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Russel Norman to Colin Craig – Bring it on

Written By: - Date published: 7:28 am, February 18th, 2014 - 120 comments
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With the hope that this comment will not result in a solicitor’s letter from Chapman Tripp it seems that Colin Craig is overly sensitive to criticism.  He has had Chapman Tripp write to Green’s leader Russel Norman seeking an apology and retraction for Norman saying the following:

Now the thing about Colin Craig is he thinks that a woman’s place is in the kitchen and a gay man’s place is in the closet.”

As Craig is obviously very sensitive about his reputation I would ask people to be careful about how they comment but I have heard much, much, much worse being said about politicians.  And it is not unknown for Conservative politicians to prefer that women occupy traditional roles in marriage including those that require significant amounts of time in the kitchen and gay rights do not normally feature large in those policies which conservatives advocate for.

If Craig is upset that he has been wrongly maligned for being unsympathetic to gay rights then he could come out and say what he actually believes in.  Most Kiwis prefer that people are up front about what they believe in.

Craig does seem to have a habit of reaching for the lawyers when someone says something that is not nice about him.  The last occasion was when the Civilian claimed that Craig said this about Maurice Williamson’s speech on gay rainbows and the Marriage Equality bill:

Williamson likes to talk about big gay rainbows,” said Craig, “but it would help if he understood what the rainbow actually means. After Noah’s flood, God painted a giant rainbow across the sky, which was a message that he would never again flood the world, unless we made him very angry. And we have.”

The article was clearly satirical and I should add, quickly, that Craig never actually said this.  It was a joke.

The threat of action against Ben Uffindell resulted in this outstanding response by Danyl McLaughlan which has to be read to be appreciated.  The failure of Craig to get his lawyers to write to McLaughlan seeking a retraction of the statement that that he (Craig) enjoyed having his nipples grated with a citrus zester could make some wonder about the allegation although I again hasten to add that I am sure it is not true.  As well this further allegation by Uffindell that Craig smacked other people’s children for money passed without response.  For completion I am certain that this also was biting funny satire meant to be enjoyed by people laughing and I am sure that it is not true either.

Craig has not been beyond saying bad things about others.  For instance he recently insulted all young Kiwi women by claiming that they were the most promiscuous in the world.  Perhaps to respond there could be a group defamation action by young kiwi women against Mr Craig for making that allegation.

To be honest Craig needs to get over it.  Politics is a tough game and these sorts of issues should be debated publicly and passionately.  Sending lawyers letters and attempting to resolve these debates in Court is ludicrous in the extreme.

And the case of Atkinson v Lange has established a high protective threshold for defamation cases brought by politicians.  The case recognised a defence of qualified privilege for comments about the actions and qualities of actual or prospective politicians so far as those actions or qualities directly affect their capacity to meet public responsibilities.  Generally discussion about his social views must, in the absence of malice, be protected.

Norman has responded by saying he will not be apologising and has referred to a tweet from Craig where he suggested that homosexuality was not normal.  Norman will obviously not be backing down.  The two of them should find a hall somewhere and debate the issues.  This will allow Craig to say what he does believe in, quickly and clearly.

The stupid thing about defamation proceedings is that it takes months and months for the debate to be advanced.  If Craig just said what he does believe in and responded to the allegations then this debate can happen rather quickly.  Reaching for the lawyers will have a chilling effect on the debate and will stifle a discussion that should be robust and vigorous.

Craig should also be wary about the Streisand effect.  And he needs to grow a thicker hide.  I hear this is vital for anyone wanting to have a long career in politics.

lprent: Putting this post on moderation. If Colin Craig wants to screw up his political career by being a thin-skinned prima donna like Barbara Streisand, then I’d prefer the site to not be too closely involved in watching the process. On the other hand, Colin Craig is a total munter if he doesn’t think that this is going to make him an object of ridicule – especially by the blogs. The weak-kneed gutless wimp (my opinion) should decide if he wants to be a politician or not. Because Russel Norman’s opinion of his attitudes is going to be the least of the scrutiny that every politician can expect. So I will personally select the comments that are allowed through here to ensure that I will personally get involved in the fun.

BTW: Check out Andrew Geddis at Pundit saying exactly the same opinion as Russel Norman. I’d expect that Chapman Tripp will be overjoyed at the fees.

120 comments on “Russel Norman to Colin Craig – Bring it on”

  1. bad12 1

    It appears that the Electoral Commission really need seek an urgent law change surrounding just who can be eligible to stand as a candidate in the up-coming general election,

    It’s becoming glaringly apparent that all candidates must have physical measurements taken, a simple metrical test, to ascertain just how far above actual Terra Firma, while perambulating, an individual candidates knuckles are positioned in relation to that earth,

    This from Colin Craig on TV3News last night, ”I don’t expect gays to have to hide in their closets”, makes me believe that Colin must either perambulate with His knuckles either in contact with the pavement or not far above it, or, Craig has a well developed cynically amusing sense of humor and is simply taking the piss big time,

    Seriously tho, to have no understanding of the phraseology when speaking of the gay community being either ‘in’ or ‘out’ of the closet in the year 2014 would have most of accusing such an individual of either having been kidnapped by aliens and whisked off to a planet populated by functional idiots for the largest part of their existence, or, scratch the kidnapped by aliens bit and the end result is simply ”a functional idiot”,

    Of course, once the laughter at Craig has exhausted itself on the stupidity/hilarity of whatever provokes the neurons inside the cranial cavity of Craig to have him continually talk with one foot or the other firmly wedged either in his anus or olfactory hole we have to examine whether any Court would except that Craig could be offended by the making of a statement that He had no actual understanding of taking Russell Normans speech to the Big-Gay-Out literally instead of figuratively as the allusions to Craig’s foibles were obviously intended by Russell,

    Of course this is Politics with a capital P, and Craig, having made Himself a public figure can expect little sympathy from the Court having the precedent of the Lange defamation case which placed a significant hurdle in front of those practicing the dark art of politics to successfully mount defamation cases, in the jargon of the streets the Judge simply voiced the view that those involved in politics should simply ”harden the f**k” up” when cut deeply by the barbs of those that oppose them,

    Drilling down a little deeper, is Craig, having been used for month’s prior to 2014 as a potential coalition partner for National/slash media whore simply suffering from a media attention deficit having had more than His fair share of bizarre, stupid, and, dumb comments wrung from His lips,and then, being tossed aside like a blow up rubber sex toy having had multiple users all with bad hygenic habits,

    Is it a coincidence that the day after Russell Norman delivers a keynote speech to open the Green Parties 2014 election campaign that up pops Craig ranting and raving about having His ego offended by a couple of phrases Russell Norman used in a previous speech, which incidently Craig would seem to have no understanding of…

    [karol: maybe this should be moved to micky’s post on this topic. I’ve noted Lynn wants to moderate comments on this topic]

    • bad12 1.1

      Yeah true, its a bit of a loooong comment and i was typing it and didn’t see the post come up…

  2. You_Fool 2

    Can’t we all be Spartacus? Can he sue everyone if we all call him names? It might revive the NZ post service at the very least…

    • @ you fool..

      ..i’ll kick it off..

      [deleted]

      ..(there ya go..!..)

      ..phillip ure..

      [lprent: You need to look at what the law on defamation is. In that case you were stating as fact what I suspect was really opinion. If you did think it was fact, then you’d have needed to show why you thought it was fact. It is hard to express that with dots. Usually links are more effective. :twisted: ]

  3. karol 3

    Labour’s David Parker offers to defend Norman:

    Parker, a lawyer and former attorney-general, defended Dr Norman’s claim as ‘‘absolutely fair comment’’.

    ‘‘The idea politicians can’t make value judgments is wrong and if Colin Craig is so silly as to think he can repress public criticisms of his extreme positions he is both wrong in law and principle and I will be one of many lawyers to offer to represent him for free in court. It’s a nonsense.’’

  4. Anne 4

    This fool has made a lot of money out of real-estate. Real-estate agents are not always known for their honesty and trustworthiness. He thinks he can get his way by threatening to sue anyone who says something about him he doesn’t like. I call that harassment and intimidation – a criminal offence.

    Btw, he made a statement on RNZ this morning calling for “informed” political debates. Informed? This is the most ignorant, backward looking uninformed politician that has ever walked this land.

    • ! anne..

      “..This is the most ignorant, backward looking uninformed politician that has ever walked this land..”

      careful..!

      ..he’ll sue ya..!

      ..easy to prove tho’..eh..?

      ..phillip ure..

    • An absolute plonker Annie ,where the hell has he come from ?However it does make one realize just how desperate Key is for power.

  5. framu 5

    on the rnz, colin was trying to claim that all his previous lawyers letters resulted in retractions (7 or 8 of them!) and that (in his fevered imagination) means that the other parties had agreed with him.

    No, colin – that means they didnt have the means or will to get into a legal dispute!

    What kind of moron thinks that getting a result via legal threats means youve won some kind of debate on an issue?

    If colin really wants to raise the debate he should suck it up, put the lawyers back in their box, stop issuing threats and you know… debate

  6. One Anonymous Bloke 6

    Suggestion for a private member’s bill:

    The Just Deserts Act.

    The purpose of this act is the compulsory marriage of Colin Craig to Cameron Slater…

  7. Zorr 7

    The Conservatives are a precious wee sausage-fest, are they not? Maybe they should take the advice of their National bed mates and zip it.

    • Rosie 7.1

      Yes, where are you now Judith Collins? Is Craig in your sights for being a “sensitive wee sausage”?

      If not, he should be.

  8. bad12 8

    ”I don’t expect gays to have to hide in their closets”-so said Colin Craig on TV3News last night, i will admit to burning a couple of brain cells and having a near death experience as i choked upon my laughter at that portrayal of what actually occurs inside Colin’s nut,

    Not a f**king lot has to be the considered opinion of anyone having been subjected to that one sentence from the Conservative Party leader,

    If Craig has not the slightest understanding to the allusion inherent in the modern day English language use of gays being ”in” or ”out of the closet, and, ”women’s place is in the kitchen” then how the hell could Craig or anyone else be offended by a statement made with such references in them,

    Is there something going on here that we are not seeing, the day after Russell Norman makes a ground breaking much publicized speech about solar energy up pops Colin Craig with this absolutely bizarre claim which the news media all too happily use to push the intent and content of Dr Normans speech out of the headlines,

    A cynic, and at such an accusation i would have to innocently ask,”who me”,would have to begin a process of thought wondering aloud if Craig hasn’t been deliberately primed to make such a bizarre outburst with the intent of gaining the very result that it has,

    That cynic would then have to pose the question, is the job of work Craig has just done, with the aid of a more than compliant media, part payment, the deposit so to speak, for having National not stand a candidate in the East Coast Bays electorate in effect leaving this electorate open for Craig to ‘win’ it in 2014…

  9. mickysavage 9

    Andrew Geddis in his post suggested that bloggers everywhere should try and write a blogpost that says what Russel Norman did about Colin Craig, but in a way that avoids getting a letter from Chapman Tripp threatening you with a defamation action. He then nominated Scott Yorke who has replied with this beauty …

    http://imperatorfish.com/2014/02/18/im-sorry-colin-really-sorry/

    It is hard to imagine being threatened with defamation for apologising so profusely!

    Who next?

  10. Lanthanide 10

    One strategy for Russel Norman would be something like this:

    “I unreservedly apologise to Colin Craig for incorrectly stating my opinion about what he thinks as a fact, when clearly it is only my opinion. He is indeed correct that it is impossible for me to factually know what he thinks, and that I misspoke in my comments about him earlier.

    I therefore withdraw and retract the statement about what Colin Craig thinks.

    While on the subject of Colin Craig, I would like to offer my opinion that to me, it seems like he thinks that a woman’s place is in the kitchen and a gay man’s place is in the closet. Now I may be wrong in this opinion, but it is my personal belief based on his comments and behaviour in the past.”

    That should satisfy the legal defamation case, while clearly pointing out what a petty little man Colin is.

    • lprent 10.1

      I think that Russel Norman will run it to court.

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      Colin Craig has been seeking to constrain public debate with claimed defamation, which are in fact clearly opinion about political matters and are in the public interest. Time to put a stop to the pipsqueak using this as a way to garner headlines as what looks to me to be a simple publicity technique.

    • framu 10.2

      thats the blundering stupidity of the whole thing – unless norman can suddenly read minds theres no way he could claim to know what colin acutally thinks – ergo – its an opinion

  11. Debbie Brown 11

    I couldn’t help laughing at Mr Craig in this morning’s Herald. Apparently (well, according to him), he makes an excellent roast and this is clear evidence that he isn’t at all sexist.

    Sorry no link, I’m typing this on my phone. But hopefully even Mr Craig wouldn’t sue me for saying he makes a good roast?

    • Tracey 11.1

      LOLOL

    • bad12 11.2

      You could always pose the question: ‘If a competition were held tomorrow seeking the public’s view of who they would vote for as best portraying in public life all the attributes needed to fulfill a role of ”The Village Idiot” do you think Colin Craig win by a country mile???…

    • @debbie brown..

      ..i think you would be more in danger of being sued..

      ..if you claimed he had ‘burnt’ the roast…

      ..’chem-trails’-col..roast-burner…

      ..phillip ure..

      • Debbie Brown 11.3.1

        Lol, but burning the roast would be the manly, nongay thing to do – wouldn’t it? So no fear of defamation proceedings over that!

        He probably drowns it in Watties tomato sauce too, like a good manly kiwi bloke. Ugh

    • Jenny 11.4

      “Apparently (well, according to him), he makes an excellent roast…”

      So if you want a decent roast… Who ya gonna call?

  12. Bob 12

    Huh, personal attack by Russell Norman against an oppoition party and no-one see’s this one as a sign of desperation…..has Russell seen bad internal polling? Has he run out of policy ideas? Or does Mickeysavage just think that Stephanie Rodgers was being a sensitive wee sausage last week? http://thestandard.org.nz/the-politics-of-nastiness/

    • lprent 12.1

      …no-one see’s this one as a sign of desperation…

      Noone with any understanding of politics would. It is part and parcel of the political debate. John Key does it all of the time. Winston Peters has made a political career out of it etc etc It is part of the process of examining the fitness of people for public office where their personal characteristics and the ability to engage in robust debate are challenged. So far Colin Craig appears to be coming up short.

      But I guess your problem is that you don’t understand politics, and based on your past comments you’re only trolling anyway.

      BTW: Just finished reading an article about a nice study about the personality defects of trolls. It turns out that they tend strongly towards the sociopathic and sadistic. What a surprise. They certainly bring out the sadistic responses from me.

      • Bob 12.1.1

        lprent – I don’t so much troll as refrain from commenting until something really sticks out as blatant hypocracy/requires a retort as noone else seems to spot the obvious flaws in their statements….I see you had no such comments on the ‘Politics of Nastiness’ post just last week, have you only just obtained said ‘understanding of politics’ yourself?
        I agree Colin Craig is coming up well short during this campaign so far, but so is David Cunliffe and even Russell Norman is starting to show weaknesses for the first time I can remember, I am sure you wouldn’t have noticed this with your rose tinted glasses on though.

        • lprent 12.1.1.1

          you had no such comments on the ‘Politics of Nastiness’ post just last week

          Different topic. This one could have been titled “The problems of a dickhead trying to be a politician”. As you know I’m more interested in that topic and similar topics. And I have to work the brain on the odd occassion. That is when I forgo commenting and just moderate instead. At present I’m just testing code, so I get some time to comment.

          I am sure you wouldn’t have noticed this with your rose tinted glasses on though.

          Just as peering into the ultraviolet like a weird parody of Elton John has prevented you from noticing the disintegration of ACT into the cesspool of quite unelectable libertarians.

          Or that John Key is looking less and less in control of either himself or his minions recently. Dumping his poor deluded sockpuppet in it to prevent close scrutiny of a possible misuse of the security forces was pretty bad….

          • Bob 12.1.1.1.1

            “Just as peering into the ultraviolet like a weird parody of Elton John has prevented you from noticing the disintegration of ACT into the cesspool of quite unelectable libertarians” I have thought they have been a cesspool of unelectable libertarians ever since Don Brash and John Banks became their ‘dream team’ (the fact they make Rodney Hide look good speaks for itself!), they have not and will not be a significant enough part of this election to even warrant mentioning.

    • George D 12.2

      LOLWUT?

      The Greens did a media focused release of an energy policy on Sunday – do you think they’re interested in distracting from that?

      • Bob 12.2.1

        Obviously, otherwise Russell Norman would have simply stated that those were simply his opinions and this whole saga would go away. He hasn’t, and now he has completely distracted from his policy release.

        • mickysavage 12.2.1.1

          Do you honestly think that Norman would have foreseen the possibility of being threatened with defamation proceedings because of what he said? If he did I am sure that he would have said it in Parliament and not outside.

          • Bob 12.2.1.1.1

            No, I don’t, but as soon as he was threatened with defamation he should have tried to diffuse the situation by stating it was simply his opinion and keep the attention on his latest policy release rather than giving more limelight to Colin Craig.

            • mickysavage 12.2.1.1.1.1

              Why?

              Why should Norman back down? Why shouldn’t Craig?

              • Bob

                Are you serious? Let’s say as an example, I come out in public and say that you have been cheating on your wife with a sitting Labour MP, are you saying that you should apologise to me if this caused you distress? Colin Craig is an idiot, and in my opinion isn’t up to the job as a politician in NZ, but to say he should apologise for being publically maligned is equally idiotic (or should you now be apologising for me calling your question idiotic? Is that how it works now?)

                Russell Norman has allowed himself to get in a public shit fight with a guy percieved as the village idiot and dragged the focus away from his latest policy release, either Russell has internal polling to say this policy has a negative effect on their vote (unlikely), or he has stuffed up by allowing this to continue.

    • framu 12.3

      one is a pollie making a statement in a relevant setting, based on public statements by their opponent – the other is an attack based on clothing

      on what planet are those two situation even remotely the same?

      FFS bob – thats really weak – either or trooling hard or your just as much of a cry baby as “crazy (in my opinion) colin”

    • @ bob..

      ..is that you..?..’chem-trails’-col..?

      ..phillip ure..

    • Chooky 12.5

      @ Bob…it i a sign of desperation that the Right has their finger on the legal defamation trigger.

      John Key after having spying details on Winston for a long time has no coalition partners

      …. except NACT “dead horse” ( with its British Cambridge philosophy man jetted in to desperately try to act as vet and revive the moribund beast )

      …. and Colin the God Fathers “Chosen” Mr ” Spanker” and “sue the pants off you”……inwhich case Norman, the red headed Greeny Aussie, seemed a likely best candidate as the naughty boy deserving of a spanking

      imo…NACT will be going after the 800,000+ non voters( who would normally vote Labour) and if they can frame anyone on the Left for defamation they will threaten to sue the pants off them …they will also be trying to frame anyone on the Left as racist ( probably to cover their own tracks on Neo Lib policies which have most severely impacted on Maori and Pacific Islanders)

  13. Tracey 13

    Lucky Labour and Green MP’s don’t sue national Minister’s on a regular basis then. Winsto and Colin Craig at a cabinet table. Cameras please!

    • bad12 13.1

      True Tracey, it would have been a much watch comedy watching Slippery the Prime Minister trying to justify in the Court His ”Labour/Greens are the Devil-Beast” outburst,

      Considering my comment above to Debbie Brown about a competition to decide who in public life would best fulfill a role of The Village Idiot i now have to conclude the field has just doubled in size and there’s a odds on probability of a dead heat…

      • Tracey 13.1.1

        and Dunne proving his Taleban comment.

        • bad12 13.1.1.1

          LOLZ Tracey, i fogot that one, in the Village Idiot Stakes run in conjunction with the Wellington Cup at the Trentham Racecourse we are putting together a fine field of fillies…

  14. Cancerman 14

    To play devils advocate this is getting Colin attention. Also Colin only has to get to his 5%, which means he doesn’t have to appeal to the normal NZer who is put off by this behaviour. Just creates the impression he is the Conservative underdog to this, his target, 5%. By Norman letting this continue to a court gives Colin more attention close to election. This attention however is generally only good for the small parties and won’t be benefical to the Greens, who in this fight are the big established party.

    • lprent 14.1

      If this goes to court then apart from status hearings and challenges, it is far likely to be there in 2015 or even 2016 than it is in 2014. How small do you think that the courts backlog is?

    • Tracey 14.2

      Judging by some comments at kiwiblog I saw today… Colin might be stealing from that crowd…

    • ianmac 14.3

      That’s what I think. Those who would vote Conservative Party would likely be sympathetic to the alleged, “Now the thing about Colin Craig is he thinks that a woman’s place is in the kitchen and a gay man’s place is in the closet.”
      “It is what we really really want,” say the potential voters.

  15. George D 15

    Dr Russel Norman’s statement:

    https://www.greens.org.nz/press-releases/statement-green-party-co-leader-dr-russel-norman-colin-craig-s-allegation-defamation

    “I stand by my views, made both in my opening speech to Parliament earlier this year and restated at the Big Gay Out on Sunday February 9.

    “Colin Craig has said that gay relationships aren’t normal and that New Zealand women are promiscuous, I think those views are offensive.

    “I and the Green Party are proud of our record of fighting for rights and freedoms for New Zealand women and the gay community. I think our position on these issues and Colin Craig’s are very different.

    “It is clear to all that my statements were made within the context of political speeches, at the beginning of an election year.

    “It is only right that politicians robustly set out their positions, and I think that if Colin Craig wants to enter the political debate he needs to accept the criticisms that are going to come his way. That is just part and parcel of robust political debate.

    “Colin Craig now has a track record for making allegations of defamation if someone says something about his views that he doesn’t like. I don’t plan to back down from my statements because of a lawyer’s letter.

    “New Zealanders want to hear freely from their politicians. Colin Craig appears to want all our statements run past lawyers. We are not going to engage in that style of politics.

    “This election offers real choices for New Zealanders. And my message to women and gay New Zealanders is that I and the Green Party back your rights and freedoms.”

    • Rosie 15.1

      Beautifully said. Clearly showing who is the bigger person is. Right there, in that statement.

      If anything will C…Y Colin Craig be damaged by the path he is so childishly pursuing?

  16. captain hook 16

    colin cwaig is a theologaster and a pseudo christian. there is no love in hi sscheme. he really thinks he is moses so I guess he should convert to judaism.

  17. Roy 17

    It is my considered opinion that Colin Craig is too thin-skinned for politics. (Is it safe for me to say that?)

    • Jenny Kirk 17.1

      I think I might have called him something defamatory on the Labour website – too. Roy.
      Didn’t even think about it …… just called him a twerp. That’s a personal opinion though, so maybe I’m safe !

      And btw – Mickey – I too looked up the Pundit, and then Imperator Fish – both beautifully written pieces of “up yours” to Colin whatsit. So if you haven’t yet read them – Standard posters – do get onto them ….. they’ll keep you chuckling for hours

    • Tracey 17.2

      as long as you have a reasonable basis for your opinion ;)

  18. Hami Shearlie 18

    Are there really 5 percent of NZ people who would vote for Colin “Sue-er” Craig? Really? I’ve been thinking that his recent extreme diet might account for his “unusual” behaviour – He’s looking so gaunt these days I keep thinking I’m looking at Frank Spencer!!

    • Tracey 18.1

      I saw comments at kiwiblog today that suggest there are people in NZ with extreme conservative views. 5% of a total population who vote? I think it is possible.

      • JanM 18.1.1

        Anything’s possible in a country where John Key is the preferred leader!

        • logie97 18.1.1.1

          Look how they flocked to Dunne in that “worm experiment” election. United got heaps of the “fundy” vote – yep there are plenty of them out there.

          • North 18.1.1.1.1

            Hear hear as to Frank Spencer. Less the queeny voice. ShonKey Python owns that one. Beware however…….this is all a stunt…….a dirty stunt to blacken Norman. Christ I hope New Zealand wakes up before the election.

  19. Colonial Viper 19

    Chapman Tripp did their client a disservice by even agreeing to take such an inane and useless measure.

    Ah well, I guess its billable time for a partner @ $650/hr (+GST + disbursements).

  20. Rich 20

    Did Barbra Streisand sue Duck Sauce?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp-YTDDyrNI

    You’ve just wasted hours of my time that I will forced to spend in Ableton editing the words “Colin Craig” onto the track.

  21. bad12 21

    ”I don’t expect gays to have to hide in their closets”- Colin Craig TV3News 17/02/14,

    This begs another question, does Colin Craig think and converse in an until now unknown language called Dunce while Russell Norman thinks and converses in that language many of us know as intelligent English???,

    Will Dunce become an official language of the Parliament in the unlikely and bizarre event of Craig being elected to the Parliament…

    • JanM 21.1

      Has anyone thought to ask him yet where he thinks they should hide?

    • North 21.2

      I suspect that sadly this whole bizo is designed to bring Craig’s getting an electorate seat in parliament all that closer. And in my worst nightmares I think that with ShonKey Python’s cynical machinations it will happen. Craig is positively yelling out to those who really really really do believe that gay men etc etc and women etc etc. Worse, their hand wringing tea and scone making wives will vote right along. Imagine……Sarah Palin in pants. In parliament.

      No !!!!

      • bad12 21.2.1

        Colin Craig, Slippery, and, Winston Peters round the same Cabinet table, the idea just about makes me want to become a million different people so i could vote for it, there must be a Doctorate degree in a study of the dynamics that would be involved in such a sweet menage a trois

        i would like to vehemently disagree with you North, but, well remember the ‘worm’ and what that did for the Hairdo,

        Of course Dunne dead-panned his Mr sensible act to the max in that little side show and i can’t quite see the people of East Coast Bays voting for a virtual idiot…

  22. Tracey 22

    “the reason for this is to allow scrutineers to more easily challenge a voter’s credentials to vote. If a scrutineer does this, the returning officer automatically has to take a statutory declaration, with the underlying threat that a false statement is a criminal act.”

    I confess I only skim-read the amendment bill because I have an appointment to go to. BUT can you link me to the sections which relate to this part (above). I want to know what the criteria for such a challenge are?

  23. Crunchtime 23

    MICKYSAVAGE, surprisingly enough I think John Armstrong wrote a more amusing article than you on this subject….

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11204339

    “Running to mum no way to play politics” – what a headline! Baaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha.

    Harden up Colin.

  24. Bill 24

    But do you see how quickly and easily this sort of nonsense creates an environment of self censorship and has people ‘walking on egg shells’?

    That’s the very unfunny thing about it all.

    That MS feels it’s safer to immediately disclaim certain statements and that Lynn feels a need to moderate the thread is not at all funny and not healthy – not in any way shape or form.

    • lprent 24.1

      Agreed.

      BTW: The main reason that I’m specifically moderating this post is because then I have also personally approved each and every comment. That means that if some lawyer from Chapman Tripp (lawyers for the thin of skin idiots) tries to expand the scope of any case against the site, then I have a good argument to confine it to myself. This limits the potential motions of discovery.

  25. Clemgeopin 25

    Oh dear crazy Colin,

    You are such a thin skinned sensitive wee sausage!….Now sue me!

    You need to understand that in politics, there is robust debate. The way to handle it is being proactive in defending yourself by rebutting your opponents with logic, clarification and wit. It is silly to rush to your queen’s counsels like a little cry baby.

    Here is a leg up for you. All you have to do is make some profound statement to clarify what your opinion really is:

    For example, say something like,

    “No, Norman, you are wrong and I don’t think so!”

    or, say,

    ” A woman’s place is not in the kitchen and a gay man’s place is not in the closet.”

    or, better still, for some real effect and great publicity, say,

    “I think a gay man’s place is in the kitchen and a woman’s place is certainly in the closet!”

    End of matter! Who can argue against that?

    You are welcome!

  26. veutoviper 26

    But … what about gay women? Where is their place? The kitchen pantry?

    • veutoviper 26.1

      Note – above was meant in a sacastic sense. Had second thoughts and thought I had deleted it, but does not appear to have worked.

      • Rosie 26.1.1

        I’m glad it wasn’t deleted veutoviper. I ackshully did laugh out loud when I read your comment. I think all reading it would understand that it is sarcastic humour.

        Thats one angle of this threatened defamation case – that it provokes humorous retort and puts Craig’s actions into perspective: silliness. Unfortunately the flip side is the atmosphere of censorship it creates as Bill points out above at #24

        • veutoviper 26.1.1.1

          I am pleased that you laughed, Rosie. But I totally agree with Bill’s comment @ 24 above that the flip side is an inciduous form of censorship/threat.

          And as stated by others, in my personal opinion, CC is just a bully and a wimp who thinks that money (to call in the lawyers) can be used to threaten and intimidate.

          For once I actually agreed with John Armstong (will wonders ever cease!) that CC just runs to mummy.

          And @ Anne below, not sure the wives would want gay women under their sinks …. the mind boggles at the picture!

          • Anne 26.1.1.1.1

            not sure the wives would want gay women under their sinks …. the mind boggles at the picture!

            I doubt they would have much say in the matter if married to the Colin Craigs of this world.

    • Anne 26.2

      You reading my mind vv?

      Actually I wondered whether they could go under the kitchen sink and the wives could work on top of the kitchen sink. Makes it nice and simple for neanderthal Colin. Won’t hurt his little brain. I suppose there is one there somewhere.

  27. BM 27

    How many Christians vote or more importantly don’t vote?
    According to wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_New_Zealand#Denominations_and_organisations

    2,027,418 in NZ align themselves with some sort of Christian denomination

    For quite a while in NZ it’s being open slather on any one who believes in Christianity.

    They’re constantly being accused of homophobia , beating their wife’s, abusing their children etc, especially from left wing quarters.
    They seem to have to endlessly justify their beliefs and the way they live their lives.

    I’d actually say Colin will gain quite a lot of support with Christians around NZ for not putting up with Normans nonsense and showing Christians aren’t the extreme intolerant nutbars, certain people make them out to be.

    • Debbie Brown 27.1

      Actually BM I’m a Christian but have no intention whatsoever of voting Conservative.

      Perhaps if Colin Craig actually attended church, he might be a bit more attuned to what we generally do believe, rather than making us all look like a bunch of homophobic bigots. For example, the sermon last Sunday was about restoring relationships, forgiveness and making peace. Not one word about gay relationships or smacking, even though such things seem to be the crux of Conservative party policies.

    • Pete 27.2

      The vote share of the three largest denominations – Catholics, Anglicans and Presbyterians probably track with the population as a whole. Maybe slightly leftwards if you consider Catholic attitudes to social justice and the reception of the Pope’s change in tone. People in these denominations aren’t so slavish to their respective hierarchies on social issues as non-religious people might believe.

      Cunliffe has shut down abortion as an election issue – which is probably the only issue left now that would provoke a lurch to the right amongst some active church members (I think he could shield himself from some of that with a royal commission and a conscience vote on its recommendations if he wanted to liberalise the law).

      Methodists, the one other denomination of more than 100k have a history of charity so they may lean leftwards too.

      Ratana with 40k members has a long association with Labour, although that has loosened in recent years.

      That leaves Pentecostals, Mormons and Baptists who together have around 160,000 members (I don’t know the breakdown between those over and under 18, though). They tend to be more conservative and would probably be more likely to be receptive to Colin Craig.

    • NickS 27.3

      :roll:

      BM once more descends into utter fantasy, this time the ye olde persecution complex one, along with thinking Christians are monolithic in their behaviour etc.

    • Paul 27.4

      Maybe CC might want to hear what Jesus said about the rich’s chances of getting to heaven.

  28. Flip 28

    Craig will have to say what his view is on gays and women’s role. Also what is his party position and policies. As its leader does his view represent the policy of his party?

    Otherwise we have no idea whether Norman’s comments are metaphorically correct so not sueable. Craig has no case unless he states his views and the relationship of those to his party policies as being different from the way portraited.

    As outlined above it does require information so raising level of debate.

    • Enough is Enough 28.1

      We don’t want to give this guy air to express his 17th century views.

      There are bigots in this country who will swarm to him if we allow im to express his rubbish.

      Think Orewa One. National has not looked back since that date.

      We need to silence the cretin. Not ask him to explain.

      • chris73 28.1.1

        Damn straight, the last thing we want is people with differing views and representing people who hold those same views

  29. Dosey 29

    He’s a tool. Nothing but a tool trying to keep headlines…

  30. Puckish Rogue 30

    So Norman made some stuff up about Craig to pander to the crowd and Craig now wants an apology for it…

    Maybe Normans not used to someone calling out the Greens

  31. Ron 31

    If case goes ahead and as someone else said it could be a way off, then I presume that Greens will have to bankroll Norman. If so they might well need a fighting fund. I for one will be very willing to kick in to any such fund.
    And I am not a member of Greens.
    I hope that everyone in The Stgandard would feel likewise

    • lprent 31.1

      I hope that everyone in The Stgandard would feel likewise

      I do. If they open a bank account for it, I’d be happy to chip in.

      • Clemgeopin 31.1.1

        Me too.

        I dare say, lots and lots of people of all political persuasion, including some from the right, will want to contribute too.

  32. mickysavage 32

    I reckon that Norman should use the response stipulated in Arkell v. Pressdram which is a UK case from 1971. The case involved a claim for defamation made by a chap Arkell against the editor of Private Eye. Correspondence was exchanged as follows:

    Solicitor (Goodman Derrick & Co.):

    We act for Mr Arkell who is Retail Credit Manager of Granada TV Rental Ltd. His attention has been drawn to an article appearing in the issue of Private Eye dated 9th April 1971 on page 4. The statements made about Mr Arkell are entirely untrue and clearly highly defamatory. We are therefore instructed to require from you immediately your proposals for dealing with the matter. Mr Arkell’s first concern is that there should be a full retraction at the earliest possible date in Private Eye and he will also want his costs paid. His attitude to damages will be governed by the nature of your reply.

    Private Eye:

    We acknowledge your letter of 29th April referring to Mr J. Arkell. We note that Mr Arkell’s attitude to damages will be governed by the nature of our reply and would therefore be grateful if you would inform us what his attitude to damages would be, were he to learn that the nature of our reply is as follows: fuck off.

  33. Rich 33

    I notice that Steven Price is asking for discovery of all Craig’s “comments that he has made in relation to gay people and women, including emails and other correspondence”, should he pursue the case. That should be good for a few laffs.

  34. SPC 34

    Maybe someone should point out that no one goes to the event at which Norman spoke to be understated.

    Of course the position of Craig was going to be overstated/exaggerated to the point of placing him back in time to some past era stereotype.

    To misunderstand this context and call the misrepresentation “slanderous”, shows out of touch with modern society and such occasions someone like Craig is.

  35. Strange, I thought that Colin Craig used both [deleted] when he inserted the [deleted] into a well oiled [deleted] [deleted] with [deleted] and a watermelon. Not that I’m saying he’s [reference to sexual orientation deleted through lack of verification] but his fondness for using his mouth to [deleted] and to [deleted – not anatomically feasible] suggests he’s just jealous of [deleted] and his pet sheep, Waldo.

    All lawsuits can be emailed to me via my blog. Or shoved [deleted] through the opening at your [deleted]. Or [DELETED – that’s just WRONG!]

  36. risildowgtn 36

    This has made me laugh:

    Nikki Kaye and her teammates Ricardo Simich and Maurice Williamson offered plenty of humour of their own, along with some sensible arguments in favour of the moot.

    Their side was full of high jinks, with fake make out sessions between Kaye and Simich, and Kaye and Williamson, of course leading to one between Williamson and Simich too, leading Carlson to pipe up with “Colin Craig’s left nut just exploded”.

    Craig jokes were in fashion all night, leading Elwood to pithily point out “having not one, but two National MPs making fun of Colin Craig is going to look really funny if you do win this year and end with him as your ‘Science Minister’.”

    http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/2/article_14640.php

  37. Tanz 37

    Just shows the left are worried about Craig, as is the leftist MSM.

    Criag is refreshing in that he wants what is best for NZ and I hope he wins the case.
    Norman is just like Key.

    • Clemgeopin 37.1

      No, sorry to disappoint you, but Colin Craig will blink first and withdraw the defamation suit showing that he is full of BS and bluster and is gutless.

    • One Anonymous Bloke 37.2

      Seriously, Tanz, Colin’s going to lose. He already looks like a fool, and if he carries on he’ll just become a loser who looks like a fool.

      The cut and thrust of politics is beyond this man if he can’t take Russel’s blunt barbs.

      • Tanz 37.2.1

        the MSM are spinning it all out of proportion and are doing all they can to make Craig look a fool. Of course, Russell Norman can do no wrong…

  38. Clemgeopin 38

    TIME LEFT FOR THE CRAIG vs NORMAN DEFAMATION DEADLINE :

    15 HOURS.

    [Readers, please update this when you can as I am not here all the time]

  39. S 39

    FYI (as has been referred to in a previous comment): it’s “Barbra” Striesand. She didn’t get a namechange for nuthin’.

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    White Ribbon Day is an opportunity for all men to stand up and affirm to never commit, condone or remain silent about violence towards women, says Labour’s Associate Justice Spokesperson Kelvin Davis.  “Violence towards women is rampant across all sectors...
    Labour
  • White Ribbon day should last all year
    White Ribbon Day is an opportunity for all men to stand up and affirm to never commit, condone or remain silent about violence towards women, says Labour’s Associate Justice Spokesperson Kelvin Davis.  “Violence towards women is rampant across all sectors...
    Labour
  • Report confirms John Key abused power of PM’s Office
    Today's Inspector General of Intelligence and Security's (IGIS) report confirms that the Prime Minister's office engaged in a serious abuse of power, says the Green Party.The IGIS report looked at the release of an Official Information Act request to disgraced...
    Greens
  • IGIS report a damning indictment on former spy boss
    The report by Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security into the release of classified documents is a sad and damning indictment on former spy boss Warren Tucker, Labour’s MP for Mount Roskill and former leader Phil Goff says.  “This report upholds...
    Labour
  • IGIS report a damning indictment on former spy boss
    The report by Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security into the release of classified documents is a sad and damning indictment on former spy boss Warren Tucker, Labour’s MP for Mount Roskill and former leader Phil Goff says.  “This report upholds...
    Labour
  • South Auckland disadvantaged by new decile rankings
    New decile rankings have South Auckland schools at scores that show they are much more disadvantaged than the national average, says Labour’s Associate Auckland  Issues spokesperson Louisa Wall.  “As a measurement of disadvantage it is alarming that the average score...
    Labour
  • South Auckland disadvantaged by new decile rankings
    New decile rankings have South Auckland schools at scores that show they are much more disadvantaged than the national average, says Labour’s Associate Auckland  Issues spokesperson Louisa Wall.  “As a measurement of disadvantage it is alarming that the average score...
    Labour
  • Sexism, rape culture and power
    Our discourse around sexual violence is complicated. All too often perpetrators are described as ‘monsters’, so when someone you know tells you the lovely man that you really like sexually abused them it’s hard to believe, because they’re not a...
    Greens
  • Time for an economy that works for all New Zealanders
    New Labour Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says the challenge for the National Government is to support an economy that delivers good, sustainable jobs paying decent wages. “It’s time the economy delivered for all New Zealanders, not just the fortunate few....
    Labour
  • Time for an economy that works for all New Zealanders
    New Labour Finance spokesperson Grant Robertson says the challenge for the National Government is to support an economy that delivers good, sustainable jobs paying decent wages. “It’s time the economy delivered for all New Zealanders, not just the fortunate few....
    Labour
  • New faces, wise heads in bold Labour line up
    Labour Leader Andrew Little today announced a bold new caucus line up which brings forward new talent and draws on the party’s depth of experience....
    Labour
  • Plan for mega factory farm ruffles feathers
    Not long ago I wrote about the proposal to build a mega factory farm in the small township of Patumahoe that would confine over 300, 000 hens to colony cages. This week the resource consent hearing for the proposed factory...
    Greens
  • National opens door further to Chinese property speculators
    National has further opened the door to Chinese property speculators with the registration of a third Chinese bank here that will make it easier for Chinese investors to invest in New Zealand properties, the Green Party said today."As well, former...
    Greens
  • National restarts logging in West Coast forests
    “Dead wood also contributes by providing nutrients to soils, supporting the agents of wood decay such as fungi and invertebrates and it is a key habitat for the regeneration of some trees.” Annual Report 2013/14, page 29. The National Government has...
    Greens
  • National restarts logging in West Coast forests
    “Dead wood also contributes by providing nutrients to soils, supporting the agents of wood decay such as fungi and invertebrates and it is a key habitat for the regeneration of some trees.” Annual Report 2013/14, page 29. The National Government has...
    Greens
  • National restarts logging in West Coast forests
    “Dead wood also contributes by providing nutrients to soils, supporting the agents of wood decay such as fungi and invertebrates and it is a key habitat for the regeneration of some trees.” Annual Report 2013/14, page 29. The National Government has...
    Greens
  • Lab plan the beginning of slippery slope?
    It’s time for new Health Minister Jonathan Coleman to show his hand on plans to privatise lab services which doctors are warning could put patients’ lives at risk, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. “Clinicians have sent the Government some...
    Labour
  • Lab plan the beginning of slippery slope?
    It’s time for new Health Minister Jonathan Coleman to show his hand on plans to privatise lab services which doctors are warning could put patients’ lives at risk, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. “Clinicians have sent the Government some...
    Labour
  • A-G called on to look into flagship ‘cost-saving’ programme
    New health Minister Jonathan Coleman has some serious questions to answer following a decision to wind up the Government’s flagship health savings provider HBL just a fortnight after giving it the green light to implement its plans, Labour’s Health spokesperson...
    Labour
  • A-G called on to look into flagship ‘cost-saving’ programme
    New health Minister Jonathan Coleman has some serious questions to answer following a decision to wind up the Government’s flagship health savings provider HBL just a fortnight after giving it the green light to implement its plans, Labour’s Health spokesperson...
    Labour
  • Prime Minister’s warped view of history
    Students who sat NCEA level 3 history exams last week might be very worried to hear the Prime Minister tell a Radio Station that New Zealand was one of the few countries that was settled peacefully by Europeans. Those students who wrote...
    Greens
  • Prime Minister’s warped view of history
    Students who sat NCEA level 3 history exams last week might be very worried to hear the Prime Minister tell a Radio Station that New Zealand was one of the few countries that was settled peacefully by Europeans. Those students who wrote...
    Greens
  • Prime Minister’s warped view of history
    Students who sat NCEA level 3 history exams last week might be very worried to hear the Prime Minister tell a Radio Station that New Zealand was one of the few countries that was settled peacefully by Europeans. Those students who wrote...
    Greens
  • Climate of fear needs addressing
    It is hugely concerning that community and volunteer groups feel they are being gagged from speaking out against the Government, Labour’s Community and Voluntary Sector Spokesperson Louisa Wall says.  A Victoria University survey of 93 sector groups has found 50...
    Labour
  • Climate of fear needs addressing
    It is hugely concerning that community and volunteer groups feel they are being gagged from speaking out against the Government, Labour’s Community and Voluntary Sector Spokesperson Louisa Wall says.  A Victoria University survey of 93 sector groups has found 50...
    Labour
  • Mandatory code of conduct needed for supermarkets
    Labour has drafted legislation to establish a mandatory code of conduct for supermarkets to ensure New Zealand suppliers are not affected by anti-competitive behaviour. “Even though the Commerce Commission found no technical breaches of the law through some of Countdown’s...
    Labour
  • Mandatory code of conduct needed for supermarkets
    Labour has drafted legislation to establish a mandatory code of conduct for supermarkets to ensure New Zealand suppliers are not affected by anti-competitive behaviour. “Even though the Commerce Commission found no technical breaches of the law through some of Countdown’s...
    Labour
  • National softening public up for 7th successive deficit
    Finance Minister Bill English is softening the public up for an announcement that National is going to fail in even its very limited goal of achieving a budget surplus, the Green Party said today."No finance minister in a generation has...
    Greens
  • National softening public up for 7th successive deficit
    Finance Minister Bill English is softening the public up for an announcement that National is going to fail in even its very limited goal of achieving a budget surplus, the Green Party said today."No finance minister in a generation has...
    Greens
  • The Daily Blog Breakfast Club Ep 2.
    TDB Video: The Daily Blog Breakfast Club, Live from Verona Cafe on K-Rd, Auckland – a weekly current affairs show with TDB Editor Martyn Bradbury. This week Activist and blogger Jessie Hume and political commentator Keith Locke. This Week: Topic...
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  • When the teflon is stripped away…
    . . To re-cap something I wrote on 13 September, regarding a hard-hitting interview between “The Nation’s” Lisa Owen and John Key; For possibly the first time since Stephen Sackur interviewed Key on Hard Talk in May, 2011, this [...
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  • My Select Committee submission against the “terrorist fighters” bill
    This morning I gave this “oral submission” to the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee opposing the Countering Terrorist Fighters Bill.  It is a pity only Greens are against the Bill. It’s a pleasure to be able to talk to...
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  • Pixies in the Garden? Making money
    In 2009, John Key said “there aren’t little pixies at the bottom of the garden printing cash” (John Armstrong, Colin Espiner). He was wrong of course. Just about every country has its own pixie-in-chief, though not at the bottom of the...
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  • AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL PRESS RELEASE – Government must allow further scrut...
    As the New Zealand government seeks to rush new through new anti-terror legislation, Amnesty International is raising grave concerns over the speed at which the Bill is being rushed through Parliament and is calling for an extension to the consultation...
    The Daily Blog
  • Tension inside the Blue Tent – questions that should be asked
    With Andrew Little on fire taking a straight shooting no crap approach to Key’s dead eyed duplicity, the tensions inside the Blue Tent of National are at risk of erupting again. When the TeamKey brand falters, National’s factions sharpen their knives....
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  • FiveAA Australia: Is NZ’s PM a Liar? + Kim Dotcom Says He’s Broke
    5AA’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning.In this week’s Across The Ditch bulletin on FiveAA.com.au Selwyn Manning and Peter Godfrey discuss how allegations of dirty politics continue to dog the Prime Minister John Key’s third term in government. Also, internet tycoon...
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  • Cam’s ‘Slightly Left of Centre’ sock puppet threatens Key in public
    What did Judith Collins say about payback? Looks like Slater has taken that lesson to heart as he uses his sock puppet over at Slightly Left of Centre to drop threats and hints that he has recorded conversations with Key that has...
    The Daily Blog
  • Justice System Changes Must Ensure No More Roastings In Court
    On Monday there was good news for rape survivors and this blog was supposed to be about the success of our advocacy, and it is about that success, but today’s events have brought into stark focus the real-world importance of...
    The Daily Blog
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Key Post Electio...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, Key Post Election...
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  • Top 5 Texts from Cam to Key
    So Cam texted Key before the report came out despite Key claiming no contact? Top 5 Texts from Cam to Key 5 – I still have all the photos 4 – Yes my shapeshifting Lizard Master Overlord 3 – Max isn’t talking to...
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  • Hold on – did NZ just have a coup?
    Ummmmm. Wait a minute here. Just so that we all understand what’s been revealed. The Prime Minister’s Office used the Secret Intelligence Service to falsify classified information to smear the Leader of the Opposition via a far right hate blogger...
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  • Sue Bradford speaking tour
          With the generous support of the Hobgoblin Network and several other donors, I’m going to be speaking soon at four meetings around the country: ‘A major left wing think tank?  Is it time for a transformational left...
    The Daily Blog
  • Sue Bradford speaking tour
          With the generous support of the Hobgoblin Network and several other donors, I’m going to be speaking soon at four meetings around the country: ‘A major left wing think tank?  Is it time for a transformational left...
    The Daily Blog
  • Sue Bradford speaking tour
          With the generous support of the Hobgoblin Network and several other donors, I’m going to be speaking soon at four meetings around the country: ‘A major left wing think tank?  Is it time for a transformational left...
    The Daily Blog
  • Why Key must resign
    Remember when John Armstrong from the NZ Herald called for the resignation of David Cunliffe because Cunliffe couldn’t remember an 11 year old letter in reference to a $100 000 bottle of wine that never existed? Why isn’t the Herald now...
    The Daily Blog
  • Why Key must resign
    Remember when John Armstrong from the NZ Herald called for the resignation of David Cunliffe because Cunliffe couldn’t remember an 11 year old letter in reference to a $100 000 bottle of wine that never existed? Why isn’t the Herald now...
    The Daily Blog
  • Why Key must resign
    Remember when John Armstrong from the NZ Herald called for the resignation of David Cunliffe because Cunliffe couldn’t remember an 11 year old letter in reference to a $100 000 bottle of wine that never existed? Why isn’t the Herald now...
    The Daily Blog
  • Why the Judith Collins report is a whitewash
    “I am not a Monster”, hissed Judith Collins The report into Collins is a whitewash. The difference between an independent inquiry like the IGIS report that connected the PMs Office with using edited Secret Intelligence Service information to smear a...
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  • Why the Judith Collins report is a whitewash
    “I am not a Monster”, hissed Judith Collins The report into Collins is a whitewash. The difference between an independent inquiry like the IGIS report that connected the PMs Office with using edited Secret Intelligence Service information to smear a...
    The Daily Blog
  • Why the Judith Collins report is a whitewash
    “I am not a Monster”, hissed Judith Collins The report into Collins is a whitewash. The difference between an independent inquiry like the IGIS report that connected the PMs Office with using edited Secret Intelligence Service information to smear a...
    The Daily Blog
  • Seasons Greetings from Ferguson
    Seasons Greetings from Ferguson...
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  • Seasons Greetings from Ferguson
    Seasons Greetings from Ferguson...
    The Daily Blog
  • Seasons Greetings from Ferguson
    Seasons Greetings from Ferguson...
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  • Using State Spies to attack political opponents – why the SIS are gaining...
    National will only be able to get away with what is being revealed by the IGIS report into the Secret Intelligence Service if we, the people of NZ, let them. And. We. Should. Not. Let. Them. State spies editing intelligence to...
    The Daily Blog
  • Using State Spies to attack political opponents – why the SIS are gaining...
    National will only be able to get away with what is being revealed by the IGIS report into the Secret Intelligence Service if we, the people of NZ, let them. And. We. Should. Not. Let. Them. State spies editing intelligence to...
    The Daily Blog
  • Using State Spies to attack political opponents – why the SIS are gaining...
    National will only be able to get away with what is being revealed by the IGIS report into the Secret Intelligence Service if we, the people of NZ, let them. And. We. Should. Not. Let. Them. State spies editing intelligence to...
    The Daily Blog
  • Anti-Choice Myth-Busting
    Voice for Life issued a press release last week claiming that those of us campaigning for the decriminalisation of abortion in NZ are, among other things, using Nazi propaganda tactics (sigh…) to lie to you about the illegal status of abortion...
    The Daily Blog
  • Anti-Choice Myth-Busting
    Voice for Life issued a press release last week claiming that those of us campaigning for the decriminalisation of abortion in NZ are, among other things, using Nazi propaganda tactics (sigh…) to lie to you about the illegal status of abortion...
    The Daily Blog
  • Anti-Choice Myth-Busting
    Voice for Life issued a press release last week claiming that those of us campaigning for the decriminalisation of abortion in NZ are, among other things, using Nazi propaganda tactics (sigh…) to lie to you about the illegal status of abortion...
    The Daily Blog
  • Judith Collins – the Gift that keeps Giving to the Opposition?
    . . From a news report; Ms Collins resigned before the election after being accused of working with the Whale Oil blog after emails were released suggesting she was “gunning” for former director of the Serious Fraud Office, Adam Feeley,...
    The Daily Blog
  • Judith Collins – the Gift that keeps Giving to the Opposition?
    . . From a news report; Ms Collins resigned before the election after being accused of working with the Whale Oil blog after emails were released suggesting she was “gunning” for former director of the Serious Fraud Office, Adam Feeley,...
    The Daily Blog
  • Judith Collins – the Gift that keeps Giving to the Opposition?
    . . From a news report; Ms Collins resigned before the election after being accused of working with the Whale Oil blog after emails were released suggesting she was “gunning” for former director of the Serious Fraud Office, Adam Feeley,...
    The Daily Blog
  • Annette King? Annette King?? Surely not Annette King!
    I’m not often surprised at the goings on in the Labour Party but I was gobsmacked to see Andrew Little has appointed Annette King as Deputy Leader of the parliamentary Labour Party. I had idly assumed the role would go to Adhern...
    The Daily Blog
  • Annette King? Annette King?? Surely not Annette King!
    I’m not often surprised at the goings on in the Labour Party but I was gobsmacked to see Andrew Little has appointed Annette King as Deputy Leader of the parliamentary Labour Party. I had idly assumed the role would go to Adhern...
    The Daily Blog
  • Annette King? Annette King?? Surely not Annette King!
    I’m not often surprised at the goings on in the Labour Party but I was gobsmacked to see Andrew Little has appointed Annette King as Deputy Leader of the parliamentary Labour Party. I had idly assumed the role would go to Adhern...
    The Daily Blog
  • New Shadow Cabinet – Little does more in 6 days than Goff, Shearer & ...
    New Zealanders do not respect intelligence, they respect confidence. Cunliffe beat Key in the debates, but it didn’t matter because NZers don’t respect the debate, they respect the tone. Our anti-intellecuatlism runs deeper than most with our reverse-egalitarianism. The chip...
    The Daily Blog
  • New Shadow Cabinet – Little does more in 6 days than Goff, Shearer & ...
    New Zealanders do not respect intelligence, they respect confidence. Cunliffe beat Key in the debates, but it didn’t matter because NZers don’t respect the debate, they respect the tone. Our anti-intellecuatlism runs deeper than most with our reverse-egalitarianism. The chip...
    The Daily Blog
  • New Shadow Cabinet – Little does more in 6 days than Goff, Shearer & ...
    New Zealanders do not respect intelligence, they respect confidence. Cunliffe beat Key in the debates, but it didn’t matter because NZers don’t respect the debate, they respect the tone. Our anti-intellecuatlism runs deeper than most with our reverse-egalitarianism. The chip...
    The Daily Blog
  • This weeks Waatea news column – The myths white people tell themselves
      This weeks Waatea news column – The myths white people tell themselves...
    The Daily Blog
  • This weeks Waatea news column – The myths white people tell themselves
      This weeks Waatea news column – The myths white people tell themselves...
    The Daily Blog
  • This weeks Waatea news column – The myths white people tell themselves
      This weeks Waatea news column – The myths white people tell themselves...
    The Daily Blog
  • The irony of backlash to petrol stations charging workers for stolen petrol
    You have to laugh at NZers sometimes. you really do. The outrage that has been sparked by news that workers at petrol stations are charged for stolen petrol is one of those perfect examples of a delicious irony most NZers...
    The Daily Blog
  • The irony of backlash to petrol stations charging workers for stolen petrol
    You have to laugh at NZers sometimes. you really do. The outrage that has been sparked by news that workers at petrol stations are charged for stolen petrol is one of those perfect examples of a delicious irony most NZers...
    The Daily Blog
  • The irony of backlash to petrol stations charging workers for stolen petrol
    You have to laugh at NZers sometimes. you really do. The outrage that has been sparked by news that workers at petrol stations are charged for stolen petrol is one of those perfect examples of a delicious irony most NZers...
    The Daily Blog
  • A Dishonest “Countering Terrorist Fighters Bill”
    Wouldn’t you think a Countering Terrorist Fighters Bill would actually mention “terrorist fighters” in its text? The Bill, as released yesterday, does not. It’s simply another generalised counter-terrorism exercise giving extra surveillance powers to the Security Intelligence Service and enabling...
    The Daily Blog
  • A Dishonest “Countering Terrorist Fighters Bill”
    Wouldn’t you think a Countering Terrorist Fighters Bill would actually mention “terrorist fighters” in its text? The Bill, as released yesterday, does not. It’s simply another generalised counter-terrorism exercise giving extra surveillance powers to the Security Intelligence Service and enabling...
    The Daily Blog
  • A Dishonest “Countering Terrorist Fighters Bill”
    Wouldn’t you think a Countering Terrorist Fighters Bill would actually mention “terrorist fighters” in its text? The Bill, as released yesterday, does not. It’s simply another generalised counter-terrorism exercise giving extra surveillance powers to the Security Intelligence Service and enabling...
    The Daily Blog
  • How biased are the media? A Patrick Gower case study
    . . . Isn’t it interesting that Patrick Gower – who made his partisan feelings crystal clear on Twitter on 29 May with this extraordinary outburst;  “Lalia Harré – you make me feel sick by how you are rorting MMP...
    The Daily Blog
  • How biased are the media? A Patrick Gower case study
    . . . Isn’t it interesting that Patrick Gower – who made his partisan feelings crystal clear on Twitter on 29 May with this extraordinary outburst;  “Lalia Harré – you make me feel sick by how you are rorting MMP...
    The Daily Blog
  • Q + A 30/11/14: Spying, Family Violence, Texts
    We'll debate why the State needs new powers to spy on Kiwis and the controversial laws that are being rushed through Parliament....
    Scoop politics
  • Arrival of Phillip Smith in New Zealand
    On arrival with his police escort at Auckland Airport tomorrow morning Phillip Smith will be met by other police staff and complete customs and immigration formalities....
    Scoop politics
  • UNICEF Calls on NZ Youth to Apply for Youth Ambassador Roles
    UNICEF NZ Calls on NZ Youth to Apply for Youth Ambassador Roles UNICEF NZ has once again launched its nationwide search for six new Youth Ambassadors and is calling on enthusiastic young people to apply before Friday, 12 December 2014....
    Scoop politics
  • Kiwifruit Claim Filed in High Court in Wellington
    The Kiwifruit Claim’s statement of claim has been filed in the High Court in Wellington this afternoon....
    Scoop politics
  • Judgment: John Banks Dotcom Donation Appeal
    A The application to adduce the evidence of Messrs Schaeffer and Karnes is granted. B The application to adduce evidence of Mr Dotcom’s driving conviction is declined. C The appeal is allowed. D The conviction is set aside and a...
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  • Doctors support call for independent health assessment
    Senior doctors and dentists are formally throwing their weight behind growing calls for a formal independent health assessment of the Trans Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA). A recommendation about the TPPA was put to 134 public hospital specialists...
    Scoop politics
  • Korero Mai Ki Ahau: Saturday 29 & Sunday 30 November 2014
    Broadcast on Waatea 603AM Saturday 12.00 - 12.30pm Sunday 12.00 - 12.30pm Both shows repeated 5.00pm – 6.00pm On Sunday Saturday 29 November 2014 | The new Minister for Maori Development is taking a fresh look at the Te Reo...
    Scoop politics
  • Anti-speeding campaign based on phony science
    Ticketing ordinary motorists will have no effect on the groups who cause most road deaths, says the car review website dogandlemon.com ....
    Scoop politics
  • Human Rights lawyers’ concerns over Terrorist Fighters Bill
    The Countering Terrorist Fighters Legislation Bill will dramatically erode human rights and civil liberties if passed in its current form, said the Human Rights Lawyer’s Association Aotearoa New Zealand (HRLA)....
    Scoop politics
  • Privacy Commissioner’s naming policy
    Following a period of public consultation, the Privacy Commissioner is implementing a new policy on naming agencies that are in breach of the Privacy Act. The change takes effect on 1 December 2014....
    Scoop politics
  • Need for whole-of-government approach to family violence
    The Public Service Association (PSA) says The People’s Blueprint report by the Glenn Inquiry makes a strong case for a whole-of-government approach to combatting family violence, and highlights some of the ways we could do things better....
    Scoop politics
  • Stop Fracking in Our Big Blue Backyard – Frack Free Kapiti
    Evidence given at the EPA hearing of hydraulic fracturing (fracking) at sea blows the industry accepted line that fracking is not happening offshore in New Zealand right out of the water....
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  • Solidarity with West Papua on 1 December
    Below are the details of the solidarity events in Aotearoa New Zealand to mark West Papua Independence Day, 1 December - there are four events this year: one in Christchurch, one in Wellington and two in Auckland. If you are...
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  • No charges laid over piggeries investigations
    No charges laid over piggeries investigations 28 November 2014 The Ministry for Primary Industries did not have sufficient evidence to lay charges following two animal welfare investigations into incidents at piggeries earlier this year. The investigations...
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  • Deep Sea Drilling in Rising Seas
    The Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment's report on the effects of rising sea levels and climate change adds another argument against this Government's expansion of fossil fuel exploration....
    Scoop politics
  • Slower population growth in the long term
    New Zealand's population will likely grow by 1.4–1.8 percent a year during 2014–16, but growth will be lower in the long term, Statistics New Zealand said today....
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  • Big Buddy on the Glenn Inquiry People’s Blueprint
    November 28, 2014 The inclusion of robust screening as a tool to prevent child abuse, highlighted in the Glenn Inquiry’s People’s Blueprint, is welcomed by Big Buddy CEO Richard Aston. “It’s heartening to see this high-calibre report come out...
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  • People’s Blueprint for tackling Family Violence
    The recently Dunedin Collaboration Against Family Violence (DCAFV) is pleased to support the fundamental changes in the way our legal system deals with family violence that the report calls for. We need to do more to support victims, and ensure...
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  • People’s Blueprint – Both Good News and a Wake-Up Call
    The Patron of the Glenn Inquiry, Dame Catherine Tizard, says there is some good news in The People’s Blueprint, after the shocking picture painted six months ago in The People’s Report....
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  • Glenn Inquiry Funder Keeps His Promise
    The founder and funder of the Glenn Inquiry, Sir Owen Glenn, said today he has kept the promise he made when he set up the independent inquiry in 2012. “I set up the Glenn Inquiry because it was clear to...
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  • Support for Blue Print call for a stand-alone agency
    Human Rights Commissioner lead on family violence, Dr Jackie Blue welcomes the Glenn Inquiry, ‘The People’s Blue Print’, which places at its heart that being safe and free from violence is a fundamental human right....
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  • People’s Blueprint Offers Solutions to Family Violence
    New Zealand has a fresh opportunity to reduce child abuse and family violence and save and restore lives under a powerful new model for combating the problem proposed by the Glenn Inquiry....
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  • Submission: Countering Terrorist Fighters Legislation Bill
    My three key areas of concern relate to: • The duration of visual surveillance warrants; • The controls around warrantless surveillance powers; • Clarifying the continuation of controls around access to Passenger Name Record (PNR) data under...
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  • The case is clear for climate action that supports health
    The need for rapid action on climate change in New Zealand in order to protect health is clear, according to a group of climate and health experts. Countries elsewhere in the world are already taking significant action, while New Zealand...
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  • EDUCANZ Debate Ignores Teachers
    The legislation for the creation of the new EDUCANZ to replace the former Teachers’ Council body is now undergoing its second reading. Without warning, it was promoted to the top the queue this week....
    Scoop politics
  • Phillip Smith en-route back to New Zealand.
    Police confirm that Phillip Smith has been deported from Brazil and is en-route back to New Zealand....
    Scoop politics
  • Scaremongering and Showing Contempt for Democracy
    The government has been accused of fabricating an increased risk to New Zealand security to justify new invasive powers in the Countering Terrorist Fighters Legislation Bill. And its decision to allow just 48 hours for public submissions on the Bill...
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  • Legislation “a travesty of democratic process”
    Peace Movement Aotearoa today called on the government to put the Countering Terrorist Fighters Legislation Bill on hold - pending a comprehensive review of existing legislation - in a written submission to the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Select Committee,...
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  • Bill needs amending to better protect human rights
    The Human Rights Commission submission to the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee this afternoon on the Countering Terrorist Fighters Bill makes specific recommendations relating to passport denial; increasing safeguards around visual...
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  • NZ’s gender equality issues in international forum
    New Zealand faces similar gender equality issues and opportunities to those of its neighbouring countries, according to the latest international conference on women’s empowerment....
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  • Countering human trafficking is an ongoing challenge for NZ
    At first glance, it is difficult to believe that human trafficking is an offence that is taking place in New Zealand. It is a harsh reminder that the rule of law sometimes does not reach far enough....
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  • Government must allow further scrutiny of bill
    As the New Zealand government seeks to rush new through new anti-terror legislation, Amnesty International is raising grave concerns over the speed at which the Bill is being rushed through Parliament and is calling for an extension to the consultation...
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  • Calling on anti-violence activists to step up
    Māori Party co-leaders believe every individual, whānau, hapū and iwi can help stop the high level of family violence that exists in our country....
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  • More effective social services inquiry update Nov 2014
    The Productivity Commission’s More effective social services inquiry aims to shed light on how commissioning and contracting influence the quality and effectiveness of social services, and to suggest actions government agencies and others could take...
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  • Keith Locke presentation on Countering Foreign Fighters Bill
    It’s a pleasure to be able to talk to members of Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Select Committee again, and remember my 12 years on your committee. However, I don’t wish my submission today to be taken as endorsement of...
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  • Significant issues for NZ in sea level rise report
    Local Government New Zealand (LGNZ) has recognised findings of Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment Dr Jan Wright’s report released today on the impact of rising seas as significant for coastal areas of New Zealand, aligning well with work the...
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  • White Ribbon Campaign Shocked at Fatal Stabbing
    The White Ribbon Campaign extends its condolences to the family of a women fatally stabbed in Auckland's North Shore....
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  • One Plan signing is “historic moment” for the environment
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