Rock and a hard place

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1. Lanthanide 1

   11 May 2012 at 1:21 pm

   At the moment there’s a lot of demand from Japan since they shut down their nuclear power. I saw a number of something like 500,000 barrels of oil per day demand just for this.
   • Colonial Viper 1.1

     11 May 2012 at 2:12 pm

     That’s about right; and it is also why the Japanese Government asked the US to be exempted from the embargo of Iranian oil. The Japanese nation risks being energy starved and even a 5% reduction of oil supplies would be a disaster for their economy.
     • Reagan Cline 1.1.1

       11 May 2012 at 8:09 pm

       Does the embargo apply to the recently publicised agreement for China to buy Iranian oil with renminbi ?
2. mickysavage 2

   11 May 2012 at 1:24 pm

   Agreed James and Central and Local Government need to realise that it is an issue for now, not something that you can put off for a decade or two.

   It should be at the forefront of every regional or national transport strategy as a threat.  Regrettably many strategies do not even mention it.
   • ad 2.1

     11 May 2012 at 1:40 pm

     Of course we could all do more, but let’s take that car-happy wonderland Auckland for an example. All the trains are going fully electric in 2013-14- and it’s taking a couple of years just to get all those masts and wires in place, let alone build the trains.

     There’s a comprehensive review of all bus routes coming up this year, which will make buses a whole lot more accessable to a lot more of Auckland.

     In some of the difficult stretches of Auckland, like say Remuera Road and Lincoln Road, there are already designs well advanced for putting in bus lanes in which cars travel only if they have three people in them.

     I am not proposing that anyone be grateful, but things are underway in Auckland that have never been this comprehensive or effective in their efficiency drive.

     Regrettably, this is never going to be Melbourne.

     Just a question: have we really truly tested the elasticity of fuel demand since the 1979-1981 oil shocks?
   • Pete 2.2

     11 May 2012 at 2:11 pm

     Local government may already be looking into it. Down here in Dunedin the council commissioned the Peak Oil Vulnerability Analysis Report (PDF).

     The consultants recommend that Dunedin should work on five objectives to enhance adaptive capacity, social, economic and cultural wellbeing, while requiring significantly less expenditure on transport fuel:
     *Plan to reduce oil consumption by 50% by 2050
     *Transition Dunedin’s urban form with central city lifestyle development, and urban villages, accessed by 100km of safe bikeways and pedestrian zones and served by public transport.
     *Build an electric trolley bus system using efficient modern technology made in New Zealand.
     *Improve Dunedin’s average vehicle fleet efficiency to 5 litres per 100km by 2030.
     *Audit and track fuel use in all sectors, organisations and households and develop action plans.

     I would imagine Wellington under Celia Wade-Brown is exploring similar paths. What matters is whether these are genuine plans rather than just greenwashing.
     • McFlock 2.2.1

       11 May 2012 at 3:20 pm

       Given the council just got another $2mil of six-month operating shortfall from the stadium, I’d call it greenwashing.
       • Pete 2.2.1.1

         11 May 2012 at 4:15 pm

         Between the new waterfront hotel/apartment complex announced today and the discussion of suburban development in this week’s Star, they might be moving towards the “central city lifestyle development and urban village” model. You’ll recall they also announced a couple of months ago that they plan to look at the one-way system. If they plan it right, they can have a gradual transition rather than a radical revolution.
         • McFlock 2.2.1.1.1

           11 May 2012 at 4:51 pm

           I guess I’m just in a grumpy mood 🙂
           • Pete 2.2.1.1.1.1

             11 May 2012 at 4:59 pm

             Ah. To be fair, cynicism is probably my default position when it comes to local government too.
3. Bill 3

   11 May 2012 at 3:16 pm

   “…it requires a new outlook that doesn’t assume growth is natural, inevitable, and the be all and end all of our society.”

   And so your post-market economy suggestion is…?
   • Dr Terry 3.1

     11 May 2012 at 8:06 pm

     Yes, you might well quote and question the awful Armstrong statement, Bill. What does he believe is the “be all and end all” of culture and society? I would love to hear his answer (something better, I hope, than trite words like “new challenge”, “new outlook”). Apparently society can get along fine with no growth (economic, psychological, educational, spiritual, – even oil). Let’s just settle for happy stagnation!
4. maffoo 4

   11 May 2012 at 4:05 pm

   I know, lets sell the only means we have of making fossil-fuel-free energy !! that’ll help !
5. captain hook 5

   11 May 2012 at 6:44 pm

   fait ccompli.
   we are moving into a new reality.
   woo hoo.
   watchout!
6. Liberal Realist 6

   11 May 2012 at 7:28 pm

   EROEI = Usable Acquired Energy / Energy Expended.
   ^It’s a simple equation, too bad our politicians can’t grasp it.
7. Georgecom 7

   12 May 2012 at 12:19 am

   Good news for the economy, price of oil is easing. Bad news for motorists, so is the dollar. So I am not expecting to see the price of oil slip much in the next little while, if it goes down at all. I do wonder however how motorists will feel if it edges up around $2.40 or more if the dollars slips below 70 c US.
8. johnm 8

   12 May 2012 at 12:31 am

   Richard Heinberg :

   “Visualize life without gasoline. You might as well start doing so now, at least in imagination; soon enough, this will no longer be an exercise. Already prices are high and volatile. Next we’ll see international conflicts that shut down big portions of the global oil trade for weeks or months at a time. Strategic reserves will be tapped. The government will commandeer supplies for the military and police. One way or another, you’ll be using much less gasoline than you do today. How will your food be grown and transported? How will you get around? Will your job still exist? How will your community function?”

   Link: http://www.postcarbon.org/blog-post/840439-visualize-gasoline

   The end of the oil age has been happening since Peak Oil in 2005 and the Financial Collapse of 2008.
   We are at the end of growth too obviously how will we share a contracting pie? With greater inequality or more sharing?
   • johnm 8.1

     12 May 2012 at 12:59 am

     View This Video about the end of growth by Heinberg:

     link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQqDS9wGsxQ
9. jack 9

   12 May 2012 at 10:37 pm

   There are other sources of energy. Water being one of them but the oil cartels will do anything
   to keep that technology away from the pubic. Google Stan Meyers. He is one of many pioneers who had a deep desire to make us less dependent on oil. Took him 20 years to break the water
   molecule down and get more energy than what he put in..He thought he was a patriot.. He’s dead. Also, Google Nicola Tesla. His one aim in life was to make electricity free to everyone.. Yet, no one has heard of him. The father of AC current.

   The oil cartels rule the world. We’re at their mercy. Simple fact. You don’t have to like it but you
   can’t do anything about it. On the positive side shipping might be too expensive and local manufacturs will be back in business. More jobs.
10. darkhorse 10

    13 May 2012 at 9:09 pm

    Even the IMF have woken up to peak oil see following for reference

    and Muldoon was right – think big was necessary – just not in 1980

    http://howdaft.blogspot.co.nz/2012/05/muldoon-vindicated.html 

    http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/cat/longres.aspx?sk=25884 

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