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	<title>Comments on: Sharples a scapegoat for Nats&#8217; bumbling schemers</title>
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		<title>By: Jim McDonald</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sharples-a-scapegoat-for-nats-bumbling-schemers/comment-page-1/#comment-165748</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 09:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharples&#039; taxpayer-sponsored hui with Mongrel Mob &amp; Black Power gangs seems to put him on shaky grounds (3:32pm NewstalkZB/TVOne: http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/sharples-defends-gang-leaders-hui-3081118).

And looks like co-leader Turia came to Sharples&#039; rescue by trying to bump it off with her 2-week premature pre-Cabinet discussion about the Foreshore &amp; Seabed legislation (6:04pm NZPA: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2976210/Decision-on-foreshore-law-soon).

Let&#039;s see how the media cover the news tomorrow. Wonder what JK is thinking about all these. Wottachoice! Nats can take a break for a couple of days while these two issues fill up the airwaves and newspapers. ..... More time to work on The Plan for Recovery (if these shenanigans go long enough, there&#039;ll be time to keep The Plan for another recession!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharples&#8217; taxpayer-sponsored hui with Mongrel Mob &amp; Black Power gangs seems to put him on shaky grounds (3:32pm NewstalkZB/TVOne: <a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/sharples-defends-gang-leaders-hui-3081118" rel="nofollow">http://tvnz.co.nz/politics-news/sharples-defends-gang-leaders-hui-3081118</a>).</p>
<p>And looks like co-leader Turia came to Sharples&#8217; rescue by trying to bump it off with her 2-week premature pre-Cabinet discussion about the Foreshore &amp; Seabed legislation (6:04pm NZPA: <a href="http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2976210/Decision-on-foreshore-law-soon" rel="nofollow">http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/2976210/Decision-on-foreshore-law-soon</a>).</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see how the media cover the news tomorrow. Wonder what JK is thinking about all these. Wottachoice! Nats can take a break for a couple of days while these two issues fill up the airwaves and newspapers. &#8230;.. More time to work on The Plan for Recovery (if these shenanigans go long enough, there&#8217;ll be time to keep The Plan for another recession!).</p>
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		<title>By: Galeandra</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sharples-a-scapegoat-for-nats-bumbling-schemers/comment-page-1/#comment-165643</link>
		<dc:creator>Galeandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rubbish. Metaphors as analogies illustrate your views but don&#039;t prove anything.
Outside of the  paid opinionating  hacks, there is no honeymoon.
 Incompetence is incompetence. Praising Key for sorting YET ANOTHER. stuff up  to add to ..ETS/ACC/education cuts/rising joblessness/housing rorts/mining in conservation land???? It&#039;s an avalanche. 

A lot of us are starting to recognize  the Textor inspired b.s.  that we sucked up with our  weetbix and to more than wonder.   People I work with are angry more than cynical  and  very worried. There are real storms out there, and we have a ship being manned by a bunch of uncoordinated opinionated fatheads.
At a time like this it could be argued we actually need cross party cooperation and consensus. Some hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rubbish. Metaphors as analogies illustrate your views but don&#8217;t prove anything.<br />
Outside of the  paid opinionating  hacks, there is no honeymoon.<br />
 Incompetence is incompetence. Praising Key for sorting YET ANOTHER. stuff up  to add to ..ETS/ACC/education cuts/rising joblessness/housing rorts/mining in conservation land???? It&#8217;s an avalanche. </p>
<p>A lot of us are starting to recognize  the Textor inspired b.s.  that we sucked up with our  weetbix and to more than wonder.   People I work with are angry more than cynical  and  very worried. There are real storms out there, and we have a ship being manned by a bunch of uncoordinated opinionated fatheads.<br />
At a time like this it could be argued we actually need cross party cooperation and consensus. Some hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Armchair Critic</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sharples-a-scapegoat-for-nats-bumbling-schemers/comment-page-1/#comment-165634</link>
		<dc:creator>Armchair Critic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, the &quot;Labour did it too&quot; argument.  Let&#039;s not even go there.  In case you haven&#039;t noticed it is 2009 and the ministers of the crown are from the National, ACT, Maori and Peter Dunne party.  There are no Labour ministers, so the answer to your question would be &quot;no&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, the &#8220;Labour did it too&#8221; argument.  Let&#8217;s not even go there.  In case you haven&#8217;t noticed it is 2009 and the ministers of the crown are from the National, ACT, Maori and Peter Dunne party.  There are no Labour ministers, so the answer to your question would be &#8220;no&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: starboard</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sharples-a-scapegoat-for-nats-bumbling-schemers/comment-page-1/#comment-165619</link>
		<dc:creator>starboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..does that include Labour Ministers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..does that include Labour Ministers?</p>
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		<title>By: Herodotus</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sharples-a-scapegoat-for-nats-bumbling-schemers/comment-page-1/#comment-165616</link>
		<dc:creator>Herodotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As mentioned many times before Govts lose elections Opposition don&#039;t win. 12 months is not long enough for current voters to forget what was delivered previously. If Labour 08 was tired what has happen to Labour 09 brand?
The honeymoon may be closer to at the end of its time, BUT it is still in the honeymoon period, that GUSH feeling is still there, and John Key brand has not been tarnished. The King is still the King, there may be a few more jesters at the court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As mentioned many times before Govts lose elections Opposition don&#8217;t win. 12 months is not long enough for current voters to forget what was delivered previously. If Labour 08 was tired what has happen to Labour 09 brand?<br />
The honeymoon may be closer to at the end of its time, BUT it is still in the honeymoon period, that GUSH feeling is still there, and John Key brand has not been tarnished. The King is still the King, there may be a few more jesters at the court.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we just get the lies exposed we can break this Govt over the ACC lies. We just have to get the news media to report it..........hmmmm.....fat chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we just get the lies exposed we can break this Govt over the ACC lies. We just have to get the news media to report it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.hmmmm&#8230;..fat chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ianmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ianmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As opposed to the Act play over the need to privatise ACC. They will support the ACC Bill as long as....... And Nat will grudgingly agree to what they planned to do re privatisation anyway......
You see Pete. That&#039;s called brinkmanship!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As opposed to the Act play over the need to privatise ACC. They will support the ACC Bill as long as&#8230;&#8230;. And Nat will grudgingly agree to what they planned to do re privatisation anyway&#8230;&#8230;<br />
You see Pete. That&#8217;s called brinkmanship!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharples may be the scapegoat but he&#039;s standing there sucking it up like a prat. He just looks weak in this whole thing..
If he had any guts he&#039;d have released all this info as soon as Coleman announced the TV3TVNZ bid and made the Nats squirm.
I my opinion he&#039; missed a chance to get the upper hand with NACT..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharples may be the scapegoat but he&#8217;s standing there sucking it up like a prat. He just looks weak in this whole thing..<br />
If he had any guts he&#8217;d have released all this info as soon as Coleman announced the TV3TVNZ bid and made the Nats squirm.<br />
I my opinion he&#8217; missed a chance to get the upper hand with NACT..</p>
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		<title>By: Quoth the Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quoth the Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would consider this government quite incompetent rather than the &quot;least incompetent&quot; :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would consider this government quite incompetent rather than the &#8220;least incompetent&#8221; <img src='http://thestandard.org.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ianmac</title>
		<link>http://thestandard.org.nz/sharples-a-scapegoat-for-nats-bumbling-schemers/comment-page-1/#comment-165597</link>
		<dc:creator>Ianmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are not Ministers guilty of Misleading the House by their denials of knowledge? In a Court isn&#039;t that called perjury?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are not Ministers guilty of Misleading the House by their denials of knowledge? In a Court isn&#8217;t that called perjury?</p>
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