Comments on: Same song? You decide.

By: The definition of irony at The Standard 2.01

The definition of irony at The Standard 2.01 — Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:56:20 +0000

[...] [Creaky Boards' song vs Coldplay's] [John Key DVD soundtrack vs 'Clocks'] [...]

By: Matthew Pilott

Matthew Pilott — Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:21:12 +0000

“ If some band did a song that sounded like “Happy birthday to you” that actually became extremely popular, and a politician gave ME the job of writing and recording something similar, I would have no hesitation in doing it”

I dislike Coldplay and that made me laugh.

Sorry for such a late reply to you, but –

Still, my point is it’s more the principle – the spirit if not the letter of the law, and National wasn’t left with any choice, especially since they’d made their intent obvious by using the song at their conference. Different I know – but it was sure meant to sound like it…

I also noted that if it was trying to sound like Clocks (to the uneducated or no) then the DVD could be in breach of the fairtrading act!

By: Graciousness as spin « KiwiBlogBlog

Graciousness as spin « KiwiBlogBlog — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:13:19 +0000

[...] by Mardy earlier, and Davey is gracious enough to give kudos to our mates at the Standard for their work in exposing this goof. (No direct mention of our own Wat’s part in it or the Sprout’s [...]

By: PhilBest

PhilBest — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:27:46 +0000

outofbed: you DO have a sense of humour, and the “big spaghetti in the sky” site did make me chuckle too, but your attitude is unfortunately typical of that of leftists to religious believers.(So much for multiculturalism and tolerance). I note that not one of the regular contributors has raised his hand to say “hey, I’m a bible-believing Christian (or whatever)”.

By: PhilBest

PhilBest — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 06:05:48 +0000

Only just got around to looking at this again, Matthew Pilott. Only too glad to respond.

MY favourite song would be distinctive enough that if someone ripped it off, it would be obvious. If some band did a song that sounded like “Happy birthday to you” that actually became extremely popular, and a politician gave ME the job of writing and recording something similar, I would have no hesitation in doing it, I would regard it as “fair game” and would be confident that no copyright lawyer could touch me.

I note that I am not the only music buff to have made this argument, but we are obviously outnumbered on the politics blogs by people with no interest in music. That goes for Farrar too. Tane is right, the man is only too N-i-i-i-i-ce. No leftwing blogger would fold so easily. Here’s what I just posted on Farrarblog:

# PhilBest Says:
December 3rd, 2007 at 6:56 pm

Fa Pete’s sake Farrar, redbaiter and me are right about you and the Nats folding at the first sign of a fight. Haven’t you been READING the posts from all the guys who know ANYTHING ABOUT MUSIC? I told Tane at the Standard today that I was coming to the conclusion that lefties were Musical dumbarses as well as everything else I already thought of them. Now I suspect that that applies to ALL political stuffed shirts whatever the stripe. READ MY POSTS ON YOUR EARLIER THREADS ON THIS ISSUE, WIMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Matthew Pilott

Matthew Pilott — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 03:06:12 +0000

Insolent Prick,

Are you going to ask PhilBest if he has a response to my question above?

Seeing as you did the same to Daveo… I thought you might be being the enforcer here, lift your game, boy!

By: the sprout

the sprout — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:10:59 +0000

oh and as for the original thread topic, the fact that so many people have assumed it’s a coldpaly song is precisely why a copyright case would see National pinged.

By: Robinsod

Robinsod — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:10:04 +0000

Baen – you’re back! Thank god, we’ve all got a little nasty while you’ve been away. Please spread your calming influence here. I’ll try to be more civil if it helps…

By: the sprout

the sprout — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:08:35 +0000

that wasn’t entirely fair Beany, when jonkey played volleyball wit da bros, he did un-tuck his Armani shirt. certainly had me fooled he was just a regular guy.
just like when he went on that fake spontaneous tour with Aroha from McGehan Close, who’s mum and nana wewre both patients of Dr Jaqui Blue, and who jonkey just happened to spontaneously bump into.
hmm come to think of it, i understand Aroha’s mum has since got a spontaneous job in jonkey’s electorate office.

By: the bean

the bean — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:07:14 +0000

na the writers are scabs DUH

By: The Double Standard

The Double Standard — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 01:04:22 +0000

Hey Bean, are your writers on strike too?

By: the bean

the bean — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:46:19 +0000

awww thanks billy, you think my comment is soooo good it must have taken me four and a half days to write. *blush*

By: Billy

Billy — Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:08:45 +0000

Same post? You decide.

http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=786#comments
http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=782#comments

Bean, have you been working on that since Thursday?

By: the bean

the bean — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:55:20 +0000

Diary of a song search

Day one: (some time before National Party conference, we struggle to remember policy etc so actual dates are fucked)

Murray: hey John, now you are leader of our wonderful party you get to make the REALLY tough decisions. So what song do you want them to play when you come running downs the aisle of the most expensive hotel in town, trying to pretend you are a mainstream man of the people whilst surrounded by a crowd of bald, middle aged rich whities in suits?

John: jeeze muzza, that is a tough one! Do I have to make this decision? It took me all that time to decide what suit to wear when I played volleyball with all those darkies. I dunno if I should be trusted with this choice.

Murray: ok john, I have the perfect solution

John: yes muzza.

Murray: we will put it on your website and let other people decide. That way we can’t be accused of supporting it or being against it- the people will have chosen. We also thought we might try this later with any possible “policy”. http://www.johnkey.co.nz/index.php?/archives/174-VIDEO-Journal-14-Suggest-a-theme-song!.html

John: shit that is a good idea muzza, lucky you are the brains of this outfit

Muzza: outfit? Don’t talk fucking clothes again john, people will think you are vacuous.

Day Six:

John (calls): Bronaghldkiweur! How do I work my webpage honey bunch?

Oooo look coldplay clocks as a suggestion! I like them. Their songs really speak to my heart and I wanted to name my kid “apple”

(points at picture of Chris martin beside desk and squeals) twins!

Day of National Party conference:

John (waltzing down the aisle of conference singing): Am I part of the cure or am I part of the disease (stops finger to lips) ooooooo that is like sooooo deep and stuff.

Day 10: National Party future planning day

Murray: so John, what kind of future do you want for the National party? Plans? Ideas? Policy

John: Coldplay, “Clocks”

Murray: no, no John we need policy. Like how will we run the country etc whatever

John: I WANT CLOCKS!!!!

Murray: Fuck Gerry, he is going a bit purple. We better get him that song before he lies on the floor and kicks

Gerry: but what about copyright Murray?

Murray: fuck that Gerry, NZers are dumb enough to fall for Brash’s orewa speech. I bet they don’t even know what copyright is. Change a couple of notes and they will be none the wiser. Kind of like what we are doing with this policy document I dredged up titled “Ruth’s ten ways to screw NZ”

By: Insolent Prick

Insolent Prick — Sun, 02 Dec 2007 23:53:45 +0000

Daveo,

Have you got any response to Phil Best’s comments above?