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Privileged try to turn Kiwis against each other

Written By: - Date published: 8:22 am, August 14th, 2012 - 213 comments
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National Party campaign designer John Ansell and Invercargill-based racist Louis Crimp are planning a $2 million campaign to whip up racial hatred between Pakeha and Maori. I don’t think people will be fooled, even if anyone publishes their material. We’ve moved past the Owera days. Everyone will see this is about NACToids’ privilege, not Maori privilege.

In shades of Key’s failed attempt to divide Maori – for the Pakeha audience – between the ‘good’ Iwi Leaders and ‘ bad’ Maori Council, Ansell wants to delegitimise any attempts for justice and advancement for Maori by saying there are ‘grievers and achievers’ among Maori.

The fundamental objective, of course, is to get Pakeha angry at Mori, rather than angry at the tiny rich elite who are getting richer while the rest of us get poorer. Ideally, he would like a Tea Party situation where poor whites blinded by racism fight for the privileges of rich whites.

Ansell says there’s nothing racist about wanting equal rights for all. And there’s not. But that’s not what he and Crimp want. They want the Crown to dishonour a treaty it signed. They want to foment the myth of Maori privilege. They want to stoke up racial division. Crimp and Ansell’s public comments are laden with racism. Ansell came up with the most racist National Party political campaign since the 1970s.

If they really spend $2 million, I think it will inevitably have an effect on people. Although I doubt that the mainstream media will run the level of overtly racist material that Ansell is hinting at when he refers to when he says that he wants to “enrage the public”. That’s not just because media bosses have some standards or because of the BSA and press council consequences – it’s because New Zealanders aren’t as racist as Ansell would like us to believe, or as racist as we once were, and media that run racist ads risk losing customers.

Finally, a wee smack for Farrar. He wrote a post of this so-called ‘Treatygate’ campaign without criticising it. That can only be taken as a tacit endorsement. Now, do I think Farrar’s a racist? No, not an active one. A passive structuralist one, perhaps, but not an active one. But he knows that many of the Right’s hardcore are racist – just look at the comments section below his post. And he knows that the point of encouraging racism in the masses isn’t the racism itself but the distraction and protection it brings for the elite. So, he draws attention to Ansell’s racism without condemning it.

Farrar’s quandary is also a problem for National. Will Key come out and condemn racism from his former ad-man? Or will he be seen as endorsing it?

213 comments on “Privileged try to turn Kiwis against each other”

  1. tracey 1

    *sigh*

    Its interesting that economic equality isnt important to these folks. They dont believe in equality they believe in might is right, be it numerical advantage or financial. They squeal like stuck pigs when anyone steals from them.

    • Gosman 1.1

      Why should it be important to them. Equality is mainly the concern of the left. People on the right are more interested in economic freedoms. You are essentially stating that you think these people should think like you. I certainly wouldn’t want a world where everyone thought pretty much the same.

      • tracey 1.1.1

        except they use equality when they want to remove legal rights from maori… They dont frame it as legal freedom.

        • Gosman 1.1.1.1

          Depends tracey. I think they want everyone to be equal under the law, (that is certainly what they say anyway). Now I’m not sure anyone would disagree with this. The Treaty doesn’t grant Maori any additional legal protection that non-Maori don’t have as far as I am aware.

          • bad12 1.1.1.1.1

            You have that about right, the Treaty of Waitangi was a document outlining Maori property rights and equal rights of British citizens…

            • Gosman 1.1.1.1.1.1

              Exactly. Amazing we actually agree on something here.

            • Colonial Viper 1.1.1.1.1.2

              Nah, from the Maori point of view the Treaty was largely about Rangatiratanga.

              I’m not sure what you guys think that is, but its not accurately translated as “Maori property rights”.

              • Gosman

                However the Brits took the view they were guarranteeing Property and cultural rights in return for Sovereignty. Given the fact that Sovereignty trumps pretty much everything it doesn’t matter much what the Maori thought they were getting.

                • McFlock

                  Assuming that’s the case (big assumption), most treaty claims and settlements are about property and cultural rights, AFAIK.
                           
                  So Crimp and Ansell want what already exists – one law for all?

                  • Gosman

                    Pretty much. Unless they can produce something in the way of evidence that Maori actually do get favourable treatment based on their cultural background. They might have a case for quotas in Tertiary education for example. Then again someother groups also get this I believe.

                    The one area that I would agree with them is on the Maori seats. I used to support the principle of them under FPP as the system was certainly not supportive of minorities getting a good level of representation in Parliament. However MMP has changed this. The only thing the Maori seats do now is to encourage Maori parties to spring up. The idea that a party can somehow reflect the asperations of an entire diverse cultural group is just nuts in my view. It is also ultimately racist.

                    • McFlock

                      lol.
                             
                      A $2mil advertising campaign all about the Maori seats.
                          
                      Why shouldn’t a certain amount of political representation follow existing social structures, rather than just geography? Particularly when it involves one of the two parties to the Treaty? 

                    • Gosman

                      Because it goes againt the notion of a broad based inclusive representative liberal democracy and is potentially divisive to society as a whole.

                      Ask yourself whether the Maori party would exist without the Maori seats and also ask yourself whether a single party can truly represent an entire ethnic group in politics.

                    • McFlock

                      Seriously Gos,
                            
                      You think a few Maori seats are big enough of a deal to raise equivalent advertising revenue to a governing-party re-election campaign?
                             
                      While 20% of our kids live in poverty, you can’t think of a better use for $2million and campaign professionals’ time other than debating whether Maori representation in parliament should be ensured? 
                             
                      While our assets are being sold in a massive and undemocratic waste of money, you want millions spent on the Maori seats?
                             
                      While the Chch “rebuild” limps on, you want millions spent on the Maori seats?
                              
                      While registered unemployment nudges 7%, you want to waste millions on debating the Maori seats? 
                             
                      Nice to know where your priorities lie. 

                    • Gosman

                      Ummmm… no, no I don’t want to do this. If someone else chooses to exercise their DEMOCRATIC right to express and promote an opinion then I am cool with that though.

                      You perhaps would place restrictions on topics that can be discussed in society based on your personal preferences would you?

                    • McFlock

                      If they have the right to spend money on such idiocy, then I have the right to point out how fucked up their priorities are.
                             
                         
                      Love how you went from defending their position to simply defending their right to hold that position (as do I as long as it’s shy of hate speech). Coincidentally when the opportunity cost of spending money on that position was pointed out to you. 

                • Pascal's bookie

                  “Given the fact that Sovereignty trumps pretty much everything it doesn’t matter much what the Maori thought they were getting.”

                  Umm. Who had sovereignty prior to the treaty?

                  If you are going to argue ‘Treaty as contract about property rights’ then what iwi thought they werre getting in return for cedeing soverieignty is vitally important. Surely?

                  • Gosman

                    The trouble for Maori is that under the British system, once they ceeded sovereignty to the Crown they pretty much lost the majority of power.

                    If they had a better understanding of Western systems of government they could have insisted instead on a formal constitutional arrangements whereby their rights could be better protected.

                    However they instead chose to hand over Sovereignty without these guarrantees so now we have a situation whereby their rights are only protected by statute and can be similarily removed via the Government at any stage.

                    That stated there is an moral obligation on the Crown to honour their side of the contract. What this means though has to be worked through politically.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      But hang on, if the treaty was breached then was soveriegnty legitimatly transferred? I’m asking wht you think , based on your commitment to right wing values, and contracts and what not. What political position do you take. Where do yuo start from, in answering the question; What should we do?

                    • Fran

                      Problem with your argument is that Maori would argue that they never handed over sovereignty only governance.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      It would also be helpful if you could explain why you think “it doesn’t matter much what the Maori thought they were getting”, based on those same right wing principles. It’s kind of the crux of the debate really.

                    • Gosman

                      Unfortunately Sovereignty is a little like virginity .Once you give it up it is kind of academic if the person who you gave it to screws you over on any promises made as you can’t really take it back.

                      There were possible ways that Maori could have taken control back though.

                      They could have bred faster and died later than the number of non-Maori arriving here. Then when the Crown handed the control of the Government over to representatives of the people they would have been in the majority and could control the State.

                      Alternatively they could have won any of the numerous Wars with the British during the 19th Century and declared themselves independent and got some other nations to recognise that and stop the British from trying to reclaim Sovereignty by force.

                      They failed to do any of these options which means they are limited to the moral persuassion argument. There is no legal option open to them.

                    • Gosman

                      @ Fran.

                      Irrelevant. The British, and other nations, recognised what the Maori were signing away was their Sovereignty. That is all the British needed. It really doesn’t matter if the Maori say we only wanted to be ‘governed’ , (whatever that vague term actually means) by you.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      All very fascinating I’m sure, but

                      I’m asking what you think , based on your commitment to right wing values, and contracts and what not. What political position do you take. Where do you start from, in answering the question; What should we do?

                      based on your values, where do you, Gosman, stand in the debate?

                      Seems to me that if you don’t stand with iwi then your stated values aren’t worth a bucket of piss Gos, but that does leave the question of why you think it doesn’t matter what iwi thought they were getting.

                      You can step outside the argument and say, ‘oh it doesn’t matter because facts on the ground changed everything'; but, when you say that it has to be resolved politically, you pretty much have to step back into the argument and say what your values lead you to believe ought to happen.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Though I must say it’s fascinating to see you come right and say that you view the treaty as a contract, and that one party to that contract’s views, (about the nature of that contract), just don’t matter.

                    • Gosman

                      I’ve already stated where I stand on this issue in my reply to mickeysavage. You must have missed that.

                      My point about the Maori position is that when they gave away sovereignty the way they did then it really doesn’t matter what they thought they were protecting.

                      Thre only authority they have for protection of their rights is a moral case. They have been reasonably successful recently using this to get acknowledgment of past wrongs and a certain amount of compensation for the contract breech.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Yeah, I read that, but I was after some clarity.

                      You made some pretty words about sanctity of contract, and how, on your honour as a right winger and by the hairs on your chinny chin chin, of course you think the treaty should be honoured.

                      And in the next paragraph, (and in this subthread), you introduced this idea that what iwi thought about what was/is in the ‘contract’ just ‘doesn’t matter’.

                      Now I’m just silly lefty of course, so I’m having a hard time understanding what ‘sancitity of contract’ means in a context where one parties beliefs about the contract don’t matter. That’s what I’m seeking clarity on. Is it a sanctified contract, cherished in the bosom of right wing thought, if one side can dictate what the other sides terms really are? Define this ‘contract’ for me.

                      And you point about moral force or what have you also alludes me. Pretty sure the Treaty can still be used din court. Pretty sure it carries legal weight. And even without the treaty, iwi have recourse to UN agreements that we have signed up to, fully enforceable by the courts in NZ.

                    • Gosman

                      The two positions are not irreconcilable.

                      The Maori signed away their sovereignty. That is a given. It is implicitedly acknowledged by the rest of the world in that the NZ Government, as opposed to a collection of Iwi, is recognised as having Sovereignty over the country by international bodies and most other nations

                      The Maori chiefs who signed the treaty did not get their rights codified in any constitutionsal manner. They signed up for the British system of Government which, unfortunately for them, allows the Crown an awful lot a lee way in determining such matters such as rights.

                      Essentially they have only a moral case to be made for honouring the Treaty. In this they have my support for much of their position especially around property rights and protection and promotion of their culture and language.

                      I also don’t think their moral argument case extends as far as some in the Maori communtiy would like to think. I personally think they start losing the argument when they start pushing for rights that were unknown when the treaty was signed. Hence I believe a strong case can be made for acknowledgment and recompense for land confiscations but I am unsupportive of claims like the one over Water rights.

                      However I am even cool with them receiving such rights if they become transferable. If they are able to sell such rights on the open market then it might even be a good thing.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Not seeing how ‘sanctity of contract’ informs that reasoning Gos.

                      Starting to think it’s a bit of a myth you like to tell yourself.

                      Try again perhaps.

                      How about start with this…

                      “The crown’s moral claim to sovereignty in NZ is based on …”

                      And remember, ‘sanctity of contract’.

                    • Gosman

                      Morality and Sovereignty have very little to do with each other.

                      Tell me what is moral about Sovereignty being vested in a single individual by dint of an accident of birth and a very bloody history?

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Nothing at all, which is why the english civil war happened. You may not have noticed Gos, but the monarch doen’t have much in the way of sovereign power. We have aconstitutional monarchy, rather than an absolute one.

                      Pretty convinced now that you aren’t one who should be lecturing iwi about the system they signed up for, or the manner in which they did so, or what any of that means today.

                      Also pretty sure you aren’t going to clarify the issue about what you mean by sanctity of contract either, with regard to what duty one party has to the other.

                      Oh well. Always figured it was not much more than pretty sounding words. Bit sad to have it confirmed in your case Gos.

                    • Gosman

                      I think I have detailed my view of what it means around the contract that was signed being sacrosanct. This means that the Crown has a moral obligation to attempt to honour the nature of what was signed. The question becomes what was the nature of what was signed. I have a more limited view of this than perhaps you do.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      This means that the Crown has a moral obligation to attempt to honour the nature of what was signed. The question becomes what was the nature of what was signed. I have a more limited view of this than perhaps you do.

                      huzzah! We are possibly getting somewhere.

                      Now, when working out the nature of what was signed, is what iwi thought, and think today, relevant. You have previoulsy said that it is not important, or doesn’t matter. You can revise this if you like, as it seems to be based not on the sanctity of contract principle, but on a ‘facts on the ground one’.

                      That latter case amounts to, ‘we cheated you fair and square, and now we’ve got all the guns, so let’s renogiate and see what you can get’ which doesn’t seem too sanctimonious to me.

                      So how do we decide what the deal was?

                      I say we let the courts decide. My opinion, or yours, about whether or not it includes water or what-have-you are not relevant. If they want to avoid court, they can negotiate of course. The base position however, as far as I can tell, is that unless the crown can show that it took possession of something legally and explicitly, then it remains in native title. Seems logical, no?

                    • Fran

                      Again rather large problem with your thesis. My understanding is that where a treaty is delivered in both the indigenous language and that of the colonisers then it is the indigenous version which has standing in international law so whether the British thought that Maori were handing over sovereignty is irrelevant. It is what Maori thought they were handing over that matters.

                    • Gosman

                      Name me one country or international authority that disputes the sovereignty of the Crown in NZ then.

                    • Pascal's bookie

                      Tell me why those opinions should interfere in the sanctity of contract.

          • tracey 1.1.1.1.2

            you are right the maori are seeking to enforce their legal rights not ask for special treatment as frequently implied by those from the right.

      • mickysavage 1.1.2

        So Gossie

        If your family owned land for centuries until one day it was taken off them by force even though the taker had previously signed a contract saying they would not do this, would you feel just a little bit aggrieved? 

        • Gosman 1.1.2.1

          I don’t know why you are addressing this to me. I’m a firm believer in the Treaty being essentially a contract guarranteeing certain property and cultural rights in exchange for Sovereignty. Contracts and property rights are sacrosanct in right wing politics.

          The only real question becomes though what property rights were protected and the degree of sovereignty that was given up. I tend to take the view that the property rights being protected do not include modern day definitions of terms like Water rights and that the sovereignty the Maori passed overwas absolute. The British crown has the ultimate authority in terms of determining the law of the land.

          • tracey 1.1.2.1.1

            well, i think we would all agree the water was already here before the treaty of waitangi and just because its use has changed doesnt change rights. I still own my house even if someone can make more money turning it into a restaurant.

            You might want to read up on contra proferentum to get a better understanding of the british law around the treaty and interpretation.

            • Gosman 1.1.2.1.1.1

              Changing use does impact on rights. It would be foolish to argue otherwise. The State has altered all sorts of property rights over the years due to changing usage.

      • Draco T Bastard 1.1.3

        People on the right are more interested in economic freedoms.

        No they’re not, or, to be more precise, they want economic freedom for themselves while everyone else is forced to work to make them richer.

        • Gosman 1.1.3.1

          In your opinion.

          How’s your effort at overthrowing the status quo going?

          Have you done anything practical on this front? Did you at least think about the idea of setting up a website to attract like minded people? There must be at least half a dozen of you out there.

          • tracey 1.1.3.1.1

            a majority thought the earth was flat, so is your point that nothing must ever change if the majority think its right

            • Gosman 1.1.3.1.1.1

              No that is not my opinion. I don’t know why you would think it would be.

              • McFlock

                swings and roundabouts, or pendulumous.
                       
                ’tis true we’re in a bit of an intellectual regression, like a miniNZ Dark Age, but I have faith in human nature. The pendulum will swing back to the left when people encounter enough ugly scrotes like Gos. 

                • Gosman

                  The level of your intellectual arrogance is a wonder to behold McFlap. I wonder how you deal with your abnormally large ego. It must get in the way of certain normal human interactions a lot of the time.

                  • McFlock

                    The arrogance is in someone who believes that history will suddenly change its practise of expansion:retrenchment of human rights and egalitarianism.
                          
                    Not that I’d expect you to know a damned thing about history.
                               
                    Even with the broadest regard for history, you are a fool. Several hundred years ago political and economic power was centred around a very small proportion of the population in any developed society you care to mention. Now, this power is much less concentrated, but becoming moreso again.
                         
                    For us to be swinging to the right, yet still be farther left than historical societies, we need to have swung farther left. So a pendulum analogy is apt. You fucking trool. 

            • Murray Olsen 1.1.3.1.1.2

              It wouldn’t matter to right wingers if either a majority or a minority thought the world were flat. They’d go along with whichever view made their paymasters richer. They have absolutely no belief in the sanctity of contract either, unless they gain more from holding to the contract. The right has no values except for that which benefit the rich, with who is rich being defined more narrowly by the day.

          • Draco T Bastard 1.1.3.1.2

            In your opinion.

            When you consider what actually happens under the policies that they want then no, it’s not opinion – it’s simple fact. Under their policies the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the poor are forced to work to make them richer as they have no other means of supporting themselves because the rich have control of all the wealth.

      • mike e 1.1.4

        Goose the people on the right are against economic freedom all they want is monopolies.
        And are racist because they can gather votes by taking the side of the bigoted impoverished . playing them off against each other.
        If Maori had their rights conferred instead of denied 172 years ago you would be picking on some other racial minority.

        • Gosman 1.1.4.1

          Once again you have a mindless brain fart on to the comments section of a post at The Standard. Your parents must be so very proud of you.

          • mike e 1.1.4.1.1

            Anything you say goosstepper.
            Doe that mean you parents weren’t proud of you.
            So you joined the neo liberal cult of the emotionally alouf.
            Quite happy to have young Kiwis go of and die in an unwinable war.

      • Polish Pride 1.1.5

        Gosman – do not delude yourself Whether you are talking Right or Left in this system BOTH sides are about the ‘Redistribution of Wealth’.
        The Left through taxation to give to the poor and pay for any number of services they think should be provided.
        The Right through changes to Labour laws removing workers rights, coupled with a fairly open immigration policy that when combined (or even on their own result in downward pressure on wages
        or through Corporate welfare paid for via taxes
        Or through restructures of organisations that cull middle management and worker positions.
        All of these Right wing policies are about redistribution of wealth upwards to CEOs and shareholders.
        So do not delude yourself and say it is about wanting economic freedom.

        • Gosman 1.1.5.1

          Do you have any actual evidence that this is their purpose or is this part of the giant right wing conspiracy that means only those in the know have the actual detail? I suspect it is merely your biased ideological view point only.

          • Polish Pride 1.1.5.1.1

            You mean apart from living in our society for many many years and seeing it with my own eyes and working it out with an intelligent mind and the ability to think for myself.
            It is common sense – Do you think each side does it for fun!?! or just for the hell of it perhaps!?!

            Interesting that on understanding this I gave up Right vs Left a few years ago. I now prefer to run with a little concept I like to call ‘right vs wrong’ It seems to serve me pretty will in sniffing out BS in this world.

            What sort of propoganda is they do it cause the want ‘Economic Freedom’!?! They do it because they want more money, more wealth!

            • Gosman 1.1.5.1.1.1

              So no real evidence then. Just your personal opinion.

              • Polish Pride

                What are you after? Perhaps you’d like to see the financials of companies that have employed such practices so that you can see the increase in profit. Perhaps you aren’t aware of the multi million dollar salaries now paid to CEOs.
                I forgot one too – offshoring company operations does the same thing.
                Do you actually believe there is no redistribution of wealth occuring when these activities occur happens.
                Why change labour laws, why remove Penal rates back in the day if not to reduce the cost of wages and provide more profit to the shareholder….
                Why have CEOs Salaries been able to increase so significantly in my lifetime.
                Before you keep going down this track I have been in business (still am). I have worked on projects for companies to enable them to do this so I am speaking from a little thing called personal experience with my observations.

                Do you have the ability to think for yourself? Here’s a concept for you to consider..

                Do you know that your TV works because you sit there and can observe that it is on, or is that just your opinion.

                Here’s another – you’d probably be a lot smarter if you got rid of it.

                • Gosman

                  Increased profits are bad are they? Interesting idea. Since you think you have a handle on this I’m sure you will be able to inform me what the average profit growth for NZ based companies has been over the past few years. This would actually go someway towards providing evidence for your view point. Surely you aren’t making your claims without researching this.

                  • Polish Pride

                    What so to help illustrate your argument you pick the years in which we are sufferring an economic downturn! Seriously! how dishonest can you get?
                    The average has nothing to do with it as some companies have employed these practices some have not. You would have to only look at the results from companies that have employed these practices. Or perhaps been in companies that have done this, or owned one yourself and seen the results first hand. Check, check.
                    I am not sure if you are purposely avoiding questions put to you such as

                    Do you actually believe there is no redistribution of wealth occuring when these activities occur happens?

                    Or whether you are purposely framing your responses to be void of ‘common sense’ on the issue but either way you are doing a stellar job.

                    Oh and if you do want an actual opinion on this matter. There is no better way tho understand these concepts than having been involved and having experienced them and their results first hand. But then I am sure you have at least some personal experience in this area.. right!! Please at least tell me you have experience! Or is it just ‘your’ opinion you are relying on to counter my argument..!?!

                    • Gosman

                      So what years would you prefer to pick then? Give me a ten year range where you show sustained increase in return on Shareholder assets for NZ companies.

                    • Gosman

                      Heck, you can even choose a dozen or so companies that have followed the approach that you abhore so much to compare. I suspect you will find it difficult to find many whose growth in Profits was much more than the overall economic growth of the country as a whole over a ten year period.

                    • Polish Pride

                      I suspected you would avoid all my questions for you so I’ll take that as confirmation you have zip experience and we are running on your opinion alone for the counter arguement.
                      But how about we don’t go for a 10 year range how about we pick one company or better yet how about I give you a list to pick from. You go away and research them an come back and tell me what you find. But look at the companies evolution since it began not just 10 years.

                      Exxon Mobil
                      Walmart
                      Chevron
                      Conoco Phillips
                      General Motors
                      General Electric
                      Microsoft
                      Nike
                      Goldman Sachs
                      Monsanto

                      After all we’d want to look at the most successful companies in the world and the practices they have employed to prove or disprove the validity of this point wouldn’t we.

                      oh and pay particular attention to the oil companies who increased their profits during the economic downturn. Feel free to check out a few of the largest banks in the world while you’re at it.

                      Seems you have a lot to learn about statistics too. Statistics are often more interesting for what they don’t show more so than what they do. Always keep that in mind it will serve you well when presented with stats from the left, or when presenting stats from the right.

                    • Polish Pride

                      Btw No one said I ‘abhore’ anything! It is simply that I undestand what both sides try to do and why the Left vs Right paradigm as a result can never actually solve any of the real problems society is faced with. Once people let go of Left vs Right only then will we start to make progress.

                    • framu

                      polish – dont worry too much about trying to argue with gossamer

                      Despite any evidence you put up – it would never engage honestly anyway – it will always shift the goalposts and deny that the sky is blue

                    • Gosman

                      I don’t think many of these are NZ companies. I thought you stated there was evidence for this in NZ. Is this not the case now?

                      BTW how does Microsoft exploit their staff to increase profits?

                    • Polish Pride

                      Thanks for the heads up Framu – I particularly liked your use of the word ‘it’ in reference to this fruitloop :)

                    • Draco T Bastard

                      Polish Pride, There’s really no point in engaging Gosman – he really won’t change his mind no matter what evidence or argument you put to him and he won’t supply any evidence himself to support his own beliefs.

                    • Gosman

                      So you’ve given up defending your frankly ridiculous asertion about increase of profits have you?

                    • Polish Pride

                      “I don’t think many of these are NZ companies. I thought you stated there was evidence for this in NZ. Is this not the case now?”

                      Then you thought wrong Gosman. Left vs Right and the redistribution of wealth is happening in many places around the world. I never mentioned that the paradigm was soley at work in New Zealand. It is not.
                      But if you’d like an NZ example. My company has increased turnover twofold and has increased profit in the last three years. we have ‘restructured’ twice in this time.
                      If you’d like one that you can research try Infratil.

                      “BTW how does Microsoft exploit their staff to increase profits?”

                      By structuring their business offshore in a way that they pay significantly less tax in their country of origin resulting in a need to tax the working class or salary and wage earners at a higher rate allowing them to increase profits and pay CEOs higher salaries.

                      Google Microsoft restructure – the first 4 of 5 results talk about staffing ‘restructures’.

                      Then google Microsoft Offshore – the first two results talk about shipping jobs overseas.

                      I am beginning to think that you live in a bubble sheltered from how the world really works.

                      All so in case you haven’t figured it out yet it was game set and match a long time ago..
                      Go back home and play with the other kids on your block sunshine.
                      You are now just wasting my time!

                    • felix

                      “I particularly liked your use of the word ‘it’ in reference to this fruitloop”

                      Yes, it has never produced any evidence that it isn’t a bot so according to its own rules it is fair to assume that it is one.

                    • Gosman

                      I’m just testing how robust Polish Pride’s view point was DTB. The answer is not very robust at all.

                      Made any effort to take over the Government today?

                    • Gosman

                      Pretty damning that you got shown up by a bot then felix. That kind of speaks volumes about your abilities, or lack there of.

                    • felix

                      Yawn.

                    • Gosman

                      Bravo. The most useful contribution you have made to a discussion in quite a while felix.

                    • Gosman

                      Wow Polish Pride. I did take a look at Microsoft and it looks like their profit margin has been drifting DOWNWARDS over the past few years.

                      http://ycharts.com/companies/MSFT/chart#series=type:company,id:MSFT,calc:gross_profit_margin&zoom=10&startDate=&endDate=&format=real&recessions=false

                    • Polish Pride

                      Gosman – Yes, that would be as a result of the economic downturn. You know the one that the entire world living outside your bubble know about.

                      Profit going up or down alone is not cannot be used as the sole basis for determining whether or not companies have employed those practices to redistribute wealth upwards. Like I said look at their entire history see if they have employed the practices I talked about bubble boy.
                      Then when your done their look at the other companies I gave you including Infratil.

                    • Polish Pride

                      Bubble go take a look at comment number 27….:)

      • blue leopard 1.1.6

        Gosman

        “People on the right are more interested in economic freedoms.”

        Inequality creates lack of economic freedom for large numbers of people, so perhaps you should qualify this statement to make it more correct:

        “People on the right are more interested in economic freedoms for themselves regardless of anyone else”

        • OneTrack 1.1.6.1

          People on the right tend to be more interested in freedom. People on the left, not so much.

          Fify

          • blue leopard 1.1.6.1.1

            @OneTrack

            Bollocks, thats simply a form of propaganda you are spouting there.

            Correction:

            People on the right tend to be more interested in their own freedom regardless of the effect such has on others’ freedoms

    • Dr Terry 1.2

      Now prepare for another Gosman controlled comments column! Suggest you look for something more relevant and interesting.

      • Dr Terry 1.2.1

        The above was intended to appear at the top!

      • framu 1.2.2

        i agree – c’mon folks. Not that hes new to this tactic – but gossamer is just doing a pete g.

        Ok sometimes it present just to good a target to resist – but as the saying goes – DNFTT

  2. ad 2

    Here’s a hope: The Orewa Speech vs Foreshore March Spring Tide – Neap Tide binge-purge cycle has gone. Key whistled as loud as he could to race during the Waitangi Tribunal water debate and fewer dogs came running.

    They still ran to him for sure. But fewer.

    I (hopefully) predict that this campaign will not have as much impact as it once would have.

  3. Dominic 3

    This whole thing has got me in a rage, but not for the reasons Ansell wanted. The way he says:

    “We should be saying ‘Look, show a bit more gratitude and get your hands back in your pockets, stop expecting money from other people, look to yourselves’,”

    With the same notions of the Kiwi/Iwi campaign, talking about “we” in a way which asserts pakeha as the dominant norm and Maori (or anything else) as different and the “other”. It’s like when people say “we are all New Zealanders” but what they really mean is ‘if you look like me you are’.

    What scares me is the fact that so many New Zealanders think like this and don’t know their own history. Resurrect Michael King!!

    • tracey 3.1

      Why is it so hard for some to understand the difference between enforcing/testing a legal right and asking for a handout.

      • Polish Pride 3.1.1

        No problem with that statenment but more than that is going on. When I grew up with a very good dose of Maori culture I was told that Maori do not consider themselves owners of the land or anything else. They are the caretakers of it and it is more correct to say it is they who belong to the Land not the other way around. This was something I was very proud of. It is no longer the case as now it is all about ownership. This is however a product of the system we have today in my view.

        That said if all Maori were benefiting then I might be comfortable with it but most Maori do not see any benefits from Treaty Settlements. The Cororate Elite Maori see plenty…

        • Gosman 3.1.1.1

          Maori caretakers of the land? Hmmmmm…. Not sure they did a great job of that considering the amount of forest cover lost under their ‘care’ and the fact they killed off the largest land animal in the country.

          • mike e 3.1.1.1.1

            goosestepper read the title of the page.
            Maori have changed just like the rest of us have changed but you are still the fermenter of cynicism and racism just proving the title of this column.

            • Gosman 3.1.1.1.1.1

              And you once again offer nothing to this debate except childish personal attacks on me.

              Perhaps you should learn some other ways of expressing opinions. In the real world attacking people personally tends to backfire and be unproductive (although you could get a job in a political campaign designing silly attack ads I suppose. They would be spectactularly laugable I suspect).

              • mike e

                So whats your angle goose offering nothing but racist forment and thinking that isn’t out of date you continually denegrate just about everybody who present hard facts including your own facts which have largely backfired.
                You are just a pathetic tory wind up Tr oll who can’t help himself but keep up boderline cyniscism.

                • Gosman

                  Where have I formented any racist views? I take objection to unsubstatiated claims such as this.

                  Are you going to back your allegation up or is this another one of your baseless cowardly personal attacks?

                  • King Kong

                    I would let it slide Gosman.

                    From the way he writes I think he might be retarded.

                    • mike e

                      that would put me in your league KK although their might be hope for you yet as the missing link has been redefined. Neanderthals

                    • Gosman

                      I suspect as much as well. Either that or he is being home schooled by some radical leftist family and has recently discovered the internet.

                      Edit: And as if on cue mike eeeeeee posts and provides evidence for the retard hypothesis.

                    • mike e

                      Whats this personal attacks thats all you have goose.
                      Above you claim you aren’t a racist but always have to have a we dig
                      just enough not to offend any one but Maori.
                      Cyniscism is all your about nothing more nothing less.

                    • Gosman

                      No evidence of any racist statements from me then? I thought not.

          • Polish Pride 3.1.1.1.2

            The majority of deforestation came at the hands of Europeans..

            • Gosman 3.1.1.1.2.1

              So? I don’t believe NZ European’s have ever made a case that their culture has a special affinity with the land and that they are the guardians of it. Individual ones may have but not the entire culture and certainly not in the 19th and early 20th Century where most of the forest cover was removed.

            • mike 3.1.1.1.2.2

              You are new here PP but you’ll quickly identify the time-wasting conversation-hijacking wannabe provocateur trolls like Gosman and King Kong. Just as quickly you’ll realize that engaging them in reasoned debate is pointless, you’d be better off banging your head against a wall. Then you’ll see that any obligation you might have felt to response to their puerile taunts is purely illusory. Best is to ignore, or join the conversation somewhere else.

  4. ChrisH 4

    Having Louis Crimp involved will discredit it from day one. Did you see him on the TV with that female reporter? He shouldn’t be allowed out, IMHO, an opinion that Steve Braunias also appears to share… http://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-herald/opinion/steve-braunias/6989030/The-Secret-Diary-of-Louis-Crimp

    • shorts 4.1

      agree – Crimp is toxic… his involvement will enrage Kiwis – against the campaign and rightly so

      • mike 4.1.1

        This guy? http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10806938 He’s like a cartoon character called Mr B.Got or something.

        “Act’s president, Chris Simmons, said he disagreed with Mr Crimp on some areas but respected his right to have a view. He said he saw Maori culture as “part of our culture”.
        “One of the beauties of the Act Party is we believe everyone should have their say.
        “That’s his view.”
        Mr Simmons said the party would take Mr Crimp’s money again.
        Mr Banks, Act’s sole MP, did not respond to calls.”

        Good job Act, go ahead and grab another nail for your own coffin.

        Still, Simmons must know that his party will evaporate come 2014, so I guess why wouldn’t they squeeze another $125,000 out of this narcissistic racist wanker while they can? If this fool actually thinks that John Banks really gives a toss about ‘doing something about the Maaris’ when in fact his only role is licking John Key’s face, then he deserves to be strung along.

  5. chris73 5

    Didn’t think they needed a campaign, the Maori elite are doing a fine job of it themselves.

  6. ChrisH 6

    Oh yeah this too: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=10807572 . I’m still not convinced that Crimp isn’t a made-up character, an incredibly dry pisstake in the style of John Clark, only more extended like the Yes Men or Ern Malley http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ern_Malley : “Let’s create this red-neck businessman from Invercargill … no, Palmerston North … no, Hastings … oh alright Invercargill it is then!” Are Farrar and Ansell in on the Act (no pun intended?) OMG what if they are not?

    • tc 6.1

      Just another Hollowman so yes he’s is sort of made up of a shell with no substance beyond racism and enjoyment at creating division.

    • aj 6.2

      Unfortunately he is real, but I can assure you he is widely disliked in the far south because of the way he conducted business dealings a few decades ago.

    • weka 6.3

      Nah, Crimp’s been around for a very long time. People have posted in comments about his history before, if you want to look it up.

  7. I’ll point out that it is entirely possible to write about something uncritically without it being a tacit endorsement. I wrote an essay sometime ago about the rise of the Nazi party but that doesn’t make me tangentially supportive of the Nazi’s. 

    Read in that what you will re: Farrar (I haven’t actually read his post) but not critical =/= tacit endorsement. 

    • Te Reo Putake 7.1

      Wrong. Your essay was a critical analysis (I’m assuming that you got a pass mark for it). Farrar has simply posted the Ansell filth uncritically. I see that they have recruited Rodney Hide to run the lines from another angle, too.

      • You’ve read my essay? Weird considering it was never submitted anywhere and was written as a practice exercise for myself and myself only. Interesting.

        But writing about something doesn’t imply support or endorsement.
        A description of a persons position does not mean endorsement. 

        I don’t agree with the current asset sale program but i could easily write something uncritical about it. 

        • Te Reo Putake 7.1.1.1

          Weird that you don’t know what ‘essay’ means, TC. And even weirder that you spend your spare time writing uncritical essays about N@zi’s. 

          • TheContrarian 7.1.1.1.1

            I know what an essay is.

            I set myself a writing exercise before I started a semester on WW2. I was out of practice so gave myself a writing exercise. Not really that unusual. 

            But the point is you can write about something without taking a critical position on it. 

            • bbfloyd 7.1.1.1.1.1

              Your deliberate naivete would be charming little conti….But then, when reality is applied to your logic, that naivete turns to cynicism….

              Even those who inhabit that tory dream world so popular amongst conservative “intellectuals” understand that a review of a blatantly political tract can’t be “neutral” unless it is written as an educational exercise… Which would be an invitation to the students reading it to an analysis…

              David Farrar is NOT writing his pieces as an effort to educate…. He writes tory propaganda for the consumption of the kind of racist that supports national…..

              Insulting the intelligence of people on this site does nothing more than reinforce your already very low standing with thinking people…..

              I still have the number of that therapist i recommended to you earlier… The sooner you deal with your demons, the better, for all concerned…

      • tc 7.1.2

        Wondered were the yellow suited servant of the Hollowmen had gone, no surprises here.

        Maybe the MSM can ask him some searching questions on behalf of akl ratepayers about the true cost of amalgamation that him and Shonkey dumped on them and ran away leaving the likes of Brewer and Fletcher to undermine the Mayor as Jonny ‘washed up on the’ Banks missed out.

        • OneTrack 7.1.2.1

          You mean the left wing mayor that can’t see anything that he doesn’t want to spend ratepayers money on?

        • weka 7.1.3.1

          And there we have our own PG supporting Ansell’s referendum.
           
          http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2012/08/critic_on_treatygate.html#comment-1008645
           
          Good on toad for getting in first.

          • TheContrarian 7.1.3.1.1

            If the is the article in question it would seems Farrar is actually commenting on the response by Critic, not the campaign itself which renders the mention of Farrar in this posting irrelevant. 

            • Gosman 7.1.3.1.1.1

              Trouble is this is The Standard. That means many of the commentators can’t resist bringing Farrar into any topic. It could be about Rugby Union and I’m sure someone here will try and make the case that David Farrar is evil personified due to his position on the topic.

            • Galeandra 7.1.3.1.1.2

              He’s also indicating tacit consent to its racism with his innocent musings about signature collecting and the downstream outcomes of a CIR:

              ” I guess the Greens will not be using taxpayer funding to hire staff to colect signatures for this one!

              But Labour and the Greens are insisting that a CIR trumps an election mandate. So if this CIR does happen, and gets majority support, will they adopt it as policy?”

              So he is giving uncritical acceptance of the project; ‘silence’ giving implicit ‘consent’. For him it’s just a laugh, a chance to poke borax at the Greens.

              I guess his racism is just like your facism, there but mostly below the radar.

              Be more self-critical with your essay writing.

          • mike e 7.1.3.1.2

            I’ll have to give PG some credit their he stood up to the racist comments and explained himself quiet well good on you pete.

          • mike e 7.1.3.1.3

            further down kb pg actually takes them apart Weka.I think or hope he was bringing their tactics out to show people their skulduggery.

        • felix 7.1.3.2

          I think Farrar has pretty well covered himself by just re-publishing someone else’s article uncritically, which is quite different to, for example, re-publishing Ansell’s original announcement uncritically.

          (Which, incidentally, is exactly what our friend Pete George has done in the comment weka linked to above.)

  8. Vivienne 8

    We have a Human Rights Commission in NZ. We already see that NACT is breaching the Univeral Declaration on Human Rights which we as a Nation are charged to uphold.

    If this is true and they run it. What will be done to counter it?

  9. xtasy 9

    Well, I would not be quite so optimistic about this, just have a look at the support Rodney Hide already gets from the hard-nosed hate brigade for his attack on the Waitangi Tribunal, Maori Council and iwis:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10826283

    Something dressed up as that kind of “criticism” appears to get quite some appeal. Society is divided, many are not doing well, so a scape-goat is looked for and easily found.

    There is a hard core, but there are also others very willing to join in on finger pointing, name calling and even racist attacks. Same like “bene bashing”, it is sadly a sign of the times in broken NZ.

    • weka 9.1

      I liked this comment
       

      Lloyd (Takaka)
      09:24 AM Sunday, 12 Aug 2012
      Rodney Hide calling for an end to a gravy train – now I’ve read everything.
       
  10. prism 10

    Eddie – You’ve transposed letters – it’s Orewa.

  11. Jim Nald 11

    Some of our publicly respected NZers, from a range of ethnicities, and all progressive Parliamentarians should speak out and exhort us all to rise up to be better, to do better, echoing the words of our national anthem:

    “Let our cause be just and right

    From dissension, envy, hate,
    And corruption guard our state,
    Make our country good and great

    … love and truth to [all]“

  12. Tom 12

    Is Crimp a caricature ?

    The Southland Times describes him as the ‘Godfather of Pokies’ in Invercargill.

    It raises the prospect of this campaign being funded by deep-pocketed gambling interests,
    who may themselves be proxies for others.

    It certainly deserves scrutiny, if not a Commission of Inquiry ..

    • aj 12.1

      He diverted pokie profits from one of his bars into his own pockets, when running as an ACT candidate in the…..1990’s? … I believe this was widely reported at the time. Need we say anymore?

      • aj 12.1.1

        From:

        http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/opinion/6161056/Editorial-A-bit-rich-Louis

        Mr Crimp is in no position to rail, with any integrity, against the foundation’s use of pokie proceeds.

        He has, himself, been one of the grandfathers of the pokies industry in Invercargill, albeit in rivalry with the trust. So his contempt can hardly stem from holding the machines themselves to be an intolerable social harm.

        Far from overbrimming with sympathy for the problems of pokie addiction, he wrote to our public opinion column in April referring witheringly to “the suckers who addict themselves to poker machines”.

        Much as he criticises the foundation for “making donations to doubtful charities” it has never been pinged for doing so. In fact, the ILT skites, and not without evidence, that it is regarded by governmental watchdogs as a role model for returning proceeds to the community.

        By shabby contrast it is Mr Crimp who has been caught up in notorious and inglorious misuses of pokie funds. This was in the 1990s, and involved decisions so imperious that they offended rules that were less strict than they are now.

        The Southland Pool Players’ Club, upon whose executive Mr Crimp had been a member, dispensed the money from pokies at one of Mr Crimp’s most high-profile establishments, Players’ pool hall, for a team of nine members, including Mr Crimp, to attend a pool competition in Australia. This was just part of what Internal Affairs inspectors described as “gross misapplication of proceeds”.

        Undaunted, as he so often is, by official disapproval, Mr Crimp had then stuck his hand out for Players’ pokie profits to help pay the 1998 election expenses of Southland Action, a group of candidates which he led into the Invercargill City Council election race.

        It came as scant surprise when Internal Affairs wanted money repaid, and stripped Players of its gaming licence.

    • Gosman 12.2

      You are the Green party personified and I claim my 100 dollars.

  13. KJT 13

    Using social insurance/welfare recipients as New Zealand’s Jews is obviously not working as well as expected.

  14. KJT 14

    As a socialist I disagree with birthright separatism.

    Apart from what should be everyone’s birthright in a country like ours. Enough to basically live on, feed, house and look after ones health and reasonably participate in society. A minimum income..

    Everything else should have to be earned according to ones contribution to society.

    This is closer to original Maori ideas of property, and European Ideas of the commons (Such as the “Charter of the Forest) than current arrangements.

    RWNJ’s, however are totally inconsistent in asking for “one rule for all”.
    They expect property rights they have gained in the “Ovarian lottery” (Hat tip to W Buffet) to be respected, but not those of Maori.
    When private individuals are allowed to make money out of what was formerly Maori “Commons” then Maori are quite correct in asking for a share. “One law for all”
    If we allow Pakeha to hang onto ill gotten inherited gains then it is a moral imperative to at least try and compensate Maori in some way for the loss of land, they owned.

    A better resolution to the FS and SB may have been to say all FS and SB is “commons”, with local Iwi rights of guardianship, and compensate both Maori and Pakeha owners accordingly. “Again One law for all”. Instead of a unilateral abrogation of Maori rights only.

    • Polish Pride 14.1

      “Everything else should have to be earned according to ones contribution to society”

      As long as people hold onto this type of notion the society we live in will always have its have’s and have nots. The gap between the two will be determined by the system of the day and what it allows. Currently our system is geared towards ‘Profit and the accumulation of capital above all else’. Maori are simply now playing the game with the rules allowed as set down by the current system.

      “A better resolution to the FS and SB may have been to say all FS and SB is “commons”, with local Iwi rights of guardianship, and compensate both Maori and Pakeha owners accordingly. “Again One law for all”. Instead of a unilateral abrogation of Maori rights only.”

      Brilliant idea..!

      • KJT 14.1.1

        With a minimum income, and preventing accumulation of wealth over generations, you will have haves and more haves, not have nots.

        That resolution for the FS and SB was not my idea. I think it came from either P Sharples or Hone. I’ve always thought it was a good way of sorting it.

        Note that Maori, historically, have only claimed property rights on such things when private interests were given property rights. Such as fish farms in the sounds.

        • Polish Pride 14.1.1.1

          getting off topic but fail to see how you would prevent accumulation of wealth over generations in such a system..
          You already know my views on what the system should be …and probably best not to start again here :)

  15. captain hook 15

    just another claque of addle pated noo noo heads who think the ability to aquire money is the same thing as being intelligent.
    ansell and crimp are just guys with big heads and very small dicks.

  16. blue leopard 16

    Having viewed the amount of positive responses from the public to Holme’s obnoxious diatribe on this year’s Waitangi Day, compared to any response of horror over such racism, I do not feel confident that this approach of divide and rule re Pakeha and Maori won’t “work”.

    And if the intended approach this article speaks of is not illegal, it should be.

    • Gosman 16.1

      Free speech should be illegal should it? Interesting totalitarian view of the world you have if that is indeed your view point.

      • Polish Pride 16.1.1

        Speech that is designed to actively promote and foster hate….possibly yes.

      • blue leopard 16.1.2

        Gosman

        I suggested that oppressive moronic disinformation should be illegal

        Where do you get the “free speech” bit from??

        • Gosman 16.1.2.1

          Classic. I suspect you don’t even realise you shot yourself in the foot with that last comment.

          • blue leopard 16.1.2.1.1

            Gosman

            Lol…so, you are unable to put up any real argument toward how the intended approach this article speaks should be illegal then, I take it?

            Not surprised. There isn’t one

            • Gosman 16.1.2.1.1.1

              I don’t need to. It is you who obviously feels it should be illegal. I merely pointed out that this is a restriction on free speech. You confirmed that without even realising it which is the funny bit.

              • blue leopard

                Gosman

                I’m sorry, I am having problems following your logic; I am sure it probably makes sense to you, but to anyone else its…well….not apparent…

                You questioned whether free speech should be illegal.
                I suggested your comment was irrelevant

                There is no valid link between views that oppress and disinform others and the merits of protecting free speech.

                • UpandComer

                  You are saying that speech that in your opinion is ‘oppressive moronic disinformation” should be illegal.

                  That is the opposite of free speech, and in branding speech ‘illegal’ you are anti-free speech.

                  And you are making Gosman’s point, over and over.

                  It’s funny.

                  • blue leopard

                    UpandComer

                    Cheers for the clarification

                    On your terms I maybe making Gosman’s point over and over. However I make no connection with the rantings of morons with free speech at all.

                    Cheers to both you, UpandComer and Gosman, for providing me with the opportunity to repeat my point of view-being one of seeing no merit in disinformation that provides non-thinking punters the opportunity to justify their negative attitudes; when given half a chance to consider their attitudes they would realize they are based on misapprehension and misinformation-so many times; knowing that the more people familiarize themselves with a notion the more amenable to it they are likely to become to it.

                    Someone would have to come up with a good argument as to why anyone should have the right to speak messages promoting oppression, based simply on disinformation and a dearth of intelligence, in order to convince me that such as any merit. Neither you nor Gosman have achieved that.

                    • Gosman

                      Serious couple of questions for you blue leopard.

                      First up – Do you wonder why noone has leaped to your defence on this subject?

                      It isn’t as if you wouldn’t have a lot of support for a view that might make me look like a dick. As you have probably noticed there are lots of people here who attempt to do that.

                      It is quite possible that people have decided that I am so ridiculous on this point that it isn’t even worth responding to. However usually when someone else hgas come in to make the same point as me then someone can’t resist commenting.

                      Secondly – Can you find someone, anyone here, who agrees with you that your idea isn’t a restriction on free speech? It shouldn’t be that difficult really.

                    • McFlock

                      Nah Gos.
                         
                      It’s just that the deft way you ignored polish’s mention of hate speech indicates you don’t give a shit about discussing the topic.

                    • Murray Olsen

                      I agree with you, Blue Leopard. What you may have missed is that what Gooseman actually has is a medical condition called Tourette’s, which is not illegal, but should be treated as soon as possible.
                      I have no problem with not allowing racist trolls to publish on a blog. Truth be told, they love it because they can go on the RWNJ sites and say what bullies we all are. It gives their sad lives meaning, at least in their eyes.

                    • Gosman

                      Just to clarify here McFlack.

                      Do you agree with blue leopard about making this sort of thing illegal?

                      Quite a simple and straight forward question.

                    • McFlock

                      Depends on whether “oppressive moronic disinformation” is roughly synonymous with “hate speech”.
                           
                      Hate speech is definitely moronic, is generally disinformation (where it isn’t an outright lie it’s usually using incorrect emphasis to mislead), and is definitely oppressive.
                           
                      Should hate speech be banned? Oh yeah. Same reason incitement to riot and (to use the US Supreme Court example) yelling “fire” to cause panic is banned.
                          
                      I joyfully await your spectacular failure to comprehend this comment. 

                    • Jackal

                      blue leopard makes a good point that doesn’t really need to be supported… Although it should be said that Gosman, your argument that people should be free to say whatever they want is entirely idiotic! Likewise UpandComer saying blue leopard’s view that some speech should be illegal makes him/her anti free speech is completely stupid! Grow some brain cells please.

                      Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you should know that there’s some speech that’s against the law. Common limitations to freedom of expression are libel, slander, obscenity and incitement to commit a crime.

                      The Human Rights Act also limits freedom of expression about race, however this law is hardly ever upheld. It’s currently against the law to publish, broadcast or make a public statements ‘likely to incite hostility or ill-will against, or bring into contempt or ridicule, any group of persons on the ground of their colour, race, or ethnic or national origins’.

                      The continued racist disinformation that pervades many rightwing blogs and some mainstream media causes ill-will against people who simply don’t deserve it. Racism is a sickness, and the promotion of that sickness is illegal. In my opinion there’s no justification for trying to incite hatred against other people based on the colour of their skin. You’re being ridiculous to argue that racism is somehow justified Gosman.

                    • Gosman

                      Excellent!

                      I find many of your comments “oppressive moronic disinformation”,(I believe that is the term being used here). I could even make a case for it in relation to you demonising an entire section of society based on your own political bias. I expect to see you supporting my attempts to ban your hate speech forthwith.

                    • McFlock

                      That’s the shizzle! 
                                  
                      You had a complete brain freeze so decided to go “ooo, ooo no YOU are!”, did you? 
                           
                       I grant that I am frequently abrasive to the point of “oppressive”, but I think you might be evaluating the “moronic” and the “disinformation” through your own ego-tinted spectacles. 

                    • blue leopard

                      …Well I missed all that…

                      Jolly good show Gosman old chap.

                      What was your point?

                      You can’t credibly assert the comments you got in response to your questions were moronic nor misinformed (let alone disinfomation).

                      Quite the opposite

                      Sorry you feel oppressed, poor dear, yet hey! wasn’t it you who were supportive of oppressive messages toward others?…

                      … and…
                      …well….

                      I guess its not entirely inappropriate to suggest
                      ….whats good for the GOOSE is good for the gander…

                    • blue leopard

                      p.s

                      Had these informed people not responded and informed me of otherwise
                      I would have said that if spreading disinformative moronic oppressive messages came under the category of speech, I would have to say that I think that is f*ked and wouldn’t consider that I was for “free” speech without conditions.

                      I personally consider such DOESN’T comply with speech; more like belching or grunting-something that doesn’t require any intelligence and not a loss to one’s intelligent full expression not to emit

                    • Gosman

                      I’m loving this. All the lefties here who have fallen in to the trap of coming out as being anti-free speech.

                      I especially rate this contribution from McCluck as the best in terms of spectactularly missing the point

                      “…but I think you might be evaluating the “moronic” and the “disinformation” through your own ego-tinted spectacles. ”

                      Ahhhhhhh…. yes, yes I am.

                      How would this be any different to any other system set up to determine which speech is allowed or not?

                    • Polish Pride

                      I’m loving the way that you don’t have the intellectual capacity to formulate a decent response to my posts whether it be that hate speech should be illegal or that Right wing policy (just like left) is all about redistribution of wealth.

                      Generally when I start posting on a blog I like to find someone like yourself who can’t formulate a proper response and is often a tool towards other posters and make them soley for the purpose of my own amusement, ‘my biatch’. I haven’t been here long enough to decide who that should be, but so far you’ve done a stellar job of vying for that position bubbleboy.

                    • Gosman

                      Ah Polish Pride. I’m still waiting for you to respond to my actual EVIDENCE, (you know that thing you seem to have trouble providing), about Microsoft profit margin actually falling over the past 6 to 8 years.

                      Care to actually deal with facts rather than spouting your biased ideologicial opinions and claiming it is factually based?

                    • Polish Pride

                      Bubble Boy – go and look at the response already provided or is your grasp of the english language the same as your experience in business – Nil.
                      again as I said many many many things affect profit and the amount of profit a business makes in a given year or decade does not change the fact that the practices are the wealth redistribution of the right!
                      How do I know – actual experience, thought about it, did it got the results.
                      Now go away in your little bubble and look at Microsoft and the practices they have employed since their start rather than selecting a few years to try and support your seriously flawed argument that you have how much experience to back up. Oh yeah thats right – None!
                      Then go and research the other companies I gave you.
                      Or would you just like me to post the increase in profit from those companies to blow your BS out of the water.
                      They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You are a living breathing example of that Bubble boy, well done!

                    • McFlock

                      lol.
                               
                      Gos, nobody here has expressed an opinion that is anti free speech any more than the US Supreme Court. 
                             
                      Or are you in favour of incitement to riot?  

                    • blue leopard

                      In summary:

                      “Someone would have to come up with a good argument as to why anyone should have the right to speak messages promoting oppression, based simply on disinformation and a dearth of intelligence, in order to convince me that such as any merit. ”

                      Gosman: fail

                  • Gosman

                    @ Polish Pride. The data I provided on Microsoft was from around 2002 till just recently. It therefore covered a period well before the GFC.

                    As for me going away to research the topic, I’m not the one making up stuff to support a flimsy theory. If you want to be taken seriously then back up your views with hard evidence.

                    • Polish Pride

                      Bubble boy the link I just provided you was from about three weeks ago. :)

                    • Polish Pride

                      Oh and bubble Real world experience and real world examples as already provided trump your theory, because as established you have no experience or examples to disprove what I have told you and no sorry bubble sadly for you Microsofts profit going down doesn’t disprove it either, but feel free to keep trying. See its not about the amount of profit its about the activities you undertook to maximise what you did get…..another thing I have ‘experience’ with.

                      So lets recap shall we.
                      I have put forward a fact backed up by real world experience and real world examples.
                      You bubble… well lets see, you have well a theory (disproved by my real world experience and real world examples). and an internet link that doesn’t disprove my fact of right wing wealth redistribution.

                      I know its a hard lesson but take it on the chin, learn from it. Learn that it is best to know what you are talking about and that there’s no substitute for real world experience.
                      Unless of course something is totally rooted (like your arguement or more accurately lack of one) and you need to try something else. (also a little like our current system really).
                      As much as I’d love to continue this battle of wits with you bubble, you appear to be somewhat unarmed and it just wouldn’t be fair on you for me to do so.

              • Bastables

                Free speech . . . I do not think that word means what you think it means.
                In a civil society our laws make it illegal to conduct “libel” and “defamation.”
                A civil society should never have to bear a lier.
                I and NZ Law piss on your conflations of USA style free speech.

                For instance:
                “The principle that “tale-bearers are as bad as talemakers” was established in 1926 by Mr Justice Herdman at Auckland when a Gallipoli veteran, one Fox, was awarded £1,000 damages against W. Goodfellow, chairman of the New Zealand Cooperative Dairy Co. Ltd. The two disputants fell foul of each other over Dairy Board and Dairy Co. policy, and Goodfellow was found to have circulated fictions about the plaintiff’s war record, even going to the length of saying that Fox had been “reported twice as a spy”. This was a case in which the jury was asked to decide upon the question of malice. It returned a verdict of defamation with malice and, although the plaintiff had made no definite claim for special damage, he was awarded sums totalling £1,000 on three counts of malicious slander.”

                • blue leopard

                  @Bastables

                  +1
                  of a similar tone to how I would have answered Gosman had others not responded before me.

    • Polish Pride 16.2

      Apologies for the long post but this is a letter I wrote to Pita Sharples and it seems to have some relevance to the topic if you look at the message within.

      Dear Pita

      When I was growing up as a pakeha kid in Levin I had a good amount of immersion in Maori culture. My mother worked with Mob members helping them get into work and away from the gang.
      I was given the Maori name Tahu after an older Maori lady my mother worked with went to the Maori elders to get permission to give me a Maori name. Growing up this was something I was immensely proud of.
      My Uncle was Maori and unfortunately I went to his tangi at the age of 4.
      My cousin (the uncle aboves son) was part Maori and was the closest thing I have had to an older brother.
      At Levin North Primary School we had to select a hobbie. Their were about 10 to choose from. I chose Maori studies.
      I grew up with Maori culture as a big part of my life. I grew up with the Maori myths and Legends, Maui, Rangi, Tane.

      We moved down south to Kurow in North Otago when I was 10 years old. There were a lot less Maori kids and families down there but I easily became friends with them.
      In form 2 the subject of the Treaty of Waitangi came up. Picture a scene with one Maori kid in the class and the rest rural pakeha kids arguing that the treaty of Waitangi was rubbish, that it was no longer relevant etc. etc. It was me that stood up and defended Maori and the Treaty of Waitangi. It was me that said to these kids, imagine if someone came along now and confiscated your family farm. Would you not tell your children and your childrens children what had happened and that the confiscated land was rightfully yours and should be returned!?! would it not still matter 200 years later if their had been no approptiate redress for what had happened!?!

      Growing up I have been on many Maraes, I have been to many Hangis.
      I was immensely proud of the Maori culture and my connection to it.
      One of the things I was most proud of about Maori was when I was taught that Maori were custodians of the Land, of the Lakes, of the rivers and of the sea. That it was they who belonged to the land and not the other way around. To me this was what made me most proud of my connection with Maori and the fact that the Maori culture shaped the man I am today.

      Over the years however things have changed. I am still pakeha, but what has changed is that time and time again the message is driven home to all in Aotearoa and abroad that Maori culture belongs to Maori and only Maori, that the Maori language belongs to Maori and only Maori, that the seabed, that the lakes, the mountains and the rivers belong to Maori and only Maori.
      Because of this, the strong beautiful connection that I have had with Maori the Maori culture has been destroyed, I have been made to feel not worthy. I have been made to feel like an imposter, a fake, a charlatan, like I have no business having such a connection. After all I am not Maori, I am Pakeha.

      My message to you Mr Sharples is this.

      If you want to save Te Reo give it to everyone. Make it something that belongs to all New Zealanders, not something that just belongs to Maori.

      If you want the Maori culture to be stronger than ever, give it to all New Zealanders. Make it something that all New Zealanders can feel part of and have become part of them just like I once did. Not something that just belongs to Maori

      As far as the Land and the rivers and the lakes and the seabed go. Do not just claim it for Maori, Instead claim it for all New Zealand to respect, care for and be a custodians of.

      Pakeha are wrong on so many things Mr Sharples. Do not make the same mistakes that Pakeha are making.
      I do not expect you to listen to me, after all I am only Pakeha. I only hope you will.

  17. Michael 17

    IMHO, Ansell’s just staying warmed up for NACT’s 2014 campaign by burning a shitload of Crimp’s money. Brash’s 2004 Orewa speech, and Ansell’s follow up work, turned the tide in NACT’s favour and spooked Aunty Helen’s lot into stopping all work on the social justice front, including Treaty matters. The right seems to have calculated that playing the race card keeps it in power. From what I can see, I think they’re right. If there was an opposition party worthy of the name, NACT might not have such a walkover victory. Does anyone know what became of the Labour Party? Did they just disband or something?

    • Pascal's bookie 17.1

      The well is dry Michael.

      They got the gang back together and gave it the old school push in the last election with ACT. Ansell crowing about 40% at KB, and BigBruv in comments here predicting at least 10%. Nothing happened. It sunk like a uranium turd, with everyone looking on from the shoreline saying peeuw between the lulz.

      Ansell is now ranting about cabals of elite politicians and academics who ought to go to jail for fraud. He’s talking about mainstream historians and people like Bolger there I assume, though he’s been a bit coy.

      this will go nowhere, and the National party will have nothing to do with it, and if ACT force their hand, ACT will get put in its fucking place. The dunces corner.

  18. mike e 18

    Goose tr oll of the day Cynicism + a smidgeon of racism what you have is an act party fundamentalist who has proved exactly what they are up to 1% Trying to over influence the other 99%.
    But as per usual its only galvanising opposition to their tactics.

  19. UpandComer 19

    Did the Greens think they were the only ones who could find a hot button issue?

    The Greens and implicity Labour can’t criticise this move. If it succeeds, all their blather about ‘mandates’ mean they will have to accept it.

    Seriously, it should be taxpayer funded too, just like the Green’s ‘referendum’.

    • Pascal's bookie 19.1

      Did the Greens think they were the only ones who could find a hot button issue?

      I doubt it. Haven’t seen anyone saying so. Ansell is entitled to try and get a petition on whatever dan fool thing he wants within the CIR rules. It’ll be interesting to see how his wording is recieved.

      The Greens and implicity Labour can’t criticise this move. If it succeeds, all their blather about ‘mandates’ mean they will have to accept it.

      Have they criticised ‘this move’? I’m sure they’ll criticise his position and his laughable arguments, but that’s not the same thing. Likewise, based on his laughable arguments it’s perfectly valid to criticise him as being an idiot. Also, wrong about pretty much everything, and racist to boot. According ot your logic, all those criticisms will pplay implicitly to national and ACT. I see Rodney Hyde had an interesting newspaper piece on the Treaty recently. Collusion? Certainly a striking coincidence.

      Seriously, it should be taxpayer funded too, just like the Green’s ‘referendum’.

      Seriously? If ACT wants to spend some of its leaders budget helping him out, go for it. Why not?

      • toad 19.1.1

        What’s the bet Ansell actually drafted Hide’s HoS op-ed? Hide may have toned it down a bit before submitting it, but it is still full of the racism for which Ansell is becoming renowned.

        • Pascal's bookie 19.1.1.1

          yeah nah.

          The style is pretty much Rodney through and through. And he’s not stupid enough to let someone as unstable and disloyal as Ansell have something like that over hm.

          Reckon it’s more likely that they’ve talked, and most likely that some of the people Ansell has been hitting up for cash money have had a word with Hide. It’s not that big a circle of people is it?

    • fatty 19.2

      “Did the Greens think they were the only ones who could find a hot button issue?”

      Good try…but the Green’s ‘hot button issue’ is not aimed at protecting cultural hegemony and racist ideals. Make the link if you want, but its a pretty ignorant attempt.

    • felix 19.3

      So weird! That’s just like what Farrar said, but a bit fewer eloquent.

  20. The nats may be playing kiwi’s off against one another,but here is the rub, the 3 news poll just
    out says the the nats are down to 44% labour up to 32%, there is a rise for the greens too,
    so while the nats play their kind of sport,many kiwi’s read between the lines and strip them
    of gold.

  21. Michael 21

    I think you’ll find this is why NACT is playing the race card now. Economic performance (aka “growth”) is down, unemployment and social tensions are up. NACT’s poll ratings are sliding and they haven’t got any fresh ideas (I don’t think they had any in the first place). What else is there to do but stir up race conflict, especially now that no one cares whether or not we play sport with South Africa?

  22. The poll above i posted was from roy morgan taken from july 23 to august 5th,so
    it discounts the other polls.

  23. Steve Wrathall 23

    I fully support the Treaty, the 1840 one, not the fake one that was invented in the 1980s that contains the word “partnership”.

    “The Chiefs of the Confederation of the United Tribes of New Zealand and the separate and independent Chiefs who have not become members of the Confederation cede to Her Majesty the Queen of England absolutely and without reservation all the rights and powers of Sovereignty”

    What do you not understand about that?

    • Pascal's bookie 23.1

      Here’s the other clause, in the language recognised as the authoritative version:

      Ko te Kuini o Ingarani ka wakarite ka wakaae ki nga Rangitira ki nga hapu – ki nga tangata katoa o Nu Tirani te tino rangatiratanga o o ratou wenua o ratou kainga me o ratou taonga katoa. Otiia ko nga Rangatira o te wakaminenga me nga Rangatira katoa atu ka tuku ki te Kuini te hokonga o era wahi wenua e pai ai te tangata nona te Wenua – ki te ritenga o te utu e wakaritea ai e ratou ko te kai hoko e meatia nei e te Kuini hei kai hoko mona.

      Read up on what it meant. There are lots of sources.

      • Steve Wrathall 23.1.1

        Yes-their property rights.

        Third article
        In the Māori text, the Crown gave an assurance that Māori would have the Queen’s protection and all rights (tikanga) accorded to British subjects.

        That is equal rights.

        Read in its totality the Treaty clearly sets up one sovereignty with all citizens having equal rights. Modern revisionism and selective cherry picking of 3 ambiguous words in the Maori version do not alter this totality. Many of the signatories spoke good English anyway, and would have understood the English version, or did not sign immediately and had plenty of time to enquire as to the overall intent.

        In business terminology, it was a merger, not a partnership.

        • Pascal's bookie 23.1.1.1

          What’s ambiguous about ‘chieftainship’?

          And if you’re gong to talk about cherry picking, you can’t really just gloss over the second article and pretend tino rangatiratanga just means what you conveniently think it means.

          I mean, if it’s fair for you to do that, then it’s equally fair for iwi to gloss over the first article and say that ‘Sovereignty’ is ambiguous and so therefore we are are all one people under tino rangatiratanga.

          • North 23.1.1.1.1

            What’s all this “look and listen to the oracle” mock academic crap from Wrathall ?

            Did Maori sign for “merger” which raped and plundered in short order of the ink drying ?

            Did Maori sign for “merger” with European disease which nearly wiped them out as a race ?

            Did Maori sign for “merger” with the bottom of the heap in just about every measure 170 years on ?

            Hey, Wracist Wrubbish Wrathall, Tame’s great x 8 grandfather didn’t sign at all.

            Bloody laughable is this from WWW: “Many of the signatories spoke good English anyway, and ‘would have’ (???) understood the English version, or did not sign immediately and had plenty of time to enquire as to the overall intent.”

            Where, idiot ? Paihia CAB ? Or Russell McVeagh downtown Waitangi ? Free waka parking for new clients ?

            My God, Wright Wring Wracist Wrubbish sure talks some steaming kaka !

  24. RedBaron 24

    Maybe we need a “be nice to Gos night” . He and other right wingers must be feeling very fragile having watched Christchurch central city property owners being stripped of their land like it or not.

    They must be very afraid of ending up in the same waka.

  25. AmaKiwi 25

    The Treaty is only an issue because the statistics for Maori are so appalling.

    Whatever one may think about a document signed 172 years ago the facts are clear: a group of NZ citizens are worse off than the average by every measure of wealth and well-being: income, unemployment, health, imprisonment, etc., etc.

    I resist the liberal temptation to say, “I know how to fix it.” From my life experience I think the answers have to come from the people who are the Maori underclass. What the better off can do is help them implement their own solutions. Transfers of land and money are not solutions to social problems, no matter how valid or invalid the historic claims might be. But the right to equal opportunities and well-being is an infinitely valid grievance.

  26. blue leopard 26

    Eddie

    “… Although I doubt that the mainstream media will run the level of overtly racist material that Ansell is hinting at when he refers to when he says that he wants to “enrage the public”. That’s not just because media bosses have some standards or because of the BSA and press council consequences – it’s because New Zealanders aren’t as racist as Ansell would like us to believe, or as racist as we once were, and media that run racist ads risk losing customers.”

    I don’t agree with this. I find it overly idealistic, wishful thinking (at best) and not grounded in what continues to occur in NZ. There is a lot of racism here, people will be quick to agree with any moronic messages this team convey and NZ TV will do whatever its bosses, (which appears to be the National Government), tell them to do. If any complaints are laid, I’m sure they will “find a way around” them.

  27. Polish Pride 27

    Oh and Bubble boy

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-19/microsoft-profit-tops-estimates-as-companies-upgrade-computers.html

    Also in case you don’t microsoft has bought a lot of companies in recent years. Companies like Skype and Adquantive among others. This costs money, it increases overall revenue but decreases profit. So that will be one of the reasons for the decrease in profit. Understand? or do I need to type slower for you?
    Either way
    Lesson for the day for you
    Amount of profit going up or down has no bearing on the fact that companies employ right wing wealth redistribution tactics to funnel money upwards. If anything, a company who finds itself in a position where its profits are going down is sooner or later probably going to look to redistribute wealth, probably through a restructure.

    pwned again bubble, pwned again….

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  • September ’14 – NZ blogs sitemeter ranking
    PLEASE NOTE: Sitemeter is playing up again making it impossible to automatically get the stats for some blogs – those I list below. Maybe more bloggers will shift to StatCounter or other counter. No stats could be found for these blogs: Works...
    Open Parachute | 01-10
  • Auckland: the world’s friendliest city
    UK travel magazine Conde Nast Traveler has just named Auckland the world’s friendliest city in its 2014 rankings. It introduces Auckland with a great photo that highlights the city’s growing urbanity: FRIENDLIEST: 1. Auckland, New Zealand Score: 86.0 (tie) We...
    Transport Blog | 01-10
  • Waterview Breakthrough
    On Monday Alice the Tunnel Boring Machine broke through at Waterview after tunnelling for the last 10 months. And here’s a video of it happening. One of the things that is really impressive is just how accurate the machine is...
    Transport Blog | 30-09
  • Fundamental incomprehension II
    Another day, and another journalist who just doesn't get it about the Greens. This time its Duncan Garner:The Green Party needs a serious rethink. For as long as they have been in Parliament, they have been a left wing party...
    No Right Turn | 30-09
  • An Open Letter to Green Party Supporters: Why I slagged off your Party
    Last week I called for a Bluegreen Party – an environmental party that I could in all conscience, vote for. It prompted a huge response, which confirmed to me there is a clear constituency that is not being serviced. I...
    Gareth’s World | 30-09
  • Parliament should decide
    Yesterday John Key began laying the groundwork to deploy kiwi troops to Iraq to fight in another pointless American war. And with the Labour Party distracted by its autocannibalism, its left to Winston Peters to stand up for democratic values...
    No Right Turn | 30-09
  • The problem with warmongers
    The problem with warmongers is they appear to have no empathy for their fellow human beings. That's because war, and the industrial complex behind it, is invariably built upon people's prejudices.History is littered with examples of prejudice being used as...
    The Jackal | 30-09
  • Australia to criminalise journalism
    Imagine this scenario: Australian spies seeking to fight domestic terrorism borrow the tactics of their American counterparts and start running agent provocateurs to "flush out" those with terrorist leanings. But an operation goes horribly wrong, and actually results in a...
    No Right Turn | 30-09
  • School funding failing vulnerable students – time for a better way?
    1 October 2014 Schools with the greatest needs get too little to meet those needs, says PPTA president Angela Roberts. The current school funding system is failing to support our most vulnerable students and this morning delegates at PPTA’s annual...
    PPTA | 30-09
  • Waiho Papa Moana Hikoi
    More than 1,000 people marched up Queen Streen in Auckland yesterday, as part of the Waiho Papa Moana Hikoi, to protest outside Sky City at the New Zealand Petroleum Summit against plans to begin deep sea oil drilling in the...
    Greenpeace NZ blog | 30-09
  • Why the Prime Minister and RB Governor are whistling in the wind
    Let there be no mistake, New Zealanders want the NZ dollar to be as high as possible. A 65 US cent dollar makes us a hell of a lot poorer than an 88 cent one. So why does the Reserve...
    Gareth’s World | 30-09
  • Hold fast to your Mana – Harawira
    Hone Harawira today called on the voters of Tai Tokerau to hold fast to their mana, and not be dictated to by those party leaders who have ganged together to tell them how to vote. “I call on our people...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Media Advisory – Interview availability
    This is to advise all media that Hone Harawira will be available in Auckland tomorrow, Friday the 19th of September from 7am to 4pm for interviews relating to his recent press releases. If you are interested in interviewing Mr Harawira on...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Labour stands on proud record on Suffrage Day
    Women have come a long way in the 121 years since New Zealand became the first country to give them the vote on September 19 1893, but there is still more to do, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Carol Beaumont says....
    Labour | 18-09
  • Polling Booths asked to treat Maori voters with respect
    “Polling booths without Maori roll voting papers, Maori people not being offered assistance to vote, people getting sent from Whangarei to Wellsford to vote, Maori people getting turned away from voting because they didn’t have their ‘easy vote’ card, Maori...
    Mana | 17-09
  • Aussie Liberals embroiled in Key campaign
    John Key needs to explain why Australia’s Liberal Party is interfering in New Zealand domestic politics and is encouraging Kiwi voters across the ditch to vote for National just days out from the election, Labour’s campaign spokesperson Annette King says....
    Labour | 17-09
  • The MANA Plan for Beneficiaries and Income in Waiariki
    Median Personal Income for Waiariki is $21,700. Over 13,000 Maori who live in Waiariki rely upon a form of government benefit including the Unemployment Benefit, Sickness Benefit, Domestic Purpose Benefit and the Invalids Benefit. “If you’re lucky enough to have...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Māori development crucial to New Zealand’s future
    Labour recognises the concern of Māori about child poverty and the rising costs of living, and in Government will make a real difference to the wellbeing of whānau and iwi, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “As our Māori...
    Labour | 16-09
  • MAORI PARTY – DON’T COMPLAIN … WALK
    “If the Maori Party are serious about stopping government spying on NZ citizens then they should tell the Prime Minister to either stop doing it or they will walk away” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira, on...
    Mana | 16-09
  • JOHN KEY SUPPORTING LABOUR
    “There is something really sick about a National Party Prime Minister coming out in support of a Labour candidate” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira, after hearing that John Key is urging voters to back Labour in...
    Mana | 16-09
  • SHUT DOWN THIS GOVT NOT KAITI WINZ – Nikora
    “I’m going to make it as hard for you to get help as I can” is Paula Bennett’s message to the people of Kaiti  said MANA candidate Te Hāmua Nikora today in response to the news that National will close...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Winegums make for better polling – Harawira
    I wanted to laugh when I saw the Native Affairs poll the other night (Hone Harawira 38%, Kelvin Davis 37%) because it was almost the same as the one they did back in 2011”, said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau...
    Mana | 16-09
  • The Leadership of MTS Lied – Harawira
    “Normally I’m happy to tell people that I was right but when I received the news about the staff cuts at Maori Television, I had nothing but sympathy for the three Maori media leaders who are going to be made...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Privileges Complaint Laid against Prime Minister – Harawira
    MANA Movement Leader and Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira has today lodged a Privileges Complaint with the Speaker regarding the Prime Ministers denials in parliament that he knew anything about Kim Dotcom before 2012. “Information made public today appears...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Sharples’ new appointments are out of order
    The new appointments to the Waitangi Tribunal announced by Dr Pita Sharples this morning are completely out of order given the election is just five days away, says Labour's State Services spokesperson, Maryan Street. “This Government continues to show disdain...
    Labour | 15-09
  • MANA Movement Housing Policy
    “When families are living in cars, garages, cockroach-infested caravans and three families to a house then we have a housing crisis”, said MANA leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira. “When you have a housing crisis for low-income...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Bigger than the Foreshore and Seabed – Sykes
    “Over the past week I have received some disturbing information that has led myself and a number of Maori lawyers to conclude that this National - Maori Party - ACT and United Future Government are going to put an end to both...
    Mana | 14-09
  • MANA wants Te Reo Māori petition fulfilled
    Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Annette Sykes, MANA candidate for Waiariki Te Hāmua Nikora, MANA candidate for Ikaroa Rāwhiti  “More than four decades have passed and the petition calling for Te Reo Māori in schools...
    Mana | 14-09
  • Primary focus on the critical issues
    A Labour Government will prioritise New Zealand’s agricultural sectors by recreating a Rural Affairs Minister and appointing a Primary Industry Council and a Chief Agricultural Adviser. Releasing Labour’s Primary Sector and Rural Affairs policies today, spokesperson Damien O’Connor says the...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Maori Television fears confirmed – Harawira
    ...
    Mana | 12-09
  • More ghost houses from National
    The Government’s desperate pre-election announcement of more ghost houses won’t fool Aucklanders wanting action on the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “These are ghost houses, to go with National’s ghost tax cut. Families cannot live in ghost...
    Labour | 12-09
  • National bows to union pressure over travel time
    National has reluctantly bowed to pressure from unions and adopted Labour’s fair and sensible policy to pay home support workers for the time they spend traveling between clients, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “This decision is long overdue...
    Labour | 12-09
  • I feel sorry for Labour Party members and supporters
    I feel really sorry for the members and supporters of the Labour Party as they watch their caucus tear itself to shreds. And no matter what the outcome of the coming leadership race Labour members and supporters will be the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • Ummmm, why is Auckland Transport spying on Aucklanders?
    Ummm. What? Sophisticated surveillance coming to Auckland Surveillance technology that uses high definition cameras and software that can put names to faces and owners to cars is coming to Auckland. The surveillance has the capability to also scan social media...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • It. Is. About. The. Economy. Stupid.
    Liam Dann does a good job of explaining the positive and negative issues looming for the NZ economy and as dairy prices plunge again overnight alongside a large Wall st sell off  and China Bank rumours begin, his case for the negative...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • Don’t think of it as reinvading Iraq, think of it as redecorating Iraq
    I think some NZers view Iraq like an episode of The Block. Yes Iraq is the worst country on the street, but with a bit of elbow grease by our SAS and some great deals down at Bunnings, hey presto we...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Joe Trinder – Mana Maori alliance
    Most Maori you speak to on the street can’t understand why Mana movement and  Maori Party don’t combine it confuses them why Maori are divided cross benches in Parliament instead of a unified political power that represents 15% of the...
    The Daily Blog | 01-10
  • Party members and affiliates – the real losers in Labour’s leadership f...
    Hey, wanna do a back room deal that cuts the members and affiliates out? Cunliffe must be reeling. He has lost failed Ilam candidate James Dann. It must cut as deep as the loss of Steve Gibson. Apart from providing Claire...
    The Daily Blog | 30-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, the election res...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, the election result...
    The Daily Blog | 30-09
  • The rich get richer
    Nobel prize winner Paul Krugman highlights the growing inequality in this article in the New York Times. The left wing slogan that the “the rich get richer” is a fact of almost perverse power. The most recent period of expansion in the...
    The Daily Blog | 30-09
  • A brief word on reinvading Iraq
    So after telling the country before the election that NZ would not send forces to Iraq, lo and behold now he’s won the election with a full spectrum dominance political majority, Key is suddenly now looking to join the re-invasion of...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • A brief word on the importance of ACT, Maori Party and United Future to Nat...
    I’m a far right wing clown who attacks tax money going on anything collective, gimmie some cash and privilege.  One of the great successes of National has been to implement hard right policy but have it sold as moderate. For some NZers,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • Labour’s Angst
    Was Labour’s predictably low vote David Cunliffe’s fault? Was it policy? Was it something else that has aroused perceptions of electoral carnage? My analysis of the numbers suggests that, as uncertain voters made up their minds, there was a late...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • Information wars: Gaza as “the last taboo”, the threat of mass surveill...
    “When the truth is replaced with silence” wrote the soviet dissident Yevgeni Yevtushenko, “the silence is a lie.” There has been a silence these past months full of noise, static and sound bites of those in power justifying their violence,...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • When the media say they covered Dirty Politics – did they?
    I was watching The Nation in the weekend, and watched the defenders of NZ media up against Minto telling him he was wrong in his claims of media bias and that the media covered Dirty Politics. I laughed. When the...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG – P Campbell – To the Left with love
    A week after the general election results I feel wrung out emotionally, having been through the disappointment, depression and anger of seeing  another right wing government elected overwhelmingly by winning support from the parts of NZ that will never benefit...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – I will be the new Labour Leader!
    One week after the election, while I was still waiting to be consulted about contributing to the review on what went wrong, what do you know? There is a leadership challenge. So instead of opting for a united, thoughtful and...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – A Prescient Post
    A very prescient pre-election post by Martyn Bradbury tells us why the Labour Party are at war now. “The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work” Despite Martyn Bradbury warning them this Right Wing strategy “Better Work”...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – W(h)ither Labour (!/?)
    There’s an old saying that success has many fathers, but failure is an orphan. Not so in the Labour Party, wherein soul-crushing defeat on a scale unseen since 1925 definitely has many fathers (and more than a few mothers and...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • At the end of the day…
    At the end of the day…...
    The Daily Blog | 29-09
  • Cynicism towards Key’s sudden desire to help children in poverty
    Cynicism towards Key’s sudden desire to help children in poverty...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Internet MANA the election and the media
    I’ve been very critical of media reporting of Internet MANA during the election campaign and not surprised at the predictable response from representatives of the corporate media establishment. I wasn’t going to carry this further but was asked at the...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Rachel Jones – A superficial discourse analysis of a superfic...
    On Sunday there was a story about Paddy Gower and his detached retina in the Herald on Sunday. Really? I hear you ask. Really? Yes, really. Pam Corkery will have sprayed toast crumbs over her dressing gown. The reporter has become...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Terrorising Australia’s Muslim population
    We should be suspicious when 800 police conduct “terror” raids across Australia, but only one person is charged with a relevant terrorism offence (of which we know few details). We should be suspicious of the lurid tales of terrorists planning...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • Another Labour leader has resigned and as per usual, the media lost its min...
    Another Labour leader has resigned and as per usual, the media lost its mind. I know the Labour party has its problems and I’m not even going to try to prescribe what should be done about it. But what I...
    The Daily Blog | 28-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – Loyalty, Leadership and the Labour Party
    My first after the election and I can only say I’m feeling pretty sad.  It was a terrible result, and feels even more so knowing the number of volunteers hours, hard work & sacrifice made by so many people who...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • A Study in Party Stability
    . In terms of long-term stability, one party above stands above all others, with the exception of personality-driven groups such as NZ First and United Future. That party is the Greens. If the Labour Party wants to look elsewhere for...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • Cunliffe vs Robertson – Round 2
    Much to the disappointment of the NZ Herald and other right wing pundits who have decided they would like to appoint the next Labour leader, Cunliffe has surprised by deciding to damn the Caucus and appeal directly to the members...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • The tasks before the left and labour movement
    Anyone on the left would have been disappointed at the result of the election. There was an opportunity to win, but that got lost through a combination of factors. There were tactical decisions made by Labour, the Greens and Internet-Mana...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • From Fiji’s dictatorship to ‘democracy’ – the AUT student team on t...
    Mads Anneberg’s profile on Ricardo Morris and Repúblika. David Robie also blogs at Café Pacific. THREE STUDENTS from AUT University covered Fiji’s historic “from dictatorship to democracy” general election this month. While the election arguably legitimised Voreqe Bainimarama’s so-called 2006...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • David Cunliffe Resigns As Labour Leader – Forces Robertson Out of the Bel...
    David Cunliffe has made a smart move, resigning as the leader of the Labour Party so as to force a leadership primary campaign. The move draws rival Grant Robertson out of the beltway to parts of the country where he...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • Deep thought vs Deep prejudice
    . . This letter to the editor appeared in The Listener, on 27 September, and caught my attention; . . Mr Dawson wrote in response to one of those typically unthinking comments which  condemned the poor for their “unbridled, reckless...
    The Daily Blog | 27-09
  • The NZ National voters elected
    The NZ National voters elected...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The post election postmortem is giving me post p...
    I feel the need to contribute to the discourse. This is a new experience for me. Not having an opinion, but expressing it on a popular forum in a public sphere. That’s why I have waited till now and put...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • A dictionary of education terms and definitions, brought to you by the let...
    Free to all TDB readers, please enjoy your very own cut-out-and-keep handy primer of terms that I predict you will need to know over the next three years… Achievement Gap (noun) Synonym for wealth gap. ACT (abstract noun) Intangible. Reported to exist in...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • A Mines Rescue brigadesman’s perspective on the Pike River Mine
    My husband and I lived in Greymouth in 2010, we were a coal mining family.  The day Pike River Mine blew up and the days following changed us profoundly, as it did for so many.  This is a Mines Rescue...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • The Left Triumphant! A Counterfactual History of the Last Twelve Months.
    DID IT REALLY HAVE TO END LIKE THIS? Reading through the commentary threads of the left-wing blogs it is impossible to not feel the anger; the sense of betrayal; the impression of having had something vital ripped from their grasp;...
    The Daily Blog | 26-09
  • GUEST BLOG – Myles Thomas: The media won it!
    Make no mistake, John Key is a clever communicator – reasonable, authoritative and relaxed – but without the media he wouldn’t be PM. Depending on your viewpoint, New Zealand’s news media are either a bunch of Grey Lynn lefties or...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • Not Learning Lessons Past: the West’s Response to IS
    In an earlier posting Ukraine, United Kingdom, Ireland, Scotland, I noted that the first lesson of conflict learned by Robert McNamara was “understand your adversary”. If we have honourable objectives, our first and most important weapon is empathy. In the Vietnam War,...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Dr Jarrod Gilbert – Proof of David Farrar’s deception: my ...
    In the lead up to the election the Minister of Corrections Anne Tolley launched a gang policy. In order to justify the government’s approach she used gang figures that overstated the gang problem. Not by a little bit, but a...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • SPECIAL FEATURE: Stuart Nash – Red To The Rescue?
    SPECIAL FEATURE by Selwyn Manning. IF THE ELECTION RESULT which was dished out to Labour was not enough to incite an immediate leadership primary, then the caucus’ refusal to recognise David Cunliffe as the leader should cement it. Now is...
    The Daily Blog | 25-09
  • Has the one party state crackdown begun already? Left wing NZ activist grou...
    Well known left wing activist social media group, ‘John Key Has Left Down NZ’ has been shut down on Facebook. At 11.40pm last night, Facebook, without any warning shut the group down siting a breach of terms of service as...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • Why Cunliffe should probably just let Nash & Robertson win
    We have to face some very unpalatable home truths. If you are a left wing political person, best you put your vote now to the Green Party, although you’ll have to do that all the while the Greens frantically tell you...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • The graceless win of Kelvin Davis
    The graceless win of Cameron Slater’s mate in the North, Kelvin Davis is difficult to swallow. Here Cameron Slater’s mate in the North is shitting on Hone Harawira by calling Hone all steam, no hangi as Kelvin rubs his ganged up win into...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • So Labour shifted too far to the left?
    So Labour shifted too far to the left?   Here’s the ill-judged view of Josie Pagani in the Pundit “Labour must change”: “At the last election I made myself a heretic when I wrote a column mentioning how unpopular the...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • Uncomplicated Loyalties: Why Cunliffe and the Labour Left Cannot Win
    THE STORY of David Cunliffe’s leadership of the Labour Party has been one of missed opportunities and unforced errors. That he was the only choice available to those who wanted to rid the Labour Party of its neoliberal cuckoos is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-09
  • So we can expect this now?
    So we can expect this now?...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Can Labour be saved? Why Whaleoil & National won and why we need a new ...
    As the shock of my optimism that NZers would recoil from the real John Key as exposed by Dirty Politics and mass surveillance duplicities wears off, I am surprised to find that the right in NZ are not content with...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Three more years (up shit creek and paddling hard)
    “If the future is not green, there is no future. If the future is not you, there is no future”. Emma Thompson’s stirring words to the climate marchers in London last Sunday are worth considering in the aftermath of the...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • One Party State
    In years to come this election will be seen as a historic turning point towards one party rule. I don`t mean this literally, absolute single party dictatorship is not in prospect. In the New Zealand context though, one party has...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • No More. The Left Falls.
    . We cannot be beaten down Because we are down already. We can only rise up and if you should beat us down, We will rise again. And again. And again… And when you tire of beating us down, We...
    The Daily Blog | 23-09
  • Hang tight everyone – Marama Davidson campaign reflection
    To the many people who had expressed their overwhelming support for me to enter Parliament this election – thank you. That the Greens held steady in a big loss for progressive politics is an achievement. We are hopeful that after...
    The Daily Blog | 22-09
  • How You Can Help the Homeless
    At any one time, there are an estimated 357 homeless people in Central Auckland alone, many enduring hardships beyond the rain, wind and cold of sleeping rough. October 10 is World Homeless Day when the public are invited to learn...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Over 20% of Gold Production Now Pledged to Kiwifruit Claim
    Kiwifruit growers representing over 20% of New Zealand gold kiwifruit production have already pledged to join The Kiwifruit Claim, the chairman of the claim’s grower committee, John Cameron, said today....
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • ‘Creepy’ Decision on Up-Skirt Filming Slammed
    Family First NZ says that a discharge without conviction given to a man who filmed up a woman's dress in a Wellington department store is a ‘creepy’ decision that should concern all people who value their privacy. “This decision by...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Speaker leads delegation to CPA Conference
    Strengthening New Zealand’s ties with parliaments from across the world will be the focus of the upcoming delegation to the 60th Commonwealth Parliamentary Association (CPA) Conference in Yaoundé, Cameroon from 4-10 October and the 131st Inter-Parliamentary...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Response to Russell Brown and Tertiary Education Union
    The allegation that I have worked with others to discredit public health efforts is wrong. My public comments in relation to public health researchers have been where academics have mislead the public about official support or endorsement, and where...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • 17 jobs lost as Bridon/Cookes reaches the end of its rope
    Seventeen workers at the iconic Bridon/Cookes wire rope company in Auckland are to be made redundant as the company ceases production in New Zealand. The company has blamed the high New Zealand dollar for making it uncompetitive to keep the...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Slip in University Rankings – Funding Not the Problem
    Responding to the slippage of New Zealand universities' rankings , Jordan Williams, Executive Director of the Taxpayers’ Union says:...
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Time to rethink police chases, says safety campaigner
    Police chases are dangerous and generally unnecessary, says the American Federal Bureau of Investigation....
    Scoop politics | 02-10
  • Robertson now expected to be Labour leader by Xmas
    Grant Robertson is now overwhelmingly picked to become the next leader of the Labour Party by the end of the year, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Another potential Labour...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Documenting historic Māori land law cases for the first time
    A new book from Victoria University of Wellington’s Faculty of Law will continue to put the spotlight on Māori Land Law judgments which have never before been published....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • ‘Oily’ people greet Petroleum Summit diners
    Greenpeace activists smeared in fake oil have greeted guests arriving at the part-Statoil sponsored Petroleum Summit dinner this evening....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Key Decisions Made About Labour’s Leadership Election
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has made the key decisions about the timetable and process around the election of Labour’s Party Leader. The result will be announced on Tuesday 18th November, following a comprehensive and extensive process unique...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Suspected $6 Million Dollar Wananga Fraud Alarming
    The Taxpayers’ Union is calling on on the Te Whare Wananga o Awanuiarangi to front up over claims the Wananga has pocketed government overpayments amounting to $6 million of taxpayers' money. Jordan Williams, Executive Director of the Taxpayers’ Union...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Submissions sought on herbicide for weed control in maize
    The Environmental Protection Authority is calling for submissions on a herbicide to improve broadleaf weed control in maize. The substance CADET contains 100g fluthiacet-methyl in the form of an emulsifiable concentrate and would contain a new active ingredient...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Jesse Mulligan Lives Below Poverty Line
    Jesse Mulligan Lives Below Poverty Line TV personality Jesse Mulligan will live on the equivalent of the extreme poverty line this October in order to raise awareness of sex trafficking. Mulligan will survive on $2.25 for his food from October...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Narratives from the 2014 Election: What do we learn?
    Narratives from the 2014 Election: What do we learn? - Sue Bradford, Russell Brown & Kirk Serpes discuss....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Voices from Oceania to speak out on climate change
    Voices from Oceania to speak out on climate change at launch of Pacific environment report...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Changes to Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre messages
    The Ministry of Civil Defence & Emergency Management advises that while changes to Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre messages come into effect from today (Wednesday 1 October), the Ministry has been, and remains, the authoritative voice for tsunami...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Police remove banner at Statoil Offices in Wellington
    Oil Free Wellington hung a banner at 9:30 this morning at the Statoil office headquarters in Wellington as the Petroleum Summit opened in Auckland. The banner, which read 'Statoil out of Northland: Stop Deep Sea Oil', has now been removed...
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Mixed massages raise concerns
    Mixed massages raise concerns for Te Taumata Kaumatua Ngapuhi nui tonu, and Te Wakaminenga O nga Hapu Ngapuhi....
    Scoop politics | 01-10
  • Union Slams Port Boss’s Pay Rise
    The Rail and Maritime Transport Union (RMTU) says Lyttelton Port CEO Peter Davie’s 18% wage rise, taking his pay packet to $1.24m, is unjustified and inflammatory. ‘Lyttelton port has an appalling health and safety record, with three deaths on...
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Prisons expert Ron Nikkel to speak in Auckland October 15
    Prison Fellowship NZ and JustSpeak have the privilege of hosting the former president of Prison Fellowship International, Ron Nikkel....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Hundreds of educators protest IES in Rotorua
    Four hundred educators from around the country took their opposition to the Government's controversial Investing in Educational Success policy to the public today....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Crime drops by 3.2 % in the 2013 / 2014 financial year
    Criminal offences dropped by 3.2 % in the last financial year according to figures released today through Statistics New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Narratives from the 2014 Election: what do we learn?
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    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Oil Free Wellington drops banner from Statoil headquarters
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    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Media Statement from Karen Price
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    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Greenpeace disrupts Simon Bridges’ speech to oil industry
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    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • New Zealand Red Cross Responds to Drought in Tonga
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    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Can you ever tell if an email is real or forged?
    Computer industry veteran Brian Eardley-Wilmot warns that we should never take claims about stolen emails at face value....
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  • NZ MPs to attend the ASPG Annual Conference in Sydney
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    Scoop politics | 30-09
  • Independent Maori seats still needed in Parliament
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  • Support for Democratic Rights in Hong Kong
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Trout Mass-Poisoned in New Zealand
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  • New Zealand’s 2014 Hottest Vegetarians Crowned
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • A day to remember our duty to look after our senior citizens
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Clear data needed on impact of benefit sanctions on children
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • The socialist alternative to austerity and war
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • New recruits to boost border protection
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Dwindling Mallard population shows up ‘pest’ myth
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Support for Democratic Rights in Hong Kong
    New Zealanders in Auckland will gather on Wednesday to support the rights for universal suffrage in Hong Kong....
    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Campbell Live Exclusive Interview with David Cunliffe
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Action needed on cycling safety
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • World Rivers Day Passes Without A Whimper
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • The Kiwifruit Claim: Q&A
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Fed Farmers Need to Be Weaned
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Children paying the price for charter school stitch up
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Hikoi From North Reaches Oil Conference Tomorrow
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Communities Still Count
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    Scoop politics | 29-09
  • Eleven social enterprises get ready to take off
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