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Scoop and Whaleoil, a tale of two websites

Written By: - Date published: 6:50 am, January 18th, 2014 - 134 comments
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Recent events have refocussed attention on new media and how political blogsites relate to conventional concepts of media.  And the response by two different websites highlights some very interesting issues.

Over at Scoop former chief reporter Alaistair Thompson has either resigned or taken a sabbatical so that he can become involved in Kim Dotcom’s Internet party.  The precise terms of his leave will need to be resolved.

Fellow Scooper Gordon Campbell has expressed sadness if it is a resignation and correctly describes Scoop as being “the flagship for alternative journalism in New Zealand for nearly 15 years”.

Campbell notes that Scoop has struggled financially.  This appears to be a recurring theme for media, especially alternative media, in New Zealand.  The market is just too small for most media to be profitable.

Campbell then says this:

For those of us connected with Scoop who watched the debacle unfold yesterday – and like everyone else, we did so by reading about it online – the details were alarming. It is painful to draw attention to them because Al’s entrepreneurial drive has been essential to sustaining Scoop as a forum of ideas ; but equally, it is impossible to condone a media outlet signing up the domain name of a political party, while reporting on political events. Al was an associate member of the press gallery. He also had an administrative role with Scoop that required him to generate new business for the site. Some hats that would be shared around in a traditional news organisation were worn by Al alone: such are the economic realities of Web publishing. These multiple roles always had the potential for conflicts of interest in both the political and business coverage.

For a news outlet however, a political client is not just another business client. Especially in an election year, any potential conflicts had to be identified and dealt with beforehand in a way that maintained the necessary distance. Instead, the boundaries in this case were actively blurred.

He concludes that the registration of the domain name for the Internet Party was indefensible and Thompson had no choice but to go.

Cameron Slater broke the news with his usual class.  He stated that Scoop was no longer independent and said that both Martyn Bradbury and Alastair Thompson have “many questions to answer about their blurring the lines between media and political activism in such and egregious and underhanded way.” (sp)

I laughed when I read this.  Slater’s blog is full of the most extreme right wing political views.  There are various allegations about how he received funds to promote candidates seeking selection for National Party Electorates and there is that defamation suit commenced by Matthew Blomfield against Slater where he has alleged Slater published blog posts at the behest of a third party for money.

Interestingly Slater is off to the High Court next month to try and establish that his blogsite is media for the purposes of protecting the confidentiality of his sources.  As a matter of legal interpretation I thought that his argument had merit and I was and am worried about the effect of the precedent.  But the irony is strong.  Slater has trampled on any concept of a blog site being politically neutral and it is rather rich for him to criticise Thompson and Bradbury for doing the same.

But this does raise interesting issues on the funding of blogs.  It is clear that Kiwiblog and Whaleoil are well funded and resourced.  Bradbury has been open about the funding for the Daily Blog.  There are various conspiracies about how the Standard is funded by the copious amounts of money that the Labour Party and the Trade Union movement have spare and I wish this was true … The Standard is IMHO the product of a group of dedicated amateurs and if payments are being made then I want to know what is happening to my share!  And this is the preferable model in many respects.

It is fascinating how Dotcom’s money is causing havoc everywhere it is spent.  He has previously caused havoc amongst the ranks of ACT and National through his donation to Banks and now has caused significant disruption to the proudly independent Scoop media organisation.

In an ideal world ordinary people would be paid sufficiently well and would have sufficient spare time that they could meet and organise and fundraise and discuss politics so that the offer of easy money was something that could be declined.  And independent media would be properly funded.

134 comments on “Scoop and Whaleoil, a tale of two websites”

  1. Steve Wrathall 1

    “And independent media would be properly funded….” by whom? The govt of the day? That would make them really keen to challenge the statist agenda of their paymasters. Yup.

  2. If Kiwiblog is well funded or resourced, that is news to me.

    It generates a small amount of advertising revenue, which works out at around 10% of a living wage based on the hours I spend on it.

    Kiwiblog receives no income from anyone except for advertisements that are clearly marked as such. Also I don’t receive any money from anyone to spend time on Kiwiblog. In fact I would make much much more money if I didn’t blog.

    • bad12 2.1

      As we are mostly not Parliamentarians here your statement can only be taken at it’s word with the provision of proof…

    • karol 2.2

      And your business that is your livelihood, while also enabling you to be able to afford to spend some unpaid time on Kiwiblog?

      I would also differentiate how the Whale O blog operates from that of Kiwiblog.

      • David Farrar 2.2.1

        I own and direct a market research company. This also takes up a lot of time. Luckily I also have some very good staff who do a lot for me. I am also on a couple of boards. This is all in my disclosure statement.

        • Jackal 2.2.1.1

          May I ask who some of your clients are then that utilize Curia to undertake polling, focus groups and receive communications advice etc? Don’t tell me you’re using that income to directly fund Kiwiblog, which is by all accounts a propaganda tool for the right wing? Wouldn’t that essentially mean those (I presume right wing clients) are resourcing Kiwiblog? Furthermore, how much funding does Curia receive because of the disinformation you publish on Kiwiblog?

          I recall Cameron Slater making similar denials about where his funding comes from just before proof emerged that his opinion can be purchased.

          • David Farrar 2.2.1.1.1

            The disclosure statement lists clients who have publicly said they use Curia. People pay Curia for polls, surveys and focus groups. No one has ever paid Curia or me to blog something (except as a disclosed paid ad) or to blog generally. I was publishing my views online eight years before I set up Curia.

            Having a public profile through blogging has in fact put many potential clients off Curia. I would make much much more money if I did not blog.

            • Jackal 2.2.1.1.1.1

              That is amusing considering the list of those who have openly used your services at Curia, including the National Party, Family First, John Banks, Exceltium (Matthew Hooton), just to name a few idiots, in many cases also receive a large amount of unwarranted promotion by you over at Kiwibog.

              You’re not an independent blogger David Farrar by any stretch of the imagination.

              • Paul

                I don’t mind Farrar not being independent. I just don’t appreciate it when he’s described as a blogger on the corporate media, without revealing his many links to the National Party.
                It is also an indictment of the corporate media that they simply repeat his stories and memes without dealing with the extreme right wing bias to his selection and colouring of news.

        • vto 2.2.1.2

          Political clients pay you money at Curia, which enables you to spend time blogging their politics at Kiwiblog.

          It aint nothing new – it is as old as the hills. That you appear to deny it merely highlights it further.

          Compromised through and through.

        • Awhina McGrath 2.2.1.3

          You are also so right of right, that you admitted signing the referendum multiple times to disrupt democratic process. That is my disclosure.

    • Jackal 2.3

      It seems strange that you’re funding your own blog Farrar. How exactly do you pay for your numerous trips overseas if you’re essentially working for free and full time on a right wing blog site?

    • come on..!..mr farrar..!

      ..we aren’t that stoopid..eh..?

      ..yr propaganda-organ is part of the (if unspoken) package-deal you offer national/the right..

      ..and that is what gets you all of that gummint-money..

      ..you work that trough like a pro…

      ..kiwiblog is unfunded..(yeah..right..)

      ..and i work part-time as the fucken tooth-fairy..eh..?

      ..phillip ure..

      • phillip ure 2.4.1

        and while you are here..mr farrar..

        ..perhaps you could tell us why kiwiblog is so often on the wrong side of history..

        ..eh..?

        ..from yr g.f.c.-denials…all the way through..eh..?

        ..and how about the vile campaigns of benificiary-bashing you have run/fostered/engendered at yr propaganda-organ..and that you have run since..oh..!..forever..!..?

        ..you are like new zealands’ goebbels..farrar..(and just fuck off..!..godwin..!..with yr stupid rule..)

        ..the parallels are potent..

        ..you have fostered (very successful) campaigns of hatred/stigmatising against the weakest/poorest/sickest new zealanders..

        .(who can forget ‘tania heke’..eh..?..that fake-(maori of course..eh..?)..benificiary-‘bludger’ you ‘featured on yr blog..

        ..with those made up tales of ‘tania’ and her other bludging benificary-mates..

        ..sitting on the deck..drinking..waiting for the takeaway pizzas to arrive..and laughing at their ‘mug’ neighbours..as they drove off to work..

        ..and that was all lies/made-up..wasn’t it farrar..?

        ..now you tell me/us how that is any different from the anti-semitic-poison goebbels flooded germany with..eh..?

        ..with the same intention..to create a scapegoat..

        ..then there is yr boast of how you stood at the shoulder of richardson going ‘cut more..!..cut more..!)..as she wrote her mother-of-all-budgets..eh..?..

        ..there is nobody in new zealands’ history who has been more of a monger of hatred than you..farrar..

        ..go on..!..name one..!..

        ..then there are all the lies you have peddled for that other black-propagandist..mcvicar..

        ..i could go on and on..

        phillip ure..

        • phillip ure 2.4.1.1

          edit:..to fourth line from bottom..

          ..should read ‘more successful as a monger of hatred’..etc..

          ..of course there are individuals who are not as ‘subtle’ in their words as you are/attempt..

          ..they let it all hang out..

          ..and funny story..!

          ..most of those fucked-individuals cluster around yr blacl-propaganda-organ..eh..?

          ..do you ever wonder why that is..?

          ..phillip ure..

      • Will@Welly 2.4.2

        Stop it phillip, the laughter is hurting my rib cage.

    • Te Reo Putake 2.5

      Hi, David. Is it true that the National Party threatened to kill Curia if you didn’t toe the line on the Chorus bailout? If so, how independent do you think the National Party thinks you are?

      • David Farrar 2.5.1

        No it isn’t true.

        And the fact Kiwiblog joined a coalition that actively opposed a Government proposal (and successful defeated it) speaks for itself in terms of independence. Also note that there was no financial advantage to me in joining the coalition (unlike some of the ISPs). I joined purely because I thought what the Government was proposing to do was wrong.

        • Te Reo Putake 2.5.1.1

          So, no approach at all? No emails, no calls, no quiet word in your ear that it might be better for you to back off? Seems most unlike the bullying Government we’ve come to know and loathe. I only ask because I’m told you’ve been telling people that this actually happened. I’m happy to take your word for it, but others may be more cynical.

          • Rhinocrates 2.5.1.1.1

            Methinks the Penguin doth protest too much.

            He’s like Hoots – you can tell he’s lying because his lips move. Kiwibog is a troll farm, fostering racist filth and the Penguin feeds them deliberately. He’s a nasty, mercenary, lying stooge.

            There are a lot of stories floating about Wellington telling of his treatment of prostitutes as well…. I don’t know if they’re true, so I won’t repeat them.

            This I do know is true: he once allowed – some would say incited – his trolls in his sewer to stalk and threaten the young children of a friend of mine who dared to criticise him. She later attempted suicide.

            No one should be under any illusions about what a thug and liar the evil little bastard is.

            He’s not “streets ahead” of Whalecum – he’s just the same kind of filth but greasier.

            • Murray Olsen 2.5.1.1.1.1

              The well dressed, outwardly respectable ones are often dirtier than the black tshirt wearers. Your comment does not surprise me at all, Rhino.

            • Scott Chris 2.5.1.1.1.2

              Wow, and what does this post say about its poster. You’ll be calling him a pedo next. Classy.

              • Pascal's bookie

                I’ve not heard anyone accuse him of that, but he does think it’s funny to dress like one for parties.

            • Onlooker 2.5.1.1.1.3

              If, as you say, this man is an unpleasant model of his species – how come he has so many highly respectable and educated friends surrounding and supporting him? If he was is as bad as you make out his peer group would surely have ostracised him.

              But then, all you have is stories from your peers, no facts, no proof. Tell a lielo big enough etc etc. etc. – used by so many enemies to try and bring a good man down. Have seen it all before!

              Would you like to inform us exactly who the children that David asked his followers to pick on and threaten and the name of the mother that later attempted suicide (which could have been related to an entirely different incident) altho’ you place it in the same sentence to try and make it seem it was because of what happened to her children. Tried and true tactics of the left for decades.We know those tactics too.

              So, out with the truth seeing as the general public was not made aware of it at the time – whose children did a certain NZ citizen have stalked and threatened? And would this action not have brought police intervention if it was fact?

              [lprent: The difficulty is that if whoever you're replying to did provide date and time facts, then in all likelihood I or another moderator would have to squelch it as being likely to be a defamatory. A "fact" that we couldn't check ourselves before publication putting the site at risk. Similarly if he mentioned the name of the woman then I'd probably have to squelch it as violating their privacy - they and their children are not public figures.

              However Rhino stuck to interpretation, rumour and opinion. The only real way for Rhino to put those allegations on this site in more than general terms is to provide links. In the case of the woman and her kids I'd probably then remove the link for the same reasons above.

              So your demand is unreasonable. Don't persist in making it.

              On the other hand, like this post, it isn't hard to find some dubious dog whistling that DPF has done over the years. For instance we all learnt from him the extent to which you could denigrate politicians not on what they do, but on insinuating what they could have been doing. Of course over the years none but Cameron went further than him in being a misogynist arsehole dogwhistling for the most moronic wankers in society. ]

            • thecard 2.5.1.1.1.4

              Wow Rhinocrates have you got anymore dirt on Farrar ?

              In between the poor treatment of prostitutes and stalking and threatening kids it sounds ;like you should be making a complaint to the local cop shop or at least leak some of the information to the media on the quiet so they can take him down.

  3. bad12 3

    Right on the money with your comments about Blubber Boy and the blog ‘Wail Oil’ but after that we definitely have diverse opinions over ‘Scoops’ Thompson,

    My question to anyone slating Thompson is firstly please show me which articles supporting the Internet Party did Thompson either author or cause to be published by Scoop in the period when He is alleged to have been compromised,(thus far wherever i have put that question the answer has been a resounding silence),

    What i refuse to contemplate for more than a mere second is that we on the left will ever dance to any tune blown by ‘Wail Oil’s’ King of filth Blubber Boy, and with this particular publication of this leak He offers up a fracturing of what admittedly is at this point a minor flake in the wall of leftist solidarity and many of us happily leap to the floor and dance like crazy???,

    (Dont take the above as a criticism MS we should be discussing Thompson’s actions and motives in minute detail),

    My point being with reference to dancing to the King of Filth’s tune is that i firmly believe that at the point where whatever His future position and/or work/employment/candidacy was confirmed with an actual registered Internet Party Thompson would have Himself made a full public disclosure and given his resignation publicly from His position(s) with Scoop,

    So if not for ‘the leak’ and it’s subsequent publication what heinous wrong has Thompson really committed, and i would ask anyone to consider that against a background where this proposed Internet Party had as yet no officials, was not registered, and had as yet not been ‘officially launched’, even at this point the Internet Party remains simply a ‘proposal’,

    Next i have to ask are we not being just a little ‘precious’ in demanding from the likes of Thompson what appears to be a straight-jacket of correctness,

    When we consider the above, have a wee think about the largest newspaper in the country when it comes to either ‘opinion’ or political reporting, i would suggest that the Herald prints 90% in favor of the National Party, other than the wing-nuts, is there any major disagreement from any here at the Standard that such a proposition is untrue,

    Most of us, in my opinion would even tho there is no concrete evidence of this,(except for what is actually printed) have a firm belief that the Herald has an editorial policy that its opinion and political writers will favor the National Party,

    When i see printed along with Every political and opinion piece produced by that newspaper a disclaimer from the editor that their policy is to favor the National Party, then and only then will i for one dance upon the floor demanding ‘higher standards’ from any journalist managing to be published while writing in favor of ‘the left’…

    • Te Reo Putake 3.1

      “My question to anyone slating Thompson is firstly please show me which articles supporting the Internet Party did Thompson either author or cause to be published by Scoop in the period when He is alleged to have been compromised,(thus far wherever i have put that question the answer has been a resounding silence),”

      The silence is because your question makes no sense. If you read the post you’ll find a quote from Gordon Campbell. He explains the problem precisely.

      • bad12 3.1.1

        TRP,if my question makes no sense to you, gee sorry, most people can see exactly what the question asks, perhaps you are just to dense to make sense of it…

  4. Tracey 4

    Well written mickey. Had the same thoughts as you.

    National and act pay well enough that it seems their secrets are harder to crack.

    Is cactus kate a member of act party?

  5. karol 5

    micky: It is fascinating how Dotcom’s money is causing havoc everywhere it is spent. He has previously caused havoc amongst the ranks of ACT and National through his donation to Banks and now has caused significant disruption to the proudly independent Scoop media organisation.

    I also have some concerns about the way Dotcom uses money to buy influence and power.

    Independant media can be funded well, by public means, if there are safeguards against political or financial interference built into it’s construction and operating procedures.

    • Jan Rivers 5.1

      The Government had a perfect opportunity, but failed to legislate last year, to create a single media standards regime for all media – web, print, radio and television to overcome the very issue of identifying which publishing should be bound by formal standards. The Law Commission Report ‘The news media meets ‘new media’ (http://r128.publications.lawcom.govt.nz/Summary/Key+conclusions) was published in March 2013 and its recommendations included recognising media consolidation and convergence and the lowered barriers to web-based publishing and specifically to:

      – recognise and protect the special status of the news media, regardless of their size or commercial status, are able to access the legal privileges and exemptions available to these publishers;
      – ensure that those entities accessing the news media’s special legal status are held accountable for exercising their power ethically and responsibly;
      – provide citizens with an effective and meaningful means of redress when those standards are breached
      – signal to the public which publishers they can rely on as sources of news and information.”

      The Government takes time to respond to Law Commission reports and in September the relevant Ministers reported that they had bit.ly/1jd2q70 “decided not to act” saying that in NZ there had been no crisis of confidence in the media (as there had in the UK with the Leveson enquiry).

      When a government ignores the recommendations of the neutral and disinterested body empowered to advise on keeping legislation relevant (on our behalf ) as well as the submissions of dozens of organisations and individuals to.http://bit.ly/1cECZph it is a small but significant dent in our democratic resilience and the quality of our governance.

  6. Yoza 6

    Campbell’s treatment of Alastair Thompson’s decision to join the Dotcom snowball serves to illustrate the stridently independent narrative Scoop has created. Next to Gordon Campbell people like Cameron Slater are highlighted as gibbering fools.

    I do not fear the Dotcom political agenda as those involving themselves with him in his foray into the New Zealand political landscape would necessarily be obliged to jump ship immediately if their reputations were threatened by any lurch toward the Randian lunacy on which the ACT party was founded.

    This whole Dotcom saga has done an excellent job of presenting the gulf between representative democracy and participatory democracy to the marginalised young. I’m not saying Dotcom is a champion of the latter (I don’t follow him closely enough to have the slightest inkling of what are his political views), but the way representative democracy is presented in contrast to the manner in which it is practiced is utterly corrupt. We are not going to vote ourselves to a civilised society, as Emma Goldman famously said, “If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal.” – the parliamentary system we have is specifically designed to prevent popular participation in the decision making process.
    However, the better people understand the democratic deficit inherent in our system of representation the sooner we will move to a genuinely democratic form of social organisation. If KDC can add to this understanding all the better.

    • Chooky 6.1

      +1 Yoza….interesting ….Emma Goldman being the famous anarchist theorist … from an American I was given her hardback book ‘Anarchism and other Theories’….I felt very privileged because it was his Bible and she is very trenchant.

      I could never make my mind up about Anarchism….imo it seems either incredibly astute in its critique of democracy under capitalism or incredibly naive about how it can go about achieving its idealistic ends without using ‘democracy’ and voting ….I swing from one view to the other…In the end I value the vote because it was so hard for women and other oppressed minorities to win.

      I like your analysis…I also dont fear Dotcom and at this stage value his pull in getting youth to think about voting and participating in the ‘democratic’ process….at least they will be participating in their own political education…..instead of being alienated, cynical or apathetic bystanders

      … nor am I critical of Bradbury and Thompson….they should be trusted on their own background histories to make a good call.

    • SHG (not Colonial Viper) 6.2

      the stridently independent narrative Scoop has created…

      Note: the registrant of the Internet Party’s domain names is not Alastair Thompson – it’s Scoop Media Limited.

      From the WHOIS:

      registrant_contact_name: Scoop Media Limited
      registrant_contact_address1: 29 Brandon Street
      registrant_contact_city: Wellington

  7. irascible 7

    Interesting to note , from the links in this article, that along with Lusk & Slater a certain Jordan Williams, of the “Taxpayers’ Union”, is involved in the organisation of Collins faction. Certainly demonstrates the bias and connections of this “Voice of the Little People” group providing ammunition for the National-Act prejudice feeders.

  8. philj 8

    This relates to the huge vacuum that is our lack of quality Public Broadcasting. Radio New Zealand is not as independent as it was, TVNZ is an expensive sick joke. I take my hat off to Al Thompson and even Bomber for their energy and commitment. We need both qualities in our country.

  9. Colonial Viper 9

    To DPF: thanks for dropping by and making your comments on The Standard.

    • tinfoilhat 9.1

      You know what I agree, I don’t agree with his politics but good on him for fronting and giving a simple response to some of the baiting.

      • newsense 9.1.1

        +1

        he’s occasionally partisan and pushes a line, but mostly a well respected member of the blogosphere, even if the way he allows some of the comments to run isn’t. Streets ahead of Slater

        • idlegus 9.1.1.1

          on farrars facebook page he put up a link to the recent murders in dunedin (dad & his 2 children), with a joke “Just out of interest, does anyone know where the Bain honeymoon was? :smile: “.

          i now i know, us lefties just can’t take a joke, but fuck that. i disagree that he’s ‘streets ahead’ of whale oil.

    • @ viper..

      ..ew..!

      ..just..ew..!

      ..and..why..?

      ..(and you can unpucker yr lips now..eh..?..he’s gone..)

      phillip ure..

      • QoT 9.2.1

        Seriously, a dude just says “hey thanks for dropping by” and in your head that translates to some massive, obsequious suck-up? You need more iron in your diet, mate.

        • Jackal 9.2.1.1

          Thanks for gracing us with your presence and taking the time to talk to us mere mortals is all a bit suck-up don’t you think QoT? Not that I’m saying Farrar shouldn’t, but acting like he’s doing us a favour by continuing to perpetuate his lies on The Standard is pretty weird!

          • Tim 9.2.1.1.1

            + fucking 1!
            You nail it! I just wish more people understood exactly what it is that “collective Left” are dealing with.
            For them – it comes naturally – for the “collective Left” we keep trying to make allowances for the likes of Farrar and his gun toting macho mates, because we’re often such utterly ‘nice’ people.
            Fuk ‘em!
            Sorry if that offends – but it needs to be said!
            And that probably sums up WHY KDC might end up having a certain appeal – which IF he does, we’ll all be standing around saying Quel Surpris /Quelle Surprise – or whatever the fuck it is.

            Actually, I have this idea that KDC could be a total prick …. but more likely he’s simply ‘irrideemably liberal’, and with a heart – not too unlike an Idiot/Savant – ya never know ( ….. eh? ) Could be why the Natzis are so bloody worried.

            • Tim 9.2.1.1.1.1

              Oh …. btw …. do you think we should cobble together a focus group to mull over the various possibilities?

          • QoT 9.2.1.1.2

            What CV actually said:

            To DPF: thanks for dropping by and making your comments on The Standard

            What Jackal says CV said:

            Thanks for gracing us with your presence and taking the time to talk to us mere mortals

            Yep, those are definitely identical statements. :roll:

            • phillip ure 9.2.1.1.2.1

              @ qot..

              ..yep..they are pretty much..the same

              ..different words..but same meanings/readings..

              ..phillip ure..

            • Jackal 9.2.1.1.2.2

              QoT

              Yep, those are definitely identical statements.

              If I were to quote CV directly QoT I would have used quotation marks like those exhibited above for your comment. Instead I’ve used italics to indicate a sarcastic parody of CV sucking up to David Farrar. Sorry if you failed to comprehend the subtle difference there between italics and quotation marks…perhaps some more iron in your diet is warranted?

              • QoT

                Dude, here’s the problem: I don’t particularly *like* Colonial Viper, we disagree on a huge amount, and for all that personal bias I still cannot see this terrible, total-sell-out, sucking up that you and phillip are seeing.

                David Farrar is a fucking vile human being himself, but you know what? By actually taking part in the comments here he’s shown himself to be a hell of a lot more willing to engage and answer challenges made to him than, say, Josie Pagani.

                • Colonial Viper

                  DPF ranking ahead of Josie Pagani. The juxtaposition is almost too much to bear.

                • Jackal

                  QoT

                  I still cannot see this terrible, total-sell-out, sucking up that you and phillip are seeing.

                  I don’t see CV thanking anybody else for commenting here QoT. Why is he/she giving Farrar special treatment if not to suck-up so to speak?

                  By actually taking part in the comments here…

                  Why on earth is there any kudos at all for somebody who has only commented here to try and perpetuate his falsehoods?

                  • Colonial Viper

                    Get over it mate. Politeness and appreciation are not crimes against the lefty bible.

                    • Jackal

                      I’m not reading from a lefty bible, just agreeing with phillip ure that you were being a suck-up CV. Claiming that you were simply being appreciative and polite while nobody else receives such courtesies seems a bit disingenuous!

                    • Colonial Viper

                      So you feel left out. Like I said. Get over it.

                    • Jackal

                      There’s nothing for me to get over and you’re not my mate CV. I don’t require you to kiss my arse to understand that you puckering up for a right wing blogger speaks volumes.

                    • mickysavage

                      Enough …

                      There is nothing wrong with civility being shown. Who knows you may be able to enter into a dialogue from which some benefit may occur.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Meh.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      Sorry MS that “meh” was meant for J. Can’t edit for some reason.

                    • Jackal

                      Farrar doesn’t deserve civility while he’s blatantly lying about being an “independent” blogger mickysavage, which has been my point all along.

                      When there’s an end to the disinformation, character assassinations, verbal diarrhea etc from the right wing and their propagandist bloggers, then the left should show them civility.

                    • jcuknz

                      I’m with you CV on this matter … the tone of most of this thread is the typical muckiness one unfortunately finds on blogs … it seems that blogs un-leash the worst phantasies of people.

                    • jcuknz

                      As I found over at Kiwiblog in my discussion with the entrenched rightwing over the ferry building it doesn’t matter what your arguments are you will not calm their zealousness except they were a bit more polite than I find in this thread with the foolish and ridiculous statements proliferating.

                      So it was good that you were gracious CV but in this climate unfortunately rather un-wise?

                      I guess we should offer a vote of thanks to both DPF and Lprent[ and associates ] for providing the outlets for the viciousness inherent in most of us when we do not control ourselves.

                      I wonder if it is not further proof of the diversiveness of the Left which causes so much splitting and loss of strength in the polls. We are all committed rather than pragmatic.

                    • tricledrown

                      i think CV was being Ironic as none absolutely no one on KB shows any civility to the left.
                      just outright bullies.
                      CV i just found out recently when candidate for Clutha Southland was threatened with violence on many occasions by National party supporters.
                      He kept his cool and carried the lefts message into Farrer whaleoil exclusive bretheren country.
                      CV should get a LBA lefty bravery award.

                  • QoT

                    Why is he/she giving Farrar special treatment if not to suck-up so to speak?

                    For a start, CV obviously uses male pronouns and you’ve been around long enough to know it.

                    And Farrar is not a regular commenter here. He’s also someone who doesn’t “need” to comment here as he has his own well-visited website if he really wanted to respond (again, compare with Josie Pagani.)

                    I’m not endorsing CV’s thanks, because frankly DPF is a shitty person who allows awful crap to be published in comments on his site yet tries to project this “just a nice guy, shucks” facade. But I simply have to register my :roll: at you and phillip turning a very simple, very straightforward comment from CV into some epic ideological betrayal.

                    • Jackal

                      I note that your comment doesn’t specifically answer the question you’ve quoted in italics QoT…why exactly has CV singled out David Farrar to thank for commenting?

                      Btw, thanks for saying our comments are epic, but it hasn’t been phillip ure or I who’ve carried on this debate. It has been yourself and to some extent CV. You both obviously suffer from a bad case of last word syndrome.

                      Resorting to criticizing the way we write and pathetically saying we are wrong without any real argument QoT is a big fail! So far I’ve not seen any comprehensible debate from you that would change my initial understanding that CV was being a big suck up.

              • @ jackal..;

                shouldn’t that be more ‘irony’ in the diet..?

                phillip ure..

        • phillip ure 9.2.1.2

          @ qot..

          ..it’s who he’s saying it to..

          ..and as he is an aspiring mp/beltway-insider..

          ..it is horrifying symptomatic of how farrar also so successfully ‘played’ labour during the clark years..

          ..he successfully straddled the ideological-trough/worked both sides of the room..

          ..and clark labourites seemed to be scared of him..

          ..vipers’ ‘yoo-hoo!..over here..!’…is so much more than just that..(and you know that..)

          ..and is it the phillip ure mote in yr eye..

          ..that leaves you leaping to ‘hear!..hear!’…this lifting of the skirt/winking @ farrar by viper..?

          ..eh..?

          ..quite the unedifying sight..eh..?

          ..especially for/from one who purports such as yrslf..

          ..eh..?

          phillip ure..

          • QoT 9.2.1.2.1

            I have literally no idea what the fuck you just said, phillip.

            • phillip ure 9.2.1.2.1.1

              can i suggest a dictionary..?

              ..is there anyone who could explain it to you..?

              phillip ure..

              • QoT

                Using full sentences and clearly explaining your ideas might help.

                • @ qot:..

                  that for me is the jumping the shark moment in any debate..

                  ..when the opposition only has sentence-structure (or lack of it.)…to come back at me with..

                  ..that’s when i know the debate is over/done and dusted..

                  ..and that i have won it..

                  ..phillip ure..

                  • McFlock

                    did you just claim pwnage?

                  • QoT

                    Yes, phillip. Once again you have “won”, because your personal definition of “winning” is clearly “rambled on meaninglessly until everyone gets frustrated and leaves/starts deleting my comments for being wildly offtopic”, at which point you claim that this vindicates whatever point it was you were trying to make.

          • xavier 9.2.1.2.2

            +1 exactly. they are cynical sycophants who identify more with mr farrar than with most labour members. labour, like many institutions world wide, projecting an illusion of change but it’s not real.

            • Colonial Viper 9.2.1.2.2.1

              Oh are you speaking to me? Calling me a “cynical sycophant” after I said thanks to DPF for commenting.

              Did I offend one of the commandments of the lefty bible by using politeness? Get over it mate.

              • @ c.v..

                ..can i ask who else you have verbalised yr ‘appreciation’ here to..?

                ..for them commenting..?

                ..and what exactly is it you ‘appreciate’ in/about farrar..?

                ..phillip ure..

                • Colonial Viper

                  Oh god, authoritarian lefties on their favourite past time. Hunting for fifth column traitors. Got your NKVD membership badge handy?

                  • QoT

                    Shit, I guess Martyn Bradbury was right about something. Sign of the Apocalypse?

                  • sorry..viper..

                    ..you expressed yr ‘appreciation’ of farrar..

                    ..and as you are an aspiring labour party mp..

                    ..it is totally disingenuous of you to cry ‘authoritarian lefties'(?)..

                    ..when asked just what it is you appreciate about that master-peddler of hate/lies..

                    ..so much so..you felt driven to give him a shout-out..(!)..

                    ..for those of us trying to end/undo the neo-lib consensus-waltz both lab/nat have had for the last 30 yrs..

                    ..yr insider wink is bordering on intolerable..

                    ..and just sets off alarm-bells as to you being any real agent of change..

                    ..you are showing yrslf up as more a ‘please please..can i come in..?..i’ll be a good boy..i promise..!’

                    ..and that you so easily resort to cold-war commie-hunting rhetoric..

                    ..(‘..NKVD membership badge’..(!?)..

                    ..only confirms that impression..

                    ..eh..?

                    ..of you as a neo-lib warrior..

                    ..in progressive drag..

                    ..(and did you ever answer that question i asked you..about yr apparant oil-company/drilling ‘pimping’..?

                    ..some clarification on that wd be appreciated..

                    ..eh..?..)

                    phillip ure..

              • xavier

                It was a bit overweening to chastise you for thanking the guy. But Farrar trades in disingenuous sophistry (labour plans to nationalise the power industry etc). If I was an aspiring labour mp that would just really irk me, but you’re just being your courteous self.

          • JK 9.2.1.2.3

            ” ..it is horrifying symptomatic of how farrar also so successfully ‘played’ labour during the clark years..

            ” ..he successfully straddled the ideological-trough/worked both sides of the room..

            ” ..and clark labourites seemed to be scared of him.. ”

            Philip – can you elaborate on the above aspect of your post, please

  10. captain hook 10

    so tell me one more time just so I will understand.
    who funds wail boil?

  11. Pascal's bookie 11

    I’ll just leave this here, if anyone can find any sort of disclosure statement in it, let me know:

    http://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2014/01/selection-season-upon-us/#more-123334

  12. Good on Thompson for a) joining Dotcom and 2) not sacrificing the brave record of Scoop by stepping down.
    re 1) not because Dotcom is our saviour but because he stands for personal freedom as a condition of making money. (More fool him but never mind he will discover that capitalism is its own worst enemy)
    His is a naively innocent capitalism of the naked entrepreneur that deserves to be put to the test so that it can be scrapped as a delusion, not by the cronies but by us.
    re 2) Scoop is not ‘independent’. It has to survive financially which means it cannot be ‘independent’ of making compromises with capitalism. True independence would mean identifying openly as representing the interests of anti-capitalism.
    That is where (1) leads, objectively, (independently of the will of Dotcom) and by choosing (1) Thompson can create a Mega Scoop (2) funded by an objectively anti-capitalist.

  13. captain hook 13

    I beg to differ. dotcom made his money stealing off the legitimate artists who created the music in the first place and then claiming that he had a right to do what he liked. Blubberguts wail boil is a different ketttle of fish altogether. He is a psychopath busy accusing others of the things he wants to do himself in the vain hope that he will deflect suspicion off his own private proclivities.

    • Colonial Viper 13.1

      Dotcom provided a file storage and retrieval service. That is all. He didn’t steal anything. Before he was shut down he had been in touch with the FBI and followed their instructions re: copyright material.

      And that’s why the Government/US case has gone as far as it has: nowhere.

  14. blue leopard (Get Lost GCSB Bill) 14

    “Recent events have refocussed attention on new media and how political blogsites relate to conventional concepts of media.”

    Hang about?

    Didn’t a court of law recently rule a well-known (& hated) political blog site as ‘not a news medium within section s68 (sub-section 5) of the Evidence Act.’

    Was this in reference to blogsites in general?
    Or Whaleoil’s specific style?

    If it was in reference to blogsites in general, then it follows that normal ‘media’ rules for blogsites don’t apply. Can’t have it both ways.

    It stands to reason that a political blogsite will contain writers who are actively involved in politics, yet, yes, I think it far preferable that bloggers disclose their active connections to official political parties.

    It has beem very clear that Bradbury was active in left-wing politics from the get-go – can the same be said for Farrar, Slater or even Hooton? – two of which, who are introduced on television as ‘political commentators’ – a very ‘neutral and independent’ label for people who are not that.

    As for Scoop – what is this? It is perfectly o.k for right-wing party views to actively influence our printed media sources (‘The Herald’, ‘The Listener’), yet a person who sets up Scoop can’t be actively involved in a political party – despite quite likely* not having written anything slanted in favour of that party?

    * I am keen to be provided links to any article that appears to compromise the independent nature of Thompson’s writings –

    It appears there is one rule for those holding right-wing views and another for those holding left-wing views in this country at present.

    • mickysavage 14.1

      Hi BL

      The decision suggests that no blogsites are media unless they are controlled by a traditional media organisation. LPrent thought this was fine and I have reservations because it seemed to me to be against the clear words in the legislation but at another level I do not have a problem with it.

      I was trying to contast the responses by Scoop and Slater. Gordon Campbell at Scoop set out very effectively why Thompson’s situation became intolerable and Slater agrees with this but does not have the decency to acknowledge that this should also apply to his own site, that is he engages in partisan political attacks and is not media because of that.

      • lprent 14.1.1

        Disagreement is normal.

        What I specifically said was that I couldn’t see that blog sites needed the protections and responsibilities of traditional media.

        Those protections are there for a specific purpose, because those media spend much of their effort finding and researching news stories and their reporters needed protection from malicious persecution.

        But there is a tradeoff. The legal system also holds them to a higher level of responsibility. They have to make sure that their news is as accurate as they can make it. They also are expected to provide a degree of balance.

        My argument is that blogs are largely commenting on the news. They aren’t resourced to determine the accuracy of everything that they say. That is why they largely tend to post opinion rather than news.

        The Whaleoil site is a good case in point. Most of the material that is posted there definitely isn’t news. It is straight opinion. Moreover it usually ignores *any* facts that cut into whatever thesis that it is making. With a lot of the posts on the site the material is simply made up or speculative. Where a “opportunity” is provided for response – it is treated by Cameron Slater and his minions to merely be a forum for ritual humiliation. The Blomfield case clearly showed that.

        When WhaleOil is doing “news” stories like the Len Brown one. It did exactly the same thing. Where exactly did Cameron show any attempt to provide any balance in the initial and all subsequent coverage on the site? Quite simply that was all provided by traditional media. Similarly where was the fact checking done for some of the claims? etc etc.

        Sure Whaleoil were given the story by members of the National’s mayoral campaign team, but I don’t think that their subsequent actions showed any of the care that professional journalists are meant to have. And that was an actual news story that he broke – and then gave to the traditional media to do the job correctly..

        Unless new media is resourced to provide the type of care that journalists are meant to bring to their task and then provide it, I don’t think that they require nor should have the protections accorded to those who do.

        Now this isn’t just blogs. The same applies to other things. Radio talk shows for instance.

        • lprent 14.1.1.1

          I should have added that in my view:-

          1. Being a journalist often gets in the way of clearly expressing an opinion.
          2. Blogs are about expressing opinions by citizens who aren’t journalists.
          3. Their role is more important in many ways than that of journalists.
          4. The roles between blogger and journalist are complementary.

  15. Port Hills Pete 15

    Meanwhile we are talking about only two websites because the Internet Party does not have one!!

  16. enoch powell 16

    Whale oil has a tremendous following more than all the left blogs put together in number of visits. Wonder why that would be ?

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 16.1

      Because he posts so much non-political content designed to get overseas page hits? Just a wild guess.

    • Chris 16.2

      “Wonder why that would be ?”

      The voyeuristic nature of people?

    • mickysavage 16.3

      Lets see, on an average day the Standard will put up (say) five posts, including open mike, one notice and feature and three longer posts on different subjects designed to stimulate some discussion.

      Yesterday Slater put up 31 posts including

      a biblical proverb designed to get world wide bible seeking hits,
      a face of the day post about an old guy who lives in Iraq and has not washed for 50 years,
      a general debate post similar to ours with 109 comments, TS had 273,
      a photoshopped picture of a tent city at Dotcom’s mansion,
      a post about National’s selection season with a big push for a young guy called Kael Roberts. I wonder if he has been to one of Simon Lusk’s candidate schools?
      a post made out of a comment made by one of Slater’s readers,
      a post about Dotcom and Bradbury,
      another post about Bradbury,
      a post about Australian economic problems containing three sentences of original text,
      a post attacking Lianne Dalziel for having too many assistants,
      a cartoon about Dotcom,
      a photo of the day post about a church in Poland with human bones inside it,
      yet another post attacking Len Brown,
      a caption contest about a middle eastern terrorist looking sort with a concrete block tied around him,
      a short post about Lord Tebbit in the UK attacking fat people,
      a map of the day showing that the US is the only nation in the world still using Fahrenheit to measure temperature,
      a post on a US poll showing that Chris Christie of the US is still popular even though his staff stuffed up a city’s transport system out of a political vendetta,
      a post attacking a German tourist,
      a post about how a Waiheke quarry has increased its charges,
      another post about Dotcom,
      a post about pedophile priests,
      a very unfunny fake transcript about a telephone conference between Labour and Green MPs,
      a daily trivia post,
      eight youtube videos including a cat video and a gun video both designed to get clicks and a video about someone falling asleep on the toilet, a young girl doing wheelies in a Corvette, and someone discussing having sex on a plane.

      Tremendous following? The site is full of click bait designed to get international clicks and the content and quality of the writing is very poor.

        • Grumpy 16.3.1.1

          Yep, there is no doubt he’s a page hits whore………but, is that a bad thing for a blog owner?

          • Pascal's bookie 16.3.1.1.1

            not really, but if you are using page views to trumpet how awesome you are, then it’s a pretty lame thing.

          • Jackal 16.3.1.1.2

            Not sure why you’re asking me Grumpy? I guess if a person is concerned with the Internet getting clogged up with lots of irrelevant crap that is simply designed to get more hits, they would think a site like Fail Oil is a bad thing. Clearly Slater prefers to stroke his own ego concerning a large amount of fleeting visits instead of actually producing some worthwhile and readable content. Unfortunately for him a hit counter doesn’t actually equate to a credible political blog at all.

      • BM 16.3.2

        Why would whaleoil get international clicks.

        If he’s getting a heap of traffic from off shore there’s something gone seriously wrong with the google search engine.

        Also why is the writing poor?, from what I can see it’s perfect for the audience it’s being pitched at.
        No one wants to read long winded waffle, blunt and to the point is what the majority of people want.

        • enoch powell 16.3.2.1

          Must be all the Kiwis that left for overseas between 2000 to 2009 years

          • One Anonymous Knucklehead 16.3.2.1.1

            Must be difficult being a wingnut, and not be able to remember election years, and quote statistics that are worse under National. How many per year between 1999 and 2008? How many per year since then?

            You really are trying to give the impression you’ere an idiot, eh.

          • mickysavage 16.3.2.1.2

            You need a history lesson.

        • mickysavage 16.3.2.2

          Why would whaleoil get international clicks.

          Do you have a better explanation for the gun clips and the biblical passages?

          Also why is the writing poor?, from what I can see it’s perfect for the audience it’s being pitched at. No one wants to read long winded waffle, blunt and to the point is what the majority of people want.

          You are right that it is perfect for the audience it is pitched at. It is not designed to stimulate thought or discussion. It is designed to stroke existing prejudices and feelings of superiority.

          • BM 16.3.2.2.1

            Do you have a better explanation for the gun clips and the biblical passages?

            Slater’s a religious man, he’s also gone a bit gun mad at the moment

            All the video’s and viral stuff is part of a clever SEO strategy, Slater knows how google works and he’s using it to his advantage, I’d bet money the vast majority of his traffic is from NZ.

            • mickysavage 16.3.2.2.1.1

              BM do you think that it is a good thing for Slater to engage in these tactics to increase page views and then claim that he has the most popular political blog in the country?

              • BM

                For Cameron, yes it is.
                His blog is one of his sources of income, the more traffic he gets to his site the better.

                Personally I think Whale oil has moved beyond being solely a political blog, as Cameron wrote a while ago he was trying to move his website content toward a more blokey audience.

                Think he wants to turn Whale oil more into a politics based FMH.

                • QoT

                  The original point of this thread, though, was the claim that Slater “has a tremendous following”. Which seems highly questionable given that everyone else seems to agree his viewership statistics are rubbish – albeit good for generating revenue.

                  • BM

                    He does seem to have a large following also unless you’ve seen his website stats and by website stats, I’m talking

                    Referrals
                    Where traffic’s coming from.
                    Bounce rate
                    Time on site
                    Page Views

                    Without knowing those factors you have no idea if his website stats are rubbish or not.

        • Pascal's bookie 16.3.2.3

          It would be interesting to see a breakdown of his numbers. How many hits he gets on the youtube, bible quote, and general fluff posts for eg. As well as the source of hits. He used to have one of those world map plugins that show where the hits for the site is coming from. From memory most of his hits came from Norway, the NZ, aus, and change…

      • Colonial Viper 16.3.3

        MS. I’m very sorry that you had to subject yourself to that.

      • phillip ure 16.3.4

        i had an encounter with slater a few yrs back..

        ..at the time i was posting about 15 stories/links per day…

        ..he advised me i was doing ‘too much’..

        ..and should cut back the number of stories i posted..

        ..i immediately cranked up my output..

        ..to the 40-50 stories i now/still do each day..

        ..and slater went away..and increased his daily output..

        ..didn’t he take his own advice..?

        ..phillip ure..

  17. alwyn 17

    Given the chaos that develops when anyone accepts Dotcom’s money the Left had better hope that RedBaronCV’s wishes are not satisfied. If a few thousand, or a few tens of thousands, of dollars can wreck Banks, Bradley and Thomson what would a few million do?
    As RedBaron suggests:

    “Would it not be sensible for Dotcom to also give some donations to labour, Mana and the Greens? A couple of mill would go a long way toward having coalition partners that respect your general stance”.

    Even ignoring the slight whiff of the view that RB seems to imply that these other parties principles can be bought it would probably be the case that that much of Dotcom’s money would be a fatal dose.
    All party treasurers should be warned to immediately burn any cheques from Kim.

    http://thestandard.org.nz/open-mike-12012014/#comment-756225

    • alwyn 17.1

      A correction. It isn’t Bradley and Thomson. It is Bradbury and Thompson. At least I spelt Banks properly.

    • RedBaronCV 17.2

      No whiff intended Alwyn – just pointing out that the right seem very interested in snooping on everyone, the left not so much – so no KDC would not be buying friends. Of course public declarations would be the order of the day.

      And a nice compliment in there too. Makes a change from those whose principles do appear to be for sale.

      • alwyn 17.2.1

        I think you worded it very well actually. You get across the idea that Labour and the Greens, in particular, will “respect your general stance”. That is sufficiently wooly to avoid any realistic claim of corruption while still getting the point across.
        You could hardly get away with something like “These three parties, for a fee, will give you anything you ask for. The price is two million dollars”. That would be a bit blunt and I don’t think you could really have suggested such an idea publicly.
        I thik that if asked the parties concerned would deny that you are speaking for them. The idea is out there of course.

        • RedBaronCV 17.2.1.1

          Of course I’m not speaking for any of them since, surprise, I don’t belong to any of them.

          And of course different political parties can share similar ideas without it being labled corruption. NZF doesn’t want to sell assets, nor do other parties.

          Basically, this is just a comment, no more no less, that doesn’t commit anyone and isn’t sourced from anybody else.
          Lot of angst about what really is just a minor comment on shared views about having a rule of law.

          But since you ask I don’t actually see any of those parties giving KDC exactly what he wants, nor did John Banks now did he?

  18. Tracey 18

    I am shocked. No disclosure from slater…

    Slater = a woodlouse or similar isopod crustacean.

    Slater = A verb meaning to sit backwards on a toilet while defecating. 

  19. Rob 19

    Interesting the comments re Farrar
    Beware his sole purpose to comment is the classic Right response aimed to change the debate so they controll the discussion
    He is like a CT slug cf to a slater!

  20. jcuknz 20

    There is or was a large slater in my shrub which I need to deal with before I have my shower … do I carefully lift it up and place it where it can scuttle back into its home from whence it fell …. or flush it down the toilet? :)

  21. Tracey 21

    Cactus kate is based in hong kong and has said in the past she supports slaters site. Hence I asked if she is an act party member.

    David farrar I have question that mr hooten and mr mapp cant or wont answer.

    If you think we are in a time of economic good news;

    Can you explain how the current “economic good news”, similar to that we’ve had from time to time over the last 40 years, will translate into changes for the 50% of kiwis who currently earn less than $30k per year, and when? And why anything will improve this time, unlike the previous economic good news times ?

  22. tricledrown 22

    The Hollow men are here again

    • Paul 22.1

      Yup the Hollow Men project is still going on, aided and abetted by characters like Farrar and. Hooton.
      All these folk are all really ACT ( libertarians/ Randists) and hiding in National in plain sight.
      This has been the plan ever since the failure of ACT. Hence Banks 1 seat tea party is able to dictate the education policy of the country. Key was heavily implicated by the Hollowman story. He played his role brilliantly in the first term, ably assisted by a corporate media, to build trust with the NZ public. It is depressing to see how easily many NZers can be duped. The dumbing down of education, and the distractions of sport and an increasing obsession with celebrity, means people are increasingly ill informed about what’s actually going on and easier to fool.
      Then term 2 and a more overt ACT agenda…asset sales, the privatisation of education.
      If they win again in 2014, NZ should expect to see the dismantling of the welfare state, the education and health systems of this country in Key’s 3rd term.
      Then it will be too late.

  23. Cactus Kate 23

    Tracey
    I haven’t been an ACT member for two years now. And I’m definitely not a Nat.

    And I haven’t given a cent to the Whaleoil site. When you stop guessing and find out precisely what his blog makes please let me know as he owes me at least 5 years of lunches.

    Thanks
    CK

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    Every Saturday we’re going to post a couple of music videos, probably on a particular theme, unless we run out of ideas and it just turns into Stephanie spamming us with professional wrestling soundtracks and Nicki Minaj. This week’s theme, fittingly: new beginnings....
    On the Left | 24-10
  • Save us from Ebola, Muslims but not guns!
    For some reason, Americans are terrified about the threat of Ebola, the dangers of Muslim terrorists, but not gunzzzzzzzzzzz.Meanwhile:At least three people have been hospitalised after a student reportedly carried out a shooting at a high school north of Seattle...
    Left hand palm | 24-10
  • Because they wanted a better life for me
    (For our opening week, we asked all our contributors to think about why they’re On The Left, and what the next three years holds for the left, the government, and New Zealand.) The first time I saw snow I came...
    On the Left | 24-10
  • Letter to the editor – Key paints a dirty, great, big bullseye on our cou...
    . . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com> to: Dominion Post <letters@dompost.co.nz> date: Thu, Oct 23, 2014 subject: Letter to the editor . The editor Dominion Post . On Radio NZ, on 23 October, I was gobsmacked to hear this from  our...
    Frankly Speaking | 24-10
  • 2014 SkS Weekly News Roundup #43A
    Amazon deforestation picking up pace, satellite data reveals An in-depth look at the oceans, climate change and the hiatus Citing rising seas, Florida officials vote to cut state in half Climate records are breaking so often now, we’ve stopped paying...
    Skeptical Science | 24-10
  • The state of the working class in New Zealand today
    Redline’s readership has, since we began, grown consistently and substantially. At the same time, it can be quite daunting going to a website for the first time and reading a few things on the home-page and then wondering what to...
    Redline | 24-10
  • The state of the working class in New Zealand today
    Redline’s readership has, since we began, grown consistently and substantially. At the same time, it can be quite daunting going to a website for the first time and reading a few things on the home-page and then wondering what to...
    Redline | 24-10
  • Lisa Owen interviews Fonterra CEO Theo Spierings
    Press Release – The Nation Fonterra boss worried about the spread of Ebola in West Africa and potential big consequences for the company, saying it doesnt feel to me like that it is under control at the momentLisa Owen interviews...
    Its our future | 24-10
  • We can be heroes
    (Trigger warnings apply on this post for assault, misogyny, domestic violence, and bitter sarcasm/flippancy about male perpetrators of violence against women.) This is written for cis-gendered straight guys. I have nothing to say to women on the subject of male...
    On the Left | 24-10
  • Stuart’s 100 #47: Water in Public Spaces
    47: Water in Public Spaces What if we made more of water in our public spaces? Sometimes it is the simple things. People flock to water in public spaces. We need more of it in this city. And in more...
    Transport Blog | 24-10
  • Freedom of information: A good idea from India
    One of the better ideas for freedom of information implemented overseas is disclosure logs - agencies posting requests and responses publicly, allowing performance to be monitored and reducing repeat requests. This is widespread in Australia and the UK, but poorly...
    No Right Turn | 24-10
  • The Age of Cupidity
    I've been trying to publish a post for the past couple of weeks.  Although I have several in draft form, when I try to finish them I find myself overwhelmed by a deep lassitude - an uncharacteristic gloom which is only relieved...
    Te Whare Whero | 24-10
  • De-industrialisation and the prospects for socialism
    Is the world really de-industrialising? by Michael Roberts Last week I spoke on a panel that debated De-industrialisation and socialism.  The panel was organised by Spring, a Manchester-based group in England that has become a forum for the discussion of...
    Redline | 24-10
  • De-industrialisation and the prospects for socialism
    Is the world really de-industrialising? by Michael Roberts Last week I spoke on a panel that debated De-industrialisation and socialism.  The panel was organised by Spring, a Manchester-based group in England that has become a forum for the discussion of...
    Redline | 24-10
  • Looking back with pride – Maryan Street
    Maryan Street joined the Labour Party in 1984, was President from 1995-1997 and became an MP in 2005. She talked to Labour Voices about her Labour journey and the people, events and achievements she recalls with the greatest pride....
    Labour campaign | 24-10
  • Strong and comprehensive
    DEVELOPING “a very strong and comprehensive” Women’s Affairs policy going into the 2014 election is one of the achievements Carol Beaumont is most proud of. And being unable to implement it one of her regrets....
    Labour campaign | 24-10
  • Christchurch’s rebuild should be decided by Christchurch, not Welling...
    Radio New Zealand has an appalling story this morning about the government's interference in the Christchurch rebuild over the new District Plan. Normally district plans are decided by elected local councils accountable to the voters who will live under them....
    No Right Turn | 24-10
  • Turning a blind eye to corruption
    As we are constantly reminded, New Zealand consistently leads the Transparency International Corruption Perceptions Index as the "least corrupt country in the world". And as we are increasingly becoming aware, that reputation may be undeserved. Today there's another nail in...
    No Right Turn | 23-10
  • Police Association off target with call to arm Police
    Arming our Police will lead to more crime, more violence, and more killings – by criminals, and potentially even by police. The Police Commissioner is correct in pointing out that the Police Association’s recent call to arm all officers is...
    frogblog | 23-10
  • Political interference at Maori Television
    A government-owned television channel arranges an interview with a former opposition MP, but the government-appointed CEO spikes it. Something from Russia or Cuba maybe? No - according to Hone Harawira its happening right here in New Zealand:“[Maori TV CEO Paora]...
    No Right Turn | 23-10
  • September 14 Patronage
    Auckland’s Transport’s patronage results for September are now out and they show that the city is experiencing spectacular PT growth, growth which is also setting a number of records. The big news was earlier in the week was that when it was announced...
    Transport Blog | 23-10
  • Maiden speech – Jenny Salesa
    Jenny Salesa, Labour MP for Manukau East, has given her Maiden Speech in Parliament....
    Labour campaign | 23-10
  • Maiden speech – Adrian Rurawhe
    Adrian Rurawhe, Labour MP for Te Tai Hauāuru, has given his Maiden Speech in Parliament....
    Labour campaign | 23-10
  • Roastbusters, one year on (almost)
    March in Wellington against rape culture, from Stuff.co.nz Content warning: contains discussion of rape and sexual assault You can literally get away with rape in this country. You can be a serial rapist, with photographic and video evidence you willingly...
    On the Left | 23-10
  • Labour Needs To Stop Saying What People DON”T want to hear.
    A Freight Train called Key: On election night 1975 Bill Rowling said Muldoon's landslide victory felt like being hit by a bus. Oh what David Cunliffe would have given for that bus on 20 September 2014!THE ANGUISH of Labour supporters...
    Bowalley Road | 23-10
  • And if you have to carry a gun to keep your fragile seat at number one R...
    What happened at Canada's war memorial and parliamentary buildings is a pretty bad thing. It should, however, be kept in some sort of perspective. ...
    Pundit | 23-10
  • Beware the sucker ploy.
    A few years back I wrote about the strategic utility of terrorism. One thing I did not mention in that post was the use of a tried and true guerrilla tactic as part of the terrorist arsenal: the sucker ploy....
    Kiwipolitico | 23-10
  • Hard News: Friday Music: An accompanied korero
    I'm chairing the LATE at the Museum event next month, under the title The Age of Slacktivism. We've picked a strong lineup -- Nicky Hager, Matthew Hooton, Marianne Elliot, Laura O'Connell Rapira -- and it should be a rousing hour's...
    Public Address | 23-10
  • 6 amazing renewable energy projects that we love
    Here's a few renewable energy projects from around the world -- ones that we totally love.1. Germany has invested big in solar and wind. And in the first six months of 2012, the amount of electricity produced using renewables jumped from...
    Greenpeace NZ blog | 23-10
  • China’s coal use actually falling now (for the first time this centur...
    Coal use in China is falling this year - according to official data reported in the Chinese press.It is the first time this century that China has seen year on year quarterly falls in coal use. The Chinese economy continues to grow...
    Greenpeace NZ blog | 23-10
  • Can new roads pay for themselves?
    It’s common to hear people say that because roads are paid for by their users (fn 1), we should build more roads. After all, the new roads will fund themselves! At first glance, this seems convincing. But a closer look...
    Transport Blog | 23-10
  • As a nation drowned in the PM’s lies, sons & daughters were sent to d...
      As a nation drowned in the PM’s lies Sons & daughters were sent to die Meanwhile at home democracy cried But his government crowed Everything’s fine.   Other peoples’ children signed up for his war While at home in comfort...
    Politically Corrected | 23-10
  • Why I am on the left
    (For our opening week, we asked all our contributors to think about why they’re On The Left, and what the next three years holds for the left, the government, and New Zealand.) Post by Jem I am left first and...
    On the Left | 23-10
  • Minister to attend TPP Ministers’ Meeting
    Press Release – New Zealand Government Trade Minister Tim Groser will depart today for Sydney to join Ministers from countries participating in the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) for the next round of negotiations.Hon Tim Groser Minister of Trade 24 October 2014...
    Its our future | 23-10
  • National’s failed commodities export strategy exposed
    National's strategy to rely on commodities such as milk powder and logs has been exposed in the September trade figures released today, the Green Party said."National's strategy to hang all economic hope on exporting ever-increasing volumes of milk powder and...
    Greens | 23-10
  • Caution needed on calls to arm police
    There is no justification for routinely arming our police and doing so would change forever the way officers interact with their communities, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “As one of the few organisations distinguished by its unarmed status,...
    Labour | 23-10
  • Govt strains to get tea break law through
    The Government has been left with egg on its face - failing to get its much-vaunted, but hugely unpopular, meal break law passed in the first week of its new term, Labour spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.“National desperately...
    Labour | 23-10
  • How low can you go? Mining the depths
    The company says there will be economic benefits, which the EEZ Act says the EPA must consider, but even these benefits are in doubt. The royalties while not set will be tiny, the profits will flow offshore, and whatever phosphate...
    Greens | 23-10
  • Fed Farmers defend GE Agriculture
    Federated Farmers, which represents a minority of farmers, appears to be captured by a pro-GE clique hell bent on increasing unsustainable technologies for the benefit of the herbicide and patent controlling seed companies. That there are better more sustainable farming...
    Greens | 23-10
  • Government loses the affordable housing race
    Nick Smith is dreaming if he thinks he can deliver affordable housing to Cantabrians on his current figures, says Labour’s Associate Housing spokesperson Poto Williams. “The Minister’s announcement that the Government will build 237 new homes, most of which will...
    Labour | 23-10
  • Labour’s thoughts with Canadians
    Labour has offered its sympathies to the family and friends of the Canadian soldier who died in what appears to be a premeditated and unprovoked attack while standing at guard at the Ottawa National War Memorial. “Our thoughts are also...
    Labour | 23-10
  • What next for TVNZ? Outsourcing the news?
    Television New Zealand’s decision to outsource Māori and Pacific programming is a real blow to the notion that our state broadcaster is a public broadcaster, says Labour. “CEO Kevin Kenrick has said today that TVNZ has ‘a very long and...
    Labour | 22-10
  • Green Party expresses sympathy for Canadian shooting victims
    The Green Party expressed its solidarity with Canadians and the Canadian Parliament today, offering its sympathy for family and friends of the soldier killed in the attack. "Our thoughts are with all those caught up in the shooting in Canada...
    Greens | 22-10
  • Prime Minister must honour his promise
    It’s time for John Key to honour his promise to the Pike River families, says Labour MP Damien O’Connor.  “International mine experts have confirmed the view of WorkSafe New Zealand and many miners on the West Coast that it is...
    Labour | 22-10
  • Kevin Hague questions the Minister of Health about Katherine Rich’s c...
    KEVIN HAGUE to the Minister of Health : Is he satisfied that there is no conflict of interest in the head of the Food and Grocery Council, Katherine Rich, being a board member of the Health Promotion Agency; if so,...
    Greens | 22-10
  • Kennedy Graham to the Prime Minister on the Deployment of New Zealand Speci...
    Dr KENNEDY GRAHAM to the Prime Minister: Does he stand by his statement that the risks to New Zealand from any commitment of military assistance to counter Islamic State militants in Iraq would be "no greater than I think the...
    Greens | 22-10
  • EPA finds Shell Oil illegally drilled two wells
    The Environmental Protection Authority (EPA) has concluded that Shell Todd Oil Services (STOS) broke the law by drilling two wells without a marine consent off the coast of Taranaki, the Green Party said today. The EPA conducted an inspection of...
    Greens | 22-10
  • Soaring rail use in Auckland shows need for rail link now
    News that Aucklanders overtook Wellingtonians as the biggest train users is further evidence the Government needs to start work on the Auckland City Rail Link now, the Green Party said today.Auckland Transport said today that in the year to September,...
    Greens | 22-10
  • Tea breaks gone by lunch time
    Labour is calling for an eleventh hour reprieve to employment law changes which could see thousands of Kiwi workers not covered by collective agreements lose their smoko breaks, its spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.“How cynical that on the...
    Labour | 21-10
  • Metiria Turei to lead fight on feeding hungry children
    Green Party Co-leader Metiria Turei is urging all political parties to support the Feed the Kids Bill which she inherited today from Mana leader Hone Harawira.Mrs Turei, who leads the Green Party's work on child poverty, will pick up Mr...
    Greens | 21-10
  • Otago dairy farms fail basics
    I’m really privileged to take on the responsibility of the water portfolio. Eugenie Sage has done excellent work in this area in the last term of parliament and provided a great platform for further work. Last Parliament my bill to...
    Greens | 21-10
  • A mighty totara has fallen across the Tasman
    The New Zealand Labour Party expresses deep sadness at the death of former Australian prime minister Gough Whitlam, aged 98. “Today a great totara has fallen across the Tasman,” Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says....
    Labour | 21-10
  • Note to National: Must deliver on child poverty
    John Key and his Government will be held to its promise to make child poverty a priority, Labour’s Acting Deputy Leader Annette King says. “In its priority-setting speech today the Government stated child poverty would be a major focus for...
    Labour | 21-10
  • New Analysis show Government cut tertiary education funding
    New analysis done by the Green Party today shows the Government has made cuts to funding of tertiary education since 2008.Figures compiled by the Parliamentary Library show that between 2009 and 2015 Government funding to Tertiary Institutions dropped by 4...
    Greens | 21-10
  • Students doing it tough as fees rise again
    The Government is making it increasingly difficult for Kiwis to gain tertiary education as fees continue to rise and access to student support becomes even more restricted, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “Steven Joyce is shutting a generation...
    Labour | 20-10
  • Key misled New Zealand on Iraq deployment
      John Key was misleading New Zealanders prior to the election when he ruled out New Zealand special forces being deployed to Iraq, says Labour Defence Spokesperson Phil Goff.  “Post-election he has cynically disregarded that by saying that deployment of...
    Labour | 20-10
  • Swearing about swearing the oath
    Yesterday, I was swearing. Swearing the Parliamentary oath, that is. But, under my breath, I was also quietly swearing about the archaic, colonial form of that oath and its inappropriateness for today’s Aotearoa New Zealand. To be permitted to speak...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Kevin Hague speaks in the 2014 Address and Reply debate
    Thank you very much, Mr Deputy Speaker, and, like others, can I begin my contribution by congratulating you and the others in the Speaker's team: the Rt Hon David Carter, Lindsay Tisch, and the Hon Trevor Mallard. I also want...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Damning report on Ruataniwha dam numbers
    When I presented my submission to the Board of Inquiry on the Tukituki Catchment Proposal I compared the proposed 83 metre high Ruataniwha dam with the Clyde Dam and noted the risk of cost blowouts in the construction process.  The...
    Greens | 20-10
  • Church congratulated on child poverty stand
    The efforts by the bishops of the Anglican Church to ensure that the issue of child poverty is not forgotten is a call to all New Zealanders to take action, says Labour’s Interfaith-Dialogue Spokesperson, Su’a William Sio.   “I think...
    Labour | 19-10
  • Labour names Review Team
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has appointed Bryan Gould as Convenor of its post-General Election Review.  He will be joined on the Review Team by Hon Margaret Wilson, Stacey Morrison and Brian Corban (see further biographical details here). The Review Team...
    Labour | 19-10
  • Labour backs urban development plans
    Auckland Council’s plan to set up an urban development agency is to be applauded and central government should get behind it to make it a success, Labour’s Auckland Issues spokesperson Phil Twyford says. Auckland Council CEO Stephen Town has indicated plans...
    Labour | 18-10
  • New Zealand can be rightly proud of seat on Security Council
    Gaining a seat on the United Nation’s Security Council shows the sort of standing that New Zealand has in the world and the quality of the long campaign that we ran over nearly a decade, says Foreign Affairs spokesperson David...
    Labour | 16-10
  • NZ has opportunity on UN Security Council
    New Zealand has an opportunity to make a major contribution to the strengthening of international law and institutional capacity through its upcoming two-year tenure on the United Nations Security Council, Green Party spokesperson on global affairs, Dr Kennedy Graham said...
    Greens | 16-10
  • MPI still dragging the chain over causes of food bug
    The Ministry of Primary Industries’ release of Environmental Science and Research’s initial reports regarding the sources of a nasty stomach bug will be little comfort to the 127 people affected by it, Labour’s Food Safety spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “This...
    Labour | 16-10
  • Treasury officials should try working without food
    The Green Party is challenging Treasury officials to work for a week without eating properly, in light of their advice to Government that a food in schools programme is not needed."Treasury's advice was that providing food for children in schools...
    Greens | 15-10
  • Councils need to better protect our drinking water
    Environment Canterbury (ECan) is proposing several variations to its regional land and water plan that will allow for increased nutrient and other pollution from irrigation and intensive agriculture on the Canterbury Plains. Commissioners are hearing submissions on Variation 1 to...
    Greens | 15-10
  • National needs to commit to making NZ workers safe
    The National Government must do more to help make New Zealand workplaces a safer place to work in, Green Party industrial relations spokesperson Denise Roche said today.Data released by Statistics New Zealand today showed that workers in the fishing and...
    Greens | 15-10
  • Key commits to deployment before consultation or analysis
    John Key’s offer to consult Opposition parties on whether to deploy New Zealand forces against ISIS looks increasingly like a PR exercise only, says Labour’s Defence spokesperson, Phil Goff. “The presence of New Zealand’s Chief of Defence Force at a...
    Labour | 15-10
  • National must end ideological opposition to raising income
    If John Key is serious about tackling child poverty he must approach it with an open mind, and overcome his ideological block to raising incomes as a solution, the Green Party said today.Papers released to Radio New Zealand today show...
    Greens | 14-10
  • Pentagon links climate change and terrorism
    Yesterday the Pentagon launched a plan to deal with a threat that “poses immediate risks to national security”; one that “will affect the Department of Defense’s ability to defend the nation”. It wasn’t referring to Ebola or ISIS. It was...
    Greens | 14-10
  • Four Nominees for Labour’s Leadership
    As at 5pm today four valid nominations had been received for the position of Labour Leader, as follows: Andrew Little(nominated by Poto Williams and Iain Lees-Galloway) Nanaia Mahuta(nominated by Louisa Wall and Su’a William Sio) David Parker(nominated by Damien O’Connor...
    Labour | 14-10
  • Green Party calls for consultation over terrorism law changes
    The Green Party has today written to the Prime Minister asking him to engage in wider consultation prior to changing any laws as a result of the recently announced terrorism law reviews, said the Green Party today. In a letter...
    Greens | 14-10
  • MPI must name product and supermarket chain
    The Ministry of Primary Industries must name the product responsible for severe gastroenteritis affecting people around the country, and the supermarket chain distributing it, Labour’s Food Safety spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “The Ministry seems to be more concerned about protecting...
    Labour | 13-10
  • John Key dishonest about reasons for wanting to change terrorism law
    John Key is misleading the public to push through terrorism law changes under urgency, the Green Party said today. On Sunday, John Key stated that it is not illegal for someone to fight overseas for a terrorist group, such as...
    Greens | 12-10
  • Law changes shaping up to be worse than first thought
    The Prime Minister needs to be up front about exactly what changes he is planning to make to the Employment Relations  Amendment Bill, Labour's spokesperson on Labour Issues Andrew Little says.Interviewed on Q&A yesterday John Key said he did not...
    Labour | 12-10
  • Rapists, not Tinder, the threat to women
    Blame for rape and sexual assault should only ever be laid at the door of the perpetrator, not dating services or the actions of women themselves, Labour’s Associate Police spokesperson Kelvin Davis says. “Tinder is not the problem and women...
    Labour | 09-10
  • Safer Journeys For People Who Cycle
    You have a rare opportunity to tell the people who are making the decisions on cycling how to make it better. The Cycling Safety Panel is seeking feedback on their draft recommendations for improving the safety of cycling in New...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Subsidising more pollution will undermine water clean-up plan at Te Waihora...
    In 2010, NIWA found Canterbury’s Te Waihora/Lake Ellesmere had the worst nutrient status of 140 lakes around New Zealand that it measured. In 2011, the National Government committed to spending $15 million across the country through the Fresh Start for...
    Greens | 08-10
  • Adding value not herbicides
    The HT swedes, and other brassicas, might seem like a good idea to farmers struggling against weeds but like the GE road, is this the path we want our agriculture to be treading? The Federated Farmers President, Dr William Rolleston...
    Greens | 07-10
  • ‘Blame the Planner’ bizarre approach to child poverty
    The National Government is stooping to a bizarre new low in blaming "planning processes" for poverty and inequality, after spending six years doing nothing about either the housing market or child poverty, the Green Party said today. Finance Minister Bill...
    Greens | 07-10
  • Media Advisory
    MANA Leader, Hone Harawira will not be available to speak with media today regarding his release “Recount Just One Step To restoring Credibility”. He is however available for media comment tomorrow, Tuesday the 8th of October, all media arrangements are...
    Mana | 07-10
  • RECOUNT JUST ONE STEP TO RESTORING CREDIBILITY
    “I have applied for a judicial recount of the votes in the Tai Tokerau election because it is one step in trying to restore credibility to the electoral process in the north, and, I suspect, in all other Maori electorates...
    Mana | 07-10
  • MANA SEEKS TAI TOKERAU RECOUNT
    The MANA Movement is supporting Leader Hone Harawira’s application for a judicial re-count in the Te Tai Tokerau electorate for the 2014 general election. President Lisa McNab says there are a number of serious issues of concern regarding the ability...
    Mana | 07-10
  • The instant Jihad syndrome
    My favourite new term is ‘self-radicalised’ – it suggests the reasons for terrorism are totally divorced from the actions of the West. This need to suddenly ramp up terror laws because of lone wolf, self-radicalised Jihadists seems convenient and counter-productive....
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • We have nothing to fear from Ebola but fear itself
    I suspect most Americans perceive Ebola like this   I can’t work out if the fear being spread within the media about Ebola is deliberate or just ignorance. Yes Ebola is a terrible plague that kills a large percentage of...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Anjum Rahman – “Meritocracy? I wish.”
    I’d like to start by linking to a post I had published at another site in support of Nanaia Mahuta for the Labour Party leadership election.  She has a reasonable chance, given that she already has the endorsement of Te...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Chocolate milk shortage and creepy Santa? Let’s talk about real news
    Child poverty is still a scarily serious problem in this country and house prices are soaring through the roof to the point where it is simply impossible for the average New Zealander to buy a home. There is also little...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • It’s time to celebrate Kiwi schools and teachers
    Some would have you believe that New Zealand’s schools are in a state of collapse, that your children are not being educated well and that things are going to hell in a hand basket.  That there is no innovation, no...
    The Daily Blog | 25-10
  • Ideological Blitzkrieg – Privatization of state housing, more charter sch...
    Pundits in pundit land will tell you that this Government is boring, that Key is the great pragmatist and that it is his ability to create elegant solutions that keeps him the firm favourite in many Kiwi eyes. This ability...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • Hegemony rules but resistance is fertile
    The Prime Minister is a puppet. Not just our current Prime Minister, but given the forces of multinational globalisation, the role of any head of state, is less as independent actor, and more as a puppet of international trends and...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • An open Letter to Sir Bob Jones: demanding a ‘liveable wage’ is not “...
    How out of touch with reality is Sir Bob Jones? You know, that white dude who invested in privatised SOEs after the selling off of our assets in the eighties and made a ludicrous and disgusting amount of money and is...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • My insecurity about the Security Council
    As I write this (on 24 October) it is international UN Day. Of course, you all knew that already, right? Well, the day celebrates the entry into force of the UN Charter in 1945. With the ratification of this founding...
    The Daily Blog | 24-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Catherine Delahunty – Back in That House
    Parliament opened this week and I still find it a very odd place. Most of the people are reasonably courteous and friendly, but the rituals are archaic and the rules around issues like the swearing in oath are oppressive and...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Marae Investigates No More
    TVNZ yesterday announced the closure of their Māori and Pacific programmes department. That means they’ve chosen to stop making Fresh, Tagata Pasifika, Waka Huia and Marae Investigates to let independent producers get their hands on these lucrative contracts. This is...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • BLOGWATCH: An Un-Civil War in Labour, eh?
    Earlier today, my attention was directed to an entry that’s just recently appeared on the Slightly Left of Centre blog. It purports to contain the ‘inside word’ from a highly placed NZF source – which is funny, because I’m pretty sure...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Santanomics 101
    Santanomics could mean a number of things. It could be the study and practice of giving. Or it could mean the study and practice of rampant end-of-year commercialism. However, for me today it is the economics of erectingAuckland’s giant Santa...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • SkyCity boss misleads public over workers lost shifts
    SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison has defended the employment practices at his company in an “Opinion” piece entitled “Human Capital key to corporate success” in the NZ Herald on Thursday. A number of his claims are misleading, contain only partial truths...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • Review: Perfect Place
    I went to a Perfect Place on Tuesday night, and what a delight it was. The marshmallows sweetly (and forcefully) handed out pre-show, set the tone for the next hour. Walking up the stairs at The Basement was a complete...
    The Daily Blog | 23-10
  • 5AA Australia – NZ on UN Security Council + Dirty Politics Lingers On
    5AA Australia: Selwyn Manning and Peter Godfrey deliver their weekly bulletin Across The Ditch. General round up of over night talkback issues: Thongs, Jandals and flip-flops… ISSUE 1: New Zealand has been successful in its campaign to become a non...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • When I mean me, I mean my office & when I call whaleoil I mean not as m...
    This. Is. Ludicrous. Green Party co-leader Russel Norman put the first of what are likely to be many questions about Mr Key’s relationship with Slater, asking him how many times he had phoned or texted the blogger since 2008. “None...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • A brief word on describing the Government as ‘boring and bland’
    The narrative being sown is that this Government will be a boring and bland third term. Boring and bland. Since the election, Key has announced he is privatising 30% of state houses without reinvesting any of that money back into housing society’s most...
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • More Latté Than Lager: Reflections on Grant Robertson’s Campaign Launch.
    BIKERS? SERIOUSLY! Had Grant Robertson’s campaign launch been organised by Phil Goff? Was this a pitch for the votes of what few Waitakere Men remain in the Labour Party? Was I even at the right place? Well, yes, I was....
    The Daily Blog | 22-10
  • About Curwen Ares Rolinson
    Curwen Ares Rolinson – Curwen Ares Rolinson is a firebrand young nationalist presently engaged in acts of political resistance deep behind enemy lines amidst the leafy boughs of Epsom. He is affiliated with the New Zealand First Party; although his...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kelly Ellis
    Kelly Ellis.Kelly Ellis – As a child, Kelly Ellis didn’t so much fall into the cracks, but willfully wriggled her way into them. Ejected from Onslow College – a big job in the 70s – Kelly worked in car factories,...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • About Kate Davis
    Kate Davis.Kate Davis – Having completed her BA in English and Politics, Kate is now starting her MA. Kate works as a volunteer advocate at Auckland Action Against Poverty and previously worked for the New Zealand Prostitutes Collective. Kate writes...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Parker does a Shearer – oh for a Labour Leader who can challenge msm fals...
    Sigh. It seems David Parker has done a Shearer… Like a cult and too red – Parker on LabourLabour leadership contender David Parker says Labour borders on feeling like “a cult” and must look at its branding – including its...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • A brief word on the hundreds of millions NZ is spending on the secret intel...
    The enormity of the mass surveillance state NZ Government’s have built carries a huge price tag… Kiwis pay $103m ‘membership fee’ for spyingThe $103 million taxpayer funding of New Zealand’s intelligence agencies is effectively a membership fee for joining the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Where. Is. Jason. Ede?
    Where. Is. Jason. Ede?...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Labour’s Din of Inequity
    Watching Labour’s leadership candidates on Q+A on Sunday, I noticed the ongoing use of terms like “opportunity” and “aspiration”, and “party of the workers”. What do these mean? We glean much from Labour, and from the media about Labour, but not...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • “Blue-Greenwash” fails the test when it comes to endangered dolphins
    National’s pre-election promises saw some wins for the environment – perhaps as the party sought to appease its “Blue-Green” voters and broaden its popular appeal. Some of the ecological gains were a long time in the making, overdue even– such...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • Reasons not to be cheerful, Part #272b
    Why don’t you get back into bed? The next few years — the rest of this century — are not going to be pretty. There is an obvious disconnect between any remaining political ambition to fix climate change and the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-10
  • OIA protocols and official advice ignored to hide Child Poverty
    It might not seem so now, but child poverty was a major election issue. What a pity we did not have the full debate. In that debate it would have been very helpful to have seen the Ministry of Social...
    The Daily Blog | 20-10
  • Previewing the 4 candidates for Leader of the Labour Party
    The extraordinary outbursts by Shearer last week highlights just how toxic that Caucus is. Shearer was on every major media platform as the ABC attack dog tearing into Cunliffe in the hope of diminishing Cunliffe’s support of Little by tearing...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – the sudden explosion of ‘left’ blogs
    Time to Teach or more people will suffer from P.A.I.D. Political And Intellectual Dysmorphia.I was on the Twitter and a guy followed me so of course I did the polite thing and followed him back. He wrote a blog so...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Ego vs Eco
    Ego vs Eco...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • We can’t let the Roastbuster case slip away
    Those of us (like me) left with hope that the police would aggressively follow through on the large amount of evidence on offer to them (let’s not forget they forgot they even had some at one point) in the Roastbusters...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Food, shelter and medicine instead of bombs and bullets
    The on-going conflict across the Middle East – due in large part to the US-led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq – has created another humanitarian crisis of biblical proportion. The essentials of life are desperately needed in Iraq and Syria...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • The politics of electorate accommodations
    National’s electorate accommodations with ACT and United Future were a big factor in it winning re-election. Interestingly, there is another electorate accommodation scenario whereby the centre-left could have come out on top, even with the same distribution of party votes....
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Why you should join the TPPA Action on 8 November
    On 8 November 2014, thousands of Kiwis will take part in the International Day of Action to protest the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA). The rally cry for us is TPPA – Corporate Trap, Kiwis Fight Back. Why should you join...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • GUEST BLOG – Patrick O’Dea: no new coal mines
    Green Party and Mana Party policy is “NO NEW COAL MINES!” Auckland Coal Action is trying to put this policy into action on the ground. ACA after a hard fought two year campaign waged alongside local residents and Iwi, in...
    The Daily Blog | 19-10
  • Comparing Police action – Hager raid vs Roast Buster case
    This satire had the NZ Police contact TDB and threaten us with 6months in prison for using their logo.   The plight of Nicky Hager and the draconian Police actions against him has generated over  $53 000 in donations so...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Malala Yousafzai, White Saviour Complexes and Local Resistance
    Last week, Malala Yousafzai was the co-recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize. Since her exposure to the worldwide spotlight, her spirit, wisdom and strength have touched the hearts of people everywhere. However, there have been cynics who have argued that...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • Jason Ede is back – but no media can interview him?
    Well, well, well. Jason Ede, the main figure connected to John Key’s office and the Dirty Politics black ops is back with a company with deep ties to the National Party. One thing you can say about the right –...
    The Daily Blog | 18-10
  • GUEST BLOG: Curwen Rolinson – Leadership Transitions In Other Parties: A ...
    As cannot have escaped anyone’s attention by now, the country is presently in the grips of an election and campaign that will help determine the fate of the nation for years to come. It’s gripping stuff – with clear divides...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • SkyCity worker says she faces losing her house
    SkyCity worker Carolyn Alpine told the company annual shareholder’s meeting today that she faced the prospect of losing her house because the company had cut her shifts from two a week to one without consultation. The solo mother, has worked...
    The Daily Blog | 17-10
  • Greg O’Connor’s latest push to arm cops & 5 reasons not to
    I was wondering at what point within a 3rd term of National that Police Cheerleader Greg O’Connor would start trying to demand cops be armed. O’Connor must have thought to himself, ‘if bloody Key can get us and the GCSB vast new...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • You can’t have crisis without ISIS
    So the new scary bogeyman ISIS might have chemical weapons that the US secretly found in Iraq, but America didn’t want to expose this find because the WMDs were actually built and made by the US and Europe, the two powers...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • NZ WINS UN SPIN THE BOTTLE! Privately sucking up to America for a decade me...
    Oh, we are loved! Little old NZ, the 53rd state of America after Israel and Australia, gets to sit at the adults table for the special dinner party that is the UN Security Council. How delightful, a decade of privately...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • MEDIA BLOG – Myles Thomas – A World Without Advertising
    Non-commercial broadcasting and media. It’s a solution for all manner of problems ailing our tender nation… voter engagement, unaccountable governance, apathy, stupefaction, public education, science in schools, arts appreciation, cultural cringe… But no-one could’ve guessed that non-commercial media might solve...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October
    March against war – 2pm Saturday 25th October...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • Whack a mole as US govt foreign policy
    Whack-A-Mole was a popular arcade game from my youth.  It consisted of a waist high cabinet with holes in the top. Plastic moles seemingly randomly pop out of these holes. The purpose of the game was to hit as many...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • In Paean of Debt
    This week is ‘Money Week’. It’s an opportunity to promote to the middle classes, and anyone else who will listen, the virtues of wise ‘investment’. The aims are to promote the mystical (and indeed mythical) virtues of saving for the...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • The last 48 hours – Poverty denial, war denial and unapologetic abuse of ...
    The bewildering speed of events that simply end in Key shrugging and proclaiming he doesn’t really give a shit is coming think and fast as the Government suddenly appreciate the full spectrum dominance they now enjoy. Here is Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 16-10
  • Pike River Families Group Press Release
    The Families can now but hope that Solid Energy will consider closely the response of the Families’ expert mining advisers, Bob Stevenson and Dave Creedy, and the independent legal advice by Hugh Rennie QC as to why re-entry to the...
    Scoop politics | 24-10
  • On The Nation this weekend
    This weekend on The Nation… with dairy prices falling, China growing its agriculture sector, and the environmental costs piling up, we ask the Fonterra chief executive Theo Spierings if New Zealand is too dependent on milk powder and if we’ve...
    Scoop politics | 24-10
  • NZ Government Urged to Do More to Fight Ebola
    As Ebola continues to tear through West Africa, Save the Children NZ is urging the government to do more in the fight against the deadly virus....
    Scoop politics | 24-10
  • Korero Mai Ki Ahau – Saturday 25 & Sunday 26 October 2014
    Broadcast on Waatea 603AM Saturday 12.00 - 12.30pm Sunday 12.00 - 12.30pm Both shows repeated 5.00pm – 6.00pm On Sunday...
    Scoop politics | 24-10
  • Putting whānau foremost in Family Dispute Resolution
    Dispute resolution company, FairWay Resolution, has developed a uniquely New Zealand approach to family dispute resolution (FDR) that is underpinned by the cultural needs and values of the parties to a family dispute. In support of its role as a...
    Scoop politics | 24-10
  • Anglican Family Care staff to rally industrial action rises
    Public Service Association (PSA) members working at Anglican Family Care (AFC) in Dunedin will hold two rallies in Dunedin next week as they seek a fair pay offer, following a week of low-key industrial action....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Flying Visit for Adventuring Kiwi Socialpreneur
    12 Months on, this former Alexandra barista is changing lives in Buenos Aires Slums with free lunches, music, art, drama and toothbrushes...
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • March in Solidarity with Kurdistan Against ISIS Attacks
    The New Zealand Kurdish Community will march in solidarity with Kurdistan in light of the heinous genocidal attacks in Kobanê by ISIS. We will begin with silent demonstrations then commence marching. We will start from Britomart, Queen Street (outside Dick...
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • No Problem for Henare & Jones, But “No Way” for Harawira
    “Just before the election I broke the story about the gutting of Maori Television’s News and Current Affairs department by MTS’ new CEO Paora Maxwell. I pointed out that Carol Hirschfeld and Julian Wilcox, two of the country’s most experienced...
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Corruption: Positive developments for NZ but more to be done
    Global anti-corruption group Transparency International today released a report on OECD Anti-Bribery Convention enforcement and called for New Zealand to implement draft legislation to ratify the United Nations Convention against Corruption....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Government to Blame as Much as Council for Marryatt Payout
    The Taxpayers' Union is calling on the Government to fix the employment law regime that has forced Christchurch ratepayers to fork out $800,000 to former Council boss Tony Marryatt....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Unanimously Call for Commissioner to Arm Police Full Time
    In the wake of a series of recent armed offender incidents, delegates to the Police Association Annual Conference today called unanimously on the Commissioner to arm Police full time....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Bank gets behind NZ wildlife icon with sizable donation
    It will be easier than ever this summer for holiday-markers to dip into their pockets to support the yellow-eyed penguin....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • WorkSafe report raises concerns about asbestos
    The union representing construction workers in the Canterbury rebuild is surprised at WorkSafe’s conclusion that no action needs to be taken against EQC and Fletcher EQR over asbestos exposure in Canterbury homes. “This report was an opportunity...
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Union accuses SkyCity CEO of misleading public
    Unite Union has accused SkyCity CEO Nigel Morrison of misleading the public over the cut in hours for a staff member who raised the issue at the company's AGM....
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Last Hurrah on the Taxpayer
    Responding to the NZ Herald report that Hone Harawira spent up $54,000 on the taxpayer in his last three months as an MP, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “It is absolutely disgraceful that an MP managed to rack...
    Scoop politics | 23-10
  • Press statement in relation to search of Nicky Hager’s home
    On 2 October 2014, Nicky Hager's home in Wellington was searched by police. Mr Hager asserted that documents kept at his house were protected by privilege, including because they contained information that might identify confidential sources....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • The Sam Simon arrives into Auckland for new campaign
    This morning Sea Shepherd ship, the Sam Simon, arrived into Auckland harbour after its journey from Melbourne. The ship and its 25 crew from around the globe have come to New Zealand to source supplies and prepare for the upcoming...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Low inflation – time for meaningful wage increases
    With inflation low, now is a good time for workers to negotiate for pay increases that outstrip price rises and deliver real increases in wages and salaries. “For too many people, real pay increases have been missing for several years...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Auckland Rates Rises Out of Control
    Responding to the NZ Herald report that Auckland ratepayers will face an average of a 29 percent rates increase, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says: “These rate rises show that Len Brown's spending is out of control.”...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Protest at New Plymouth Oil and Gas Expo
    About 30 protesters from Climate Justice Taranaki, Frack-free Kapiti, Te Uru Pounamu Action Group, Oil Free Wellington, Frack-free Manawatu and the east coast protested yesterday outside New Plymouth's biennial Oil and Gas Expo at the TSB Stadium....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • FMA warns consumers about cold-calling investment offers
    The Financial Markets Authority (FMA) is warning New Zealand consumers and investors to be wary of cold-calls asking them to buy shares or put their money into offshore firms....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Comprehensive plan needed to end child poverty
    Child Poverty Action Group says it is vital the newly re-elected National government takes a planned and comprehensive approach to reducing child poverty in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Metiria Gets Feed the Kids
    Yesterday the Speaker of the House advised that he had accepted my request to transfer my Feed the Kids (Education (Breakfast and Lunch Programmes in Schools) Amendment) Bill to Metiria Turei of the Green Party....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • DIA undercover investigation leads to jailing
    An undercover Internal Affairs investigation has led to a Hastings man being jailed for three and half years....
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Call on Minister McCully to pursue the case of Balibo Five
    Media Information: Call on Minister McCully to pursue the case of journalist Gary Cunningham and the Balibo Five...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Australia and NZ actions on press freedoms alarming
    Global support for investigative journalism in Australia and New Zealand is a welcome response to law changes and a police raid, says the Pacific Freedom Forum...
    Scoop politics | 22-10
  • Call for release of French journalists in West Papua
    West Papua Action Auckland, the EPMU Print and Media Council and the NZ Media Freedom Network call on the Minister of Foreign Affairs to speak out in support of the two French TV journalists whose trial has just begun in...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Court of Appeal: Dotcom v 20th Century Fox Film Corporation
    A The appeal is dismissed. B The 20 August 2014 order of the High Court dealing with confidentiality and the 29 August 2014 order of this Court dealing with confidentiality are set aside. C The confidentiality orders set out in...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Glassons Blasted For Glamourising Animal Cruelty
    Clothing brand Glassons have found themselves embroiled in another controversy after launching a new advert featuring a girl riding a bull. Animal advocacy organisation SAFE have asked them to remove the ad immediately as it glamourises animal cruelty....
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Smuggling honey into New Zealand isn’t sweet
    Smuggling honey into New Zealand isn’t sweet Federated Farmers Bee Industry Group applauds the tough line taken by Ministry for Primary Industries (MPI) Border Staff at Auckland Airport. In deporting the couple found trying to smuggle bee products...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Taxpayers’ Union Responds to Joyce on Corporate Welfare
    Responding to Economic Development Minister Steven Joyce’s defence of corporate welfare , Jim Rose, the author of Monopoly Money , a Taxpayers Union report on corporate welfare since 2008, says:...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech from the Throne brings welcome focus on children
    Today’s speech from the Throne confirms the Government’s focus on children, youth and their families in the areas of health, education, youth employment, poverty alleviation and Whānau Ora; now the challenge is to ensure every child in New Zealand...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • John’s Job Fairs no fix for unemployment and poverty
    “John Key has clearly been looking to the US for his latest bright idea on dealing with employment issues,” says Auckland Action Against Poverty coordinator Sue Bradford. “Job fairs where the desperately unemployed queue in their corporate best to compete...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Speech From the Throne Foreshadows More Corporate Welfare
    Responding to the Governor General’s Speech from the Throne, which outlined that the Government’s intentions for the next Parliamentary term would include further Business Growth Agenda initiatives, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan...
    Scoop politics | 21-10
  • Green MP to speak at panel on Rainbow Mental Health
    Hamilton, New Zealand: Recently re-elected Green Party MP Jan Logie will be a guest speaker at a panel on the mental health of Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Trangender, Takataapui and Intersex people taking place on November 1st as part of the...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Evidence Supports GE Moratorium
    Federated Farmers spokesman Graham Smith's call for a 'rethink' on release of GeneticallyEngineered organisms is misguided, and instead it is time for a formal moratorium on GMOs in the environment.(1)...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Chatham Rise mining could have impact on whales and dolphins
    Wellington, 21 October 2014--Mining phosphate on the Chatham Rise, off the east coast of New Zealand’s south island, could potentially have many impacts on marine mammals like whales and dolphins, the Environmental Protection Agency was told today....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Council endorses Nanaia Mahuta as the next Labour leader
    Te Kaunihera Māori, the Māori Council of the New Zealand Labour Party, have passed a resolution to endorse the Hon Nanaia Mahuta as the next leader of the Labour Party...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Kaumatua to organise petition to end Maori seats
    Ngapuhi kaumatua David Rankin has announced that he will be organising a nationwide petition to seek support from Maori voters to end the Maori seats. “These seats are patronising”, he says. “They imply we need a special status, and that...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Announcing a New Voice for The Left
    Josh Forman is pleased to announce the creation of a new force on the Left of politics in New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Public services held back by poor workplace culture
    A new report by Victoria University’s Centre for Labour, Employment and Work shows that public servants are working significant unpaid overtime to ensure the public services New Zealanders value are able to continue....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • iPredict New Zealand Weekly Economic & Political Update
    Andrew Little’s probability of being the next leader of the Labour Party has reached 70% and Jacinda Ardern is favourite to become his deputy, according to the combined wisdom of the 8000+ registered traders on New Zealand’s predictions market, iPredict....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Prison Drug Treatment Unit marks a milestone
    Christchurch Men’s Prison’s Drug Treatment Unit (DTU) celebrated the completion of its 50th six month Drug and Alcohol Programme today, with the graduation of a further twelve offenders....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Security Council seat a chance for NZ to empower women
    The UN Women National Committee Aotearoa New Zealand (UN Women NCANZ) welcomes New Zealand winning a seat on the United Nations Security Council and is calling on New Zealand to use its position to proactively promote effective implementation of the...
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Waipareira and ACC sign Partnership
    Waipareira and The Accident Compensation Corporation (ACC) have signed a Memorandum of Understanding at Whanau Centre, Henderson – marking a special day for the West Auckland Urban Maori organisation....
    Scoop politics | 20-10
  • Humanitarian aid desperately needed in Iraq and Syria
    Global Peace and Justice Auckland is calling on the government to provide humanitarian funding for non-aligned NGOs (non-governmental organisations) in the Middle East rather than give any support whatever for the US-led military campaign in the area....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Court Judicial Decision: Dotcom v The USA: 17 October 2014
    The United States of America is seeking the extradition of Messrs Dotcom, Batato, Ortmann and Van Der Kolk. The matter has been before the Courts on numerous occasions, and no further recitation of the facts is needed....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Marshall Island poet speaks at UN climate summit
    “The fossil fuel industry is the biggest threat to our very existence as Pacific Islanders. We stand to lose our homes, our communities and our culture. But we are fighting back. This coming Friday thirty Pacific Climate Warriors, joined by...
    Scoop politics | 19-10
  • Many tourist car accidents preventable
    Simple steps could dramatically reduce the number of accidents involving tourists, says the car review website dogandlemon.com ....
    Scoop politics | 19-10
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