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Scoop and Whaleoil, a tale of two websites

Written By: - Date published: 6:50 am, January 18th, 2014 - 134 comments
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Recent events have refocussed attention on new media and how political blogsites relate to conventional concepts of media.  And the response by two different websites highlights some very interesting issues.

Over at Scoop former chief reporter Alaistair Thompson has either resigned or taken a sabbatical so that he can become involved in Kim Dotcom’s Internet party.  The precise terms of his leave will need to be resolved.

Fellow Scooper Gordon Campbell has expressed sadness if it is a resignation and correctly describes Scoop as being “the flagship for alternative journalism in New Zealand for nearly 15 years”.

Campbell notes that Scoop has struggled financially.  This appears to be a recurring theme for media, especially alternative media, in New Zealand.  The market is just too small for most media to be profitable.

Campbell then says this:

For those of us connected with Scoop who watched the debacle unfold yesterday – and like everyone else, we did so by reading about it online – the details were alarming. It is painful to draw attention to them because Al’s entrepreneurial drive has been essential to sustaining Scoop as a forum of ideas ; but equally, it is impossible to condone a media outlet signing up the domain name of a political party, while reporting on political events. Al was an associate member of the press gallery. He also had an administrative role with Scoop that required him to generate new business for the site. Some hats that would be shared around in a traditional news organisation were worn by Al alone: such are the economic realities of Web publishing. These multiple roles always had the potential for conflicts of interest in both the political and business coverage.

For a news outlet however, a political client is not just another business client. Especially in an election year, any potential conflicts had to be identified and dealt with beforehand in a way that maintained the necessary distance. Instead, the boundaries in this case were actively blurred.

He concludes that the registration of the domain name for the Internet Party was indefensible and Thompson had no choice but to go.

Cameron Slater broke the news with his usual class.  He stated that Scoop was no longer independent and said that both Martyn Bradbury and Alastair Thompson have “many questions to answer about their blurring the lines between media and political activism in such and egregious and underhanded way.” (sp)

I laughed when I read this.  Slater’s blog is full of the most extreme right wing political views.  There are various allegations about how he received funds to promote candidates seeking selection for National Party Electorates and there is that defamation suit commenced by Matthew Blomfield against Slater where he has alleged Slater published blog posts at the behest of a third party for money.

Interestingly Slater is off to the High Court next month to try and establish that his blogsite is media for the purposes of protecting the confidentiality of his sources.  As a matter of legal interpretation I thought that his argument had merit and I was and am worried about the effect of the precedent.  But the irony is strong.  Slater has trampled on any concept of a blog site being politically neutral and it is rather rich for him to criticise Thompson and Bradbury for doing the same.

But this does raise interesting issues on the funding of blogs.  It is clear that Kiwiblog and Whaleoil are well funded and resourced.  Bradbury has been open about the funding for the Daily Blog.  There are various conspiracies about how the Standard is funded by the copious amounts of money that the Labour Party and the Trade Union movement have spare and I wish this was true … The Standard is IMHO the product of a group of dedicated amateurs and if payments are being made then I want to know what is happening to my share!  And this is the preferable model in many respects.

It is fascinating how Dotcom’s money is causing havoc everywhere it is spent.  He has previously caused havoc amongst the ranks of ACT and National through his donation to Banks and now has caused significant disruption to the proudly independent Scoop media organisation.

In an ideal world ordinary people would be paid sufficiently well and would have sufficient spare time that they could meet and organise and fundraise and discuss politics so that the offer of easy money was something that could be declined.  And independent media would be properly funded.

134 comments on “Scoop and Whaleoil, a tale of two websites”

  1. Steve Wrathall 1

    “And independent media would be properly funded….” by whom? The govt of the day? That would make them really keen to challenge the statist agenda of their paymasters. Yup.

  2. If Kiwiblog is well funded or resourced, that is news to me.

    It generates a small amount of advertising revenue, which works out at around 10% of a living wage based on the hours I spend on it.

    Kiwiblog receives no income from anyone except for advertisements that are clearly marked as such. Also I don’t receive any money from anyone to spend time on Kiwiblog. In fact I would make much much more money if I didn’t blog.

    • bad12 2.1

      As we are mostly not Parliamentarians here your statement can only be taken at it’s word with the provision of proof…

    • karol 2.2

      And your business that is your livelihood, while also enabling you to be able to afford to spend some unpaid time on Kiwiblog?

      I would also differentiate how the Whale O blog operates from that of Kiwiblog.

      • David Farrar 2.2.1

        I own and direct a market research company. This also takes up a lot of time. Luckily I also have some very good staff who do a lot for me. I am also on a couple of boards. This is all in my disclosure statement.

        • Jackal 2.2.1.1

          May I ask who some of your clients are then that utilize Curia to undertake polling, focus groups and receive communications advice etc? Don’t tell me you’re using that income to directly fund Kiwiblog, which is by all accounts a propaganda tool for the right wing? Wouldn’t that essentially mean those (I presume right wing clients) are resourcing Kiwiblog? Furthermore, how much funding does Curia receive because of the disinformation you publish on Kiwiblog?

          I recall Cameron Slater making similar denials about where his funding comes from just before proof emerged that his opinion can be purchased.

          • David Farrar 2.2.1.1.1

            The disclosure statement lists clients who have publicly said they use Curia. People pay Curia for polls, surveys and focus groups. No one has ever paid Curia or me to blog something (except as a disclosed paid ad) or to blog generally. I was publishing my views online eight years before I set up Curia.

            Having a public profile through blogging has in fact put many potential clients off Curia. I would make much much more money if I did not blog.

            • Jackal 2.2.1.1.1.1

              That is amusing considering the list of those who have openly used your services at Curia, including the National Party, Family First, John Banks, Exceltium (Matthew Hooton), just to name a few idiots, in many cases also receive a large amount of unwarranted promotion by you over at Kiwibog.

              You’re not an independent blogger David Farrar by any stretch of the imagination.

              • Paul

                I don’t mind Farrar not being independent. I just don’t appreciate it when he’s described as a blogger on the corporate media, without revealing his many links to the National Party.
                It is also an indictment of the corporate media that they simply repeat his stories and memes without dealing with the extreme right wing bias to his selection and colouring of news.

        • vto 2.2.1.2

          Political clients pay you money at Curia, which enables you to spend time blogging their politics at Kiwiblog.

          It aint nothing new – it is as old as the hills. That you appear to deny it merely highlights it further.

          Compromised through and through.

        • Awhina McGrath 2.2.1.3

          You are also so right of right, that you admitted signing the referendum multiple times to disrupt democratic process. That is my disclosure.

    • Jackal 2.3

      It seems strange that you’re funding your own blog Farrar. How exactly do you pay for your numerous trips overseas if you’re essentially working for free and full time on a right wing blog site?

    • come on..!..mr farrar..!

      ..we aren’t that stoopid..eh..?

      ..yr propaganda-organ is part of the (if unspoken) package-deal you offer national/the right..

      ..and that is what gets you all of that gummint-money..

      ..you work that trough like a pro…

      ..kiwiblog is unfunded..(yeah..right..)

      ..and i work part-time as the fucken tooth-fairy..eh..?

      ..phillip ure..

      • phillip ure 2.4.1

        and while you are here..mr farrar..

        ..perhaps you could tell us why kiwiblog is so often on the wrong side of history..

        ..eh..?

        ..from yr g.f.c.-denials…all the way through..eh..?

        ..and how about the vile campaigns of benificiary-bashing you have run/fostered/engendered at yr propaganda-organ..and that you have run since..oh..!..forever..!..?

        ..you are like new zealands’ goebbels..farrar..(and just fuck off..!..godwin..!..with yr stupid rule..)

        ..the parallels are potent..

        ..you have fostered (very successful) campaigns of hatred/stigmatising against the weakest/poorest/sickest new zealanders..

        .(who can forget ‘tania heke’..eh..?..that fake-(maori of course..eh..?)..benificiary-‘bludger’ you ‘featured on yr blog..

        ..with those made up tales of ‘tania’ and her other bludging benificary-mates..

        ..sitting on the deck..drinking..waiting for the takeaway pizzas to arrive..and laughing at their ‘mug’ neighbours..as they drove off to work..

        ..and that was all lies/made-up..wasn’t it farrar..?

        ..now you tell me/us how that is any different from the anti-semitic-poison goebbels flooded germany with..eh..?

        ..with the same intention..to create a scapegoat..

        ..then there is yr boast of how you stood at the shoulder of richardson going ‘cut more..!..cut more..!)..as she wrote her mother-of-all-budgets..eh..?..

        ..there is nobody in new zealands’ history who has been more of a monger of hatred than you..farrar..

        ..go on..!..name one..!..

        ..then there are all the lies you have peddled for that other black-propagandist..mcvicar..

        ..i could go on and on..

        phillip ure..

        • phillip ure 2.4.1.1

          edit:..to fourth line from bottom..

          ..should read ‘more successful as a monger of hatred’..etc..

          ..of course there are individuals who are not as ‘subtle’ in their words as you are/attempt..

          ..they let it all hang out..

          ..and funny story..!

          ..most of those fucked-individuals cluster around yr blacl-propaganda-organ..eh..?

          ..do you ever wonder why that is..?

          ..phillip ure..

      • Will@Welly 2.4.2

        Stop it phillip, the laughter is hurting my rib cage.

    • Te Reo Putake 2.5

      Hi, David. Is it true that the National Party threatened to kill Curia if you didn’t toe the line on the Chorus bailout? If so, how independent do you think the National Party thinks you are?

      • David Farrar 2.5.1

        No it isn’t true.

        And the fact Kiwiblog joined a coalition that actively opposed a Government proposal (and successful defeated it) speaks for itself in terms of independence. Also note that there was no financial advantage to me in joining the coalition (unlike some of the ISPs). I joined purely because I thought what the Government was proposing to do was wrong.

        • Te Reo Putake 2.5.1.1

          So, no approach at all? No emails, no calls, no quiet word in your ear that it might be better for you to back off? Seems most unlike the bullying Government we’ve come to know and loathe. I only ask because I’m told you’ve been telling people that this actually happened. I’m happy to take your word for it, but others may be more cynical.

          • Rhinocrates 2.5.1.1.1

            Methinks the Penguin doth protest too much.

            He’s like Hoots – you can tell he’s lying because his lips move. Kiwibog is a troll farm, fostering racist filth and the Penguin feeds them deliberately. He’s a nasty, mercenary, lying stooge.

            There are a lot of stories floating about Wellington telling of his treatment of prostitutes as well…. I don’t know if they’re true, so I won’t repeat them.

            This I do know is true: he once allowed – some would say incited – his trolls in his sewer to stalk and threaten the young children of a friend of mine who dared to criticise him. She later attempted suicide.

            No one should be under any illusions about what a thug and liar the evil little bastard is.

            He’s not “streets ahead” of Whalecum – he’s just the same kind of filth but greasier.

            • Murray Olsen 2.5.1.1.1.1

              The well dressed, outwardly respectable ones are often dirtier than the black tshirt wearers. Your comment does not surprise me at all, Rhino.

            • Scott Chris 2.5.1.1.1.2

              Wow, and what does this post say about its poster. You’ll be calling him a pedo next. Classy.

              • Pascal's bookie

                I’ve not heard anyone accuse him of that, but he does think it’s funny to dress like one for parties.

            • Onlooker 2.5.1.1.1.3

              If, as you say, this man is an unpleasant model of his species – how come he has so many highly respectable and educated friends surrounding and supporting him? If he was is as bad as you make out his peer group would surely have ostracised him.

              But then, all you have is stories from your peers, no facts, no proof. Tell a lielo big enough etc etc. etc. – used by so many enemies to try and bring a good man down. Have seen it all before!

              Would you like to inform us exactly who the children that David asked his followers to pick on and threaten and the name of the mother that later attempted suicide (which could have been related to an entirely different incident) altho’ you place it in the same sentence to try and make it seem it was because of what happened to her children. Tried and true tactics of the left for decades.We know those tactics too.

              So, out with the truth seeing as the general public was not made aware of it at the time – whose children did a certain NZ citizen have stalked and threatened? And would this action not have brought police intervention if it was fact?

              [lprent: The difficulty is that if whoever you're replying to did provide date and time facts, then in all likelihood I or another moderator would have to squelch it as being likely to be a defamatory. A "fact" that we couldn't check ourselves before publication putting the site at risk. Similarly if he mentioned the name of the woman then I'd probably have to squelch it as violating their privacy - they and their children are not public figures.

              However Rhino stuck to interpretation, rumour and opinion. The only real way for Rhino to put those allegations on this site in more than general terms is to provide links. In the case of the woman and her kids I'd probably then remove the link for the same reasons above.

              So your demand is unreasonable. Don't persist in making it.

              On the other hand, like this post, it isn't hard to find some dubious dog whistling that DPF has done over the years. For instance we all learnt from him the extent to which you could denigrate politicians not on what they do, but on insinuating what they could have been doing. Of course over the years none but Cameron went further than him in being a misogynist arsehole dogwhistling for the most moronic wankers in society. ]

            • thecard 2.5.1.1.1.4

              Wow Rhinocrates have you got anymore dirt on Farrar ?

              In between the poor treatment of prostitutes and stalking and threatening kids it sounds ;like you should be making a complaint to the local cop shop or at least leak some of the information to the media on the quiet so they can take him down.

  3. bad12 3

    Right on the money with your comments about Blubber Boy and the blog ‘Wail Oil’ but after that we definitely have diverse opinions over ‘Scoops’ Thompson,

    My question to anyone slating Thompson is firstly please show me which articles supporting the Internet Party did Thompson either author or cause to be published by Scoop in the period when He is alleged to have been compromised,(thus far wherever i have put that question the answer has been a resounding silence),

    What i refuse to contemplate for more than a mere second is that we on the left will ever dance to any tune blown by ‘Wail Oil’s’ King of filth Blubber Boy, and with this particular publication of this leak He offers up a fracturing of what admittedly is at this point a minor flake in the wall of leftist solidarity and many of us happily leap to the floor and dance like crazy???,

    (Dont take the above as a criticism MS we should be discussing Thompson’s actions and motives in minute detail),

    My point being with reference to dancing to the King of Filth’s tune is that i firmly believe that at the point where whatever His future position and/or work/employment/candidacy was confirmed with an actual registered Internet Party Thompson would have Himself made a full public disclosure and given his resignation publicly from His position(s) with Scoop,

    So if not for ‘the leak’ and it’s subsequent publication what heinous wrong has Thompson really committed, and i would ask anyone to consider that against a background where this proposed Internet Party had as yet no officials, was not registered, and had as yet not been ‘officially launched’, even at this point the Internet Party remains simply a ‘proposal’,

    Next i have to ask are we not being just a little ‘precious’ in demanding from the likes of Thompson what appears to be a straight-jacket of correctness,

    When we consider the above, have a wee think about the largest newspaper in the country when it comes to either ‘opinion’ or political reporting, i would suggest that the Herald prints 90% in favor of the National Party, other than the wing-nuts, is there any major disagreement from any here at the Standard that such a proposition is untrue,

    Most of us, in my opinion would even tho there is no concrete evidence of this,(except for what is actually printed) have a firm belief that the Herald has an editorial policy that its opinion and political writers will favor the National Party,

    When i see printed along with Every political and opinion piece produced by that newspaper a disclaimer from the editor that their policy is to favor the National Party, then and only then will i for one dance upon the floor demanding ‘higher standards’ from any journalist managing to be published while writing in favor of ‘the left’…

    • Te Reo Putake 3.1

      “My question to anyone slating Thompson is firstly please show me which articles supporting the Internet Party did Thompson either author or cause to be published by Scoop in the period when He is alleged to have been compromised,(thus far wherever i have put that question the answer has been a resounding silence),”

      The silence is because your question makes no sense. If you read the post you’ll find a quote from Gordon Campbell. He explains the problem precisely.

      • bad12 3.1.1

        TRP,if my question makes no sense to you, gee sorry, most people can see exactly what the question asks, perhaps you are just to dense to make sense of it…

  4. Tracey 4

    Well written mickey. Had the same thoughts as you.

    National and act pay well enough that it seems their secrets are harder to crack.

    Is cactus kate a member of act party?

  5. karol 5

    micky: It is fascinating how Dotcom’s money is causing havoc everywhere it is spent. He has previously caused havoc amongst the ranks of ACT and National through his donation to Banks and now has caused significant disruption to the proudly independent Scoop media organisation.

    I also have some concerns about the way Dotcom uses money to buy influence and power.

    Independant media can be funded well, by public means, if there are safeguards against political or financial interference built into it’s construction and operating procedures.

    • Jan Rivers 5.1

      The Government had a perfect opportunity, but failed to legislate last year, to create a single media standards regime for all media – web, print, radio and television to overcome the very issue of identifying which publishing should be bound by formal standards. The Law Commission Report ‘The news media meets ‘new media’ (http://r128.publications.lawcom.govt.nz/Summary/Key+conclusions) was published in March 2013 and its recommendations included recognising media consolidation and convergence and the lowered barriers to web-based publishing and specifically to:

      – recognise and protect the special status of the news media, regardless of their size or commercial status, are able to access the legal privileges and exemptions available to these publishers;
      – ensure that those entities accessing the news media’s special legal status are held accountable for exercising their power ethically and responsibly;
      – provide citizens with an effective and meaningful means of redress when those standards are breached
      – signal to the public which publishers they can rely on as sources of news and information.”

      The Government takes time to respond to Law Commission reports and in September the relevant Ministers reported that they had bit.ly/1jd2q70 “decided not to act” saying that in NZ there had been no crisis of confidence in the media (as there had in the UK with the Leveson enquiry).

      When a government ignores the recommendations of the neutral and disinterested body empowered to advise on keeping legislation relevant (on our behalf ) as well as the submissions of dozens of organisations and individuals to.http://bit.ly/1cECZph it is a small but significant dent in our democratic resilience and the quality of our governance.

  6. Yoza 6

    Campbell’s treatment of Alastair Thompson’s decision to join the Dotcom snowball serves to illustrate the stridently independent narrative Scoop has created. Next to Gordon Campbell people like Cameron Slater are highlighted as gibbering fools.

    I do not fear the Dotcom political agenda as those involving themselves with him in his foray into the New Zealand political landscape would necessarily be obliged to jump ship immediately if their reputations were threatened by any lurch toward the Randian lunacy on which the ACT party was founded.

    This whole Dotcom saga has done an excellent job of presenting the gulf between representative democracy and participatory democracy to the marginalised young. I’m not saying Dotcom is a champion of the latter (I don’t follow him closely enough to have the slightest inkling of what are his political views), but the way representative democracy is presented in contrast to the manner in which it is practiced is utterly corrupt. We are not going to vote ourselves to a civilised society, as Emma Goldman famously said, “If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.” – the parliamentary system we have is specifically designed to prevent popular participation in the decision making process.
    However, the better people understand the democratic deficit inherent in our system of representation the sooner we will move to a genuinely democratic form of social organisation. If KDC can add to this understanding all the better.

    • Chooky 6.1

      +1 Yoza….interesting ….Emma Goldman being the famous anarchist theorist … from an American I was given her hardback book ‘Anarchism and other Theories’….I felt very privileged because it was his Bible and she is very trenchant.

      I could never make my mind up about Anarchism….imo it seems either incredibly astute in its critique of democracy under capitalism or incredibly naive about how it can go about achieving its idealistic ends without using ‘democracy’ and voting ….I swing from one view to the other…In the end I value the vote because it was so hard for women and other oppressed minorities to win.

      I like your analysis…I also dont fear Dotcom and at this stage value his pull in getting youth to think about voting and participating in the ‘democratic’ process….at least they will be participating in their own political education…..instead of being alienated, cynical or apathetic bystanders

      … nor am I critical of Bradbury and Thompson….they should be trusted on their own background histories to make a good call.

    • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 6.2

      the stridently independent narrative Scoop has created…

      Note: the registrant of the Internet Party’s domain names is not Alastair Thompson – it’s Scoop Media Limited.

      From the WHOIS:

      registrant_contact_name: Scoop Media Limited
      registrant_contact_address1: 29 Brandon Street
      registrant_contact_city: Wellington

  7. irascible 7

    Interesting to note , from the links in this article, that along with Lusk & Slater a certain Jordan Williams, of the “Taxpayers’ Union”, is involved in the organisation of Collins faction. Certainly demonstrates the bias and connections of this “Voice of the Little People” group providing ammunition for the National-Act prejudice feeders.

  8. philj 8

    This relates to the huge vacuum that is our lack of quality Public Broadcasting. Radio New Zealand is not as independent as it was, TVNZ is an expensive sick joke. I take my hat off to Al Thompson and even Bomber for their energy and commitment. We need both qualities in our country.

  9. Colonial Viper 9

    To DPF: thanks for dropping by and making your comments on The Standard.

    • tinfoilhat 9.1

      You know what I agree, I don’t agree with his politics but good on him for fronting and giving a simple response to some of the baiting.

      • newsense 9.1.1

        +1

        he’s occasionally partisan and pushes a line, but mostly a well respected member of the blogosphere, even if the way he allows some of the comments to run isn’t. Streets ahead of Slater

        • idlegus 9.1.1.1

          on farrars facebook page he put up a link to the recent murders in dunedin (dad & his 2 children), with a joke “Just out of interest, does anyone know where the Bain honeymoon was? :smile: “.

          i now i know, us lefties just can’t take a joke, but fuck that. i disagree that he’s ‘streets ahead’ of whale oil.

    • @ viper..

      ..ew..!

      ..just..ew..!

      ..and..why..?

      ..(and you can unpucker yr lips now..eh..?..he’s gone..)

      phillip ure..

      • QoT 9.2.1

        Seriously, a dude just says “hey thanks for dropping by” and in your head that translates to some massive, obsequious suck-up? You need more iron in your diet, mate.

        • Jackal 9.2.1.1

          Thanks for gracing us with your presence and taking the time to talk to us mere mortals is all a bit suck-up don’t you think QoT? Not that I’m saying Farrar shouldn’t, but acting like he’s doing us a favour by continuing to perpetuate his lies on The Standard is pretty weird!

          • Tim 9.2.1.1.1

            + fucking 1!
            You nail it! I just wish more people understood exactly what it is that “collective Left” are dealing with.
            For them – it comes naturally – for the “collective Left” we keep trying to make allowances for the likes of Farrar and his gun toting macho mates, because we’re often such utterly ‘nice’ people.
            Fuk ‘em!
            Sorry if that offends – but it needs to be said!
            And that probably sums up WHY KDC might end up having a certain appeal – which IF he does, we’ll all be standing around saying Quel Surpris /Quelle Surprise – or whatever the fuck it is.

            Actually, I have this idea that KDC could be a total prick …. but more likely he’s simply ‘irrideemably liberal’, and with a heart – not too unlike an Idiot/Savant – ya never know ( ….. eh? ) Could be why the Natzis are so bloody worried.

            • Tim 9.2.1.1.1.1

              Oh …. btw …. do you think we should cobble together a focus group to mull over the various possibilities?

          • QoT 9.2.1.1.2

            What CV actually said:

            To DPF: thanks for dropping by and making your comments on The Standard

            What Jackal says CV said:

            Thanks for gracing us with your presence and taking the time to talk to us mere mortals

            Yep, those are definitely identical statements. :roll:

            • phillip ure 9.2.1.1.2.1

              @ qot..

              ..yep..they are pretty much..the same

              ..different words..but same meanings/readings..

              ..phillip ure..

            • Jackal 9.2.1.1.2.2

              QoT

              Yep, those are definitely identical statements.

              If I were to quote CV directly QoT I would have used quotation marks like those exhibited above for your comment. Instead I’ve used italics to indicate a sarcastic parody of CV sucking up to David Farrar. Sorry if you failed to comprehend the subtle difference there between italics and quotation marks…perhaps some more iron in your diet is warranted?

              • QoT

                Dude, here’s the problem: I don’t particularly *like* Colonial Viper, we disagree on a huge amount, and for all that personal bias I still cannot see this terrible, total-sell-out, sucking up that you and phillip are seeing.

                David Farrar is a fucking vile human being himself, but you know what? By actually taking part in the comments here he’s shown himself to be a hell of a lot more willing to engage and answer challenges made to him than, say, Josie Pagani.

                • Colonial Viper

                  DPF ranking ahead of Josie Pagani. The juxtaposition is almost too much to bear.

                • Jackal

                  QoT

                  I still cannot see this terrible, total-sell-out, sucking up that you and phillip are seeing.

                  I don’t see CV thanking anybody else for commenting here QoT. Why is he/she giving Farrar special treatment if not to suck-up so to speak?

                  By actually taking part in the comments here…

                  Why on earth is there any kudos at all for somebody who has only commented here to try and perpetuate his falsehoods?

                  • Colonial Viper

                    Get over it mate. Politeness and appreciation are not crimes against the lefty bible.

                    • Jackal

                      I’m not reading from a lefty bible, just agreeing with phillip ure that you were being a suck-up CV. Claiming that you were simply being appreciative and polite while nobody else receives such courtesies seems a bit disingenuous!

                    • Colonial Viper

                      So you feel left out. Like I said. Get over it.

                    • Jackal

                      There’s nothing for me to get over and you’re not my mate CV. I don’t require you to kiss my arse to understand that you puckering up for a right wing blogger speaks volumes.

                    • mickysavage

                      Enough …

                      There is nothing wrong with civility being shown. Who knows you may be able to enter into a dialogue from which some benefit may occur.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Meh.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Sorry MS that “meh” was meant for J. Can’t edit for some reason.

                    • Jackal

                      Farrar doesn’t deserve civility while he’s blatantly lying about being an “independent” blogger mickysavage, which has been my point all along.

                      When there’s an end to the disinformation, character assassinations, verbal diarrhea etc from the right wing and their propagandist bloggers, then the left should show them civility.

                    • jcuknz

                      I’m with you CV on this matter … the tone of most of this thread is the typical muckiness one unfortunately finds on blogs … it seems that blogs un-leash the worst phantasies of people.

                    • jcuknz

                      As I found over at Kiwiblog in my discussion with the entrenched rightwing over the ferry building it doesn’t matter what your arguments are you will not calm their zealousness except they were a bit more polite than I find in this thread with the foolish and ridiculous statements proliferating.

                      So it was good that you were gracious CV but in this climate unfortunately rather un-wise?

                      I guess we should offer a vote of thanks to both DPF and Lprent[ and associates ] for providing the outlets for the viciousness inherent in most of us when we do not control ourselves.

                      I wonder if it is not further proof of the diversiveness of the Left which causes so much splitting and loss of strength in the polls. We are all committed rather than pragmatic.

                    • tricledrown

                      i think CV was being Ironic as none absolutely no one on KB shows any civility to the left.
                      just outright bullies.
                      CV i just found out recently when candidate for Clutha Southland was threatened with violence on many occasions by National party supporters.
                      He kept his cool and carried the lefts message into Farrer whaleoil exclusive bretheren country.
                      CV should get a LBA lefty bravery award.

                  • QoT

                    Why is he/she giving Farrar special treatment if not to suck-up so to speak?

                    For a start, CV obviously uses male pronouns and you’ve been around long enough to know it.

                    And Farrar is not a regular commenter here. He’s also someone who doesn’t “need” to comment here as he has his own well-visited website if he really wanted to respond (again, compare with Josie Pagani.)

                    I’m not endorsing CV’s thanks, because frankly DPF is a shitty person who allows awful crap to be published in comments on his site yet tries to project this “just a nice guy, shucks” facade. But I simply have to register my :roll: at you and phillip turning a very simple, very straightforward comment from CV into some epic ideological betrayal.

                    • Jackal

                      I note that your comment doesn’t specifically answer the question you’ve quoted in italics QoT…why exactly has CV singled out David Farrar to thank for commenting?

                      Btw, thanks for saying our comments are epic, but it hasn’t been phillip ure or I who’ve carried on this debate. It has been yourself and to some extent CV. You both obviously suffer from a bad case of last word syndrome.

                      Resorting to criticizing the way we write and pathetically saying we are wrong without any real argument QoT is a big fail! So far I’ve not seen any comprehensible debate from you that would change my initial understanding that CV was being a big suck up.

              • @ jackal..;

                shouldn’t that be more ‘irony’ in the diet..?

                phillip ure..

        • phillip ure 9.2.1.2

          @ qot..

          ..it’s who he’s saying it to..

          ..and as he is an aspiring mp/beltway-insider..

          ..it is horrifying symptomatic of how farrar also so successfully ‘played’ labour during the clark years..

          ..he successfully straddled the ideological-trough/worked both sides of the room..

          ..and clark labourites seemed to be scared of him..

          ..vipers’ ‘yoo-hoo!..over here..!’…is so much more than just that..(and you know that..)

          ..and is it the phillip ure mote in yr eye..

          ..that leaves you leaping to ‘hear!..hear!’…this lifting of the skirt/winking @ farrar by viper..?

          ..eh..?

          ..quite the unedifying sight..eh..?

          ..especially for/from one who purports such as yrslf..

          ..eh..?

          phillip ure..

          • QoT 9.2.1.2.1

            I have literally no idea what the fuck you just said, phillip.

            • phillip ure 9.2.1.2.1.1

              can i suggest a dictionary..?

              ..is there anyone who could explain it to you..?

              phillip ure..

              • QoT

                Using full sentences and clearly explaining your ideas might help.

                • @ qot:..

                  that for me is the jumping the shark moment in any debate..

                  ..when the opposition only has sentence-structure (or lack of it.)…to come back at me with..

                  ..that’s when i know the debate is over/done and dusted..

                  ..and that i have won it..

                  ..phillip ure..

                  • McFlock

                    did you just claim pwnage?

                  • QoT

                    Yes, phillip. Once again you have “won”, because your personal definition of “winning” is clearly “rambled on meaninglessly until everyone gets frustrated and leaves/starts deleting my comments for being wildly offtopic”, at which point you claim that this vindicates whatever point it was you were trying to make.

          • xavier 9.2.1.2.2

            +1 exactly. they are cynical sycophants who identify more with mr farrar than with most labour members. labour, like many institutions world wide, projecting an illusion of change but it’s not real.

            • Colonial Viper 9.2.1.2.2.1

              Oh are you speaking to me? Calling me a “cynical sycophant” after I said thanks to DPF for commenting.

              Did I offend one of the commandments of the lefty bible by using politeness? Get over it mate.

              • @ c.v..

                ..can i ask who else you have verbalised yr ‘appreciation’ here to..?

                ..for them commenting..?

                ..and what exactly is it you ‘appreciate’ in/about farrar..?

                ..phillip ure..

                • Colonial Viper

                  Oh god, authoritarian lefties on their favourite past time. Hunting for fifth column traitors. Got your NKVD membership badge handy?

                  • QoT

                    Shit, I guess Martyn Bradbury was right about something. Sign of the Apocalypse?

                  • sorry..viper..

                    ..you expressed yr ‘appreciation’ of farrar..

                    ..and as you are an aspiring labour party mp..

                    ..it is totally disingenuous of you to cry ‘authoritarian lefties'(?)..

                    ..when asked just what it is you appreciate about that master-peddler of hate/lies..

                    ..so much so..you felt driven to give him a shout-out..(!)..

                    ..for those of us trying to end/undo the neo-lib consensus-waltz both lab/nat have had for the last 30 yrs..

                    ..yr insider wink is bordering on intolerable..

                    ..and just sets off alarm-bells as to you being any real agent of change..

                    ..you are showing yrslf up as more a ‘please please..can i come in..?..i’ll be a good boy..i promise..!’

                    ..and that you so easily resort to cold-war commie-hunting rhetoric..

                    ..(‘..NKVD membership badge’..(!?)..

                    ..only confirms that impression..

                    ..eh..?

                    ..of you as a neo-lib warrior..

                    ..in progressive drag..

                    ..(and did you ever answer that question i asked you..about yr apparant oil-company/drilling ‘pimping’..?

                    ..some clarification on that wd be appreciated..

                    ..eh..?..)

                    phillip ure..

              • xavier

                It was a bit overweening to chastise you for thanking the guy. But Farrar trades in disingenuous sophistry (labour plans to nationalise the power industry etc). If I was an aspiring labour mp that would just really irk me, but you’re just being your courteous self.

          • JK 9.2.1.2.3

            ” ..it is horrifying symptomatic of how farrar also so successfully ‘played’ labour during the clark years..

            ” ..he successfully straddled the ideological-trough/worked both sides of the room..

            ” ..and clark labourites seemed to be scared of him.. ”

            Philip – can you elaborate on the above aspect of your post, please

  10. captain hook 10

    so tell me one more time just so I will understand.
    who funds wail boil?

  11. Pascal's bookie 11

    I’ll just leave this here, if anyone can find any sort of disclosure statement in it, let me know:

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/01/selection-season-upon-us/#more-123334

  12. Good on Thompson for a) joining Dotcom and 2) not sacrificing the brave record of Scoop by stepping down.
    re 1) not because Dotcom is our saviour but because he stands for personal freedom as a condition of making money. (More fool him but never mind he will discover that capitalism is its own worst enemy)
    His is a naively innocent capitalism of the naked entrepreneur that deserves to be put to the test so that it can be scrapped as a delusion, not by the cronies but by us.
    re 2) Scoop is not ‘independent’. It has to survive financially which means it cannot be ‘independent’ of making compromises with capitalism. True independence would mean identifying openly as representing the interests of anti-capitalism.
    That is where (1) leads, objectively, (independently of the will of Dotcom) and by choosing (1) Thompson can create a Mega Scoop (2) funded by an objectively anti-capitalist.

  13. captain hook 13

    I beg to differ. dotcom made his money stealing off the legitimate artists who created the music in the first place and then claiming that he had a right to do what he liked. Blubberguts wail boil is a different ketttle of fish altogether. He is a psychopath busy accusing others of the things he wants to do himself in the vain hope that he will deflect suspicion off his own private proclivities.

    • Colonial Viper 13.1

      Dotcom provided a file storage and retrieval service. That is all. He didn’t steal anything. Before he was shut down he had been in touch with the FBI and followed their instructions re: copyright material.

      And that’s why the Government/US case has gone as far as it has: nowhere.

  14. blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 14

    “Recent events have refocussed attention on new media and how political blogsites relate to conventional concepts of media.”

    Hang about?

    Didn’t a court of law recently rule a well-known (& hated) political blog site as ‘not a news medium within section s68 (sub-section 5) of the Evidence Act.’

    Was this in reference to blogsites in general?
    Or Whaleoil’s specific style?

    If it was in reference to blogsites in general, then it follows that normal ‘media’ rules for blogsites don’t apply. Can’t have it both ways.

    It stands to reason that a political blogsite will contain writers who are actively involved in politics, yet, yes, I think it far preferable that bloggers disclose their active connections to official political parties.

    It has beem very clear that Bradbury was active in left-wing politics from the get-go – can the same be said for Farrar, Slater or even Hooton? – two of which, who are introduced on television as ‘political commentators’ – a very ‘neutral and independent’ label for people who are not that.

    As for Scoop – what is this? It is perfectly o.k for right-wing party views to actively influence our printed media sources (‘The Herald’, ‘The Listener’), yet a person who sets up Scoop can’t be actively involved in a political party – despite quite likely* not having written anything slanted in favour of that party?

    * I am keen to be provided links to any article that appears to compromise the independent nature of Thompson’s writings –

    It appears there is one rule for those holding right-wing views and another for those holding left-wing views in this country at present.

    • mickysavage 14.1

      Hi BL

      The decision suggests that no blogsites are media unless they are controlled by a traditional media organisation. LPrent thought this was fine and I have reservations because it seemed to me to be against the clear words in the legislation but at another level I do not have a problem with it.

      I was trying to contast the responses by Scoop and Slater. Gordon Campbell at Scoop set out very effectively why Thompson’s situation became intolerable and Slater agrees with this but does not have the decency to acknowledge that this should also apply to his own site, that is he engages in partisan political attacks and is not media because of that.

      • lprent 14.1.1

        Disagreement is normal.

        What I specifically said was that I couldn’t see that blog sites needed the protections and responsibilities of traditional media.

        Those protections are there for a specific purpose, because those media spend much of their effort finding and researching news stories and their reporters needed protection from malicious persecution.

        But there is a tradeoff. The legal system also holds them to a higher level of responsibility. They have to make sure that their news is as accurate as they can make it. They also are expected to provide a degree of balance.

        My argument is that blogs are largely commenting on the news. They aren’t resourced to determine the accuracy of everything that they say. That is why they largely tend to post opinion rather than news.

        The Whaleoil site is a good case in point. Most of the material that is posted there definitely isn’t news. It is straight opinion. Moreover it usually ignores *any* facts that cut into whatever thesis that it is making. With a lot of the posts on the site the material is simply made up or speculative. Where a “opportunity” is provided for response – it is treated by Cameron Slater and his minions to merely be a forum for ritual humiliation. The Blomfield case clearly showed that.

        When WhaleOil is doing “news” stories like the Len Brown one. It did exactly the same thing. Where exactly did Cameron show any attempt to provide any balance in the initial and all subsequent coverage on the site? Quite simply that was all provided by traditional media. Similarly where was the fact checking done for some of the claims? etc etc.

        Sure Whaleoil were given the story by members of the National’s mayoral campaign team, but I don’t think that their subsequent actions showed any of the care that professional journalists are meant to have. And that was an actual news story that he broke – and then gave to the traditional media to do the job correctly..

        Unless new media is resourced to provide the type of care that journalists are meant to bring to their task and then provide it, I don’t think that they require nor should have the protections accorded to those who do.

        Now this isn’t just blogs. The same applies to other things. Radio talk shows for instance.

        • lprent 14.1.1.1

          I should have added that in my view:-

          1. Being a journalist often gets in the way of clearly expressing an opinion.
          2. Blogs are about expressing opinions by citizens who aren’t journalists.
          3. Their role is more important in many ways than that of journalists.
          4. The roles between blogger and journalist are complementary.

  15. Port Hills Pete 15

    Meanwhile we are talking about only two websites because the Internet Party does not have one!!

  16. enoch powell 16

    Whale oil has a tremendous following more than all the left blogs put together in number of visits. Wonder why that would be ?

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 16.1

      Because he posts so much non-political content designed to get overseas page hits? Just a wild guess.

    • Chris 16.2

      “Wonder why that would be ?”

      The voyeuristic nature of people?

    • mickysavage 16.3

      Lets see, on an average day the Standard will put up (say) five posts, including open mike, one notice and feature and three longer posts on different subjects designed to stimulate some discussion.

      Yesterday Slater put up 31 posts including

      a biblical proverb designed to get world wide bible seeking hits,
      a face of the day post about an old guy who lives in Iraq and has not washed for 50 years,
      a general debate post similar to ours with 109 comments, TS had 273,
      a photoshopped picture of a tent city at Dotcom’s mansion,
      a post about National’s selection season with a big push for a young guy called Kael Roberts. I wonder if he has been to one of Simon Lusk’s candidate schools?
      a post made out of a comment made by one of Slater’s readers,
      a post about Dotcom and Bradbury,
      another post about Bradbury,
      a post about Australian economic problems containing three sentences of original text,
      a post attacking Lianne Dalziel for having too many assistants,
      a cartoon about Dotcom,
      a photo of the day post about a church in Poland with human bones inside it,
      yet another post attacking Len Brown,
      a caption contest about a middle eastern terrorist looking sort with a concrete block tied around him,
      a short post about Lord Tebbit in the UK attacking fat people,
      a map of the day showing that the US is the only nation in the world still using Fahrenheit to measure temperature,
      a post on a US poll showing that Chris Christie of the US is still popular even though his staff stuffed up a city’s transport system out of a political vendetta,
      a post attacking a German tourist,
      a post about how a Waiheke quarry has increased its charges,
      another post about Dotcom,
      a post about pedophile priests,
      a very unfunny fake transcript about a telephone conference between Labour and Green MPs,
      a daily trivia post,
      eight youtube videos including a cat video and a gun video both designed to get clicks and a video about someone falling asleep on the toilet, a young girl doing wheelies in a Corvette, and someone discussing having sex on a plane.

      Tremendous following? The site is full of click bait designed to get international clicks and the content and quality of the writing is very poor.

        • Grumpy 16.3.1.1

          Yep, there is no doubt he’s a page hits whore………but, is that a bad thing for a blog owner?

          • Pascal's bookie 16.3.1.1.1

            not really, but if you are using page views to trumpet how awesome you are, then it’s a pretty lame thing.

          • Jackal 16.3.1.1.2

            Not sure why you’re asking me Grumpy? I guess if a person is concerned with the Internet getting clogged up with lots of irrelevant crap that is simply designed to get more hits, they would think a site like Fail Oil is a bad thing. Clearly Slater prefers to stroke his own ego concerning a large amount of fleeting visits instead of actually producing some worthwhile and readable content. Unfortunately for him a hit counter doesn’t actually equate to a credible political blog at all.

      • BM 16.3.2

        Why would whaleoil get international clicks.

        If he’s getting a heap of traffic from off shore there’s something gone seriously wrong with the google search engine.

        Also why is the writing poor?, from what I can see it’s perfect for the audience it’s being pitched at.
        No one wants to read long winded waffle, blunt and to the point is what the majority of people want.

        • enoch powell 16.3.2.1

          Must be all the Kiwis that left for overseas between 2000 to 2009 years

          • One Anonymous Knucklehead 16.3.2.1.1

            Must be difficult being a wingnut, and not be able to remember election years, and quote statistics that are worse under National. How many per year between 1999 and 2008? How many per year since then?

            You really are trying to give the impression you’ere an idiot, eh.

          • mickysavage 16.3.2.1.2

            You need a history lesson.

        • mickysavage 16.3.2.2

          Why would whaleoil get international clicks.

          Do you have a better explanation for the gun clips and the biblical passages?

          Also why is the writing poor?, from what I can see it’s perfect for the audience it’s being pitched at. No one wants to read long winded waffle, blunt and to the point is what the majority of people want.

          You are right that it is perfect for the audience it is pitched at. It is not designed to stimulate thought or discussion. It is designed to stroke existing prejudices and feelings of superiority.

          • BM 16.3.2.2.1

            Do you have a better explanation for the gun clips and the biblical passages?

            Slater’s a religious man, he’s also gone a bit gun mad at the moment

            All the video’s and viral stuff is part of a clever SEO strategy, Slater knows how google works and he’s using it to his advantage, I’d bet money the vast majority of his traffic is from NZ.

            • mickysavage 16.3.2.2.1.1

              BM do you think that it is a good thing for Slater to engage in these tactics to increase page views and then claim that he has the most popular political blog in the country?

              • BM

                For Cameron, yes it is.
                His blog is one of his sources of income, the more traffic he gets to his site the better.

                Personally I think Whale oil has moved beyond being solely a political blog, as Cameron wrote a while ago he was trying to move his website content toward a more blokey audience.

                Think he wants to turn Whale oil more into a politics based FMH.

                • QoT

                  The original point of this thread, though, was the claim that Slater “has a tremendous following”. Which seems highly questionable given that everyone else seems to agree his viewership statistics are rubbish – albeit good for generating revenue.

                  • BM

                    He does seem to have a large following also unless you’ve seen his website stats and by website stats, I’m talking

                    Referrals
                    Where traffic’s coming from.
                    Bounce rate
                    Time on site
                    Page Views

                    Without knowing those factors you have no idea if his website stats are rubbish or not.

        • Pascal's bookie 16.3.2.3

          It would be interesting to see a breakdown of his numbers. How many hits he gets on the youtube, bible quote, and general fluff posts for eg. As well as the source of hits. He used to have one of those world map plugins that show where the hits for the site is coming from. From memory most of his hits came from Norway, the NZ, aus, and change…

      • Colonial Viper 16.3.3

        MS. I’m very sorry that you had to subject yourself to that.

      • phillip ure 16.3.4

        i had an encounter with slater a few yrs back..

        ..at the time i was posting about 15 stories/links per day…

        ..he advised me i was doing ‘too much’..

        ..and should cut back the number of stories i posted..

        ..i immediately cranked up my output..

        ..to the 40-50 stories i now/still do each day..

        ..and slater went away..and increased his daily output..

        ..didn’t he take his own advice..?

        ..phillip ure..

  17. alwyn 17

    Given the chaos that develops when anyone accepts Dotcom’s money the Left had better hope that RedBaronCV’s wishes are not satisfied. If a few thousand, or a few tens of thousands, of dollars can wreck Banks, Bradley and Thomson what would a few million do?
    As RedBaron suggests:

    “Would it not be sensible for Dotcom to also give some donations to labour, Mana and the Greens? A couple of mill would go a long way toward having coalition partners that respect your general stance”.

    Even ignoring the slight whiff of the view that RB seems to imply that these other parties principles can be bought it would probably be the case that that much of Dotcom’s money would be a fatal dose.
    All party treasurers should be warned to immediately burn any cheques from Kim.

    http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-12012014/#comment-756225

    • alwyn 17.1

      A correction. It isn’t Bradley and Thomson. It is Bradbury and Thompson. At least I spelt Banks properly.

    • RedBaronCV 17.2

      No whiff intended Alwyn – just pointing out that the right seem very interested in snooping on everyone, the left not so much – so no KDC would not be buying friends. Of course public declarations would be the order of the day.

      And a nice compliment in there too. Makes a change from those whose principles do appear to be for sale.

      • alwyn 17.2.1

        I think you worded it very well actually. You get across the idea that Labour and the Greens, in particular, will “respect your general stance”. That is sufficiently wooly to avoid any realistic claim of corruption while still getting the point across.
        You could hardly get away with something like “These three parties, for a fee, will give you anything you ask for. The price is two million dollars”. That would be a bit blunt and I don’t think you could really have suggested such an idea publicly.
        I thik that if asked the parties concerned would deny that you are speaking for them. The idea is out there of course.

        • RedBaronCV 17.2.1.1

          Of course I’m not speaking for any of them since, surprise, I don’t belong to any of them.

          And of course different political parties can share similar ideas without it being labled corruption. NZF doesn’t want to sell assets, nor do other parties.

          Basically, this is just a comment, no more no less, that doesn’t commit anyone and isn’t sourced from anybody else.
          Lot of angst about what really is just a minor comment on shared views about having a rule of law.

          But since you ask I don’t actually see any of those parties giving KDC exactly what he wants, nor did John Banks now did he?

  18. Tracey 18

    I am shocked. No disclosure from slater…

    Slater = a woodlouse or similar isopod crustacean.

    Slater = A verb meaning to sit backwards on a toilet while defecating. 

  19. Rob 19

    Interesting the comments re Farrar
    Beware his sole purpose to comment is the classic Right response aimed to change the debate so they controll the discussion
    He is like a CT slug cf to a slater!

  20. jcuknz 20

    There is or was a large slater in my shrub which I need to deal with before I have my shower … do I carefully lift it up and place it where it can scuttle back into its home from whence it fell …. or flush it down the toilet? :)

  21. Tracey 21

    Cactus kate is based in hong kong and has said in the past she supports slaters site. Hence I asked if she is an act party member.

    David farrar I have question that mr hooten and mr mapp cant or wont answer.

    If you think we are in a time of economic good news;

    Can you explain how the current “economic good news”, similar to that we’ve had from time to time over the last 40 years, will translate into changes for the 50% of kiwis who currently earn less than $30k per year, and when? And why anything will improve this time, unlike the previous economic good news times ?

  22. tricledrown 22

    The Hollow men are here again

    • Paul 22.1

      Yup the Hollow Men project is still going on, aided and abetted by characters like Farrar and. Hooton.
      All these folk are all really ACT ( libertarians/ Randists) and hiding in National in plain sight.
      This has been the plan ever since the failure of ACT. Hence Banks 1 seat tea party is able to dictate the education policy of the country. Key was heavily implicated by the Hollowman story. He played his role brilliantly in the first term, ably assisted by a corporate media, to build trust with the NZ public. It is depressing to see how easily many NZers can be duped. The dumbing down of education, and the distractions of sport and an increasing obsession with celebrity, means people are increasingly ill informed about what’s actually going on and easier to fool.
      Then term 2 and a more overt ACT agenda…asset sales, the privatisation of education.
      If they win again in 2014, NZ should expect to see the dismantling of the welfare state, the education and health systems of this country in Key’s 3rd term.
      Then it will be too late.

  23. Cactus Kate 23

    Tracey
    I haven’t been an ACT member for two years now. And I’m definitely not a Nat.

    And I haven’t given a cent to the Whaleoil site. When you stop guessing and find out precisely what his blog makes please let me know as he owes me at least 5 years of lunches.

    Thanks
    CK

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    On Friday evening the new O’Connell St shared space was officially opened. The street is by far the best shared space created in Auckland to date thanks in large part to the historic buildings in the area which feel like they’ve been...
    Transport Blog | 22-09
  • The issues that matter
    I'm not bitter and twisted. No, really, I'm not. Much....
    Imperator Fish | 22-09
  • Upcoming MOOC makes sense of climate science denial
    In collaboration with The University of Queensland, Skeptical Science is developing a MOOC, or Massive Online Open Course, that makes sense of climate science denial. The Denial101x MOOC will launch in March 2015 on the EdX platform. Registration has just opened...
    Skeptical Science | 21-09
  • Where to from here for National?
    If John Key wants to have a stab at a fourth term as Prime Minister, there’ll be no one in the party to stop him. He’s weathered the Dirty Politics and Moment of Truth storms, and come out the other...
    Occasionally erudite | 21-09
  • Things you can do about global warming now we have a new do-nothing governm...
    Australia’s brilliant First Dog On The Moon on climate action (courtesy of The Tree), deemed by me to be relevant in the aftermath of an election that has delivered New Zealand another three years of National-led government, and therefore little...
    Hot Topic | 21-09
  • Semi-diamonds in the very rough
    In the midst of the Labour soul-searching (which may be ongoing for some time) I want to give some praise for three especially good Labour performers in the election: The first is Stuart Nash. Stuart has worked his butt off...
    Polity | 21-09
  • A failure to properly report on Climate Change
    I'm not sure if you've noticed the mainstream media, after a grueling 2014 general election, are too engrossed with their continued promotion of brand Key to bother properly reporting on matters of more importance like Climate Change events.While the international...
    The Jackal | 21-09
  • The deconstruction – what went down
    So, in the end it wasn’t even close. Unless the special votes are dramatically out of kilter with the votes counted on election night, National has the numbers to govern alone. The worse-case scenario now for National is that they...
    Occasionally erudite | 21-09
  • Reality-adjacent
    John Key and David Cunliffe both spent much of the election campaign talking about the dreaded “things that New Zealanders really care about”. But Key, under direct attack, was much more disciplined about sticking to those things. The metacampaign, Dirty...
    Kiwipolitico | 21-09
  • The lurch to the right begins
    John Key is busily constructing the smokescreen for his third term, and the key phrase is going to be “centre ground“. “Obviously there are some things we want to do; RMA (Resource Management Act) reform, employment law reform, but they’d...
    Boots Theory | 21-09
  • Who’s to blame for National
    After the huge number of advance votes placed in the lead-up to election day, the overall turnout was shockingly low. It’s easy to imagine that this would follow pre-existing trends in favouring the right. National actually got fewer votes than...
    The little pakeha | 21-09
  • This is not an election advertisement
    The laws we have around Election Day are just a bit silly. Yesterday everyone’s Twitter feeds were a bit like this: um…er…ahh….ummm….dum de do………ahem…….18 hours 53 minutes to go………nice weather we've been having?……….um……. — Election Satire (@2014satire) September 19, 2014...
    Boots Theory | 21-09
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    Frankly Speaking | 21-09
  • She saw John Key on TV and decided to vote!
    . . NZ, Wellington, 15 September – ‘Tina’* is 50, a close friend,  and one of the “Missing Million” from the last election. In fact, ‘Tina’ has never voted in her life.  Not once. In ‘Tina’s’ own words, politics has...
    Frankly Speaking | 21-09
  • The best result John Key could have got
    John Key got his best result: a majority on his own or with young David Seymour if National’s vote drops on the special votes as much as the half per cent it dropped in 2011. He didn’t need the Conservatives...
    Colin James | 21-09
  • Economics and the Puhoi Warkworth Board of Inquiry
    The final decision from the Board of Inquiry confirming the Puhoi to Warkworth toll road was published on 12th September but, what with one thing and another, I’m only now getting round to writing about it. The final report is largely unchanged from the...
    Transport Blog | 21-09
  • Bugger!
    This election campaign was a roller-coaster of unexpected revelations and controversy. For the Greens this meant our strategy of running a clean campaign, sticking to a clear plan and releasing properly costed, practical policies never made the impression it should...
    Local Bodies | 21-09
  • Fair Play
    Article – Alexander Lowe The Australian Football League (AFL) has cancelled a sponsorship deal between its affiliated league in Europe and Royal Brunei Airlines. AFL had earlier this year pledged to combat eliminate homophobia in sports so discovery of sponsorship...
    Its our future | 21-09
  • Gordon Campbell on Labour’s very bad year
    While Labour leader David Cunliffe still appears to be in denial about the extent of Saturday night’s debacle, there was hardly a single redeeming feature about the election results for the centre-left. Even the victory by Labour’s Stuart Nash in...
    Gordon Campbell | 21-09
  • Yesterday is not ours to recover, but tomorrow is ours to win or lose
    I see suggestions that the National Party somehow manipulated results to gain their unprecedented win as an extension of “dirty politics”. I have no doubt that there has been a vindictive streak in ministers’ ranks for some time as this...
    Closing the Gap | 21-09
  • 2014 SkS Weekly Digest #38
    "Today, we march... In Berlin, London, Amsterdam, Oslo, Rome, Stockholm, Paris, Madrid, Porto, Geneva, Ljubliana, Budapest and so many other places." - 350.0rg SkS Highlights As to be expected, Dana's The 97% v the 3% – just how much global warming are...
    Skeptical Science | 21-09
  • Hard News: Five further thoughts
    1. Christ, what a shellacking. Click around Harkanwal Singh's Herald interactive. In electorate after electorate, polling place after polling place, National won at least a plurality of the votes. Even where voters collectively chose to return their Labour MPs to...
    Public Address | 21-09
  • The law of unintended consequences. Data security edition.
    This report from Flashpoint: ‘Measuring the Impact of the Snowden Leaks on the Use of Encryption by Online Jihadists’ (available here as web page or PDF) concludes (SPOILER:) Meh, not so much. The Flashpoint report recounts how the use of...
    The Paepae | 21-09
  • A healthy dose of humble pie
    I got one thing right about this election. I managed not to do anything as misguided as publicly state a prediction that National would get anything like as low a vote total as 44% ... as for instance, did Bryce Edwards. Yep,...
    Pundit | 21-09
  • Alas no mystery – it’s voter apathy
      There once was a PM named Key Re-elected with a majority The left fell flat What happened Matt? Alas  it’s voter apathy...
    Politically Corrected | 21-09
  • Labour must change
     Labour's problems can't just be fixed by a switch at the top. Change requires more than that. It must challenge the intellectual, organisational and cultural fundamentals of what it means to be Labour....
    Pundit | 21-09
  • Looking Ahead
    Win or lose, there are never any final battles in politics. A defeat simply means the firing of the starting gun for the next round in a never-ending struggle. And, especially for the left, it is the struggle that matters....
    Bryan Gould | 21-09
  • Left in tatters.
    A while back I wrote a post arguing that the NZ Left was in serious disarray. Various Left pontificators fulminated from the depths of their revolutionary armchairs against my views, denouncing me for being defeatist. I responded as politely as...
    Kiwipolitico | 21-09
  • Psephology-o-rama: Hangover nerdery edition
    I was really privileged to be able to work with the TV3 election night team last night, providing some quantitative analysis on the results as they came in. One of the things we put together was a tool that could...
    Polity | 21-09
  • The Key to a 4th term
    The coming days will see a welter of words on the reasons for the spectacular success of National and the failure of the broad left. As a 'pundit', I might as well add my views....
    Pundit | 20-09
  • Democracy 101
    Earlier this week Scottish voters participated in their independence referendum. There are many, many points to be made about this. Most notably, however, is the fact that the percentage of people turning out to vote in this democratic process was around...
    My Thinks | 20-09
  • Gutted
    OK, so 24.7% is a disaster. Three years ago we were saying 27.5% was a disaster, and this is substantially worse again. It is true that the government had some economy-based tail winds this time round. But the government also...
    Polity | 20-09
  • What it all means for the Labour Party
    An analysis of what went wrong and why, and what it means....
    Imperator Fish | 20-09
  • Hold fast to your Mana – Harawira
    Hone Harawira today called on the voters of Tai Tokerau to hold fast to their mana, and not be dictated to by those party leaders who have ganged together to tell them how to vote. “I call on our people...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Media Advisory – Interview availability
    This is to advise all media that Hone Harawira will be available in Auckland tomorrow, Friday the 19th of September from 7am to 4pm for interviews relating to his recent press releases. If you are interested in interviewing Mr Harawira on...
    Mana | 18-09
  • Labour stands on proud record on Suffrage Day
    Women have come a long way in the 121 years since New Zealand became the first country to give them the vote on September 19 1893, but there is still more to do, Labour’s Women’s Affairs spokesperson Carol Beaumont says....
    Labour | 18-09
  • Polling Booths asked to treat Maori voters with respect
    “Polling booths without Maori roll voting papers, Maori people not being offered assistance to vote, people getting sent from Whangarei to Wellsford to vote, Maori people getting turned away from voting because they didn’t have their ‘easy vote’ card, Maori...
    Mana | 17-09
  • Aussie Liberals embroiled in Key campaign
    John Key needs to explain why Australia’s Liberal Party is interfering in New Zealand domestic politics and is encouraging Kiwi voters across the ditch to vote for National just days out from the election, Labour’s campaign spokesperson Annette King says....
    Labour | 17-09
  • The MANA Plan for Beneficiaries and Income in Waiariki
    Median Personal Income for Waiariki is $21,700. Over 13,000 Maori who live in Waiariki rely upon a form of government benefit including the Unemployment Benefit, Sickness Benefit, Domestic Purpose Benefit and the Invalids Benefit. “If you’re lucky enough to have...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Māori development crucial to New Zealand’s future
    Labour recognises the concern of Māori about child poverty and the rising costs of living, and in Government will make a real difference to the wellbeing of whānau and iwi, Labour’s Māori Affairs spokesperson Nanaia Mahuta says. “As our Māori...
    Labour | 16-09
  • MAORI PARTY – DON’T COMPLAIN … WALK
    “If the Maori Party are serious about stopping government spying on NZ citizens then they should tell the Prime Minister to either stop doing it or they will walk away” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira, on...
    Mana | 16-09
  • JOHN KEY SUPPORTING LABOUR
    “There is something really sick about a National Party Prime Minister coming out in support of a Labour candidate” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira, after hearing that John Key is urging voters to back Labour in...
    Mana | 16-09
  • SHUT DOWN THIS GOVT NOT KAITI WINZ – Nikora
    “I’m going to make it as hard for you to get help as I can” is Paula Bennett’s message to the people of Kaiti  said MANA candidate Te Hāmua Nikora today in response to the news that National will close...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Winegums make for better polling – Harawira
    I wanted to laugh when I saw the Native Affairs poll the other night (Hone Harawira 38%, Kelvin Davis 37%) because it was almost the same as the one they did back in 2011”, said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau...
    Mana | 16-09
  • The Leadership of MTS Lied – Harawira
    “Normally I’m happy to tell people that I was right but when I received the news about the staff cuts at Maori Television, I had nothing but sympathy for the three Maori media leaders who are going to be made...
    Mana | 16-09
  • Privileges Complaint Laid against Prime Minister – Harawira
    MANA Movement Leader and Te Tai Tokerau MP Hone Harawira has today lodged a Privileges Complaint with the Speaker regarding the Prime Ministers denials in parliament that he knew anything about Kim Dotcom before 2012. “Information made public today appears...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Sharples’ new appointments are out of order
    The new appointments to the Waitangi Tribunal announced by Dr Pita Sharples this morning are completely out of order given the election is just five days away, says Labour's State Services spokesperson, Maryan Street. “This Government continues to show disdain...
    Labour | 15-09
  • MANA Movement Housing Policy
    “When families are living in cars, garages, cockroach-infested caravans and three families to a house then we have a housing crisis”, said MANA leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira. “When you have a housing crisis for low-income...
    Mana | 15-09
  • Bigger than the Foreshore and Seabed – Sykes
    “Over the past week I have received some disturbing information that has led myself and a number of Maori lawyers to conclude that this National - Maori Party - ACT and United Future Government are going to put an end to both...
    Mana | 14-09
  • MANA wants Te Reo Māori petition fulfilled
    Hone Harawira, MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Annette Sykes, MANA candidate for Waiariki Te Hāmua Nikora, MANA candidate for Ikaroa Rāwhiti  “More than four decades have passed and the petition calling for Te Reo Māori in schools...
    Mana | 14-09
  • Primary focus on the critical issues
    A Labour Government will prioritise New Zealand’s agricultural sectors by recreating a Rural Affairs Minister and appointing a Primary Industry Council and a Chief Agricultural Adviser. Releasing Labour’s Primary Sector and Rural Affairs policies today, spokesperson Damien O’Connor says the...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Maori Television fears confirmed – Harawira
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    Mana | 12-09
  • More ghost houses from National
    The Government’s desperate pre-election announcement of more ghost houses won’t fool Aucklanders wanting action on the housing crisis, says Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “These are ghost houses, to go with National’s ghost tax cut. Families cannot live in ghost...
    Labour | 12-09
  • National bows to union pressure over travel time
    National has reluctantly bowed to pressure from unions and adopted Labour’s fair and sensible policy to pay home support workers for the time they spend traveling between clients, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson Iain Lees-Galloway says. “This decision is long overdue...
    Labour | 12-09
  • Predators on Poverty – Harawira
    “As poverty has ballooned out of control, the Predators on Poverty have emerged to suck the lifeblood from whole families and communities” said MANA Movement leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira. “They are deliberately targeting low-income areas, particularly those...
    Mana | 11-09
  • MANA Movement Policy Launch
    Predators on Poverty (pokie machines, alcohol outlets and loan sharks) 1pm, Thursday 11th September Corner Great South Road and Criterion Street Otahuhu Shopping Centre...
    Mana | 10-09
  • Eliminating Poverty – Sir Edmund Hillary Collegiate, Otara | Internet MAN...
    A campaign to Eliminate Poverty, Feed the Kids, build more houses, and create thousands of new jobs, was outlined by Internet MANA at a public meeting in Otara this evening. When MANA and the Internet Party first sat down to...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Housing in Waiariki – Sykes
    Fact:  Under this National-Maori Party-ACT-United Future Government 61% of Maori in Waiariki do not own their own home and nearly 70% of Maori rentals in Waiariki pay $200 or more per week. “Maori in Waiariki have low rates of home ownership...
    Mana | 09-09
  • Charter school crisis shows time to axe costly experiment
    Dysfunction from day one at a Northland charter school shows it is time to dump this costly and failed experiment by the National-ACT Government, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Te Kura Hourua ki Whangaruru received $27,000 in government funding...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Labour will crack down on loan sharks
    A Labour Government will crack down on predatory loan sharks by making it illegal both to charge exorbitant interest rates and to exploit uninformed borrowers, Labour’s Consumer Affairs Spokesperson Carol Beaumont says. Labour today released its Consumer Affairs policy which...
    Labour | 08-09
  • Let’s do the FEED before the weed
    “Last week I put out a very strongly worded email to my colleagues about an online promotion about cannabis law reform” said MANA leader and Tai Tokerau MP, Hone Harawira “and I stand by that criticism today.” My concern was...
    Mana | 08-09
  • TE KAEA and NATIVE AFFAIRS live to fight another day
    “I understand that both the chair of the Board of Maori Television, Georgina Te Heuheu, and new CEO, Paora Maxwell, are now saying that my comments this morning about their plans to cut Te Kaea and Native Affairs, were wrong, and that...
    Mana | 08-09
  • How come the PM only pays 2.8% of his income in tax – Harawira
    “Before John Key talks about the piddling tax cuts he plans for low and middle income families today he needs to explain why he only pays 2.8% of his income on tax while a minimum wage worker pays 28% tax,”...
    Mana | 07-09
  • THE DEATH OF INDEPENDENCE FOR MAORI TV
    “If what I’m hearing is true, tomorrow Maori Television Service (MTS) will dump its news programme, Te Kaea, and staff will lose their jobs” said MANA Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau, Hone Harawira “and the Minister of Maori...
    Mana | 07-09
  • Labour recommits to Pike River families
    An incoming Labour-led government will do everything possible to recover the bodies of the Pike River Miners and return them to their families, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “This tragedy and its aftermath has left the families of the 29...
    Labour | 06-09
  • Voting has started and still no tax plan or fiscal budget for voters to see
    "Even though voting for the election has already begun, National still refuses to provide any details of its proposed tax cuts. And Bill English admitted this morning that he won’t provide any specifics until after the election", Labour’s Finance spokesperson...
    Labour | 06-09
  • National’s partners’ tax plans cost at least $42 billion
    If National forms the next government its partners’ tax plans will cost the country at least $42 billion, and maybe as much as $50 billion, wreaking havoc with the books, says Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker. “National claims to be...
    Labour | 05-09
  • Labour: Providing more opportunities for young Kiwis
    A Labour Government will ensure every young Kiwi under the age of 20 is given the opportunity to be in work, education or training, and plans to develop a conservation apprenticeship scheme to help do that, Labour’s Youth Affairs spokesperson...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Candles out on teachers’ slice of birthday cake
    Today may be Novopay’s second birthday, but there’s little to celebrate, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Novopay has cost the taxpayer tens of millions of dollars already, and the cost is still climbing....
    Labour | 04-09
  • National’s blatant broadband pork barrelling misses the mark by a country...
    National’s blatant pork-barrelling ICT announcement today should reinforce a growing sceptical electorate’s view that they are all about the gift wrap and not the present, Labour’s ICT spokesperson Clare Curran says. “Instead of addressing the real issues - the woeful...
    Labour | 04-09
  • More evidence of the need to clean up the system
    The latest release of emails and messages between disgraced Minister Judith Collins and blogger Cameron Slater are more evidence of the urgent need to clean up politics, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. "This new evidence confirms a near constant flow...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Labour commits to stable funding for voluntary sector
    A Labour Government will establish long-term funding and streamline contract accountability for community and voluntary groups, says Labour’s spokesperson for the sector Louisa Wall. Announcing Labour’s policy for the community and voluntary sector, she said this would give much greater...
    Labour | 04-09
  • Better trained and skilled workforce under Labour
    Labour is committed to a skilled workforce that benefits businesses as well as their workers, and will increase workplace training to improve productivity and drive innovation, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Labour believes the Government should support New Zealanders into...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will make renting a better option
    Labour will provide greater security of tenure for renters, and build more state and social housing, says Labour’s housing spokesperson Phil Twyford. “Labour believes every kid deserves a decent start in life. That means a warm, dry and secure home....
    Labour | 03-09
  • At least 15 new taxes under National
    John Key is the last person to talk about creating taxes, presiding over a Government that has imposed at least 15 new taxes, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “John Key tried a novel line in the debate last night claiming...
    Labour | 03-09
  • Labour will strengthen New Zealand’s democracy
    A Labour Government will act quickly to protect and enhance New Zealand’s reputation as one of the most open and least corrupt countries in the world, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The health of any democracy is improved by greater...
    Labour | 02-09
  • MANA Movement says tax cut on GST must be first priority – Minto
    “If Prime Minister John Key has money available for tax cuts then cutting GST must be the first priority”,  said MANA Movement Economic Justice Spokesperson John Minto. GST is a nasty tax on low-income families”, said Minto. “People in the...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The Maori Party’s Mana-Enhancing Relationship with National – Minto
    “First we had Cameron Slater and David Farrar backing Labour’s Kelvin Davis bid to unseat MANA Movement Leader and MP for Te Tai Tokerau Hone Harawira.  Now we have Slater writing a pro-Te Ururoa Flavell article on his website, Whale...
    Mana | 02-09
  • The success of right-wing counter messaging in the election
    One of the reasons National won the election was due to its success in counter messaging – and the way so many media commentators ran with th the right-wing spin. Here are some examples. Dirty Politics The original message was...
    The Daily Blog | 22-09
  • New Flag competition
    New Flag competition...
    The Daily Blog | 21-09
  • No time for self-pity
    After 23 meetings across the largest non-Maori electorate in the country – almost all of which went fantastically, approx 4,500km on the odometer, positive MSM and social media coverage, and polling well, I admit my team and I headed to...
    The Daily Blog | 21-09
  • The 30 second speech that could have saved the Moment of Truth
    As the dust settles and we struggle to understand what the bloody hell happened on Saturday, many point to Kim’s failure at the Moment of Truth to present his evidence. I think that Kim was poorly advised and that politics requires a...
    The Daily Blog | 21-09
  • Internet MANA and the 2014 election
    It was always going to be a hard task for Hone Harawira to hold onto his Te Tai Tokerau seat when the political establishment united in a coalition to defeat him and the chance for Internet MANA to bring more...
    The Daily Blog | 21-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Pat O’Dea – Unity in Action
    Yes the Left have taken a drubbing, but never mind, time to pick ourselves up off the floor, patch up our wound pride, dust ourselves off, cast around for our friends and allies, and re-enter the fray. Lots of work...
    The Daily Blog | 21-09
  • A Fiji democratic mandate for the coup leader – what now for the media?
    Attorney-General Sayad-Khaiyum and Rear-Admiral (Ret) Voreqe Bainimarama’s Fiji First party is poised to lead the country in the next four years. Photo: Mads Anneberg, an AUT Pacific Media Centre student on internship in Suva with Repúblika Magazine and Pacific Scoop...
    The Daily Blog | 21-09
  • Why I voted Labour and why 2017 will be different
    As a 3nd and 5th generation Kiwi-Indian (depending on which side of the family we have to go with), my relationship with New Zealand is a special one. Like other New Zealanders who are not of the Caucasian variety, the...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Humble Pie
    Oh. My. God. This was a heartbreaking nightmare. I was wrong, horribly, horribly, horribly wrong. I honestly believed that the resources, the media attention, the vile toxic politics exposed by Dirty Politics and the mass surveillance lies would have seen...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Election 2014; A Post-mortem; a Wake; and one helluva hang-over
    .   . It would be fair to say that the results for Election 2014 did not go as anticipated. The Left has had a drubbing – and some of it was of our own making. In other aspects, there...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Voting turnout affected by bad weather?
    . . NZ, Upper Hutt, 20 September –  Cold, wet weather in the Hutt Valley, north of Wellington may be impacting on voter turn-out. A head-count of people visiting the Trentham School Voting Station in Moonshine Rd, Upper Hutt, indicated...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Final total of advance voting
    And the final total for the advance voting was a staggering 717,579 advance votes against 334,558 in 2011       Tonight, I’ll be watching the TV3 election coverage because I could bare Paul Henry’s smugness one inch more than Mike Hosking’s...
    The Daily Blog | 20-09
  • Vice article on NZ election
    Here is my Vice article on the NZ election....
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • The attempt to kill off Internet MANA
    It’s the last day of campaigning today and the long list of those attacking Internet MANA got longer yesterday with Winston Peters backing Labour candidate Kelvin Davis against the MANA Movement’s Hone Harawira. Davis is now supported by Labour, National,...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • A final word on the election – it’s now all up to you
    Brothers & Sisters, the fate of Aotearoa is now all in your hands. We here at the Daily Blog have thrown everything we can at this bloody Government and have spent every waking hour of this campaign trying to highlight...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – ...
    I can’t tell what is National Party advert and what is the NZ Herald – but then again, I never could...
    The Daily Blog | 19-09
  • TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why Nati...
    TVNZ election coverage – white people telling other white people why National Party is great...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • REVIEW: Royals of Kihikihi
    What an absolutely stunning show.  I had to ask twice to check I’d heard right that this is the first staged production for Samuel Christopher, who also played a raw, real, but vulnerable, Wolf Royal, home from London for his...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • 800 Cops to detain 15 ‘terrorists’ – why Australia’s hysterical Isl...
    I’m sorry but I can’t take this current Australian terror threat seriously. 800 cops to detain 15 people and arrest one of them? A week after Abbot decides to send in Australian forces to the cluster fuck of Iraq, suddenly...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Unbelievable corruption inside Government to attack Kim Dotcom
    The corruption inside this Government just more and more filthy – we now have an ex-Customs Lawyer quitting  after being told to bury information that could embarrass the Government, specifically to do with Kim Dotcom… Curtis Gregorash said he was told...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Everyone Loves A Win-Win That Keeps G...
      Permit me to quote some figures at you… -68% of New Zealanders think political news on television focuses too much on politicians’ personalities and not enough on real issues. This is the key result of a recent UMR survey commissioned by...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of ...
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today, another week of being the most in demand broadcaster in the country...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • EXCLUSIVE: Te Tai Tokerau independent poll (44% Hone-27% Kelvin) vs Maori T...
    The Te Tai Tokerau Maori TV poll on Monday this week painted a bleak picture for Internet MANA supporters, and it’s results have been seized upon by Labour, NZ First and even the Maori Party (who seem set once again...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The time for TPPA weasel words is over
    Almost every day of the election campaign there has been a policy announcement that would potentially run foul of what I understand is currently in the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA):  more constraints on foreign investment or investors … regulation of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • MELTDOWN – Maori Party turns on their own Te Tai Tokerau candidate – ag...
    The tensions are building in Te Tai Tokerau with the Maori Party on the verge of meltdown. Days out from the election, the Maori Party Executive has tried to heavy their own Te Tai Tokerau Electoral Committee and their own candidate, Te Hira Paenga,...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • We Can Change this Government
    We Can Change this Government – Mike Treen at the First Union stop work election meeting...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Election 2014: For and Against
    With the general election tomorrow, we have had a very noisy campaign but little sign that the electorate wishes for a fundamental change of governmental direction. This reflects in part the fact that the economic cycle is close to its decadal...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eye To Eye Uploaded: Martyn ‘Bomber’ Bradbury
    This interview was filmed a couple of weeks ago between Willie Jackson and myself, I was a tad off with my prediction of NZ First....
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The Donghua Liu Affair – The Players Revealed
      . . – Special investigation by Frank Macskasy & ‘Hercules‘ Speculation that the Beehive office of Immigration Minister, Michael Woodhouse, was behind the release of a letter linking Labour leader, David Cunliffe, with controversial Chinese businessman, Donghua Liu, is...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold NZ d...
    It should read ‘never stop spying’. As if you needed another reason to boycott Telecom/Spark – they sold us down the river to the US by allowing the Southern Cross cable to be tapped… The ability for US intelligence agencies...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • The NZ First-Labour Party attack strategy against Internet MANA better work
    The final days of the campaign are ticking down and Labour and NZ First are manoeuvring to kill off the Internet MANA Party by both backing Kelvin Davis for Te Tai Tokerau. It’s a risky gambit that they better pray to Christ...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Bill English’s latest insult to beneficiaries – apparently they are lik...
    National’s hatred towards the poor continues unabated as National desperately try to throw raw meat to their reactionary voter base in the hope to inspire enough hate and loathing to win back their redneck voters from the Conservative Party and from...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Eminem ain’t happy with John Key
    Eminem ain’t happy with John Key...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Key claims he did not inhale
    Key claims he did not inhale...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Final prediction on election result 2014
    What an election campaign. The character assassination of David Cunliffe kicked things off with the Herald on Sunday falsely claiming $100 00 bottles of wine, $15 000 books and $150 000 in donations  from a donor that turned out to be...
    The Daily Blog | 18-09
  • Live blog: Bainamarama takes commanding lead in Fiji elections
      Interview with Repúblika editor Ricardo Morris and Pacific Scoop’s Mads Anneberg. PACIFIC SCOOP TEAM By Ricardo Morris, Mads Anneberg, Alistar Kata and Biutoka Kacimaiwai in Suva WHILE the results are provisional at this stage, it is clear today that...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 5AA Australia: NZ Elections Two Days To Go! + Edward Snowden + Julian Assan...
    Recorded live on 18/09/14 – Captured Live on Ustream at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/multimedia-investments-ltd 5AA Australia’s Peter Godfrey and Selwyn Manning deliver their weekly bulletin: Across The Ditch. This week, they discuss the latest news as New Zealanders go to the polls on...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What has Colin Craig done for his Press Secretary to quit 2 days before ele...
    This is VERY strange.  Colin Craig’s Press Secretary Rachel McGregor, has quit 2 days before the election, allegedly telling ZB that Colin Craig was a “very manipulative man”. I’ve met Rachel many times in the past as Colin’s Press Secretary, she is...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” – A brief w...
    “If you want steak, go to the supermarket and buy steak,” said Key in the final leaders debate. Problem of course is that the 250 000 – 285 000 children living in poverty can not afford steak, milk, butter, eggs...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • National’s final bash of beneficiaries before the election
    On cue, whenever National feel threatened, they roll out a little bennie bash just to keep their redneck voter base happy. Nothing like a bit of raw meat policy to keep National voters focused on the evil threat solo parents...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • With All Of This In Mind, I Vote
    This is my last blog before the election and I really just want to speak from the heart. Right now in this country it seems to me that a lot of people consider the “essentials” in life to be simply...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Left has to vote strategically this election
    The dedication, loyalty, and tribalism of party politics means that sometimes the left lets itself down by not voting strategically. We all want our favoured party to get maximum votes, naturally, but the winner-takes-all approach doesn’t always suit multi-party left...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Dear NZ – as you enter the polling booth, stand up for your rights
    The last days before a NZ general election are a busy time as politicians make their pitch and party activists prepare to get out the vote. It is sort of weird watching from the distance of Europe the strangest election...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • What is Waihopai, John, if it isn’t a facility for “mass surveillance...
    John Key assured us on RNZ’s Nine to Noon programme yesterday that “In terms of the Fives Eyes data bases… yes New Zealand will contribute some information but not mass wholesale surveillance.” How does this square with the operation of the...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Mass Surveillance and the Banality of E...
    Renowned journalist and intellectual Hannah Arendt coined the phrase “the banality of evil” to describe the normalisation of genocide in Nazi Germany. I thought of her phrase when I was listening to Glenn Greenwald and other international whistle-blowers talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Election. Down. To. The. Wire
    Funny how last week it was John Key winning by 50%, now it’s neck and neck. I have always believed this election would be down to the wire and it is proving so. The flawed landline opinion polls the mainstream...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • 3rd Degree uses Whaleoil for story ideas as if Dirty Politics never happene...
    TV3s 3rd Degrees smear job on Kim Dotcom last night doesn’t bear much repeating. It was pretty pathetic journalism from a team who have brought us some great journalism in the past. It is sad to see 3rd Degree stooping...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Live blog: Bainimarama takes early lead in Fiji’s election
    Pacific Scoop’s Alistar Kata reports from yesterday’s voting. By Alistar Kata of Pacific Scoop in Suva Prime Minister Voreqe Bainimarama took an early lead in provisional results in the Fiji general election last night. With provisional results from 170 out...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • Has The NSA Constructed The Perfect PPP?
    Former intelligence analyst and whistleblower, Edward Snowden – speaking live to those gathered at the Auckland Town Hall on Monday September 17, 2014. Investigation by Selwyn Manning. THE PRIME MINISTER JOHN KEY’s admission on Wednesday that whistleblower Edward Snowden “may...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • No way – Key admits Snowden is right
    After claiming there was no middle ground. After claiming there was no mass surveillance. After calling Glenn Greenwald a henchman and a loser. After all the mainstream media pundits screamed at Kim’s decision to take his evidence to Parliamentary Privileges...
    The Daily Blog | 17-09
  • LGNZ congratulates National
    LGNZ congratulates National Local Government New Zealand (LGNZ) congratulates re-elected Prime Minister John Key and the National led government on winning their third consecutive term following Saturday’s general election. LGNZ President Lawrence Yule acknowledges...
    Scoop politics | 22-09
  • The Letter – 22 September 2014
    John Key’s win is historic. In the history of MMP elections – worldwide – ever – no government has won an absolute majority. MMP was imposed on Germany to make sure that country never had another Hitler. It is designed...
    Scoop politics | 22-09
  • Election Coverage – None Better Than Trans Tasman
    To get a steer on what was going to happen in the election - away from the histrionics of the mainstream coverage - the best place to go was The Main Report Group’s weekly political report Trans Tasman....
    Scoop politics | 22-09
  • Federated Farmers intemperate
    For the second time in a week Federated Farmers has made intemperate and provocative comments on environmental issues, says EDS....
    Scoop politics | 22-09
  • MP’s Stolen Items Recovered
    Following a complaint to Parliamentary Services today [ September 19 ], items which had been stolen from NZ First MP Andrew Williams’ Wellington parliamentary office have been recovered and returned....
    Scoop politics | 22-09
  • Election results bad news for those on benefits
    Beneficiary Advocate Kay Brereton says, “ The election result holds no good news for people on benefits, National campaigned successfully with their beneficiary bashing agenda, and will now believe their punitive treatment of beneficiaries has the support...
    Scoop politics | 22-09
  • Opportunity to progress water infrastructure
    “National’s re-election is an opportunity to develop the infrastructure New Zealand needs to provide surety of water for agriculture, town drinking water supply, waterways, recreational use and to future proof the country from climate change,” says Andrew...
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Wellington City joins the global call for 100% clean
    At 1:00 pm, residents and visitors of Wellington gathered at the summit of Mt Victoria to join the millions strong call for a 100% clean future....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Hikoi with us from Cape Reinga to Auckland Oil Conference!
    Monday 22 September 2014: Maori from different tribal areas along the western length of Northland are organising a hikoi starting on Saturday to a Government oil conference in Auckland to make sure that Norwegian oil giant Statoil gets the message:...
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Roy Morgan NZ Election Update With A Look At The Polls
    Roy Morgan NZ Election Update With A Look At The Polls National re-elected to third term with record high vote as Labour slumps to worst result in over 90 years...
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • National-led Government wins mandate for RMA reforms
    An unprecedented increase in support for the third-term National Party, the best electoral performance since 1899, has delivered a clear mandate for reform of the Resource Management Act says Federated Farmers. “Vital reforms to the RMA have...
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • New Zealand says no to Culture of Death
    Right to Life is pleased that the people of New Zealand have rejected a culture of death by refusing to elect a Labour/Green government that supported the decriminalisation of abortion....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Q + A – Steven Joyce
    CORIN Steven Joyce if we could start with how things are going to look now with your support partners. Can you just run us through, National can technically govern alone on what you’ve got at the moment, do you think...
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Q + A – Kelvin Davis
    SUSAN Well earlier this morning, just before we came to air in fact, Corin spoke to Kelvin Davis, one of the big winners of the night, the new MP for Te Tai Tokerau....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Q + A – David Cunliffe
    CORIN Joining me now is Labour Leader, David Cunliffe. Good morning to you Mr Cunliffe. This is a tough result for Labour, how much personal responsibility do you take for this....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Grey Power congratulates Key
    Grey Power National President Terry King congratulated John Key for his party’s “resounding win “ in yesterday’s election and hoped that the new National Government would look hard at issues affecting the ever–growing number of older New Zealanders....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • EMA congratulates PM John Key and National
    The Employers and Manufacturers Association extend hearty congratulations to the re-election of Prime Minister John Key and National....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • Helen Clark Receives Inaugural Women’s Health Rights Award
    Helen Clark was honoured as the first recipient of the Women’s Health Rights Award at the 121st Woman’s Suffrage event held in Auckland....
    Scoop politics | 21-09
  • National deal with New Zealand First unlikely
    The National party is unlikely to offer a confidence and supply agreement to New Zealand First according to Dr Ryan Malone, Director Training and Research at Civicsquare....
    Scoop politics | 20-09
  • Daily Election Update #12: NZ First to hold balance of power
    Winston Peters’ NZ First Party will hold the balance of power after tomorrow’s election, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict. Mr Peters is then expected to back a National-led...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election Day is Time to Refocus on Policies
    Over the course of this election campaign there has been a lot of focus on dirty politics and spying, and not a lot on policy. With election day looming, Gareth Morgan is calling for people to refocus on the issues....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • The Kiwi FM Alternative Election Commentary
    Saturday 20 September from 7pm on 102.2 Auckland, 102.1 Wellington, 102.5 Canterbury, or KiwiFM.co.nz...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Beneficiary Bashing unacceptable
    Kay Brereton of the Beneficiary Advocacy Federation of New Zealand says “ the comment made by Bill English yesterday comparing beneficiaries to crack addicts is shocking and incredibly poorly timed.”...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • UN Experience Beneficial
    Acclaim Otago representatives have just completed their participation at the UN Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disability examination of the New Zealand government in Geneva, Switzerland. "It was an interesting two days which we believe has...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Changing face of NZ should be reflected in newsrooms
    With Fairfax Media’s Journalism Intern search closing on Sunday, Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy is urging aspiring journalists from Maori, Pacific and ethnic communities to apply. The deadline was recently extended to 10pm, Sunday...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • SPCA expresses concern over toxin in waterways
    Ric Odom CEO of Royal NZ SPCA has expressed concern over the toxic poison 1080 entering waterways, but DoC, Council’s and Ministry of Health have colluded to make it legal....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ 2014 Election Index – 13-18 September
    Below is iSentia’s final weekly Election Index, covering the period 13-18 September and showing the relative amount of coverage of nine Party Leaders in the lead up to the National Election across news media and social media. The methodology used...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Epsom Candidate (Adam Holland) More Liberal Than ACT
    For the past four years I, like 500,000 other New Zealanders, have been illegally smoking cannabis for medicinal purposes and/or even just for the occasional laugh with friends on the weekend. We don't hurt anybody, we don't cause nuisance, we...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Left Coalition Will Save Dolphins
    A left coalition would safeguard both Māui and Hector’s dolphins, as well as revive our inshore ecosystems. Labour, Internet Mana and the Green Party all have strong policies in place for dolphin protection. The Maori Party, and to a certain...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Waihoroi Shortland: Ngāti Hine is not standing alone
    The Chairman of Te Rūnanga a Iwi o Ngāpuhi, Sonny Tau is blowing smoke worthy of a Dotcom rally with claims that Ngati Hine is standing alone in its opposition to Tūhoronuku says the Chairman of Te Rūnanga o Ngati...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Oceania voices on environment loud and strong
    While money and energy continues to be spent on global talks about climate change, Pacific islanders are scrambling to build sea walls out of sticks, stones, shells and coral, to protect their lands and homes from erosion and rising sea...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunket – Tonight
    No MPs tonight --- the campaign will be over at 9 30. Instead we will look back --- and possibly forward on what we have learned and what might happen. Listener Political Columnist Jane Clifton Editor in Chief, NZ Herald,...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Election fails to address youth financial wellbeing
    Young people don’t feel included in New Zealand’s financial success and believe inequality is a problem, according to a new survey conducted by Westpac’s Fin-Ed Centre at Massey University....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Winston’s Waffle doesn’t hide the facts
    The Conservative Party is celebrating the ASA's finding announced today that rejected all but one of the complaints raised against its controversial “Conservatives or Peters” pamphlet. “Despite pages of complaints from Peters legal team the only...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • NZ Independent Coalition looking forward to tomorrow
    “Our team is looking forward to tomorrow. It is a real opportunity to reclaim politics for the people,” said NZ Independent Coalition leader Brendan Horan....
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Insights Issue 35/2014 – 19 September 2014
    Insights Issue 35/2014 - 19 September 2014 In This Issue • RMA reform the golden unicorn of policy | Jenesa Jeram...
    Scoop politics | 19-09
  • Special voting arrangements made for NIWA crew
    One of the most unusual polling stations for this year’s general election is in the middle of the ocean miles from land. NIWA’s flagship research vessel Tangaroa, has been doubling as a polling booth for crew and scientists at sea....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Tourism operators urged to vote strategically
    Tourism operators should make sure they know their local candidates’ view on tourism and use their vote to support the country’s second largest export industry, says Chris Roberts, Chief Executive, Tourism Industry Association New Zealand (TIA)....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • WGTN: March for free education
    We are students, university staff, and members of the community. Whichever parties form a government after September 20th, we are demanding an end to corporatisation of education....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Evidence of Corruption a National Scandal
    Internet Party leader Laila Harré will take evidence of corruption to international forums if there is not a full Royal Commission to investigate the growing evidence of the systematic use and abuse of democratic institutions and processes for political...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Govt continues to throw money at charter school experiment
    Official documents reveal the three primary sector charter schools approved last week will cost $2 million to set up as well as divert another $1.5 million of potential taxpayer investment from local state schools next year....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • ACT Final Election Rally
    Elections campaigns are an opportunity for political parties to put candidates and policy to enable voters to choose what sort of New Zealand we want. In this campaign there have been three tests by which you can assess the electoral...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Taxpayers on Hook Again for Solid Energy
    Responding to the Fairfax article that taxpayers are extending another $103 million to keep Solid Energy afloat, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Invermay Petition Tops 10,000 Signatures
    People across New Zealand continue to express their disgust at the downgrading of Invermay, says Dunedin North MP David Clark, as the Save Invermay petition he instigated earlier this year topped the 10,000 signature mark just days before the 2014...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • McVicar vows to continue fight for police
    Garth McVicar stated at a public meeting last week that he would fight to retain a 24/7 Police Station in Napier and no reduction in the number of police staff for the Hawkes Bay region, some said he was simply...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Party Vote Our Weapon in Fight Against Government Corruption
    Internet MANA urges New Zealanders to use their party vote to confront corruption in any new government....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Election day is tomorrow – make sure you’re a part of it!
    Tomorrow, Saturday 20 September, is election day, and New Zealanders’ last chance to have a say on who leads the country for the next three years....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Is the Shape of our Government out of the hands of Voters?
    In the last stuff.co.nz / Ipsos Political Poll before Saturdays election, National is down 5.1% to 47.7% and Labour up 3.7% to 26.15%. These results are remarkably similar to the 2011 election where National received 47.3% of the vote and...
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Spirit of Suffrage a Call to Action for All Kiwi Women
    Internet MANA is drawing on the courage and integrity of New Zealand women on Suffrage Day – Friday, September, 19 – to encourage them to pay tribute to the spirit of their foremothers who gained women the vote....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
  • Live Election Night Coverage on TV And Online
    Māori Television’s KOWHIRI 2014 – ELECTION SPECIAL kicks off at 7.00pm this Saturday with a five-hour broadcast focusing on the Māori electorates....
    Scoop politics | 18-09
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