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Selling Mighty River cost you $100m

Written By: - Date published: 7:33 pm, May 9th, 2013 - 157 comments
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National admitted today that the sale of Mighty River cost around $100m, and that the paltry 2.5% of New Zealanders who bought an average of $8,000 each are not typical Kiwis. The figures themselves are shocking but the politics is really revealing. English didn’t try to avoid the unpalatable failure of asset sales, he was flippant. He is so out of touch he doesn’t see the problem.

Take a gander at Russel Norman’s question to English:

Now, if they spent $100m to get just 113,000 ‘mums and dads’ who aren’t really typical mums and dads ($1,000 taxpayer per ‘mum or dad’), what’s it going to cost to sell the larger Meridian and Genesis, and AirNZ? And who’s going to buy them? Surely, if you have money for a punt on a power company, you would have gone for Mighty River.

Now, you might be asking what else could have bought with $100m. Metiria Turei asked English how many houses it could have insulated. Have a look at his response:

The answer, btw, according to the Greens is 67,000. That’s 67,000 houses we could have insulated for $100m. And with a return on investment of $500m according to Treasury. Instead, National wasted it on a failed asset sale.

157 comments on “Selling Mighty River cost you $100m”

  1. Lanthanide 1

    It didn’t cost me $100m. It may have cost *us* $100m though.

    “Surely, if you have money for a punt on a power company, you would have gone for Mighty River.”

    Why? Just ’cause it’s first? IMO Meridian is better – the Tiwai Point closure might hurt them in the short term, but in the long term they’ll be better off than the other generators since they’ll now be able to sell the same power for more, whereas the others will only sell less power.

    • Colonial Viper 1.1

      You’re really going to wait the 20 years its going to take after the smelter closure for Meridians spare capacity to be absorbed? I’ll put it another way. As a retail investor, you’re ripe to be scammed by the inside knowledge of the institutions..

      • Lanthanide 1.1.1

        Given that the infrastructure is already in place for the Manapouri electricity to be transmitted to the North Island, Manapouri gets a large amount of rainfall, I think it’s more the case that other, more expensive generation will be displaced. Sure, Meridian will also have some excess capacity due to oversupply, but if they’re going from a situation of selling the power at 2c kwh to ~15c, it’s pretty easy to see that their revenue and profits will increase.

        • Colonial Viper 1.1.1.1

          Well, here’s hoping some gutsy future government will regulate the entire market down closer to 2c/kWh

  2. Colonial Viper 2

    That’s just the thing. MRPs poor float performance was not a failure for National’s constituents.

  3. vto 3

    I fail to see why the need for spending this sort of money on sales commission (mostly).

    There was sufficient demand for the government to do it itself. Or even trademe would have been cheaper.

    Why would they not do this do you think? Because it is ‘investmen ‘banks’ that get the fees? Because John Key made his millions with investment banks? Because that’s the way they spread the money around their mates?

    There was no need.

    • Lanthanide 3.1

      “There was sufficient demand for the government to do it itself. Or even trademe would have been cheaper.”

      We have these things call laws, which require things like share floats to be done in a certain way. They were tightened recently after the GFC and debacle of the finance companies. Listing it on trademe wouldn’t satisfy those laws, and likely the government wouldn’t be able to do it themselves either.

      • Macro 3.1.1

        “We have these things call laws, which require things like share floats to be done in a certain way.”

        and yet it costs $100m to do this??

  4. And the bit that will really do your head in is the amount of power that could be saved by properly insulating homes. The Government would be way better on behalf of all of us insulating our homes and reducing consumption. But that would adversely affect the power companies bottom lines …

  5. logie97 5

    Just asking. If every eligible NZ mum and/or dad had registered and applied for shares in the MRP float, would they all have got their wish? Where would an over subscription sit with the philosophy of people being able to participate in the property owning democracy?

    • Ross 5.1

      Logie

      Only 3% of the population applied for shares, yet some mum and dad investors didn’t get what they asked for. Some asked for 2000 shares and got 1600. Then again, if mums and dads believe what their esteemed PM tells them, they really are guillible.

      • Ennui 5.1.1

        Ross. these “ma and pa” investors…they had $8K up their sleeves! Common garden good old fashioned Kiwis investing in their country, lovely soft cuddly grandmas…reminds me of the wolf in Red Riding Hood.

      • Graham 5.1.2

        “Some asked for 2000 shares and got 1600″.
        If they had pre-registered then they would have been allocated the lot. Scaling back for those who pre-registered kicked in above the $15,000 mark.

  6. Tamati 6

    The real cost of the IPO will be apparent when it lists tomorrow. Usually shares are issued at a discount, to ensure that they sell well. In all likelihood, the shares will rise on their first day and the true value of the shares will apparent. The difference between the two prices is the “cost” of the underpricing.

  7. Tigger 7

    I was thinking of bringing a private prosecution against Blinglish and Ryall for selling property that does not belong to them. This was my/our company. They’ve hocked it off. I figure that’s criminal behaviour no different to if they’d sold a police car or stationery from a government office.

    • Lanthanide 7.1

      Everything the government does is on behalf of the public. You’d be just as able to bring a private prosecution against any random minister for spending money on the unemployment benefit.

    • Chris 7.2

      You do know they regularly sell old police cars? I think Turners has the contract (at least they used to).

      • Tim 7.2.1

        They used to give them away too – to those poor Pacific cousins like Fiji – till they realised Turners could flik them a bit of cash instead (even with clipping the ticket).

    • johnm 7.3

      100% right Tigger, they’re a bunch of sleazy white collar crims aided and abetted by the rich minority of money grubbers in this divided land.

      • Tim 7.3.1

        They don’t call it a divided land these days John – it’s ‘dividend’ land.

  8. Yes 8

    You guys talk rubbish

    [let me guess, your argument's so powerful that it's not necessary to explain it.Eddie]

    • Hayden 8.1

      Sweet argument bro.

    • Yes 8.2

      Explain what? Govt sold 49% of a state owned asset and 1.6b into future development. Labour under Clarke and Cullen squandered our wealth and surplus and let’s not forget the multi billion dollar bill from ACC. National has done a great job and while I accept people migrating is more than I would like people move. You can’t tell people what to do.
      If you guys should back and reflected for a moment and said where are we now compared to where we we say 5 years ago I would be pretty positive. Whether a left wing government gets in or not national has set up the foundations for a strong economy. Give them some credit. I just think you guys talk continued rubbish on here.

      • Colonial Viper 8.2.1

        Uh, want a strange and twisted recollection you have

        And selling profitable family assets to pay for day to day running expenses is sorta stupid, yeah?

        • Yes 8.2.1.1

          Ummm labour NZ power plan is zero based profit formula so you are wrong

          • Colonial Viper 8.2.1.1.1

            A zero profit formula?

            If there are going to be zero profis, why did lots of international financial institutions buy into MRP?

            • Yes 8.2.1.1.1.1

              Because their model says take away the super profit under NZ power and give back cheaper prices. Isn’t that stealing. The people who will benefit most under NZ power will be the rich and companies which the owners will get more money. Have you read whale oil, kiwiblog, the owl and the nbr

              • Colonial Viper

                It’s such a shame that the investor classes won’t get their super-profits. Super-profits they steal from ordinary NZers by systematic over-charging. I guess the investor classes will just have to settle for average profits eh.

                Have you read whale oil, kiwiblog, the owl and the nbr

                You have to be kidding, seriously.

                • Yes

                  Yes read lots of people’s view national voter I declare but MRP has got me very interested. Convince me

                • Colonial Viper

                  It’s really a simple idea: MRP is a wealth pump. Originally 100% owned by the NZ government, it took money from households and businesses all around the country and pumped it into Treasury.

                  Now, 49% of that wealth pump has been sold to foreign institutions, and a small number of wealthy NZ investors. Instead of Treasury collecting 100% of the monies from the wealth pump, 49% of the monies goes overseas and into the hands of a small number of already rich people.

                  • Yes

                    Only 13.5% is overseas investment..kiwisaver has more money than that in overseas investment – why don’t you complain about that.

                    • Colonial Viper

                      That’s 13.5% too much. And why should ownership of a public good be concentrated in the hands of a few rich people?

                      kiwisaver has more money than that in overseas investment – why don’t you complain about that.

                      Because those investments pump money back into NZ. That is good for the country.

                      You still don’t get the difference between a wealth pump emptying out the country and one which pumps wealth into NZ, do you?

            • Yes 8.2.1.1.1.2

              But wait you are stealing other people’s wealth from other countries under kiwisaver…we as a country are doing the same. Your argument is flawed

  9. tc 9

    ‘He is so out of touch he doesn’t see the problem’ should read he knows what the problem is, he just doesn’t give a F.

    • paul andersen 9.1

      no, he is out of touch. english still thinks it;s the nineties ,and he is still praying to an old black and white photo of ruth richardson.

      • Colonial Viper 9.1.1

        Quite wrong, English is certainly not doing that. If you think he is, you haven’t picked up on his fiscal management style at all.

  10. Saarbo 10

    That is an interesting point that English made at 5m.30 s in the second clip, he reckoned that Contact and Trust Power share prices are at a lower price now that they were 5 years ago. I guess utility stocks tend to be dividend stocks, so they don’t necessarily go up a lot over time but this is still good fodder to scare the 2.5% away from the next share floats…Bill better be careful what comes out of his mouth.

  11. Ed 11

    There was a lot of consultancy cost before the asset sales process – which may or may not have been included in the answer from the Finance Minister . . .

  12. RJLC 12

    Great performance by Labour.

    Not.

    It’s clear who are the real opposition.

  13. Tim 13

    I’m no expert by any means, but one of the reasons people invest in the share ‘market’ relates to the fact that shares are a tradable commodity yes?
    I also notice that share trading is fairly regularly suspended at various times – often because of ‘uncertain’ situations and at the request of companies involved.

    There are a host of reasons why trading in MRP shares might be suspended – and for quite a long period of time.

    • Colonial Viper 13.1

      Retail investors in the share market are lambs to the slaughter nowadays. High speed automated trading algorithms (high frequency trading) has completely screwed the market and allows large trading institutions to direct the market upwards or downwards at will.

      • Tim 13.1.1

        Agreed re hft – which is why the whole concept of the ‘free market’ is just such a load of tosh.
        I was thinking more along the lines of first steps towards returning things to public ownership when we finally get a new gubbamint.

        • Colonial Viper 13.1.1.1

          Well, in that case you don’t actually want MRP share trading to be suspended, you want the share price to gradually decline and for the govt to start picking up large parcels of shares at a significant discount.

  14. Swan 14

    Norman is looking a bit beaten and desperate isn’t he. I guess we’re not pleased, are we Clint?

    • infused 14.1

      He always does.

      • felix 14.1.1

        Funny, you’d think he’d be stoked. According to English, Key, and the share-buying public, he’s on his way to the Govt benches.

        • Swan 14.1.1.1

          I think $2.50 a share means the market has the Nats out in front by a nose.

          • felix 14.1.1.1.1

            Then I guess you don’t know much about markets.

          • Te Reo Putake 14.1.1.1.2

            The market didn’t set that $2.50 price, Swan, the Government did. We’ll see what the market thinks later today.

            • Ennui 14.1.1.1.2.1

              Leads me to think dark thoughts that the raising of cash was highly secondary to the sale of shares to their mates (Nat voters, corporate funds etc) at a very cut price.

            • Swan 14.1.1.1.2.2

              Unless the govt chose to sell at a discount (in which case the market was picking even better odds for national), then yes the market did effectively set the price. National couldn’t sell them at an inflated price or no institutions would have bought them. The institutions bid.

            • dumrse 14.1.1.1.2.3

              And your answer is………..peaked at $2.72. Govt 1, Labour….fuck all.

              • One Anonymous Knucklehead

                2.85% is pitiful: a vote loser.

                • Colonial Viper

                  Don’t forget the $60 brokerage commission on selling…basically means someone who owns 1000 shares of MRP makes fuck all, as expected only the brokerages and bankers make the big money.

          • paul andersen 14.1.1.1.3

            no , the nats have got their noses in the trough.

        • infused 14.1.1.2

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMkDnuySfzo looks tired and defeated.

          • Arfamo 14.1.1.2.1

            The clip title’s mis-spelled. It should say “English – Sludge of the Day“.

  15. Ross 15

    What’s interesting that some mum and dad investors, those investors who, according to John Key, were the “number one priority”, had their shares scaled. Some investors wanting a mere 2000 shares received only 1600. Clearly, insitutional investors were more important than the mums and dads which Key banged on about.

    http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/govt-details-mighty-river-share-allocations-refunds-nz-individual-investors-ck-139904

    http://www.interest.co.nz/news/58248/new-zealand-mum-and-dad-investors-number-one-priority-pm-key-when-it-comes-soe-share-allo

    • Alanz 15.1

      ‘Well done’, John Key! Our trusting and honest mums and dads are getting played by him. Well and truly done by John Key.

    • felix 15.2

      Didn’t Key and English explicitly promise that everyone who wanted 2000 would get 2000? And that scaling would kick in after that?

    • xtasy 15.3

      “Mums and dads” as “investors” are just the convenient “pawns” in a larger game, that is! Most cannot afford to buy such shares anyway, that is the issue of concern here.

  16. andy (the other one) 16

    Just heard Brian Gaynor on radio, and he said the Institutional investors do not settle on MRP shares until next Wednesday 15th May

    So the Govt does not even have the money in the bank. They get to trade shares and possibly make profit for nothing.

    So we have effectively given them a interest free loan for 3-4 trading days so they can try and extract profit, while the Mum and Dad investors had the cash taken in April.

    Talk about great odds for the institutional investors, as expectations are for a rise in value at the start of trading.

  17. TheContrarian 17

    “Surely, if you have money for a punt on a power company, you would have gone for Mighty River.”

    Not necessarily true at all. I have the money and didn’t as I am waiting to see what happens with MRP first. I know plenty of others in the same boat.

  18. Neil 18

    Remember, 113 000 NZers took up shares. Out of 400 000 who registered this is still 25%. After all, it took nothing to register. This time you had to write a cheque out or have the dosh in the bank.
    Ordinary NZers, I’m one who has saved hard, was a teacher, invested carefully and am now enjoying the fruits of MY labour. I have taken control of MY destiny like many other senior Kiwis NOT waiting for the golden goose Labor/Greens to give me an illusionary $300 savings in power.
    A last comment,any politician promising you to give you money is in most cases a snake oil salesman dressed up in a smooth suit and white shoes.

    • xtasy 18.1

      “I have taken control of MY destiny like many other senior Kiwis NOT waiting for the golden goose Labor/Greens to give me an illusionary $300 savings in power.”

      This is the exact proof I need for stating once again, NZ is a divided country, and it is so, by the design and interest of those that are better qualified, better equipped, that have more resources, that likely had a much easier head start than others, that ended up getting FREE university or other TERTIARY EDUCATION, that could sell their acquired skills for nice salaries every year, that did well despite of Rogernomics, and that do NOT REALLY CARE at all for those that do not meet their social class and circles.

      And for that sake, being rather social and whatever, I have not that much time for many teachers, as you are a prime example of the “professional class” that only sees their own entitlements, and consider others as less worthy for whatever judgmental cause.

      It is despicable to even make such comments as you made.

      YOU are UP THERE, UP Y-self, I suppose, and the rest bloody learn to work harder, right? So you must be pleased with the present government introducing new youth rates at $ 10.80 an hour for many aged 16 to 19 in supermarkets, fast food outlets and more.

      Enjoy your burger and smiling checkout operator working for shit pay to keep your trolley and stomach full!

  19. Neil 19

    Ross made the comment that people who had applied for $2 000 of shares had theirs scaled back to 1 600. How convenient that Ross did not add that was because those people had not pre-registered,. If you pre-registered you either got the full amount or one quarter extra.
    Tell the whole story !!!

    • Ross 19.1

      Neil,

      I said that some buyers had had their allocation scaled. They were buyers who has bought only 2000 shares. You will recall that your beloved John Key said earlier this year:

      “What we’ve said is, when it comes to Mum and Dad, if they want to buy 1,000 shares or whatever it might be, I want to make sure that they get their allocation, they’re not scaled, and they’re at the front of the queue,” he said.

      That seems pretty unequivocal. Why did some mum and dad investors – buying a measly 2000 shares – get scaled in favour of institutional investors?

  20. Rich the other 20

    Wake up to green/labour , truly dangerous.

    By the end of the day a reliable calculation of how much the green/labours attempt at economic sabotage has cost hard working NZ tax payers, it’s starting to look like .30c per share.

    They are about go into hiding.

    • Winston Smith 20.1

      Its funny, if the Greens (lets face it Labours doing nothing) had done nothing then the price of the shares would have been higher and the govt would have gained more money but instead the Greens wasted a whole bunch of money, the govt got less money and I gained more shares…

    • framu 20.2

      “a reliable calculation”

      care to show us the maths on that one?

    • Colonial Viper 20.3

      RTO serves your crew right for trying to financialise core NZ infrastructure.

      Best thing is to depress the MRP share price so that it can be renationalised at half the cost.

    • Rich the other 20.4

      $ 2.69 and $45 mill in sales as at 12.46.

      ..19c per share above issue price.

  21. mikesh 21

    Loks like a good day for the stags. According to the “depth” the buying offers range from 2,59 to 3.20.

    • Colonial Viper 21.1

      Bet you that sweet f.a. volume will move above 3.10

      They just put those top bids in there to make the market look good

  22. kahu 22

    MRP up 20 cents! Terrific, a nice little profit. Thanks National!

    • Yep 30 minutes after listing about 25 million shares have been sold in the range of $2.67 to $2.73 per share representing a cool profit in the vicinity of $5 million. And this just the first day …

      Imagine how much NZ Inc is going to lose over the next few decades …

      • King Kong 22.1.1

        Why? NZ Inc already got out of the thing at $2.50.

        Can’t sell the rest so why does NZ Inc give a shit where the price is.

        • QoT 22.1.1.1

          I do love how you say “NZ Inc already got out of the thing” like MRP was a bad deal … while arguing against the idea that the increase in its price shows it’s actually [now] a desirable commodity.

  23. kahu 23

    Easiest money I’ve ever made. Now to go spend it and further help the economy! The wonders of privatization eh?!

    • aerobubble 23.1

      Remember English rushing to London to stop a rate hike on NZ. How he sat down with a bunch of neo-liberal bankers, and I’m guessing promised to increase the size of the share market in order to give tax cuts to the wealthiest, etc. National is the classic bend over to the great Thatcherite experiment that has left NZ economy hollowed out, ready to raid by Chinese investors and leaving farmers and home owners heavily indebted after pay over the top bubble prices for real estate.

      Oh, how you loe the trickle down, you mug, you’re being paid off with funny money, the world is awash with the stuff, our currency is heavily over priced because the US and Japan are printing the stuff, that is directly coming off the top of our exports.

  24. tsmithfield 24

    Does the left believe that babies and children should be able to buy shares?

    When the figure of “just under 3%” is quoted, it is factoring the number purchasing shares against the total population of New Zealand. Along with those who have money to invest, the figure for the population also includes babies, children, families where shares may have been purchased by the partners together, and deadbeats who’s idea of an investment is $20 on a tinnie. So, a large proportion of the population wouldn’t have been able to buy shares no matter how good the deal.

    If the percentage was quoted as a percentage of those who could afford to invest and could legally do so, then it would be substantially higher than 3%

    • Hayden 24.1

      Does the left believe that babies and children should be able to buy shares?

      Children can buy shares, or at least can have them bought for them.

      Here’s a press release talking about it, specifically in regards to MRP.

    • xtasy 24.2

      tsmithfiled: Well every New Zealander should have shares, babies included, as the power companies were so far SOEs, owned, managed and operated by the state, for all of us.

      Every New Zealander should have a stake in everything that affects the whole of society, that is of importance and crucial to run and manage in this society, and having such stake-holding, that would make people feel to be part of what goes on.

      Putting ownership and controls in a few hands, and leaving the others out, that creates divisions, which exactly lead to some feeling worthless, disowned and disempowered. so a tinnie is the artificial side kick they allow themselves to feel a bit better, just for a short time.

      And the biggest problem with that is, there are some “capitalist” minded jerks taking advantage of them also, be they gangs, be they corrupt police officers, be they growers that sell for unreasonable profits and what else there is.

      Your arrogance is unsurpassable accusing those that are disowned and disenfranchised as “dead beats”, while you sit in your cosy armchair in your home in Remuera, Kohi, Epsom, Parnell or wherever else, and frown on those that sit outside in the cold, in damp homes and that have to run around proving to employers they can justify getting paid, or to WINZ they have done all to keep them paying them a meagre benefit.

      Shame on you, you divider of your own nation!

  25. tsmithfield 25

    If you want to use the line of argument that children count because shares can be purchased on their behalf, then you would also have to accept that members of kiwi saver funds that have purchased MRP shares also count. So, again, the figure would be much higher than 3%.

    • Hayden 25.1

      And if the NZ Super Fund bought some shares, then 100% of us did too! Magic!

    • Ross 25.2

      It’s not much higher at all. Even excluding kids, the take-up rate is no higher than 4%.

      • tsmithfield 25.2.1

        Are you thick or what? You didn’t even read my post by the looks.

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 25.3

      TSmithfield: do the numbers then, or are you afraid it’ll mean 3.2% rather than 2.85?

  26. tsmithfield 26

    Just taking your own argument to its logical conclusion. Not saying I agree with it. :smile:

    The fact remains that there would have been a large proportion of the population, who for one reason or another, were unable to participate in the share float even if they wanted to.

    So, it is fallacious to claim a percentage uptake based on the whole population.

    • Hayden 26.1

      Learn to use the Reply function, for fuck’s sake.

      The fact remains that there would have been a large proportion of the population, who for one reason or another, were unable to participate in the share float even if they wanted to.

      And this is a good thing? I thought this was about the average “mum and dad” investor.

      • tsmithfield 26.1.1

        You need to read the last word of what you have just typed. There are a lot of “mum and dads”, but there are a lot less “mum and dads” who are in the position to be “investors”.

        • Hayden 26.1.1.1

          Given that you’ve only just learnt that children can own shares, I think I’ll look after my own education, thanks. No one’s interested in your semantics.

          • tsmithfield 26.1.1.1.1

            Maths obviously isn’t your strong point.

            • Hayden 26.1.1.1.1.1

              I’ll give you credit; most people, having dropped a clanger like

              Does the left believe that babies and children should be able to buy shares

              would have just slunk away quietly, yet here you are blithely carrying on as if you’ve just made, personally, the frankly fucking startling discovery that not everyone has $2000 with which to buy shares. How that relates to “maths” isn’t quite clear, but here’s an idea: you go away, find out exactly how many New Zealanders have the wherewithal to purchase the shares and then come back with another percentage.

              • tsmithfield

                And you continue to mis-represent what I said, and what you said yourself.

                I said that babies and children couldn’t buy shares. You pointed me to an article that said that others could buy shares on the behalf of their children. That is an entirely different scenario. I actually included your scenario in my opening statement when I referred to partners purchasing shares on behalf of their families.

                I countered your argument, but you don’t seem to be able to realise it.

                You definitely have a problem with reading and comprehension.

                • Hayden

                  Actually, you originally said:

                  When the figure of “just under 3%” is quoted, it is factoring the number purchasing shares against the total population of New Zealand. Along with those who have money to invest, the figure for the population also includes babies, children, families where shares may have been purchased by the partners together, and deadbeats who’s [sic] idea of an investment is $20 on a tinnie. So, a large proportion of the population wouldn’t have been able to buy shares no matter how good the deal.

                  Anyway, you can bet your pimply arse that every name on the ownership list has been counted individually, so who actually bought the shares for whom is irrelevant.

  27. Kiwis that had courage made some money today, they’re the ones that didn’t listen to the fear tactics of the greens and labour.

    • Arfamo 27.1

      Kiwis who are happy to price-gouge their less well-off compatriots made some money today. Probably they’ll make more money for themselves selling their shares off to foreign buyers next.

      • Winston Smith 27.1.1

        Nope we’re patriots keeping NZ assets in NZ hands

        • Arfamo 27.1.1.1

          You’re economic & social predators, like Key and Shipley et al. Stop kidding yourself.

          • Macro 27.1.1.1.1

            +1000

            Pariah’s….

            And before anyone accuses me of envy – I have a spare $1/2 m sitting in the bank. I would never touch these “shares”. They are not mine to own – nor are they anyone else’s. They belong to every person in NZ, and that includes the little girl who lives over the road.

            Those who “bought” just stole out of the hands of children.

        • Hayden 27.1.1.2

          Which is it? Either you made some money selling it, or you’re holding it in a nice patriotic fashion. Because the only way anyone made money off it today was by trading it.

    • xtasy 27.2

      Brett Dale – Kiwis that would have courage would take it off you without any compensation (re-nationalise it) and get you working in the trenches, to get your hands dirty, like real workers do every day!

      It takes NO courage to follow the easy way of all others, who follow a rotten system that rewards those that have to make more of it with little effort, by having others do the hard work, to pay them the dividends and profits.

      Sucking blood out a stone you may try, there will be limits to what your MRP company will be able to suck out of the average power consumer, and you will learn the hard lesson one day soon!

  28. Appleboy 28

    Hey TSmithfield

    4.4 million people in NZ

    let’s say less 25% (NZ Statistics site info says 23% of people are children under 15)

    what percent is 113,000 of 3.3 million?

    I’ll tell you …it’s 3.7%

    Close enough to make you a prat who doesn’t know what he’s talking about

    • tsmithfield 28.1

      Moron.

      If the government was selling investments in MacDonald’s franchises there would be a substantial proportion of the population that wouldn’t have the money for it. So calculating a percentage on the basis that includes the people that can’t afford to make any investment is totally erroneous.

      The percentage of investors should be calculated on the basis of the pool of investors who can afford to invest the equivalent money in something. If calculated on that basis the share up-take would look very good.

      • Lanthanide 28.1.1

        The percentage of investors should be calculated on the basis of the pool of investors who can afford to invest the equivalent money in something. If calculated on that basis the share up-take would look very good.

        Nah, it wouldn’t be that different. The minimum investment was $1,000. Anyone who owns an asset worth $1,000 or more, such as a car, or a house, could have invested in MRP. For the majority of people, it would be an utterly inane decision, but the threshold you’ve described is really quite low.

        Hell, people could have taken $1,000 cash advances on their credit cards and used that to buy MRP shares.

        Therefore, you threshold of “people who could invest equivalent money in something” is so low as to be meaningless.

        So instead of excluding 25% of the population ’cause they’re children under 15, let’s exclude 40% of the population, on the grounds that most people would have been able to scrape together $1,000 in some way, no matter how inane or stupid that decision would have been. That gives us 4.3% take up (113k / 2.64m).

        Pretty lame, Milhouse.

        • tsmithfield 28.1.1.1

          You’re contradicting lefty dogma there, Lanth.

          According to lefty dogma the vast multitude can hardly scrape together enough to buy a loaf of bread or give their kids breakfast. So, on that basis $1000 would be too rich for a large proportion of the population.

          • Puddleglum 28.1.1.1.1

            Hi tsmithfield,

            By far the more important question (and calculation) is ‘what percentage of eligible voters took up the share offer’?

            After all, the percentage of ‘investors’ who took it up is politically unimportant, especially if we assume that a large proportion of actual or potential (i.e., those inclined and able to invest) probably tend to the right.

            • tsmithfield 28.1.1.1.1.1

              Hi Puddlegum. What we are talking about is conditional probability.

              Given that x number of people had the financial resources to invest, which percentage of those actually did so?

              All that Lanth and I disagree on is the value of x.

          • Colonial Viper 28.1.1.1.2

            Nah, Lefty dogma is that the top 2% need to have their wealth redistributed out.

          • felix 28.1.1.1.3

            “According to lefty dogma the vast multitude can hardly scrape together enough to buy a loaf of bread or give their kids breakfast. So, on that basis $1000 would be too rich for a large proportion of the population.”

            But Key said this was something all kiwis could take part in. Are you calling him a liar?

            Lanth is right. Anyone with more than $1000 equity could potentially have bought shares. Whichever way you slice it, almost all of those people decided not to.

          • Lanthanide 28.1.1.1.4

            No, not contradicting ‘lefty dogma’ at all.

            ‘Lefty dogma’ says that people don’t earn enough money to live a decent lifestyle. My example here underscores that: people with cars could sell them, to get $1,000 to invest. People with houses could sell them, to get $1,000 to invest. People with credit cards could take $1,000 out on cash advance to invest.

            These decisions would be utterly stupid and insane for the vast bulk of the population, but the point is, THEY COULD HAVE DONE IT if investing in MRP made sense for them. It doesn’t, so they didn’t.

            I’m just pointing out how stupidly low your threshold was, and that even discounting 40% of the population (largely comprising children, and then those without any assets at all), it hardly makes the uptake figure look any better.

            Thus highlighting the fact that you’re spinning a shit take-up rate. Even if you cut the population down to 20% (say top 20% of earners, who are likely to have disposable income), the takeup rate is still only 12.8% out of those remaining – 13 people out of every 100, even you only include the top 20% in the country.

      • xtasy 28.1.2

        tsmithfield

        According to your kind of logic, one may argue, that the percentage of voters that voted for the National Party last election should be calculated also on the basis that includes ALL the people that can and are entitled to vote, perhaps, right? So where then is your “majority” to justify stealing the state owned shares off the people representing the state owning them?

  29. dumrse 29

    I don’t see any updated analysis from Eddie today……. Cat got your tongue ?

    • One Anonymous Knucklehead 29.1

      2.85% buy-in. Feeble.

    • xtasy 29.2

      You chose the appropriate name and I sense you are pleased with what people think of it. As for commenting on an author and contributer to this forum, in this manner, one could ask similar silly questions of you.

  30. tsmithfield 30

    Here is how lefty logic works.

    1. Only 100 people in NZ have enough money to buy a Ferrari.
    2. Out of that 100, 20 actually by a Ferrari.

    Lefty conclusion:

    Look at the terrible job Ferrari has done marketing its product. Only 20 people out of 4 million in NZ purchased a Ferrari.

    • Arfamo 30.1

      And that’s how wingnut predatory logic works. Invent a completely irrelevant and ridiculously inapposite analogy and falsely claim that’s what your opposition is saying.

      • tsmithfield 30.1.1

        Its just demonstrating the stupidity of the lefty argument by posing an extreme example to make the point. This analogy varies only in degree, not in principle.

        • Arfamo 30.1.1.1

          No it’s demonstrating you hate people with a social conscience to such an extent you’ll make up any lie to besmirch them. But if you’re a National supporter that’s completely understandable and to be expected.

          • tsmithfield 30.1.1.1.1

            Maths definitely doesn’t seem to be the strong point with lefties.

            • Arfamo 30.1.1.1.1.1

              Avarice is certainly a strong point with you right-wingnuts.

              • tsmithfield

                Na. What it is actually called is conditional probability. The problem with the lefty analysis of this is that they have completely over-looked the conditional part of it.

                Take a look at Lanth’s response to me above. I disagree with him in terms of emphasis. But we agree on the principle of the argument. Lanth is a lefty I respect because he is able to grasp these sorts of concepts.

                • David Jones

                  I actually have a Ferrari albeit an old one (and an Aston Martin, a Mercedes-Benz and 3 Ducatis,) but the gain I’ve made in MRP shares mean I could either fuel them all up on the first day of the IPO, or take the long view and hold shares until they get me my next car or bike I want. I’m taking the long view and aiming for a vintage car next like a Model T. MRP capital gain will pay for that.

                  • xtasy

                    David Jones, in a country, where ancestors were happy to go to war for some colonial Mother(f**er) land and get themselves killed and incapacitated or whatever else, and where that is held in high honour here, where division amongst the populace, brainwashed by commercial advertising and dumbing down media, is rampant, where it is selfishness galore, where everyone I see and know is only after their own pound of flesh, you will likely succeed, as this is a country of yours full of suckers and cowardly losers.

                    So I congratulate you, you are successful to pull the wool over the rest of your compatriates, outside the fenced off area or gated communities that is, you are doing well, really well!

                    They are so dumb and useless here, you do not even need the army or full police force to protect you from your blatant, rude selfishness.

                    • David Jones

                      WTF? Are you in a secure unit? I hope so.

                    • xtasy

                      David Jones – I suggest you consult the “secure unit”, given your instability and insecurity just shining through your silly response. I tried to do you a favour and compliment you on your self ar(you)seholedness, but you seem to think this is all just a fun game, to crap on most of society while you shit on them and have fun.

                      There are some they would love to “embrace” you (and more) for a haagi! They “love” your flavour, mate, keep it up.

                    • David Jones

                      Jesus wept. And this is Labour in 2013. Fuck me.

                      [lprent: This isn't a Labour party site. Many commentators here don't support the NZLP. Many are even from the right. So long as they offer interesting opinions and follow the site rules we tend to let commentators rip.

                      Read the about and policy before commenting again because being a complete ignorant fuckwit who is too stupid or possibly incapable of understanding that you should read the local ordinances before making a complete dork of yourself tends to attract my attention.

                      It also indicates someone as being incapable of providing value to the comments section because they are more interested in jerking off in public rather than using their brains. Gets kind of boring listening to yet another testosterone driven braggart. If that is what you want to do, then you should try Whaleoil's site which is where those posturing fools hang about, ]

                    • felix

                      No David, you are mistaken. The Labour party website is called redalert.

                  • Te Reo Putake

                    If TS ever felt the need for a Pseuds Corner, can I nominate David Jones? That opening sentence is breathtaking in its pomposity.

                    • David Jones

                      Tsmithfield started it, but what’s your point?

                    • David Jones

                      Fuck me, you lot are weird. I’m not sure what xtasy’s problem is, but I suspect the answer lies a lot in that nickname. Watch out for those grinding teeth dude.

                    • xtasy

                      TRP, excuse me, but I think what the point is that some here have is with TS (Tsmithfiled) that he or she comes with arguments that do not convince.

                      For instance arguing only those capable of, or having the dosh to, who can buy such MRP shares, should be considered for comparative percentage calculations of who “bought” shares.

                      On that argument we may as well argue, what “majority” did John Don Key get as member and leader of his grandiose National (Natzi) Party to win the election and the “mandate” to sell what is state (and therefore socially) owned?

                      If you look at the ones who “can” afford to buy such shares in MRP, you must treat elections the same way, as to who “could” vote and were legally “entitled to” vote. As there was sadly the large abstention, that means Nats and allies did NOT get a majority of the VOTE to form a government with full and wider support, and certainly did NOT get the mandate to sell the half of shares of SOEs.

                      So I am awaiting David Jones’ and other’s arguments, which I think already, has not even a weak and sick fly’s leg to stand on.

                    • xtasy

                      I have just got a new entrepreneurial idea: I will “invent” a Ferrari Coffin, that will suit the rich pricks with previously high testosterone levels, who want and equally fast “driven”, “hot” and elite funeral, out of the ordinary. Thank you David Jones, for giving me the incentive and ideas to start a NEW successful business in Key’s Promised Land of Aoteaora! Great, unbeatable!

                    • xtasy

                      The Ferrari coffin idea was not meant to drive someone to an early grave, I apologise, if that has happened in the meantime, I though claim that I am NOT responsible. I do not want to stop any expedient departure that is expected by higher powers, but apart from that every one is their own master of fortune, for sure this applies especially for the rich pricks like David Jones and ilk, who think they have a special right, can frown on others and deserve a better and cleaner coffin than others. Excuse me, I expect egality, equality in English, and more fairness and respect for all, dear folk!

                    • David Jones

                      Oh come on, bet ya you wanna take one from my garages out for a drive round the bays, or do you really prefer the bus?

                    • xtasy

                      Davinci Jones – I prefer the rollin coffin, for sure, with heated bottom cushioning, and then racing down Tamaki Drive with you in the side car, that will make my day. No need for a stupid old car or a bus there, right?

                    • xtasy

                      David oooh dear, I knew someone exactly like you, who also admired STASI as the best secret service there ever was, apart from Mossad that is. You got your pullover well knitted with the right knitwear! Excellent, we can become a team really!

                • Arfamo

                  The fallaciousness of your analogy is not with your maths. It’s with your ridiculous conclusion that all those “lefty”s opposed to the sale of state assets are now critical of the government for badly marketing the sale. Which is self-evidently daft.

                  • tsmithfield

                    “It’s with your ridiculous conclusion that all those “lefty”s opposed to the sale of state assets are now critical of the government for badly marketing the sale.”

                    I will stop making sweeping generalisations when all those here stop doing the same (eg RWNJ and the like).

                    So, other than for the fact I have made a broad generalisation, it appears you agree with me, in principle at least.

                    • Arfamo

                      I agree in principle you are enjoying an irrelevant pinpricking mathematical debate about the treacherous decision by this morally, economically & socially destructive government to sell a portion of a publicly owned utility which previously returned 100% of profits to all NZers as ongoing government revenue, and which will now return considerably less ongoing revenue and, if all utilities are privatised, will result in further price increases simply to feed predatory, morally bankrupt private domestic and foreign investors, and further impoverish the disempowered middle to low income earners in this country.

                      Our economy grew under the last Labour government. The whole of NZ and the economy was benefiting from its prudent tax and investment policies. By comparison, the Natzy’s regressive neo-liberal policies of massive tax reductions for the wealthy (with basically zip for the bottom end), and increased GST & indirect levies & taxes, are continually eroding the living standards of low and middle wage earners, while having zero negative impact on those with high incomes and assets and access to subsidised legal tax shelters.

                      Then there’s the ongoing job losses across sectors, benefit cutting, endless repeater media-assisted demonisation of those driven into poverty and benefit queues, ideologically-driven dumb blunt-axe slashing of government staffing and services when they now simply have to rehire many they’d sacked,(http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/17101074/extra-biosecurity-staff-calls-into-question-earlier-cuts-psa/), reductions in employees’ wages and bargaining power, and the horrendous offshore borrowing the Natzy’s embarked on to paper over the massive hole their badly-miscalculated tax cuts gouged in government revenues. All these rort and ripoff policies are now well documented, here and overseas, as likely only to further impoverish the less-well off sectors of our society, whilst massively enriching the already wealthy who only see other people as “assets” – suckers to be exploited.

                      John Key and the Natzy administration are governing for the benefit of themselves and the top end of town at the expense of the remaining citizenry. That is simply not what a democratic government should be elected to do. A country is not a fucking corporation or an investment bank. The electorate needs to wake up. So do opposition parties.

    • Colonial Viper 30.2

      Well, given that expectations were for 400,000 Ferrari sales, 20 seems pretty shit

    • xtasy 30.3

      tsmithfiled: Twisted logic, I must say. A true lefty would ask why there would be any need or justification to buy a Ferrari, being an extremely gas guzzling racing vehicle, being totally uneconomical, and clearly built either for just frivolous or commercially run racing – for the sheer, selfish indulgence of some self-focused, single minded, testosterone driven drivers, who just want to get their “kicks”, disregarding any sense for using their capital and resources for more sensible, efficient and effective modes of transport investment.

  31. felix 31

    I don’t know what all the whinging is about, it’s all gone according to plan.

    The richest 2.5% just got a bit richer and everyone else got fucked.

    • xtasy 31.1

      Exactly, felix, it was all so damned predictable, and it is what is going on day in and out in this country and all over the world. It was only due to the opposition having made this such a big issue, also an emotive one, that so many got all worked up about it.

      There are so many other examples one can take and raise issue with, like public transport ownership, like water supplies, like ferry and train operation and who runs it, like ports, like airports, like this that and the other, and most is now run by private enterprises, by partly owned private investors and otherwise public investors, by a mix of interests, and we have moved so far, this is just another step down the same way, to enable “investors” that have money to put onto the monopoly board, to play with us, to make themselves richer, to allow a few others to participate as small but insignificant share-holders, all designed to divide and rule, to turn more into mere modern day landless peasants and slaves, to work hard and harder, to afford the profits of the few that hold the bulk of ownership.

      Key is a prime player in this, and he and his dumb-wits in National follow him to turn this country further into another little America, that is with a dream for most, that they will never realise, but the selling of the dream is as cunning and successful as selling the same in film format, as done by Hollywood film and entertainment production enterprises.

      They have their “American Dream”, we get sold the “Kiwi Dream”, of perhaps one day striking it lucky also, or at least work hard, harder and yet harder, to save morsels, to one day bake a big cake from. Hah, what a sick joke it is.

    • Colonial Viper 31.2

      I really enjoyed the experience, didn’t you?

  32. xtasy 32

    Kiwi “mum and dad investors”, yeah right, and there are a vast diversity of such mums and dads, also a growing number of singles and couples without children in this country, most of whom would not have the spare bit of “cash” to buy such shares with. So it doomed on many that they could not really afford the shares, after preregistering for them, hence they did not buy any in the end. Only about 26 or so per cent of the preregistered prospective buyers actually signed up to go ahead and buy shares.

    I actually doubt that the “fear” of the NZ Power proposals by Labour and Greens really was the main reason for the numbers to have dwindled down to 113 thousand. Many may also have preregistered, just to get papers to look at what is involved, or to even have the government on.

    I also would not be surprised that there were a fair number of people who signed up for the petition to hold a referendum on the partial asset sales only did so, because they were actually pro government, or indifferent, and signed with fake names, signed twice or more times, or did fail to put in other details, just with the intention to sabotage the referendum efforts.

    Having watched Parliament’s Question Time yesterday was a revelation, about how much spinning and manipulating is going on, and I must say, it is also attempted from the opposition side.

    It is a tiny percentage of New Zealanders who bought shares, who own shares anyway, who have the spare funds, and they are likely to be in their majority Nat voters, ACT voters, other right wingers and self serving upper middle class members, of the ilk like David Peter Farrar (“fart….), who expressed his great excitement about his registered interest, when the price of $ 2.50 per share was announced.

    This is all just more of the same old agenda, of divide and rule, to concentrate the ownership of the assets, shares and property in this country in a few and ever fewer hands and pockets. No surprises, but the mainstream media present it like Joe Average just hit the lotto jackpot, so that must be so goooood and well deserved!

    Or auntie Jane who went to the casino for a night and hit it big, ooh yeah, hooray, wonderful, right?

  33. Green machine UpandComer 33

    self serving upperclassmen?! $2000 in the bank. My mates Dad has 11 kids he fed with his wife looking after them all at home (willingly) while he worked as a janitor and non-union mechanic. He’s bought $5000 worth of shares and is buying more in the next run because he’s sick of inflation eroded bank percentage earnings on term deposits and savings accounts. I’ll have to show him this bloody site so he can read the comments and laugh his head off at being part of the Tory upper class greed merchant Right wing vast conspiracy bankers conglomerates or whatever the hell you are bleating about today. He’s the voter and the reason why the nats are in govt, you guys are from some odd planet.

    • felix 33.1

      What’s a janitor?

    • Colonial Viper 33.2

      So he has not problem with increased money flows going to overseas investors just as long as his family is OK?

      Good to know.

      BTW if this guy has $5K to splash out on this share float, it suggests that he has an investment portfolio of at least $100K.

      Which puts him in the top 10% of NZers.

    • xtasy 33.3

      The few people that I ever met in New Zealand that had around 10 or more kids tended to be mainly religious nutters, who’d fall for any nonsense indoctrinated into them. So let me guess, is he one of such?

      As for him “investing” his savings into MRP shares, he has clearly fallen for the lies of this government and the many share offering financial advisors, who will get their high fees out of him.

      I do not believe your story for starters, as a person cleaning toilets and the likes is unlikely to ever earn enough to feed 13 mouths on his own.

      Come down from your “upper” cloud, dear friend, and tell us true stories, not such fiction nonsense!

  34. Lloyd 34

    I wonder what the conversation was like at the Marae after the muskets and blankets were handed out? “Those whiteys will never use that crappy land? “We really made a killing with all these muskets?”. “The muskets are worth so much more than the land?” “We are better off as result of this land sale?”

    What is the difference with crowing about how much money we made? We lost. Big time.

    We sold what our parents made for us and sold our children’s heritage.

    Anyone who crows about their ‘profit’ of a measly handful of dollars needs to consider that they were willing contributors to a financial insult to every individual in New Zealand. They will probably find that the overall financial outcome in their favour will be negative, with the likely steep rise in electricity prices they are likely to pay in the future as a result of this sale, even with the probable Green/Labour Electricity price control in future

    It has been another neo-liberal insult on the economy of New Zealand.

    I look forward to a day when the country will celebrate an ANZAC style day celebrating the defeat of the evil of neo-liberalism.

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    We will return to our regularly scheduled coverage of party leader’s position on abortion. Meanwhile, this week’s Vote Choice series focuses on what we have heard from supporters across social media. We’ve also listed some interesting resources that can help...
    ALRANZ | 21-08
  • “Dirty Politics” and The Teflon Man
    . . The release of Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Secrets” has unleashed more of a political firestorm than many had anticipated. (Or, perhaps some did.) The glare of publicity has been shone like a laser-beam into the darkest, most noisome...
    Frankly Speaking | 21-08
  • “Dirty Politics” and The Teflon Man
    . . The release of Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Secrets” has unleashed more of a political firestorm than many had anticipated. (Or, perhaps some did.) The glare of publicity has been shone like a laser-beam into the darkest, most noisome...
    Frankly Speaking | 21-08
  • Is Penlink worth it?
    As the Council puts together its 10 year budget over the coming months there will be some really big questions that need to be addressed in the area of transport. When to start City Rail Link? How fast to build...
    Transport Blog | 21-08
  • Abandoning Science – And The Planet
    Weeping For The Planet: The famous "Crying Indian" advertisement, produced by Keeping America Beautiful, struck a deep chord with Americans when it first screened on "Earth Day" - 22 April  1971. It was a time when both the Left and the...
    Bowalley Road | 21-08
  • Peters: With Real Representation, Real Progress
    Speech – New Zealand First Party Early this month, the New Zealand First candidate for Tauranga, Clayton Mitchell, organised a meeting between local city councillors and myself. You will recall that back then he and New Zealand First gave a...
    Its our future | 21-08
  • The Green Party’s campaign video
    The Green Party's 2014 election campaign opening broadcast.A cleaner, fairer, smarter New Zealand.http://greens.org.nz #LoveNZ...
    The Jackal | 21-08
  • DHB industrial action withdrawn, workers to vote on new offer
    The Public Service Association (PSA) has withdrawn notices of industrial action covering 12,000 health workers at District Health Boards (DHBs)...
    PSA | 21-08
  • Required reading: “John Key – The End Game” by Bryan Gou...
    John Key – The End Game             It is one of the wonders of the modern world that the democracy that past generations fought and died for is regarded as of little consequence by those who currently enjoy its benefits.While many...
    Arch Rival | 21-08
  • John Key’s 69 Top Lies: Today no. 30 – Cameron Slater is nothin...
     3News Video John Key talks Nicky Hagers Dirty Politics  As much as John Key may wish it were otherwise, Cameron Slater is part of the National Party. Below is a photo of Cameron Slater's National Party membership card, taken by Cameron Slater himself as...
    Arch Rival | 21-08
  • 2014 – Ongoing jobless tally
    . . Continued from: 2013 – Ongoing jobless tally So by the numbers, for this year, January OceanaGold/Macraes Mine: 146 redundancies Fitzroy Yachts: 100 redundancies OceanaGold: 76 redundancies Tenix: 15 redundancies February Goodman Fielder: 125 redundancies Pacific Steel Group: 70-90 redundancies...
    Frankly Speaking | 21-08
  • 2014 – Ongoing jobless tally
    . . Continued from: 2013 – Ongoing jobless tally So by the numbers, for this year, January OceanaGold/Macraes Mine: 146 redundancies Fitzroy Yachts: 100 redundancies OceanaGold: 76 redundancies Tenix: 15 redundancies February Goodman Fielder: 125 redundancies Pacific Steel Group: 70-90 redundancies...
    Frankly Speaking | 21-08
  • Letter to the Editor: no phones in Hawaii, eh?
    . . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com> to: Sunday Star Times <letters@star-times.co.nz> date: Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:50 PM subject: Letter to the Editor . The editor Sunday Star Times . Key says he was in Hawaii on holiday when...
    Frankly Speaking | 21-08
  • Letter to the Editor: no phones in Hawaii, eh?
    . . from: Frank Macskasy <fmacskasy@gmail.com> to: Sunday Star Times <letters@star-times.co.nz> date: Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:50 PM subject: Letter to the Editor . The editor Sunday Star Times . Key says he was in Hawaii on holiday when...
    Frankly Speaking | 21-08
  • From The Daily Blog: “We can have clean politics and get our democracy ba...
    This is my latest blog, cross-posted from The Daily Blog:   Something is rotten in our politics and it stinks. Dirty politics has sadly become one of the defining features of this election campaign. In the light of recent revelations...
    frogblog | 21-08
  • Poetiquette
    If you catch a bus tomorrow morning you may get a poetry performance for your trip as part of an NZ Bus campaign to improve bus etiquette. National Poetry Day is being celebrated this year with poets in residence onboard...
    Transport Blog | 21-08
  • John Key lied? Still no smoking gun.
    In recent days, John Key has been extensively questioned on what he or his office knew about Cameron Slater’s OIA request to the SIS. He’s steadfastly maintained that although his office was likely informed about the release of the documents...
    Occasionally erudite | 21-08
  • World News Brief, Thursday August 21
    Top of the AgendaVideo Stirs Renewed Concern Over ISIS...
    Pundit | 21-08
  • John Key – The End Game
    It is one of the wonders of the modern world that the democracy that past generations fought and died for is regarded as of little consequence by those who currently enjoy its benefits. While many parts of the world are...
    Bryan Gould | 21-08
  • Cornered Government comes out swinging
    The National Government is so desperate to keep its dead-in-the-water expert teachers policy alive, it has refused to rule out forcing schools to participate through legislation, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “John Key today attacked the Educational Institute for...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Pacific people continue to go backwards under National
    A report from Victoria University highlights the fact that Pacific people are continuing to go backwards under a National Government, said Labour’s Pacific Affairs spokesperson Su’a William Sio.  “The report shows the largest inequality increases were in smoking, obesity, tertiary...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Wellington transport plan needs to keep moving
    The failure of the Transport Agency to properly look at alternatives to the Basin Reserve flyover is not a good reason for further delays to improving transport in Wellington, Labour MPs Grant Robertson and Annette King say. “The Board of...
    Labour | 22-08
  • Labour’s focus on inequality, kids and better job prospects
    Tackling child poverty and removing barriers to people working part time to enhance their prospects of moving into a fulltime job are highlights of Labour’s Social Development policy. Releasing the policy today, spokesperson Sue Moroney said while part-time work was...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Political staff should give answers under oath
    The Inspector General of Security and Intelligence should use her full statutory powers to question witnesses under oath about the leak of SIS information, says Labour MP Phil Goff. “Leakage of confidential information from the SIS for political purposes is...
    Labour | 21-08
  • High dollar, hands-off Govt sends workers to dole queue
    The loss of up to 100 jobs at Croxley stationery in Auckland is devastating news for their families and the local Avondale community, Labour’s Employment, Skills and Training spokesperson Grant Robertson says. “The company’s inability to compete in international markets...
    Labour | 21-08
  • National’s flagship education policy dead in the water
    National’s plan to create executive principals and expert teachers is effectively dead in the water with news that 93 percent of primary teachers have no confidence in the scheme, Labour’s Education spokesperson Chris Hipkins says. “The fact that teachers are...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Dunedin will be a knowledge and innovation centre under Labour
    Dunedin will become a knowledge and innovation centre under a Labour Government that will back local businesses, support technology initiatives and fund dynamic regional projects, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “Nowhere has the National Government’s short-sightedness been more apparently than...
    Labour | 21-08
  • Inquiry into SIS disclosures the right decision
    Labour MP Phil Goff says the Inspector-General of Intelligence and Security has done the right thing by launching an inquiry into the disclosure of SIS documents about a meeting between himself and the agency’s former director-general. “This inquiry is necessary...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Labour – supporting and valuing carers and the cared for
    Placing real value on our elderly and the people who care for them will be a priority for a Labour Government, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. Releasing Labour’s Senior Citizens policy today David Cunliffe promised that a Labour Government would...
    Labour | 20-08
  • By Hoki! It’s Labour’s fisheries policy
    A Labour Government will protect the iconic Kiwi tradition of fishing by improving access to the coast, protecting the rights of recreational fishers and reviewing snapper restrictions, Labour’s Fisheries spokesperson Damien O’Connor says. “Catching a fish from the rocks, beach...
    Labour | 20-08
  • Mighty River – Mighty Profits – Mighty hard to swallow
    Mighty River Power’s profit increase of 84 per cent is simply outrageous, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “Demand for electricity is flat or declining yet the company has made enormous profits. It is the latest power company to celebrate...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Collins’ actions were wrong, not unwise
    John Key’s moral compass remains off-kilter as he cannot bring himself to declare Judith Collins’ actions outright wrong, not simply ‘unwise’, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “Under pressure John Key is finally shifting his stance but his failure to condemn...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Public servants behaving with more integrity than their masters
    The State Services Commission's new report on the integrity of our state services reflects the yawning gap between the behaviour of public servants and that of their political masters, Labour's State Services spokesperson Maryan Street says. “This report, which surveyed...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Phil Twyford Speech to NZCID
    "Labour's plan to build more and build better: how new approaches to housing, transport and urban development will deliver cities that work" Phil Twyford, Labour Party spokesperson on housing, transport, Auckland issues, and cities.  ...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Labour commits to independent Foreign Affairs and Trade
    “Labour is committed to New Zealand’s Foreign Affairs and Trade policy being independent and proactive, Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson David Shearer says. “We are a small but respected country. Our voice and actions count in international affairs. Labour will take a...
    Labour | 19-08
  • Key must sack Collins over abhorrent actions
    The latest revelations that Judith Collins sent the contact details of a public servant to WhaleOil in a desperate attempt to divert media attention from a bad story is abhorrent, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key and Judith Collins...
    Labour | 19-08
  • It’s downhill from here under National
    The forecast drop in exports and predicted halving of growth shows that it’s downhill from here with National, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Growth under this Government peaked in June and halves to two per cent in coming years....
    Labour | 19-08
  • John Key loses moral compass over Collins
    John Key has lost his moral compass over Judith Collins’ involvement with Cameron Slater and lost touch with New Zealanders’ sense of right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Whoever is Prime Minister there are expectations they will not...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Mana Movement General Election 2014 List confirmed
    The MANA List is now confirmed with all the candidates as below (the numbers are the respective Internet MANA rankings). Candidate, Electorate, Internet MANA List Position Hone Harawira, Te Tai Tokerau (1) Annette Sykes, Waiariki (3) John Minto, Mt Roskill (4) Te Hamua Nikora, Ikaroa-Rawhiti...
    Mana | 18-08
  • PREFU likely to confirm dropping exports
    National’s economic management will be put under the spotlight in tomorrow’s PREFU given clear signs the so-called rock star economy has fallen off the stage, with plummeting prices for raw commodity exports, Labour’s Finance spokesperson David Parker says. “Under National,...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Record profits while Kiwis face a cold winter
    The record profits by two of New Zealand’s largest electricity companies will be a bitter pill for New Zealand households who are paying record amounts for their power, says Labour’s Energy spokesperson David Shearer. “No doubt the Key government will...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time for John Key to answer yes or no questions
    John Key’s train-wreck interview on Morning Report shows he is no longer capable of a simple yes or no answer and has lost touch with what’s right and wrong, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “John Key has become so media...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Key must clarify who signed out SIS OIA
    Yet again John Key is proving incapable of answering a simple question on an extremely important issue – this time who signed off Cameron Slater’s fast-tracked SIS OIA request on Phil Goff, said Labour MP Grant Robertson. “John Key’s claim...
    Labour | 18-08
  • Time to invest in our tertiary education system
    A Labour Government will fully review the student support system – including allowances, loans, accommodation support and scholarships – with a view to increasing access and making the system fair, transparent and sustainable, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says....
    Labour | 17-08
  • Labour will facilitate regional Māori economic development agencies
    The next Labour Government will facilitate the creation of regional Māori economic development groups lead by iwi and hapū to work in partnership with business and public agencies as part of its Māori Development policy. “Labour is committed to working towards...
    Labour | 16-08
  • PRIME MINISTER’S DENIAL AT ODDS WITH NATIONAL PARTY STATEMENT
    Labour’s New Zealand Council has today released an email from the General Manager of the National Party that directly contradicts recent statements from the Prime Minister in relation to the 2011 breaches of Labour Party website databases. In his stand-up...
    Labour | 16-08
  • Labour committed to a healthier NZ for all
    A Labour Government will shift the focus of the health system from narrow targets and short term thinking to make public health and prevention a priority, Labour’s health spokesperson Annette King says. Releasing Labour’s full Health policy today she said...
    Labour | 15-08
  • Time Key took responsibility for Collins
    It is well past time for John Key to take some responsibility for the misuse of power and information by his Minister Judith Collins, and follow through on his last warning to her, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “The evidence released...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Dear John, time to answer a few questions… – Harawira
    “When Cameron Slater says about Kim Dotcom ‘I have lots on him…death by a thousand cuts…wait till you see what comes out in coming weeks on that fat c***t’, you have to ask whether this is the same Cameron Slater...
    Mana | 14-08
  • MANA CANDIDATE FOR IKAROA RAWHITI OPENS UP ABOUT SUICIDE
    “This week suicide has claimed yet more lives in whanau and communities in Ikaroa Rawhiti, and my heart goes out to those who are dealing with such a tragic loss”, says MANA candidate for Te Ikaroa Rawhiti, Te Hamua Nikora....
    Mana | 14-08
  • Offshore betting in Labour’s sights
    A Labour Government will clamp down on offshore gambling websites that deprive the local racing industry of funds, Labour’s Racing spokesperson Ross Robertson says. Releasing Labour’s racing policy today, he said betting on offshore websites is a major threat to...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Key has serious questions to answer on Dirty Politics
    John Key must answer the serious questions raised in Nicky Hager’s new book which reveal examples of dirty politics that New Zealanders will be deeply concerned about, Labour MP Grant Robertson says. “Many people will be disturbed by the evidence...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Creating an inclusive society for disabled people
    A Labour Government will provide free annual health checks for people with an intellectual disability, Labour’s Disability Issues spokesperson Ruth Dyson said today in announcing Labour’s Disability Issues policy. “We will also employ another 100 additional special education teachers and...
    Labour | 14-08
  • Media Advisory – MANA name change
    This is to advise all media that on the 24th of July the ‘Mana’ party name was officially changed to ‘MANA Movement’ under the Electoral Act 1993.  The inclusion of the word ‘Movement’ in our name shouldn’t come as a surprise...
    Mana | 13-08
  • New Zealand must help in the growing Iraq crisis
    The humanitarian crisis in Iraq looks certain to get worse before it gets better,” said David Shearer Labour’s Foreign Affairs spokesperson. “New Zealand should urgently pledge increased humanitarian assistance to United Nations agencies and NGOs present on the ground....
    Labour | 13-08
  • Allegations of migrant worker rort should be investigated
    Labour is calling for an investigation into the alleged exploitation of workers at Hutt Railway workshops, hired to repair asbestos-riddled DL locomotives. Hutt South Labour MP Trevor Mallard has written to the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment asking that...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Medical and dentistry students get reprieve under Labour
    A Labour Government will restore the right of medical and dentistry students to get student loans after seven years of study because it is the right thing to do, Labour’s Tertiary Education spokesperson Maryan Street says. “Hard on the heels...
    Labour | 13-08
  • National must stop meddling with ACC before the election
    The redesign currently occurring at the Accident Claims Corporation (ACC) for sensitive claims needs to be put on hold immediately, said the Green Party today.The Green Party is concerned about work currently underway at ACC involving the sensitive claims service...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Markets slow but first home buyers still hurting
    First home buyers are hurting more than ever as the supply of affordable houses in the market dries up, Labour’s Housing spokesperson Phil Twyford says. “The Reserve Bank will be happy LVR minimum deposits and rising interest rates have dampened...
    Labour | 13-08
  • Green Party celebrates MOU win on contaminated sites
    The Green Party is celebrating the announcement of a national register of contaminated sites today, and $2.5 million to start cleaning two sites up. The Green Party and the National Party agreed to include toxic site management work in their...
    Greens | 13-08
  • Emergency staff at breaking point
    The Southern DHB is so cash-strapped it is failing to fill nursing rosters, Labour’s Associate Health spokesperson David Clark says.  “Every day emergency department nurses arrive at work knowing they are likely to be carrying more than their recommended workload. ...
    Labour | 12-08
  • ACC minister fails in mission to change culture
    The latest damning report by the Auditor General shows that the ACC Minister has failed to fulfil her mission to fix the sick culture at ACC and real change will not come till a new Government is elected, the Green...
    Greens | 12-08
  • Labour’s regional development fund to support Palmerston North
    Labour will consider a proposal to develop an inland port at Palmerston North, Labour Leader David Cunliffe says. “The Palmerston North community has developed plans for an inland port which will bring jobs and economic growth to a region which...
    Labour | 12-08
  • Green Party announces priorities for Christchurch
    The Green Party has today announced its plan for a fairer, smarter and more democratic Canterbury rebuild, with a focus on smart transport solutions, restoring local democracy, and keeping Christchurch's assets.The plan sits across all of the Green Party's priorities...
    Greens | 11-08
  • Rock-star economy unplugged by China log jam
    The collapse of log prices due to oversupply in China threatens to wash the gloss off what remains of National's so-called rock-star economy, says Labour Leader David Cunliffe. “Already this year the price of milk solids has plunged by more...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Young job seekers dealt a poor hand
    National's "keep 'em poor" card for young people on a benefit is a sorry substitute for job training, Labour’s Social Development spokesperson Sue Moroney says.  The Government today announced it would extend its payment card scheme to all teen parents...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Labour – achieving change for Kiwi women
    Working towards being a world leader in eliminating violence against women and children will be a priority for a Labour Government. Releasing Labour’s Women’s Affairs policy today spokesperson Carol Beaumont said while Labour had a proud track record of achieving...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Accessible healthcare also affordable
      It is obvious from Tony Ryall’s hasty attack of Labour’s plans to extend free GP visits to older people that he hasn’t bothered to actually read the policy, Labour’s Health spokesperson Annette King says. "Mr Ryall’s response to Labour’s...
    Labour | 11-08
  • Full details of oil execs’ junket revealed
    Full details of a $237,000 taxpayer-funded oil executives' junket in 2011 have emerged.National paid the nearly quarter of a million dollars to wine and dine 11 oil executives in New Zealand during the World Cup.The trip included yachting, wine tasting,...
    Greens | 10-08
  • Steering By The Real: Chris Trotter responds to Paul Buchanan
    WHEN ACADEMICS take to blogging the rest of us best be careful. And when they offer comment on the subject of dirty politics we should all pay attention. I will always remember my history lecturer, Dr Michael Cullen’s, confident dismissal...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • Interview Between Selwyn Manning & Sean Plunket Over SIS Release of OIA...
    During a RadioLive interview between host Sean Plunket and managing director of Multimedia Investments Ltd, journalist Selwyn Manning, a fiery exchange developed after Plunket attempted to “wet flannel” the issue of whether the Prime Minister has been truthful over what...
    The Daily Blog | 22-08
  • “Even though my hours are being cut, my rent doesn’t get cut to compens...
    Fast Food = Slow Pay   Lola is a manager at a major fast food chain. Last year her employer arbitrarily cut her hours from 32 hours to anywhere between 18 and 26 hours each week. “I said I can’t...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Hate Politics has no place in NZ Politics
    I wasn’t going to write about Nicky Hagar’s ‘Dirty Politics’.  There are plenty of policy issues to discuss. Then I read the book, and what it reveals strikes at the very heart of our democracy. My overwhelming feeling is one...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Pak’nSave pull adverts from Whaleoil
    Pak n Save have replied to complaints that their adverts were appearing on hate speech site Whaleoil by deciding to block their adverts from appearing on the site. Their reply… Congratulations for Pak’NSave on making this type of ethical stand. They...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Herald Poll – Why the Greens will hit 15%
    The biggest problem for John Key is that there are swathes of National Party voters who are educated and decent people whom will be forced to read Dirty Politics out of intellectual curiosity and will be horrified by what National...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Coalition for Better Broadcasting – Dirty Politics and Dirty Media
    The Nicky Hager book is mind blowing on so many levels. The revelations of government ministers and their staff colluding with vile and hateful schemers to attack other people, is truly ugly. When the dust settles on the illegalities, immoralities...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • “You just have to keep on fighting” – an interview with Metiria Turei
    We’re meeting in her office. It’s austere, though she does have a nice teapot. The view is startling. One can map the Bowen Triangle, though the teapot is still more interesting. A group of pink faced men are running across...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Taxation and Real Estate – turning housing debate on its head
    The debate about property prices in New Zealand is disingenuous. It is clear that there is a global process in which speculators are using massive amounts of unspent and borrowed money to blow bubbles in the world’s major asset markets....
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Michael Wood – Faith and politics
    In a week which has seen our collective focus shift to those who see politics as a great game to be manipulated for their own ends, it is timely to reflect on the fact that many people are in fact...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Government’s Own Guidelines Show John Key Would Have Been Informed Of SIS...
    Analysis by Selwyn Manning. INFORMATION THAT I HAVE ACQUIRED, sourced from the State Services Commission, states in black and white the tight guideline requirements that must be followed whenever the SIS informs a Prime Minister of any pending release of...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Simply Not Credible: Dr Tucker’s “clarifications” are only making thi...
    THAT DR WARREN TUCKER, Director of the Security Intelligence Service in 2011, agreed to the release of politically sensitive material – thereby intervening in an on-going contretemps between the leaders of the National and Labour parties – without receiving the...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • The Donghua Liu Affair: Evidence of Collusion between the NZ Herald and Imm...
    . 1. Prologue . The Donghua Liu Affair hit  the headlines on 18 June, with allegations that David Cunliffe wrote a letter in 2003,  on  behalf of  business migrant, Donghua Liu. Four days later, on Sunday 22 June, the Herald...
    The Daily Blog | 21-08
  • Dear Canon NZ – Malevolence should induce revulsion, it shouldn’t be ce...
    Giovanni Tiso’s analysis on Slater is possibly the best in NZ… It’s been a good week for some of us. A week of feeling vindicated, offeeling galvanised. Where it goes from here will depend on several factors, some of which are largely...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • 5AA Australia: After Dirty Politics Can National Provide Stable Government?
    AS WE ALL KNOW New Zealanders and Australians do not like political parties that are unstable, or can no longer assure us that they are able to provide stable government. And the big question for Kiwis as we prepare to...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • SIS letter means it’s over for Key
    It’s over. I may not agree with all of Phil Goff’s positions, but you can’t question his integrity the way Slater did in Dirty Politics and not be deeply concerned that our Secret Intelligence Agency is being used for political...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • who to vote for in Epsom
    who to vote for in Epsom...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • The Rise and Fall of John Key – who will be the next leader of National P...
    . . It was all set to go: Teamkey would be the cult of personality that would do Stalin, Mao, Reagan, Thatcher, or any of the Nth Korean Kim Dynasty, proud.  National and it’s “Teamkey” propaganda strategy   would cash-in Big Time...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Who said Kiwis couldn’t get a fire in their bellies over an arcane intern...
    An amazing team of activists has taken the campaign on the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement (TPPA) to local governments throughout the country. Their latest triumph came last Monday when the Dunedin City Council endorsed a resolution expressing concern about the TPPA...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National’s Dangerous Education Agenda Exposed
    Putting aside the dirty politics coming out of the Beehive and the right-wing blogisphere, there are some very strong signals that another term of a National Government would do even more serious damage to the public education system. The Education...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • We can have clean politics and get our democracy back.
    Something is rotten in our politics and it stinks. Dirty politics has sadly become one of the defining features of this election campaign. In the light of recent revelations about the extent of nasty and disingenuous political strategies, it would...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Book burning copies of Hager’s book? The next generation of National Part...
    It seems we are getting the next generation of National Party Dirty Politics now. There are claims the Young Nats in Hamilton are buying up copies of Dirty Politics and burning them. One witness was contacted by the Waikato Times...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • National Party Poetry Day Haiku
    Key’s inbox and Cam’s poison most foul, there he blows hoist by own harpoon...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Why Cunliffe will be the next PM
    David Cunliffe will be the next Prime Minister of NZ. Labour’s inclusive and positive TV adverts… …are in stark contrast to National’s team of white people powering away from the rabble of the ‘others’… …the messaging is vital and crucial...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • From smiling assassin to grumpy butcher – on giving Judith Collins a last...
    After #dirtypolitics Key isn’t the smiling assassin, he is the grumpy butcher. When he said Judith had  a ‘last chance’ he meant 1 second after voting closes on 20th September. Key would love nothing more than to cut Collins loose and end...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • If the National Party rowing advert was real….
    If the National Party rowing advert was real there would be more blood in the water. If the National Party rowing advert was real it would be Cameron Slater calling the strokes. If the national Party rowing advert was real,...
    The Daily Blog | 20-08
  • Cameron Slater: Zionist and political pundit
    It is hard to know where to start with right-wing blogger Cameron Slater (Whale Oil), especially after the release of Nicky Hager’s book Dirty Politics. This confirmed everything many of us thought Slater to be: a snivelling pundit who serves...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Bryce Edwards stood down from Herald for election season??? Are the editors...
    I only found this out via twitter last night and I am still in shock. Bryce Edwards, easily the best critical thinker and news analyst the NZ Herald has has been stood down by the NZ Herald ‘for the election...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • So who’s a “conspiracy theorist” now?!
    . . As the media storm over Nicky Hager’s book, “Dirty Politics“,  and allegations over smear campaigns continue to swirl,  National’s spin doctors have given Key, Collins, and other National Party ministers a string of  phrases to use in all...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Momentum shift
    When you are deeply immersed in a local campaign sometimes it can be difficult to see the helicopter view.   I don’t know how accurate the political polls are and have always known that things can change quickly in politics...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Dear Toby Manhire. Bad call on backing Farrar
    Oh dear. I say this as someone who regards Toby Manhire as one of the smartest journalists/commentators/columnists this country has, and I think Toby has made a terribly dumb call here. Let’s see if Toby is still singing Farrar’s praises...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Radio NZ apologise to me for getting it wrong
    Radio NZ have contacted me, reviewed the claim by their host that I had an advance copy of Nicky Hager’s book and they have concluded they got it wrong, they have called me and apologised and will make a statement...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Reclaim UoA – Students’ Message to Steven Joyce
    Tertiary Education – we’ve been sold a lemon  A group of 30 students attended an event on Tuesday evening about ‘the future of tertiary education’ at which the Minister of Tertiary Education Steven Joyce was slated to speak. As Joyce...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Can someone in the media please ask the PM of NZ to categorically deny any ...
    Now we see the MO of Slater & Co, the setting up, the digging for dirt, the use of staff to dig that dirt, can the Prime Minister of NZ categorically deny any National Party staff worked with Cam Slater...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Panic setting in for National as they realise what’s about to happen
    And the terror starts to set in. I’ve never seen blind panic like this before  and it’s spreading as the enormity of what’s about to happen starts to sink in. Hager’s book is a mere entree, Nicky’s personal ethics wouldn’t...
    The Daily Blog | 19-08
  • Hager’s Dirty Politics: what the book ultimately reveals is abuse of powe...
    Guide to the many faces of John Key Nicky’s book is now doing what I suspected it would do, create a shockwave of revulsion. Andrew Geddis over at Pundit Blog sums up this attitude best, and it’s reverberations build with every...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Fancy taking children seriously
    Let’s see why all political parties should pay close attention to the Green Party’s policy for children. First, it is a comprehensive attempt to put children, not ideology, at the heart of family policy. Wow, children at the heart of...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Amnesty International: Dear Azerbaijan, Stop Torture, Love Kiwi Kids
    This is a world where many adults often underestimate Generation Y. Being only a few years out of being a teenager myself, I feel I can make this statement with certainty. However, I have been the Youth Intern at Amnesty...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GCSB meetings today in Christchurch 1pm at Uni 7pm at Cathedral
    The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. 1pm at Canterbury University bottom floor James Height Building: Chair: Bomber Bradbury Ruth Dyson – Labour Party...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about
    Things that 7 Sharp should probably be talking about...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Guide to when Key is lying
    Guide to when Key is lying...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • GUEST BLOG: Kate Davis – The State of the Student Nation …or is just Al...
    Students politics are dead and our student media is in terminal decline. The most disappointing thing about university is the politics, or should I say lack of? I was raised with the idea that students held the power.They were the...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Love Lifts Us Up: Thoughts from the Green Party’s campaign launch.
    Author Eleanor Catton wants people to give their party vote to the Greens.Photo by Peter Meecham NO ONE WAS QUITE SURE how he did it. Somehow Bob Harvey had persuaded the owners of the rights to Joe Cocker’s Up Where...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Test Stream
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    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • LIVE STREAM: You, Me and the GCSB ChCh Public Meetings
    LIVE STREAM EVENT here at 1pm & 7pm: The 2014 GCSB meetings to discuss the mass surveillance state legislation passed by this Government will be debated in Christchurch today at two different meetings. PLEASE NOTE: TDB recommends Chrome and Firefox...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking rant on Radio Hauraki: Today,
    Jeremy Wells’ Mike Hosking on Radio Hauraki...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • How @whaledump might destroy the popular vote for National
    Dirty Politics is now creating a meltdown and National are in danger of a total vote collapse. The real threat to for National was if Nicky had all the emails released via the anonymous hacker who took them. That danger is now a...
    The Daily Blog | 18-08
  • Open letter to Radio NZ – you need to make a retraction now
    I have just sent this off to Radio NZ right now Dear Radio NZ Firstly, what a great interview by Guyon Espiner this morning with the Prime Minister. Great to see such hard hitting journalism. Unfortunately I am not contacting...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Radio NZ are lying about me
    I am getting this all second hand at the moment as I don’t bother listening to Radio NZ (except for that wonderful Wallace Chapman in the weekends) but there is a claim that Suzie Ferguson just insinuated on Radio NZ...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Farrar’s fake claim of being invaded + Slater’s claims of death threats...
    The counter spin to avoid focus on the series allegations made in Nicky Hager’s Dirty Politics continues. David Farrar’s ridiculous hysterics that he was invaded and his privacy has been blah blah blah has all been reduced from computer hacking to...
    The Daily Blog | 17-08
  • Te Kuiti man imprisoned for images of young children
    A Te Kuiti man caught with pictures of children being sexually abused has been sentenced to ten months imprisonment. Sickness beneficiary Daniel James Parry, 35, appeared for sentence in the Tauranga District Court today (Friday) after pleading guilty...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Japan Maritime Training Squadron visit – Open Day, Band
    • The Japan Maritime Self-Defence Force Training Squadron will make port in Auckland from Wednesday 3 September to Saturday 6 September...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • MP Perk Transparency Needed
    The Taxpayers’ Union is slamming the increase in taxpayer-funded entitlements for MPs and their families published on the legislation website this afternoon . Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Debating the future of Auckland’s housing
    With only weeks until the General Election, Auckland’s mounting housing crisis will be put under the spotlight in an Election Debate hosted by the School of Architecture and Planning at the University of Auckland. The debate’s topic “Market forces...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Let’s sort this out – Human Rights Commission
    A Whangarei woman allegedly censured for greeting customers with Kia ora can get in touch with the Human Rights Commission says Race Relations Commissioner Dame Susan Devoy. “We really need to resolve these kinds of issues. I had thought that...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Aged Care Association welcomes Labour’s wages policy
    The New Zealand Aged Care Association welcomes the Labour Party’s announcement that if elected, it will raise the minimum wage for aged care workers within its first 100 days in Government....
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Honorary doctorate for Secretary-General of the UN
    An Honorary Doctor of Laws degree is to be bestowed on His Excellency Mr Ban Ki-moon, Secretary-General of the United Nations, by the University of Auckland on Wednesday 3 September, both in recognition of his role as an international statesman...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Surveillance of Mr Upul Jayasuriya
    The New Zealand Bar Association joins the International Bar Association (IBA) and other Law Societies and Bar Associations worldwide over the reported surveillance of Mr Upul Jayasuriya, President of the Bar Association of Sri Lanka....
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Bob Parker, China State Media and Tibet Forum
    Former Christchurch mayor was signed up to position statement without his knowledge; observed “happiness” in Tibet as Tibetan protesters elsewhere shot by security forces...
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • “Walk the talk to reduce the wage gap”
    There’s just a few weeks left to convince the candidates of all political parties that reducing the wage gaps makes good sense....
    Scoop politics | 22-08
  • Digital Currency on the Drawing Board
    Government policies and digital currency ideas and issues will come together at three public workshops next week....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • NZ Cycle Trail welcomes $8 million fund
    Government funding of $8 million to maintain and enhance the Great Rides of New Zealand will help ensure the trails are delivering the best possible visitor experience, says Evan Freshwater, Manager Nga Haerenga The New Zealand Cycle Trail Inc. (NZCT)....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Judges Comments Bonkers – McVicar
    Napier Conservative Party Candidate Garth McVicar is accusing a Judge of forgetting that he is the gate-keeper for the community and not a benevolent caregiver for law breakers. "The comments by this Judge are not just alarming, they're completely...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Oxfam: World must suspend arms sales to protect civilians
    As the New Zealand Government prepares to ratify the global Arms Trade Treaty, and after ceasefire talks collapsed and violence erupted yet again in Gaza yesterday, Oxfam is calling on all states to immediately suspend transfers of arms or ammunition...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Degrees in Picking up Rubbish
    Responding to the Fairfax media report of a University of Otago survey of Wellington’s street-connected walkways, Taxpayers’ Union Executive Director Jordan Williams says:...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Another Union row
    “ The teachers union the NZEA is getting ready for another industrial dispute. These disputes now only occur in the government sector. National has no one to blame but themselves” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Whyte: Speech to Grey Power
    National’s failure to increase the age for super and reform health is a threat to every New Zealander’s security....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Local Govt should not go into business
    “No one should take any comfort from the fact that “Infracon”, a roading company in Tararua and Central Hawke's Bay, is to go into liquidation. This puts the future of more than 200 jobs in doubt. ACT sympathises with those...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Join the hikoi to end child poverty in New Zealand
    CPAG is calling on people across society to join a march from Britomart to Aotea Square in Auckland to demand action on child poverty in Aotearoa....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Ngapuhi Chair Says Enough of the Political Sideshow
    Time for side-shows to end so we can focus on future of our nation – Raniera (Sonny) Tau, Chairman, Te Runanga A Iwi O Ngapuhi...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Commissioner of Police v Kim Dotcom And Ors
    An order is made extending the duration of the registration of the restraining orders issued by the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia on 10 and 25 January 2012 and registered in New Zealand on 18...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Labour Announcement on Future of Hillside Workshops Welcome
    Labour leader David Cunliffe’s announcement in Dunedin today that a government led by his party would re-open Hillside Railway workshops was welcomed by the Rail and Maritime Transport Union (RMTU). ‘Since the workshops were shut down in late...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Primary teachers and principals vote to put kids first
    Teachers and principals have voted overwhelmingly against the Government’s controversial “Investing in Educational Success” policy, including proposed highly-paid principal and teacher roles....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Prime Time with Sean Plunkett: Educating for Success
    In all the turmoil stirred up by the "Dirty Politics" revelations, the real issues that the campaign should be about have been put to one side....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Dirty Politics – Number One Bestseller and Back in Stores
    An exposé of the hidden side of New Zealand politics, Nicky Hager's book, Dirty Politics , has been in hot demand since its release last Wednesday....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Epsom: profiling NZ’s most controversial electorate
    Welcome to the wealthy inner Auckland electorate of Epsom: home of coat-tailing, the Tea Tapes, a convicted outgoing MP... and heavy newspaper and magazine readership....
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • Families Free From Violence campaign and website
    We are pleased to announce the launch of our Families Free From Violence campaign and our new Families Free From Violence website. This website has been created to encourage people to take responsibility for ending family violence by seeking help...
    Scoop politics | 21-08
  • PSA And DHBs Reach Settlement on Five Collective Agreements
    The 20 District Health Boards are pleased to reach settlement via mediation on five Multi Employer Collective Agreements (MECAs) with the Public Service Association for 12,000 mental and public health nurses, allied, public health and technical staff,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Refusal to complete census results in 46 convictions
    Failing to fill out a census form has resulted in the convictions of 46 people, Statistics New Zealand said today....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Council Amalgamations Still Bad Deal
    Northland, Bay of Plenty, and Wellington ratepayers should not be seduced into accepting the amalgamation of their Councils by a recent amendment to legislation allowing for local boards not community boards, Chris Leitch, Democrats for Social Credit...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • DHB industrial action withdrawn
    The Public Service Association (PSA) has withdrawn notices of industrial action covering 12,000 health workers at District Health Boards (DHBs) across New Zealand, after progress was made in mediation....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Aged Care Pledge Needs Better Target, Says Care Agency
    Labour’s pledge to set up an aged care working group to address industry concerns is good to see, but appears to skirt the obvious issue of a looming lack of beds and carers for our rapidly growing elderly population, says...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Social inequality still rife in New Zealand
    Social inequality has worsened over the past decade in New Zealand, a new study from Victoria University of Wellington shows....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Working towards a living wage and more Māori in paid work
    The Māori Party will build on the gains it has already achieved in Government and accelerate job opportunities particularly for young Māori....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Deepwater Group Supports Changes to Catch Limits
    The Deepwater Group says the increase in the Total Allowable Commercial Catch for hoki shows the benefits of a long term commitment to build biomass in this major New Zealand fishery....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Ohariu candidate Sean Fitzpatrick
    “Our Ohariu candidate will be Sean Fitzpatrick. Sean has strong ties to the region and I’m glad to hear he will be doing his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the area,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • ACT announces Tauranga candidate Stuart Pederson
    “Our Tauranga candidate will be Stuart Pedersen. Stuart has strong ties to Tauranga and I’m glad he has agreed to do his best to grow ACT’s party vote in the electorate,” says Dr Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party scores massive own goal
    Green Party scores massive own goal as their own policy auditor criticises their fiscal plan...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Green Party’s own Auditor of their Budget finds it dodgy
    “The Alternative Budget released by the Green's does not even stack up in the eyes of their chosen auditor – Infometrics” said ACT Leader Dr Jamie Whyte....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • New shark finning laws fall short for threatened species
    Environmental groups are welcoming some aspects of a raft of law changes announced today in relation to shark finning, but say that overall the chance for New Zealand to catch up with international efforts in shark conservation is being missed....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Promoting Labour’s Positive Policies
    General Secretary of the New Zealand Labour Party, Tim Barnett, today launched Labour’s television advertisements for the 2014 election. The advertisements help tell Labour’s positive story for a better New Zealand....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Drug Court: Rare Insight into New Alternative Justice Model
    Māori Television’s latest New Zealand documentary presents a fascinating look inside a new alternative justice model – through the stories of convicted criminals....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Political parties pledge to increase overseas aid
    A survey of political parties looking at how much New Zealand should spend on Official Development Assistance (ODA) shows the overwhelming majority of parties are committed to raising the bar according to the Council for International Development (CID)....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Top Kiwis backing Tip the Scales campaign
    Sir Graham Henry, former All Black Kees Meeuws, singer-song writer Jamie McDell and fishing guru Matt Watson have pledged their support to Tip the Scales, a pre-election campaign generating public support for rebuilding New Zealand’s depleted inshore...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Maritime Union continues to press over dirty politics
    Maritime Union National President Garry Parsloe says Ports of Auckland management is trying to get off the hook from its involvement with extreme right wing bloggers during the Ports of Auckland dispute....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • No end in sight to overwhelming human cost of conflict
    Two ceasefires have brought some respite to civilians in Gaza and southern Israel, amid hope that a durable cessation of hostilities might occur. In Gaza, these breaks in the fighting have barely given people enough time to seek medical care,...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Young Kiwi speakers to represent NZ at Gallipoli 2015
    The RSA is delighted at the announcement made by Veterans' Affairs Minister Michael Woodhouse today, that all eight regional finalists of the 2015 ANZ RSA Cyril Bassett VC Speech Competition will be included in a group of 25 Youth Ambassadors...
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • “Bromance” Marriage Stunt Insulting Says LegaliseLove
    A promotional competition asking two best mates to get married in order to win an all-expenses-paid trip to the 2015 Rugby World Cup is insulting, marriage equality campaign LegaliseLove Aotearoa claims....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • Cannabis Party first to register for 2014 General Election
    The Aotearoa Legalise Cannabis Party became the first party to register for the 2014 General Election today, when it meet with the Electoral Commission in Wellington at Midday....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
  • PGA: Addresses NZ’s ratification of Arms Trade Treaty
    President of Parliamentarians for Global Action and New Zealand MP Ross Robertson today addressed a celebration to mark New Zealand’s imminent ratification of the Arms Trade Treaty (ATT), which is expected within the next few weeks....
    Scoop politics | 20-08
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