Written By: - Date published: 1:46 pm, December 19th, 2007 - 57 comments
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The National Party have reverted to type.
They’re back to stoking the politics of fear and division.
Anyone who thought that things might be different under Key were today proved wrong when David Farrar, Kiwiblog author and National Party HQ staffer, launched a billboard campaign attacking Helen Clark, Winston Peters and Peter Dunne – likening them to a number of infamous dictators.
The tasteless billboards are reminiscent of the Iwi/Kiwi ones run by Brash and National at the last election.
The Free Speech Coalition is little more than a National Party front, and it’s well known that Farrar has been working on this project during his employment at National Party HQ.
John Key’s been keen to try to keep himself clean. I wonder how he feels about all the mud now being thrown by Farrar. I wouldn’t be surprised if this comes back to bite National.
UPDATE: In fact one of the billboards has already been pulled. It was erected on a school, who demanded that it be removed.
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So the unions run by Jill Ovens and Andrew Little are by Tane’s definition Labour fronts?
No, because between them they have nearly 70,000 members. They’re mass grassroots organisations.
KtB is National Party activists like Davey and Whaleoil, a couple of dozen nutters from the Kiwiblog right and the usual smattering of hollow men like Don Brash and Roger Kerr. It looks like a front group, it has the membership of a front group and it acts like a front group. My guess is it’s a front group.
I look forward to Tane’s condemnation of Sam’s vandalism.
Billy, I know it’s hard seeing the right fuck up like this, but plese stop trying to divert the thread with this nonsense.
I’ve said repeatedly that I oppose Wikipedia vandalism and have extended my sympathy to DPF for what happened. Is it too much to do some basic research before you start flinging mud at me?
Wonder if the public want to know about the kind of things the co-founder of this group gets up to.
Like photo shopping a 15 year old boys head onto gay porn?
I was very quiet about it – but now that they start to compare our leaders to the leaders/dictators of corrupt countries I feel so empowered to expose Cameron Slater, who of course is working with David for the National party.
“Having said that, I don’t support Wikipedia vandalism and can see why David was upset”
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/12/the_wikipedia_vandal.html#comment-376179
Cf
“Absolute fucking filth. You should be ashamed of yourself David.”
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/12/some_billboards_to_enjoy.html#comment-384778
You’re right Tane. Complete consistency there.
Billy, if you can’t see the difference between a childish and unfortunate piece of vandalism on a Wikipedia page and a divisive, high profile billboard campaign comparing political leaders to some of the world’s worst dictators then I’m not sure I can help you.
Neither are great and I’ve condemned both, but I think you need to get some perspective on this one.
And the issue is hardly Wikipedia vandalism (which, of course, is not to be condoned). Either you think it is OK to compare people a very long way away from dictators to dictators, or you don’t. Once you have decided on which side of that line you fall, you either consider it all as acceptable (like Robinsod) or none of it.
“childish and unfortunate piece of vandalism”
Linking DPF with Nazis?
You bunch of socialists are beyond salvation.
What if is DPF’s or someone else’s money and he/she wants to spend it that way? What business is of yours?
You will never understand the meaning of freedom and not to meddle/interfere in the lives of others.
Get lost.
Oh my god James, just go to the media already and “expose” Cam!
I can write the email they are going send you. It goes alittle something like this:
Dear Mr Sleep,
HAHAHAHAHA!
Regards,
A. Journalist
(Captcha words = satisfactory Urine! Ye gods!!:D)
He linked DPF with the National Front. I think that’s pretty shit and I condemned it. If he’d put up billboards comparing DPF to Hitler I’d have suggested he take them down. I’m not sure what you’re trying to get at here, other than to try and distract from the fact that DPF’s latest campaign is absolutely vile.
You can harp on all day about whether you think I have done enough to condemn someone who I don’t even know for something that had nothing to do with me, but you’re grasping mate. The fact is this campaign stinks something rotten and DPF and the National Party need to be called on it.
Tane said “The fact is this campaign stinks something rotten and DPF and the National Party need to be called on it.”
Why? Just because the campaign is not pro-Labour and attacks the people you love and adore?
Let democracy play its role, and, more important, let people determine what they want to see, publish, print and broadcast.
This is not the Democratic Republic of New Zealand, yet.
Billy
If someone put up some billboards saying DPF was a Nazi, you’d have some reason to expect a perfectly consistent response.
As it is, someone made a change in a link on his wikipedia page so that if someone followed that link they would end up at the National Front site. Is that how it went? Tane can defend himself, but he has said he disagrees with both things, the more serious one, more forcefully.
Are you busy on KB accusing people of hypocrisy if they;
1, agreed with DPF’s response to that vandalism,
but are
2, ok with the billboards?
Or are you just being a dick because a bunch of people on your side of the fence have confused the streets of our fine land with a kiwiblog comment section, and their nuttiness is on full display?
Pascal’s Bookie,
In answer to your question: I am trying to be a dick.
What the fuck do you think?
I think you’re doing a very good job
Burn! Jees, Billy you walked into that.
“I am trying to be a dick.”
Sorry, I was using sarcasm. I was not really trying to be a dick. At all.
*sigh* This is why we need to EFB. To stop fools with money trying to buy opinion and elections. The amount of bullshit going around about the EFB is staggering.
I was not really trying to be a dick
Pussy then?
>djp – its being pulled because its political – that’s just a poor headline – clue: read the article, don’t make conclusions from headlines
Thanks for that Sam but the article says exactly the same thing:
“The billboard, which criticises legislation passed yesterday limiting what can be spent on political advertising, was deemed to be ‘political’ and therefore not allowed to be displayed on school grounds.”
I read the headline *and* the article…. what did you read???
>its well-documented that the leaders of the FSC are national operatives, that makes it a national operation.
Sam Dixon: care to let the rest of us in on this well documented evidence?
“*sigh* This is why we need to EFB. To stop fools with money trying to buy opinion and elections.”
Will it stop the CTU or EPMU? The opinion of such dim tiger.
“No, because between them they have nearly 70,000 members. They’re mass grassroots organisations.”
With annual revenues that measure in the 10s of millions of dollars. How much are we talking about here again? Under $20,000.
Pity that the Auckland council is no longer stacked with billboard-hating “clean up the city” campaigner’s eh boys?
Here’s an idea – why don’t the standardistas get some funding together and erect some billboards of their own?
To Seamonkey Madness: I do not believe the media in New Zealand are anywhere near as tolerant of child pornography as you seem to believe they are.