Comments on: Sharples: ‘ETS short-sighted, that’s why we supported it’

By: George.com

George.com — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:03:02 +0000

“Sharples believes his parties agreement with National is beneficial to Maori”…even though the latest manifestation of this agreement in the form of the ETS is hugely unbeneficial to NZ and the environment long term.

rob

By: Adam Jarvis

Adam Jarvis — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 07:42:52 +0000

This time though, it’s his particular house on the chopping block.

By: Clarke

Clarke — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:43:31 +0000

At a social engagement last night a colleague described the Maori Party as “The Iwi Roundtable”, on the basis that their policies were functionally indistinguishable from the Business Roundtable … it seemed a very accurate moniker.

By: Adrian

Adrian — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:11:34 +0000

Anybody still calling Phil Goff a dogwhistler? He blew the whistle alright, but on these bullshitters and charlatans.

By: luva

luva — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:14:57 +0000

I am not for a second denying climate change.

But in which century were houses and communities not decimated by storms.

By: Galeandra

Galeandra — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:39:24 +0000

Weel, Goff tried…. now we get the idea why the media wanted to paint him into the racecard corner, don’t we? The Standardistas helped, too, of course.

[lprent: We have a range of opinions. ]

By: Rich

Rich — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 07:43:28 +0000

Tariana TURIA

Meteria TUREI is the joint leader of the Green Party and would never support shit like this.

By: Zaphod Beeblebrox

Zaphod Beeblebrox — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:22:05 +0000

I’m wondering if Rodney will be able to get the ACT flag flying over the bridge (and why not United Future as well). The only problem will be the EFA- if Rodney can’t wear his yellow jacket, what chance a flag everyone associates with your political cause being seen as political advertising?

Anything other than the United Tribes’ flag at Waitangi would be a traversty- hopefully Ngapuhi will say something about this.

By: tc

tc — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:18:30 +0000

The only thing the maori division of the national party (aka the maori party) has got right is not ditching Hone………not a decision their twin-leaders wanted, one forced on them by the party I’d suggest.

Sharples/Turei’s legacy will be hard to shake as more credible/intelligent leaders inhereit shonky deals and attempt to put forward a more rounded approach.

Does labor have the guts to paint them as the party of priviledge who’ve done nothing except side with nats to deteriorate taxpayers standard of living on ETS/ACC or leave them alone as the prodigal son whom they hope returns to the fold……yeah right !

By: Jim McDonald

Jim McDonald — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:00:07 +0000

Edit:
Turn & twist as much as he can or likes but it is difficult to see the arrangements as anything but putting power ahead of other things that matter.

By: Jim McDonald

Jim McDonald — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:57:57 +0000

I was away from the radio then so thanks for the link.

It’s lousy spin and he should work harder at making a more credible argument.

If he intends to venture into the spiritual *now*, the first step to take is to be mindful of self-authenticity and to actively uproot self-delusion.

Turn & twist as much as he can or likes but it is difficult to see the arrangements as putting power ahead of other things that matter.

By: Bill

Bill — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:44:55 +0000

yeah, but that that had nothing to do with cultural difference.

He was positioning himself as ‘the wise one’ or ‘of the wise ones’ which then allows sheer arrogance to dismiss any and all criticisms.

I mean, I know the guys got a beard and all that and it could be held to be sagely grey.

But then all that remains to be said is that he’s a sad washed up charlatan who might have fared better in the 19 fucking 60s when people were quite willing to suck on gurus sucking them dry….’cause he sure as hell can’t play that race card and sell any wise native earth custodian shit can he?

By: Tigger

Tigger — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:12:04 +0000

Look you racists, Pita has far bigger things to worry about than these small kumara. Didn’t you see the announcement about the Maori flag? That’s what matters. A piece of cloth with a pattern on it. Not this ‘global warmthening’ stuff…

By: snoozer

snoozer — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 03:05:28 +0000

If you cloak your selling out in ‘cultural differences’ you make it harder to criticise.

By: Bill

Bill — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:51:30 +0000

Did I pick that up correctly? Did he really say that people don’t understand how Maori think as Maori? Did he really say that they think in ‘the now’ like their is some enlightened Maori way of thinking that I’m just a wee bit thick to quite get?

Is he seriously expecting anyone to buy into an idea that Maori think in a fashion that is superior (it’s like spiritual man, it’s in the now man!’). Does he maybe expect all us thickies to nod slowly in unison as the comprehension slowly dawns that the problem is the failure of reality to fit into Pita’s ‘now’ moment, rather than Pita being a complete fuckwit?