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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Punch in the face&#8217; dad guilty</title>
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		<title>By: Basher bill puts pressure on Key at The Standard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-155981</link>
		<dc:creator>Basher bill puts pressure on Key at The Standard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] it potentially allow a defence for people like Jimmy &#8216;punch in the face dad&#8217; Mason (who punched his five year old son in the face but didn&#8217;t do last [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] it potentially allow a defence for people like Jimmy &#8216;punch in the face dad&#8217; Mason (who punched his five year old son in the face but didn&#8217;t do last [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Baldock gets a smacking at The Standard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-141444</link>
		<dc:creator>Baldock gets a smacking at The Standard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 06:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] got so bad in the end that Baldock was forced to dredge up old &#8220;punch in the face dad&#8221; Jimmy Mason as an example. That only made things worse. Honestly, to think this farce is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] got so bad in the end that Baldock was forced to dredge up old &#8220;punch in the face dad&#8221; Jimmy Mason as an example. That only made things worse. Honestly, to think this farce is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lex</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-135637</link>
		<dc:creator>Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 09:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smacking/spanking/bashing/hitting/lashing out/beating (same thing, different names) is simply the quickest, easiest, laziest, most mindless and cowardly way to assert power and control over someone (usually physically weaker than the beater), when not given your own way. The small, dishonourable, churlish, self-centred, weak and thoughtless bully&#039;s answer to everything.

Violence studies 101.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smacking/spanking/bashing/hitting/lashing out/beating (same thing, different names) is simply the quickest, easiest, laziest, most mindless and cowardly way to assert power and control over someone (usually physically weaker than the beater), when not given your own way. The small, dishonourable, churlish, self-centred, weak and thoughtless bully&#8217;s answer to everything.</p>
<p>Violence studies 101.</p>
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		<title>By: Lew</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-135154</link>
		<dc:creator>Lew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 08:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like it&#039;ll be anger management counselling, perhaps community work, and the judge is leaving the possibility open for a discharge without conviction. I think everyone agrees that Mason should be given a chance to shape up before being required to ship out.

L</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like it&#8217;ll be anger management counselling, perhaps community work, and the judge is leaving the possibility open for a discharge without conviction. I think everyone agrees that Mason should be given a chance to shape up before being required to ship out.</p>
<p>L</p>
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		<title>By: jcuknz</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-135147</link>
		<dc:creator>jcuknz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 08:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I do not question the courst I do wonder how any penalty will affect the wife and kids, perhaps by taking money out of the family budget or causing thre father to loose his job with similar financial results.
I hope there will be a &#039;good&#039; sentance which doesn;t punish the family along with the father..  I&#039;d guess that they are already suffering and have suffered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I do not question the courst I do wonder how any penalty will affect the wife and kids, perhaps by taking money out of the family budget or causing thre father to loose his job with similar financial results.<br />
I hope there will be a &#8216;good&#8217; sentance which doesn;t punish the family along with the father..  I&#8217;d guess that they are already suffering and have suffered.</p>
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		<title>By: Spectator</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-135117</link>
		<dc:creator>Spectator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 05:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not much a law (or a jury) can do if the Police send the wrong person to court.

I&#039;d be all in favour of the Police and CYFS being given more teeth and being more pro-active in protecting vulnerable children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much a law (or a jury) can do if the Police send the wrong person to court.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be all in favour of the Police and CYFS being given more teeth and being more pro-active in protecting vulnerable children.</p>
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		<title>By: bilbo</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-134970</link>
		<dc:creator>bilbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 20:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m trying to determine if you rate this case as sickening child abuse&quot;

No - having seen the kids, mother and father on the box it doesn&#039;t appear to be &#039;sickening child abuse&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m trying to determine if you rate this case as sickening child abuse&#8221;</p>
<p>No &#8211; having seen the kids, mother and father on the box it doesn&#8217;t appear to be &#8216;sickening child abuse&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Kiwipolitico &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I don&#8217;t see a test case</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-134955</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiwipolitico &#187; Blog Archive &#187; I don&#8217;t see a test case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 11:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I haven&#8217;t read widely today, but the only other person I&#8217;ve seen make this argument is RedLogix at The Standard. Are we missing something here? Aside from which, let me repeat the sentiment that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I haven&#8217;t read widely today, but the only other person I&#8217;ve seen make this argument is RedLogix at The Standard. Are we missing something here? Aside from which, let me repeat the sentiment that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: aj</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-134933</link>
		<dc:creator>aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 09:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to determine if you rate this case as sickening child abuse, and if not, where do you set your standard.

and......

1 minute to decide &#039;guilty on the punching charge&#039;
8hr 59min deciding on the others.

Equally as valid as your proposition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to determine if you rate this case as sickening child abuse, and if not, where do you set your standard.</p>
<p>and&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>1 minute to decide &#8216;guilty on the punching charge&#8217;<br />
8hr 59min deciding on the others.</p>
<p>Equally as valid as your proposition</p>
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		<title>By: bilbo</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-134921</link>
		<dc:creator>bilbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 08:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do you think punching in the face is ok, perhaps one punch is ok, 10 is not? &quot;

Um no why do you think I believe that ?

I also not sure what you&#039;re comparing this case with - I&#039;d suggest if it was as simple and clear cut as the defendant punching his child in the face it would not have taken the jury nine hours of deliberation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you think punching in the face is ok, perhaps one punch is ok, 10 is not? &#8221;</p>
<p>Um no why do you think I believe that ?</p>
<p>I also not sure what you&#8217;re comparing this case with &#8211; I&#8217;d suggest if it was as simple and clear cut as the defendant punching his child in the face it would not have taken the jury nine hours of deliberation.</p>
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		<title>By: bilbo</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-134919</link>
		<dc:creator>bilbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 08:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...........therefore scumbags who abuse children can&#039;t escape justice. &quot;

Does the name Kahui ring any bells ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..therefore scumbags who abuse children can&#8217;t escape justice. &#8221;</p>
<p>Does the name Kahui ring any bells ?</p>
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		<title>By: Some recommended reading &#171; Ideologically Impure</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-134917</link>
		<dc:creator>Some recommended reading &#171; Ideologically Impure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 07:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eddie at The Standard basically sums up my feelings on &#8220;Punch in the face&#8221; dad guilty. Don&#8217;t even get me started on the idiot &#8220;commentator&#8221; on Sunrise this morning [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Eddie at The Standard basically sums up my feelings on &#8220;Punch in the face&#8221; dad guilty. Don&#8217;t even get me started on the idiot &#8220;commentator&#8221; on Sunrise this morning [...]</p>
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		<title>By: aj</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-134915</link>
		<dc:creator>aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 07:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah yes, I have, I agree, the law has caught up with any vicous assaults that have been brought before the courts and this guys actions were only slightly less sickening. Any parent/human who thinks punching a small child in the face is acceptable behaviour needs counselling. Do you think punching in the face is ok, perhaps one punch is ok, 10 is not? where will you draw the line please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah yes, I have, I agree, the law has caught up with any vicous assaults that have been brought before the courts and this guys actions were only slightly less sickening. Any parent/human who thinks punching a small child in the face is acceptable behaviour needs counselling. Do you think punching in the face is ok, perhaps one punch is ok, 10 is not? where will you draw the line please.</p>
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		<title>By: Spectator</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-134910</link>
		<dc:creator>Spectator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 06:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about all the sickening child abuse cases where Section 59 was used as a defence, then? I&#039;m surprised you don&#039;t remember the so-called &quot;Timaru Lady&quot; case. That defence is no longer available, and therefore scumbags who abuse children can&#039;t escape justice. That is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about all the sickening child abuse cases where Section 59 was used as a defence, then? I&#8217;m surprised you don&#8217;t remember the so-called &#8220;Timaru Lady&#8221; case. That defence is no longer available, and therefore scumbags who abuse children can&#8217;t escape justice. That is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Spectator</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/punch-in-the-face-dad-guilty/comment-page-1/#comment-134908</link>
		<dc:creator>Spectator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 06:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speak for yourself. The only people I see glorifying child abuse are vermin like McCoskrie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speak for yourself. The only people I see glorifying child abuse are vermin like McCoskrie.</p>
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