay sometime ago about the rise of the Nazi party but that doesn’t make me tangentially supportive of the Nazi’s. 

    Read in that what you will re: Farrar (I haven’t actually read his post) but not critical =/= tacit endorsement. 

    • Te Reo Putake 7.1

      Wrong. Your essay was a critical analysis (I’m assuming that you got a pass mark for it). Farrar has simply posted the Ansell filth uncritically. I see that they have recruited Rodney Hide to run the lines from another angle, too.

      • You’ve read my essay? Weird considering it was never submitted anywhere and was written as a practice exercise for myself and myself only. Interesting.

        But writing about something doesn’t imply support or endorsement.
        A description of a persons position does not mean endorsement. 

        I don’t agree with the current asset sale program but i could easily write something uncritical about it. 

        • Te Reo Putake 7.1.1.1

          Weird that you don’t know what ‘essay’ means, TC. And even weirder that you spend your spare time writing uncritical essays about N@zi’s. 

          • TheContrarian 7.1.1.1.1

            I know what an essay is.

            I set myself a writing exercise before I started a semester on WW2. I was out of practice so gave myself a writing exercise. Not really that unusual. 

            But the point is you can write about something without taking a critical position on it. 

            • bbfloyd 7.1.1.1.1.1

              Your deliberate naivete would be charming little conti….But then, when reality is applied to your logic, that naivete turns to cynicism….

              Even those who inhabit that tory dream world so popular amongst conservative “intellectuals” understand that a review of a blatantly political tract can’t be “neutral” unless it is written as an educational exercise… Which would be an invitation to the students reading it to an analysis…

              David Farrar is NOT writing his pieces as an effort to educate…. He writes tory propaganda for the consumption of the kind of racist that supports national…..

              Insulting the intelligence of people on this site does nothing more than reinforce your already very low standing with thinking people…..

              I still have the number of that therapist i recommended to you earlier… The sooner you deal with your demons, the better, for all concerned…

      • tc 7.1.2

        Wondered were the yellow suited servant of the Hollowmen had gone, no surprises here.

        Maybe the MSM can ask him some searching questions on behalf of akl ratepayers about the true cost of amalgamation that him and Shonkey dumped on them and ran away leaving the likes of Brewer and Fletcher to undermine the Mayor as Jonny ‘washed up on the’ Banks missed out.

        • OneTrack 7.1.2.1

          You mean the left wing mayor that can’t see anything that he doesn’t want to spend ratepayers money on?

        • weka 7.1.3.1

          And there we have our own PG supporting Ansell’s referendum.
           
          http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/08/critic_on_treatygate.html#comment-1008645
           
          Good on toad for getting in first.

          • TheContrarian 7.1.3.1.1

            If the is the article in question it would seems Farrar is actually commenting on the response by Critic, not the campaign itself which renders the mention of Farrar in this posting irrelevant. 

            • Gosman 7.1.3.1.1.1

              Trouble is this is The Standard. That means many of the commentators can’t resist bringing Farrar into any topic. It could be about Rugby Union and I’m sure someone here will try and make the case that David Farrar is evil personified due to his position on the topic.

            • Galeandra 7.1.3.1.1.2

              He’s also indicating tacit consent to its racism with his innocent musings about signature collecting and the downstream outcomes of a CIR:

              ” I guess the Greens will not be using taxpayer funding to hire staff to colect signatures for this one!

              But Labour and the Greens are insisting that a CIR trumps an election mandate. So if this CIR does happen, and gets majority support, will they adopt it as policy?”

              So he is giving uncritical acceptance of the project; ‘silence’ giving implicit ‘consent’. For him it’s just a laugh, a chance to poke borax at the Greens.

              I guess his racism is just like your facism, there but mostly below the radar.

              Be more self-critical with your essay writing.

          • mike e 7.1.3.1.2

            I’ll have to give PG some credit their he stood up to the racist comments and explained himself quiet well good on you pete.

          • mike e 7.1.3.1.3

            further down kb pg actually takes them apart Weka.I think or hope he was bringing their tactics out to show people their skulduggery.

        • felix 7.1.3.2

          I think Farrar has pretty well covered himself by just re-publishing someone else’s article uncritically, which is quite different to, for example, re-publishing Ansell’s original announcement uncritically.

          (Which, incidentally, is exactly what our friend Pete George has done in the comment weka linked to above.)

  8. Vivienne 8

    We have a Human Rights Commission in NZ. We already see that NACT is breaching the Univeral Declaration on Human Rights which we as a Nation are charged to uphold.

    If this is true and they run it. What will be done to counter it?

  9. xtasy 9

    Well, I would not be quite so optimistic about this, just have a look at the support Rodney Hide already gets from the hard-nosed hate brigade for his attack on the Waitangi Tribunal, Maori Council and iwis:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10826283

    Something dressed up as that kind of “criticism” appears to get quite some appeal. Society is divided, many are not doing well, so a scape-goat is looked for and easily found.

    There is a hard core, but there are also others very willing to join in on finger pointing, name calling and even racist attacks. Same like “bene bashing”, it is sadly a sign of the times in broken NZ.

    • weka 9.1

      I liked this comment
       

      Lloyd (Takaka)
      09:24 AM Sunday, 12 Aug 2012
      Rodney Hide calling for an end to a gravy train – now I’ve read everything.
       
  10. prism 10

    Eddie – You’ve transposed letters – it’s Orewa.

  11. Jim Nald 11

    Some of our publicly respected NZers, from a range of ethnicities, and all progressive Parliamentarians should speak out and exhort us all to rise up to be better, to do better, echoing the words of our national anthem:

    “Let our cause be just and right

    From dissension, envy, hate,
    And corruption guard our state,
    Make our country good and great

    … love and truth to [all]“

  12. Tom 12

    Is Crimp a caricature ?

    The Southland Times describes him as the ‘Godfather of Pokies’ in Invercargill.

    It raises the prospect of this campaign being funded by deep-pocketed gambling interests,
    who may themselves be proxies for others.

    It certainly deserves scrutiny, if not a Commission of Inquiry ..

    • aj 12.1

      He diverted pokie profits from one of his bars into his own pockets, when running as an ACT candidate in the…..1990’s? … I believe this was widely reported at the time. Need we say anymore?

      • aj 12.1.1

        From:

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/opinion/6161056/Editorial-A-bit-rich-Louis

        Mr Crimp is in no position to rail, with any integrity, against the foundation’s use of pokie proceeds.

        He has, himself, been one of the grandfathers of the pokies industry in Invercargill, albeit in rivalry with the trust. So his contempt can hardly stem from holding the machines themselves to be an intolerable social harm.

        Far from overbrimming with sympathy for the problems of pokie addiction, he wrote to our public opinion column in April referring witheringly to “the suckers who addict themselves to poker machines”.

        Much as he criticises the foundation for “making donations to doubtful charities” it has never been pinged for doing so. In fact, the ILT skites, and not without evidence, that it is regarded by governmental watchdogs as a role model for returning proceeds to the community.

        By shabby contrast it is Mr Crimp who has been caught up in notorious and inglorious misuses of pokie funds. This was in the 1990s, and involved decisions so imperious that they offended rules that were less strict than they are now.

        The Southland Pool Players’ Club, upon whose executive Mr Crimp had been a member, dispensed the money from pokies at one of Mr Crimp’s most high-profile establishments, Players’ pool hall, for a team of nine members, including Mr Crimp, to attend a pool competition in Australia. This was just part of what Internal Affairs inspectors described as “gross misapplication of proceeds”.

        Undaunted, as he so often is, by official disapproval, Mr Crimp had then stuck his hand out for Players’ pokie profits to help pay the 1998 election expenses of Southland Action, a group of candidates which he led into the Invercargill City Council election race.

        It came as scant surprise when Internal Affairs wanted money repaid, and stripped Players of its gaming licence.

    • Gosman 12.2

      You are the Green party personified and I claim my 100 dollars.

  13. KJT 13

    Using social insurance/welfare recipients as New Zealand’s Jews is obviously not working as well as expected.

  14. KJT 14

    As a socialist I disagree with birthright separatism.

    Apart from what should be everyone’s birthright in a country like ours. Enough to basically live on, feed, house and look after ones health and reasonably participate in society. A minimum income..

    Everything else should have to be earned according to ones contribution to society.

    This is closer to original Maori ideas of property, and European Ideas of the commons (Such as the “Charter of the Forest) than current arrangements.

    RWNJ’s, however are totally inconsistent in asking for “one rule for all”.
    They expect property rights they have gained in the “Ovarian lottery” (Hat tip to W Buffet) to be respected, but not those of Maori.
    When private individuals are allowed to make money out of what was formerly Maori “Commons” then Maori are quite correct in asking for a share. “One law for all”
    If we allow Pakeha to hang onto ill gotten inherited gains then it is a moral imperative to at least try and compensate Maori in some way for the loss of land, they owned.

    A better resolution to the FS and SB may have been to say all FS and SB is “commons”, with local Iwi rights of guardianship, and compensate both Maori and Pakeha owners accordingly. “Again One law for all”. Instead of a unilateral abrogation of Maori rights only.

    • Polish Pride 14.1

      “Everything else should have to be earned according to ones contribution to society”

      As long as people hold onto this type of notion the society we live in will always have its have’s and have nots. The gap between the two will be determined by the system of the day and what it allows. Currently our system is geared towards ‘Profit and the accumulation of capital above all else’. Maori are simply now playing the game with the rules allowed as set down by the current system.

      “A better resolution to the FS and SB may have been to say all FS and SB is “commons”, with local Iwi rights of guardianship, and compensate both Maori and Pakeha owners accordingly. “Again One law for all”. Instead of a unilateral abrogation of Maori rights only.”

      Brilliant idea..!

      • KJT 14.1.1

        With a minimum income, and preventing accumulation of wealth over generations, you will have haves and more haves, not have nots.

        That resolution for the FS and SB was not my idea. I think it came from either P Sharples or Hone. I’ve always thought it was a good way of sorting it.

        Note that Maori, historically, have only claimed property rights on such things when private interests were given property rights. Such as fish farms in the sounds.

        • Polish Pride 14.1.1.1

          getting off topic but fail to see how you would prevent accumulation of wealth over generations in such a system..
          You already know my views on what the system should be …and probably best not to start again here :)

  15. captain hook 15

    just another claque of addle pated noo noo heads who think the ability to aquire money is the same thing as being intelligent.
    ansell and crimp are just guys with big heads and very small dicks.

  16. blue leopard 16

    Having viewed the amount of positive responses from the public to Holme’s obnoxious diatribe on this year’s Waitangi Day, compared to any response of horror over such racism, I do not feel confident that this approach of divide and rule re Pakeha and Maori won’t “work”.

    And if the intended approach this article speaks of is not illegal, it should be.

    • Gosman 16.1

      Free speech should be illegal should it? Interesting totalitarian view of the world you have if that is indeed your view point.

      • Polish Pride 16.1.1

        Speech that is designed to actively promote and foster hate….possibly yes.

      • blue leopard 16.1.2

        Gosman

        I suggested that oppressive moronic disinformation should be illegal

        Where do you get the “free speech” bit from??

        • Gosman 16.1.2.1

          Classic. I suspect you don’t even realise you shot yourself in the foot with that last comment.

          • blue leopard 16.1.2.1.1

            Gosman

            Lol…so, you are unable to put up any real argument toward how the intended approach this article speaks should be illegal then, I take it?

            Not surprised. There isn’t one

            • Gosman 16.1.2.1.1.1

              I don’t need to. It is you who obviously feels it should be illegal. I merely pointed out that this is a restriction on free speech. You confirmed that without even realising it which is the funny bit.

              • blue leopard

                Gosman

                I’m sorry, I am having problems following your logic; I am sure it probably makes sense to you, but to anyone else its…well….not apparent…

                You questioned whether free speech should be illegal.
                I suggested your comment was irrelevant

                There is no valid link between views that oppress and disinform others and the merits of protecting free speech.

                • UpandComer

                  You are saying that speech that in your opinion is ‘oppressive moronic disinformation” should be illegal.

                  That is the opposite of free speech, and in branding speech ‘illegal’ you are anti-free speech.

                  And you are making Gosman’s point, over and over.

                  It’s funny.

                  • blue leopard

                    UpandComer

                    Cheers for the clarification

                    On your terms I maybe making Gosman’s point over and over. However I make no connection with the rantings of morons with free speech at all.

                    Cheers to both you, UpandComer and Gosman, for providing me with the opportunity to repeat my point of view-being one of seeing no merit in disinformation that provides non-thinking punters the opportunity to justify their negative attitudes; when given half a chance to consider their attitudes they would realize they are based on misapprehension and misinformation-so many times; knowing that the more people familiarize themselves with a notion the more amenable to it they are likely to become to it.

                    Someone would have to come up with a good argument as to why anyone should have the right to speak messages promoting oppression, based simply on disinformation and a dearth of intelligence, in order to convince me that such as any merit. Neither you nor Gosman have achieved that.

                    • Gosman

                      Serious couple of questions for you blue leopard.

                      First up – Do you wonder why noone has leaped to your defence on this subject?

                      It isn’t as if you wouldn’t have a lot of support for a view that might make me look like a dick. As you have probably noticed there are lots of people here who attempt to do that.

                      It is quite possible that people have decided that I am so ridiculous on this point that it isn’t even worth responding to. However usually when someone else hgas come in to make the same point as me then someone can’t resist commenting.

                      Secondly – Can you find someone, anyone here, who agrees with you that your idea isn’t a restriction on free speech? It shouldn’t be that difficult really.

                    • McFlock

                      Nah Gos.
                         
                      It’s just that the deft way you ignored polish’s mention of hate speech indicates you don’t give a shit about discussing the topic.

                    • Murray Olsen

                      I agree with you, Blue Leopard. What you may have missed is that what Gooseman actually has is a medical condition called Tourette’s, which is not illegal, but should be treated as soon as possible.
                      I have no problem with not allowing racist trolls to publish on a blog. Truth be told, they love it because they can go on the RWNJ sites and say what bullies we all are. It gives their sad lives meaning, at least in their eyes.

                    • Gosman

                      Just to clarify here McFlack.

                      Do you agree with blue leopard about making this sort of thing illegal?

                      Quite a simple and straight forward question.

                    • McFlock

                      Depends on whether “oppressive moronic disinformation” is roughly synonymous with “hate speech”.
                           
                      Hate speech is definitely moronic, is generally disinformation (where it isn’t an outright lie it’s usually using incorrect emphasis to mislead), and is definitely oppressive.
                           
                      Should hate speech be banned? Oh yeah. Same reason incitement to riot and (to use the US Supreme Court example) yelling “fire” to cause panic is banned.
                          
                      I joyfully await your spectacular failure to comprehend this comment. 

                    • Jackal

                      blue leopard makes a good point that doesn’t really need to be supported… Although it should be said that Gosman, your argument that people should be free to say whatever they want is entirely idiotic! Likewise UpandComer saying blue leopard’s view that some speech should be illegal makes him/her anti free speech is completely stupid! Grow some brain cells please.

                      Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you should know that there’s some speech that’s against the law. Common limitations to freedom of expression are libel, slander, obscenity and incitement to commit a crime.

                      The Human Rights Act also limits freedom of expression about race, however this law is hardly ever upheld. It’s currently against the law to publish, broadcast or make a public statements ‘likely to incite hostility or ill-will against, or bring into contempt or ridicule, any group of persons on the ground of their colour, race, or ethnic or national origins’.

                      The continued racist disinformation that pervades many rightwing blogs and some mainstream media causes ill-will against people who simply don’t deserve it. Racism is a sickness, and the promotion of that sickness is illegal. In my opinion there’s no justification for trying to incite hatred against other people based on the colour of their skin. You’re being ridiculous to argue that racism is somehow justified Gosman.

                    • Gosman

                      Excellent!

                      I find many of your comments “oppressive moronic disinformation”,(I believe that is the term being used here). I could even make a case for it in relation to you demonising an entire section of society based on your own political bias. I expect to see you supporting my attempts to ban your hate speech forthwith.

                    • McFlock

                      That’s the shizzle! 
                                  
                      You had a complete brain freeze so decided to go “ooo, ooo no YOU are!”, did you? 
                           
                       I grant that I am frequently abrasive to the point of “oppressive”, but I think you might be evaluating the “moronic” and the “disinformation” through your own ego-tinted spectacles. 

                    • blue leopard

                      …Well I missed all that…

                      Jolly good show Gosman old chap.

                      What was your point?

                      You can’t credibly assert the comments you got in response to your questions were moronic nor misinformed (let alone disinfomation).

                      Quite the opposite

                      Sorry you feel oppressed, poor dear, yet hey! wasn’t it you who were supportive of oppressive messages toward others?…

                      … and…
                      …well….

                      I guess its not entirely inappropriate to suggest
                      ….whats good for the GOOSE is good for the gander…

                    • blue leopard

                      p.s

                      Had these informed people not responded and informed me of otherwise
                      I would have said that if spreading disinformative moronic oppressive messages came under the category of speech, I would have to say that I think that is f*ked and wouldn’t consider that I was for “free” speech without conditions.

                      I personally consider such DOESN’T comply with speech; more like belching or grunting-something that doesn’t require any intelligence and not a loss to one’s intelligent full expression not to emit

                    • Gosman

                      I’m loving this. All the lefties here who have fallen in to the trap of coming out as being anti-free speech.

                      I especially rate this contribution from McCluck as the best in terms of spectactularly missing the point

                      “…but I think you might be evaluating the “moronic” and the “disinformation” through your own ego-tinted spectacles. ”

                      Ahhhhhhh…. yes, yes I am.

                      How would this be any different to any other system set up to determine which speech is allowed or not?

                    • Polish Pride

                      I’m loving the way that you don’t have the intellectual capacity to formulate a decent response to my posts whether it be that hate speech should be illegal or that Right wing policy (just like left) is all about redistribution of wealth.

                      Generally when I start posting on a blog I like to find someone like yourself who can’t formulate a proper response and is often a tool towards other posters and make them soley for the purpose of my own amusement, ‘my biatch’. I haven’t been here long enough to decide who that should be, but so far you’ve done a stellar job of vying for that position bubbleboy.

                    • Gosman

                      Ah Polish Pride. I’m still waiting for you to respond to my actual EVIDENCE, (you know that thing you seem to have trouble providing), about Microsoft profit margin actually falling over the past 6 to 8 years.

                      Care to actually deal with facts rather than spouting your biased ideologicial opinions and claiming it is factually based?

                    • Polish Pride

                      Bubble Boy – go and look at the response already provided or is your grasp of the english language the same as your experience in business – Nil.
                      again as I said many many many things affect profit and the amount of profit a business makes in a given year or decade does not change the fact that the practices are the wealth redistribution of the right!
                      How do I know – actual experience, thought about it, did it got the results.
                      Now go away in your little bubble and look at Microsoft and the practices they have employed since their start rather than selecting a few years to try and support your seriously flawed argument that you have how much experience to back up. Oh yeah thats right – None!
                      Then go and research the other companies I gave you.
                      Or would you just like me to post the increase in profit from those companies to blow your BS out of the water.
                      They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You are a living breathing example of that Bubble boy, well done!

                    • McFlock

                      lol.
                               
                      Gos, nobody here has expressed an opinion that is anti free speech any more than the US Supreme Court. 
                             
                      Or are you in favour of incitement to riot?  

                    • blue leopard

                      In summary:

                      “Someone would have to come up with a good argument as to why anyone should have the right to speak messages promoting oppression, based simply on disinformation and a dearth of intelligence, in order to convince me that such as any merit. ”

                      Gosman: fail

                  • Gosman

                    @ Polish Pride. The data I provided on Microsoft was from around 2002 till just recently. It therefore covered a period well before the GFC.

                    As for me going away to research the topic, I’m not the one making up stuff to support a flimsy theory. If you want to be taken seriously then back up your views with hard evidence.

                    • Polish Pride

                      Bubble boy the link I just provided you was from about three weeks ago. :)

                    • Polish Pride

                      Oh and bubble Real world experience and real world examples as already provided trump your theory, because as established you have no experience or examples to disprove what I have told you and no sorry bubble sadly for you Microsofts profit going down doesn’t disprove it either, but feel free to keep trying. See its not about the amount of profit its about the activities you undertook to maximise what you did get…..another thing I have ‘experience’ with.

                      So lets recap shall we.
                      I have put forward a fact backed up by real world experience and real world examples.
                      You bubble… well lets see, you have well a theory (disproved by my real world experience and real world examples). and an internet link that doesn’t disprove my fact of right wing wealth redistribution.

                      I know its a hard lesson but take it on the chin, learn from it. Learn that it is best to know what you are talking about and that there’s no substitute for real world experience.
                      Unless of course something is totally rooted (like your arguement or more accurately lack of one) and you need to try something else. (also a little like our current system really).
                      As much as I’d love to continue this battle of wits with you bubble, you appear to be somewhat unarmed and it just wouldn’t be fair on you for me to do so.

              • Bastables

                Free speech . . . I do not think that word means what you think it means.
                In a civil society our laws make it illegal to conduct “libel” and “defamation.”
                A civil society should never have to bear a lier.
                I and NZ Law piss on your conflations of USA style free speech.

                For instance:
                “The principle that “tale-bearers are as bad as talemakers” was established in 1926 by Mr Justice Herdman at Auckland when a Gallipoli veteran, one Fox, was awarded £1,000 damages against W. Goodfellow, chairman of the New Zealand Cooperative Dairy Co. Ltd. The two disputants fell foul of each other over Dairy Board and Dairy Co. policy, and Goodfellow was found to have circulated fictions about the plaintiff’s war record, even going to the length of saying that Fox had been “reported twice as a spy”. This was a case in which the jury was asked to decide upon the question of malice. It returned a verdict of defamation with malice and, although the plaintiff had made no definite claim for special damage, he was awarded sums totalling £1,000 on three counts of malicious slander.”

                • blue leopard

                  @Bastables

                  +1
                  of a similar tone to how I would have answered Gosman had others not responded before me.

    • Polish Pride 16.2

      Apologies for the long post but this is a letter I wrote to Pita Sharples and it seems to have some relevance to the topic if you look at the message within.

      Dear Pita

      When I was growing up as a pakeha kid in Levin I had a good amount of immersion in Maori culture. My mother worked with Mob members helping them get into work and away from the gang.
      I was given the Maori name Tahu after an older Maori lady my mother worked with went to the Maori elders to get permission to give me a Maori name. Growing up this was something I was immensely proud of.
      My Uncle was Maori and unfortunately I went to his tangi at the age of 4.
      My cousin (the uncle aboves son) was part Maori and was the closest thing I have had to an older brother.
      At Levin North Primary School we had to select a hobbie. Their were about 10 to choose from. I chose Maori studies.
      I grew up with Maori culture as a big part of my life. I grew up with the Maori myths and Legends, Maui, Rangi, Tane.

      We moved down south to Kurow in North Otago when I was 10 years old. There were a lot less Maori kids and families down there but I easily became friends with them.
      In form 2 the subject of the Treaty of Waitangi came up. Picture a scene with one Maori kid in the class and the rest rural pakeha kids arguing that the treaty of Waitangi was rubbish, that it was no longer relevant etc. etc. It was me that stood up and defended Maori and the Treaty of Waitangi. It was me that said to these kids, imagine if someone came along now and confiscated your family farm. Would you not tell your children and your childrens children what had happened and that the confiscated land was rightfully yours and should be returned!?! would it not still matter 200 years later if their had been no approptiate redress for what had happened!?!

      Growing up I have been on many Maraes, I have been to many Hangis.
      I was immensely proud of the Maori culture and my connection to it.
      One of the things I was most proud of about Maori was when I was taught that Maori were custodians of the Land, of the Lakes, of the rivers and of the sea. That it was they who belonged to the land and not the other way around. To me this was what made me most proud of my connection with Maori and the fact that the Maori culture shaped the man I am today.

      Over the years however things have changed. I am still pakeha, but what has changed is that time and time again the message is driven home to all in Aotearoa and abroad that Maori culture belongs to Maori and only Maori, that the Maori language belongs to Maori and only Maori, that the seabed, that the lakes, the mountains and the rivers belong to Maori and only Maori.
      Because of this, the strong beautiful connection that I have had with Maori the Maori culture has been destroyed, I have been made to feel not worthy. I have been made to feel like an imposter, a fake, a charlatan, like I have no business having such a connection. After all I am not Maori, I am Pakeha.

      My message to you Mr Sharples is this.

      If you want to save Te Reo give it to everyone. Make it something that belongs to all New Zealanders, not something that just belongs to Maori.

      If you want the Maori culture to be stronger than ever, give it to all New Zealanders. Make it something that all New Zealanders can feel part of and have become part of them just like I once did. Not something that just belongs to Maori

      As far as the Land and the rivers and the lakes and the seabed go. Do not just claim it for Maori, Instead claim it for all New Zealand to respect, care for and be a custodians of.

      Pakeha are wrong on so many things Mr Sharples. Do not make the same mistakes that Pakeha are making.
      I do not expect you to listen to me, after all I am only Pakeha. I only hope you will.

  17. Michael 17

    IMHO, Ansell’s just staying warmed up for NACT’s 2014 campaign by burning a shitload of Crimp’s money. Brash’s 2004 Orewa speech, and Ansell’s follow up work, turned the tide in NACT’s favour and spooked Aunty Helen’s lot into stopping all work on the social justice front, including Treaty matters. The right seems to have calculated that playing the race card keeps it in power. From what I can see, I think they’re right. If there was an opposition party worthy of the name, NACT might not have such a walkover victory. Does anyone know what became of the Labour Party? Did they just disband or something?

    • Pascal's bookie 17.1

      The well is dry Michael.

      They got the gang back together and gave it the old school push in the last election with ACT. Ansell crowing about 40% at KB, and BigBruv in comments here predicting at least 10%. Nothing happened. It sunk like a uranium turd, with everyone looking on from the shoreline saying peeuw between the lulz.

      Ansell is now ranting about cabals of elite politicians and academics who ought to go to jail for fraud. He’s talking about mainstream historians and people like Bolger there I assume, though he’s been a bit coy.

      this will go nowhere, and the National party will have nothing to do with it, and if ACT force their hand, ACT will get put in its fucking place. The dunces corner.

  18. mike e 18

    Goose tr oll of the day Cynicism + a smidgeon of racism what you have is an act party fundamentalist who has proved exactly what they are up to 1% Trying to over influence the other 99%.
    But as per usual its only galvanising opposition to their tactics.

  19. UpandComer 19

    Did the Greens think they were the only ones who could find a hot button issue?

    The Greens and implicity Labour can’t criticise this move. If it succeeds, all their blather about ‘mandates’ mean they will have to accept it.

    Seriously, it should be taxpayer funded too, just like the Green’s ‘referendum’.

    • Pascal's bookie 19.1

      Did the Greens think they were the only ones who could find a hot button issue?

      I doubt it. Haven’t seen anyone saying so. Ansell is entitled to try and get a petition on whatever dan fool thing he wants within the CIR rules. It’ll be interesting to see how his wording is recieved.

      The Greens and implicity Labour can’t criticise this move. If it succeeds, all their blather about ‘mandates’ mean they will have to accept it.

      Have they criticised ‘this move’? I’m sure they’ll criticise his position and his laughable arguments, but that’s not the same thing. Likewise, based on his laughable arguments it’s perfectly valid to criticise him as being an idiot. Also, wrong about pretty much everything, and racist to boot. According ot your logic, all those criticisms will pplay implicitly to national and ACT. I see Rodney Hyde had an interesting newspaper piece on the Treaty recently. Collusion? Certainly a striking coincidence.

      Seriously, it should be taxpayer funded too, just like the Green’s ‘referendum’.

      Seriously? If ACT wants to spend some of its leaders budget helping him out, go for it. Why not?

      • toad 19.1.1

        What’s the bet Ansell actually drafted Hide’s HoS op-ed? Hide may have toned it down a bit before submitting it, but it is still full of the racism for which Ansell is becoming renowned.

        • Pascal's bookie 19.1.1.1

          yeah nah.

          The style is pretty much Rodney through and through. And he’s not stupid enough to let someone as unstable and disloyal as Ansell have something like that over hm.

          Reckon it’s more likely that they’ve talked, and most likely that some of the people Ansell has been hitting up for cash money have had a word with Hide. It’s not that big a circle of people is it?

    • fatty 19.2

      “Did the Greens think they were the only ones who could find a hot button issue?”

      Good try…but the Green’s ‘hot button issue’ is not aimed at protecting cultural hegemony and racist ideals. Make the link if you want, but its a pretty ignorant attempt.

    • felix 19.3

      So weird! That’s just like what Farrar said, but a bit fewer eloquent.

  20. The nats may be playing kiwi’s off against one another,but here is the rub, the 3 news poll just
    out says the the nats are down to 44% labour up to 32%, there is a rise for the greens too,
    so while the nats play their kind of sport,many kiwi’s read between the lines and strip them
    of gold.

  21. Michael 21

    I think you’ll find this is why NACT is playing the race card now. Economic performance (aka “growth”) is down, unemployment and social tensions are up. NACT’s poll ratings are sliding and they haven’t got any fresh ideas (I don’t think they had any in the first place). What else is there to do but stir up race conflict, especially now that no one cares whether or not we play sport with South Africa?

  22. The poll above i posted was from roy morgan taken from july 23 to august 5th,so
    it discounts the other polls.

  23. Steve Wrathall 23

    I fully support the Treaty, the 1840 one, not the fake one that was invented in the 1980s that contains the word “partnership”.

    “The Chiefs of the Confederation of the United Tribes of New Zealand and the separate and independent Chiefs who have not become members of the Confederation cede to Her Majesty the Queen of England absolutely and without reservation all the rights and powers of Sovereignty”

    What do you not understand about that?

    • Pascal's bookie 23.1

      Here’s the other clause, in the language recognised as the authoritative version:

      Ko te Kuini o Ingarani ka wakarite ka wakaae ki nga Rangitira ki nga hapu – ki nga tangata katoa o Nu Tirani te tino rangatiratanga o o ratou wenua o ratou kainga me o ratou taonga katoa. Otiia ko nga Rangatira o te wakaminenga me nga Rangatira katoa atu ka tuku ki te Kuini te hokonga o era wahi wenua e pai ai te tangata nona te Wenua – ki te ritenga o te utu e wakaritea ai e ratou ko te kai hoko e meatia nei e te Kuini hei kai hoko mona.

      Read up on what it meant. There are lots of sources.

      • Steve Wrathall 23.1.1

        Yes-their property rights.

        Third article
        In the Māori text, the Crown gave an assurance that Māori would have the Queen’s protection and all rights (tikanga) accorded to British subjects.

        That is equal rights.

        Read in its totality the Treaty clearly sets up one sovereignty with all citizens having equal rights. Modern revisionism and selective cherry picking of 3 ambiguous words in the Maori version do not alter this totality. Many of the signatories spoke good English anyway, and would have understood the English version, or did not sign immediately and had plenty of time to enquire as to the overall intent.

        In business terminology, it was a merger, not a partnership.

        • Pascal's bookie 23.1.1.1

          What’s ambiguous about ‘chieftainship’?

          And if you’re gong to talk about cherry picking, you can’t really just gloss over the second article and pretend tino rangatiratanga just means what you conveniently think it means.

          I mean, if it’s fair for you to do that, then it’s equally fair for iwi to gloss over the first article and say that ‘Sovereignty’ is ambiguous and so therefore we are are all one people under tino rangatiratanga.

          • North 23.1.1.1.1

            What’s all this “look and listen to the oracle” mock academic crap from Wrathall ?

            Did Maori sign for “merger” which raped and plundered in short order of the ink drying ?

            Did Maori sign for “merger” with European disease which nearly wiped them out as a race ?

            Did Maori sign for “merger” with the bottom of the heap in just about every measure 170 years on ?

            Hey, Wracist Wrubbish Wrathall, Tame’s great x 8 grandfather didn’t sign at all.

            Bloody laughable is this from WWW: “Many of the signatories spoke good English anyway, and ‘would have’ (???) understood the English version, or did not sign immediately and had plenty of time to enquire as to the overall intent.”

            Where, idiot ? Paihia CAB ? Or Russell McVeagh downtown Waitangi ? Free waka parking for new clients ?

            My God, Wright Wring Wracist Wrubbish sure talks some steaming kaka !

  24. RedBaron 24

    Maybe we need a “be nice to Gos night” . He and other right wingers must be feeling very fragile having watched Christchurch central city property owners being stripped of their land like it or not.

    They must be very afraid of ending up in the same waka.

  25. AmaKiwi 25

    The Treaty is only an issue because the statistics for Maori are so appalling.

    Whatever one may think about a document signed 172 years ago the facts are clear: a group of NZ citizens are worse off than the average by every measure of wealth and well-being: income, unemployment, health, imprisonment, etc., etc.

    I resist the liberal temptation to say, “I know how to fix it.” From my life experience I think the answers have to come from the people who are the Maori underclass. What the better off can do is help them implement their own solutions. Transfers of land and money are not solutions to social problems, no matter how valid or invalid the historic claims might be. But the right to equal opportunities and well-being is an infinitely valid grievance.

  26. blue leopard 26

    Eddie

    “… Although I doubt that the mainstream media will run the level of overtly racist material that Ansell is hinting at when he refers to when he says that he wants to “enrage the public”. That’s not just because media bosses have some standards or because of the BSA and press council consequences – it’s because New Zealanders aren’t as racist as Ansell would like us to believe, or as racist as we once were, and media that run racist ads risk losing customers.”

    I don’t agree with this. I find it overly idealistic, wishful thinking (at best) and not grounded in what continues to occur in NZ. There is a lot of racism here, people will be quick to agree with any moronic messages this team convey and NZ TV will do whatever its bosses, (which appears to be the National Government), tell them to do. If any complaints are laid, I’m sure they will “find a way around” them.

  27. Polish Pride 27

    Oh and Bubble boy

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-19/microsoft-profit-tops-estimates-as-companies-upgrade-computers.html

    Also in case you don’t microsoft has bought a lot of companies in recent years. Companies like Skype and Adquantive among others. This costs money, it increases overall revenue but decreases profit. So that will be one of the reasons for the decrease in profit. Understand? or do I need to type slower for you?
    Either way
    Lesson for the day for you
    Amount of profit going up or down has no bearing on the fact that companies employ right wing wealth redistribution tactics to funnel money upwards. If anything, a company who finds itself in a position where its profits are going down is sooner or later probably going to look to redistribute wealth, probably through a restructure.

    pwned again bubble, pwned again….

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    As part of the discussion on Alternative Transport Funding, which was launched yesterday, the Council also released a copy of Auckland Transport’s entire 30 year transport programme which includes the cost of projects and seemingly ranked according to some combination of criteria....
    Transport Blog | 29-10
  • Questions and Answers – October 30
    Press Release – Office of the Clerk EconomyInterest Rates and Inflation 1. ALASTAIR SCOTT (NationalWairarapa) to the Minister of Finance : What reports has he received on the economy, particularly on the direction of interest rates and inflation?QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS...
    Its our future | 29-10
  • Storm surge: Hurricane Sandy
    On the second anniversary of Superstorm Sandy making landfall, we are running an extract from a new book by Adam Sobel “Storm Surge: Hurricane Sandy, Our Changing Climate, and Extreme Weather of the Past and Future”. It’s a great read...
    Real Climate | 29-10
  • Questions For Oral Answer October 30
    Press Release – Office of the Clerk 1. ALASTAIR SCOTT to the Minister of Finance: What reports has he received on the economy, particularly on the direction of interest rates and inflation? QUESTIONS TO MINISTERS 1. ALASTAIR SCOTT to the...
    Its our future | 29-10
  • Trade Deal Threatens Farmers and Food Businesses
    Press Release – GE Free NZ The secret Trans Pacific Partnership negotiations are a direct threat to food businesses and farmers, and a moratorium on the release of GE crops must be enshrined in law before the TPP is signed.Trade...
    Its our future | 29-10
  • The latest poverty excuses
    Today, the National Government managed to out produce Fonterra in its production of hot air and manure, with their explanations to justify the figures released in the latest (UNICEF) report documenting how little John Key’s administration has done to reduce...
    Closing the Gap | 29-10
  • TPPA causing concern
    Press Release – Joint Press Release Concern over the secretive Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) negotiations is being expressed in two public meetings over the next week; one at a presentation on 5th November by former councillor Robin Gwynn to the...
    Its our future | 29-10
  • CTU announces election of new Secretary
    The contested election for the position of CTU Secretary has been won by Sam Huggard. Sam officially takes office on Monday 1 December 2014. Sam has worked in the union movement and brings a wealth of experience and a commitment...
    CTU | 29-10
  • Why my money’s on David Parker. And why Labour’s should be as well!
    OK, eventually you have to put your money where your mouth is. So who, of the four declared contestants – Nanaia Mahuta, Grant Robertson, Andrew Little and David Parker –  should, in my opinion, win the Labour leadership contest? And...
    Brian Edwards | 29-10
  • Arming police: evidence based policy or populist wishlist?
    At a time when people are questioning whether police forces in the United States have become too militarized, the president of New Zealand’s police association (NZPA) is calling for our police to be “fully armed”. He claims that incidents that...
    On the Left | 29-10
  • Flags > Poverty
    Today in parliament we saw both Kelvin Davis and Annette King make important and useful requests, both of which were denied. Annette King drew attention to the UNICEF report that shows that child poverty has not improved in New Zealand,...
    Fundamental | 29-10
  • Worker’s rights dealt severe blow with Bill’s passing
    The passing of the Employment Relations Amendment Bill is another blow to workers' rights in New Zealand, the Green Party said today.This afternoon, National's Employment Relations Amendment Bill passed with the support of Act and United Future."This bill will force...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Barriers to reporting sex crimes must go
    Both the Government and police need to take action to ensure that, in future, sexual abuse victims know they will be taken seriously, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “The young women involved in the Roast Busters case, and...
    Labour | 30-10
  • Te Wakaputanga – What we did not learn at school
    This week saw the 179th anniversary of the signing of Te Wakaputanga, the Declaration of Independence of the United Tribes of Niu Tireni. Most of us did not learn about this fundamentally critical document at school, we barely learned about...
    Greens | 30-10
  • NZ goes backwards on gender equality
    It is no coincidence that in the same week New Zealand is singled out for going backwards on child poverty under National,  we’ve also dropped in global rankings for gender equality. In one year New Zealand has dropped from 7th...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Kevin Hague questions the Minister of Health on management of Katherine Ric...
    Is he satisfied that all conflicts of interest that arose by the head of Food and Grocery Council Katherine Rich being a member of the Health Promotion Agency were managed in accordance with the provisions of the Crown Entities Act...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Bennett parks numbers on social housing
    Social Housing Minister Paula Bennett admitted today that well over 1000 families have been subsidised through the accommodation supplement to stay in the Ranui campground, somewhere she has previously described as not the right place for children to be growing...
    Labour | 30-10
  • 50,000 sign petition against anti-worker law
    More than 50,000 Kiwis have signed Labour’s petition against the Government’s scrapping of tea break entitlements, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “That’s the equivalent of five people signing our petition every minute for a week. It shows the...
    Labour | 30-10
  • Address in Reply Debate – Dr Kennedy Graham on UN Security Council- 2...
    In the Speech from the Throne last week the Prime Minister identified the usual domestic goals for his Government. I counted 17. They are not my subject today. I wish instead to focus on matters beyond our shores. In the...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Climate change harming ocean health
    New Zealand is responsible for one of the largest areas of sea in the world – an area 14 times the size of our land area. The National Government is promising new marine protected areas legislation with a discussion document...
    Greens | 30-10
  • Key misled public over Jason Ede
    Information contained in a new chapter of the book Key: Portrait of a Prime Minister, that Jason Ede stopped working for the National Party on the night the book Dirty Politics was released, shows Mr Key and senior ministers hid...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Greenpeace report highlights better path for NZ agriculture
    A Greenpeace International report highlights a better way forward for New Zealand agriculture than the GE and chemical mutation technologies supported by Federated Farmers, and the National Government through its research funding packages, the Green Party said today. "This report...
    Greens | 29-10
  • BNZ post record profits while leaving savers vulnerable
    A small part of the $850 million record profit posted by the Bank of New Zealand (BNZ) today needs to be set aside to protect savers' deposits in the future, said Green Party Co-leader Dr Russel Norman today.Dr Norman was...
    Greens | 29-10
  • RBNZ U-turn shows monetary settings were wrong
    The Reserve Bank's U-turn on interest rates today shows monetary policy settings were wrong and New Zealanders have suffered unnecessarily through the loss of jobs and having to pay higher interest rates, the Green Party said today.Reserve Bank Governor Graeme...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Ports must take responsibility for shameful death toll
    Port companies must step up and take responsibility for a shameful toll of seven deaths and 133 serious accidents in the past three years, Labour MP Iain Lees-Galloway says. The frightening figures – released by the Rail, Maritime and Transport...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Please help me get my Feed the Kids Bill to Select Committee
    Last week I took over the Feed the Kids Bill that Hone Harawira had introduced to Parliament. If passed, my Bill will provide government-funded breakfast and lunch in all decile 1 and 2 schools. Hungry kids can’t learn and are...
    Greens | 29-10
  • TVNZ Outsourcing Pasifika and Maori Programmes
    I’ve always been a big fan of our state broadcaster and I’ve particularly liked their range of current events programmes. But after Friday’s announcement that TVNZ will be sacking up to 40 staff by contracting out the Pacific and Maori...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Labour urges iwi leaders to meet with National
    Labour’s Māori Caucus has called on iwi leaders and national Māori organisations to seek urgent meetings with the National Government to directly express their concerns about employment law changes which will harm Māori workers. In an open letter sent today...
    Labour | 29-10
  • ACC’s reputation needs fix, not glitz
    Restoring public trust and confidence in ACC will take a lot more than a new communications strategy or social media blitz, says Labour’s ACC spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway. “Under National, ACC has come to be perceived as insensitive, difficult to deal...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Lessons to be learned from police investigation
    The outcome of the so-called Roast Busters case should not put victims off reporting sexual crimes, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “This case has been mishandled from the start. Within days of police initially saying no charges had...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Anti-worker legislation is anti-Pacifica
    The Minister for Pacific Peoples, Peseta Sam Lotu-Iiga, will go down in history as being part of a Government that harmed his own people through anti-worker legislation, says Labour’s Pacific Island Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “Pacific people are among...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Five-year tax holiday for overseas tax dodgers
    National has just gifted a five-year tax holiday for foreign companies dodging their tax payments, says Revenue spokesperson David Clark. “Todd McClay has pretended he is doing something about overseas companies dodging their tax duties by joining an international initiative...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Traffic Jam Tax must be given the red light
    Auckland Council’s proposed Traffic Jam Tax could cost some households thousands of dollars a year just to use roads they had already paid for with their taxes and must be rejected, says Labour’s transport and Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford....
    Labour | 29-10
  • National has chance to show leadership on limos
    The National Party has the opportunity to show leadership by transitioning our vehicle fleet towards renewable electricity when a new contract to supply Government limousines for VIPs goes to tender next month, the Green Party said today. "This is a...
    Greens | 29-10
  • The Māori Party can’t have it both ways over labour laws
    The Māori Party has to fess up over its voting record on the Employment Relations Amendment Bill, says Labour’s Māori Caucus.  “It’s simply not good enough to oppose the bill at the same time  as they helped speed up its progress through...
    Labour | 29-10
  • Equal pay and the aged care sector
    Today the High Court upheld the historic ruling by the Employment Court that our Equal Pay Act could be used to consider work of equal value cases; the government has been telling the UN and ILO that it could for...
    Greens | 29-10
  • Court case perfect opportunity for Government to improve gender pay gap
    If the Government wants to halt New Zealand’s slump in international rankings on the gender pay gap it should act on the court finding that women deserve equal wages, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Sue Moroney says. “The World Economic Forum’s...
    Labour | 28-10
  • All Auckland transport options should be considered
    All options for meeting Auckland's transport needs should be considered, including reprioritising the transport budget away from wasteful spending on motorways, the Green Party said today.Auckland mayor Len Brown is today releasing a transport report by the Independent Advisory Board,...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Another report highlights Govt failure on child poverty
    An international report measuring the impact of the Global Financial Crisis (GFC) on child poverty rates, showing children in New Zealand have done worse than children in other countries, is further proof the Government needs to urgently take additional steps...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Address and Reply Debate Part 55: Inequality and Disability
    I rise on behalf of the Green Party to talk about inequality and disability.The recent census showed that nearly one in four New Zealanders lives with a disability—up from one in five in the previous census. These figures include some...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Child poverty: No more wake-up calls
    A new report which shows the National Government has made no inroads whatsoever into child poverty should do more than just set alarm bells ringing, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “UNICEF’s  latest Innocenti Report Card highlights the fact...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Eugenie Sage speaks in the 2014 Address in Reply Debate
    I congratulate you, Assistant Speaker Mallard, as Assistant Speaker and look forward to your knowledge, your fairness, and your light touch in being a referee of proceedings in this House. I congratulate also the other Assistant Speaker, Lindsay Tisch; the...
    Greens | 28-10
  • James Shaw’s Maiden Speech
    Tena Koe, Mr Speaker. I would like to take this opportunity to speak a little of the past, the present and the future. The privilege to serve in this Parliament was given to me by all those who gave their...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Govt airs real views on public broadcasting
    An admission by the Government that it is happy to experiment with Pacific and Maori audiences shows just how weak its vision for public broadcasting in New Zealand is, Labour’s Broadcasting spokesperson Kris Faafoi says. “National today admitted it doesn’t...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Does Judith Collins have a get out of jail card?
    Former justice minister Judith Collins appears to have been gifted a get out of jail free card based on the Prime Minister’s answers in Parliament today, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “Judith Collins claimed in an Official Information...
    Labour | 28-10
  • Solid Energy decision delay sensible
    Today’s announcement by the Board of Solid Energy that it will delay making a final decision on re-entering the Pike River mine is a sensible move, Labour’s MP for  West Coast-Tasman Damien O’Connor says. “It has been clear for some...
    Labour | 28-10
  • New York Green Bank off to a $1B start
    New York Governor Andrew Cuomo announced late last week the New York Green Bank’s first NZD$1 billion tranche of green energy investments. The projects, which are difficult for the private sector to finance, are now possible by New York Green...
    Greens | 28-10
  • Bartlett case means Govt must act on equal pay
    The Court of Appeal victory for Lower Hutt caregiver, Kristine Bartlett demonstrates that both the Government and employers have been ignoring and not fully implementing equal pay law, the Green Party said today.The Court of Appeal today upheld earlier rulings...
    Greens | 27-10
  • Rotorua shift for Maori TV a bizarre move
    The bizarre idea to move Maori TV to Rotorua is either poor planning or possible political interference that adds to the perception of a service in crisis, says Labour MP for Tamaki Makaurau Peeni Henare. “Moving Maori TV to Rotorua...
    Labour | 27-10
  • Second rate deal a no go – Goff
    A second rate deal on dairy in the TPP would totally contradict the agreed purpose of the Pacific trade agreement, Labour’s Trade spokesperson, Phil Goff says. “Both the origin of the trade negotiations and leaders’ statements on its objectives emphasise...
    Labour | 27-10
  • Legal victory a boost for all working women
    Today’s legal victory for equal pay is a much-needed boost for working women at a time when the Government is pushing through reforms which will make it harder for them to get pay rises, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Sue Moroney...
    Labour | 27-10
  • National’s failed commodities export strategy exposed
    National's strategy to rely on commodities such as milk powder and logs has been exposed in the September trade figures released today, the Green Party said."National's strategy to hang all economic hope on exporting ever-increasing volumes of milk powder and...
    Greens | 23-10
  • Caution needed on calls to arm police
    There is no justification for routinely arming our police and doing so would change forever the way officers interact with their communities, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “As one of the few organisations distinguished by its unarmed status,...
    Labour | 23-10
  • Govt strains to get tea break law through
    The Government has been left with egg on its face - failing to get its much-vaunted, but hugely unpopular, meal break law passed in the first week of its new term, Labour spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.“National desperately...
    Labour | 23-10
  • How low can you go? Mining the depths
    The company says there will be economic benefits, which the EEZ Act says the EPA must consider, but even these benefits are in doubt. The royalties while not set will be tiny, the profits will flow offshore, and whatever phosphate...
    Greens | 23-10
  • Fed Farmers defend GE Agriculture
    Federated Farmers, which represents a minority of farmers, appears to be captured by a pro-GE clique hell bent on increasing unsustainable technologies for the benefit of the herbicide and patent controlling seed companies. That there are better more sustainable farming...
    Greens | 23-10
  • Government loses the affordable housing race
    Nick Smith is dreaming if he thinks he can deliver affordable housing to Cantabrians on his current figures, says Labour’s Associate Housing spokesperson Poto Williams. “The Minister’s announcement that the Government will build 237 new homes, most of which will...
    Labour | 23-10
  • Labour’s thoughts with Canadians
    Labour has offered its sympathies to the family and friends of the Canadian soldier who died in what appears to be a premeditated and unprovoked attack while standing at guard at the Ottawa National War Memorial. “Our thoughts are also...
    Labour | 23-10
  • What next for TVNZ? Outsourcing the news?
    Television New Zealand’s decision to outsource Māori and Pacific programming is a real blow to the notion that our state broadcaster is a public broadcaster, says Labour. “CEO Kevin Kenrick has said today that TVNZ has ‘a very long and...
    Labour | 22-10
  • Green Party expresses sympathy for Canadian shooting victims
    The Green Party expressed its solidarity with Canadians and the Canadian Parliament today, offering its sympathy for family and friends of the soldier killed in the attack. "Our thoughts are with all those caught up in the shooting in Canada...
    Greens | 22-10
  • Poverty & inequality don’t need protest marches – they need a riot:...
    The global level of inequality continues to skyrocket… Number of billionaires doubled since financial crisis The number of billionaires has doubled since the start of the financial crisis, according to a major new report from anti-poverty campaigners. According to Oxfam,...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • If Key knows who Rawshark is…
    I’m sorry, what? John Key ‘given Rawshark’s name’The Prime Minister believes he knows who hacked Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater’s computer and produced the source material for Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics, according to a new edition of a recently published...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Child Poverty stats in NZ
    Child Poverty stats in NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 30-10
  • Crimes Act + Police Investigation = WTF
    Just to frame the farce that is the Roastbuster’s investigation and conclusion – here are the parts of the Crime Act http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1961/0043/latest/whole.html#DLM329057  the Roastbusters are proven to have violated – that the police (and some suspects!) themselves acknowledge occurred: Crimes...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Publishing Journalists’ Home Addresses Is A Tactic Of The Right, Not The ...
    I think I’m starting to get rather annoyed with the conduct of some pro-MANA people over this ongoing Parliamentary Services crew complement issue. Yes, we get that there are legitimate issues to be raised with how some political reporters in...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Aucklanders caught between a tarseal-addicted government and a weak mayor
    Len Brown’s proposal for motorway tolls to reduce congestion and provide funding for better public transport is a weak response to a critical issue. The $12 billion dollar shortfall on transport funding he talks about is mainly for projected new...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • A Very Weird Story: Deconstructing Darren Aronofsky’s Noah.
    NOAH is a curious movie. Conceived as a biblical epic, it’s target audience was originally the millions of Americans who regard the Bible as God’s inerrant word. With the sin-filled works of Hollywood forbidden to these true-believers, Christian movie-makers have developed...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • You Can Get Away With Rape In New Zealand
    Jessie Hume with last years petition against rape     The police have sent a strong message today.  In fact they’ve been sending a strong message for a while; a message that our government supports. “You can literally get away...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Roast Buster case – no charges. In the immortal words of NWA…
    Roast Busters case: No prosecutions Police are to make an announcement this afternoon on Operation Clover, the investigation into the “Roast Busters” allegations. The Herald understands the victim has been told that the alleged offenders will not be prosecuted due...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Key’s flag change distraction to cost $26million!
    No. Way. Bid to change NZ flag to cost millions The cost of holding two referendums and consulting on a change of flag has been estimated to be just under $26 million. Look. We all appreciate that the sleepy hobbits...
    The Daily Blog | 29-10
  • Why NZ Herald’s Labour Party crocodile tears are so audacious
    The front page the NZ Herald would use if they thought they could get away with it No one can take the recent columns by NZ Herald seriously… John Armstrong: Shadow lingers on National John Roughan: Labour’s leadership vote matters...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • The beginning of the end of Cameron Slater?
    Slater postings on man bizarre, court told A businessman has changed his appearance and had to install extra security at his home after Whale Oil blogger Cameron Slater posted his business and personal documents online, he says. Mr Slater has...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • We are a milk power republic and Fonterra our unelected senate
    Wow. Just wow… Deputy mayor says he’ll be sacked South Taranaki deputy mayor Alex Ballantyne says he expects to be sacked because he has spoken out about the impact gasses coming from dumped Fonterra dairy products have had on his...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: “…But *actually* this is about ethics in political-game jo...
    Yesterday, a piece of mine on the recent revelations about Hone Harawira employing several gentlemen either accused or convicted of sex offences was published on The Daily Blog. Predictably, given the fierce loyalty which Hone inspires in his party faithful and...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Privilege cheque
    There was no race problem in my childhood. Living in central Wellington I was well-insulated from what was going on not so far away. This was the 60s and 70s, where the teachers enjoyed free love in the staff room...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • A brief word on Key’s claim that it will be raining carnage
    Isis will ‘rain carnage on the world’ – John Key Left unchecked Isis would “rain carnage on the world”, Prime Minister John Key says, but he has yet to make a decision on whether New Zealand troops will join a...
    The Daily Blog | 28-10
  • Meanwhile…
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    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • How does Andrew Little win Labour Leadership and unify the caucus?
    Audrey Young’s excellent column on how the Caucus vote  is shaping up shows how Andrew Little becomes the next leader of the Labour Party. She identifies the factions as the following… Andrew Little 6: Andrew Little, David Cunliffe, Iain Lees Galloway,...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Right of response to Curwen
    You have asked that Hone Harawira deserves to explain what happened, how would he explain when his next door neighbour is an alleged sex offender. What explanation can Hone offer he wasn’t involved, Hone had no idea this offending was...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • MEDIA WATCH: That Hella-Weird Feeling When You Defend Tova O’Brien
    Oh dear. Yesterday morning I blogged that Hone deserved a chance to explain what exactly had happened as applies his office’s Parliamentary Services crew complement – and, importantly, that we deserve to be able to judge him on the strength of...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Canadian Green MP warns against harsh anti-terror measures
    Canada’s Green Party has provided a welcome counterpoint to Prime Minister Harper’s call for tougher anti-terrorism laws in the wake of a soldier outside the Canadian Parliament. On October 22, while she was still locked in her parliamentary office, Green...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • When is an asset sale not an asset sale? When it robs from the poor and ste...
    National have turned state housing on its head. At no time during the 2014 election did the Key Government even hint that they were going to privatise 30% of the Housing NZ stock of state homes. Not once. Key even...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part To...
    . . Continued from: Housing; broken promises, families in cars, and ideological idiocy (Part Rua) . Bill English comes clean on National’s intentions for HNZ privatisation . On 14 October, in a report on The Daily Blog, I wrote, In...
    The Daily Blog | 27-10
  • The Questions Have Been Asked – They Deserve An Answer
    A few days ago, allegations that had been percolating for some time about Hone Harawira employing three either accused or convicted sex offenders on his Parliamentary pay-roll came to light. (one imprisoned before working for MANA; one who found himself convicted and...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • I have seen one future, and it is bleak
    . . Back in  March 2012, I wrote this story regarding a march to support striking workers at Ports of Auckland. It appears there was some prescience about some of my observations at the time… . | | 18 March...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • US air strike war Key wants us in has killed a civilian a day so far
      The US air strike war that John Key wants us to join has killed a civilian a day so far. From the Washington Post... The United States launched its first airstrikes on militants in Syria on Sept. 23, and has continued...
    The Daily Blog | 26-10
  • The instant Jihad syndrome
    My favourite new term is ‘self-radicalised’ – it suggests the reasons for terrorism are totally divorced from the actions of the West. This need to suddenly ramp up terror laws because of lone wolf, self-radicalised Jihadists seems convenient and counter-productive....
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • We have nothing to fear from Ebola but fear itself
    I suspect most Americans perceive Ebola like this   I can’t work out if the fear being spread within the media about Ebola is deliberate or just ignorance. Yes Ebola is a terrible plague that kills a large percentage of...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – “Meritocracy? I wish.”
    I’d like to start by linking to a post I had published at another site in support of Nanaia Mahuta for the Labour Party leadership election.  She has a reasonable chance, given that she already has the endorsement of Te...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Chocolate milk shortage and creepy Santa? Let’s talk about real news
    Child poverty is still a scarily serious problem in this country and house prices are soaring through the roof to the point where it is simply impossible for the average New Zealander to buy a home. There is also little...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • It’s time to celebrate Kiwi schools and teachers
    Some would have you believe that New Zealand’s schools are in a state of collapse, that your children are not being educated well and that things are going to hell in a hand basket.  That there is no innovation, no...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Ideological Blitzkrieg – Privatization of state housing, more charter sch...
    Pundits in pundit land will tell you that this Government is boring, that Key is the great pragmatist and that it is his ability to create elegant solutions that keeps him the firm favourite in many Kiwi eyes. This ability...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • Hegemony rules but resistance is fertile
    The Prime Minister is a puppet. Not just our current Prime Minister, but given the forces of multinational globalisation, the role of any head of state, is less as independent actor, and more as a puppet of international trends and...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • An open Letter to Sir Bob Jones: demanding a ‘liveable wage’ is not “...
    How out of touch with reality is Sir Bob Jones? You know, that white dude who invested in privatised SOEs after the selling off of our assets in the eighties and made a ludicrous and disgusting amount of money and is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • My insecurity about the Security Council
    As I write this (on 24 October) it is international UN Day. Of course, you all knew that already, right? Well, the day celebrates the entry into force of the UN Charter in 1945. With the ratification of this founding...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Back in That House
    Parliament opened this week and I still find it a very odd place. Most of the people are reasonably courteous and friendly, but the rituals are archaic and the rules around issues like the swearing in oath are oppressive and...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Marae Investigates No More
    TVNZ yesterday announced the closure of their Māori and Pacific programmes department. That means they’ve chosen to stop making Fresh, Tagata Pasifika, Waka Huia and Marae Investigates to let independent producers get their hands on these lucrative contracts. This is...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • BLOGWATCH: An Un-Civil War in Labour, eh?
    Earlier today, my attention was directed to an entry that’s just recently appeared on the Slightly Left of Centre blog. It purports to contain the ‘inside word’ from a highly placed NZF source – which is funny, because I’m pretty sure...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Santanomics 101
    Santanomics could mean a number of things. It could be the study and practice of giving. Or it could mean the study and practice of rampant end-of-year commercialism. However, for me today it is the economics of erectingAuckland’s giant Santa...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • SkyCity boss misleads public over workers lost shifts
    SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison has defended the employment practices at his company in an “Opinion” piece entitled “Human Capital key to corporate success” in the NZ Herald on Thursday. A number of his claims are misleading, contain only partial truths...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Review: Perfect Place
    I went to a Perfect Place on Tuesday night, and what a delight it was. The marshmallows sweetly (and forcefully) handed out pre-show, set the tone for the next hour. Walking up the stairs at The Basement was a complete...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • 5AA Australia – NZ on UN Security Council + Dirty Politics Lingers On
    5AA Australia: Selwyn Manning and Peter Godfrey deliver their weekly bulletin Across The Ditch. General round up of over night talkback issues: Thongs, Jandals and flip-flops… ISSUE 1: New Zealand has been successful in its campaign to become a non...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • When I mean me, I mean my office & when I call whaleoil I mean not as m...
    This. Is. Ludicrous. Green Party co-leader Russel Norman put the first of what are likely to be many questions about Mr Key’s relationship with Slater, asking him how many times he had phoned or texted the blogger since 2008. “None...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • A brief word on describing the Government as ‘boring and bland’
    The narrative being sown is that this Government will be a boring and bland third term. Boring and bland. Since the election, Key has announced he is privatising 30% of state houses without reinvesting any of that money back into housing society’s most...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • More Latté Than Lager: Reflections on Grant Robertson’s Campaign Launch.
    BIKERS? SERIOUSLY! Had Grant Robertson’s campaign launch been organised by Phil Goff? Was this a pitch for the votes of what few Waitakere Men remain in the Labour Party? Was I even at the right place? Well, yes, I was....
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • About Curwen Ares Rolinson
    Curwen Ares Rolinson – Curwen Ares Rolinson is a firebrand young nationalist presently engaged in acts of political resistance deep behind enemy lines amidst the leafy boughs of Epsom. He is affiliated with the New Zealand First Party; although his...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kelly Ellis
    Kelly Ellis.Kelly Ellis – As a child, Kelly Ellis didn’t so much fall into the cracks, but willfully wriggled her way into them. Ejected from Onslow College – a big job in the 70s – Kelly worked in car factories,...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kate Davis
    Kate Davis.Kate Davis – Having completed her BA in English and Politics, Kate is now starting her MA. Kate works as a volunteer advocate at Auckland Action Against Poverty and previously worked for the New Zealand Prostitutes Collective. Kate writes...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Parker does a Shearer – oh for a Labour Leader who can challenge msm fals...
    Sigh. It seems David Parker has done a Shearer… Like a cult and too red – Parker on LabourLabour leadership contender David Parker says Labour borders on feeling like “a cult” and must look at its branding – including its...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • A brief word on the hundreds of millions NZ is spending on the secret intel...
    The enormity of the mass surveillance state NZ Government’s have built carries a huge price tag… Kiwis pay $103m ‘membership fee’ for spyingThe $103 million taxpayer funding of New Zealand’s intelligence agencies is effectively a membership fee for joining the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • CTU Runanga calls on iwi leaders
    Maori workers are calling on iwi leaders to speak out against the employment law changes expected to go through today. “Iwi leaders have previously spoken out when workers in Aotearoa have been under attack, we believe they should do so...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Educating children not the best solution to alcohol harm
    Alcohol Healthwatch says we need to look beyond educating children and young people to address deeply embedded attitudes and behaviours concerning alcohol....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • New code of welfare for rodeos released
    New standards to strengthen the animal welfare requirements for rodeos have been issued today by the Minister for Primary Industries, Nathan Guy....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • IPCA report riddle with inaccuracies, say students
    A report by the Independent Police Conduct Authority into the policing of student protests in 2012 is riddled with inaccuracies, say students who laid the original complaint with the IPCA....
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • CT v The Queen – indecency convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Rameka v The Queen – murder convictions quashed
    This summary is provided to assist in the understanding of the Court’s judgment. It does not comprise part of the reasons for that judgment. The full judgment with reasons is the only authoritative document. The full text of the judgment...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Auckland Council Out of Control
    Responding to the NZ Herald article that some Auckland households will face a rates rise of up to 9.6 per cent next year, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “Len Brown’s pledge to cap rates rises at 2.5 per...
    Scoop politics | 30-10
  • Stats NZ staff escalate action with ‘no more meetings’ rule
    Statistics NZ staff have voted to escalate their ongoing industrial action in an effort to get Stats NZ back to the bargaining table with a reasonable offer. The staff, who are members of the Public Service Association (PSA), have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Rape Crisis calls for changes to criminal justice system
    Wellington Rape Crisis has added its voice to the public outcry following the announcement that there will be no charges in the teen rape gang case. Butterworth says the decision not to lay charges will not have been a surprise...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Police action justified in Blockade the Budget demonstration
    Police actions in dealing with a demonstration in Central Auckland known as Blockade the Budget on 1 June 2012 were justified and appropriate, an Independent Police Conduct Authority report released today found....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • NZDF Joins with Australia to Commemorate WWI Centenary
    A contingent of New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) personnel will join their Australian counterparts at Australia’s first major commemoration of the First World War centenary in Albany, Western Australia this weekend....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Reserve Bank should reduce interest rate
    “The Reserve Bank should be reducing its policy interest rate, the OCR”, says CTU Economist Bill Rosenberg in response to the Bank’s announcement today that it is not increasing it....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • 2015 Stout Fellow will write about Māori & Criminal Justice
    Kim Workman, founder and advocate for the Robson Hanan Trust, which administers the Rethinking Crime and Punishment and Justspeak initiatives, has been awarded the 2015 John David Stout Fellowship at Victoria University....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • What John Key thought about ‘dirty politics’
    On September 20, John Key swept to victory to become one of New Zealand’s most successful and popular Prime Ministers. Rocked by scandal, the 2014 election campaign was one of the most brutal – and riveting – in recent history....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Trade Deal Threatens Farmers and Food Businesses
    The secret Trans Pacific Partnership negotiations are a direct threat to food businesses and farmers, and a moratorium on the release of GE crops must be enshrined in law before the TPP is signed....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • CTU announces election of new Secretary
    The contested election for the position of CTU Secretary has been won by Sam Huggard. Sam officially takes office on Monday 1 December 2014. Sam has worked in the union movement and brings a wealth of experience and a commitment...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kim Workman awarded 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship
    The Victoria University of Wellington 2015 J.D. Stout Fellowship, funded by the Stout Trust, has been awarded to justice reform advocate Kim Workman. Mr Workman (Ngati Kahungungu ki Wairarapa, Rangitaane) is well known for his work on criminal justice,...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • TPPA causing concern
    Concern over the secretive Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) negotiations is being expressed in two public meetings over the next week; one at a presentation on 5th November by former councillor Robin Gwynn to the Napier City Council, the...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kiwis rally to demand justice for ‘Roast Buster’ survivors
    Over 1,500 kiwis have rallied to demand justice after the announcement of the NZ Police decision not to lay charges in the ‘Roast Busters’ saga....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • New employment law will hurt the most vulnerable NZers
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says changes to the Employment Relations Act, expected to be passed in Parliament tonight, will hurt vulnerable workers and their families more than anyone....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Consultation to close on proposed place names
    The New Zealand Geographic Board (NZGB) Ngā Pou Taunaha o Aotearoa today advised that only one month remains before public consultation closes for 18 name proposals for geographic features and places around Te Ika ā Māui (the North Island)....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Operation Clover – Statement from Police Commissioner
    I have taken a close interest in this investigation and I am confident police have conducted a thorough and professional enquiry in what has been a challenging and complex case. The Operation Clover team has ensured that victims have been...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Better policy would have protected children from recession
    Child Poverty Action Group says an international report released by UNICEF today shows good policy can protect and improve child well-being, even during a recession....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Outcome of Operation Clover investigation
    Police have completed a multi-agency investigation, Operation Clover, into the activities of a group calling themselves “The Roast Busters”. The 12 month enquiry focused on incidents involving allegations of sexual offending against a number of girls...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • False birth registration brings home detention
    A Whangarei woman who attempted to register the birth of a fictitious child to claim a sole parent benefit was sentenced to six months home detention in the Whangarei District Court today....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Family of Robert Ellis demand a proper investigation
    The family of a New Zealander killed in Indonesia are growing increasingly concerned at the lack of information they’ve received, and the handling of the investigation into his murder....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Minister of Health must account for aged care workers’ pay
    The New Zealand Federation of Business and Professional Women (BPW NZ) congratulates rest-home worker Kristine Bartlett on her landmark claim for equal pay from her employer and successfully pursuing this to the Court of Appeal....
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Labour leadership candidates in Invercargill
    The four candidates for Labour Leader – Andrew Little, Nanaia Mahuta, David Parker and Grant Robertson - will be in Invercargill on Friday evening for a Husting meeting with members, as part of fourteen Husting Meetings being held nationwide as...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Public now needs to have its say over new tolls
    “I welcome the likes of new tolls and fuel taxes going out for public consultation after these matters have been talked about for 20 years. However the timing is not ideal as it comes on top of the likes of...
    Scoop politics | 29-10
  • Kiwis to fight back against TPPA ‘corporate trap’
    New Zealanders in at least sixteen different locations around the country are organising for an International Day of Action against the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) on 8 November, co-ordinated by It's Our Future NZ. This is part of an international...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Taxpayers’ Union Welcomes NZ First MP’s Resignation
    The Taxpayers’ Union is welcoming NZ First MP, Clayton Mitchell’s resignation from the Tauranga City Council, despite Party Leader Winston Peters' public comments in July that Mr Mitchell would do both jobs if elected to Parliament. The Union's...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Stopping unnecessary roading projects solution to transport
    Today Auckland Council released the Funding Auckland’s Transport Future report which claims Aucklanders need to choose higher rates, petrol taxes or tolls to pay for future transport projects, when the real issue is the prioritisation of unnecessary...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Fixing Auckland’s transport
    Today marks a critical step in the most important funding debate Auckland has ever had: whether or not Aucklanders are willing to pay for the transport system this city desperately needs to keep it moving, says Mayor Len Brown....
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • The New Zealand Gazette Moves into the Digital Age
    On Monday 20 October, the New Zealand Gazette was published completely online bringing to a close 173 years as a purely printed publication. First published in 1841 as the official government newspaper, the Gazette website gazette.govt.nz , replaces...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • International report shows NZ struggling with child poverty
    A report by UNICEF International shows that child poverty rates in New Zealand have scarcely changed since 2008 – this stands in contrast to a number of other countries that managed to significantly reduce child poverty in this time, including...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Labour leadership candidates in Dunedin
    The four candidates for Labour Leader – Andrew Little, Nanaia Mahuta, David Parker and Grant Robertson - will be in Dunedin on Thursday evening for a Husting meeting with members, as part of fourteen Husting Meetings being held nationwide as...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • UNICEF Report a Waste of Paper
    In response to the hysteria coming from the far left, Josh Forman of slightlyleftofcentre.co.nz writes the following:...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Press Council opens doors to digital media
    The New Zealand Press Council, the body which handles complaints against newspapers and magazines and their websites, is offering associate membership status to news and commentary-oriented digital media including bloggers....
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Tolls Should Be for New Roads, Not Old Ones
    The Taxpayers’ Union is slamming Auckland Council for wanting to introduce a motorist tax under the guise of ‘tolls’. Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director, Jordan Williams, says:...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Media freedom in West Papua: Protest at Indonesian embassy
    Today, Wednesday 29 October, there will be a peaceful protest at the Indonesian Embassy in Wellington to call on new Indonesian President Joko Widodo to honour his election promise to ensure greater media freedom in West Papua....
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Lack of leadership blamed for decline in Gender Equity
    BPW NZ challenges NZ’s lack of leadership with the decline in Gender Equity Ranking...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Richard Falk visit to NZ
    Professor Richard Falk, who recently completed a six-year term as United Nations Special Rapporteur on Palestinian human rights, will deliver a public lecture in Dunedin on Monday 10 November....
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Apprehension for meat workers as employment law bill passes
    The passing of the Employment Relations Amendment Bill today will send a wave of apprehension through the workers in the NZ meat industry says the Meat Workers Union....
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • “Yes to Children, No to Poverty” Says Commissioner
    Children’s Commissioner, Dr Russell Wills will describe impacts of poverty on children, with a focus on local solutions at the Tū Kaha biennial conference for Māori health for the central region DHBs at the Hawke’s Bay Racing Centre in Hastings...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • UNICEF report card highlights need for action
    Unicef’s child poverty report released today shows that New Zealand needs to be more proactive in pursuing policies to protect our most vulnerable members of society....
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Children of the Recession: NZ’s shame
    Children of the Recession : NZ’s shame Media release Wednesday 29 October 2014 “It is to New Zealand’s deepest shame that the latest Unicef report on children living in poverty ranks us 16th out of 41 developed countries. “Every day...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • UNICEF cautions NZ child poverty rates are “stagnating”
    An international report by UNICEF has found that child poverty rates in New Zealand have barely changed since 2008, despite similar sized countries significantly reducing child poverty during the recent recession....
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • TPP Too Important for Compromised Finish
    The New Zealand dairy industry is urging Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) partners not to compromise on the quality of the deal to get it done quickly....
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • Labour leadership candidates in Nelson
    Labour leadership candidates in Nelson The four candidates for Labour Leader – Andrew Little, Nanaia Mahuta, David Parker and Grant Robertson - will be in Nelson on Tuesday evening for a Husting meeting with members, as part of fourteen Husting...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
  • History is made. Equal pay not just legal but possible!
    The New Zealand Nurses Organisation (NZNO) congratulates Kristine Bartlett and the Service and Food Workers Union: Ngā Ringa Tota on their historic win. Today the Court of Appeal dismissed an appeal from Kristine’s employer; opening the way for...
    Scoop politics | 28-10
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