Comments on: Sensible Sentencing: Disgusting

By: Friday quiz - late edition at The Standard

Friday quiz - late edition at The Standard — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:11:58 +0000

[...] a) The property owner has every right to defend their property. Anyone sneaking around on someone else’s property is asking for trouble. The property owner should not be punished – it’s the intruder’s fault they’re dead, the property owner was only expressing “his frustration over the issue“. [...]

By: Institutional racism at The Standard 2.02

Institutional racism at The Standard 2.02 — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 03:23:59 +0000

[...] he certainly would not have gained the enthusiastic support of the so-called Sensible Sentencing Trust, whose spokesman Garth McVicar defended Emery [...]

By: The Standard 2.01: Open democracy?

The Standard 2.01: Open democracy? — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:57:03 +0000

[...] more considered and sensible attitude that the Sensible Sentencing Trust who, as you may remember, endorsed the murder of a child because he was a [...]

By: Kurariki on home detention at The Standard 2.01

Kurariki on home detention at The Standard 2.01 — Tue, 06 May 2008 00:11:01 +0000

[...] doubt, there will be hollow cries of outrage from Simon Power and Sensible Sentencing over Bailey Kurariki being transferred from jail to home detention for the last months of his [...]

By: Mythbusting: Crime is down, not up at The Standard 2.01

Mythbusting: Crime is down, not up at The Standard 2.01 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:16:15 +0000

[...] It’s hard to know why people keep interviewing Garth McVicar from Sensible Sentencing. The organisation has no credibility, no research every statement on policy is really just â€˜Garth guesses X’. And of course, they made those disgusting comments around the death of Pihema Cameron. [...]

By: Matthew Pilott

Matthew Pilott — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:25:34 +0000

We could combine the tagging-is-not-art concept with the artistic-nuts-kick, and everyone would be happy – apart from taggers with sore nuts.

By: Ari

Ari — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:32:52 +0000

Milt- Steve is saying that the MOTIVE you question is also a matter of public record, not just the fact of the killing. Thus stating a killing along with the motive on record should not be considered controversial.

Billy- Is your last name Clinton, by any chance? Just wondering.
Seriously though, I agree with some of what Hillary said- artistic Graffiti is okay on bland, undecorated public spaces. I’d much rather see these painted by the community- even if just improvisationally- than simply blank. That said, I think we ought to invite people to do so in predetermined places, rather than accept uninvited art.

Tagging/graffiti on private property is almost categorically unacceptable.

By: Billy

Billy — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:05:06 +0000

If he told me he wanted a nuts-kick with artisstic merit, maybe.

By: Pascal's bookie

Pascal's bookie — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:43:59 +0000

I think that was understood Billy.

Does knowing the Dalai Lama is a pacifist make you want to meet with him so you can give someone a consequence free kick in the nuts?

By: Billy

Billy — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 09:33:41 +0000

No, dummy. I want to tag your fence. Since you don’t care I don’t expect you to have a problem with that. Or was that just bravado?

By: Jay

Jay — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:16:13 +0000

“You sound really cool and neato, Hillary. What’s your address?”

Better yet what’s your licence plate number? Watching the news several weeks there was a story on how ‘etching’ seems to have become the newest trend as well as forcing the replacement of windows for businesses costing thousands of dollars. Given your stance on this behaviour I’m sure you’d like to be on the cutting edge of this new urban artform.

By: Hillary

Hillary — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:41:08 +0000

Why, do you want to go on a date Billy?

By: Billy

Billy — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:16:49 +0000

You sound really cool and neato, Hillary. What’s your address?

By: Hillary

Hillary — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:54:32 +0000

RJS131, what exactly would you be worried about if someone wasn’t upset if their property was tagged? I wouldn’t be particularly worried if someone tagged my fence, although I would prefer they did something with artistic merit. I haven’t had my property tagged, but I have been burgled and it didn’t bother me too much. I feel incredibly fortunate to have a nice home, but I’m not going to get bitter and twisted if something happens to it. I am very aware that the majority of people in the world, including many New Zealanders own very little private property.

killinginthenameof, no I haven’t fortunately.

By: Steve Pierson

Steve Pierson — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:46:03 +0000

psycho. read the accounts. there’s no dispute that of the facts I’ve given – those facts do not necessarily make Emery guilty of murder, there are a number of defences that are possibly applicable and if they do apply they would mean it was not murder, that would not change the fact Emery killed Cameron..