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	<title>Comments on: Sensible Sentencing Trust and GEO Group, a deafening silence</title>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122498</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I&#039;ll look out for it. This is such an interesting topic - the question of hidden lobbying and PR. I think it is something that we&#039;ll refer to often over the next few years until we get an answer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I&#8217;ll look out for it. This is such an interesting topic &#8211; the question of hidden lobbying and PR. I think it is something that we&#8217;ll refer to often over the next few years until we get an answer</p>
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		<title>By: teitei</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122490</link>
		<dc:creator>teitei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;[deleted]&lt;/strong&gt; why&#039;d you take my comment off?&lt;strong&gt; [deleted]&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;[lprent: because you are banned for previous stupid comments. Adding you to the auto-moderation. Read &lt;a href=&quot;/policy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;policy&lt;/a&gt; and stop being a fuckwit]&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>[deleted]</strong> why&#8217;d you take my comment off?<strong> [deleted]</strong></p>
<p><strong>[lprent: because you are banned for previous stupid comments. Adding you to the auto-moderation. Read <a href="/policy" rel="nofollow">policy</a> and stop being a fuckwit]</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Pascal's bookie</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122466</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal's bookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 19:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris Trotter&#039;s ODT column is on this today, though he doesn&#039;t credit any bloggers, sigh.

It&#039;s good, but he takes a cutesy allegorical route to avoid naming names. Which means he can&#039;t include the fact that after the questions are put, the SST responded without answering. 

It should be up on his blog at some point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Trotter&#8217;s ODT column is on this today, though he doesn&#8217;t credit any bloggers, sigh.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good, but he takes a cutesy allegorical route to avoid naming names. Which means he can&#8217;t include the fact that after the questions are put, the SST responded without answering. </p>
<p>It should be up on his blog at some point.</p>
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		<title>By: mickysavage</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122437</link>
		<dc:creator>mickysavage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the SST has a problem.  I have hopefully drafted a more coherent response on my blog at 

http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2009/03/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-charities.html

Strike one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the SST has a problem.  I have hopefully drafted a more coherent response on my blog at </p>
<p><a href="http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2009/03/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-charities.html" rel="nofollow">http://waitakerenews.blogspot.com/2009/03/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-charities.html</a></p>
<p>Strike one?</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122433</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 08:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be lazy. Go back to the original post. 

The question was that since the GEO Group donated to groups in the US advocating changes to sentencing, were they doing the same for a group in NZ that espouse exactly the same changes.

Since those changes would benefit the operation of a private prisons, and GEO Group is trying to run private prisons here, it is a question that has some relevance to the transparency of policy making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be lazy. Go back to the original post. </p>
<p>The question was that since the GEO Group donated to groups in the US advocating changes to sentencing, were they doing the same for a group in NZ that espouse exactly the same changes.</p>
<p>Since those changes would benefit the operation of a private prisons, and GEO Group is trying to run private prisons here, it is a question that has some relevance to the transparency of policy making.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Holland</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122380</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Holland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If I speculated that the SST had themes similar to some Islamic groups espousing elements of Sharia&#039;h law and then they did not either confirm or deny, does that make it true?&quot;

Instead of speculating yourself, why don&#039;t you make those claims and see if the DO confirm or deny. 

I suspect you know full well they will deny it.... now why don&#039;t they do the same to the much less wild speculation on their funding?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If I speculated that the SST had themes similar to some Islamic groups espousing elements of Sharia&#8217;h law and then they did not either confirm or deny, does that make it true?&#8221;</p>
<p>Instead of speculating yourself, why don&#8217;t you make those claims and see if the DO confirm or deny. </p>
<p>I suspect you know full well they will deny it&#8230;. now why don&#8217;t they do the same to the much less wild speculation on their funding?</p>
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		<title>By: Draco T Bastard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122379</link>
		<dc:creator>Draco T Bastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... The SST is breaking the law?

I say we throw the book at them, &lt;i&gt;THE BOOK&lt;/i&gt; I tells ya...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; The SST is breaking the law?</p>
<p>I say we throw the book at them, <i>THE BOOK</i> I tells ya&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris G</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122353</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never seen an SST supporter wandering around the streets with a donation bucket... thats for sure.

Come to think of it I dont think I&#039;ve &lt;i&gt;ever &lt;/i&gt; seen an SST supporter other than Garth McVicar.

Confused? I definately am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never seen an SST supporter wandering around the streets with a donation bucket&#8230; thats for sure.</p>
<p>Come to think of it I dont think I&#8217;ve <i>ever </i> seen an SST supporter other than Garth McVicar.</p>
<p>Confused? I definately am.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122307</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quit pussy footing around. Legalize substances and deal with it what happens or get serious with this prohibition experiment. 

Random house to house searches of everyone everywhere will show us who the law breakers are. On the spot executions (bullet to the head) of everyone found in possession of detectable molecules of illegal plants will send a powerful message and will quickly lower the number of evil doers in the world.

Mass exterminations are clean and simple. Mass incarcerations are just a big mess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quit pussy footing around. Legalize substances and deal with it what happens or get serious with this prohibition experiment. </p>
<p>Random house to house searches of everyone everywhere will show us who the law breakers are. On the spot executions (bullet to the head) of everyone found in possession of detectable molecules of illegal plants will send a powerful message and will quickly lower the number of evil doers in the world.</p>
<p>Mass exterminations are clean and simple. Mass incarcerations are just a big mess.</p>
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		<title>By: XChequer</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122211</link>
		<dc:creator>XChequer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question.

Why, because they (the SST) are not declaring their donors does it mean that the CEO Group is a donor?

Where is the link or evidence?

If I speculated that the SST had themes similar to some Islamic groups espousing elements of Sharia&#039;h law and then they did not either confirm or deny, does that make it true?

It&#039;s all just wild (extremely wild) speculation.

XChequer
http://thenzhomeoffice.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question.</p>
<p>Why, because they (the SST) are not declaring their donors does it mean that the CEO Group is a donor?</p>
<p>Where is the link or evidence?</p>
<p>If I speculated that the SST had themes similar to some Islamic groups espousing elements of Sharia&#8217;h law and then they did not either confirm or deny, does that make it true?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all just wild (extremely wild) speculation.</p>
<p>XChequer<br />
<a href="http://thenzhomeoffice.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thenzhomeoffice.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122209</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 05:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nah it looks like it is just a dog of a site to load. Also technically incompetent to load it down with twitter and facebook slowdowns. He should have a look at his site with tools to look at the delay points. Boy that guy knows how to downgrade a site.

Nope - I think that press release of McVicar&#039;s is too literate to be a product of Cameron Slater. Besides it doesn&#039;t have a boob shot to try and raise site awareness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nah it looks like it is just a dog of a site to load. Also technically incompetent to load it down with twitter and facebook slowdowns. He should have a look at his site with tools to look at the delay points. Boy that guy knows how to downgrade a site.</p>
<p>Nope &#8211; I think that press release of McVicar&#8217;s is too literate to be a product of Cameron Slater. Besides it doesn&#8217;t have a boob shot to try and raise site awareness</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122206</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do.. All $160 per month + GST funded by that radical leftie Lynn Prentice. Looks like it will drop to less than $30 per month after I site offshore to avoid S92A problems.

Actually most people on the left seem to consider that I&#039;m a conservative or even a neo-lib. Has something to do with the dinky sports-car, business background, MBA etc.

I just have a complete intolerance for fools. That also means I avoid the &#039;right&#039; like the stuck in the past plague that they are, and makes me wonder about a nutter who can put out the type of press release that McVicar did. It is almost a d4j level. In fact it looks like the work of the bloated one. I was going over to have a look at style, but it looks like Cameron&#039;s site is offline again. Technically incompetent...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do.. All $160 per month + GST funded by that radical leftie Lynn Prentice. Looks like it will drop to less than $30 per month after I site offshore to avoid S92A problems.</p>
<p>Actually most people on the left seem to consider that I&#8217;m a conservative or even a neo-lib. Has something to do with the dinky sports-car, business background, MBA etc.</p>
<p>I just have a complete intolerance for fools. That also means I avoid the &#8216;right&#8217; like the stuck in the past plague that they are, and makes me wonder about a nutter who can put out the type of press release that McVicar did. It is almost a d4j level. In fact it looks like the work of the bloated one. I was going over to have a look at style, but it looks like Cameron&#8217;s site is offline again. Technically incompetent&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mickysavage</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122200</link>
		<dc:creator>mickysavage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What they are saying is presumably factually correct but if someone was so motivated they could still complain to the Charities Commission.  Section 37 appears to stop any entity advertising that they are charitable unless they are registered under the new Act.

Also the Charities website states under reasons for seeking registration &quot;[o]nly charities registered with the Charities Commission can call themselves a &quot;registered charitable entity&quot; and display their unique Charities Commission registration number.&quot;

The link is at http://www.charities.govt.nz/guidance/unregistered.html#should_i_apply_to_register</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What they are saying is presumably factually correct but if someone was so motivated they could still complain to the Charities Commission.  Section 37 appears to stop any entity advertising that they are charitable unless they are registered under the new Act.</p>
<p>Also the Charities website states under reasons for seeking registration &#8220;[o]nly charities registered with the Charities Commission can call themselves a &#8220;registered charitable entity&#8221; and display their unique Charities Commission registration number.&#8221;</p>
<p>The link is at <a href="http://www.charities.govt.nz/guidance/unregistered.html#should_i_apply_to_register" rel="nofollow">http://www.charities.govt.nz/guidance/unregistered.html#should_i_apply_to_register</a></p>
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		<title>By: mickysavage</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122198</link>
		<dc:creator>mickysavage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops I should have said &quot;charitable trust under the Charitable Trusts Act 1957&quot; and not &quot;company&quot; although the certificate of incorporation says it was &quot;incorporated under the Companies Act ... and was registered as a charitable trust (Shares (limited liability) ...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops I should have said &#8220;charitable trust under the Charitable Trusts Act 1957&#8243; and not &#8220;company&#8221; although the certificate of incorporation says it was &#8220;incorporated under the Companies Act &#8230; and was registered as a charitable trust (Shares (limited liability) &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: lprent</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sensible-sentencing-trust-and-geo-group-a-deafening-silence/comment-page-1/#comment-122196</link>
		<dc:creator>lprent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 04:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm that press release says

&lt;blockquote&gt;The Sensible Sentencing Trust is a registered charitable trust with IRD approved donee status&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Be interesting to figure out the actual status. But the effect is the same - they aren&#039;t under the Charities Act, therefore they don&#039;t have to disclose donations. Anyone could be financing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm that press release says</p>
<blockquote><p>The Sensible Sentencing Trust is a registered charitable trust with IRD approved donee status</p></blockquote>
<p>Be interesting to figure out the actual status. But the effect is the same &#8211; they aren&#8217;t under the Charities Act, therefore they don&#8217;t have to disclose donations. Anyone could be financing them.</p>
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