As I said earlier a simple “I know a woman who is being harrassed by Richard Worth. She doesn’t want to be identified. But could you have a word to him and tell him to stop’ would have done it.

What are you talking about? You’ve just paraphrased the private conversation he had with Key a month or so ago. Unless you’re suggesting he say that to Worth- which I think is unwise as direct confrontation in these matters can be problematic.

Similarly, in rape cases, it is perfectly reasonable to criticize the conduct of a victim (male or female) who engages in imprudent behaviour that puts them at risk without lessening in any degree the criminal culpability of the rapist.

What exactly do you mean by this? Because I can’t think of a situation off the top of my head where I’d agree with you.

I would then agree with the victim on a way the perpetrator could be challenged that the victim felt comfortable with.

What say the victim doesn’t feel comfortable with anything you think should be done?

There is grey here, an awful lot rests on the gravity of the situation, the continuing risk to the victim and others, the impact of your intended action on the victim, and an assessment of the victim’s competence. In the case I outlined I would allow the victim the final say.

To take two analogies:

1) I see someone trip and fall on the street, she scuffs her knee in a way that I think deserves anti-septic and a plaster. I offer her both (from my handbag-of-many-things), she turns them down and says she believes in the power of fresh air and a strong immune system.

Should I over-rule her and enforce graze cleaning and plastering?

2) I see someone trip and fall on the street, she hits her head hard and is bleeding all over the place. I help her get up from the ground, try to sit her down and say I’ll call an ambulance. She is clearly dazed and gets up to walk off slurring “no no, don’t call an ambulance, I have to be there when the coffee guy arrives”, she gets up, falls, and gets up again wobbling but determined although she’s getting greyer from shock or blood loss.

Should I over-rule her and call an ambulance and make sure she keeps safe until they arrive?

I think these cases are black and white, but there is grey in the middle.

Can you move on, or are you stuck in the phallic stage.

holycrappingbabyjesus, there are timid women there are bolshy women there are women in between there are so many different types of women cactus kate, and not nearly enough of them able tend off a rich white drunk or not lawyertorygit. awrite ?

Hilarious.

As a victim of proximity over more years than I care to remember to far, far, too many morono-tory, puffed-suit, self-inflated, dead-eyed and ubermasturbated, annoying, cloying, soul-destroying fools, tools, gropers, strokers, try-hard jokers; greasy grippers and touchy tie-tugging inbred faux-intellectuals with minds in the gutter, I just hope the current case encourages more strong women to come forward and relegate more of these cretinous creeps to the public ridicule and opprobrium they deserve.

meanwhile, back at the OrGran….

Woman in Worth case accused me too, says man

and….

Sharples speaks to National Conference…….After a few Billy T James-style Maori fella jokes, Sharples spoke seriously about the relationship with National.

Maori-fella jokes.

Seriously.

Up against it, brothers and sisters.

On the other hand, desperation indicates cognizance of a tightening noose: the olde worlde of inherited privilege is unravelling before their eyes, and the larger world will no longer accept Third. No wonder the sunny grins are waning.

Read ‘em and weep, doughboys and cactuslags: the world is turning at long, long last; love is in the air, there really is a brighter future and yes oh yes, we can. And will.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/141275-decline-of-the-u-s-dollar-asian-initiative-to-create-commodity-based-currency

Hey, we have lives as well that don’t involve the blog or politics.

Actually I don’t really right now. I’m hammering code and data for the by-election next weekend. It is going to be kind of scary for the Nats about how organized the systems will be for using the volunteers most efficiently. The skills of the operations management major of my MBA fit perfectly into building big people handling code.